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This really helped me out! I was initially going for a full lightning build, but after watching the previous video, I tried experimenting with the ice/lightning combo. I wasn’t a big fan of it, though. I’m glad to be back with the full lightning build, but I do wish I hadn’t wasted resources on the other one. Oh well, live and learn!
The cold build is still good and that ring can be used for a lot more builds then just this one. But once you start to do the more endgame stuff this version is just better.
Thanks for this update ! I started into your other version this morning and I'm loving it , even more excited now because I was actually still using LA / LR . Liked/sub'd :)
@SiahZ nice build i love it - it's so much fun and very a good guide. is there a reason why u dont use Maligaro's Virtuosity Fine Bracers for more cit chance?
I'm a little confused with the synergy of this so sorry if this is a silly question but how can u run cast on shock ball lightening with mag salvo doesn't salvo destroy all your rods so there is none for ball lightening to pop when u shock and vice versa like would it be better to just run one over the other and not together
Hi nice update to the build, im going with something similar and would have love to see your character stats to see how much int you need and ball lightning level. I'm struggling to meet high dex and good int, while still needing some str for the gems. Do you think that Cast on shock is more efficient than both herald of ice and herald of thunder for AoE and cleaning packs ?
so to run this setup your going to need around 120 int and 160 spirit, with this setup we do not run herald of ice so you should drop that for cast on shock. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one.
I would probably say the first one I put out. The cold version requires call of the brotherhood which is pricey. The first one I put out will allow you to get said currency to go into this build or the cold version. If you do run the first version I put out run lightning arrow to clear. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one.
I am a bit confused, i have a good bit of this already setup but i dont get anywhere near the amount of energy build up as you do for the ball lightning to cast some information would be so nice
Is there any viable support gems to slot in the last Magnetic salvo slot? I had already upgraded mine to a 6 socket before discovering this build. I will sell the gem if 5 is what's recommended.
6 will give you a lot more damage, so when it comes to what to run I would run I would try out ranged combat support. But I would just test support gems and see what give it more damage overall. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one. and I am gong to try to get a 6th link for magnetic salvo so I will give more info then if I can get my hands on one.
you can use it if you are close but we use a lot of passives that gives us more damage if we are farther away from them so that's why we get distance to get max damage.
Awesome work man. Can’t wait to get home and follow this build. I’ve seen some cast on shock builds and some magnetic salvo builds. Been debating which way I want to go. But this is the best of both worlds. What’s a good goal for my intelligence and dex? And how would you suggest reaching those points for both? I know I can use the enhancements to the quiver bonuses to help with either, but as far as the passives go, should I just alternate between dex/int?
so you are looking for around 212 dex and 115-120 INT, So I would get 2 INT rings and then grab int on the tree to meet that int and then the rest dex.
you get so many orbs it's insane! i changed to this spec but don't get nearly as many orbs. i'm still missing like 15-18 passive points though before i can reach your tree
Why u need crit chance if gem on magnetic salvo guarantees a critical strike? Wouldn't it be better to make a build focused on raw damage and crit damage bonus something instead of crit chance? I don't understand what the purpose is, because the magnetic fubgun build doesn't use crit chance.
so the gem does not guarantee a crit, it give 100% increase crit chance meaning that if we have 10 percent chance it will only add around another 10% chance on that.
I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one. Plus like you said it will be using cast on crit now.
