Why Geto vs The Disaster Curses Isn't Close
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
- Suguru Geto is one of the most powerful characters in Jujutsu Kaisen, and just like I did with Yuta and Maki before on the channel I will be pitting him up against the disaster cursed spirits in order to determine who would win... and why.
#jujutsukaisen #sugurugeto #mahito #jogo
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Getou would see the disaster curses as an xp farm and proceed to eat them
True
nah fr starting with mahito
"Oh, boy! An all-you-can-eat buffet!"
He cant just absorb them like nothing tho
@@creativename3707 yeah but it would be like fighting the first boss on a video game for XP
God I wish we could see more Geto before Kenjaku, he was such a cool character.
well we will see him right on early in season 2 before he turned to a bad guy
It is possible we see him again. Part of him at least was shown to still be around
@@randomcatname7792 wait when?
@@BG-xn5tu When Kenjaku was talking to Gojo, his body was disobedient for an instant
@@randomcatname7792 OH TRUE I FORGOT
Even if geto doesn’t have a domain, some of his cursed spirits do have simple domains, giving him a bit of an out against them
Exactly. There's a concept called domain collapse, let's say even if Geto gets trapped in a domain, he can just pull out several curses which have their own innate domains to basically overwhelm/overpower a domain resulting in its collapse
Geto easily can fold disaster curses... Choso got destroyed by kenjaku(psuedo Geto) using only grade 4 curses enhanced with Cursed Energy
The problem is, once he gets in mahitos in particular he’s already gone essentially since he can be transfigured upon entrance so he’d have to already have one out and activate it at the same time as or just before mahito in order to get out of dying
@@Kappamen7 Given that Nanami was able to instinctively protect his soul with cursed energy, and Todo survived getting hit by a 0.2 second domain expansion, I think it's reasonable to assume that Geto would have to be kept in Mahito's domain for at least long enough that he could react before it would kill him. One of is own cursed spirits pops a domain, causing a domain collapse or at least disrupting the sure-hit effect long enough for Geto to turn the tide of battle in his favour.
do yall really think geto doesnt have a simple domain? even if he doesnt have s domain expansion, just by the fact hes a experienced special grade he most probably has a simple domain
If Geto would have gotten his hands on the disaster curses than he would have had an even better chance in volume 0.
but that was a different geto
@@UnderratedTay that's exactly my point. The real Geto would have never allied with curse spirits but the four could have given him the advantage over Gojo when he thought only Rika could.
Geto already has good chances but he lost because half of his forces were used and PLOT.
Yuta would of been so so screwed
@@ratio8099 so true bro Geto in reality wouldve won
I noticed that each disaster curse kind of has one thing above the others
Mahito has the best curse technique
Hanami has the highest durability
Jogo has the most physical power
Dagon (probably) has the best domain
That's wrong
Hanami has the durability, yes
Jogo has the highest overall offensive power, highest output and is likely the fastest
Dagon has the highest ce reserves, or at least that's the one thing everyone was pointing out fighting against him
Mahito is kind of an odd one, I wouldn't even count him as one the disaster curses personally, it's more like he was just working with them. He never cared about the rest of them unlike the other 3 who actually mourned each others deaths. But if you want to go down that route, Mahito is essentially the best at everything and most important never stops developing
Mahito: Best CT/Hax + best Domain
Hanami: Highest Durability
Jogo: Highest attack power + speed (maybe tied with Mahito)
Dagon: Highest HP + most CE and i would say his defense is better than Hanamis (although Hanami takes less damage from hits, but Dagons defense with his water avoids to be hit in the first place (unless you got a projection sorcery opponent))
@@berkman2890 mahito has the most haxed and potential.
Jogo doesn't have the highest physical power or the highest AP, he was the fastest though, by the end mahito surpassed them all in pretty much everything though.
Dagon has the highest endurance/CE. He buffs his "toughness" with a lot of CE per Nanami's assessment.
If curses are virus, geto is antivirus. His whole power system is build to take down curse. The fact he was able to absorb a special grade when he was only 2nd year should speak for geto's power.
Not to mention, special grade curses can't win against a special grade sorcerer. When kenjaku said it would be a pain to absorb mahito, he didn't meant power wise but more like annoying. Even yuki said ideal transfiguration isn't a problem. The fact that geto had absorbed one of the registered special grade imaginary vengeful spirit and kenjaku was able to absorb curses like ganeisha, kurorushi tells me absorbing disaster curses won't be a problem. Also the fact he fact that he almost won against yuta and vengeful spirit rika with binding vow sacrificing everything isn't talked enough.
Geto mid-diffs them.
The disaster aren't from the ancient registered 16 Special Grade Cursed Spirits. They're wayy above in power compared to the ones we saw fight Toji, Yuki and Mei Mei etc. Still would agree with you though
It seems you kinda went off on a tangent or you were about to explain something and then just forgot
It's been heavily implied that the 'special grade' system in jjk isn't very accurate, some special grades are wayy stronger than others. So just because geto is a special grade, doesn't mean 'special grade curses cant beat special grade sorcerers' all the time.
lmao yuji, megumi and nobara were grade 1 sorcerers in 3 months even without insane cursed techniques, geto isnt anything special.
those arent normal special grades
Geto boutta go full “Gotta catch ‘em all” on the disaster curses!
Funny to because he captures a cursed spirit he turns them into a ball. Kinda likable a pokeball
Geto is also the only character that Gojo even considered his equal so that alone is a feat that is deserving of a title
Yeah but don’t forget the Gojo who said that was a Gojo who’d yet to learn RCT, so couldn’t use red couldn’t use purple and couldn’t keep infinity going non stop, it’s still impressive but as soon as Gojo ascended to his position as the strongest Geto didn’t hold a candle to him, it’s one of the big reasons he betrayed the sorcerers because Gojo left him behind
Bro is a jobber who got sent sleeping by a single black flash from fodder.
Jogo alone mid diffs
Yeah equal to fodder teen Gojo who got molested by Toji 🤣.
@@josephapsey9965 yknow, my friend gojo just become the strongest sorcerer, let me betray him
@@josephapsey9965gojo becoming 'the strongest' wasn't one of the main reasons
@@rahmanhakim1 it is more complicated than that and he was kind of right, the "jujutsu society" is fucked up and he went against it his own way.
24:44 Geto can easily hurt Mahito. Geto's body houses multiple cursed spirits, as such he should be able to view and distinguish between his soul and that of the spirits he absorbed.
You know that's actually a valid point i have never thought of before
In terms of Hanami's theoretical domain, I feel like their sure hit technique had something to do with the cursed energy produced by the stolen plant life Hanami gathered before they activated their domain. That shit ton of massive cursed energy being turned into a weapon was probably gonna be sure hit once the domain was established.
So just a huge beam of cursed energy?
