Run the Jewels: Secret Metalheads (Killer Mike and El-P on Love of Heavy Music)
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Run the Jewels are an explosive, aggressively creative hip-hop act that draws inspiration from all genres, including hard rock and heavy metal. In the premiere episode of "Secret Metalheads" - our new video series where we talk to musicians and other inspiring figures outside of metal about their love for the genre - Killer Mike and El-P reveal their personal and creative history with heavy music, from Black Sabbath and Metallica to Body Count, Rage Against the Machine, the Melvins, Nine Inch Nails and beyond.
They say, "secret metal heads" but the fans always knew. You can hear the influence in El-P's production.
Silentype Student Producer el-p listed punk & post punk and hardcore bands at first.
You ever listen to Fantastic Damage? The production on that album is so explosive it couldn't have came from anything but metal.
Silentype Student Producer agreed
El-P was influenced by the Bomb Squad, who were also heavy metal fans... hence their use of noise in their dissonant production.
Pretty sure Trent Reznor produced one of his solo discs
Love what Killer Mike said about the music helps getting the rage out of you instead of taking it out on somebody. El-P & Killer Mike are legends,
El-P shouting out The Melvins, so rad.
The Melvins are probably the most important band nobody knows.
Some good ass mentions in this. Deftones too.
Seriously. I love them both and now I know one of them loves the other. Super news.
Melvins are one of the best bands around these days. So cool El-P got totally into them and got all their albums immediately.
@@blackspring3207I haven’t finished the vid but I know he’s been a queens of the Stone Age since Rated R
I barely know Killer Mike's music, but every time I see him in an interview or on his Netflix series, I can't help but love him.
Rage and RTJ should form a supergroup called Run the Machine. Tom and El P would do some wild riffs together, and Zack's voice works so well with Mike and El already.
Like Anthrax and Public Enemy? Public Anthrax wasn't welcome and, IMO, the first to not back down in cancel culture. Loved the "Basket full of puppies" tour, then the "we're not changing our name" tour. Run The Machine is exactly what Rage Against is now for, dude.
I can't tell if you're criticizing or agreeing with me...but either way, peace and love, dude@@Chumly409
That would be epic.
RTJ songs are head banger material, straight up
Milan Absolutely. I wild out every time I put em on ☺
Fuck yeah blockbuster night 2, hard as hell
Saw em live and yeah that shit was intense
being a metalhead who discovered hip-hop later (and felt in love), is very satisfind to see these artists that I admire having such similarity. it feels I'm doing good
Bruno Varoto hey check out Hacktivist, they are a UK grime/djent band. They basically rap over heavy metal. I think you will like it
Yo. Hit some immortal technique up. Start with "dominant species"...wait to listen to "dance with the devil"...until you are ready. Its heartbreaking...and heartening. Theres a gap. Its a song and a mini song. Listen to the end.
Im the opposite i was all hiphop rap then found a liking to rock metal later on
I was the opposite. I was originally a Hip-hop fan who later became a Metalhead. So I know what you mean 😊
El-P is a treasure to mankind
For shure
So is Killer Mike
@@yeeaahBUDDY killer mike a national treasure
Word
@@yeeaahBUDDY also Word
Killer Mike mentioning that it was the Road Warriors that got him into Sabbath made me smile. They're the same reason I got into Sabbath.
Ahh, #nostalgia! Early to mid-1980s - best pro wrestling era ever?!
I'm a Road Warriors fan. I was too young to notice the music they used. Which Sabbath songs did they use?
Nevermind I just got to that part
Ironman
Me it is was busta rhymes when he asked ozzy to cameo on earlier album
I swear these two are some of the best artists of this generation. They need to be on all the lists of greats. Next to Ozzy, Zappa, Run Dmc, and anybody else that has made great and passionate music.
Gang of Four, Suicide, Melvins. I already loved El-P but now he’s on another level
I love when people acknowledge Ice-T and recognize his contributions to not only rap, but metal too. That time he did that track with Six Feet Under was probably one of my favorite rap/metal crossovers.
Need to hear you guys do something like that. RTJ with literally anyone in metal would be dope.
Ye I'm a couple years too late on this video, but I give no fucks.
