Nice job on this review; the comparison made something very clear. The Nomatic seems superior as a pure photography bag, where you put down the bag on location, open it up, and stay there for a while working. If that was how I work, the Nomatic would be the one. But the video also shows that I made the right choice with the Peak Design Everyday Backpack, because I don’t use it as a pure photography bag, but for literally how they named it: An everyday backpack. I mix photo gear and non-photo gear depending on the needs of the day, and the dividers work well for that. Regarding the side access, I do a lot of street/travel photography where I am constantly on the move, so I do not want to have to put the bag on the ground every time I get something out of it. Instead I put the photo gear on the one side that I plan to access on demand. Your video includes a short demo of side access with text saying it’s more of a hassle than it’s worth. That might be because the feature was incorrectly demonstrated. Peak Design designed it so you first pull the quick release slide to instantly lengthen the strap, because that drops the bag down to the optimal arm’s length for quickly unzipping it and grabbing what you need, leaving it stable on shoulder with the long side open to the top (like a shoulder bag) while you concentrate on getting the shot in time. When you're done, you drop the camera right back into its slot in the bag side open to the top, zip up and swing it back, pull the strap tight again for backpack use, and you are walking hands-free again. Because the demo does not use the quick slide instant release, when swung forward the bag is left in a high position, which does force you to contort your arm to get something out. If used correctly, I think the side access is totally worth it because there is no hassle, at least not nearly as much of a hassle as having to take the thing off your back, put it on the ground, open the whole bag, get the camera, and worry about passerby helping themselves to the entire contents of the wide open bag on the ground while your eye is in the viewfinder trying to get the shot in time. (The alternative is stop and take the time to close up the bag and put it back on before you get to actually photograph.) Aside from that, again the review is helpful because it shows that neither bag is a clear winner; one bag is better for one use case and the other bag is preferable for another.
I didn't think to include loosening the strap. That's a good point. I still find it unwieldy to do it that way with or without the added space however. It's the same problem I have with sling bags - they don't want to zip back up when I'm holding my camera and zipping one handed, and I definitely don't want my bag open unless I'm taking something out of it. I can see how the bag would be useful in a run and gun situation but I'm still not sold on side access. I've owned the PD for over a year and I've used that feature maybe twice the entire time and that's with using it every day. Most of the time I end up putting it down for safety reasons anyway. I get what you're saying though. We can agree to disagree. I hope you enjoyed the video and thank you for watching!
I own a PD as well and love it but NOT for photography. I think the side access is a total mess: It opens the wrong way imho and the dividers won't really help if you don't have the exact fitting gear. Smaller lenses wiggle around like crazy and you have to stick to their folders' 3-step origami separation concept and cannot fine adjust your bag's setting overall. I just use it for commuting or some short trips in the summer from time to time and the rest of year it just looks good in my office. That's it. If I wanna be productive and flexible out there it's a no-go for me.
Peak Design has multiple different modular cubes and pouches you can add to this bag and make it exactly as you want it. However it's an additional cost so the price is actually very similar when you take it under consideration. Both backpacks are great but I would still go with Peak Design.
Have been looking to upgrade from my Case Logic SLRC-206 that I have had for 8-9 years now. This review did a great job of breaking down all the differences of the bags to help make the choice a bit more clear. It seems like the perfect bag is the Peak Design with the structure, interior organization, and slight increase in space that the Nomatic bag brings. After using a backpack for many years without the side access I can think of many scenarios where it would be useful to have quick and convenient access to gear. Having to remove my bag constantly to switch lenses or just put the camera away has had me looking for a bag that will help with that. Leaning towards the peak design since I mostly use my backpack for the convenience of being able to make adjustments to my camera or stow it away is my primary use. This has been the best review I have found and has helped with making what I think will be the right choice!
thanks for a great comparison, and i appreciate you mentioning which one has a vegan option and what that is! I wish peak design extended it to other colors though! I personally love that side access to open on the go!
Hey man, great review. Watched this one and the PD backpack original review. Surprised you don't have more subs, tbh. Good production quality, funny clips, and insightful info while being objective. Keep it up!
I really appreciate that. Thank you very much for watching and I'm looking forward to getting more subs but I'm happy with where I'm at so far. I bought my first camera 2 and a half years ago so I don't think I've really earned my stripes yet but hopefully as time goes on the channel grows and moves forward. Stay tuned!
I have a love hate with the PD backpack. For me it's a mediocre camera bag but it's an awesome travel bag. It's a great general use option for traveling imo. It's also incredibly tough. I've not been gentle with mine over the years and it hasn't deformed or showing and serious signs of wear and mine is the Ver 1 model. While it's not my first pick for general daily use when I really need something to pull double duty it's my go too.