@@willthomas4516 uhhh yes? Its Jujutsu Kaisen, not Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Not everyone is gonna have some abstract or obscure technique. Some people just blast energy fr
@@willthomas4516 That or a massively reinforced plant growing directly into the body of their target.
@@muntu1221honestly looking at Hanami's various specific abilities theres 3 options.
1. it really is just big beam
2. perhaps like those pods she shot at todo and megumi everybody within the domain will have their energy taken from them and slowly kill them except hanami of course
3. All hostility will be prevented like the field of flowers hanami can create allowing her to attack without fear of getting hit.
@@fancymustache3793 I like the idea that they grow plants in people's bodies and turn them into a part of a forest. Even more ludicrous would be a hanging tree where a vine appears on your neck and hangs you.
But it would be absolutely hilarious if it was just a beam appearing on your body and you just get incinerated.
In regards to geto tanking yuta’s black flash, and only taking minimal damage in JJK 0 its because he summons a octopus/squid tentacle at the last second to absorb most of the impact. His curse summoning speed with these are impressive. He still got sent tho
Its pure love🤓👆
He’s loss was base on plot twist and even kenjaku said if he hadn’t divided his curses he would’ve won
And geto was literally traumatized after riko death
If you think about it the reason Kenjaku made his move was basically due to Geto being THAT GUY, with the right technique, power and connections.
Yup the best CT in the series.
Exactly
I kind of wonder how long Kenjaku has been stalking him.
@@0rion-u since birth, bro was waiting for our geto to die😭
@@MANGAKA__13instead of killing him mind you, didn't wanna take the guy on
Geto almost seems to have a new special grade disaster curse every time we meet him,he could probably just overwhelm the disaster curses with weaker special grades
Nanami was spared this time. God bless
Well well well…
@@ErraticHorrors 😂😂😂
Geto beating the shit out of Mahito and adding him to his team:
If you have any question regarding kenjaku's statement in Shibuya, here's a explanation.
First, Gege discussed this in the context of "conquering, controlling" them over via CSM, not just outright beating them. Two different objectives
Second, the word he uses here is しんどい (shindoi), which can translate to hard time but also to “bothersome/tiresome/annoying”My opinion: I think he worded it in a way so as to allow him to develop Kenjaku’s strength/powers further while not downplaying Jogo or Mahito in Shibuya (based on their portrayal at that time)
Otherwise, he could've worded it more explicitly like 難しい (muzukashii, 'hard, difficult')
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Doesn’t muzukashi mean “I’m embarrassed” too?
@@localmilfchaser6938 bro that's hazukashii
@@elmagnificow8494i wasn't hazukaaskinh
Weird how fans say that Geto vs disaster courses wouldnt be close but Gege himself said that Jogo and Mahito would give Kenjaku himself a tough fight in the fanbook. Kenjaku is way better at curse manipulation and a lot stronger than Geto ever was but people still say that Geto would easily beat them. Sorry but I will take Gege's words over fans of Jujutsu Kaisen. Jogo and Mahito are really underrated because Jogo fought against the 2 strongest characters in the series and Mahito was always on a handicap against Yuji who was his natural enemy.
power scalers man, what can you do... 😭
@@sekzi Yeah powerscalers supposedly are unbiased and use feats to measure a character power but how do you use feats for a character like Jogo when he literally fought the 2 strongest characters in the series. Gojo and Sukuna would easily humilliate characters like Yuki, Yuta, Maki, Toji, Kenjaku, Ryu, Yorozu, Hakari and Kashimo to an extend because maybe his hidden cursed technique could put him on the top 3. Gege literally said that Jogo and Mahito could give Kenjaku a tough fight but for some reason people act like Jogo and Mahito are getting easily beaten by the other top tier. Hell even Yorozu is getting underrated by fans because she lost to 10 shadows Sukuna who found a extremely creative way to use Mahoraga and we saw that Yorozu true sphere and domain combo is extremely broken and could easily beat 99 percent of the cast with that combo.
First, Gege discussed this in the context of "conquering, controlling" them over via CSM, not just outright beating them. Two different objectives
Second, the word he uses here is しんどい (shindoi), which can translate to hard time but also to “bothersome/tiresome/annoying”My opinion: I think he worded it in a way so as to allow him to develop Kenjaku’s strength/powers further while not downplaying Jogo or Mahito in Shibuya (based on their portrayal at that time)
Otherwise, he could've worded it more explicitly like 難しい (muzukashii, 'hard, difficult')
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@@suguru_ghetto This honestly doesn't help because Kenjaku≠Geto. Kenjaku is vastly superior overall.
@@suguru_ghetto Q: Will Jogo, Hanami, or Mahito be under Cursed Spirit Manipulation if he tries to do so?
"He" refers to Kenjaku.
A: If it's a one-on-one fight. But Mahito and Jogo will be tough.
Here's another translation:
Q: Would he be able to use Cursed Spirit Manipulation technique to control Jogo, Hanami, or even Mahito if he wanted to?
A: If they were one-on-one fights. But I think he'd have a really hard time with Jogo and Mahito.
Gege probably means that hard time/tough as in absorbing them, but based on this statement it still implies Kenjaku can't take on all the Disaster Curses at once nor can he take a 2v1 fight against Mahito and Jogo. The question is what can Geto do against them if Kenjaku himself already struggles at absorbing Mahito and Jogo especially since he doesn't even have a domain himself.
7:20 about jogo not killing Maki in shibuya, at the good will event kenjaku instructed hanami not to kill any student because sukuna was interested in one of them and Jogo was still trying to recruit sukuna, so Jogo could be still holding back not kill the students
he cant anyway if maki had 0 ce like Toji only thing that can kill a heavenly restricted superhuman body shown so far is a hollow purple, and that there is the strongest attack in jjk verse apart from infinity slash by sukuna
@@Vladi48mirJogo can definitely kill maki
Biggest cope ever
The only thing that bothers me is that Sukuna showed respect towards Jogo whereas He literally just was unimpressed and one shotted Ishigori. Would that mean Sukuna considers Jogo stronger. Sukuna literally calls everyone weak and insects but he called jogo strong. I think Jogo would be the deadliest curse geto has to deal with.
The way I see it that Sukuna doesn't respect anyone, even gojo. He showed respect to jogo because jogo helped restoring his power without asking for anything in return. Jogo and his humble attitude really removed himself from being a target that usually got decapitated in one panel.
Vs Jogo was pre bath
The power level is much different
Probably, since this is Sukuna were talking about. This is someone who thinks strength is everything. Although Ryu did impress Sukuna a bit, I don't think he left as much impression considering Jogo himself got compared to by sorcerers of the past including Heian Era sorcerers.
@@Brolinit737 That doesn't matter. Sukuna would still know how strong someone is regardless of how much finger he has. So long as he has time to gauge how strong someone is he would know.
He literally says to ryu "I'm impressed, sorey that I took you to lightly, I wont hold back anymore" does that not show respect?
