Another big difference between the Portola and many other e-bikes (not just folding ones) is you can adjust the power for each PAS level if you don’t like the factory defaults. It’s a feature I think Ride1Up enables on most, if not all, of their e-bikes.
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😛😃😏😮💨🤤😑
That adjustable power is a big feature. I ran across another brand where the PAS speed is the same from PAS 1-2 (maybe even PAS 3). Nice to have hydraulic brakes and suspension too
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😂🤞✋🤘
I've been evaluating step thru folding ebikes for over a month now in trying to decide what will be my first ebike. I've been particularly looking at Lectric 3.0, Hovbeta, Aventon Sinch, Vtuvia SX20 Antelope, and Espin Nesta. So now this Portola from Ride1Up just dropped. Wow.... It looks like a game changer for real. Lighter weight, shorter, hydraulic disc brakes, a strap to hold it together, welded frame, nice color choices. The only slight drawback I can see is the battery range. Glad to see a major player like Ride1Up finally get a folder. Nice review guys.
The Espin Nesta’s power delivery is a handful. I got thrown off a couple times due to it sending over 900W of power from a stop before I set the first PAS to a very low speed (between 3-5mph) so it only has a chance to send between 300-500W to its very torquey (85Nm) hub motor. Even then, it makes me go wide on turns after a stop sign. That’s the main disadvantage of a speed-targeting cadence-sensor driven ebike - arbitrary power delivery curves. I got a Lectric XPedition after the Nesta because of its cargo hauling capability and also its P.W.R. power management style, which is what they call a power-setting cadence sensor system, which is what Ride1Up uses for all their cadence sensor e-bikes, including the Portola. An ebike driven by a torque sensor or a power-setting cadence sensor driven ebike is much easier to ride safely. I’ve never been tossed off by the XPedition, and only once off my Ride1Up LMT’d (torque sensor) because I had the PAS set to maximum assist while trying to navigate very lumpy and slippery terrain at low speed. Whoops. 😅 The HovBeta and Sinch 2 each use a torque sensor. FWIW, folding e-bikes with 20x4 tires are heavy and bulky, making them more difficult to wrangle into and out of cars. 20x3 tires are easier to wrangle and feel more nimble while providing some cushion.
We bought this bike 2 weeks ago and we felt the power delivery was more like a torque sensor instead of a cadence. It needs more pedal input to get it going especially going up the hill even at the slightest. I had to crank it to PAS5. Otherwise, the quality of this bike screams and it is so smooth compared to say the Lectric XP 3.0. I have both.
Great review, I’ve been looking at the Portola for my wife, and your feedback confirms the excellent value I thought it to be. I just bought a Hanevear H100, with dual 750W motors and a 16 ah battery for $1199 delivered. It’s a pretty good value (hydraulic disc brakes, color display, folding, 20x4 tires, rack, head and tail light), and I’m super pleased with the performance, build quality and overall ride. I think it would be a terrific one for you to review.
i hate quick release, just means you need to lock your front wheel too whenever you lock your bike up somewhere. also hate quick release seats since you have to lock that as well. derailleur guards just end up bending your frame if you hit it hard enough as opposed to breaking your derailleur hanger which can be replaced for under $10. derailleur guards are only good on cheap bikes that dont have seperate derailleur hangers (most cheap bikes use the bike frame itself as a derailleur hanger instead of a metal piece thats screwed onto the frame)
Only thing i would add is a minimum 52 tooth chainring. 48 is too small for proper pedal assist. For 750watts need a 15ah option. Really like how you take out the battery. And the key on the side is much better then a key under the bike ,um(lectric) i like my lectric 3.0 but its annoying how the battery is taken out. And to me there placement of the key under the ebike is very annoying. Good value for the money. This ride1up Portola . Only needs larger chainring. How is customer service with this company? That makes or breaks the value of any e-bike.
I’ve had good customer service with my LMT’d. You may want to check a 52 tooth chainring fits. It looks tight between the current chainring and the chainstay and frame hinge. But if you find one that does, please let us know!