I've spent the last 4 days thinking about backpacks and whether I want/need a new one. This comment sums up exactly how I feel about the PD bag. I have the 30L version, and it's not the first thing I want to reach for in most situations, but if I need something to function as both a camera bag and an EDC, for instance when traveling, then it is a better option than most. I like that it's modular and that you can use the origami dividers more as levels instead of for camera bodies and lenses. It means I can store a tech pouch on top, store books on the next level etc. It means you don't have to go digging for things. That said, if I ever plan a completely photography-oriented trip, I may have to pick up the McKinnon bag.
I bought my ED as a portable camera bag. I now realize how much I hate carrying camera gear on back. Put it on a roller (Think Tank) or a nice should bag (PD, Thinktank, Manfrotto). I love the ED because it really does work well for travel. Its very practical for laptop, packing cubes, toilet tree bag, etc.
I would like the Peter Mckinnon bag as it is, but with additional option for side access, for example to get out equipment from lower part of the bag from both sides. but as configurable as it is with all dividers.
I use the 30l peak design daily, I prefer the side entry. And PD accessories are great. Debated buying the Nomatic since it stands up on the ground, but already have the lowepro 450 and like that it can take a beating. Wish I had a use for the nomadic to try it, but would probably go with the travel bag from PD if I was going to add another camera bag.
Different strokes for different folks! I know that side access is good for some people it's just not for me. I hear a LOT about the Lowepro bags maybe I'll review one soon!
I got both and will say that I been gravitating towards the Nomatic just ever so slighty. The fact that it stands upright by itself is a hugely underrated feature that I didn't think I would care for so much. I also think the Peak Design external carry system is wayyyyyy better than the Nomatic though. Also the fact I can just pop the camera cubes in and out of the Nomatic makes it such an easy bag to transition from being a camera bag to just an everyday backpack where as the PD i have to put in just a bit more work to take all my gear in and out if I decide to use it for other things other than photo/video. Great comparison!
Thanks man, yeah those side pockets on the Nomatic are rough... but it's a great bag otherwise. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, if you have any requests let me know down in the comments!
@@SamuelJamesVideos I think some "hacks" you do to get around some shortcomings of each of the bags to show everyone would be nice. Like external loops or carries you could add on to make the bag more functional or even changing the zip pulls to help separate the compartments of each of the bag.
Thinking if I can show up to a professional shoot with pirates all over my bag… I had a PD messenger bag and I ended up giving it away to a coworker and I absolutely don’t miss the origami system. Great review.
Hey man, I just happened to stop by at your channel and thank you so much for your comparison video. I've been looking for camera backpacks to buy and this video helped me a lot. I've just bought 2 bags for myself after many hours of comparison, F-stop Ajna and nomatic 8L slingbag. Then, a day later I found out that PM 35L camera backpack can fit the slingbag, so I was watching random review videos and here I am. I just wanted to let you know that your video quality is outstanding among others and I hope you continue what you do when you get a chance. Cheers!!
Not a professional photographer, but I own two F-Stop bags with ICUs and back access, as well as a Peak Design Messenger Bag (and a few other camera bags). After your review, I'll get the Peak Design Everyday Backpack, because what I carry every day is my notebook, headphones, sunglasses, wallet, keys, phone, water bottle, ... and there just isn't enough space left in the Messenger Bag for my mirrorless camera (with one or two lenses) and other stuff which I'd love to carry with me. On the other side, my F-Stop backpacks do not have a protected place for my notebook, so I can't use them. My idea is that I'll toss my camera + lens on one side, bulky other stuff on the other side (likely in their shoe pouch) and theoretically it should fit my needs better than my previous bags. Not saying the McKinnon one would not work better as a pro photography bag, and I'll still use my F-Stop bags for hiking, but I hope the Peak Design guys can fullfil my everyday needs better with their backpack than with their messenger bag. I am a huge fan of back access, when you swing the fstop bag in front with the hip harness and have access to the whole ICU without the bag on the floor, but having the notebook with me and more storage for everyday items is worth more in my situation.
A better apples to apples comparison would be the Peak Design 30L or 45L Travel Backpack + Camera Cube vs the McKinnon bag because the main difference you like between the bags is the camera cube style organization. Peak Design offers that too and IMO does it better because it’s a more versatile system with more choices of how you can use the bag (aside from photo gear).
Sick videos. You are a good creator. Not sure what you use for monitors/headphones but your voice might be sitting a bit low in the mix by the time it gets served to viewers.
I absolutely love the Nomatic 25L. Being able to seamlessly swap gear in seconds makes all the difference in the world. I've always heard good things about the PD bags, but they seem to focus more on comfort and exterior function rather than gear organization. That's where Nomatic takes the cake.
So i got the Peak design v2 30l and I do like it but I feel like(and this is probably my knowledge lacking) I can't get stuff to stay super well organized in it.