Didn’t know that happened! Thanks for the tip! Six feet under is some crazy heavy shit to collaborate with lol. Ironically they were at the first “scene” type of show I went to see, along with 25 to Life and maybe E Town Concrete (might have two shows mixed up) but I’m thankful to this day I got be here in the central NJ area and a teen in mid 90’s with so much awesome music and fans everywhere. I always wonder what a 15 year old dude is expected to listen to to cope with that rage that comes out of nowhere in ur teens? Anyway I was actually listening to Cannibal Corpse this morning after reading about Chris Barnes being in both CC and 6fu
I remember when Body Count first came out. I went to see them at a little club and the first half of the show was Ice doing his rap hits, of which I was familiar with some, then closed out with Body Count. It was seriously one of the most inclusive and positive atmospheres I've ever experienced at a show and he absolutely encouraged it. A true O.G. of moving the cultural dialogue forward.
I know it's not a full on crossover but hearing zack de la Rocha from rage on the 2 rtj songs hes on makes me so happy. That's close enough of a rtj metal collab for me
Closet Metalheads
cheese penus one would argue that RATM is hip hop, others hard rock. I feel they're a perfect mashup of both
Huge Metalhead head here, and lifelong hardcore Deftones fan, hearing Mike name drop them made sense to me. Hearing Jamie name drop Trent Reznor makes a tone of sense too.
He was on El-P's second album
Yeah, on Flientology.
Plus Trent produced Saul William's debut album, who then featured as a background vocalist on NIN's survivalism. So it's safe to say that Reznor likes good rap music.
Yes, this is the connection that was needed. I could say a lot about Killer Mike (Super Dope) but for those that don’t know EL-P has to be one of the most underrated names in Hip Hop maybe of all time, don’t take my word check his credentials!!!!!!!!
Much Love
Co Flo! RAWKUS! Def Jux!
Erich F
Thank You, so glad to hear some others are familiar with that history.
Def Junx is half the reason I make music.
On par with the best that ever took the gig....
more then 20 years in the game. Owned a label, and like Erich F already said Company flow, Rawkus, he predicted futures and was kinda ahead of it's time since his sound hasn't changed but evovled. Top 10 easy
Going all the way back to funcrusher plus he's been dope.
I love that Run The Jewels have a place on NPR stage alongside a pop star like Adele or in the pages of a metal magazine beside the frontman of Rage Against the Machine. Good music knows no boundaries.
I could never imagine putting any genre limits on myself in music.
It's all way too fucking interesting.
I didn't think I could love these guys even more, but this video proves it.
they should do a full album with Zach De La Rocha
That would be awesome. Hes an underrated writer/rapper imo
He was on RTJ4, and was one of the better songs on that album
@@jarodmartin1413 they have multiple tracks together, I just think they should do a full studio album. It would hit hard!
Absolutely into it!
Anything Zach touche's turns to gold.
Saw the Melvins a couple years ago. I was so shellshocked after the show that I couldn't drive. Barely drank, but my brain was rattled for an hour. It was _heavy_ .
Listening to Mike and El-P talk about metal 😍😍😍😍 Them teaming up with Zach de la Rocha is actually how I first heard of Run the Jewels. I heard that first song and directly went and binge listened to Run the Jewels 2. I’ve been obsessed ever since!
Hearing EL-P dropping nods to The Mars Volta makes me so happy.
Killer Mike talking about geeking out on Trent Reznor made me smile - I grew up on Nine Inch Nails
After hearing all their influences, it's easy to see why I like them so muc, we have a lot of similar likes and inspirations. RatM, Suicide, Gang of Four, The Road Warriors, The Mars Volta. These guys are so good
Man, these two are so dam solidly down to earth and genuine. Love it.
RTJ - can’t get better honesty. Real lyrics, makes me want to memorize rap lyrics again. Good luck. Killer Mike 2024
This was me in the 1990s growing up on RATM, Deftones , tool, NIN, korn, cypress hill, dre, System of a Down etc etc - one of the best lollas I saw was korn, System of a Down, tool and snoop dog - then the 2007/ rock the Bells LA and SF shows were straight up legit. Public Enemy, cypress hill and so many more ....I flew from Singapore and spent 2 weeks in California.