I find the magnetic coupling used on my Tern releases too easily, so I’ve used a Velcro strap to secure it when folded. About time someone equipped a folding bike with a stock strap! FYI, Aventon updated the Sinch 2’s firmware to increase its top speed, though only to 25mph. This is a great first effort by Ride1Up on a folding ebike. Nice components, great price point. Waiting for UL certification though, as I’d like to be able to take it to NYC when I visit.
@@Andrew-vt4jt Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up. I know they can’t claim certification until granted. It’s an important criteria I’ve been waiting for. The testing labs who are allowed to grant certification must be busy.
Trailer. I own this bike, and have been frustrated working out how to attach a trailer because the frame gets in the way of attaching trailer hitch to the rear wheel. if you buy this bike expecting to attach a trailer, get a seat pole mounted trailer.
The only think i am worried about is how strong the bottom bracket area is. If you are offroading this thing, it might put too much stress on that joint.
The quick release on front was a bad call, as it makes the front wheel easy to steal if not locked. This, compared with the internal battery on the Lectric make it a better city bike. (AND adjustable height handlebar)
Another awesome PEV review! Thank you Jimmy & Andrew 🙏 Q: Jimmy, which EUC do you tend to most often use for your use in these videos? just curious. lol.
Thumbs up for the bike and this comprehensive review. I know two current Lectric owners quite well, and the thing that would drive me nuts is the key placement and awkward battery removal. The integrated battery on this machine is a major plus. Furthermore, I'm impressed by the class (1,2, or 3) versatility. Also, while I rarely if ever use a throttle, I prefer the thumb throttle. It's much tougher to engage accidentally. The strap is a nice touch too.
Agree with above features. One mfr uses magnets to keep folded wheels together but I believe straps are more foolproof. Battery location better too and my preference would also be for thumb throttle instead of twist throttle. Will there be room for a rear mirror attachment on left side?
I'm debating between this, the lectric xp3.0, and radrunner plus. I will be carrying a 9 year old on the back and just curious which you think is best. I like the portola but it almost looks like the seat overhangs the rear rack slightly compared to the others and wonder how comfortable that would be for my passenger
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😂😂😂😂
Yes, though they’re unlabeled. The fluid reservoirs on the levers look a lot like a Zoom set. I don’t know if Lectric had been sued over those, but they did have a recall on the originally specified cable-actuated calipers.
Can you still get a work out on this thing? I want to make the switch but worried that I will lose the aerobic element of riding. I live in San Francisco, so need something to help with the hills but not totally eliminate the challenge
For cadence-driven ebikes, PAS levels that set power output to the motor like Ride1Up’s e-bikes and what Lectric calls P.W.R. simply let you decide how much assistance you want the motor to give you and you supply the rest. Ones that target speeds provide assistance according to an arbitrary curve and tapers off rapidly as you approach the target speed. Between the two, the first is the easiest to manage (i.e., doesn’t make the bike difficult to control at low speeds or tight maneuvers) and lets you control the amount of exercise you want. Not as easily as an ebike with a torque sensor, but it also lets you set the bike to do most or all the work when you need to. Torque sensor and power-setting cadence sensor e-bikes also let you match speeds with other riders more easily. It can be very difficult to match speeds with other riders with speed-setting cadence sensor systems, even ones of the same make and model as every rider is different and they don’t tightly calibrate each unit. For instance, I’ve friends with three Lectric XP 2.0 e-bikes and they each go at different speeds when set to the same PAS level. They end up switching PAS levels frequently to try to stay together, but they still enjoy them. One ended up upgrading to an XPedition and another to an XP 3.0 and they much prefer the power-setting method.
