I will state its worth mentioning that Yuta fought the special grades with the intent to subdue, not to kill, which I think is extremely impressive. He never intended to kill them even as they were going all out, and he still won pretty strongly
they were not special grades. they ( Uro, Druv, Kuroushi, Ryo) were in a 4 way lock with a special grade cursed spirit. a CURSED SPIRIT. there is no way they are SG. but they were very very high grade 1’s. Grade 1’s aren’t just nanami’s and Todo’s they scar way higher as it just classifies ANYONE who isn’t a special grades so there is a high ceiling. Naobito was a grade 1 and much stronger than Nanami, and i think Ryu and Uro are just a bit stronger than the Zennin clan leader
@@oreki8707 I find from what I can tell yuta is a kind of person who because he was bullied has low self-esteem and as such places his friends above himself even if it's not true I know when It comes to his enemies he has learned to be quite cold and calculating. During the movie/zero he praises inumaki for his control and power in his cursed words but at the same time yuta just blew up like a wave of curses. I find it very possible that yuta under vules himself and that Maki is more fair in her assessment of his abilities.
@@oreki8707 People hype Hakari up for being even with Kashimo but according to what we've seen Kashimo himself looks to be on par (or a little stronger maybe) with Ryu and yuta defeated Ryu along with 3 other strong sorcerers. Also Kurourushi is also a bad matchup for Hakari due to his abilities.
I don't think Yuta was being humble. The man has confidence in killing Kenjaku so he clearly thinks highly of himself. His assessment for Hakari might just be even more situational than he's letting on(since Maki disagrees).
@@BrokenRoninimo yuta with fully manifested Rika is is relative to jp hakari who is stronger than base yuta with partially manifested Rika who is relative to base hakari
People seem to forget that hakari isn't actually unkillable in his domain. He can still get one shot lol or if they can't one shot him they can just evade him away if needed.
Not really lol he is still pretty strong like he technically is immortal if he has his domain yk how many times he almost died and revived himself he wouldn’t be stupid enough to get one shot
@@Hxhnrsxvr No he's not immortal. The text says in that fight with Kashimo that he usually doesn't use his re-spins (which refresh him) outside of probability boost because it lowers the odds of a jackpot.
In a fight to the death id say Yuta got it but I think Yuta and Hakari may have already fought in out in the past and Hakari won. In a situation where Yuta may have been sent to go retrieve Hakari, you know how they say it’s harder to capture someone than it is to kill them a lot of the time.
@@sandersGG Yuta being weaker at the time is irrelevant because Yuta compared his current (or well, pre Sendai) self to the Hakari he fought back then, and concludes that even after his year of training, copied CTs, high level RCT, Curses Tool Armory, Domain Expansion etc, that he’s still weaker than the Hakari from back then
People seem to misunderstand something, the first time yuta blocked granite blast he took little to no damage, it was only on the second try when he actually used his fist to try to blow the main source of the blast that it burnt his fist
@@suborgulag7289 a estas alturas Sukuna dice que Ryu como tal es lo más resistente que ha cortado. Y tiene lógica. Es un maldito tanque tanto para dar y recibir impactos. Lo único que podría dejarlo ko sería o su propia técnica o alguien más fuerte como sukuna o gojo.
Funny that i wanted to comment "Even with all of what he showed in Sendai colony, he just isnt that guy" and not that close to gojo as everyone agrees on him to be, but i digress as his potential is still unknown
There's one thing I've always been a bit confused about with Yuta. So without even bringing Rika into the picture, he already has insane reserves of CE, right? When he showed up to Yuji, Choso & Naoya, Yuji commented on how he felt like Gojo but creepier, and then Yuta commented on how he has more CE than Gojo. Is that in Base?? And then, when "Rika" is unleashed, he has a second wind -- _another_ stack of near infinite CE from the cursed spirit?
Lmao yes I guess I did answer myself, I thought there was something I was missing. Initially I thought the only time Yuta had unlimited CE was when Rika was out. idk, I'm slow LMAO I'll rely on this comment from now on 😂
yes, yuta in base already have massive CE reserve, its just that in the sendai fight he constantly use RCT to heal from tanking granite blast, attack that could one shot anybody in CG. he also use RCT as an output to kill kuro. all of that takes a lot out of him
Here’s my theory on yuta and hakari based off data gathered from the anime,manga and jjk 0 movie. Yuta and hakari both don’t know what their current selves are capable of. What we are currently aware of is that the last time yuta and hakari made contact was in yutas first year( jjk 0) as maki stated though during the sister exchange event yuta was put into the squad because “ the numbers didn’t add up” this group was inclusive of first and second years as we know that’s how the sister exchange even works (with the exception of megumi and nobara entering because the third years were suspended). Maki specifically stated that yuta was in the sister exchange event prior to rikas release, from what we know yuta only fully manifested rika twice at jujutsu tech( at the school with maki) and (against geto) apart from that yuta wasn’t allowed to release her or he would be executed. Towards the end of the film yuta left the school to go abroad and hasn’t been in contact with anyone apart from gojo ever since this is backed up by the fact that when yuta met maki during the culling game he said “long time no see” meaning the only people that are aware of how strong current yuta is are Miguel and gojo. No one knows how strong hakari is either apart from Kiarara as he/she was the only one in contact with him. This brings me to my final statement, the last time everyone saw yuta he lacked experience, didn’t have a domain expansion and didn’t have full control of rika. Am example of this is the fact that kenjaku still thinks rika relies on his loved ones (rika) for power. So yeah that’s it no one knows the current power level of yuta or hakari and neither do the know themselves as the last time the met was a year ago in which both of them have obviously significantly improved. This is backed up with things said from the manga,anime and movie that’s why I used quotes to show specific things said in the series or manga.
Yuta has only being a jujutsu sorcerer for 2 years guys he isn't even yet enlightened etc.if gojo who was surely training since his childhood,had to be enlightened with some years of training to be so busted.imagine yuta in the next 5 years🥶🥶
yuta has already been stated to have started approaching his limit, also he had his enlightened moment when he fought geto and made a binding vow with rika.
@@mikeyjr3930 Where is this stated? Yuta in theory doesn't have a limit. He can continue collecting more and more cursed techniques to expand his arsenal
10:20 Hakari isn’t mentioned because Gege specifically notes in the character poll under Hakari’s segment that Hakari is Jujutsu High’s **Secret Weapon** that’s even more powerful than Yuta And as we seen with Kenjaku and Yuki, not having info and intel on someone makes a big difference. That’s on top of Gojo not knowing whether Hakari would even get himself involved with Kenjaku. Keep in mind, Gojo probably hasn’t seen Hakari for a year and had no idea that Yuji and Megumi would go convince him to help. Meanwhile he knows Yuta is the type that would
Bro tf U mean gojo literally mentions yuta and not hakari when he had already mentioned hakari before as he literally states him and yuta to be able to rival him someday so he definately knows his potential and how strong he is and like wth whatever u said make zero sense gojo didnt state yuta because he was the most clearest or available option he picked him because he thought of him strong enough to beat kenjaku cause yuta already beated geto so gojo probably thought kenjaku is as powerful as geto so he stated yuta but the point is Gojo could have literally said hakari's name too but he didnt and there's no reason for him to do it and whatever ur saying about not seeing hakari in a year or yuji and all wouldnt have gone to him is pure bs Gojo means somebody who will be able to defeat kenjaku and he names yuta not hakari thats the main point cause like what hakari would never face kenjaku? Ofcouse he would but he still names yuta
TL;DW: Yuta Scales to a weakened Sukuna that could still likely beat Kashimo with relative ease. Hakari scales to Kashimo, who scales below a weakened Sukuna.Yuta has his domain expansion, a plethora of cursed techniques he's stored, Rika, much more. He can easily wait out the 4 minutes 11 seconds and kill Hakari.
maki is an extension of the author who knows everything about yuta lmao he clearly intended to point out yuta was being humble or else he wouldn’t have maki make that statement *AFTER* the yuta statment
In base Yuta vs Hakari isn’t that close imo. Yuta swapped hands with Ishigori and Yuji. Granted Yuji was holding back somewhat because of his mental state, Yuta was also holding back because he was trying to make it a clean death and instead of hack and slash him. Not to mention RCT. Hakari fought charles, whom of which we don’t know how strong he was in order to scale him. He also fought Yuji but keep in mind that Yuji was more so trying to convince him, not necessarily win. So all he did was not fight back and tank his attacks
Bro that doesn’t mean shit yuji was getting his ass beat he literally said hakari hits feels like a bat with spikes or summ like that hakari in base is way stronger than yuji as we seen in the manga😂
Yugi was still taking damage from hakari attacks and hakari didn’t really need gis domain vs charles that fight was completely one sided from the start
@@trezze.r671 Yuji literally says he won't fight back. It's impossible to tell if Base Hakari or Yuji is stronger. Yuji also tanks 4 hits straight to the face. Even Hakari is shocked Yuji is standing and still ok.
@@k1ceps183 Yuji headbutts Hakari->90% of their fight goes offscreen->Yuji gets knocked through a door and saying he won't fight back->Tanks another 3 hits to the face.
Theres a reason Gojo left the care of first and second years to Yuta. There’s a reason why Todo wanted Yuta at Goodwill. There’s a reason why Yuji thought Yuta, if he ever switched again, would kill him. There’s a reason why Yuta is hyped up narratively to fight Kenjaku, and Hakari isn’t. He’s second to Gojo, and for good reason. The winner, is Yuta Okkotsu.
I dont know if he can surpass Rikka's defense if Yuta decides to play defensive, like he got the best RCT in the series, this is cannon, which means he got unmatchable defense, he got chosen against Uraume for a reason, but bro lowkey got no offense whatsoever, his only attack his edged CE, and Yuji just said its like getting hit with a baseball bat with nails, Yuta uses an actual sword and giant beam blasters, and has defensive CTs, how is bro getting past that 😭 like legit, the only way Hakari wins is if he manages to stall Yuta out and the Rikka timer runs out
Really fantastic video! It had great points and pacing. The only thing that I will add is something that I really think is not talked about nearly enough in this debate... and thats hakaris burnout. Once Hakari enters JP, he cannot recast his domain expansion until his timer runs out. Therefore If Yuta just waits for Hakari to hit his JP then launches his own domain its gg. Regardless of what Yutas DE even does, it should not matter. (For arguments sake lets pretend that Hakari in JP is stronger than Yuta and Yutas DE does not have a sure hit or sure kill, it only provides the status amp). Even if you believe Hakari is >= Yuta, Yuta and Rika in his domain would recieve the power increase that DE passively provide. That same power increase took Megumi, (a character who was getting blitzed by a finger bearer), to being able to scrap and trade blow for blow with that same FB. All in all, you hit all of the main points and I think did it extremely well, just wanted to add a little more!
Yuta's just super humble. He knows he strong, but he's willing to acknowledge others powers and the strengths they have. Even if there not physically strknger than him.
lol.... how do you know the mindset of a character. Sure he is humble but when he states another is stronger than him, its taken with a grain of salt. How???? I say yuta truly ecknowleges hakari stronger than him
@@DragonStar524we've seen in the culling game that he isn't humble He called himself blessed Said he would kill kenjaku himself Would get 400 points himself Brother ain't humble
I think people sleep on Yuta. We hype up Kashimo because his technique hasn’t been revealed yet. We have no idea what Yuta’s domain expansion is. It would be a game changer
Nope, we hype up kashimo bc he said can fight FP SUKUNA with that . And 15f sukuna already NO diff Ryu who give yuta trouble so Yuta already lost the hype. At least for me.
