Oh yeah!! My card was noisy for three weeks already. I’ve seen your video. Bought the things I need. Now it’s completely away!! No noise!!! So grateful
I tried your method and it worked to quiet the squeal on my 2018 Tesla M3 before my scheduled service appointment. I just used the 0W-40 Mobil1 that I already have. Thanks for your video!
@Weldon Kuhn: Thanks so much! My May 2018 Model 3 just began making the ball joint squeaking and I found your video. Went to the local farm & ranch hardware store and bought the syringes for about $2 then followed your video advice. Yup, it worked. The bleed needle had water come out at first, so I continued to inject the full 12cc of oil to flush out as much water as I could. And you saved me a bunch of time, demonstrating that I didn't have to jack up the car and remove a wheel to get this done. Saved me a bunch of time and work. Thanks again! And enjoy your EV!
At 71171 miles my passenger side ball joint started squeeking, so I will inject it. Driver side still good since injecting 0W-20 at approx 57000. Regards, W
I like the fix you posted. I injected 10-30 mobile 1 about 8 cc and it worked! To seal the hole I made with the syringe I used a dab of liquid electrical tape after jacking up the car to expand the boot. Hope the liquid electrical tape will hold.
Genius fix! Tesla charged me and said they could not reproduce the squeaking… anyhow did it myself now using the exact same method shown here and it was instantly gone 🎉
Worked for my model x 17 as well. The sound took some kilometers to disappear after the injection but now is gone for good. Used a little bit too big needle and got a leak afterwards but used regular silicone to fix it. Works like a dream. Btw, quite awkward to go buy needles from local pharmacy... they were curious what i'm going to do with them 😅
@@basilray As stated in the video, I injected 0W-20 motor oil; drivers side at 57000 miles approximately and passenger side at 71171 miles approximately. No noise at 74488 miles. Regards, W
@@weldonkuhn9859 thanks! I opted to go with a grease instead. Will let it go for a day or two and then look to hit it with some silicone in hopes of keeping it sealed! Turned the wheels lock to lock, then drove half a mile. Driver side was nearly silent. Passenger had a little squeak so I hit it with a little more when I got back.
That's a little wierd that you added oil. If you ever see inside them there's a wierd white grease maybe lithium inside. I removed the compression ring on top of the ball joint with needle nose and a flathead. I pulled down the rubber and packed it with hi temp stp red grease. No need for a needle or any holes in your boot.
Worked great for to on a 2020 Tesla model 3. Tesla quoted me 3000$ to change the knuckles and the rear upper four arm. I put some silicon grease in the rear upper four arm and it instantly became like new. I then sealed the hole with 3m weather strip one week later and letting out the surplus.
Greetings, 69989 miles on 12Apr2022; no noise and no leak at either needle insertion location on the left (driver) side ball joint boot. Passenger side ball joint has never produced audible sounds, and was not relubricated. Has anyone noticed the scrunching noise on a right hand drive M3 driver's side ball joint? Best regards, W
Currently at 66403 miles - no relube since 57000 miles, and no noise. Also interesting that no noise ever occurred on opposite side, which was not relubed.
experience? I share the concern about poking holes in the boot, but the noise indicated insufficient original lubricant contacting the joint, so I took the risk.
I had in on driver side at 55k miles. Replaced by Tesla at my cost. They sealed the other side a few months later. Now the passenger side is squeaking badly at 89k miles. I am going to try this trick with grease, since available appointments are a few weeks out.
@@weldonkuhn9859 thanks a lot. First of all, I visited car service and in my case it was silentblock of lover arm. The sound was mostly like rubber’s scretching, not a metal. So, we just changed them and sound goes away.
Isnt it gonna leak?, and if it leaks onto the tire you might have an accident. Let me know if you see any leaking from these little holes as the end of the video wasnt looking too optimistic.
Just did this on my 2018 Model 3. Appears to have quieted down the squeak. Are both of yours still working good? I'm hoping this will last at least 6 months for service then I'll just have them replace it.
Hello Sir, Can you give us an update after filling up oil on your ball joint? Also was it leaking after filling it up after a long drive? Thanks in advance
Unless you can do this immediately after you start hearing the noise, replace the ball joint/upper control arm. If you've heard the noise off and on for a couple weeks or more it is too late and the joint/ control arm has weakened. That kind of stress making that kind of noise obviously the joint is screaming I'm about to fail.