It would be really nice if they added turn signals on the downspout of the rear rack for added safety. ⬅️➡️ p.s. I like the color, but you’re right, they shouldn’t call it black.
unfortunately they ship using fedex which made buying this bike a painful experience. waited all weekend for my bike to arrive since i kept getting updates saying its on the way multiple days in a row. at this point i wish i wouldve just bought the xp 3.0
Something not in the review: do the pedals have a cadence sensor or a torque sensor? I tried a cadence sensor bike (RadPower), and I was surprised: it was basically like the motor and my leg power didn’t blend at all. The motor basically did all the work until it reached the speed set by the assist level, and then it was all leg power to go any faster. So, if I wanted to cruise at 15mph, it didn’t feel like I was doing half the work, but if the assist was low and maxed out at 10mph, those final 5mph felt way harder than bringing my traditional mechanical bike up to 15 mph just under the power of my own legs.
Ride1Up cadence sensor e-bikes use a power-setting PAS style instead of the more common speed-setting style. I think Lectric recently adopted it and calls it PWR. For cadence sensor bikes, it’s what I prefer. It’s easier to control my speed and much less likely to make me lose control the bike in slow tight maneuvers. Anyway, each PAS level corresponds to an amount of power sent to the motor, and doesn’t drop as it approaches a speed or cuts out entirely if you exceed a speed (except for the class limits). A key difference between the Ride1Up and Lectric systems is you can adjust the power output of each level with Ride1Up’s. So you can tailor them to suit your preferences.
I want to see your guys opinion on the s22 pro and maybe a comparison with the v14 when you can get a hold of one. I like this bike though for the price its awesome!
I loved the S22 Pro when I was out riding with Mr. Wrong Way in Poland. We should be receiving the V14 shortly and will work on trying to do a comparison.
@@Andrew-vt4jt that would be awesome! Maybe you guys could meet up with shibby again and get his thoughts on it (v14) like you guys did with the v12 way back
Hate to be a spoilsport but I have read several posts from different sites (including BBB) about shipping problems and damaged parts and in a few cases Ride1Up was not too accommodating in reply. These incidents could have been in years past and not related to current Portola model, but this, nevertheless, is discerning. Still, the Portola price point/features are hard to beat.
The way this thing is cheaper in this video than during their Black Friday sale is kinda appalling. Like I want to like it, but only having $100 off on the smaller battery version instead of both as seen on this video puts me off a bit on this model.
I would have to say that one of the other things NOT to like about this particular eBike is the cheap plastic pedals. I think Ride 1Up could have improved on them a bit more with a larger foot surface area also. Other than that, it is a Fantastic bike by Ride 1Up (which I currently own the Core 5 bike)
Wow, just wow. I’ve been researching e-bikes for the last week and the sinch was well in the lead until finding out about the Portola. The only thing is that on the website the total battery mileage is listed at 20 miles, which I assume is for the smaller batter. Would the larger one be more likely to stand up to the quoted 50 miles of the Sinch?
Electric Bike Report achieved 24.67 to 49.56mi with the spare 14Ah battery on their test loop. The 13.4Ah pack should get close to those results, and of course, YMMV depending on total weight, terrain, winds, riding style, tire pressure etc. The Sinch 2 got 36.4-58.8mi on the same loop. This is probably thanks to its torque sensor system, which modulates motor assist according to how much force you exert on the pedals, up to the max for each PAS level. It also did slightly better on their hill climb test. However, it’s heavier, class 3 is capped at 25mph, uses cable-pulled brakes and its gearing will require a faster cadence at higher speeds (ghost-pedaling sensation). If they solved those issues, plus equipped 20x3 tires, I’d have gotten the Sinch 2.
Excuse me if this was talked about and I just missed it, but do you have to pedal with this? Or can you leave it up to the motor to move you around like a regular throttle? Because I have a hard time pedaling
you can do math on that subject: 48 x 10.4 and 48 x 13.4 . which is about a 29% increase.. But like I found in my Tesla range varies greatly depending on usage and weather.
It is heavier than a traditional bike but not as heavy as most ebikes we have reviewed on the channel. The nice thing is you can easily remove the battery to shed some weight if you need to lift it.
That’s for the smaller battery. Larger one is probably a a pound or two more. It’s still several pounds lighter than most competitors, especially within its price range.