Hey, i wanted to ask if cast on shock is really all that important, i notice that it procs super rarely as most things die before u shock therefore u dont gain any charges, it feels like the dmg hasnt changed all that much with its addition. Perhaps the stats and points could be used for something else? Wanted to know your opinion
Also for the next guide could you please show off your detailed stats on some of the more important skills? Would be nice to see stuff like crit chance for comparison
Idk if it’s just my bow or what, but I’m level 30, into act 2, and I’m doing the whole lightning arrow lightning rod orb or storms all that stuff, my dps with lightning arrow is like 200, and I’m taking forever to kill anything not peon mob related My monk buddy for example has skills that do 800dps I have also average passive tree progression and I grabbed the one section increasing the elemental damages also and the one that does penetration as well
Sorry, I'm new to this game, how do I do a triple shot? I saw there is a "Fork" support gem, but I didn't see it on yours, If someone could explain, I would appreciate it
Hi! Love your content, thanks for that, man! Just one question, for now... Why not Stand and Deliver for enemies within 2m range? I am begginer and still learning but no matter what I do there are always some fast bastards that come close to me 😀
We’re not running that because our focus is on maximizing crit chance. By using Sniper and Death from Afar, we gain increased crit chance the farther we are from enemies. If we used Stand and Deliver, we’d lose that bonus, which is crucial for this build.
@@SiahZ sorry, my question was not clear... I meant to ask, why not run both? As long as Stand and Deliver doesn't cancel Death from Afar, using both is best from both worlds so to speak. Where ever enemies are bonus is counting. It is extra 3 points tho... Not sure if I am missing something. Thanks for fast answer btw!
@@enbard They both would work but obviously we would not get both at the same time. on top of that we are putting 3 more points into that area on the tree when we can be using them for more up time on different passives that would give us more damage.
I didnt know the new electrocute passives were already live. Thanks for this! Idk if this helps or if it's better but I'm currently running my Electrocute Gem on my Herald of Thunder with Neural Overload, it still gives decent electrocute build up, lets your other skills electrocute and frees up a gem slot in Lightning Rod for Conc effect.
mark, rods into lightning arrow to get the shock then get the stun into freezing salvo then mag for huge damage for bossing. For mobbing just rods into lightning arrow.
mark, rods into lightning arrow to get the shock then get the stun into freezing salvo then mag for huge damage for bossing. For mobbing just rods into lightning arrow.
The big problem of mine is Spirit not drop from the act 1 king in tge mist now am the deadeye with no hearanld of thunder meh so sad GGG npt fix it yet
@@SiahZ quick question: when do you think it's okay to switch to this tree from a traditional rod/arrow leveling build? I'm in act 2 cruel and have mag salvo but don't want to hurt myself changing my tree too early.
@@RobertS122surely you can now? i’m going into act 4 with most the stuff, obviously waiting on more support links and the higher lv supports + magnetic salvo though
@@RobertS122if you have the int and dex requirements you can do it. I'm finishing act 3 cruel rn and am still absolutely blasting with just lightning rod and arrow. I won't be switching anytime soon as my int isn't anywhere near 120 to run CoS.
@ for sure, I’ve got some gearing to do. I also poured some GCP’s into COS which helps withe energy gain. I think I also need to level a bit too to get to your level of procing since the max skill level gems I have are 14. Nice guide, thanks again
Must have MAGNETIC SALVO Super Crit Inevitable Crit Elemental Focus Primal Armanent LIGHTNING ROD Acceleration Scattered Shot Heft Electrocution support on rod LIGHTNING ARROW Lightning exposure Lightning infusion Conduction Martial Tempo
You might be confusing Maim with Blind. 12:04 you say it reduces evasion rating and accuracy. Also please start using correct terminology. When you are getting increased mana regen from Clarity, might as well use the correct term the game is using, which is Increased. Else it just leads to newcoming build followers to also start using incorrect terminology. When the game states a bonus providing more damage it's always a new multiplier in the equation. When it states increase its always additive to other mods that also state increase. (Base + Flat) * ( Increase1 + Increase2 ) * ( More1 ) * ( More2 )
Im over this. Switched to the build. Cant do damage. Keep dying. Cant even complete my.first map, cant get orbs to drop to add more sockets to skills, idk im about to give up 😒
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How are you using Inspiration on CoS? The gem is x out saying it doesn't support CoS. So you aren't getting the 40% reduction.
Detailed written guide, with actual leveling info..... INSTANT like!
Seriously though..... Looks great and the mobalytics is well done.