Loved the breakdown! I 100% agree with you on this one
It’s so weird that Geto doesn’t have a domain but I guess you technically don’t need one to meet the criteria “able to destroy a country”
most special grades didn't even have RCT until late so it actually adds up, domains and RCT are just undervalued based on the audience's perspective of the story, their commonality, and how early they were introduced
if you think about it a domain simply amps you to a tier of damage comparable to special grades, because of the "sure hit effect"
simply having one should equate you to being beast level
have we ever seen a sorcerer with a domain that wasn't insanely hyped up? Megumi just having a barrierless "simple" domain justifies everyone claiming his potential, hakari is the 4th best juju student, the worst example we have is the judge guy, but he himself is pretty weird of a sorcerer so...
like the 2nd "best" domain in the series, malevolent shrine, is literally just plain sure-hit effect with a slashing-force as the cursed technique
although if anything, special grades specifically wouldn't need a domain to compare with other special grades, or other domains, which really is the line you'd draw when categorizing someone as special grade
gojo himself dishes out such raw power his domain doesn't even bother dealing damage
He may have a domain but he didn't use because the major part of his power stayed with his men against Gojo and other sorcerers. That why he lost against Yuta.
Because JJK 0 is still fresh.
I imagine if he had an DE it would be something like this: he could use weak curses as shikigamis (just like Dagon's fishes) and the strong curses that possess CTs could use them under the guaranteed hit effect
Idk why I’m late to this, but I think the biggest issue is that Gege didn’t think about domain expansion for volume zero. Hence, why gojo didn’t use it against Miguel
Even without a domain geto would dominate these curses.
Geto has so many cursed spirits with simple and complete domains. He can use them when he gets trapped in a domain and then bombard the opponent with other curses to make them lose their domain. There are endless possibilities of cursed spirit manipualtion.
@@benmartinez5666haha you really think your fodder curses have a chance with disaster curses lmaoo
@@David-th6hj dumbo one hit can just disrupt your domain😂😂. Just like gojo's goal against sukuna's domain was to hit sukuna so that he loses his domain and can't maintain it.
@@David-th6hj or he'll just keep the tug of domains with his curses who has domains and would bully the disasters himself.
@@benmartinez5666 He didn't just "hit" sukuna, he pierced his chest by being physically superior, which fodder curses ain't.
The detail wow ! Really enjoyed this video thanks !
You killed it with the audio yet again. Gonna need to put a goosebump warning on your videos from here on out ronin. This shits dangerous.
we've seen that geto has cursed spirits capable of using domain expansion like the girl one he used against toji or the small pox one kenjaku used on meimei (which was implied that geto had possession of before his death). He could summon one of these and have it domain clash with the disaster curses while he just runs up and finishes them if they were to use their domains against him.
You think those fodder domain expansions stand a chance against Jogo who has 9 fingers sukunas power. Most special grade curses are less than 2 finger sukunas
@@cheatyoutuber285 kenjaku said he was high balling jogo around 8-9 finger sukuna but toji's speed was compared to around a 3 finger sukuna and toji would fold jogo so gojo is more likely around 3-5 fingers. Also if grade 1 and below curses can be enhanced by geto giving them cursed energy why would the same not apply to his special grades. Plus they dont have to win the clash, just stall the sure hit long enough for geto to run up and beat the disaster curses, which wouldn't take long at all, especially if they are currently in a domain clash.
The disaster curses are waay above 2-3 fingers. Keep in mind 1 special grade finger bearer isn't capable of speech or a ton of active thought. Mahito was.
Another feat is Jogo's maximum technique being able to harm 15 finger sukuna, which isn't even his DE. Hanami can tank more damage than Jogo, and Dagon definetly scales above Choso who's blood manipulation is enough to damage Kenjaku (hence why he blocked and dodged).
Also when was Toji compared to 3 fingers??
@@binaryboopsva Not necessarily, Kenjaku said he was highballing jogo around 8-9 fingers and Jogo we know is one of if not the strongest cursed family member (other than arguably true form mahito). We also know that Jogo's speed is one of his strongest stats however Toji, who most if not everyone would agree is faster than jogo, was compared to a 3 fingers sukunas speed when he took megumi out of the building in shibuya to fight him. So its probably more likely jogo is around 4-5 fingers max. Also even if they were way above 2-3 fingers like you said, that doesn't change the fact that geto has multiple cursed spirits with domain exspansion that he could keep summoning to stall their domains while he runs up and finishes them while they are in the doamin struggle. Geto/Geto's body has some of the best physical feats as well, like how Kenjaku was able to react to and dodge multiple peircing bloods as well as a point blank piercing blood while being held down by Yuki's cursed technique and even though thats techinically not geto it is still his body's physical feats which should apply to Geto himseld.
@@aidanpinkney9005 idk why you're citing Kenjaku for Geto's feats, just look at what he did in Volume 0, he was able to fight Yuta and fully manifested Rika at the same time on equal footing
Eh, had you argued it based on 1v2s or 1v 1-1-1-1 rather than an outright 1v4 I'd understand believing certain fights to be a wipe. Given what weve seen however, Awakened Mahito & Jogo alone would give Geto in extreme run for his money, allowing each of them to fight may fair terribly with Geto' best strategy probably being to release an overwhelming amount of Cursed Spirits (His full 6k), dividing them into 2k per Disaster Curse and finding ways to isolate them while theyre occupied.
Overwhelming aggression could pull him a win but he didnt seem to fight like that, he was analytical and allowed the opponent to make their first move so then he could adapt.
If the disaster curses at anytime decided to send him into a gambit of DE', Geto loses.
Dagon uses DE - I can see Geto breaking this by expending the single curse with a DE that we know of in his arsenal, though I believe it was incomplete itd still act to counter the sure hit. Once this happens and Dagon is losing, he can release his DE before death.
Hanami uses DE - We've never seen this but I can see Geto attempting to purely overwhelm this DE with Curses from either the outside depending on whether or not he predicted the next DE... I'll give him this one just to be generous, Hanami expends the domain once it realizes it has the lower hand.
Jogo uses DE - I don't at all see what Geto does from here on out, we know of 0 other curses in his arsenal with a DE, he doesnt have any confirmed DE counters & Jogo is a being thatd be able to tangle with him in hand to hand as well as AP... Even if we DO say that Geto survives this for some reason, he'd have expended a vast amount of CE & curses and would have taken damage... He'd not be strong enough to face up against awakened Mahito at this point imo
I never thought of this match up this should be a fun one
you say that Geto hasn't shown a domain, but Kenjaku showed the cursed spirits he had using a domain expansion in his fight aganist Mei Mei, considering he has a few special grade cursed spirits, he should be able to just use one of their domains if he doesn't have one of his own and if the domain would be too weak just overcharge them with his own curse energy and win any domain battle, so yeah he is getting the win here
While I do think that Geto would win... it wouldn't be an easy fight in the slightest, and if it is literally all 4 of them jumping Geto, he would need to be careful.