@@SamuelJamesVideos Kinda, I put them pretty equal apart so I could fold up 2 of them to form a side cubby for a 100-400 on the left side, The Bottom I put my laptop charger then folded up the outside to put my filters, middle I put my 24-70 or 35m in the middle of the middle row and folded up both sides, any other small primes I put on each side or I swap with filters(to prevent movement) also worth noting I put them so that they are lens towards back and mount towards front, kinda fits perfectly that way, my camera + whatever lens is on goes in top area along with anything else I need to quickly grab(headphones/cables)
Have you tried the PGYTECH OneMo 25L backpack? It’s $199 and comes with an added smaller shoulder bag as a bonus that can fit other accessories like a small drone.
Awesome comparison. Ordered the peak design last week since I think the side access was nice for on the go shoots. Not really a fan of how the gear just shifts in there though
I saw a hack on UA-cam where someone wrapped double-sided hook and loop velcro straps around the smaller items so that they would stick to the sides of the PD bag. Ingenious and will try (I have both bags too and not sure which one I prefer yet . . . ).
The real dilemma is, if you already own a PD like I do, is it worth getting the Nomatic? I am seriously thinking about it. I like the PD but after using it for a while, the dividers system sometimes frustrated me and didn't seem like the best design. Sounds like I might have made up my mind. Thanks for this comparison!!
@@SamuelJamesVideos sounds silly, but this would influence my choice in which bag to purchase, they both seem on pair, I leant more towards the Nomatic, but if I can not attach my capture clip to it, this would be a instant "not buy", because If I arrive at the location I prepare everything and attach my camera to the clip. I don't like to fiddle around with the backpack while on the go and shooting.
Does the 25L come with any dividers in the loft section or is that just wide open space? I’m concerned if I put a drone and the controller in there it might be moving around if there isn’t anything to keep it in place. I may have to watch your video again but I’m not fully understanding the “ladder system” in the 25L bag.
Yooo! Another awesome video as promised. Thanks for creating this, it's helped me narrow down my decision to the PM bag (based on the interior design alone - the way the lenses shift around in the PD bag made me cringe). Just one question, with the non-elastic sides on the PM bag, is it a snug enough and secure fit for a Peak Design Tripod?
I would say that the Peak Design tripod is big enough to "activate" the elastic in there just because I know my water bottle does and it's about the same circumference as the PD tripod when it's closed. I'd say if you wanted a little more assurance it's secure grab an extra accessory strap for it. I'm glad it helped you out man, I was saying like damn I promised three people this video today I gotta deliver! Thanks for the views and I'm gonna check out your channel now
Little update on my side: bought a Wandrd Prvk 31!!! Not happy with how gomatic (european Nomatic) was dealing the backpack delay in Europe and still waiting for some answers from the customer service, sp I decided to purchase another bag! Have you ever considered the prvk? if gomatic ever reply I might buy the mc kinnon as well (aka Alba has a spending problem 😅 )
Since you mentioned you would’ve preferred metal hardware; as a backpack nerd plastic is the way to go. I work with metal daily so I typically jump at the chance to use metal but plastic is typically better. Peak design and bellroy use metal and it has a better, more premium feel but I don’t like it in real word use. It’s, negligibly heavier but it also tends to slip. I busted my ass camping in a hammock with metal hardware so now I avoid it at all costs.
Also for the sternum strap, there are a bunch out there that use a fidlock buckle and aren’t elastic, plus have a strap keeper. That would be my recommendation. Easy one handed use.
Wow! Another outstanding product review video, Sam. I don’t have an expensive pro camera bag. What a difficult choice between the two backpack-style bags! I’m curious to see/try one. Dividers which don’t “waste space” are indeed preferable.
The Nomatic bag is VERY expensive. Given the build quality it is worth it however. I waited over a year for mine and I still thought it was worth the wait. Amazon Bags... BLEGH. We all started out on an amazon bag and all hated them but it's a rite of passage for new camera people I think 🎊
@@SamuelJamesVideos Yeah Its rough up here. I can't really order off of any US sites because of that reason. Even the Peak Design V2 30L is on sale for $360 right now but that is still a lot haha.
You look to be a smaller slim guy, so maybe that's why the peak design straps do well with you. I think the straps on the Peak Design bag is the biggest flaw.. even with the pivot points, I think they are too narrow, they should be spaced apart more so the straps don't feel (and look) like they are chasing your armpits. They also seem more designed to look svelte than comfortable, and to look tidy when connected magnetically. They are more 'attached' then slung over your back than they are attentive to carry-comfort and load-bearing.. which I think being mounted/attached more to the top of the back would achieve rather than pinned to the back than 'slung' over. The slim, more lightly padded, and resulting definite unimpressive carry and comfort of the Peak Design backpack straps surely isn't only lost on me. After a lifetime of using backpacks from cheap to pricey, I find them very much on the lower end of comfort. I'm still fortunate enough to own a Nike Epic Exoskeleton backpack from the earlier 2000's… NOW THATS a comfortable supportive backstrap. I'm yet to see its peer in all these new swanky packs being made these days. I'd think things would have only improved and focused on improving function rather than flare.. But much of the upper end seems to be a battle of style and fashion over the mundanity of mission.