You and I grew up in the same time then.
things metal dudes and rap fans had in common 40's, bongs, blunts, kung fu/horror/action/scifi movies, batman, wolverine, Thor, Larry Bird, Doctor J, Mike Tyson, black leather jackets, street fighter II turbo, tekken, BMX bikes, hi top sneakers, long shorts, horizontal striped shirts, camouflage, hating cops and sellouts, hanging out with that guy who had a weight bench in his crib, dreadlocks, loud speakers, stereo equipment, riding in an Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
@Azazel Acheron oh you must be a child then if you don't remember 1988
@Azazel Acheron I'm trying to figure out the definition of irony... Would you mind helping?
Azazel Acheron Those bands aren’t radio friendly. They were just liked by so many people that radio stations played their music (heavily censored of course).
Body Count was that shit!!! I'm not a Hiphop head, I'm a metalhead all day. Mad respect to Killer Mike and all those who respect the music, culture and the people. Music is love, no matter how hard it is. And this is mad love.
For some reason watching El-P being reverential when talking about the Melvins gave me goosebumps. I love the Melvins and i know for a lot of people they are an acquired taste.
'Chasin' down that hard moment'. I listen to ALL kinds of music and there are these 'hard moments' all over the place. Rap, dub and metal give more than most. Just discovered these guys and they've renewed my faith in rap. Their music has found it's time.
Anyone who has ever heard El’s solo discography and his production style should understand his love for heavy and industrial music
Without knowing that El-P liked metal, I always thought his production was the type of production a metalhead would do if they were working in hop hop.
El P and Nin is such a good combo. Flyentology has aged super well
Deftones ❤️. These Guys habe a great taste of Music.
DEFTONES! Sacto represent!
See the Melvins live when you can. It's always an experience; the way they build a set, the way it flows, if you're a music fan you have to witness it.
Killer Mike and El-P are a match that was meant to be!
What killa mike said about ice t needs acknowledgement,good to hear. Heavy metal heavyweights all of em!
So much love for these guys.
This one's cool. I'm actually going to check these guys out. Much respect.
When you say you're going to check these guys out, do you mean Run the Jewels, or all the bands and artists mentioned in the video? Just curious.
I've been a lover of metal and hip hop since 1987. Discovered it all at age 11 through some older lads and used to go watch the DJ battles at the local record store, face squished against the glass because I was too scared to go in. Also bear in mind that was in South Wales. Hip hop spread really quickly to the UK and there was a thriving b-boy culture in every little backwater town, even if it was just a few mates with a boom box and a copy of a copy. It was also thanks to this music that I learned of the American civil rights movement and had my eyes opened to the way humans can treat each other. Metal was the perfect counterpoint to that. I cut my teeth in Queen then guns n roses and iron maiden, quickly going to megadeth and Metallica then grunge in the early 90s. Then a decade of the most incredible music from both genres, particularly metal which just opened up sonically and went fucking mental. The two meeting was inevitable with the likes of Rage, the Judgment Night soundtrack, Bodycount and public enemy were sampling slayer in the late 80s on she watches channel zero, ahead of the curve as ever. Unfortunately both genres now suffer with weak mainstream acts but there's still as much good music in both as there ever was, you just have to look for it (which is now super easy, thanks interwebs)
Word.
Never knew the tape trading era of metal (I'm too young for that). But the internet really made discovering new bands WAY easier than in the early 2000.
El-P being a fan of The Mars Volta is something I never would've assumed, but now that I know it, it makes soooo much sense
Gang of Four and Suicide are incredible and so so underrated. They had a huge impact and influence on so many artists.
Hearing El-P shoutout my favourite band of all time, The Clash, is so powerful man. Love that the influence of those guys is still being felt decades on.
And given how much the Clash themselves fell in love with New York hip-hop in 1980, it must be cool to see it come full circle like that.
Huge metal head, grew up on punk metal crust and rap. So nice to see groups crossing divides and taking on styles from each other. There is no Archspire without tech n9ne
As someone who gained an initial appreciation for music by way of 70s rock and 80s metal, I can say that I have always heavily appreciated rap lyrics and beats.