The best order for him would be to start with Jogo, and end with Mahito, imo. Blitz Jogo's glass cannon, and remove that artillery piece from play, before turning it on everyone else, either Dagon for the additional Shikigami, or Hanami for the durability, and then proceeding to hammer Mahito down.
Every disaster curse geto beats he adds to his team. So ye, after the first disaster curse he exorcises and takes, he starts to snowball the fight. Bros playing Pokémon while the curses are fighting for their lives
Another thing to consider about Geto not having a domain is if he were to just absorb any of the curses he would be able to have them use their domains against the others
Not really
To absorb them he first has to defeat them and he is not defeating any of them
@@David-th6hj he defeats all of them and would xp farm them lmao.
except mahito because we don't know if geto has curse that can attack soul or has a simple domain attack thing like mechamaru's projectiles..
@@benmartinez5666 jogo whoops him it's not close
@@Naldinho456 you mean jogo > fully manifested jjk 0 rika? Lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Geto would demolish him. Learn to scale yo
The thing about counter domain techniques is like. How effective are they actually?
Like yes they stop the sure hit, but for simple domain and wicker basket the trade off leaves you pretty vulnerable to the enemy who just opened a domain and is probably very skilled. And from what we've seen most domains seem to give the user a passive amp to their stats anyways. So its very possible that even with simple domain, without an opening of his own geto could still lose. Especially if someone like mahito can draw his allies into the domain with him. Which is something we haven't seen in a fight, but i see no reason as to why he wouldn't be able to do that and not attack them
Couple things.
1. The only thing Geto would have to worry about in a domain situation is a sure hit technique like Mahito's, if he can avoid that, there is nothing indicating that he is gonna have trouble beating Mahito up in his own domain.
2. The reason we "know" Mahito can't exclude targets from his sure hit attack is because he says so when fighting Yuji and Todo in Shibuya. If he could he wouldn't have had to use a .2 to avoid Sukuna, he would have just exclusively targeted Todo.
3. I assumed that he doesn't anyway so its not too relevant to the conclusion of the battle anyway
Didn't Gege literally say that the fight between him and Mahito + Jogo would be a difficult win for him 💀
???
That was for Kenjaku not Geto.
First, Gege discussed this in the context of "conquering, controlling" them over via CSM, not just outright beating them. Two different objectives
Second, the word he uses here is しんどい (shindoi), which can translate to hard time but also to “bothersome/tiresome/annoying”My opinion: I think he worded it in a way so as to allow him to develop Kenjaku’s strength/powers further while not downplaying Jogo or Mahito in Shibuya (based on their portrayal at that time)
Otherwise, he could've worded it more explicitly like 難しい (muzukashii, 'hard, difficult')
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That was Kenjaku who also has a domain expansion, reverse curse technique and more technique other than cursed spirit manipulation
@@matthewa1496 that's even worse because kenjaku is stronger.
I think…Only reason Geto isn’t shown with a domain expansion is because Gege hadn’t made them yet at the time of JJK0
Geto finna get a nice boost to his collection
The thing about Geto is his power is always changing with the amount of curses that he has given enough time and curses he could beat basically anyone
his strength compared to another sorcerer is dependent on 1) how strong any of his curses are in relation to other sorcerers, and 2)if he has to fight himself, how strong is his combat compared to others. Special grade sorcerers would always be able to basically one shot any curse ever, the gap in strength is just crazy, so geto's curses wouldn't be able to do much against special grade sorcerers. And hand to hand, even tho geto is good, it isnt better than the other special grades
I don't think the video has to be that long, since the author stated that Kenjaku, who is more powerful than Geto, couldn't beat a combination of Jogo and mahito
Stated that it would be annoying to capture them with csm not that Kenjaku couldn’t beat them
@@maniac7302That means he would be difficult to beat, and Kenjaku significantly outclasses Geto.
Great video as always, you argue things a lot like I and my friends do! I will say that I think you're underselling Yuji's physicals quite a bit. Even while Yuji was stated to be holding back against Yuta, he was actually performing very well against him physically - and it's unlikely Yuta was slowing himself down because:
1) His goal was to end the exchange as quickly as possible, and he even notes that he attempted to blitz Yuji with his initial rush, but failed because Yuji reacted.
2) Yuta held back Rika and his Copy Cursed Technique, sure, but there are implications that he was operating at his normal level of speed, such as his surprise of Yuji dodging his katana swings, even saying "I was sure I sliced him".
If we took this into account, along with the fact that Base Mahito is ~ an actually TRYING Yuji amped by Black Flash, and is outright > this Yuji in ISB according to Akutami in the footnotes (this would also probably apply to Jogo), I think you can make a case for these two stronger Disasters not being overwhelmed by Geto in physicals.
Personally I think all 4 Disasters vs Geto is overkill, and Jogo and Mahito individually could potentially bag a win if they play their cards right and employ Domain at the right time. I think my line of reasoning is solid, but I know I might get jumped by this take considering the Disasters are often heavily underrated by subpar lines of reasoning such as "Jogo has never taken any Ws" or "But Mahito lost to two Grade 1s".
Like I said earlier, great video. Really enjoyed it!
tbh i agree. geto is strong of course but what the disasters (and by disasters i mean mahito) lack in physicals, they make up for with busted hax and domains.
Before this I watched your Geto full potential video and now I want to see how you think the sorcerer war would play out if he had one of them in his arsenal. With different sections of the video tackling different ones probably starting from Dagon to ending with Jogo/Mahito.
I feel like you are not giving the disaster curses enough credit. Hanami and Jogo can use domain amplification, allowing for much higher defense, which allowed Jogo to live a bombardment of attacks from Gojo, and Hanami is already a tank. Jogo is also insanely powerful in his fight with Sukuna, drowning multiple buildings in lava and being able to fire beams of magma that easily rip through buildings. And despite not having the best durability, his pure amount of cursed energy is so great that he regenerated his arms multiple times, made multiple blocks worth of lava multiple times, made two giant magma hands, and was also implied to be able to open a domain on top of it. And he can fly. All this combined makes it very hard for Geto to actually kill him, especially if they play their cards right and have Dagon and Hanami fight Geto in hand to hand while having Mahito attempt to get openings with a high stock of transfigured humans and Jogo flying above causing havoc with lightning. That’s what one of them can do. Dagon, while not being nearly as impressive, is really defensive, and decently strong, so he could probably hold back many of the cursed spirits geto can summon. Now onto Mahito. Mahito, as impressive as you said he was, has one more aspect to him that would take Geto either out or get him very weakened. He can open a .2 second domain. This makes Geto gaining a domain expansion from a disaster cursed spirit null and void, because he most likely couldn’t react to it. This gives them another win con. And for their last, Hanami Mahito or Dagon can open a domain and sacrifice themselves so that even Geto can’t repel the domain. If Geto even had one of their souls to counter a domain, it wouldn’t help with this. If one of the cursed spirits remaining besides Jogo opens a domain and traps Geto inside, Jogo can simply drop a max meteor onto the domain and kill the both of them. Making 3 win cons, I think that they have more than enough to win more than they lose.