This video was fantastic - I use the older larger McKinnon bag every day as we film and it's heavy but it does the job perfectly. I love the modular dividers because I can just swap those around between drone and camera or whatever I need. I was able to carry the DJI FPV big boy in the bag and make the dividers work and then swap to a dual SLR setup just as easily. Nomatic makes great stuff - though I do carry the Peak multi-divider tech bag - though in hindsight $60 for that has felt spendy.
Yes, the weight for the empty bags. For some of us, who are still traveling well into "senior-hood" and a female who wants to carry as many lens as she can, every ounce counts! 🙃
1:24 "All Nomatic products are made with synthetic materials with no animal products. The only exception is the original GOMATIC wallet with a leather pull tab. Alternatively, we have created the V2 line of wallets with pull tabs composed of synthetic material." They seem to all be vegan now
These bags are the instagram "cool guy" bags, if you want a bag that comes with everything you need and is meant for business then go with Think Tank/Mindshift bags (same company different names). The Mindshift Backlight series are perfect little bags that come with all he dividers and straps you need, and are just as rugged if not more rugged than the fancy smancy petter mck'coolguy bag or the peak designs bag. The Think Tank / Mindshift bags come in many different size options for the same style of bag and are a bit pricier depending on the bag/size you choose, but you get what you pay for.
The Peak Design is just as modular, except you can't take out any compartments since it's based on the dividers. Just arrange the internal dividers based on your load out. Modular without having to buy more stuff.
I decided to pick up the PD 30L from REI because of the return policy in case I don't like it. If Nomadic had a similar policy, I would have tried theirs instead.
Problem with these bags... they are heavy. with nothing in it, its about 5lbs. Not ideal for everyday carry. They should design one where you can take out some of the padding when you dont need them.
Save your money and buy a Lowepro 400AW iii - half the price, well built, and imho better designed - these bags are for posers with more money than sense.
This is a highly biased review. You basically just gave everything to PM. And tie if you couldn’t come up with reason why PD is better. Horrible biased review
Awesome comparison. Ordered the peak design last week since I think the side access was nice for on the go shoots. Not really a fan of how the gear just shifts in there though
I'm sure you could return it if you hate it. It's not a huge deal but it definitely sucks sometimes especially with smaller lenses. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
What pro camera bag do YOU have your eye on? Let me know down in the comments!!!
Nomadic for sure.
Peak design, love it
Nice job on this review; the comparison made something very clear. The Nomatic seems superior as a pure photography bag, where you put down the bag on location, open it up, and stay there for a while working. If that was how I work, the Nomatic would be the one. But the video also shows that I made the right choice with the Peak Design Everyday Backpack, because I don’t use it as a pure photography bag, but for literally how they named it: An everyday backpack. I mix photo gear and non-photo gear depending on the needs of the day, and the dividers work well for that.
Regarding the side access, I do a lot of street/travel photography where I am constantly on the move, so I do not want to have to put the bag on the ground every time I get something out of it. Instead I put the photo gear on the one side that I plan to access on demand.
Your video includes a short demo of side access with text saying it’s more of a hassle than it’s worth. That might be because the feature was incorrectly demonstrated. Peak Design designed it so you first pull the quick release slide to instantly lengthen the strap, because that drops the bag down to the optimal arm’s length for quickly unzipping it and grabbing what you need, leaving it stable on shoulder with the long side open to the top (like a shoulder bag) while you concentrate on getting the shot in time. When you're done, you drop the camera right back into its slot in the bag side open to the top, zip up and swing it back, pull the strap tight again for backpack use, and you are walking hands-free again.
Because the demo does not use the quick slide instant release, when swung forward the bag is left in a high position, which does force you to contort your arm to get something out. If used correctly, I think the side access is totally worth it because there is no hassle, at least not nearly as much of a hassle as having to take the thing off your back, put it on the ground, open the whole bag, get the camera, and worry about passerby helping themselves to the entire contents of the wide open bag on the ground while your eye is in the viewfinder trying to get the shot in time. (The alternative is stop and take the time to close up the bag and put it back on before you get to actually photograph.)
Aside from that, again the review is helpful because it shows that neither bag is a clear winner; one bag is better for one use case and the other bag is preferable for another.
I didn't think to include loosening the strap. That's a good point. I still find it unwieldy to do it that way with or without the added space however. It's the same problem I have with sling bags - they don't want to zip back up when I'm holding my camera and zipping one handed, and I definitely don't want my bag open unless I'm taking something out of it. I can see how the bag would be useful in a run and gun situation but I'm still not sold on side access. I've owned the PD for over a year and I've used that feature maybe twice the entire time and that's with using it every day. Most of the time I end up putting it down for safety reasons anyway. I get what you're saying though. We can agree to disagree. I hope you enjoyed the video and thank you for watching!