Thank you, Mike, for shouting out Body Count!!!! Mucho respetó!!!!
I love both hip hop and metal, RTJ is one of my favorite groups out there atm, I got to see them twice last year. The appeal that caught me when I first heard them was the visceral tone. While still hip hop, it reminded me of metal because of how aggressive and in your face it was and I’d have to say RTJ2 is up there on my favorite albums of all time lists
The Melvins get shouted out more and more. Good, they more than earned it!
Thank You Mike for saying what Ive been shouting for years!!! Ice-T started gangsta rap & even NWA will agree. he's the OG
Its interesting because the great musicians always give kudos to other genres and influences outside of the intended genre. You can't put yourself in a box and you have to be open minded with it comes to creativity.
As a huge Sabbath and Melvins fan and RTJ fan, this made me so much happy
Killer Mike shouting out the Road Warriors. How is it possible to like this act anymore? These two are gold.
Man, when El P said "chasing that heavy moment, that riff" I can really relate to that as a metalhead. I wonder what he and Killer Mike would think if they heard something like Death -- Pull the Plug. Awesome riff in that song. Chuck was a beast.
Honestly, every video with these two is a must watch.
El-P even worked with Justin Broadrick on an industrial project. Broadrick is as heavy as it gets.
Holy shit thanks for this
One of the first concerts I ever saw as a kid was Anthrax with Public Enemy. Huge Metal/Hip Hop fan ever since that show.
I am a 52 year old METAL HEAD and I love these guys!
Check out RTJ4 - it's fucking epic! I can't stop listening to it...as a 53-yr old metalhead!
Everything I hear you two say makes me love you even more! Thank you so much for what you do
EL-P was 17 when he made the album with Company Flow. Think about that, crazy!
The synergy and appreciation amongst all of my favorite bands gives me a sense of vindication for the choices I've made. I appreciate the shit out of this video...
Sometimes when I listen to music I just want it to be heavy: overwhelming yet exhilarating, a release of tension and a rush of new energy at once. These guys do it for me. RATM, Deftones, NIN for sure. Guess that doesn't make me a very tasteful or intellectual listener, but you can't deny power when you hear it and feel it.
Digging For Windows goes so hard. When I got into RATM I discovered that song, but now I'm getting into RTJ and it makes sense that El produced the track.
I couldn't even pay attention to what they were saying halfway through because of how hard Zack de la Rocha kills his feature on Kill Your Masters.
Yeah man! Excellent! I remember having the Run DMC twelve inch one of the first crossover tunes to break big time! and being a true lover of Rap, Metal, Hardcore or whatever...it's good to find out about like minded dudes! Cheers!
I love Metal. I love Hip Hop. Actually...it feels good to find something you like in everything.
DJ Z Trip made an awesome mashup with old school hip-hop and classic rock. The whole thing made perfect sense. Loved it. I've always been a Tool fan who bumped Naz. Don't deprive yourselves people.
Revolver, you earned your subscription with this new series! and to have RTJ in the debut episode? We're not worthy!
So musically, I'm in the right place😁 thänx 4 Zack's song at the end, true legendary spit master👌
RTJ JUST KEEPS GETTING HEAVY AND BETTER EACH TIME CALLING OUT ICE T/BODY COUNT DAMMMMM!!! RESPECT
Respect to Killer Mike for that shout-out to Ice-T. RTJ you guys are killing it. 👉👊
Killer Mike's getting those grays in his beard! Run the Jewels had the most crowd surfing I have seen at any concert, including all of the metal shows I've been to. Crazy show, go see them live. Some well dressed hipster crowd surfed on stage and Killer Mike commented about how it was the first time he had seen someone crowdsurf in hard bottom shoes. Great bunch of guys. Killer Mike was reppin Bernie Sanders! Great video.
Word! word, Word! On most of what you said in this video, but I finally had to comment when you gave Ice-T props that he deserves and doesn't get nearly enough.
Love these dudes ! I think Killer Mike is my brother from another mother.
The Day EL P puts on a Melvins sample on a RTJ song the World will be set straight. Word up!