@@0kkotsu90 bro I'm coming back to this vid after everything with Yuta's domain and etc to look at this discussion after the whole 'Hakari femboy enjoyer thing' started, and seeing the amount of people saying Hakari is stronger than Yuta because he fought on ""equal grounds"" with Kashimo who is 'just about as strong as Heian Sukuna' is lowkey... *sad* actually, Kashimo was so wasted bro I hope Mappa fixes it
i love hakari but from what i’ve seen a lot of people over hype him in terms of strength yes he’s a definite grade 1 but i don’t think he’s anywhere near special grade in his normal form i mean look at how kashimo just absolutely dog washed him and after he goes into jackpot as long as you can avoid his attacks and wait for his time to end or cast your own domain you’ll basically win and especially him fighting an actual special grade yeah hakari is getting beat
yea people greatly overrate hakari's strength, he's cool and jackpot is powerful but he isn't even close to a special grade level imo. I mean just looking more closely at his fight with Kashimo he still nearly lost against him even with multiple jackpots, like he had to force him to deplete all his CE in order to actually win, I think fundamentally Hakari's limitation is a lack of the level of AP that people like Yuta, Gojo, Geto and Yuki all show
I agree that all Yuta has to do is catch Hakari in that window of time where he is not immortal. However, I also wonder if Yuta and hakari had fought seriously one time which is why he made that comment. JJK has shown that even if you got hacks like Gojo, having no hands can get you laid out lmao. Also who does the illustration for your thumbnails I really like the style
There is another thing as well. Yuta could potentially open his domain while Hakari is in JP since he can't open his domain in JP. Then Hakari will have to deal with full power Yuta and Rika + domain buff + sure hit because we haven't seen Hakari use a domain counter yet. Either he'll get his head crushed in the domain or kill him with his guaranteed hit or Rika right when it ends
domain sure hits get nullified by another domain expansion so thats out of the question given hakaris domain has more like switching places so who knows there could be more, and crushing a head of a person with infinite cursed energy is prolly not as easy as you make it sound. Also both kashimo and hakari didnt use any cursed techniques except idle death gambler surely hakari didnt spend jujutsu tech without learning anything but his domain. ALSO kashimo is the most cracked individual with crazier attack output than hakari but that doesnt mean hakaris AP is not impressive
@Scuffed Pixel 1. Hakari can't activate his domain in JP, so he would be uncontested vs Yuta's domain 2. Hakari's CT is burned out after his domain ends, just like everyone else, but he's in JP so it doesn't matter 3. I didn't intend to make it sound easy, Yuta would be using his absolute maximum power, domain + Rika + his sure hit + himself. I think he would overwhelm JP Hakari 4. I'll wait for another Hakari fight to determine his AP tbh because it's too questionable
(I think that) obviously hakari relies mainly on his domain to be able to possibly beat yuta but we've never seen yuta's domain and since yutas CE is higher than hakaris im pretty sure his domain can overthrow hakari's (correct me if im wrong) and in that case, hakari will definitely lose without his domain
Domain tug of wars are more based on DE refinement than how much CE is poured into them, as far as we know. Like, Gojo doesn't use much CE to make his DE - quite the opposite, in fact, as he does it SO efficiently he can even open more than once a day - but his DE is so refined, because of the Six Eyes, that he'd win a domain battle against anyone that doesn't have a domain with an open barrier (just because we don't know how this interaction would go), even if the opponent is using way more CE than he is. So we don't know. We know Hakari's domain is insanely well built, and we know that the fact that his technique activation is harmless also helps him during DE tug of wars (I'll source it in the end of the comment). But we don't know how refined Yuta's domain is. If I had to bet, I'd say Hakari's domain wins, based off what we saw him do. Not only is his domain incredibly specific and stupidly powerful, he has the fastest domain activation of all the cast (even faster than Gojo's and Mahito's 0.2s DEs), has a binding vow that makes it stronger against other domains and we know he can even move the barrier while inside the domain. Source for my claim about Hakari's domain having advantage on tug of wars: twitter.com/Lightning446/status/1577415959756709888?s=20
@@MultiWar22 Gojo is exceptional We don't know how much cursed energy is to be poured naturally into his domain but it's said enough to burn out his brain if he uses it Multiple times a day He has six eyes so he can just use much less energy and the outcome would still have the same strenght Take some other example
See my breakdown of the fight Both full power(Jackpot Hakari, Okkotsu with Rika) Strength-Hakari Speed-Hakari Durability-Yuta Endurance-Yuta Versatility-Okkotsu IQ-Okkotsu BIQ-Equal, if not equal then Hakari Cursed Energy-Okkotsu Cursed Energy Control-Okkotsu Cursed Technique-Okkotsu Domain Expansion-Can't Say bcos we haven't seen Okkotsu's Domain Keep in mind that every category someone wins doesn't mean they completely stomp, someone can still have an advantage but it can be a close one. These two are extremely relative but I feel Okkotsu wins
I 100% agree. I can’t see jackpot Hakari forcing Yuta to use Rika RIGHT AWAY. Yuta only used Rika after getting hit with multiple big attacks that forced him to use RCT multiple times. These attacks are all stronger and more deadly than a regular curse energy enhanced punch that even jackpot Hakari would be using. Base Yuta even if Hakari in jackpot has the upper hand has no reason to go all out right away and it’s not in character. I don’t see JP Hakari who has less attack potency than Ryu forcing Yuta to use RCT with some punches and kicks when Ryu couldn’t do it and kashimo never had to heal from those attacks.
In order for Hakari fans to justify their claim, they scale him above Ryu, though narration tells us Ryu literally has the highest output, thus hitting harder.
@@timpa701 Kashimo doesn't care for someone on his level, he's more excited of someone who's stated to be stronger than him. Plus Ryu was far away, Kashimo wasn't going to travel. To add, Kenjaku wouldn't propose someone to lose against him, but to give him a run for his money. He believes that Ryu would. Both Kashimo & Kenjaku don't know if he would be a match, loss, or victor against Ryu. Lastly, Ryu dealt with Sukuna's Cleave & Dismantle. Kashimo is dealing with a different Sukuna and a weaker one at that, since he didn't/couldn't use his CT, and just fought Gojo so his output is lower than usual. We have no way of clearly seeing who's stronger between Ryu & Kashimo.
@@kharirichardseh, yes base kashimo vs Ryu is debatable, Kashimo with CT stomps Ryu. Also, I agree with the reasoning why Kashimo wasn't interested in Ryu. Kashimo was old af atp potentially going up against Ryu in his prime, why would Kashimo do that if he can just be reincarnated to be at his peak fighting the strongest sorcerer that is Sukuna? And, for the 15f Sukuna blitzing Ryu, tha was probably a day after Ryu fought Yuta and I doubt he has RCT so the fact he was worn out when he fought Sukuna isn't a fair argument.
Yuta>Hakari because Yuta is OP but something that a lot of people seem to not remember about Hakari and something that's rarely talked about is the nature of his cursed energy itself. In his first encounter with Yuji, Hakari is able to inflict a massive amount of damage against Yuji thanks to his cursed energy being akin to being hit with a bat covered in barbed wire. That's just base Hakari, people tend to not understand that unless you're someone like Kashimo who's cursed energy is akin to lighting your stamina is going to be depleted pretty quickly. So when Yuta says Hakari is stronger than him, he's well aware that he can lose in blow for blow competition thanks to the physical exhaustion.
I mean I didn't see how Hakari could win in the first place. Yuta doesn't even have to call in a homie to jump you, he's a solo jumper. Yuji just be pulling up with anybody just to jump someone, I bet the final chapter is just gonna be Yuta and Yuji jumping someone because that's the next team up to happen and it'll be a three way jumping
Yea I agree Hakari just doesn't have the AP to beat someone like Yuta, he only even won against Kashimo bc he was weak to water (due to the special property of his CE) if Kashimo didn't have that huge weakness I'm almost certain Hakari would've lost eventually once he slipped up at all
Hakari had another guaranteed Jackpot that had a 75% chance of leading to another guaranteed Jackpot while Kashimo tried practically everything that he had to kill Hakari and failed He would’ve to deal with him for more 8 minutes while not having a single thing to finish him. Kashimo’s last hope was poison (that failed) and a huge explosion (that failed)
@@guilha1506 huge explosion only failed due to the water weakness which by that time Kashimo figured out that if he stops him from making the hand signs that opens his DE, then no immortality. This guy’s point is that, if not for the water weakness, Kashimo would’ve wrapped up the fight then and there. If they ran it back, Kashimo would win
@@samuraitadpole5459 Hakari is smart but not enough to stop him from getting his hand blown off after jackpot wears off, as Kashimo demonstrated. Kashimo pretty much figured it out in the end
I think Hakari can beat Yuta, but when you add Rika, then jackpot Hakari is on equal/lower footing than the two combined, so that's more of if you think that hakari can survive for those 5 minutes
I tried showing some people with panels that parallel each other. How they both destroy the ground with a punch, how both Ryu and Kashimo are bored from the past, but excited to fight them, how they both heal multiple times. and how they both talked to their opponents after the fight.
Hakari only chance is domain expansion. The thing is, yuta wins a domain battle because he has more cursed energy to counter the domain with his own in addition to many Weapons. All hakari gets from domain jackpots is more cursed energy as a resource. That only temporarily puts him at yuta level. Yuta also has Rita . . . Hakari will need alot of luck to win
I don't think there's enough information to rank either of these characters properly yet. Unlike someone we already saw the entire potential, both Yuta and Hakari still have mysteries surrounding their potential. Yuta hasn't fought all out with his power and proper training yet, we don't know the conditions for his technique activation (copying something), we don't exactly know Rika's limitations outside their "together" mode or its cooldown. For example, does Yuuta need to call Rika fully before he can acess the CT storage? How much of a technique can Yuta copy? Can he use stolen domains? Can he improve the technique himself? As for Hakari, his entire skill being based on "luck" makes him have the most absurd, overpowered plot armor ever. He will win and evade death as long as his "luck" doesn't run out. That is, unless it's all a con. Hakari's CE is reffered to as "coarse like sandpaper" his demeanor and behavior during his fights really gives you the idea that he is a "Shark" (Shark skin is coarse like sandpaper), meaning in gambling that he uses psychological manipulation and even cheats to lure his opponents into seemingly advantageous high-risk gambles and then takes reaps the reward away from them. If this is correct, then Hakari doesn't have or need luck, what Hakari has is the ability to fake out his power as to not scare opponents away too much and give them a false confidence about their odds of winning and his odds of hitting a jackpot. Did I mention that his CT is called "Performance"? That is exactly what a Shark does. And if his CT can naturally create characters and objetcs inside their own contained circumstances then it is't far fetched to assume Hakari can cheat a jackpot by altering the result of a roll when he needs to. Moreover, if this theory is correct then Hajime's almost succesful attemps at oneshoting Hakari could have been just a performance on his part to lure Hajime into the game and keep him gambling. After all one can't gamble by himself. Naturally, if all of these are correct, his entire strategy possesses a great weakness: If his opponents won't take his baits and keep a level head, or if they catch him cheating his rolls, he might lose his DE and be forced to wait until his CT is reestablished or maybe he will get punished for cheating and have his CE completely removed for a duration similar to his bonus. Either way, Hakari's ability makes him extremly unpredictable as a character.
this is the first time ive disagreed with broken ronin (not based on whose stronger i havent finished the video yet) but you said that gojo thought about yuta in his last moments before being sealed instead of hakari and i believe that is because relying on hakari at the time was a risky move as he was unpredictable and had a slim chance of even being recruited in the rescue mission of gojo where on the other hand yuta was reliable and willing to fight at any time
@@kharirichards Hakari is a wild card in the Sorcerer's world, He allies with no one and only does what he wants to do. It's implied that Gojo and JJK high themselves have not contacted Hakari hence why Gojo suspected he wouldn't help during his save mission
@@King_of_kings07 1. A wild card in the Jujutsu world is a Special Grade Sorcerer or Spirit. Hakari is neither. 2. He actually does ally with others, the other 3rd year, and now Jujutsu High. 3. What chapter did Gojo suspect Hakari wouldn't help?