This really helped me out! I was initially going for a full lightning build, but after watching the previous video, I tried experimenting with the ice/lightning combo. I wasn’t a big fan of it, though. I’m glad to be back with the full lightning build, but I do wish I hadn’t wasted resources on the other one. Oh well, live and learn!
The cold build is still good and that ring can be used for a lot more builds then just this one. But once you start to do the more endgame stuff this version is just better.
Thanks for this update ! I started into your other version this morning and I'm loving it , even more excited now because I was actually still using LA / LR . Liked/sub'd :)
Glad your enjoying the builds and both of them work great it's just his version works better for the high endgame.
Been loving your build guides, keep them coming!
Will do!
Good to see u adding Lightning arrow for the clear, i was also using it just cus salvo seemed slow for the mobs
Your thumbnail is really standing out. Not at all like any others I have seen. Very creative and captivating. Nice job
@SiahZ
nice build i love it - it's so much fun and very a good guide.
is there a reason why u dont use Maligaro's Virtuosity Fine Bracers for more cit chance?
so the gloves fix our crit damage to 300% and will not allow us to go over that percent. So if we had like 400% then it would actually nerf us.
Ok i will try this, ty for the update
I'm a little confused with the synergy of this so sorry if this is a silly question but how can u run cast on shock ball lightening with mag salvo doesn't salvo destroy all your rods so there is none for ball lightening to pop when u shock and vice versa like would it be better to just run one over the other and not together
mag salvo is for the bosses when they are fully debuffed. i just did 70% dmg with it on chimera
Thx for the good work. Time to find some spirit.
Very well explained, great video.
Hi nice update to the build, im going with something similar and would have love to see your character stats to see how much int you need and ball lightning level. I'm struggling to meet high dex and good int, while still needing some str for the gems. Do you think that Cast on shock is more efficient than both herald of ice and herald of thunder for AoE and cleaning packs ?
so to run this setup your going to need around 120 int and 160 spirit, with this setup we do not run herald of ice so you should drop that for cast on shock. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one.
Thanks for this video, I had a question how high do ya level all the gems? do ya max em 20-21?
Yes if you can run max level gems then do it as that will give us more dps.
Im at lvl 45. Which build would you recommend to use at the moment? Your 1st lighting build or lighting with call of the brotherhood?
I would probably say the first one I put out. The cold version requires call of the brotherhood which is pricey. The first one I put out will allow you to get said currency to go into this build or the cold version. If you do run the first version I put out run lightning arrow to clear. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one.
What do you recommend for a ranger still grinding through act 3 cruel? I’m level 60 and lightning arrow isn’t doing it for me anymore I need to pivot
I would run lightning arrow/rods and magnetic salvo for boss dps.
Now imagine if this entire build were on Maxroll instead of mobalytics
is maxroll better?
@@SiahZ Yes, more detailed.
@SiahZ Yes, it gives you more resources to make the build. Also, it's MUCH better for those following your build, but like MUCH MUCH better.
Quick question - why use inspiration on cast on shock? the explanation when i hover over inspiration says it can't support skills that reserve spirit.
its for the ball lightning, not the cast on shock itself
I am a bit confused, i have a good bit of this already setup but i dont get anywhere near the amount of energy build up as you do for the ball lightning to cast some information would be so nice
so if you got all the same gems supports as I do it comes down to having a good bow. once you got a good damaging bow it will start to proc more.
Is there any viable support gems to slot in the last Magnetic salvo slot? I had already upgraded mine to a 6 socket before discovering this build. I will sell the gem if 5 is what's recommended.
6 will give you a lot more damage, so when it comes to what to run I would run I would try out ranged combat support. But I would just test support gems and see what give it more damage overall. But I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one. and I am gong to try to get a 6th link for magnetic salvo so I will give more info then if I can get my hands on one.
For the salvo do you need to go to long range for it to hit rod area ? or can u use ball of lightning instead if you are close ?
you can use it if you are close but we use a lot of passives that gives us more damage if we are farther away from them so that's why we get distance to get max damage.