Edit: sry for the paragraph I got bored.
One counter I have for the domain expansion win con is this.
Geto has multiple special grades who themselves likely have domains of their own. Example being the small pox deity, that thing sucked ass yet still somehow had a domain, so if Geto sets up multiple domains to counter the special grades then it’s over for them
Geto did not have the smallpox deity and his special grade curses were handled by the likes of todo, who's weaker than naobito, who together with nanami got absolutely destroyed by dagon alone...
@@dreambokeknot really. The thing about this is that geto could easily just amp his already existing special grade cursed spirit with his CE before expanding their domains. Though the point of this isn’t really to win in a domain battle but more to stall the domaine of whatever disaster cursed opened it, best case scenario he gets Dagon who’s domain is unrefined to the degree that an incomplete domain is somehow able to resist it.
Worst case would be Mahito who I don’t feel the need to explain. It’s gonna be a pain in the ass to deal with but I’m confident Geto is fast enough to react
Though I also wanna address this scenario in the first place. I’m aware that we’re being charitable to the disaster curses by not letting Geto have a domain or simple domain but that alone would be extremely unrealistic.
Literally all four of the main special grades sorcerers have a domain or simple domain. Seriously some of the people who aren’t even registered as a special but are same level as such have a domain, Ryu, Uro, Hakari, Yorozu, hell Higuruma the guy who only barely started to do jujutsu and is at best a grade 1 has a domain expansion. It’s absurd to think that someone who’s a special grade and in the game as long as Geto is somehow doesn’t even know how to do something as basic as a simple domain despite having a maximum
That's true but as we've seen before stronger domains can easily defeat weaker ones (ex: Gojo using unlimited void inside of Jogo's domain) so taking that into consideration any of the disaster curses could easily keep their domain up
@@charlesm6819That’s because of refinement but Megumi’s incomplete domain was competing with Dagon’s
Not compiting just acting like a simple domain thats it so no@@maniac7302
Domains are meant to shut off the techniques of whoever is caught in them, right? If Geto was hypothetically caught in any of the disaster curse's techniques, would he still be able to use Cursed Spirit Manipulation?
Yea, we've seem characters use cursed techniques within domains (Mei Mei for example)
It only deactivates techniques when it stops the sure-hit from landing (Like Gojo's infinity)
@@BrokenRonin ahhh, that makes sense. Still, wouldn’t that mean Geto couldn’t use Cursed Spirit Manipulation to stop the sure hit of Idle Transfiguration or whatever the funny Jogo attack that would likely even damage Sukuna?
If he were to like, beat and absorb Hanami first and use Hanami’s Domain, it does raise a few questions. If one of the cursed spirits uses their domain and then get absorbed by Geto, would their techniques get refreshed and then them be able to use their domains AGAIN for Geto?
If not, is Geto having to find a workaround against 4 different domains? How close does he have to get to the group in order to absorb anyone he has weakened?
I think it’s a really fun topic because it isn’t hard to imagine a scenario where the disaster curses win too. If we assume they don’t know about each other’s techniques, he may not know that he needs to avoid a range where their domains would be effective. Geto is perfectly willing to run the ones, he may not know that coming into physical contact with Mahito for a block or something isn’t an option. Playing a ranged game also isn’t the easiest since Mahito and Hanami can both fly and do you think there is a universe in which Mahito successfully turns himself into a rat and runs up Geto’s pant leg?
Very good video, I also agree Geto takes this but it’s definitely a fun topic to think about.
Any “restriction” stated by geto on his limits to consume curses was a bluff as stated in the jujutsu Kaisen 0 movie, the only restriction being that if it has a master(example being Rika) he needs to kill the master in order to just absorb it
Said it in another video but no special grade cursed spirit will be able to take out a special grade sorcerer. Geto(kenjaku) could’ve easily absorbed all of them from the jump but he needed them to do the grunt work so that the people from jujutsu high wouldn’t know he was alive. He also made another mention of how he wanted mahitos technique to grow before absorbing him because a cursed spirit that’s been absorbed ceases to grow so clearly he was just fattening mahito up for the slaughter. He also said he wanted to absorb jogo so I doubt he ever felt threatened in their presence. Plus what reason would they have to allow Geto be so carefree around them when they hate people. Why would they take instructions from him?
the disaster curses are not just your regular special grade cursed spirits. they're unregistered + they can communicate, goes to show that they're beyond your average special grade registered cursed spirits.
@@elmagnificow8494 I don’t think you get it. None of those curses hold a candle to any special grade sorcerer because a grade 1 sorcerer should be able to exorcise a special grade curse spirit. A special grade sorcerer is the real anomaly not a special grade curse. Read further in the manga to get my point. Yuta, Toji, Tsukumo, Geto, sukuna or Gojo could go 1 vs all against the curses.
@@elmagnificow8494 read the manga if you want to understand how broken a special grade sorcerer is.
@dejiodutola5902 I think they're still much stronger than 'normal' special grade curses. Dagon is arguably the weakest disaster curse but he was able to hold off 4 people attacking him, 2 of which being grade 1 sorcerers (Naobito and Nanami) and 1 capable of using a domain expansion, although not completed. Had it not been for Megumi's domain he probably would've succeeded in killing them all before Toji showed up.
I do think Geto still has a chance at beating them, but it really depends on what types of curses he has access to and if they'll hold off the disaster curses / provide him with some kind of counter to their abilities
This is such an oversimplification lmao. It's true in general that special grade sorcerers are stronger than special grade spirits, but the fact is that special grade is an uncapped grade so it isn't universally true. Even the finger bearers are considered special grade curses, but any of the disaster curses especially Mahito and Jogo would absolutely shit stomp them with ease. So you can't assume that any special grade sorcerer auto beats any special grade curse, it's just not that simple.
I feel like Geto has to have some sort of counter domain technique at least. He know Gojo has one so for him to believe he could beat him with Rika empties he would have a counter to unlimited void.
Well in a domain battle refinement is a big part a mahito has one of the best domain feats in the series so canceling out with a another domain is not a question but geto could win
This. People underestimate Mahito SO much for crappy reasonings like losing to Yuji, but he is honestly the hardcarry against Geto here and could probably beat him individually if he played every single card right.
@@imadmatt22 True, although I do think Getou would beat him individually even if Mahito was at the top of his game, it is fair to say that Mahito would be the trump card of the disaster curses.