@@kharirichards 1. What I meant by Wild card is by the literal TV trope of Wild card, and uncontrollable force that's usually an undetermined factor when it comes to plans, Kinda like the Luffy from one piece type of character, you'd never know if he's partying or overthrowing a kingdom, a Wildcard. 2. He got suspended from Jujutsu High, and for a while he had his own fight club/casino, where he operates outside the main Sorcerer's world, meaning at one point he allied with no one, since when I did state all this, I was talking about him before the culling games. 3. I don't think there's a specific one that I can think of, but considering Gojo only thinks of Yuta when he's getting sealed and when he was shock to see Hakari when he's freed, suggest that he did not have any expectation for Hakari to join the quest to free him.
You should also include the narrator then, since they said Yuta is second only to Gojo. Even if Hakari was actually stronger, the last time Yuta saw him was before he left to Africa and before he gained new CT from the Culling Games. He is undoubtedly far stronger now than the last time he would've seen Hakari in action
The only problem with the strategy of breaking Hakari's domain from the outside is its activation time, Hakari's domain has been stated to be the fastest activating one, so unless Hakari forbids her entrance, I dont think she can speed out, she's getting caught too.
@@Annihilation_Studios while Shikigami's usually do have a limit on how far they can go and how long they can stay out, Rika doesnt has one. She can go as far as she wants a pretty much act as an independent being (in JJK0 it truly was the case, since she was a cursed spirit, she truly was a separated individual that just choose to stay by Yuta's side but could go on her own anytime, after JJK0 Rika's a Shikigami, but it doesnt seem to hindrance her independent action capacity), we dont know if its because of Yuta's monstrous CE that just gives her that much range or if its part of a Binding Vow that grants Rika freedom, but yes she be put outside domains. They dont do that because it makes Yuta defenseless The only case where that strategy would be good is in non-lethal domains, like Hakari's or Higuruma's, and since Hakari's domain activates too fast for her to escape I think Higuruma's would be the only one in which that'd be a viable option, Yuta would just have to wait until she breaks the domain from outside with a CE blast of something.
@@ZEESHANKHAN-wp5vlIt's still possible it's just that Hakari not having the kill effect means he can still use his domain ability even while in domain tug of war
no one ever talks about the fact hakari has his own cursed technique that isnt just punch and kick like his shutter doors and the balls not that he'd win but still
A bit off topic but I would love to see a video on how u think the order in the sakamoto days can match up with the hasiras in demon slayer. I think it will be close
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THANK YOU! but...If people STILL think Hikari wins, no shame on them, the author made 2 characters say different things on purpose in order for people can go either way, but Yuta does have the better arguments
I don’t think people who still believe in Hakari deserve no shame. We should absolutely shame people for not using critical thinking and ALL of the facts presented to make an accurate assessment. Most people picking Hakari in these comments are blatantly ignoring facts and specifically choosing ones that benefit their argument while making up headcanon to justify their ignorance.
I'm just gonna say , we saw what Sukuna did to Ryu who pushed Yuta , we're gonna see how Kashimo fares against Sukuna and I bet that's gonna really upscale Hakari , we haven't seen all his arsenal yet If Yuta himself who knows his limits said this I don't see how what Maki says hold any weight
Sukuna doing what he did to Ryu easily makes him the second most durable character right after mahoraga. This is the same Ryu Yuta beat after having a series of fights: Him vs. Dhruv (no rika), Him vs. Kurouroushi (no Rika), then an battle Royale directly after.
1) This Sukuna has Megumi’s technique it’s already an unbalanced comparison. 2) Kashimo never used his CT, but plans to use it on Sukuna, so that further skews the comparison. In short: Nothing you said matters here.
Its controversial because people like hakari and are in denial that he loses to yuta. Its the same thing you see with yuji fans thinking he wins any fight cause he punches hard only difference is hakari has infinite healing for 4mins if lucks on his side. Yea its a good technique its just not enough for higher tier characters like yuta. like honestly he was lucky to even beat kashimo.
Yuta with the killing intend will be scary, yuta rightnow can use space manipulation that he got from that savage chick, mimicry is op tho not even talking about his de and his ultimate 5 minutes unlimited chakra 😅, one blast to hakari head will end the battle even if he in his jackpot
I understand that a lot of JJK's power scaling lore(?) comes from statements, but I really feel like people give a little too much credence to statements in order to power scale. Gojo saying "I would beat Sukuna" does not actually mean that he actually would. Same goes for Sukuna saying "I'll kill Gojo." It's different if it's the narration stating something, as that is the author's interjection on the topic. But an in universe character making statements cannot be taken at 100% face value (Most of the time). So Yuta saying Hakari is stronger than him when he's on a role, only for Maki to refute what Yuta said, can only be interpreted as "Hakari is really strong" and nothing more. Especially given the fact that Yuta has a tendency to undersell himself. That's just my opinion ofc.
Exactly. There are many statement like this we can't believe. Like jogo saying he can beat gojo. Gojo saying he will defeat sukuna with little difficult. Yuji saying yuta can beat 15f sukuna. All that statement just show they are relative in power.
@@shepardice3775o my guy that’s a false translation. He’s second to Gojo in “unusual abilities” nothing else. Also he’s not even second. I’d argue Yuki is above him. Maki also just recently flat out stated that nobody was beating Kenjaku through conventional means. I do not see Yuta beating Kenjaku especially. Not from what we’ve seen
@@BeastBoy557what false it literally says that yuta is the second strongest in modern sorcery. Translated by viz and backed by TCB scan. Stop the cap with an unusual abilities 😂
I would give base yuta the win if it’s a fight between both of them in base form it wouldn’t be completely one sided but yuta having more cursed energy and tools gives him the advantage plus I give durability to yuta as we have seen even sukuna complimented ishigoris durability and yuta was able to damage him sand with rika. Then when it comes to full power its quite close but the fact that we haven’t seen yutas domain expansion makes it hard to rank this because yutas domain might be a guaranteed win domain like gojos and mahitos, if yuta was to fight hakari during his jackpot he could use cursed speech to stop hakari and decapitate him or he wait till hakaris domain ends as hakari has to go through the game before he hits a jackpot he will have a few seconds of him being in base form. If yuta and rika were to bombard him with attacks both going all out not even base hakari could survive that.
@@gaelurquiz5755 what do you mean rika is her own fighter? Bro do you even read the manga? For yuta to fight at his full potential he needs rika to be unleashed so he can use his cursed technique plus she acts as a shikigami. It’s like telling someone to fight without there curses technique or telling megumi to fight without his shadows or telling yuki to fight without her shikigami, it makes no sense. Cursed speech can be countered yes but it’s not like he will know yuta is about to use it I mean even uro wasn’t able to cover in time so yeah your the only one wrong here.
Hakari solos and no one can change my mind, that guy can go legit immortal and even survied one shot attacks, Hakari no difs and ill never stop being a Hakari fan boy
I feel like Yuta doesn't consider himself and Rika as one fighter and therefore in his statement he meant that Hakari would beat him, but this is only when he wouldn't use Rika, and as Yuji has shown people view Rika as more of a cursed tool, or shikigami rather than a entity separate to Yuta, which is why Maki would say no against Yutas statement, because she is counting Rika and Yuta whole Yuta is just taking himself into account
@@Atlas9766 I think Rika being Yuta's technique was another translation error and that it's actually just a gift from the real Rika when she stopped being a cursed spirit. That Yuta's true technique is copying and Rika is only as explained by a hard drive where Yuta keeps the cursed techniques that he has copied until now (because now we know about the Kenjaku vs Yuki fight, you can't have many techniques at the same time because If not, your brain suffers the consequences and this is how Yuta avoids that problem)
@4l4n51lva that doesn't change my statement or the statement I was commenting on tho, saying Yuta wasn't including Rika when he was talking about Hakari is just plain stupid Like me saying "ur a better driver than me, but that only if I don't use my hands"
People tend to think Hakari is stronger due to Yutas own words, which imo should be taken with a grain of salt since right after said statement Maki after said no. It’s also been stated time and time again, he’s second ONLY to Gojo. While everyone else gets stated to be on Gojos level one day. Hakari on a jackpot role would be a huge issue, however Yuta has too many haxs that Hakari would loose due to attrition.
The official translation is second to gojo in unusual abilities. So you wanna take makis word over yuta??there would be no need for him to lie about that
Why the fuck would maki even matter? She could be down playing hakari or just d riding yuta for all we know. We dont know if she even has seen them fight at full power before. So she's not a valid source of knowledge. Meanwhile, yuta, who knows how strong he is and obv how strong hakari is says that hakari is stronger than him on a roll. Also, yuta has had more page/screen time than hakari, so that doesn't matter
Ppl conveniently ignore how Hakari’s jackpot is based entirely around his domain. Kashimo had no domain during the fight bc he didn’t use his CT but Yuta won’t have that restriction. Hakari has no chance in a domain battle with Yuta and once he’s in Yuta’s domain it’s over.
in case you havent heard, hakari is extremely difficult to win against in a domain battle due to the sure hit effect not being lethal, causing him to use his domain faster than 0.2 seconds. (for some reason, viz removed this in the official translation)
just bc Hakari can expand his domain faster doesn’t it’s stronger or more refined. Yuta can still expand his own domain even if he’s inside Hakari’s. We’ve seen both Gojo and Megumi expand domains inside someone else’s. No reason to think Yuta can’t do the same
@@kampa8949 like i said, it's extremely difficult to win against a domain with a non-lethal effect, no matter how strong or refined one's domain is. if it wasn't, kashimo could've easily just put up his own domain in his fight with hakari.
@@spacezeppeli7358hat’s literally just false. There’s nothing in the story talking about non lethal domains being stronger. Kashimo didn’t use his domain because domains are an extension of one’s CT, but Kashimo didn’t use his CT against Hakari, therefore he couldn’t use his domain.
THANK YOU. Someone tried arguing with me that hakari wants a long drawn out fight, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what he needs. The longer the fight goes on, the more back to back jackpots he has to hit. Idk how some people can see kashimo say that the smart plan is to stall hakari out, and then go "hakari wants to draw the fight out" 😂
@@nasteay7497 Same statement is said in 3 extra external sources, gonna say that Maki is above official omniscient material? Maki is also biased towards Yuta, hates Hakari, heavily considers the grading system and wasn’t even strong at that time to properly powerscale Also, who do you think that knows more about Yuta’s powers, Yuta or Maki?