Awesome work man. Can’t wait to get home and follow this build. I’ve seen some cast on shock builds and some magnetic salvo builds. Been debating which way I want to go. But this is the best of both worlds. What’s a good goal for my intelligence and dex? And how would you suggest reaching those points for both? I know I can use the enhancements to the quiver bonuses to help with either, but as far as the passives go, should I just alternate between dex/int?
so you are looking for around 212 dex and 115-120 INT, So I would get 2 INT rings and then grab int on the tree to meet that int and then the rest dex.
you get so many orbs it's insane! i changed to this spec but don't get nearly as many orbs. i'm still missing like 15-18 passive points though before i can reach your tree
what kind of jewels should we look for?
Crazy work❤
Hope you enjoy the build!
@SiahZ bro is so fun on my bow i have like % 160 physical dmg and having the time of my life, appriciate the build.
@@zirko4724 NP and I am glad your enjoying the build!
Why u need crit chance if gem on magnetic salvo guarantees a critical strike? Wouldn't it be better to make a build focused on raw damage and crit damage bonus something instead of crit chance? I don't understand what the purpose is, because the magnetic fubgun build doesn't use crit chance.
so the gem does not guarantee a crit, it give 100% increase crit chance meaning that if we have 10 percent chance it will only add around another 10% chance on that.
What is the minimum of crit chance for this build to take off?
I would say around 25% since when you factor in all the other increase we get we have around a 40% of hitting a crit.
@@SiahZ what is your crit chance at? Just curious what is possible with this build.
@@chadd.7816 right now without any of the bonus from shock and sniper/death from afar it's at 30% with everything added its sitting close to 50%
Why aren't you playing Cast on Crit when ur going for crit?
I will be having an updated version of the build drop soon that is way better when it comes to bossing and survivability with the same clear as this one. Plus like you said it will be using cast on crit now.
Hey, i wanted to ask if cast on shock is really all that important, i notice that it procs super rarely as most things die before u shock therefore u dont gain any charges, it feels like the dmg hasnt changed all that much with its addition. Perhaps the stats and points could be used for something else? Wanted to know your opinion
Also for the next guide could you please show off your detailed stats on some of the more important skills? Would be nice to see stuff like crit chance for comparison
Hey thanks again for taking time to answer my questions on stream. It helped a lot ^_^
NP zero and thanks for vibing out with me on stream :)
Pls what's better lighting dmg or physical
right now phys
Idk if it’s just my bow or what, but I’m level 30, into act 2, and I’m doing the whole lightning arrow lightning rod orb or storms all that stuff, my dps with lightning arrow is like 200, and I’m taking forever to kill anything not peon mob related
My monk buddy for example has skills that do 800dps
I have also average passive tree progression and I grabbed the one section increasing the elemental damages also and the one that does penetration as well
for leveling would you prefer dualstring bow over higher DPS bow or should i still stick with dual string?
if that bow is like 2x more dps then the dualstring then yeah otherwise no
@@SiahZ it's around 400 DPS gain
@@disarmundifan On tooltip?
@@SiahZ yes in lightning arrow tooltip, went from 1.1k to 1.5k dps
@@disarmundifan I would say just run the bigger dps bow for now and see how it feels without that extra projectile.
im struggling with MANA badly... what are you doing to have it full the whole time?
Mana Leech on Damage
@@ixScratchy weirdly I haven't seen that on any of his gear.
I am anointing siphon on the tree to help with that.
did they remove ball of lightning skill i cant find it anymore?
should still be there, try to look at the all gems tabs to find it.
Sorry, I'm new to this game, how do I do a triple shot? I saw there is a "Fork" support gem, but I didn't see it on yours, If someone could explain, I would appreciate it
Ascendancy node +1 arrow, dualstring bow +1 arrow, or use scattershot for +2 arrows but less dmg, atk speed price.