I would not recommend motor oil as it is is not viscous enough to stay in the boot or stick to the ball. It will also settle if left sitting too long. Use grease so it adheres properly - as it is what its made for. You also don't want to start a tear by poking holes in the rubber. The video showed a tiny needle which iwas great as it will keep the boot protected, but penetrations only slow liquid ingress, but don't stop it
Originally injected at approx 57000 miles (LH) and 71171 miles (RH); currently 102299 miles with same ball joints, no more injections, and no recurring ball joint noise.
Noooo ... You want Mobil synthetic grease in there not water thin oil. Oops. There is already grease in that boot, it has just settled to the outside. See other videos where they disconnect the lower half of the joint and simply move move the end of the ball connection around a bunch to move the grease into the ball. I imagine just heating the boot with a hair dryer and then massaging the boot would also work to move the grease around in there. My car started creaking today with about 55,000 miles. I scheduled Tesla service under warrantee as mine is a certified used car from Tesla. You might get away with this if you put a drop of superglue on the needle holes before any oil came out as super glue adheres to rubber very well and would likely seal those holes if there was no oil in there.
I do not have this info; as I noted in the video my first noise occurred at approximately 57000 miles on the driver's side, so I was already past the 50k general warranty when I inijected. Currently at 84455 miles and still quiet; only 1 injection per side.
I spent almost $80,000 on my performance Model 3 and can't believe the control arms are doing this after 20,000 miles. There's no place to grease these? Unbelievable. Tesla service SUCKS too. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
Greetings: 1) I injected 0W-20 because my objective was to flood the entire ball joint surface, hence the use of injection needle plus vent needle to release any trapped air. #2 NLGI grease does not flow well and may not contact all surfaces. 2) 2Aug2024 status: 106999 miles with no squeaks and no additional injections since 57000 miles on the driver's side, and 71171 miles on the passenger side. How has the grease injection worked for you? Regards, W
This doesn't work - You have to change the suspension arm, preferably to a Meyle HD version, as it is better than original Tesla and often even cheaper.
Oh yeah!! My card was noisy for three weeks already. I’ve seen your video. Bought the things I need. Now it’s completely away!! No noise!!! So grateful
Super! Keep rolling.
I tried your method and it worked to quiet the squeal on my 2018 Tesla M3 before my scheduled service appointment. I just used the 0W-40 Mobil1 that I already have. Thanks for your video!
Super! Less likely to leak. Regards, W
@Weldon Kuhn: Thanks so much! My May 2018 Model 3 just began making the ball joint squeaking and I found your video. Went to the local farm & ranch hardware store and bought the syringes for about $2 then followed your video advice. Yup, it worked. The bleed needle had water come out at first, so I continued to inject the full 12cc of oil to flush out as much water as I could. And you saved me a bunch of time, demonstrating that I didn't have to jack up the car and remove a wheel to get this done. Saved me a bunch of time and work. Thanks again! And enjoy your EV!
Glad it worked! Water in the joint may indicate a crack in the boot.
Regards, W
What kind of oil did you get from the auto store ? Is there a specific oil or grease?
@@Thewokehomie I used Mobil 1 0-20W because I had some left over. Works well so far.
At 71171 miles my passenger side ball joint started squeeking, so I will inject it. Driver side still good since injecting 0W-20 at approx 57000.
Regards, W
I like the fix you posted. I injected 10-30 mobile 1 about 8 cc and it worked! To seal the hole I made with the syringe I used a dab of liquid electrical tape after jacking up the car to expand the boot. Hope the liquid electrical tape will hold.
Update on this? Thanks 🙏
@@InsaneGamingLegendz I recommend using silicon adhesive sealant, e.g. Permatex RTV
This worked immediately. Thank you so much for the post, that sound was killing me. (2019 model X p100d)
Glad to help, Regards, W
Genius fix! Tesla charged me and said they could not reproduce the squeaking… anyhow did it myself now using the exact same method shown here and it was instantly gone 🎉
How much did Tesla charge you for something they couldnt even tell?
Worked for my model x 17 as well. The sound took some kilometers to disappear after the injection but now is gone for good. Used a little bit too big needle and got a leak afterwards but used regular silicone to fix it. Works like a dream. Btw, quite awkward to go buy needles from local pharmacy... they were curious what i'm going to do with them 😅
Super!