I own a PD as well and love it but NOT for photography. I think the side access is a total mess: It opens the wrong way imho and the dividers won't really help if you don't have the exact fitting gear. Smaller lenses wiggle around like crazy and you have to stick to their folders' 3-step origami separation concept and cannot fine adjust your bag's setting overall. I just use it for commuting or some short trips in the summer from time to time and the rest of year it just looks good in my office. That's it. If I wanna be productive and flexible out there it's a no-go for me.
Peak Design has multiple different modular cubes and pouches you can add to this bag and make it exactly as you want it. However it's an additional cost so the price is actually very similar when you take it under consideration. Both backpacks are great but I would still go with Peak Design.
Have been looking to upgrade from my Case Logic SLRC-206 that I have had for 8-9 years now. This review did a great job of breaking down all the differences of the bags to help make the choice a bit more clear. It seems like the perfect bag is the Peak Design with the structure, interior organization, and slight increase in space that the Nomatic bag brings.
After using a backpack for many years without the side access I can think of many scenarios where it would be useful to have quick and convenient access to gear. Having to remove my bag constantly to switch lenses or just put the camera away has had me looking for a bag that will help with that. Leaning towards the peak design since I mostly use my backpack for the convenience of being able to make adjustments to my camera or stow it away is my primary use.
This has been the best review I have found and has helped with making what I think will be the right choice!
thanks for a great comparison, and i appreciate you mentioning which one has a vegan option and what that is! I wish peak design extended it to other colors though! I personally love that side access to open on the go!
Love my Nomatic bag. Been on several adventures with it and super easy to use and has held up great!
Hey man, great review. Watched this one and the PD backpack original review. Surprised you don't have more subs, tbh. Good production quality, funny clips, and insightful info while being objective. Keep it up!
I really appreciate that. Thank you very much for watching and I'm looking forward to getting more subs but I'm happy with where I'm at so far. I bought my first camera 2 and a half years ago so I don't think I've really earned my stripes yet but hopefully as time goes on the channel grows and moves forward. Stay tuned!
I have a love hate with the PD backpack. For me it's a mediocre camera bag but it's an awesome travel bag. It's a great general use option for traveling imo. It's also incredibly tough. I've not been gentle with mine over the years and it hasn't deformed or showing and serious signs of wear and mine is the Ver 1 model. While it's not my first pick for general daily use when I really need something to pull double duty it's my go too.
I've spent the last 4 days thinking about backpacks and whether I want/need a new one. This comment sums up exactly how I feel about the PD bag. I have the 30L version, and it's not the first thing I want to reach for in most situations, but if I need something to function as both a camera bag and an EDC, for instance when traveling, then it is a better option than most.
I like that it's modular and that you can use the origami dividers more as levels instead of for camera bodies and lenses. It means I can store a tech pouch on top, store books on the next level etc. It means you don't have to go digging for things. That said, if I ever plan a completely photography-oriented trip, I may have to pick up the McKinnon bag.
I bought my ED as a portable camera bag. I now realize how much I hate carrying camera gear on back. Put it on a roller (Think Tank) or a nice should bag (PD, Thinktank, Manfrotto). I love the ED because it really does work well for travel. Its very practical for laptop, packing cubes, toilet tree bag, etc.
I would like the Peter Mckinnon bag as it is, but with additional option for side access, for example to get out equipment from lower part of the bag from both sides. but as configurable as it is with all dividers.
I use the 30l peak design daily, I prefer the side entry. And PD accessories are great. Debated buying the Nomatic since it stands up on the ground, but already have the lowepro 450 and like that it can take a beating. Wish I had a use for the nomadic to try it, but would probably go with the travel bag from PD if I was going to add another camera bag.
Different strokes for different folks! I know that side access is good for some people it's just not for me. I hear a LOT about the Lowepro bags maybe I'll review one soon!
I got both and will say that I been gravitating towards the Nomatic just ever so slighty. The fact that it stands upright by itself is a hugely underrated feature that I didn't think I would care for so much. I also think the Peak Design external carry system is wayyyyyy better than the Nomatic though. Also the fact I can just pop the camera cubes in and out of the Nomatic makes it such an easy bag to transition from being a camera bag to just an everyday backpack where as the PD i have to put in just a bit more work to take all my gear in and out if I decide to use it for other things other than photo/video. Great comparison!
Thanks man, yeah those side pockets on the Nomatic are rough... but it's a great bag otherwise. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, if you have any requests let me know down in the comments!
@@SamuelJamesVideos I think some "hacks" you do to get around some shortcomings of each of the bags to show everyone would be nice. Like external loops or carries you could add on to make the bag more functional or even changing the zip pulls to help separate the compartments of each of the bag.