Dave will definitely get a chance to win it. We would love for him to win a more expensive product since he is always brightening our day when he comes to visit.
Excellent offering from Ride1up. Completely blows away Lectric in the entry level foldable market for less $$$. Much prefer the step thru to the step over. At $1000 with the bigger battery, Ride1up has a big seller. Didn’t hear if it’s UL listed but that is a must for 2024. Wonder how that We Works guy at Lectric will respond? Maybe by cutting his hair and getting off acid? Edit: by introducing a pathetic 26x4 hard tail with a tiny weak 48v 14 AH battery in a completely saturated segment of the market🥱😂🤣. Clearly they are tripping if they think this will sell in 2024. Going to find out real quick that they have no real brand equity in a commodity market driven by price.
For just 400.00 more I know a bike that gets you 3X more battery range and almost 3X more motor power, ie (1400.00 USD you get a 35 Amp single battery and 2000 Watt single rear motor) from a USA based shipper coming from a name brand website in business over 20 years. Maybe you should reach out to the distributor and ask for a ''review model'' for your channel,
Another big difference between the Portola and many other e-bikes (not just folding ones) is you can adjust the power for each PAS level if you don’t like the factory defaults. It’s a feature I think Ride1Up enables on most, if not all, of their e-bikes.
That's actually brilliant. If you want mode 1 to be super low power for among a crowd/super eco, and have the top mode be maximum output
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😛😃😏😮💨🤤😑
That adjustable power is a big feature. I ran across another brand where the PAS speed is the same from PAS 1-2 (maybe even PAS 3). Nice to have hydraulic brakes and suspension too
Plus.. what is amazing is you can change it from class 1 to 2 to 3.. that means you can ride it on any class restricted trails, which is a huge plus!!
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😂🤞✋🤘
Actually several other bikes can be changed from Class 1 to Class 3 with program unlocking.
*$1000 price range is probably the most accessable whilst still having good quality,* not "cheaping out" too much.
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We love the quality components that Ride1Up put on this bike.
I always hated having to unfold a bike to remove the battery. This beats out the Lectric hands down...
Dang! I wish I didn’t already own a Lectric 3.0. I hate the battery in the tube!😤
Yeah, I am not a huge fan of having to fold it to get out the battery.
I've been evaluating step thru folding ebikes for over a month now in trying to decide what will be my first ebike. I've been particularly looking at Lectric 3.0, Hovbeta, Aventon Sinch, Vtuvia SX20 Antelope, and Espin Nesta. So now this Portola from Ride1Up just dropped. Wow.... It looks like a game changer for real. Lighter weight, shorter, hydraulic disc brakes, a strap to hold it together, welded frame, nice color choices. The only slight drawback I can see is the battery range. Glad to see a major player like Ride1Up finally get a folder. Nice review guys.
Which do you think are best?
Don't know yet. All seem to be good choices@@PLUG3D
The Espin Nesta’s power delivery is a handful. I got thrown off a couple times due to it sending over 900W of power from a stop before I set the first PAS to a very low speed (between 3-5mph) so it only has a chance to send between 300-500W to its very torquey (85Nm) hub motor. Even then, it makes me go wide on turns after a stop sign. That’s the main disadvantage of a speed-targeting cadence-sensor driven ebike - arbitrary power delivery curves. I got a Lectric XPedition after the Nesta because of its cargo hauling capability and also its P.W.R. power management style, which is what they call a power-setting cadence sensor system, which is what Ride1Up uses for all their cadence sensor e-bikes, including the Portola.
An ebike driven by a torque sensor or a power-setting cadence sensor driven ebike is much easier to ride safely. I’ve never been tossed off by the XPedition, and only once off my Ride1Up LMT’d (torque sensor) because I had the PAS set to maximum assist while trying to navigate very lumpy and slippery terrain at low speed. Whoops. 😅
The HovBeta and Sinch 2 each use a torque sensor.