Regards, W
Did you use motor oil, or an actual grease? My '16 X P90D just started creaking, but has no other ride issues.
@@basilray As stated in the video, I injected 0W-20 motor oil; drivers side at 57000 miles approximately and passenger side at 71171 miles approximately. No noise at 74488 miles. Regards, W
@@weldonkuhn9859 thanks!
I opted to go with a grease instead. Will let it go for a day or two and then look to hit it with some silicone in hopes of keeping it sealed!
Turned the wheels lock to lock, then drove half a mile. Driver side was nearly silent. Passenger had a little squeak so I hit it with a little more when I got back.
@@basilray Keep us updated, thanks.
if you want to keep the ball joint for longer then use silicon lube. Wont damage the rubber boot
Keep us informed of your progress.
you sir.. are a wizard. salute from miami
Long may you run,
Regards,
W
That's a little wierd that you added oil. If you ever see inside them there's a wierd white grease maybe lithium inside. I removed the compression ring on top of the ball joint with needle nose and a flathead. I pulled down the rubber and packed it with hi temp stp red grease. No need for a needle or any holes in your boot.
Greetings, 0W-20 is working since initial injections at 57000 miles (left) and 71171 miles (right). Current odometer = 91541 miles, no squeaks.
Did your fit work? Can you give an update? Thanks
Worked great for to on a 2020 Tesla model 3. Tesla quoted me 3000$ to change the knuckles and the rear upper four arm. I put some silicon grease in the rear upper four arm and it instantly became like new. I then sealed the hole with 3m weather strip one week later and letting out the surplus.
Greetings, 69989 miles on 12Apr2022; no noise and no leak at either needle insertion location on the left (driver) side ball joint boot. Passenger side ball joint has never produced audible sounds, and was not relubricated. Has anyone noticed the scrunching noise on a right hand drive M3 driver's side ball joint?
Best regards, W
yess this must be a common issue
Great trick 🔥 because tesla will replace the whole control arm which is about $300 plus labor.
Currently at 66403 miles - no relube since 57000 miles, and no noise. Also interesting that no noise ever occurred on opposite side, which was not relubed.
Thanks for the update, going through this now on my model 3.
@@Rob-im8bh I'm with you, my service appointment is next Tuesday ahhh the squeaking is killing me
experience? I share the concern about poking holes in the boot, but the noise indicated insufficient original lubricant contacting the joint, so I took the risk.
Has anyone disassembled a noisy M3 ball joint? Observations? Thanks!
Currently 62213 miles with no noise. Note that noise was on driver's side only; has this been other M3 owners
I had in on driver side at 55k miles. Replaced by Tesla at my cost. They sealed the other side a few months later. Now the passenger side is squeaking badly at 89k miles. I am going to try this trick with grease, since available appointments are a few weeks out.
Hi. Can you please tell me a little more about needle you used in video? I want to find the same in Ukraine. Thanks
Is it 19G for needle with syringe and 23G for without (right side)?
Greetings,
• oil inject needle - 1.01mm inside diameter, 1.68mm outside diameter,
• vent needle - 0.53mm inside diameter, 1.17mm outside diameter.
Regards, W
@@weldonkuhn9859 thanks a lot. First of all, I visited car service and in my case it was silentblock of lover arm. The sound was mostly like rubber’s scretching, not a metal. So, we just changed them and sound goes away.
You can test this easily by putting your full weight on the open door sill plate to move the suspension.
Why would you use motor oil and not ball joint grease?
Awesome video Weldon.
Asked a buddy of mine who know a foreman in Tesla. He said they use Wurth HHS2000. This is in Vancouver, Canada.
Is the vent required? I don't think the boot is fully sealed since the original lubricant came out.
I did not seal the syringe entry holes. At 108269, no noise. Regards, W
@@weldonkuhn9859 thanks for all the updates!
awesome thank you very much for sharing. do you have recommendations for the grease? was there any reason you used 0W-20 motor oil. thank you
Isnt it gonna leak?, and if it leaks onto the tire you might have an accident. Let me know if you see any leaking from these little holes as the end of the video wasnt looking too optimistic.