Thinking if I can show up to a professional shoot with pirates all over my bag… I had a PD messenger bag and I ended up giving it away to a coworker and I absolutely don’t miss the origami system. Great review.
Thank you. The pirate logos are really minimal besides the back tbh it shouldn't be an issue
Hey man, I just happened to stop by at your channel and thank you so much for your comparison video. I've been looking for camera backpacks to buy and this video helped me a lot. I've just bought 2 bags for myself after many hours of comparison, F-stop Ajna and nomatic 8L slingbag. Then, a day later I found out that PM 35L camera backpack can fit the slingbag, so I was watching random review videos and here I am. I just wanted to let you know that your video quality is outstanding among others and I hope you continue what you do when you get a chance. Cheers!!
Not a professional photographer, but I own two F-Stop bags with ICUs and back access, as well as a Peak Design Messenger Bag (and a few other camera bags).
After your review, I'll get the Peak Design Everyday Backpack, because what I carry every day is my notebook, headphones, sunglasses, wallet, keys, phone, water bottle, ... and there just isn't enough space left in the Messenger Bag for my mirrorless camera (with one or two lenses) and other stuff which I'd love to carry with me. On the other side, my F-Stop backpacks do not have a protected place for my notebook, so I can't use them.
My idea is that I'll toss my camera + lens on one side, bulky other stuff on the other side (likely in their shoe pouch) and theoretically it should fit my needs better than my previous bags. Not saying the McKinnon one would not work better as a pro photography bag, and I'll still use my F-Stop bags for hiking, but I hope the Peak Design guys can fullfil my everyday needs better with their backpack than with their messenger bag.
I am a huge fan of back access, when you swing the fstop bag in front with the hip harness and have access to the whole ICU without the bag on the floor, but having the notebook with me and more storage for everyday items is worth more in my situation.
A better apples to apples comparison would be the Peak Design 30L or 45L Travel Backpack + Camera Cube vs the McKinnon bag because the main difference you like between the bags is the camera cube style organization. Peak Design offers that too and IMO does it better because it’s a more versatile system with more choices of how you can use the bag (aside from photo gear).
^ this
Sick videos. You are a good creator.
Not sure what you use for monitors/headphones but your voice might be sitting a bit low in the mix by the time it gets served to viewers.
I absolutely love the Nomatic 25L. Being able to seamlessly swap gear in seconds makes all the difference in the world. I've always heard good things about the PD bags, but they seem to focus more on comfort and exterior function rather than gear organization. That's where Nomatic takes the cake.
It's definitely a killer bag. I am going to have this thing for years to come for sure.
@@SamuelJamesVideos Same. It's perfect for every day use, as well as a secondary load-out for bigger shoots.
So i got the Peak design v2 30l and I do like it but I feel like(and this is probably my knowledge lacking) I can't get stuff to stay super well organized in it.
I felt the exact same way when I first bought it. Did you figure it out yet?
@@SamuelJamesVideos Kinda, I put them pretty equal apart so I could fold up 2 of them to form a side cubby for a 100-400 on the left side, The Bottom I put my laptop charger then folded up the outside to put my filters, middle I put my 24-70 or 35m in the middle of the middle row and folded up both sides, any other small primes I put on each side or I swap with filters(to prevent movement) also worth noting I put them so that they are lens towards back and mount towards front, kinda fits perfectly that way, my camera + whatever lens is on goes in top area along with anything else I need to quickly grab(headphones/cables)
Have you tried the PGYTECH OneMo 25L backpack? It’s $199 and comes with an added smaller shoulder bag as a bonus that can fit other accessories like a small drone.
No I have not but I've heard a LOT of good things about them. I'll be sure to review one in the future!
Excellent review thanks.
No problem! Thanks for watching
Awesome comparison. Ordered the peak design last week since I think the side access was nice for on the go shoots. Not really a fan of how the gear just shifts in there though
Yeah it's definitely a bummer to see that, I definetly hate that wasted space as well. thank you for watching!
I saw a hack on UA-cam where someone wrapped double-sided hook and loop velcro straps around the smaller items so that they would stick to the sides of the PD bag. Ingenious and will try (I have both bags too and not sure which one I prefer yet . . . ).
will the nomatic cubes fit on the peak design back? if they do can you place them vertically so you can access them trough the side?
The real dilemma is, if you already own a PD like I do, is it worth getting the Nomatic? I am seriously thinking about it. I like the PD but after using it for a while, the dividers system sometimes frustrated me and didn't seem like the best design. Sounds like I might have made up my mind. Thanks for this comparison!!
That's exactly what I did - I upgraded to the Nomatic from the PD. I would highly recommend it. I hope that helps!