FWIW, folding e-bikes with 20x4 tires are heavy and bulky, making them more difficult to wrangle into and out of cars. 20x3 tires are easier to wrangle and feel more nimble while providing some cushion.
We bought this bike 2 weeks ago and we felt the power delivery was more like a torque sensor instead of a cadence. It needs more pedal input to get it going especially going up the hill even at the slightest. I had to crank it to PAS5. Otherwise, the quality of this bike screams and it is so smooth compared to say the Lectric XP 3.0. I have both.
Great review, I’ve been looking at the Portola for my wife, and your feedback confirms the excellent value I thought it to be. I just bought a Hanevear H100, with dual 750W motors and a 16 ah battery for $1199 delivered. It’s a pretty good value (hydraulic disc brakes, color display, folding, 20x4 tires, rack, head and tail light), and I’m super pleased with the performance, build quality and overall ride. I think it would be a terrific one for you to review.
i hate quick release, just means you need to lock your front wheel too whenever you lock your bike up somewhere. also hate quick release seats since you have to lock that as well. derailleur guards just end up bending your frame if you hit it hard enough as opposed to breaking your derailleur hanger which can be replaced for under $10. derailleur guards are only good on cheap bikes that dont have seperate derailleur hangers (most cheap bikes use the bike frame itself as a derailleur hanger instead of a metal piece thats screwed onto the frame)
That's a good thing I held off getting the lectric lol
I do like it better than the XP 3.0. You can save an extra $100 off buy purchasing one of the first 50 units.
Only thing i would add is a minimum 52 tooth chainring. 48 is too small for proper pedal assist. For 750watts need a 15ah option. Really like how you take out the battery. And the key on the side is much better then a key under the bike ,um(lectric) i like my lectric 3.0 but its annoying how the battery is taken out. And to me there placement of the key under the ebike is very annoying.
Good value for the money. This ride1up Portola . Only needs larger chainring. How is customer service with this company? That makes or breaks the value of any e-bike.
I’ve had good customer service with my LMT’d.
You may want to check a 52 tooth chainring fits. It looks tight between the current chainring and the chainstay and frame hinge.
But if you find one that does, please let us know!
I find the magnetic coupling used on my Tern releases too easily, so I’ve used a Velcro strap to secure it when folded. About time someone equipped a folding bike with a stock strap!
FYI, Aventon updated the Sinch 2’s firmware to increase its top speed, though only to 25mph.
This is a great first effort by Ride1Up on a folding ebike. Nice components, great price point. Waiting for UL certification though, as I’d like to be able to take it to NYC when I visit.
They have submitted the battery for UL certification it just hasn’t gotten approved yet.
@@Andrew-vt4jt Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up. I know they can’t claim certification until granted. It’s an important criteria I’ve been waiting for. The testing labs who are allowed to grant certification must be busy.
Maybe I missed it, but what range did you get with the 10ah battery?
Oh man, I think this will be taking my purchase away from the lectric xp 3.0 that i was planning on getting
It really is a great bike at a stellar price.
i noticed they even welded in a stand for it when folded at the crease in the front of the bend
Trailer. I own this bike, and have been frustrated working out how to attach a trailer because the frame gets in the way of attaching trailer hitch to the rear wheel.
if you buy this bike expecting to attach a trailer, get a seat pole mounted trailer.
Beautiful fall colors guys.
Looking hard at this and the XP 3.0. does the Portola seem actually smaller? Is the slight weight difference noticeable? Which one do you guys prefer
The only think i am worried about is how strong the bottom bracket area is. If you are offroading this thing, it might put too much stress on that joint.
How is this for someone 6ft? Not sure if I heard him mention his height
How do you think the Portola would do against the Velotric Fold? Thanks
Best value 🚲️
It is the best ebike we have reviewed for under $1000.
The quick release on front was a bad call, as it makes the front wheel easy to steal if not locked. This, compared with the internal battery on the Lectric make it a better city bike. (AND adjustable height handlebar)
Another awesome PEV review!
Thank you Jimmy & Andrew 🙏
Q: Jimmy, which EUC do you tend to most often use for your use in these videos?
just curious. lol.