Hi! Love your content, thanks for that, man! Just one question, for now... Why not Stand and Deliver for enemies within 2m range? I am begginer and still learning but no matter what I do there are always some fast bastards that come close to me 😀
We’re not running that because our focus is on maximizing crit chance. By using Sniper and Death from Afar, we gain increased crit chance the farther we are from enemies. If we used Stand and Deliver, we’d lose that bonus, which is crucial for this build.
@@SiahZ sorry, my question was not clear... I meant to ask, why not run both? As long as Stand and Deliver doesn't cancel Death from Afar, using both is best from both worlds so to speak. Where ever enemies are bonus is counting. It is extra 3 points tho... Not sure if I am missing something. Thanks for fast answer btw!
@@enbard They both would work but obviously we would not get both at the same time. on top of that we are putting 3 more points into that area on the tree when we can be using them for more up time on different passives that would give us more damage.
I added the increase physical damage rune on the bow like you have but the dps on the skill stayed the same does it work?
what would you add for the 5L lightning arrow ?
I don't like freezing salvo and the escape, is it bad if i suppr them and replace voltaik mark with conductivity ?
I have not tested that out but you could just see how it works and if it doesn't work that well then swap back.
What
passive tree node are you running on your amulet?
Siphon
Could you please remind which venom choises you've made in act 3 and 3cruel? Cant find in video :(
in act 3 I picked the 30% increased Elemental Ailment Threshold. in cruel act 3 I picked the +10% to Chaos Resistance.
@@SiahZ ty man!
Why won’t it let me socket Inspiration into my cast on shock?
make sure you have ball lightning in there first then try it.
im lvl 44. should i stick to the pre patch "shreds" video for lvling. or should i start to make a change to this with my passives?
you need 150 spirit to run this with 120 int so I would stick with that until you get gear to swap into this version.
@@SiahZ i swapped my passives around only cost 10k.. lightning damage has gone wayy up.
Also, im stacking a lot more cold damage dont notice my herald of thunder doing anything. Maybe cuz my bow has cold dmg on it?? Any tips?
Weird that more people aren't subbed.
facts but we will get there over time. the support everyone has shown already is insane, can't wait to see where this goes!
If I don’t have any crit - should I go for this build or do shock/freeze build instead?
If you don't have any crit then running any of the mag builds are going to be rough as all of they require critting to do damage.
Hi, why i dont find the cast on shock spell? :O
should still be there, try to look at the all gems tabs to find it.
Can you level with this build? If not which would you recommend? Im in the chaotic difficulty now and want to breeze through it!
So if your are leveling I would just do the normal lightning rods and lightning arrow since this build needs 150 spirit to run all of our meta gems.
I didnt know the new electrocute passives were already live. Thanks for this! Idk if this helps or if it's better but I'm currently running my Electrocute Gem on my Herald of Thunder with Neural Overload, it still gives decent electrocute build up, lets your other skills electrocute and frees up a gem slot in Lightning Rod for Conc effect.
Huh I will have to look into this, thanks for letting me know!
What is the skill rotation for mobbing and bosses?
mark, rods into lightning arrow to get the shock then get the stun into freezing salvo then mag for huge damage for bossing. For mobbing just rods into lightning arrow.
We’re is your chose resistance
If you are talking about the venom rewards then I picked the ailment threshold 1st , then the last one go for +10 to chaos res.
what about the den of snakes reward?
1st ailment threshold, the last one go for +10 to chaos res.
@@SiahZ Darn it, went for mana regen 🤦♂️
nice bro, how you get that int for Cast on Shock?
Got INT on both rings and some on the tree.
What spirit gem should I take first?
Awesome build btw
I would say herald of thunder.
how do you have 2 balls of lightning coming out? i only pump one at a time
so ball will only shoot 1 no matter what. the reason you see so many at one time is because we are procing them over and over so fast.
Jonathan rogers here. Build note taken. 🧐
that moba link looks incomplete, missing gear and 6th link, bugged?