I've just realized how f'ed up the pricing is here in Thailand. The Nomatic is around $228 while the Peak design is around $365
Great video. Easy to understand at 1.5x and you seem like a cool guy.
When your traveling on plan, does nomatic pass as a personal item?
Great and insightful review. Thanks!
Those are two excellent bags. Let us know if you want to check out one of our many excellent camera bags or tripods.
Email me at Samuelsklaney@gmail.com if you'd like to discuss this further. You products look great!
Great review!!!
Thank you!
Thanks for this video man! 🙌
If you feel that the nomadic use most of these spaces smartly well why not purchase the dividers to use exclusively on the Peak Design bag?
Great video man! I have the Peak Design bag already but I been thinking about upgrading to a full access type bag. This video helped. 😎🤙🏽
I'm glad it helped! I hope you come over to the full access side, it's the right side
question is, does the peak design capture clip fit on the strap of the Nomadic Bag? The straps seem pretty wide.
That's a good question. They are pretty thick so I'm not sure that it would, maybe in the future I could make a video about that cap clip
@@SamuelJamesVideos sounds silly, but this would influence my choice in which bag to purchase, they both seem on pair, I leant more towards the Nomatic, but if I can not attach my capture clip to it, this would be a instant "not buy", because If I arrive at the location I prepare everything and attach my camera to the clip. I don't like to fiddle around with the backpack while on the go and shooting.
It does:)
Does the 25L come with any dividers in the loft section or is that just wide open space? I’m concerned if I put a drone and the controller in there it might be moving around if there isn’t anything to keep it in place. I may have to watch your video again but I’m not fully understanding the “ladder system” in the 25L bag.
It doesn't have dividers up there but you could buy some seperately if you wanted to for sure because it's Velcro up there
@@SamuelJamesVideos oh ok thanks!!
Yooo! Another awesome video as promised. Thanks for creating this, it's helped me narrow down my decision to the PM bag (based on the interior design alone - the way the lenses shift around in the PD bag made me cringe). Just one question, with the non-elastic sides on the PM bag, is it a snug enough and secure fit for a Peak Design Tripod?
I would say that the Peak Design tripod is big enough to "activate" the elastic in there just because I know my water bottle does and it's about the same circumference as the PD tripod when it's closed. I'd say if you wanted a little more assurance it's secure grab an extra accessory strap for it. I'm glad it helped you out man, I was saying like damn I promised three people this video today I gotta deliver! Thanks for the views and I'm gonna check out your channel now
Could you use the sternum strap from the peak design on the mckinnon bag?
I’ve been looking at upgrading from the v1 PD thanks for this!
Hell yeah man! I hope you love the new bag, I know I do!
@@SamuelJamesVideos the PM is my favorite bag so far. I have 8 haha. It ain’t perfect but it tackles about 90% of what I want flawlessly
Awesome video!!
PD is better where it is not critical. PM is better where it matters like keeping gears secure.
I agree with you there
Little update on my side: bought a Wandrd Prvk 31!!! Not happy with how gomatic (european Nomatic) was dealing the backpack delay in Europe and still waiting for some answers from the customer service, sp I decided to purchase another bag! Have you ever considered the prvk? if gomatic ever reply I might buy the mc kinnon as well (aka Alba has a spending problem 😅 )
Dope review dude! Love the in depth detail and insight you have.
Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. This video took a while because it's a lot of info but I'm definitely proud of how it turned out
Since you mentioned you would’ve preferred metal hardware; as a backpack nerd plastic is the way to go. I work with metal daily so I typically jump at the chance to use metal but plastic is typically better. Peak design and bellroy use metal and it has a better, more premium feel but I don’t like it in real word use. It’s, negligibly heavier but it also tends to slip. I busted my ass camping in a hammock with metal hardware so now I avoid it at all costs.
Also for the sternum strap, there are a bunch out there that use a fidlock buckle and aren’t elastic, plus have a strap keeper. That would be my recommendation. Easy one handed use.
Great comparison.
Sick shirt bro. Did Elton John give you that?
Wow! Another outstanding product review video, Sam. I don’t have an expensive pro camera bag. What a difficult choice between the two backpack-style bags! I’m curious to see/try one. Dividers which don’t “waste space” are indeed preferable.
A good camera bag can make or break a shooter, access to your gear is very important. I'm glad you liked it and I hope you're doing well!
Thanks for the video, just ordered Nomatic bag. God was it expensive but hopefully worth it... Amazon bag wasn’t cutting it.
The Nomatic bag is VERY expensive. Given the build quality it is worth it however. I waited over a year for mine and I still thought it was worth the wait. Amazon Bags... BLEGH. We all started out on an amazon bag and all hated them but it's a rite of passage for new camera people I think 🎊
This is the video we all needed. Thank you so much
That's encouraging bro thank you very much, I'm glad you liked it!