@@Hachiimane I respect that and by no means am I undervaluing Geto here, he's incredibly strong, but I disagree regarding Mahito. Geto has no viable wincon against him. He's incapable of hurting his soul, which means he lacks the ability to weaken him for Cursed Spirit Manipulation. He also has no counter for Self-Embodiment of Perfection, and because Akutami stated that ISB Mahito > Shibuya Yuji amped by Black Flash, and that same Yuji without the Black Flash amp and Killer Intent could react numerous times to Base Yuta's movements (who should be stronger/faster than his Vol 0 self), it's pretty easy to argue that ISB Mahito has the physicals to keep up with Geto.
Like I said though, I respect your stance either way.
Also we don't really know if Getou has a domain. We know Kenjaku does though. Kinda makes this battle more complicated when you project the technique's applications of a 1000 year old onto Getou and say "yeah, Getou can easily do that".
@@machinaowl910 I think since Domain Expansions are tied to your Innate Domain (which is connected to your soul), that characters would have their own individual Domain Expansions. But depending on how the next few chapters unfold (including Sukuna, trying to avoid spoiling it for you just in case), I might be wrong.
I heard it was confirmed that the Domain Expansion Kenjaku uses against Yuki is Geto's, so he has that in his favor. Does Geto know reversed cursed technique though?
When Nekamaru fights Mahito, Kenjaku implies Nekamaru might bring Mahito to the latter's full potential. I get the impression that Kenjaku is confident he can handle a full-power Mahito. Same when he laments not being able to absorb Jogo. So that helps our speculation.
Man I love videos like this one.
in regards to the domain expansions being possible win cons for the disaster spirits, in the hiddden inventory arc geto used a cursed spirit with an innate domain which could be enough to remove the surehit effect right? just a thought
Based on the wiki it should be enough to buy time like how Yuki used her Simple Domain for Kenjaku's DE. It wouldn't be enough to have a tug of war situation though, the domain would probably be overwhelmed rather quickly.
I honestly refuse to believe Geto doesn't have some counters to Domains. He's classified as the pinnacle of Sorcerery.
@ATPR he's not really much of a pinnacle of sorcery and more like an anomaly. Still, he should at the very least be capable of simple domain or having his own special grade spirits that have D.E
Geto loses those fodder curse spirts are getting cooked by jogo and mahito
16:44 I like how Kenjaku did the same thing against Choso but except Kenny didn’t take any damage
love the videos best Animetuber on the site
would love to see more Choso
Can't mahito transfigure the curses geto uses to turn his army against him, as well as dagon being able to swallow hundreds of them whole?
The disaster curses can't even be compared to every other special grade. Jogo's maximum technique alone can do ridiculous damage. If Mahito is comparable to Aoi Todo and Yuji who already can handle Special Grade Curses (Todo in JJK Zero so Todo and Yuji can definitely do so in Shibuya and struggle heavily against Mahito), then Geto cannot allow himself to get hit and his DE is incredibly fast and spontaneous. Hanami is more durable than Vengeful Spirit Naoya who can withstand attacks from Awakened Maki. If they jump Geto like they did Gojo, god help him because I don't see how he wins. Maximum Uzumaki in the manga and movie doesn't seem as impressive as Jogo's maximum technique seeing as how 15 FINGER SUKUNA said it would hurt IF it hit. The same Sukuna that said with 3 fingers he soundly loses to Mahoraga with whom Jogo is somewhat comparable in attack potency to. Read from chapters 116 onwards.
See what I'm getting at? Geto summons a bunch of curse spirits, they get deleted quickly. He summons special grades with more curse spirits, they get deleted by the disaster curses with minor difficulty. Maximum Uzumaki is a gamble because it consumes curse spirits while Jogo was implied to be able to open a domain right after using his maximum technique but chose not to. (Sukuna asked him). Geto versus one or two would probably be a great match but against all four? I don't see him taking this.
it wouldn't even matter, geto's physically much more faster, stronger and versitile than any of them. plus he's smarter in his prime, that's why geto didn't spam summon cursed spirit to fight yuta like he did in toji. you're underestimating geto's capabilities. and in addition, geto could literally just outrun jogo's maximum meteor with his fastest cursed spirit, and even if it's a fight using their average curse technique, geto could literally just spam mini uzumaki if he wanted to. geto's curse manipulation technique is very lethal in a versitile way.
Or he doesn’t even have to fight? He can just make them turn into the cursed spirit balls and eat them right when he seems them. His cursed technique itself is a direct counter to all curses.
@@Mia_2512 Kamo said that "He's faster than anything, but in terms of toughness.. he barely compares to that thing." The text appeared over a panel of Hanami
Any credibility this comment had was lost when comparing Jogo to Mahoraga...
You completely neglected the fact that Geto is physically gifted.
He is physically stronger than Yuji in Shibuya (before he fought Mahito). The way Kenjaku can dodge piercing blood or even beat Choso easily using Geto body is one of the proof for that.
Mahito's instant DE one-shots.
i would have liked to see kenjaku vs toji, any good videos on it?
Does geto even have that much cursed energy reserves or RCT to take down the 4 of them??.. because I don't think jjk 0 can weakened Shibuya mahito that much and it's more than likely that each disaster curses has more cursed energy than geto..plus we have to keep in mind that most of the curses of vol 0 geto were grade 2 or lower those curses cannot fight a domain battle with either of them..
Geto had at least 2 special grade curses, possibly more. The one that he fought yuta with and the one that todou supposedly beat.
@@hanoi6598you can also add the Buddha with headless person as a necklace
Question not related to the video subject: We were told that Sukuna's fingers were "indestructible cursed objects" and he gains his strenght back for each finger he eats. When Yuji and Megumi first encountered a special class curse (a finger holder), Sukuna destroyed him to get that finger back and ate it; so I wonder why when Sukuna fed Megumi with one of Itadori's fingers to transfer himself to this new host he left 15 fingers back in Itadori's body and did not destroyed him to get them back as the 1 finger cursed he killed? Judging by his later feats, seems he transfered along with his power to Megumi, so do the 15 fingers inside Itadori hold any power to Sukuna or they got drained and are now 15 useless indestructible objects stucked inside Itadori?
Probably digest
Think of it as putting a certain amount of water in different containers. Each of sukunas fingers is 1 cup of water, but in the finger he gave megumi he just put 15 cups worth of water in a single container
@@m4z391 that's my head canon too
They are indestructible, but I think they just fused back with Sukuna. Probs.
The dying light background music hits hard
Love that u use Dying Light music
They have reversed cursed technique too. Geto definitely has simple domain or hollow wicket basket
im js confused because let's say if mahito activates his domain opens his domain for .2 seconds wouldn't it just be faster then simple domain bc what happened with todo
He most likely didn't have a domain expansion, but he definitely has to have a simple domain or something to counter a domain expansion.
I just disagree, Geto It's not shown to have anywhere near the same amount of attack potency as the disasters or durability is some of them. Because Kajaku the sourcer was potentially over a 1000 years old can do all these things in Geto body doesn't mean Geto knows how to use his body to that effisince or his curse technique.