Both look dry and dusty at 80523 miles & no noise. Refer to comment from Bryan Stelling about the needle marks. Regards, W
Hmmm. I hope it works but I'd think the low viscosity would make it run out, as compared to injecting grease.
YOU SIR. ARE A GOD SEND.
Own the road silently......W
Just did this on my 2018 Model 3. Appears to have quieted down the squeak. Are both of yours still working good? I'm hoping this will last at least 6 months for service then I'll just have them replace it.
Still quiet at 79377 miles,
Regards,
W
It’s work! Thank you👍👍👍
You are welcome. Regards, W
Hello Sir, Can you give us an update after filling up oil on your ball joint? Also was it leaking after filling it up after a long drive? Thanks in advance
0:23 “on my upper”…… •reads script•
Unless you can do this immediately after you start hearing the noise, replace the ball joint/upper control arm. If you've heard the noise off and on for a couple weeks or more it is too late and the joint/ control arm has weakened. That kind of stress making that kind of noise obviously the joint is screaming I'm about to fail.
Why not inject bearing grease with a needle designed to work on a grease gun?
Injecting oil through the first needle with the second needle opposite for venting enables more complete fill.
Regards, W
Where do you buy the syringe??
I got mine at a farm supply store which carries veterinary supplies.
Regards, W
I would not recommend motor oil as it is is not viscous enough to stay in the boot or stick to the ball. It will also settle if left sitting too long. Use grease so it adheres properly - as it is what its made for. You also don't want to start a tear by poking holes in the rubber. The video showed a tiny needle which iwas great as it will keep the boot protected, but penetrations only slow liquid ingress, but don't stop it
Could you add Amazon links for the syringes you used to the description above?
I sourced them at a nearby farm supply store which carries veterinary supplies. Regards, W
Any updates Weldon on how long does this repair last?
Originally injected at approx 57000 miles (LH) and 71171 miles (RH); currently 102299 miles with same ball joints, no more injections, and no recurring ball joint noise.
so is it still good?
Would grease vs oil be any different?
Refer to comment from basilray below. Regards, W
Noooo ... You want Mobil synthetic grease in there not water thin oil. Oops. There is already grease in that boot, it has just settled to the outside. See other videos where they disconnect the lower half of the joint and simply move move the end of the ball connection around a bunch to move the grease into the ball. I imagine just heating the boot with a hair dryer and then massaging the boot would also work to move the grease around in there. My car started creaking today with about 55,000 miles. I scheduled Tesla service under warrantee as mine is a certified used car from Tesla. You might get away with this if you put a drop of superglue on the needle holes before any oil came out as super glue adheres to rubber very well and would likely seal those holes if there was no oil in there.
What kind of mobile synthetic grease can you recommend? Thanks
grease won’t go through the needle at that side. tried it and didn’t work. you owe me grease money
I tried astroglide and ended up using it.
@@alexoffduty4813 thank you for saving me grease money sticking to oil
would this void my warranty?
I do not have this info; as I noted in the video my first noise occurred at approximately 57000 miles on the driver's side, so I was already past the 50k general warranty when I inijected. Currently at 84455 miles and still quiet; only 1 injection per side.
I spent almost $80,000 on my performance Model 3 and can't believe the control arms are doing this after 20,000 miles. There's no place to grease these? Unbelievable. Tesla service SUCKS too. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
Tesla will replace the 2 control arms under warranty. It is a very common issue, and Tesla knows it.
@@jm-btt They charged me about a hundred for each control arm, but did the labor for free.
Why would you put oil in there man? Use grease from a grease gun with needle attachment.
Greetings:
1) I injected 0W-20 because my objective was to flood the entire ball joint surface, hence the use of injection needle plus vent needle to release any trapped air. #2 NLGI grease does not flow well and may not contact all surfaces.
2) 2Aug2024 status: 106999 miles with no squeaks and no additional injections since 57000 miles on the driver's side, and 71171 miles on the passenger side.
How has the grease injection worked for you?
Regards,
W
This doesn't work - You have to change the suspension arm, preferably to a Meyle HD version, as it is better than original Tesla and often even cheaper.
104464 miles - no noise since injecting.
Grease is better than oil ….
102622 miles and still quiet.
I nearly fell asleep between sentences….
Yes but he did not have a 20 minute introduction.