I’m taking MKBHD over Peter McKinnon all day
What does MKBHD stand for
@@carlosr.2027 The goat
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The Nomatic bag V1 is $456 before tax+shipping here in Canada 😪😪
Jesus that's brutal man I'm sorry to hear that it's definitely not worth that much
@@SamuelJamesVideos Yeah Its rough up here. I can't really order off of any US sites because of that reason. Even the Peak Design V2 30L is on sale for $360 right now but that is still a lot haha.
You look to be a smaller slim guy, so maybe that's why the peak design straps do well with you.
I think the straps on the Peak Design bag is the biggest flaw.. even with the pivot points, I think they are too narrow, they should be spaced apart more so the straps don't feel (and look) like they are chasing your armpits. They also seem more designed to look svelte than comfortable, and to look tidy when connected magnetically. They are more 'attached' then slung over your back than they are attentive to carry-comfort and load-bearing.. which I think being mounted/attached more to the top of the back would achieve rather than pinned to the back than 'slung' over.
The slim, more lightly padded, and resulting definite unimpressive carry and comfort of the Peak Design backpack straps surely isn't only lost on me.
After a lifetime of using backpacks from cheap to pricey, I find them very much on the lower end of comfort. I'm still fortunate enough to own a Nike Epic Exoskeleton backpack from the earlier 2000's… NOW THATS a comfortable supportive backstrap. I'm yet to see its peer in all these new swanky packs being made these days.
I'd think things would have only improved and focused on improving function rather than flare.. But much of the upper end seems to be a battle of style and fashion over the mundanity of mission.
This video was fantastic - I use the older larger McKinnon bag every day as we film and it's heavy but it does the job perfectly. I love the modular dividers because I can just swap those around between drone and camera or whatever I need. I was able to carry the DJI FPV big boy in the bag and make the dividers work and then swap to a dual SLR setup just as easily. Nomatic makes great stuff - though I do carry the Peak multi-divider tech bag - though in hindsight $60 for that has felt spendy.
Great video 😃 it would be great if you mentioned the weight too!
Do you mean the weights for the empty bags?
Yes, the weight for the empty bags. For some of us, who are still traveling well into "senior-hood" and a female who wants to carry as many lens as she can, every ounce counts! 🙃
1:24 "All Nomatic products are made with synthetic materials with no animal products. The only exception is the original GOMATIC wallet with a leather pull tab. Alternatively, we have created the V2 line of wallets with pull tabs composed of synthetic material."
They seem to all be vegan now
I have the peak design backpack and kinda have the same opinion about the side access
Yeah, it's definitely not worth the hype in my opinion. It's a cool thought, but full access is way better
These bags are the instagram "cool guy" bags, if you want a bag that comes with everything you need and is meant for business then go with Think Tank/Mindshift bags (same company different names). The Mindshift Backlight series are perfect little bags that come with all he dividers and straps you need, and are just as rugged if not more rugged than the fancy smancy petter mck'coolguy bag or the peak designs bag. The Think Tank / Mindshift bags come in many different size options for the same style of bag and are a bit pricier depending on the bag/size you choose, but you get what you pay for.
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The nomatic bag is WAY too full camera bag. The everyday backpack definitely seems way more versatile
I owned both. PD sucked. Always worried about dropping lenses. And PD won’t stand up on its own.
Let’s go
I know they are similar in size but I feel they are for different purposes. I think the nomadic compares more to pd travel pack
So the PMC isn't vegan?
The Peak Design is just as modular, except you can't take out any compartments since it's based on the dividers. Just arrange the internal dividers based on your load out. Modular without having to buy more stuff.
I decided to pick up the PD 30L from REI because of the return policy in case I don't like it. If Nomadic had a similar policy, I would have tried theirs instead.
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Some one out bid peak
These two bags were beaten by better ones
Have you tried out both of them?
@@SamuelJamesVideos I have many friends who are photographers, two of them own the bags in this video.
What were the better bags?
Which ones
Problem with these bags... they are heavy. with nothing in it, its about 5lbs. Not ideal for everyday carry. They should design one where you can take out some of the padding when you dont need them.
Isn’t that what was shown in the video when he removed some of the dividers which created more space under the “loft”?
Save your money and buy a Lowepro 400AW iii
- half the price, well built, and imho better designed - these bags are for posers with more money than sense.
Have you tried either of them or are you just saying that because you don't like them for no reason?
This is a highly biased review. You basically just gave everything to PM. And tie if you couldn’t come up with reason why PD is better. Horrible biased review
why dont you buy lower pro and you all good
Awesome comparison. Ordered the peak design last week since I think the side access was nice for on the go shoots. Not really a fan of how the gear just shifts in there though
I'm sure you could return it if you hate it. It's not a huge deal but it definitely sucks sometimes especially with smaller lenses. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
@@SamuelJamesVideos you’re good man! Great videos. If anything it’s good insight into what they both have to offer. Thanks!