Not a nanami getting cooked video colour me impressed Br
I don't think that Jogo is a glass canon personally, maybe he's not as durable as his buddies, but he still did take blows blue infused palm strikes from Gojo and a red to his face without dying, I'd say that's pretty darn impressive (albeit, Gojo wasn't really going all out of course, but it is still *Gojo*)
You forgot that domains neutralize cursed techniques, so he just need to absorb one of the disaster curses, unleash their domain/ domains and mahito would become vulnerable
Geto: it’s my lucky day!
This is the same guy that says megumi is beating geto 💀
Yh bro geto is underated
Teen geto vs megumi
Teen geto not prime geto
@@Pqihtyieojn12even that is a stretch
Jogo: Casually tags Naobito, the stated fastest sorcerer other than Gojo. Gets called straight up strong by Sukuna
JJK Powerscalers: I'm going to ignore that
something you ignored is that naobito lost a lot of his speed when he got his arm cut off. They didnt mention it in the anime tho, just manga.
Were domain expansions used at all or even mentioned during the 0 chapters? Because I honestly wonder if the concept of domains and domain expansions had been finalized during the time of writing the 0 chapters
No, Gege hadn’t thought about them yet
In my opinion, nobody in all of the JJK verse besides Gojo and Sukuna is able to take all of the disaster curses at once. In a 1v1 or 2v1 there's still room for negotiation, but in a 4v1 the curses would win. All they'd have to do would be to pull the opponent in their domains one after another (first Dagon opens his domain, then Jogo, then Mahito,then Hanami or vice versa)
With the opponent probably only able to open up their domain once a day due to the massive consumption of cursed energy, he'd be unable to lead multiple domain battles. Then it's either Falling Blossom Emotion or a Simple Domain, or his ass get's idle transfigured.
do we have any evidence that domains can work in collaboration to outperform another's domain? wouldn't that make any duo with a domain instantly winnable against any individual sorcerer regardless of rank?
and also even if we do assume bs that domains work like that, geto doesn't use a domain, he uses cursed spirits with domains, so he's likely able to have waaaaaaaaaaaaay more domains active, or active at once, compared to the disaster curses, so the argument still doesn't hold up
also mahito can't exclude individuals in his domain from surehits, at least as far as we know
Nanami catching a break today💀
He’s been working overtime for way too long lol
You should do Kashimo vs Disaster Curses
if this dude had a domain it'd LITERALLY be the Eclipse from Berserk verse
cursed spirits, thousands of them as the auto hit
Funny you say that....
I don't think Geto would be able to take on all disaster curses at the same time. Individually? Yes. You are seriously underestimating these disaster curses. Mahito and Jogo together would probably give him a hard time already.
I think you're just underestimating get, mahito and jogo would definitely give him the hardest time, much less a 4v1
but the issue of numbers gets resolved since his arsenal allows him to stall each curse individually with his own grade 1's/special grades, to isolate 1v1's
not that any one, or likely any group of cursed spirits by themselves is taking the disasters out, but he only needs to keep them occupied for a short while, and then pick them off, the numbers advantage is severely weaker against geto, which is a matchup thing, and their physical prowess is arguably on a lower level
@@ghetoknight7801Jogo solos him. Stop glazing this fodder
@smtandearthboundsuck8400 ( ANIMATION ONLY, I HAVEN'T READ THE MANGA PEOPLE! )in case you are being legit and not memeing, *IF* ( which he probably can ) he can't straight up absorb jogo like with the rest of the c spirits shown ( exception of Toji's worm which was bound with him ) he'd probably summon a shit ton of c spirits on his own distracting jogo the least, giving him time to think and act accordingly. Speedwise, which is very important, jogo is probably faster ... tho Dagon was floored by toji being barely able to see him ( IN HIS DOMAIN! ) and prime geto was keeping up with toji ... I would argue that jogo is NOT faster than jogo in his own domain ... so jogo potentially is more or less on par with geto speedwise AT BEST! Unless jogo pulls the fire pillar on geto's head like he did with gojo in season one ( and if it works ) ... I don't see jogo winning 🥱 ( I hate geto btw, he is literally me and characterwise and I despise me )
I forgot about jogo's domain ... that could change the battle completely ... i feel like by draining him since he used a domain, geto ( being experienced and smart ) would rush him with everything he had ... giving him still a chance potentially ( if I don't respond to a comment I haven't seen any notifications or I died xD )
think of it like this Mahito = jungler or assasin basically core player in team
Hanami = Tank
Jougo = Fighter
Dagon = Mage
and Kenjaku is the marksman which wait let his team mate to tank all the beating then he jumped in to last hit lol
Funny how you consider Jogo a fighter when Jogo can't even tank as much hits as the rest of the Disasters.
@@shurishuritherock that's why i put Hanami as Tanker ( HELLO?) and fighter isn't suppose to tanky but only come in and fight deal damage in early game and mid game. anyway i'm just bring out the moba game reference to this disaster curse team.
@@shurishuritherock
Hello
Who other than hanami and Dagon can take 5 black flashes from yuiji + a beating from todo and yuji + a hit from playful cloud and stay alive lmao
Mahito lost after 3 black flashes u know.
Megumi VS Choso would be super interesting 👍
" With this treasure i summon " and thats the end
Domain expansions probably didn't even exist as an idea when volume 0 was being made
The thing about Jogo's speed is that he should be relative to Naobito, who is second only to Gojo, putting him above Geto
I don’t think so. I still think Naobito is faster than everybody during the Shibuya Incident until he lost his arm and suffered several damage wounds, which allowed Jogo to trap him.
@@SatoruGojo-ts3kuwhat makes you think they’re faster? Noabito > naoya. And naoya was faster than maki (she simply timed him, not outspeeded him). Author literally calls noabito the second fastest, there’s no disputing this.
Geto had so much potential. Kenjaku is pretty much just geto if he had RCT + a domain, with some extra hax along with it. Max potential geto would definitely be in the top 5 of the verse
no max potential geto would not beat takaba sukuna gojo toji maki kenjaku yuta kashimo yuki or anyone relative to them so no
@@user-tl9rj1sf3fMax potential Geto would likely beat Yuta, Maki, and maybe Toji
@@maniac7302 i think max potential geto= RCT, Domain ,Rika, Stronger curses and more CE yuta maybee if you take what i said and stretch it but toji and maki dog walk this man stronger faster hae "Experienced RCT" so they know how to counter it and he's not getting a barrierless domain
@@user-tl9rj1sf3fOk but Geto was confident he could beat the entirety of jujutsu society with Rika and no Toji and Maki aren’t much faster
@@user-tl9rj1sf3f lol no. Toji and Maki are by far the most insanely wanked characters in JJK it's not even close. Max potential Geto is definitely stronger than them. They aren't even top 5 and they are maybe at best top 10 if you highball them so it isn't saying much that he beats them anyways.