@@guilha1506 yuta is a humble guy. If u ask him who would win between him and Maki. He would also claim that Maki would win. That's how humble he is. That's why Maki's statement is more reliable.
hakari>yuta if he gets jackpot, maki is a useless person to takes statement, she literally has no CE and assuming shes never fought either at full power her statement does not matter at all.
Yuta + Rika > Jackpot Hakari > Base Yuta > Base Hakari This isnt a really big debate. Since in the manga its already stated that Yuta is 2nd only to Gojo. But dont get the wrong idea HAKARI is an extremely powerful sorcerer his reaction speed is faster than lightning as we saw in his fight with kashimo. But overall the winner is Yuta at an Extreme - Insane Diff. Since manga has already stated that Yuta is 2nd only to strongest. Now there is ofcourse Yuta's statement that Hakari is stronger than him when he is in a jackpot but this means that Jackpot Hakari is stronger than Base Yuta.And Maki saying thats not true means with Rika Yuta is Stronger than Jackpot Hakari. And Fully Manifested Rika is stated to be the Queen of Curses. When Yuta has a fully manifested Rika this completely changes. Because not only has Yuta has infinite cursed energy thanks to Rika but he also has an arsenal of cursed techniques at his disposal. And a fight between Yuta and Hakari totally depends on their DOMAIN EXPANSIONS. And we have seen what Hakari's domain can do. We havent seen Yuta's. If Yuta can fully manifest Rika without any conditions. Then we already know the answer. Full Power Yuta >/= Full Power Hakari Edit: If you Disagree its fine. Ofcourse I am no the author. Gege is one of the best writers. It all depends on Gege. But I would like to remind that Gege was planning to put Yuta as the main character before Yuji. So that alone explains Yuta.
@@maximilian7894 In chapter 188, pages 10 and 11, Hakari speedblitzes Kashimo He can also react to lightning (shown in chapter 186 and 188), Yuta never showed something on this level
@@guilha1506 Yuta getting speed blitzed by hakari is the silliest statement I've ever heard. Also hakari reacting to lightning has already been debunked; it's more likely that the lightning just arked into his arm seeing as how heavenly restriction maki can't even react to mach 3 without attaining enlightenment. Also even if hakari could speed blitz yuta that's not a win con seeing as how he still got bullied by kashimo.
Honestly I kind of interpret Yutas statement about Hakari as a bit of jealousy about the fact that Hakari, like Gojo, has infinite cursed energy ( albeit with conditions). Yuta probably laments the fact that though his energy is vast, it isn't infinite like his sensei, and that if it were, he'd damn near be the next Gojo already (if not superior), all he'd have to do is do something like maintain Uro's technique around him at all times to make him untouchable.
To be fair Kashimo only lost due to some unfortunate circumstances. If Kashimo never went in the water he could have out lasted Hakari's jackpot and one tapped him with his lightning.
@@corvid5530 I’d debate that if it wasn’t for the water thing Hakari would’ve found another way to win because Gege wanted Hakari to win without heavily injuring Kashimo. Which further proves how much Hakari was holding back because when he’d go lose he would literally speed up to the point of blitzing Kashimo. The only reason he wasn’t going even faster is because he didn’t fully understand how Kashimos chargers worked but the longer the fight the more he’d understand and the more he’d be able to control that fight. Also Hakari just wanted the point s
I like to think that when yuta said hakari is stronger than him when he's "worked up" I think he means just by himself without rika. Rika could definitely amp up yuta as we see in his fight against ishigori and uro so I still think yuta can beat hakari with rika.
I think the fact that Rika can be taken out of commision gives Hakari the win more times than not for me. Hes stronger, has great speed, cant die unless Yuta cuts off his head which isnt easy by any stretch, and his domain is stronger (Hakaris domain is stronger in a "domain tug of war") AND Hakaris cursed energy is rougher than anyone else’s according to Gojo himself. If they fought, Hakari SHOULD win, but the story would allow Yuta to win since yk… it’s Yuta. I would recommend watching ua-cam.com/video/0meoXPMbfvI/v-deo.html but I still enjoyed this video! Keep em comin Ronin!!
-yuta tanking attacks from ryu who has the highest CE output in CG, if someone like kashimo who cant even use RCT tanking hakari's punches then idk how would that be a problem for yuta? -yuta has more hax, CTs and Cursed Tools. -a metal plate could severly damage hakari's head, hes not that durable. rika's blast or maybe some cursed tools might just be enough to destroy his head
@@BluntDG1 No they don't. I think you're all forgetting how absurdly overpowered cursed techniques are. They're most of a sorcerer's strength. Without being totally overpowering or having a unique trait, you're almost never beating a sorcerer with a great CT with just hands.
@@damondgreen2239 i mean its still very impressive that it only destroyed a couple fingers, most sorcerer would get one shot by it and he did that in BASE while also tanked ice missile from uro. idk whyd you seperate his RCT as if its not part of his durability? isnt that the whole point of hakari's jackpot?
I will state its worth mentioning that Yuta fought the special grades with the intent to subdue, not to kill, which I think is extremely impressive. He never intended to kill them even as they were going all out, and he still won pretty strongly
Exactly. He fought multiple at once and wasn’t tryna kill he wanted to put them out of commission
Same for Hakari
The same exact thing can be said for Hikari
they were not special grades. they ( Uro, Druv, Kuroushi, Ryo) were in a 4 way lock with a special grade cursed spirit. a CURSED SPIRIT. there is no way they are SG. but they were very very high grade 1’s. Grade 1’s aren’t just nanami’s and Todo’s they scar way higher as it just classifies ANYONE who isn’t a special grades so there is a high ceiling. Naobito was a grade 1 and much stronger than Nanami, and i think Ryu and Uro are just a bit stronger than the Zennin clan leader
same goes for hakari. He was fighting for the points
Hakari has literal boss fight music, but Yuta has a second phase
Has 4 phases
Base yuta
Partial rika
Full rika and infinite energy(plus mimicry)
Then after rika's time is out u have base yuta but fully recovered
@@blu3d3vil97 omg so true!!!
@@blu3d3vil97 Dude you forgot about his Domain Expansion
@@Outsider_98 fair fair
@@blu3d3vil97bro reach all the way across the planet to glaze yuta
Imagine yuta using his domain expansion and suddenly says "domain expansion : idle death gamble" 💀
LMFAO bro i would laugh my ass out if that happens
Hakari would either laugh along while fighting, or shit himself
i think you might have just predicted how his domain works
Without Hakari's luck I think Idle Death Gamble is much less useful
@Melon73913 always bet on yuta
I always take yutas words with a grain of salt as it seems that yuta is humble to a fault and as such he undervalues himself when it comes to friends.
Lol no
Yuta isn't overconfident or humble he just states things as they are
We have seen this in vol 0 and in Shibuya
@@oreki8707 Lol yes
@@oreki8707 I find from what I can tell yuta is a kind of person who because he was bullied has low self-esteem and as such places his friends above himself even if it's not true I know when It comes to his enemies he has learned to be quite cold and calculating. During the movie/zero he praises inumaki for his control and power in his cursed words but at the same time yuta just blew up like a wave of curses. I find it very possible that yuta under vules himself and that Maki is more fair in her assessment of his abilities.
@@oreki8707 People hype Hakari up for being even with Kashimo but according to what we've seen Kashimo himself looks to be on par (or a little stronger maybe) with Ryu and yuta defeated Ryu along with 3 other strong sorcerers. Also Kurourushi is also a bad matchup for Hakari due to his abilities.
I don't think Yuta was being humble. The man has confidence in killing Kenjaku so he clearly thinks highly of himself. His assessment for Hakari might just be even more situational than he's letting on(since Maki disagrees).
you failed to mention that Hakari clearly has that dog in him so all your arguments are invalid
no but great video for real
Ah shit you right bro I cant believe I didnt factor that into my calculations
@@cologne2728 Glad you enjoyed tho frfr
@@BrokenRoninimo yuta with fully manifested Rika is is relative to jp hakari who is stronger than base yuta with partially manifested Rika who is relative to base hakari
@@Julian.noa21 noone is buying that base hakari can kill kenjaku in one blow
People seem to forget that hakari isn't actually unkillable in his domain. He can still get one shot lol or if they can't one shot him they can just evade him away if needed.
you have to cut off his head, which is not easy at all
Not really lol he is still pretty strong like he technically is immortal if he has his domain yk how many times he almost died and revived himself he wouldn’t be stupid enough to get one shot
@@Hxhnrsxvr No he's not immortal. The text says in that fight with Kashimo that he usually doesn't use his re-spins (which refresh him) outside of probability boost because it lowers the odds of a jackpot.
@@Hxhnrsxvr getting one shot has nothing to do with intelligence hakari ether get slashed by yutas sword or head smashed by rika
@@gaelurquiz5755 rika is literally a part of yuta arsenal that's like saying hakari can't role jackpot's
In a fight to the death id say Yuta got it but I think Yuta and Hakari may have already fought in out in the past and Hakari won. In a situation where Yuta may have been sent to go retrieve Hakari, you know how they say it’s harder to capture someone than it is to kill them a lot of the time.
What if hakari had a hand in training yuta
But that would be before yuta trained with that one guy which means yuta would be much much weaker then he would be now
Todo himself says that third year a one less level than yuta when he fought yuta.
@@sandersGG Yuta being weaker at the time is irrelevant because Yuta compared his current (or well, pre Sendai) self to the Hakari he fought back then, and concludes that even after his year of training, copied CTs, high level RCT, Curses Tool Armory, Domain Expansion etc, that he’s still weaker than the Hakari from back then
Disagree I think Hakari beats Yuta's ass
People seem to misunderstand something, the first time yuta blocked granite blast he took little to no damage, it was only on the second try when he actually used his fist to try to blow the main source of the blast that it burnt his fist
@@Kisuke258 dodge the blast ? , He blocked it with his fist
Mf is a beast. 😂
@@RayTheomo Nah just Ryu is a fraud
@@suborgulag7289Ryu was physically stronger than Yuta though
@@suborgulag7289 a estas alturas Sukuna dice que Ryu como tal es lo más resistente que ha cortado. Y tiene lógica. Es un maldito tanque tanto para dar y recibir impactos. Lo único que podría dejarlo ko sería o su propia técnica o alguien más fuerte como sukuna o gojo.
Yuta is simply that guy I really don’t know what else to say.
Funny that i wanted to comment "Even with all of what he showed in Sendai colony, he just isnt that guy" and not that close to gojo as everyone agrees on him to be, but i digress as his potential is still unknown
and the same guy stated in chapter 146 .... hakari > yuta
@@kenpachi2067 how about you clean hakari's semen out of your eyes and rewatch the video
@@kenpachi2067uh huh and hakari rn is struggling against urahime and yuta out here low diffing kenjaku sure buddy
@@Notsimple854 he low diffed nobody brother. Takaba did All the Heavy lifting
There's one thing I've always been a bit confused about with Yuta. So without even bringing Rika into the picture, he already has insane reserves of CE, right? When he showed up to Yuji, Choso & Naoya, Yuji commented on how he felt like Gojo but creepier, and then Yuta commented on how he has more CE than Gojo. Is that in Base??
And then, when "Rika" is unleashed, he has a second wind -- _another_ stack of near infinite CE from the cursed spirit?