The trusty Sherman Max!
JIMMY! Wow its been a while since ive seen your videos, I remember watching you a couple years agi
Can a 6'5" 225lb. 35" inseam fit on this beauty ?
Thumbs up for the bike and this comprehensive review. I know two current Lectric owners quite well, and the thing that would drive me nuts is the key placement and awkward battery removal. The integrated battery on this machine is a major plus. Furthermore, I'm impressed by the class (1,2, or 3) versatility. Also, while I rarely if ever use a throttle, I prefer the thumb throttle. It's much tougher to engage accidentally. The strap is a nice touch too.
Agree with above features. One mfr uses magnets to keep folded wheels together but I believe straps are more foolproof. Battery location better too and my preference would also be for thumb throttle instead of twist throttle. Will there be room for a rear mirror attachment on left side?
They added a derailleur bar on mine. The install is a pain though
Wondering about range and which to buy between this and the currently discounted Rip Racer? I live in very hilly area.
I'm debating between this, the lectric xp3.0, and radrunner plus. I will be carrying a 9 year old on the back and just curious which you think is best. I like the portola but it almost looks like the seat overhangs the rear rack slightly compared to the others and wonder how comfortable that would be for my passenger
It can get a little wobbly at speeds. If i had a do over I'd probably go with a full size or one with bigger tires.
YES!
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Would you recommend the portola over the velotric go? Which one seems to have a smoother ride experience?
This great looking bike ….. does Not have a bell …but hey for short money your can add one.
Horns and bells are always a personal thing🎉😅
Electric tricycle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😂😂😂😂
Does this have hydraulic brakes? Wasn't Lectric sued recently for not having hydraulic brakes which is why the offered them for free with the 3.0s?
Yes, though they’re unlabeled. The fluid reservoirs on the levers look a lot like a Zoom set.
I don’t know if Lectric had been sued over those, but they did have a recall on the originally specified cable-actuated calipers.
Great review! Does this have cruise control feature?
And is there a Walk feature?
There is a walk feature, don’t know about cruise control,
Hi Jimmy, I'd be interested in seeing a review of the BMW CE 02 when/if you can get one.
Can the Portola roll while folded and get pushed around by holding the saddle or handlebars? Didn’t see it mentioned at all in the video.
Yeah!🎉
You're right, add a bike ' kids trailer or cargo for grocery/ ' supply run when you are
" going in to town "
Lol for $1,000 !? Yup.
Can you still get a work out on this thing? I want to make the switch but worried that I will lose the aerobic element of riding. I live in San Francisco, so need something to help with the hills but not totally eliminate the challenge
You totally can get a workout. The best part is the bike rides fine without pedal assist levels on.
@@Andrew-vt4jt cool thanks for the reply. I’m debating between this one and the roadster. Been riding a Dahon folding bike for a while.
For cadence-driven ebikes, PAS levels that set power output to the motor like Ride1Up’s e-bikes and what Lectric calls P.W.R. simply let you decide how much assistance you want the motor to give you and you supply the rest. Ones that target speeds provide assistance according to an arbitrary curve and tapers off rapidly as you approach the target speed. Between the two, the first is the easiest to manage (i.e., doesn’t make the bike difficult to control at low speeds or tight maneuvers) and lets you control the amount of exercise you want. Not as easily as an ebike with a torque sensor, but it also lets you set the bike to do most or all the work when you need to.
Torque sensor and power-setting cadence sensor e-bikes also let you match speeds with other riders more easily. It can be very difficult to match speeds with other riders with speed-setting cadence sensor systems, even ones of the same make and model as every rider is different and they don’t tightly calibrate each unit. For instance, I’ve friends with three Lectric XP 2.0 e-bikes and they each go at different speeds when set to the same PAS level. They end up switching PAS levels frequently to try to stay together, but they still enjoy them. One ended up upgrading to an XPedition and another to an XP 3.0 and they much prefer the power-setting method.