Gratifying to hear Killer Mike show Deftones some love.
love love love!
Been a fan for a year, the newest single (out of sight) brought me here to look up interviews and damn RTJ is real and educated🔥💯
I read a long time ago the el-p was obsessed with blade runner and authors like Philip K Dick, i think thats where that sharp, rigid, futuristic sound comes from. I've been a fan since like 97 when company flow opened up for the beastie boys at the electric factory in Philly where he basically got booed off the stage. It's amazing to see the evolution from then to now. How can you not love these 2, greatest hip hop duo ever
Deftones, one of my favorite bands ever. I'd say second favorite after Tool. Nothing in any genre I've listened to has gotten close to what that music has offered me. It's past music. Literally is. Too long to explain but the Tool fans know what I mean. They created something bigger than a band.
Zack De La Rocha Respect to that brother !!!
RTJ played before NIN at Aftershock, and I was at first a bit confused, like "What's a hip hop group doing at Aftershock?" I had heard of them, but not really listened to them, but once they took the stage, it made total sense. Now I am a big RTJ fan and I am so glad they are bringing hip hop back to what it used to be.
fkn cool, listing every - rock, metal, hip hop, heavies - band I love going back to my youth that I grew up with, so much common ground!
Coming on this video 2 years later, hearing them talking about "if someone's coming out to your music to beat some ass" and then remember Luke Cage came out to RTJ in the Defenders to beat some ass
People that are true music lovers, usually like everything
I always thought these guys were interesting but now I have a whole new level of respect for them.
The fact that they got to work Omar and Cedric is awesome
I want a collaboration with QOTSA so bad! I can just imagine Josh Homme and El-P in the studio together.
There's a whole album of mashed up El-P beats and Josh Homme vocals out there (It's called El-Q). Look it up, it's good stuff.
TheMogul23 I listened to it, dope stuff 🤘🏽
I did a fan collab
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It will be on RTJ4! Hyped af
Logaritmus I saw the track listing. I’m excited as hell! I can just imagine those two gingers together 🤘🏽
As a devout hip-hop head, I vouch for this. I fucks with metal HEAVY. To me hip-hop is an extension of metal and metal is an extension of hip-hop.
Grew up on both hip hop/rap and rock/metal. Huge fan of both and i kinda see the connection between them. It's not an obvious one but it's there. Maybe it's just my upbringing. But i know for sure, i'll always remeber the first time my dad showed me Van Halen- eruption and the first time my brother showed me Wu tang clan- CREAM.
I’ve always said music is subjective..if you feel it ..your body will move involuntarily..my first love was metal ..and till this day I’m still listening to it , but hip hop and that deep baselines and nice drum patterns that makes it so unique and also well put together i mean music it’s truly an art
0:45 3 years later and Gang of Four gets sampled on "the ground below!" RIP Andy Gill
Run the Jewels IS heavy.
Very upset corona ruined Rage/RTJ show
Real talk.
Such bullshit... I'd rather want everyone safe, but pandemic or not... the world needs Rage and rtj right now more than ever!
This helps me understand my addictive obsession with these lads since RTJ1
There's been a crossover between hardcore metalheads and hardcore hip hop heads for a looooong fucking time. It's something you easily pick up on if you're heavily into either genre or talk to someone from the opposite camp and realize how much you relate to them. Love of metal is why I have a love for hip hop, and it's vice versa for allot of hip hop heads who find love in metal.
Zack on the end credits makes me ❤
I don't think I've ever related to anything more than this. Pretty much summarises my relationship with music.
I am a big fan of these guys. I remember playing old ice t tapes and when body count first hit. They had to release that album without cop killer. So amazing to see them recognize artist and music I like.
Thank you RTJ for giving props to the Deftones!
Return Of The Jedi?
I need that Confederacy 0 USA 1 shirt
Best shirt I've seen in a while
I listen to RTJ every morning ta get me pumped up for the day. Better than a double espresso anytime.
So damn excited to see these guys when their tour rolls through
Two of THE most amazing artist to ever live...Respect. 🙏🏽
Loved Mike giving props to Ice T, never gets enough credit.
I feel like Ice-T is somehow the most underrated artist today. Legend