What are you confused about? You answered yourself in your comments. Everything you said about yuta are facts
@@mikelowry3749 they just wanted confirmation on their understanding of it
Lmao yes I guess I did answer myself, I thought there was something I was missing. Initially I thought the only time Yuta had unlimited CE was when Rika was out. idk, I'm slow LMAO I'll rely on this comment from now on 😂
yes, yuta in base already have massive CE reserve, its just that in the sendai fight he constantly use RCT to heal from tanking granite blast, attack that could one shot anybody in CG. he also use RCT as an output to kill kuro. all of that takes a lot out of him
Still, because Gojo uses curse energy so effectively, he will never run out unlike yuta
Here’s my theory on yuta and hakari based off data gathered from the anime,manga and jjk 0 movie. Yuta and hakari both don’t know what their current selves are capable of. What we are currently aware of is that the last time yuta and hakari made contact was in yutas first year( jjk 0) as maki stated though during the sister exchange event yuta was put into the squad because “ the numbers didn’t add up” this group was inclusive of first and second years as we know that’s how the sister exchange even works (with the exception of megumi and nobara entering because the third years were suspended). Maki specifically stated that yuta was in the sister exchange event prior to rikas release, from what we know yuta only fully manifested rika twice at jujutsu tech( at the school with maki) and (against geto) apart from that yuta wasn’t allowed to release her or he would be executed. Towards the end of the film yuta left the school to go abroad and hasn’t been in contact with anyone apart from gojo ever since this is backed up by the fact that when yuta met maki during the culling game he said “long time no see” meaning the only people that are aware of how strong current yuta is are Miguel and gojo. No one knows how strong hakari is either apart from Kiarara as he/she was the only one in contact with him. This brings me to my final statement, the last time everyone saw yuta he lacked experience, didn’t have a domain expansion and didn’t have full control of rika. Am example of this is the fact that kenjaku still thinks rika relies on his loved ones (rika) for power. So yeah that’s it no one knows the current power level of yuta or hakari and neither do the know themselves as the last time the met was a year ago in which both of them have obviously significantly improved. This is backed up with things said from the manga,anime and movie that’s why I used quotes to show specific things said in the series or manga.
Yuta has only being a jujutsu sorcerer for 2 years guys he isn't even yet enlightened etc.if gojo who was surely training since his childhood,had to be enlightened with some years of training to be so busted.imagine yuta in the next 5 years🥶🥶
yuta has already been stated to have started approaching his limit, also he had his enlightened moment when he fought geto and made a binding vow with rika.
@@mikeyjr3930 that's not enlightenment that's just a rage amp
@@mikeyjr3930 Where is this stated? Yuta in theory doesn't have a limit. He can continue collecting more and more cursed techniques to expand his arsenal
@@Alatris After their fight Uro tells him he’s reaching his limit of strength and can’t compare to someone like Sukuna who is more like a calamity
@@Alatris Ryu told him
10:20 Hakari isn’t mentioned because Gege specifically notes in the character poll under Hakari’s segment that Hakari is Jujutsu High’s **Secret Weapon** that’s even more powerful than Yuta
And as we seen with Kenjaku and Yuki, not having info and intel on someone makes a big difference.
That’s on top of Gojo not knowing whether Hakari would even get himself involved with Kenjaku. Keep in mind, Gojo probably hasn’t seen Hakari for a year and had no idea that Yuji and Megumi would go convince him to help. Meanwhile he knows Yuta is the type that would
that's reasonable
Cmon, he would have still jus mentioned Yuta, the guy is clearly stronger than hakari
Bro tf U mean gojo literally mentions yuta and not hakari when he had already mentioned hakari before as he literally states him and yuta to be able to rival him someday so he definately knows his potential and how strong he is and like wth whatever u said make zero sense gojo didnt state yuta because he was the most clearest or available option he picked him because he thought of him strong enough to beat kenjaku cause yuta already beated geto so gojo probably thought kenjaku is as powerful as geto so he stated yuta but the point is
Gojo could have literally said hakari's name too but he didnt and there's no reason for him to do it and whatever ur saying about not seeing hakari in a year or yuji and all wouldnt have gone to him is pure bs Gojo means somebody who will be able to defeat kenjaku and he names yuta not hakari thats the main point cause like what hakari would never face kenjaku? Ofcouse he would but he still names yuta
@@fernandoreimpell2818 no his black
Yuta is more powerful than Hakari stop capping
By far the best video I’ve seen on this topic.
TL;DW: Yuta Scales to a weakened Sukuna that could still likely beat Kashimo with relative ease. Hakari scales to Kashimo, who scales below a weakened Sukuna.Yuta has his domain expansion, a plethora of cursed techniques he's stored, Rika, much more. He can easily wait out the 4 minutes 11 seconds and kill Hakari.
Could you do Naoya (both as a sorcerer and a cursed spirit) vs Kashimo next? I think it'd be an interesting matchup.
I like this match up
Kashimo terrorizes
The moment Naoya sees him he would stop simping for Toji and swap for Kashimo
The second naoya punches him he'd get shocked and easily stunlocked while kashimo tears him up
@@st43k76 Naoya the cursed spirit on the other hand?
Cursed Spirit Naoya Speed Blitzes tbh, While Human Naoya gets the Panda Treatment
The fact that yuta cooks up a W without taking his domain into consideration is absolutely nuts .
do we know yuta having a domain
@@tempest1765 Well he was about to open it until cockroach dude interfered
@@tempest1765 yes
@@tempest1765 he does, he was about to use it in his fight with ryu and Uro but the fight got interrupted by the cockroach cursed spirit
@@tempest1765 he does
Do you even read the Manga
The three way domain ? Remember?
maki is an extension of the author who knows everything about yuta lmao he clearly intended to point out yuta was being humble or else he wouldn’t have maki make that statement *AFTER* the yuta statment
gege told u that ??
@@mikeyjr3930 what do you mean
@@mikeyjr3930 Gege has written multiple times that Yuta is 2nd to Gojo, even in his poll.
In base Yuta vs Hakari isn’t that close imo. Yuta swapped hands with Ishigori and Yuji. Granted Yuji was holding back somewhat because of his mental state, Yuta was also holding back because he was trying to make it a clean death and instead of hack and slash him. Not to mention RCT.
Hakari fought charles, whom of which we don’t know how strong he was in order to scale him. He also fought Yuji but keep in mind that Yuji was more so trying to convince him, not necessarily win. So all he did was not fight back and tank his attacks
Bro that doesn’t mean shit yuji was getting his ass beat he literally said hakari hits feels like a bat with spikes or summ like that hakari in base is way stronger than yuji as we seen in the manga😂
Yugi was still taking damage from hakari attacks and hakari didn’t really need gis domain vs charles that fight was completely one sided from the start
@@trezze.r671 Yuji literally says he won't fight back. It's impossible to tell if Base Hakari or Yuji is stronger. Yuji also tanks 4 hits straight to the face. Even Hakari is shocked Yuji is standing and still ok.
@@atpr3241 that's a non argument as yuji starts to fight back and it does nothing
@@k1ceps183 Yuji headbutts Hakari->90% of their fight goes offscreen->Yuji gets knocked through a door and saying he won't fight back->Tanks another 3 hits to the face.
as a yuta fan, thank you for proposing this perspective. thought this was gonna be another “why hakari stomps” video
seems like you can't handle the truth
@@bruhhh8326 ok…
@@bruhhh8326 Hakari gets shitted on, lmao cope
@@flyforever20 RATIO
@@bruhhh8326got ratiod so bad
Theres a reason Gojo left the care of first and second years to Yuta. There’s a reason why Todo wanted Yuta at Goodwill. There’s a reason why Yuji thought Yuta, if he ever switched again, would kill him. There’s a reason why Yuta is hyped up narratively to fight Kenjaku, and Hakari isn’t. He’s second to Gojo, and for good reason.
The winner, is Yuta Okkotsu.
Yuta is being hyped up to get low diffed 💀
@@guilha1506 LMAOOO
Maybe because thats not where hakari’s interests lie , all he wants to do is reform the jujutsu world
Yuta's the goat but he's not close to Kenjaku's level lol
That man yuta getting cooked 🗿😂
i genuinely dont think hakari can do any relevant dmg on yuta that he isnt just gonna rct away
I dont know if he can surpass Rikka's defense if Yuta decides to play defensive, like he got the best RCT in the series, this is cannon, which means he got unmatchable defense, he got chosen against Uraume for a reason, but bro lowkey got no offense whatsoever, his only attack his edged CE, and Yuji just said its like getting hit with a baseball bat with nails, Yuta uses an actual sword and giant beam blasters, and has defensive CTs, how is bro getting past that 😭
like legit, the only way Hakari wins is if he manages to stall Yuta out and the Rikka timer runs out
Really fantastic video! It had great points and pacing. The only thing that I will add is something that I really think is not talked about nearly enough in this debate... and thats hakaris burnout. Once Hakari enters JP, he cannot recast his domain expansion until his timer runs out. Therefore If Yuta just waits for Hakari to hit his JP then launches his own domain its gg. Regardless of what Yutas DE even does, it should not matter. (For arguments sake lets pretend that Hakari in JP is stronger than Yuta and Yutas DE does not have a sure hit or sure kill, it only provides the status amp). Even if you believe Hakari is >= Yuta, Yuta and Rika in his domain would recieve the power increase that DE passively provide. That same power increase took Megumi, (a character who was getting blitzed by a finger bearer), to being able to scrap and trade blow for blow with that same FB. All in all, you hit all of the main points and I think did it extremely well, just wanted to add a little more!
Yuta's just super humble. He knows he strong, but he's willing to acknowledge others powers and the strengths they have. Even if there not physically strknger than him.
lol.... how do you know the mindset of a character. Sure he is humble but when he states another is stronger than him, its taken with a grain of salt. How???? I say yuta truly ecknowleges hakari stronger than him
@@kenpachi2067 way to see it in a different light. My hat goes off to you, good sir
@@DragonStar524we've seen in the culling game that he isn't humble
He called himself blessed
Said he would kill kenjaku himself
Would get 400 points himself
Brother ain't humble
@musalefatle6454 Hakari Fandom have really fallen off
And now, Yuta got his domain, he can go one on one with sukuna, and even almost beat him if not for plot armor
I appreciate yall takin this so straightforward. minimal bias :)
I think people sleep on Yuta. We hype up Kashimo because his technique hasn’t been revealed yet. We have no idea what Yuta’s domain expansion is. It would be a game changer
Nope, we hype up kashimo bc he said can fight FP SUKUNA with that . And 15f sukuna already NO diff Ryu who give yuta trouble so Yuta already lost the hype. At least for me.
@@mugetsu1821 this did not age well😭
@@0kkotsu90 bro I'm coming back to this vid after everything with Yuta's domain and etc to look at this discussion after the whole 'Hakari femboy enjoyer thing' started, and seeing the amount of people saying Hakari is stronger than Yuta because he fought on ""equal grounds"" with Kashimo who is 'just about as strong as Heian Sukuna' is lowkey... *sad* actually, Kashimo was so wasted bro I hope Mappa fixes it
YEAH BUDDY been waiting for this one I'm team Yuta win or lose
i love hakari but from what i’ve seen a lot of people over hype him in terms of strength yes he’s a definite grade 1 but i don’t think he’s anywhere near special grade in his normal form i mean look at how kashimo just absolutely dog washed him and after he goes into jackpot as long as you can avoid his attacks and wait for his time to end or cast your own domain you’ll basically win and especially him fighting an actual special grade yeah hakari is getting beat
yea people greatly overrate hakari's strength, he's cool and jackpot is powerful but he isn't even close to a special grade level imo. I mean just looking more closely at his fight with Kashimo he still nearly lost against him even with multiple jackpots, like he had to force him to deplete all his CE in order to actually win, I think fundamentally Hakari's limitation is a lack of the level of AP that people like Yuta, Gojo, Geto and Yuki all show
Didn't yuta himself said Hakari on a streak could beat him ?