@@chow-chihuang4903 thanks for this breakdown! This is helpful
Excellent explanation. I prefer a torque sensor but this sounds like a reasonable compromise. @@chow-chihuang4903
I wonder if the stationary handlebars is a con. Nice the worse you could find is the color description.
I kept thinking "is that Cherry Creek State Park" and then you all mentioned Colorado haha
It would be really nice if they added turn signals on the downspout of the rear rack for added safety. ⬅️➡️ p.s. I like the color, but you’re right, they shouldn’t call it black.
I read a different review that said this is not a good option for tall riders. My husband is a long-legged 6' tall. Will this be a good fit for him?
unfortunately they ship using fedex which made buying this bike a painful experience. waited all weekend for my bike to arrive since i kept getting updates saying its on the way multiple days in a row. at this point i wish i wouldve just bought the xp 3.0
Ok... I'm sold.
Something not in the review: do the pedals have a cadence sensor or a torque sensor? I tried a cadence sensor bike (RadPower), and I was surprised: it was basically like the motor and my leg power didn’t blend at all. The motor basically did all the work until it reached the speed set by the assist level, and then it was all leg power to go any faster. So, if I wanted to cruise at 15mph, it didn’t feel like I was doing half the work, but if the assist was low and maxed out at 10mph, those final 5mph felt way harder than bringing my traditional mechanical bike up to 15 mph just under the power of my own legs.
Ride1Up cadence sensor e-bikes use a power-setting PAS style instead of the more common speed-setting style. I think Lectric recently adopted it and calls it PWR. For cadence sensor bikes, it’s what I prefer. It’s easier to control my speed and much less likely to make me lose control the bike in slow tight maneuvers.
Anyway, each PAS level corresponds to an amount of power sent to the motor, and doesn’t drop as it approaches a speed or cuts out entirely if you exceed a speed (except for the class limits).
A key difference between the Ride1Up and Lectric systems is you can adjust the power output of each level with Ride1Up’s. So you can tailor them to suit your preferences.
I want to see your guys opinion on the s22 pro and maybe a comparison with the v14 when you can get a hold of one. I like this bike though for the price its awesome!
I loved the S22 Pro when I was out riding with Mr. Wrong Way in Poland. We should be receiving the V14 shortly and will work on trying to do a comparison.
@@Andrew-vt4jt that would be awesome! Maybe you guys could meet up with shibby again and get his thoughts on it (v14) like you guys did with the v12 way back
would like more info on unpacking/putting handle bar on. The company video is a little confusing. thanks for great video
Yeah I was surprised that, unlike many of its competitors this bike does not come fully assembled. Hope the video is instructive enough.
Hate to be a spoilsport but I have read several posts from different sites (including BBB) about shipping problems and damaged parts and in a few cases Ride1Up was not too accommodating in reply. These incidents could have been in years past and not related to current Portola model, but this, nevertheless, is discerning.
Still, the Portola price point/features are hard to beat.
The way this thing is cheaper in this video than during their Black Friday sale is kinda appalling. Like I want to like it, but only having $100 off on the smaller battery version instead of both as seen on this video puts me off a bit on this model.
You’d feel better about it if there was no sale at all and it was full price?
I would have to say that one of the other things NOT to like about this particular eBike is the cheap plastic pedals. I think Ride 1Up could have improved on them a bit more with a larger foot surface area also.
Other than that, it is a Fantastic bike by Ride 1Up (which I currently own the Core 5 bike)
Why is it that I have to have my knees bent so much, unlike a regular 10 speed manual bike? Or am I doing something wrong? Great video by the way.
What bike are you riding? Have you tried raising the seat?
Raise the dang seat!
Could also try shorter cranks if the seat is already high enough but you still feel too much knee flex.
Wow, just wow. I’ve been researching e-bikes for the last week and the sinch was well in the lead until finding out about the Portola. The only thing is that on the website the total battery mileage is listed at 20 miles, which I assume is for the smaller batter. Would the larger one be more likely to stand up to the quoted 50 miles of the Sinch?