Going to put the gear in soon.
can i ask what the skill rotation is? thank you!
mark, rods into lightning arrow to get the shock then get the stun into freezing salvo then mag for huge damage for bossing. For mobbing just rods into lightning arrow.
why does my lightning orb never come out
@@Boogaisgood146 are you running the same gem supports as me on cast on shock and lightning arrow?
@@SiahZ yes i am maybe you can take a look at my build and ill pay you 5 exalted orbs if you fix it :D
@@SiahZ i dont have greater orb gems
How much spirit is required to play this build?
150
how does ur lightning arrow shoot 3 projectiles?
It's the dual string bow +1 inherent projectile, prolly a node on the tree for another projectile, or a passive for it on the gear.
+1 from our bow and +1 from our ascendancy.
why i slowly cast om shock ?
The big problem of mine is Spirit not drop from the act 1 king in tge mist now am the deadeye with no hearanld of thunder meh so sad GGG npt fix it yet
Not having to use the unique is a nice change. I think it's out of the reach of most players once the price increased
Yeah those prices went up crazy fast lol
@@SiahZ quick question: when do you think it's okay to switch to this tree from a traditional rod/arrow leveling build? I'm in act 2 cruel and have mag salvo but don't want to hurt myself changing my tree too early.
@@RobertS122surely you can now? i’m going into act 4 with most the stuff, obviously waiting on more support links and the higher lv supports + magnetic salvo though
@@RobertS122if you have the int and dex requirements you can do it. I'm finishing act 3 cruel rn and am still absolutely blasting with just lightning rod and arrow. I won't be switching anytime soon as my int isn't anywhere near 120 to run CoS.
@@RobertS122 I would not switch until you get at least 150 spirit and around 120 INT as we need both to run this build.
Having a hard time consistently getting shocks to proc no matter what
make sure you have the same gem setup as me and a good dps bow. If you got all of that it should be procing.
@ for sure, I’ve got some gearing to do. I also poured some GCP’s into COS which helps withe energy gain. I think I also need to level a bit too to get to your level of procing since the max skill level gems I have are 14. Nice guide, thanks again
Is this ok for level 24 build ?
For leveling I would just run lightning arrow/rods and when you can get it magnetic salvo for boss dps.
Must have
MAGNETIC SALVO
Super Crit
Inevitable Crit
Elemental Focus
Primal Armanent
LIGHTNING ROD
Acceleration
Scattered Shot
Heft
Electrocution support on rod
LIGHTNING ARROW
Lightning exposure
Lightning infusion
Conduction
Martial Tempo
Glad to see ice get nerfed, next up lightning, after that Fire, and after that everything
camera shake on?
The clips by sonarc do have shake on but I do not.
if u put electrocute on rod it remove shock ...its nonsence
🔥
You might be confusing Maim with Blind. 12:04 you say it reduces evasion rating and accuracy.
Also please start using correct terminology. When you are getting increased mana regen from Clarity, might as well use the correct term the game is using, which is Increased.
Else it just leads to newcoming build followers to also start using incorrect terminology.
When the game states a bonus providing more damage it's always a new multiplier in the equation. When it states increase its always additive to other mods that also state increase.
(Base + Flat) * ( Increase1 + Increase2 ) * ( More1 ) * ( More2 )
ok dork
@hamsuplow Hush, it's important for you as well, you just don't know it yet.
looks like fun... GGG will nerf it then.
tnx, i see now not need ring?
Ring not needed anymore
@@RobertS122 y its good
No gear shows up in the mobalytics build
That's actually good, if the gear was there it would contribute to prices skyrocketing again.
I think they still will, but maybe not as much.
I will be putting them on there soon
Im over this. Switched to the build. Cant do damage. Keep dying. Cant even complete my.first map, cant get orbs to drop to add more sockets to skills, idk im about to give up 😒
are you running all the same gem links?
@SiahZ yes, I just suck i guess 😂
@@Maalacharizard what's your bow and quiver looking like?
HONK 8:19
i went pathfinder am i fk'd?
How do you select that I’m confused
sadly yeah the damage we get from deadeye is to good to not have.