@@berketetik3118 people love to forget this fact lol
@@berketetik3118 didn't Maki call that bullsht.
@@restlessgambler8107 people love to ignore yuta is just being humble, and when yuta made that statement, Maki says is not true.
I agree that all Yuta has to do is catch Hakari in that window of time where he is not immortal. However, I also wonder if Yuta and hakari had fought seriously one time which is why he made that comment. JJK has shown that even if you got hacks like Gojo, having no hands can get you laid out lmao. Also who does the illustration for your thumbnails I really like the style
Your example doesn't make sense cause Yuta has hands, he has literally everything (hacks & physicality)
Yuta won't be able to do it. The pseudo spin is too OP
See I just don't think they *could* fight all out. One of them would end up dead, and if that doesn't happen, then they're not going all out.
There is another thing as well. Yuta could potentially open his domain while Hakari is in JP since he can't open his domain in JP. Then Hakari will have to deal with full power Yuta and Rika + domain buff + sure hit because we haven't seen Hakari use a domain counter yet. Either he'll get his head crushed in the domain or kill him with his guaranteed hit or Rika right when it ends
mf that's if he has a lethal domain what if he doesn't like hakari's or gojo's
@@rodrigueajavon Gojo's actually is lethal. If it's like Hakari then we'll see lol
domain sure hits get nullified by another domain expansion so thats out of the question given hakaris domain has more like switching places so who knows there could be more, and crushing a head of a person with infinite cursed energy is prolly not as easy as you make it sound. Also both kashimo and hakari didnt use any cursed techniques except idle death gambler surely hakari didnt spend jujutsu tech without learning anything but his domain. ALSO kashimo is the most cracked individual with crazier attack output than hakari but that doesnt mean hakaris AP is not impressive
@Scuffed Pixel 1. Hakari can't activate his domain in JP, so he would be uncontested vs Yuta's domain
2. Hakari's CT is burned out after his domain ends, just like everyone else, but he's in JP so it doesn't matter
3. I didn't intend to make it sound easy, Yuta would be using his absolute maximum power, domain + Rika + his sure hit + himself. I think he would overwhelm JP Hakari
4. I'll wait for another Hakari fight to determine his AP tbh because it's too questionable
Hakari domain ALWAYS wins a domain clash,because his domain doesnt give him buffs or has a sure hit guarantee.Its like a binding vow
with yuta's domain it would easily kill hakari because he could choose angels ct as the sure hit and get rid of his ct easily
Base to base: Yuta
All-Out: Yuta takes Hakari's head off
Sparring Match: Hakari takes the dub because Yuta is a sweetie pie
Thumbnails lowkey gettin slightly better lately
(I think that) obviously hakari relies mainly on his domain to be able to possibly beat yuta but we've never seen yuta's domain and since yutas CE is higher than hakaris im pretty sure his domain can overthrow hakari's (correct me if im wrong) and in that case, hakari will definitely lose without his domain
Domain tug of wars are more based on DE refinement than how much CE is poured into them, as far as we know. Like, Gojo doesn't use much CE to make his DE - quite the opposite, in fact, as he does it SO efficiently he can even open more than once a day - but his DE is so refined, because of the Six Eyes, that he'd win a domain battle against anyone that doesn't have a domain with an open barrier (just because we don't know how this interaction would go), even if the opponent is using way more CE than he is.
So we don't know. We know Hakari's domain is insanely well built, and we know that the fact that his technique activation is harmless also helps him during DE tug of wars (I'll source it in the end of the comment). But we don't know how refined Yuta's domain is.
If I had to bet, I'd say Hakari's domain wins, based off what we saw him do. Not only is his domain incredibly specific and stupidly powerful, he has the fastest domain activation of all the cast (even faster than Gojo's and Mahito's 0.2s DEs), has a binding vow that makes it stronger against other domains and we know he can even move the barrier while inside the domain.
Source for my claim about Hakari's domain having advantage on tug of wars: twitter.com/Lightning446/status/1577415959756709888?s=20
@@MultiWar22 Gojo is exceptional
We don't know how much cursed energy is to be poured naturally into his domain but it's said enough to burn out his brain if he uses it Multiple times a day
He has six eyes so he can just use much less energy and the outcome would still have the same strenght
Take some other example
@@MultiWar22yeah with hakaris whole thing being about domains, i would give him the benefit of the dbout that he has a "stronger" domain than yuta
Hakari : mahn how did you win despite me regenerating instantly for the 777th time??
Yuta : I guess I was just... Lucky
See my breakdown of the fight
Both full power(Jackpot Hakari, Okkotsu with Rika)
Strength-Hakari
Speed-Hakari
Durability-Yuta
Endurance-Yuta
Versatility-Okkotsu
IQ-Okkotsu
BIQ-Equal, if not equal then Hakari
Cursed Energy-Okkotsu
Cursed Energy Control-Okkotsu
Cursed Technique-Okkotsu
Domain Expansion-Can't Say bcos we haven't seen Okkotsu's Domain
Keep in mind that every category someone wins doesn't mean they completely stomp, someone can still have an advantage but it can be a close one. These two are extremely relative but I feel Okkotsu wins
You’re the only credible JJK UA-camr atp
Hakari's domain also transfers all of the rules of his domain directly into the opponents mind.
I 100% agree. I can’t see jackpot Hakari forcing Yuta to use Rika RIGHT AWAY. Yuta only used Rika after getting hit with multiple big attacks that forced him to use RCT multiple times. These attacks are all stronger and more deadly than a regular curse energy enhanced punch that even jackpot Hakari would be using.
Base Yuta even if Hakari in jackpot has the upper hand has no reason to go all out right away and it’s not in character. I don’t see JP Hakari who has less attack potency than Ryu forcing Yuta to use RCT with some punches and kicks when Ryu couldn’t do it and kashimo never had to heal from those attacks.
In order for Hakari fans to justify their claim, they scale him above Ryu, though narration tells us Ryu literally has the highest output, thus hitting harder.
@@kharirichards Exactly
we saw what sukuna did to ryu, and we saw what kashimo thought of him, he wasnt intrested in fighting him@@kharirichards
@@timpa701 Kashimo doesn't care for someone on his level, he's more excited of someone who's stated to be stronger than him. Plus Ryu was far away, Kashimo wasn't going to travel. To add, Kenjaku wouldn't propose someone to lose against him, but to give him a run for his money. He believes that Ryu would. Both Kashimo & Kenjaku don't know if he would be a match, loss, or victor against Ryu.
Lastly, Ryu dealt with Sukuna's Cleave & Dismantle. Kashimo is dealing with a different Sukuna and a weaker one at that, since he didn't/couldn't use his CT, and just fought Gojo so his output is lower than usual. We have no way of clearly seeing who's stronger between Ryu & Kashimo.
@@kharirichardseh, yes base kashimo vs Ryu is debatable, Kashimo with CT stomps Ryu.
Also, I agree with the reasoning why Kashimo wasn't interested in Ryu. Kashimo was old af atp potentially going up against Ryu in his prime, why would Kashimo do that if he can just be reincarnated to be at his peak fighting the strongest sorcerer that is Sukuna?
And, for the 15f Sukuna blitzing Ryu, tha was probably a day after Ryu fought Yuta and I doubt he has RCT so the fact he was worn out when he fought Sukuna isn't a fair argument.
another certified BR classic
Yuta>Hakari because Yuta is OP but something that a lot of people seem to not remember about Hakari and something that's rarely talked about is the nature of his cursed energy itself.
In his first encounter with Yuji, Hakari is able to inflict a massive amount of damage against Yuji thanks to his cursed energy being akin to being hit with a bat covered in barbed wire. That's just base Hakari, people tend to not understand that unless you're someone like Kashimo who's cursed energy is akin to lighting your stamina is going to be depleted pretty quickly. So when Yuta says Hakari is stronger than him, he's well aware that he can lose in blow for blow competition thanks to the physical exhaustion.
I'm just waiting for us to see Hakari use actual techniques
I mean I didn't see how Hakari could win in the first place. Yuta doesn't even have to call in a homie to jump you, he's a solo jumper. Yuji just be pulling up with anybody just to jump someone, I bet the final chapter is just gonna be Yuta and Yuji jumping someone because that's the next team up to happen and it'll be a three way jumping
Yea I agree Hakari just doesn't have the AP to beat someone like Yuta, he only even won against Kashimo bc he was weak to water (due to the special property of his CE) if Kashimo didn't have that huge weakness I'm almost certain Hakari would've lost eventually once he slipped up at all
Hakari had another guaranteed Jackpot that had a 75% chance of leading to another guaranteed Jackpot while Kashimo tried practically everything that he had to kill Hakari and failed
He would’ve to deal with him for more 8 minutes while not having a single thing to finish him. Kashimo’s last hope was poison (that failed) and a huge explosion (that failed)
@@guilha1506 huge explosion only failed due to the water weakness which by that time Kashimo figured out that if he stops him from making the hand signs that opens his DE, then no immortality. This guy’s point is that, if not for the water weakness, Kashimo would’ve wrapped up the fight then and there. If they ran it back, Kashimo would win
Exactly. If they fought again in a different location, Kashimo probably would’ve won
@@Andrew1webb idk, hakari is smart af (kashinmo is too, I didn't know electricity and water could do that) he'd probably find a way to win
@@samuraitadpole5459 Hakari is smart but not enough to stop him from getting his hand blown off after jackpot wears off, as Kashimo demonstrated. Kashimo pretty much figured it out in the end
I think Hakari can beat Yuta, but when you add Rika, then jackpot Hakari is on equal/lower footing than the two combined, so that's more of if you think that hakari can survive for those 5 minutes
Hakari power up is basically him turning into yuta. RCT Boundless cursed energy. 😂
I tried showing some people with panels that parallel each other. How they both destroy the ground with a punch, how both Ryu and Kashimo are bored from the past, but excited to fight them, how they both heal multiple times. and how they both talked to their opponents after the fight.
Hakari only chance is domain expansion. The thing is, yuta wins a domain battle because he has more cursed energy to counter the domain with his own in addition to many Weapons.
All hakari gets from domain jackpots is more cursed energy as a resource. That only temporarily puts him at yuta level.
Yuta also has Rita . . . Hakari will need alot of luck to win
Luck? Yeah, he has em
Now here’s the real question which one has more drip yuta or hakari?
hakari 💯
I don't think there's enough information to rank either of these characters properly yet. Unlike someone we already saw the entire potential, both Yuta and Hakari still have mysteries surrounding their potential.
Yuta hasn't fought all out with his power and proper training yet, we don't know the conditions for his technique activation (copying something), we don't exactly know Rika's limitations outside their "together" mode or its cooldown. For example, does Yuuta need to call Rika fully before he can acess the CT storage? How much of a technique can Yuta copy? Can he use stolen domains? Can he improve the technique himself?