Electric Bike Report achieved 24.67 to 49.56mi with the spare 14Ah battery on their test loop. The 13.4Ah pack should get close to those results, and of course, YMMV depending on total weight, terrain, winds, riding style, tire pressure etc.
The Sinch 2 got 36.4-58.8mi on the same loop. This is probably thanks to its torque sensor system, which modulates motor assist according to how much force you exert on the pedals, up to the max for each PAS level. It also did slightly better on their hill climb test. However, it’s heavier, class 3 is capped at 25mph, uses cable-pulled brakes and its gearing will require a faster cadence at higher speeds (ghost-pedaling sensation). If they solved those issues, plus equipped 20x3 tires, I’d have gotten the Sinch 2.
Excuse me if this was talked about and I just missed it, but do you have to pedal with this? Or can you leave it up to the motor to move you around like a regular throttle? Because I have a hard time pedaling
It has a throttle, so no pedaling required unless desired 😊
Any idea what the range difference would be between the 10.4 and 13.4 battery?
you can do math on that subject: 48 x 10.4 and 48 x 13.4 . which is about a 29% increase.. But like I found in my Tesla range varies greatly depending on usage and weather.
I think they meant the range of actual mileage, not percentage.
If the larger battery gets 40+ miles on PAS 1 or 2 it would be great. Of course range depends on many factors.
Also- is there an integrated bike bell on this one?
Good question about the bell
Even if there isn't one, it is an inexpensive add on. I would say a rear mirror is more important a feature to have. Again, maybe $29.00
I like it. 😊
This over the Lectric XP 3.0 or the Lectric?
Id wait to find 50s batteries in the packs ..
Anyone able to buy spare battery for this bike? I don't see them on website.
They sell a 14Ah pack for the Portola. That’s another advantage over the Lectric - $375 vs $500 for a spare 14Ah battery.
my biggest problem with e-bikes, is how heavy they are.
It is heavier than a traditional bike but not as heavy as most ebikes we have reviewed on the channel. The nice thing is you can easily remove the battery to shed some weight if you need to lift it.
This is a few to several pounds lighter than many folding e-bikes.
Did I read some side bar that said the weight is 59 lbs? Hope that is for the larger battery though.
That’s for the smaller battery. Larger one is probably a a pound or two more. It’s still several pounds lighter than most competitors, especially within its price range.
How does the cadence sensor perform? Is there a lot of ghost pedaling?
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Give it to your mailman please!!!!!!
Dave will definitely get a chance to win it. We would love for him to win a more expensive product since he is always brightening our day when he comes to visit.
Excellent offering from Ride1up. Completely blows away Lectric in the entry level foldable market for less $$$. Much prefer the step thru to the step over. At $1000 with the bigger battery, Ride1up has a big seller. Didn’t hear if it’s UL listed but that is a must for 2024. Wonder how that We Works guy at Lectric will respond? Maybe by cutting his hair and getting off acid? Edit: by introducing a pathetic 26x4 hard tail with a tiny weak 48v 14 AH battery in a completely saturated segment of the market🥱😂🤣. Clearly they are tripping if they think this will sell in 2024. Going to find out real quick that they have no real brand equity in a commodity market driven by price.
For just 400.00 more I know a bike that gets you 3X more battery range and almost 3X more motor power, ie (1400.00 USD you get a 35 Amp single battery and 2000 Watt single rear motor)
from a USA based shipper coming from a name brand website in business over 20 years. Maybe you should reach out to the distributor and ask for a ''review model'' for your channel,
Or you could just mention what it is and not be so passive…..
What is it? Lol.
And maybe weigh a ton more. Remember, weight is a critical feature for many older riders and even women.
Which bike are you referring to?
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Really ride1up. Nobody likes that black gloss color and other makers offer accident protection plans for their bikes.
Yeah, let's have better color choices. Black/gray so dull.
I’d like to see glossy white, red and metallic cobalt options!
How much did Portola pay you for this infomercial? This is just another Lectric knockoff.