22:09 would probably just be able to break out of the Domains. If we assume he doesn't have one (which, if Kenjaku has the same body and cursed energy as Geto, we can assume that the domain he uses would be Getos domain, but a more advanced version because his skill with Domains, right?), then we can assume he'd prepare in the likelihood that he would prepare for this. He could even just leave a special grade somewhere in hiding to break the domain from outside the barrier
Domains are specific to the soul, so womb profusion ain’t Getos DE it’s purely Kenny’s
Can we see a vid about Meguna (sukuna/megumi)
I'm quiet curious what if someone else ate the cursed spirit ball that Geto gets when turning curse spirits into the ball
The downplay of the "Disaster Curses" in this video was insane........
That speed scaling used was horrendous, especially when we literally have Jogo casually outmaneuvering Naobito who is stated to be faster than "Special Grade Sorcerers" like Geto, Yuta and Yuki with ONLY Gojo being an exception.
Now people want to ignore what is stated in the manga, huh?
Dagon also said he could damage Toji with the sure hit of his "Domain Expansion" if Megumi wasn't there nulifying it.
Scaling "True Form Mahito" to Yuji is NOT correct because Gege already stated that he would DEMOLISH Yuji if he wasn't weakened.
Hanami is STATED to be WAY more durable than "Vengeful Spirit Naoya". A character who STRAIGHT UP tanked multiple punches from "Awakened Maki".
There's also other stuff like Sukuna saying that Jogo is strong compared to EVERYONE he fought in the last 1000 years (which should include powerhouses from the Heian era).
The same Sukuna who one shotted Ryu in a second without saying anything btw...
Gege Akutami said that Kenjaku would have trouble dealing with Mahito and Jogo in a 1v1 scenario.
But of course... neither of these arguments were used in the video.
Now, a genuine question... If Geto's physical stats are so incredible then why did Panda tank MULTIPLE attacks from him without suffering much damage, with Geto EVEN saying that that was "close"? Just curious...
"That speed scaling used was horrendous, especially when we literally have Jogo casually outmaneuvering Naobito who is stated to be faster than "Special Grade Sorcerers" like Geto, Yuta and Yuki" - He only outmaneuvered him because Naobito was exhausted and injured. The narrator tells us that he would've been the fastest (next to Gojo) if he still had both his arms. We don't know how that scales to the other special grades.
"Dagon also said he could damage Toji with the sure hit of his "Domain Expansion" if Megumi wasn't there nulifying it." He couldn't. Doesn't matter if he said so, we know sure-hits can't target Maki and Toji. Also given how much damage it did to Nanami, Naobito and Maki, I'm sure he would've been fine if it did somehow hit him.
"Hanami is STATED to be WAY more durable than "Vengeful Spirit Naoya". A character who STRAIGHT UP tanked multiple punches from "Awakened Maki"." - It depends. His durability increases the faster he goes. Normally it's much lower than Hanami's. Also Maki's punches cannot ever exorcise cursed spirits because she has no CE. It's not necessarily a feat for one to tank a punch from her.
"The same Sukuna who one shotted Ryu in a second without saying anything btw..." Sukuna used Dismantle once on Jogo for not bowing low enough and it cut the top of his head clean off. He could've killed Jogo right then and there if he wanted to. With Ryu he was actually _trying_ to kill him the 1st time and apologized for underestimating him.
Everything else is right tho.
I think the statement that Kenjaku would have a hard time fighting Jogo and Mahito says it all
You seem to forget Yuji was weakened as well. Idk that sounds like death of the author to have Yuji one shot true form Mahito while saying he would wreck Yuji. Unless he meant 1v1 100% which I would agree with there.
I don’t think u realize that once he gets atleast one, he starts to snowball as he can now use that same curse as his own
@@xxcridonxx7614 even then the video is scaling everything wrong which is the main argument of this post. He is correct, the uploader did an awful job of scaling.
I’d argue Jogo has more impact than you gave him. His wide range attacks limit Geto’s cursed spirit usage pretty severely.
Jogo is alone Defeating Geto
Wish we got to see more of the disaster curses tbh
Special grade sorcerers are on a different level tbh. Once you reach that maki/toji level, you're a step above and kinda entering that realm of higher tiers of power.
I'd say the disaster curses win purely because of Mahito's all-or-nothing 0.2 second domain
Todo survived it, Geto should easily. 1 touch isn't going to kill him, 2 different grade 1 sorcerers survived a single touch, geto is in a different league.
@@JottoHearthStonegeto dies
@@ofimportance5458Nanami and todo didn’t
24:43 thats only IF geto doesnt have a curse that can hit the soul
Also if you want to counter the immediate domain opening geto could use kuchisake onna, small pox deity, kurorushi or any other special grade and respond with their own domain
who would win the tug of war?
I lowkey thought you were gonna make geto fight nanami 💀
This is going to be interesting
jogo gets hit by geto with playful cloud and sees *"You have been autofilled to RED team!"*
The question in essence to me, is how does Geto deal with their domain expansions? We've never seen Geto's expansion so it's impossible to say if he does or does not have one, so unless he knows anti-domain techniques he can't do much against the DC domains; Specifically Self-Embodiment of Perfection.
he should be able to use falling blossom emotion
@@V1ralB1ack this is all under the assumption that it was shown to him by Gojo or another big 3 clan family member, as Geto himself is not one
Summon cursed spirits outside of the domain to break the barrier is possible
Use a curse with a simple domain to mitigate the domains effects and stomp them from there too
But yeah self embodiment of perfection would still be an issue
Summon cursed spirits that have their own domains.
Uhm, did you forget the part where Gege confirmed that Kenny beats Jogo and Mahito with high difficulty? And that's just Jogo and Mahito alone.
Summon 1000 curses to separate and hold off 3/4 curses, focus on one and use his yuta/rika level physical stats to beat it. Then repeat that tactic 4 times. Its just so weird how crazy strong the special grade sorcerers are my god
Then you realize the disasters would smoke those curses easily...
@@dreambokek if we‘re scaling him on his strongest point he could use the 1000 curses to distract them even if it’s only for a short period of time and still would have enough curses to just smoke Jogo and Mahito with Uzumaki. Plus he also has special grade curses who would definitely put up a fight against the disaster curses
@@gggallin8279 1000 curses is unrealistic to use in a fight that would result into you having a hard time fighting too
Personal I think Geto should have a domain expansion it makes sense like why wouldn't he, I wish it is confirmed if he has a domain or not
Geto is severely underrated
I’d argue that Geto would counter the sure hit effect of their domains with the sheer number of his cursed spirits. At the very least, he could use that method until he takes out Dagon or Jogo and then he could use their domains
if he summoned a curse spirit to block a unerfed rika amped yuuta black flash point blank right before the fist hit his face, he can probably block the domain on sheer speed
isn't that what toji does to his curse spirit domain?
@@ghetoknight7801I mean I’m pretty sure the cursed spirit domain Geto used on Toji wasn’t a full on sure hit