As for Hakari, his entire skill being based on "luck" makes him have the most absurd, overpowered plot armor ever. He will win and evade death as long as his "luck" doesn't run out. That is, unless it's all a con. Hakari's CE is reffered to as "coarse like sandpaper" his demeanor and behavior during his fights really gives you the idea that he is a "Shark" (Shark skin is coarse like sandpaper), meaning in gambling that he uses psychological manipulation and even cheats to lure his opponents into seemingly advantageous high-risk gambles and then takes reaps the reward away from them.
If this is correct, then Hakari doesn't have or need luck, what Hakari has is the ability to fake out his power as to not scare opponents away too much and give them a false confidence about their odds of winning and his odds of hitting a jackpot. Did I mention that his CT is called "Performance"? That is exactly what a Shark does. And if his CT can naturally create characters and objetcs inside their own contained circumstances then it is't far fetched to assume Hakari can cheat a jackpot by altering the result of a roll when he needs to.
Moreover, if this theory is correct then Hajime's almost succesful attemps at oneshoting Hakari could have been just a performance on his part to lure Hajime into the game and keep him gambling. After all one can't gamble by himself. Naturally, if all of these are correct, his entire strategy possesses a great weakness: If his opponents won't take his baits and keep a level head, or if they catch him cheating his rolls, he might lose his DE and be forced to wait until his CT is reestablished or maybe he will get punished for cheating and have his CE completely removed for a duration similar to his bonus.
Either way, Hakari's ability makes him extremly unpredictable as a character.
this is the first time ive disagreed with broken ronin (not based on whose stronger i havent finished the video yet) but you said that gojo thought about yuta in his last moments before being sealed instead of hakari and i believe that is because relying on hakari at the time was a risky move as he was unpredictable and had a slim chance of even being recruited in the rescue mission of gojo where on the other hand yuta was reliable and willing to fight at any time
How was recruiting Hakari slim? Where did it say that?
At go at
@@kharirichards Hakari is a wild card in the Sorcerer's world, He allies with no one and only does what he wants to do.
It's implied that Gojo and JJK high themselves have not contacted Hakari hence why Gojo suspected he wouldn't help during his save mission
@@King_of_kings07
1. A wild card in the Jujutsu world is a Special Grade Sorcerer or Spirit. Hakari is neither.
2. He actually does ally with others, the other 3rd year, and now Jujutsu High.
3. What chapter did Gojo suspect Hakari wouldn't help?
@@kharirichards
1. What I meant by Wild card is by the literal TV trope of Wild card, and uncontrollable force that's usually an undetermined factor when it comes to plans, Kinda like the Luffy from one piece type of character, you'd never know if he's partying or overthrowing a kingdom, a Wildcard.
2. He got suspended from Jujutsu High, and for a while he had his own fight club/casino, where he operates outside the main Sorcerer's world, meaning at one point he allied with no one, since when I did state all this, I was talking about him before the culling games.
3. I don't think there's a specific one that I can think of, but considering Gojo only thinks of Yuta when he's getting sealed and when he was shock to see Hakari when he's freed, suggest that he did not have any expectation for Hakari to join the quest to free him.
Yuta can just domain clash with Hakari so he can never get a jackpot then beat him up with Rika
Dope video 🔥🔥👍
Best JJk Collab ^^^^
Yuta: Hakari is stronger than me when he gets worked up
Maki (along with the entire fandom): Baby no 🥺
You should also include the narrator then, since they said Yuta is second only to Gojo.
Even if Hakari was actually stronger, the last time Yuta saw him was before he left to Africa and before he gained new CT from the Culling Games. He is undoubtedly far stronger now than the last time he would've seen Hakari in action
@@shepardice3775 he isn't arguing against it
@@flyforever20 Yep, I'm team Yuta all the way
@@shepardice3775 true, I just thought that moment was cute, even in a platonic PoV
The fact that there are multiple statements of this and everyone still disagrees 😭
My guyyy! You should revisit this topic
I wanna add on something, yuta can simply put rika outside of the hakari's domain barrier and destroy it from outside
777
I'm pretty sure rika has a summon range. Or else gege would have had yuta using that a lot more
The only problem with the strategy of breaking Hakari's domain from the outside is its activation time, Hakari's domain has been stated to be the fastest activating one, so unless Hakari forbids her entrance, I dont think she can speed out, she's getting caught too.
@@Annihilation_Studios while Shikigami's usually do have a limit on how far they can go and how long they can stay out, Rika doesnt has one. She can go as far as she wants a pretty much act as an independent being (in JJK0 it truly was the case, since she was a cursed spirit, she truly was a separated individual that just choose to stay by Yuta's side but could go on her own anytime, after JJK0 Rika's a Shikigami, but it doesnt seem to hindrance her independent action capacity), we dont know if its because of Yuta's monstrous CE that just gives her that much range or if its part of a Binding Vow that grants Rika freedom, but yes she be put outside domains. They dont do that because it makes Yuta defenseless
The only case where that strategy would be good is in non-lethal domains, like Hakari's or Higuruma's, and since Hakari's domain activates too fast for her to escape I think Higuruma's would be the only one in which that'd be a viable option, Yuta would just have to wait until she breaks the domain from outside with a CE blast of something.
I don't even think Hakari would be able to get his domain expansion off. I feel like Yuta would just overpower Hakari in a battle of domains.
but hakari got rid of the sure kill effect of his domain for an upperhand during a domain battle so that isnt possible i think
@@ZEESHANKHAN-wp5vlIt's still possible it's just that Hakari not having the kill effect means he can still use his domain ability even while in domain tug of war
meaning that he would get the jackpot lol@@n4825
@@n4825 it means Hakari wins in a domain battle
Yuta is a humble guy
This is why Feats > Statements
i just wanna see Yuta's domain expansion man.
no one ever talks about the fact hakari has his own cursed technique that isnt just punch and kick like his shutter doors and the balls not that he'd win but still
A bit off topic but I would love to see a video on how u think the order in the sakamoto days can match up with the hasiras in demon slayer. I think it will be close
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THANK YOU! but...If people STILL think Hikari wins, no shame on them, the author made 2 characters say different things on purpose in order for people can go either way, but Yuta does have the better arguments
If Yuta solos Gojo I’m still on Hakari’s side
@@guilha1506 Lol at least you're honest
@@guilha1506 me when people say yuji is dead
I don’t think people who still believe in Hakari deserve no shame. We should absolutely shame people for not using critical thinking and ALL of the facts presented to make an accurate assessment. Most people picking Hakari in these comments are blatantly ignoring facts and specifically choosing ones that benefit their argument while making up headcanon to justify their ignorance.
@@guilha1506 actual d1 recruit level hating. Kinda based
The thumbnail gives me Samurai Jack vibes so much for whatever reason
I'm just gonna say , we saw what Sukuna did to Ryu who pushed Yuta , we're gonna see how Kashimo fares against Sukuna and I bet that's gonna really upscale Hakari , we haven't seen all his arsenal yet
If Yuta himself who knows his limits said this I don't see how what Maki says hold any weight
Sukuna doing what he did to Ryu easily makes him the second most durable character right after mahoraga. This is the same Ryu Yuta beat after having a series of fights: Him vs. Dhruv (no rika), Him vs. Kurouroushi (no Rika), then an battle Royale directly after.
@@phillipsmith2201 his point is how easily Ryu got destroyed pretty much one chapter
I doubt it'd be like that with Kashimo
That’s like saying jogo surviving longer makes him stronger than Ryu lol.
@@mikebreen-ub3gf pretty much two pages Bro😂😂
1) This Sukuna has Megumi’s technique it’s already an unbalanced comparison. 2) Kashimo never used his CT, but plans to use it on Sukuna, so that further skews the comparison. In short: Nothing you said matters here.
Its controversial because people like hakari and are in denial that he loses to yuta.
Its the same thing you see with yuji fans thinking he wins any fight cause he punches hard only difference is hakari has infinite healing for 4mins if lucks on his side. Yea its a good technique its just not enough for higher tier characters like yuta. like honestly he was lucky to even beat kashimo.
I don't understand how hakari is even close to yuta it was said that he second only to gojo so that right there should be enough
Yuta with the killing intend will be scary, yuta rightnow can use space manipulation that he got from that savage chick, mimicry is op tho not even talking about his de and his ultimate 5 minutes unlimited chakra 😅, one blast to hakari head will end the battle even if he in his jackpot
I always thought yuta mean't he's stronger than him without rika.
This dude Yuta really got a stand bru
Can you make ishigori vs jogo? I can't believe some people thinks this one side can win anytime because of sukuna's fight comparison
Yuta was just being humble with the hakari line, I see the maki line as Gege telling us yuta’s just gassing up his bro
I understand that a lot of JJK's power scaling lore(?) comes from statements, but I really feel like people give a little too much credence to statements in order to power scale. Gojo saying "I would beat Sukuna" does not actually mean that he actually would. Same goes for Sukuna saying "I'll kill Gojo." It's different if it's the narration stating something, as that is the author's interjection on the topic. But an in universe character making statements cannot be taken at 100% face value (Most of the time). So Yuta saying Hakari is stronger than him when he's on a role, only for Maki to refute what Yuta said, can only be interpreted as "Hakari is really strong" and nothing more. Especially given the fact that Yuta has a tendency to undersell himself. That's just my opinion ofc.
Exactly. There are many statement like this we can't believe. Like jogo saying he can beat gojo.
Gojo saying he will defeat sukuna with little difficult.
Yuji saying yuta can beat 15f sukuna.
All that statement just show they are relative in power.
SPITTIN
The narrator said Yuta is second only to Gojo yet people love to ignore that. That should end the discussion right there
@@shepardice3775o my guy that’s a false translation. He’s second to Gojo in “unusual abilities” nothing else. Also he’s not even second. I’d argue Yuki is above him. Maki also just recently flat out stated that nobody was beating Kenjaku through conventional means. I do not see Yuta beating Kenjaku especially. Not from what we’ve seen
@@BeastBoy557what false it literally says that yuta is the second strongest in modern sorcery. Translated by viz and backed by TCB scan. Stop the cap with an unusual abilities 😂
In the Japanese version, it's 「異能」which can mean unusual talent, or outstanding potential/skill.
I would give base yuta the win if it’s a fight between both of them in base form it wouldn’t be completely one sided but yuta having more cursed energy and tools gives him the advantage plus I give durability to yuta as we have seen even sukuna complimented ishigoris durability and yuta was able to damage him sand with rika. Then when it comes to full power its quite close but the fact that we haven’t seen yutas domain expansion makes it hard to rank this because yutas domain might be a guaranteed win domain like gojos and mahitos, if yuta was to fight hakari during his jackpot he could use cursed speech to stop hakari and decapitate him or he wait till hakaris domain ends as hakari has to go through the game before he hits a jackpot he will have a few seconds of him being in base form. If yuta and rika were to bombard him with attacks both going all out not even base hakari could survive that.
@@gaelurquiz5755 what do you mean rika is her own fighter? Bro do you even read the manga? For yuta to fight at his full potential he needs rika to be unleashed so he can use his cursed technique plus she acts as a shikigami. It’s like telling someone to fight without there curses technique or telling megumi to fight without his shadows or telling yuki to fight without her shikigami, it makes no sense. Cursed speech can be countered yes but it’s not like he will know yuta is about to use it I mean even uro wasn’t able to cover in time so yeah your the only one wrong here.
Hype vs Hype let’s goooo!
dont care what anybody says kinji hakari is always gonna be the goat
What if they say he's the King of all G.O.A.Ts?
Hakari solos and no one can change my mind, that guy can go legit immortal and even survied one shot attacks, Hakari no difs and ill never stop being a Hakari fan boy
Is Hakari stronger than Kenjaku?
Get him past yuki first
An interesting fight to see would be Maki vs Ishigori
Ishigori got spliced
Maki destroys him
Maki wins against any character little to no difficulty
I would love to see a vid from you Yuta and Hakari vs Gojo and Geto(hidden inventory pre awakening)
I feel like Yuta doesn't consider himself and Rika as one fighter and therefore in his statement he meant that Hakari would beat him, but this is only when he wouldn't use Rika, and as Yuji has shown people view Rika as more of a cursed tool, or shikigami rather than a entity separate to Yuta, which is why Maki would say no against Yutas statement, because she is counting Rika and Yuta whole Yuta is just taking himself into account
That's seems kinda dumb ngl, Rika is his technique so y would they not count that when matching them against each other??
@@Atlas9766 I think Rika being Yuta's technique was another translation error and that it's actually just a gift from the real Rika when she stopped being a cursed spirit. That Yuta's true technique is copying and Rika is only as explained by a hard drive where Yuta keeps the cursed techniques that he has copied until now (because now we know about the Kenjaku vs Yuki fight, you can't have many techniques at the same time because If not, your brain suffers the consequences and this is how Yuta avoids that problem)
@4l4n51lva that doesn't change my statement or the statement I was commenting on tho, saying Yuta wasn't including Rika when he was talking about Hakari is just plain stupid
Like me saying "ur a better driver than me, but that only if I don't use my hands"
@@Atlas9766garuda from Yuki is not her CT, it's just an extension. Same with Yuta, Rika is a shikigami but not his main arsenal/CT, his CT IS copy.
Nice seeing this knowing i was on the right side all the time
Do yuki vs yuta versus that’s a fight I wanna hear about
People tend to think Hakari is stronger due to Yutas own words, which imo should be taken with a grain of salt since right after said statement Maki after said no. It’s also been stated time and time again, he’s second ONLY to Gojo. While everyone else gets stated to be on Gojos level one day. Hakari on a jackpot role would be a huge issue, however Yuta has too many haxs that Hakari would loose due to attrition.
The official translation is second to gojo in unusual abilities.
So you wanna take makis word over yuta??there would be no need for him to lie about that
Why the fuck would maki even matter? She could be down playing hakari or just d riding yuta for all we know. We dont know if she even has seen them fight at full power before. So she's not a valid source of knowledge. Meanwhile, yuta, who knows how strong he is and obv how strong hakari is says that hakari is stronger than him on a roll. Also, yuta has had more page/screen time than hakari, so that doesn't matter
Ppl conveniently ignore how Hakari’s jackpot is based entirely around his domain. Kashimo had no domain during the fight bc he didn’t use his CT but Yuta won’t have that restriction.
Hakari has no chance in a domain battle with Yuta and once he’s in Yuta’s domain it’s over.
in case you havent heard, hakari is extremely difficult to win against in a domain battle due to the sure hit effect not being lethal, causing him to use his domain faster than 0.2 seconds. (for some reason, viz removed this in the official translation)
just bc Hakari can expand his domain faster doesn’t it’s stronger or more refined. Yuta can still expand his own domain even if he’s inside Hakari’s.
We’ve seen both Gojo and Megumi expand domains inside someone else’s. No reason to think Yuta can’t do the same
@@kampa8949 like i said, it's extremely difficult to win against a domain with a non-lethal effect, no matter how strong or refined one's domain is. if it wasn't, kashimo could've easily just put up his own domain in his fight with hakari.
@@spacezeppeli7358hat’s literally just false. There’s nothing in the story talking about non lethal domains being stronger.
Kashimo didn’t use his domain because domains are an extension of one’s CT, but Kashimo didn’t use his CT against Hakari, therefore he couldn’t use his domain.
@@spacezeppeli7358 can't yuta have Rika break hakari domain from outside?
THANK YOU. Someone tried arguing with me that hakari wants a long drawn out fight, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what he needs. The longer the fight goes on, the more back to back jackpots he has to hit. Idk how some people can see kashimo say that the smart plan is to stall hakari out, and then go "hakari wants to draw the fight out" 😂
Yuta himself said that Hakari would be above him on a good day. It fights with Hakari's persona as a gambler
Maki calls that bullsht.
@@nasteay7497 Same statement is said in 3 extra external sources, gonna say that Maki is above official omniscient material?
Maki is also biased towards Yuta, hates Hakari, heavily considers the grading system and wasn’t even strong at that time to properly powerscale
Also, who do you think that knows more about Yuta’s powers, Yuta or Maki?
@@nasteay7497 So Maki who couldn't sense cursed energy and hasn't seen Yuta in a year is more valid than Yuta huh
@@guilha1506 yuta is a humble guy. If u ask him who would win between him and Maki. He would also claim that Maki would win. That's how humble he is. That's why Maki's statement is more reliable.
@@nasteay7497 except when it comes to kenjaku, yuta said "fuck being humble, I want blood!"
hakari>yuta if he gets jackpot, maki is a useless person to takes statement, she literally has no CE and assuming shes never fought either at full power her statement does not matter at all.
Yuta + Rika > Jackpot Hakari > Base Yuta > Base Hakari
This isnt a really big debate. Since in the manga its already stated that Yuta is 2nd only to Gojo.
But dont get the wrong idea HAKARI is an extremely powerful sorcerer his reaction speed is faster than lightning as we saw in his fight with kashimo.
But overall the winner is Yuta at an Extreme - Insane Diff. Since manga has already stated that Yuta is 2nd only to strongest.
Now there is ofcourse Yuta's statement that Hakari is stronger than him when he is in a jackpot but this means that Jackpot Hakari is stronger than Base Yuta.And Maki saying thats not true means with Rika Yuta is Stronger than Jackpot Hakari. And Fully Manifested Rika is stated to be the Queen of Curses.
When Yuta has a fully manifested Rika this completely changes. Because not only has Yuta has infinite cursed energy thanks to Rika but he also has an arsenal of cursed techniques at his disposal.
And a fight between Yuta and Hakari totally depends on their DOMAIN EXPANSIONS. And we have seen what Hakari's domain can do. We havent seen Yuta's. If Yuta can fully manifest Rika without any conditions. Then we already know the answer.
Full Power Yuta >/= Full Power Hakari
Edit: If you Disagree its fine. Ofcourse I am no the author. Gege is one of the best writers. It all depends on Gege. But I would like to remind that Gege was planning to put Yuta as the main character before Yuji. So that alone explains Yuta.
What was the condition for Yuta to Manifest Rika? I forgotten it already i haven't read the manga for a while now
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Point: Kashimo was holding back.
Why does no one talk about yuta having sky manipulation? It's a direct counter to hakari.
fr that CT is so underrated i swear. nobody talks about it enough.
It only last for 5 minutes, Hakari can fight indefinitely
And Yuta also gets speedblitzed, he wouldn’t be able to use it properly
@@guilha1506 holy shit you talk so much bullshit in these comments. Speedblitzed? Stfu
@@maximilian7894 In chapter 188, pages 10 and 11, Hakari speedblitzes Kashimo
He can also react to lightning (shown in chapter 186 and 188), Yuta never showed something on this level
@@guilha1506 Yuta getting speed blitzed by hakari is the silliest statement I've ever heard. Also hakari reacting to lightning has already been debunked; it's more likely that the lightning just arked into his arm seeing as how heavenly restriction maki can't even react to mach 3 without attaining enlightenment. Also even if hakari could speed blitz yuta that's not a win con seeing as how he still got bullied by kashimo.
Honestly I kind of interpret Yutas statement about Hakari as a bit of jealousy about the fact that Hakari, like Gojo, has infinite cursed energy ( albeit with conditions).
Yuta probably laments the fact that though his energy is vast, it isn't infinite like his sensei, and that if it were, he'd damn near be the next Gojo already (if not superior), all he'd have to do is do something like maintain Uro's technique around him at all times to make him untouchable.
If Kashimo does better than Ryu against Sukuna before he even activates his cursed techniques then Hakari stomps Yuta
To be fair Kashimo only lost due to some unfortunate circumstances. If Kashimo never went in the water he could have out lasted Hakari's jackpot and one tapped him with his lightning.
@@corvid5530 it wasn't unfortunate, it was clearly because hakari moved his domain expansion into the ocean.
@@ratio8099 it was unfortunate that they were right next to the ocean. If they were anywhere else Kashimo would have won.
At this point, i hope yuta came to fight with yorozu or something. They can't fight sukuna individually
@@corvid5530 I’d debate that if it wasn’t for the water thing Hakari would’ve found another way to win because Gege wanted Hakari to win without heavily injuring Kashimo. Which further proves how much Hakari was holding back because when he’d go lose he would literally speed up to the point of blitzing Kashimo. The only reason he wasn’t going even faster is because he didn’t fully understand how Kashimos chargers worked but the longer the fight the more he’d understand and the more he’d be able to control that fight. Also Hakari just wanted the point s
There is a reason yuta is fighting kenjaku instead of hakari fighting him. The 2nd strongest villain, hakari is fighting uruame💀
I like to think that when yuta said hakari is stronger than him when he's "worked up" I think he means just by himself without rika. Rika could definitely amp up yuta as we see in his fight against ishigori and uro so I still think yuta can beat hakari with rika.
Unspoken JJK rule 101: NEVER BET AGAINST THE RESTLESS GAMBLER!!!
I think the fact that Rika can be taken out of commision gives Hakari the win more times than not for me. Hes stronger, has great speed, cant die unless Yuta cuts off his head which isnt easy by any stretch, and his domain is stronger (Hakaris domain is stronger in a "domain tug of war") AND Hakaris cursed energy is rougher than anyone else’s according to Gojo himself. If they fought, Hakari SHOULD win, but the story would allow Yuta to win since yk… it’s Yuta. I would recommend watching ua-cam.com/video/0meoXPMbfvI/v-deo.html but I still enjoyed this video! Keep em comin Ronin!!
-yuta tanking attacks from ryu who has the highest CE output in CG, if someone like kashimo who cant even use RCT tanking hakari's punches then idk how would that be a problem for yuta?
-yuta has more hax, CTs and Cursed Tools.
-a metal plate could severly damage hakari's head, hes not that durable. rika's blast or maybe some cursed tools might just be enough to destroy his head
@@devrizalalderon3174 ur downplaying hakari and kashimo 😭, both of them have better win conditions against Yuta then Yuta does against them
@@BluntDG1 No they don't.
I think you're all forgetting how absurdly overpowered cursed techniques are. They're most of a sorcerer's strength. Without being totally overpowering or having a unique trait, you're almost never beating a sorcerer with a great CT with just hands.
@@devrizalalderon3174 Yuta wasn’t tanking them though the blast went straight through his arm and he healed it with RCT
@@damondgreen2239 i mean its still very impressive that it only destroyed a couple fingers, most sorcerer would get one shot by it and he did that in BASE while also tanked ice missile from uro. idk whyd you seperate his RCT as if its not part of his durability? isnt that the whole point of hakari's jackpot?
The Hakari downplay, or rather the Yuta wanking in here is CRAZY
Hakari fanboys were really delusional back in the day