The train doors are apart of Hakari's base Innate Technique. He can conjure anything to do with train stations, as per the basis of the Pachinko game his Technique is based off of.
@@OkRoomer123- ok it did very little to Yuji, regardless my point is it seems pretty useless considering he didn't use it against Kashimo when Kashimo was kicking his ass
I think an important factor is that Yuta's fight lasted 5 minutes after unleashing Rika. That's just 49 seconds more. At that point Uro was already taken out and they were all very tired, on the other hand Hakari would be at best condition.
On the other hand they also fought Yuta prior to those 5 minutes. Now this is just an assumption but I think it’s safe to assume that they were also fighting one another before Yuta got there which would imply draining their CE reserves even further. So I think if they’re fresh, they should be fine for a couple or a few jackpots
@@Andrew1webb None of them were fighting each other before Yuta arrived. They established there was a deadlock between the 4 special grades before Yuta tilted the board by killing Dhruv and everything went crazy.
Wasn't rika still summoned by the end of the fight so it couldn't have lasted the full five minutes also uro was taken out due to cursed energy burnout from her domain expansion
The actual translation about hakaris domain said that his domain rain’s supreme in domain tug of war. He’d run their pockets if they pull out their domains.
Because of the sure hit condition not being an attack most sorcerors focus on the sure hit skill as a way to land sire kill attack since it cant be avoided which limits the technique... i think it was gojo who explained that
@random0activity yup Deadlock basically means not one of them can go after another one cuz the others would come after them in their weaker state after the battle
A battle between Hakari, Ishigori, and Todo (with a power boost) would be a joy ride. The three most eccentric characters in the series having a full blown battle royale just sounds like pure unadulterated chaos.
@@fernandoreimpell2818 Hakari's domain not only has insanely fast activation but it is stated that it ins incredibly powerful in a domain tug of war. Not only would they be last to activate their own domain but Hakari holds an advantage in the clash making theirs the most likely to be overpowered.
I wouldn’t call Kuroruichi weak, Yuta can actively manipulate positive curses energy something that Hakari can’t do, that’s why he made Kuro look weak.
@@Niko_Suavey Kuro is simply fodder, just compare its fight against base Yuta with Ryu vs Base Yuta Kuro was outpaced, had a slower attack speed, was send flying with an attack and had to use its technique to block Yuta’s slash. Base Yuta with his sword alone was dealing with the swarm of cockroaches and even with his EYES CLOSED was able to block Kuro. The only thing that made him struggle was the sword blasting cockroaches Meanwhile, Ryu was pressing Yuta and send him flying with his output, then Yuta reflected one of his blasts and lost his hand when trying to punch his face because of another blast Latter, Kuro is almost one shot by a blast from Ryu after using his domain (Uro tanked this + a barrage of punches from Yuta and Rika + Dhruvs technique + Kuro ripping her arm)
well yea because it's very situational in most cases it wouldn't matter at all, it only mattered for that fight because Kashimo was conveniently weak to water and they were right next to the ocean
@its_ fif_ he didnt move his domain he opened a domain to allow for escape megumi cant even make a barrier yet he needs a solid construct to help maintain the barrier because he cant amd thats stated during the fight with reggie after the fight with dagon so how would he move it
My theory on Hakari (and why he is more OP): A possible mathematical basis for Hakari having 100% chance to get a Jackpot each time he opens his domain: 1) Note that Hakari said he "never had to go beyond 30 tries" to get a jackpot. This referred to rolling inside the domain (to get the different colors and get the jackpot. This means from his history, he will always get a jackpot between rolls 1-30. 2) Lies are part of sorcerer techniques. His domain "says" the probability of getting a jackpot in the gambling game is 1/239". Note that it refers only to the game itself and not about Hakari's exact probability. These are two different things. Hakari knows his own "luck". You and I will have different levels of luck while playing a game which has some "range of probability". There is such a thing as "Baysian Probability" which is so far the best probability framework that we have when talking about probabilities of probabilities. This simply means that one's actual probability depends on one's history and each probability should (to remain accurate) be updated regularly. This is how this can be applied to Hakari's technique (not farfetch since the author refers to very advanced physics and maths): Hakari's probabibility history states that he does not have to go over 30 rolls to get a jackpot. This means at 30th roll, Hakari has 100% chance to get a Jackpot. His probability looks like: 1/30, 2/30, 3/30...30/30 or 1 (100%]). Hakari "lied" about how his jackpot works and misleads the opponent to think it is alwayx 1/239. In reality, Hakari is simply opening 30 boxes one of which contain his Jackpot. Therefore, he will always get a jackpot everytime he opens a domain.
He might not be lying, revealing your technique makes it stronger so mabe by saying its 1/239 it actually just improves his odds aswell as him being super lucky
@@oreki8707 unfortunately nothing in what was shared directly by Hakari or within the notes from the domain info dump says he is guaranteed a jackpot everytime. In fact, the rules shared to opponent says otherwise. That is why there is a need for an underlying rule/conditions for the effectiveness of the domain.
A thing to note about Hakari is that he is a brilliant fighter, he knows his domain in and out and knows when to risk and when to play it safe and based on yuta’s statements of Hakari, he can pretty much guarantee safety and get jackpot after jackpot, only when against another brilliant fighter like Kashimo does he have to really “rely” on his luck. He’d solo Sendai almost easily, not saying that he’s that strong but he just has better ways of dealing with Sendai colony.
Since ishigoris granite blast isn’t a technique but just a raw output of cursed energy he has practically no cooldown on blasts, he shot of a huge one right after opening his domain.
@@DarmawheelWhat about the finger bearers ? They were able to discharge raw cursed energy in the shape of arrows and they were both stated to lack a cursed technique
Thumbnail looks like it unleashed a domain all on its own looks so good and Hakari would definitely have trouble with Curse Roach King since he don't play gacha or pachinko lol
According to the manga, Kashimo implies (in an admittedly very missable piece of dialogue) that Hakari’s domain technique likely can’t be nullified in a domain clash due to the nature of it-as the sure-hit move isn’t damaging in any way (and is way to fast to use Simple Domain against), the trade off is that Hakari’s domain can’t be negged as a result. Meaning that, even in a domain clash, Hakari’s Jackpot can still come into play, and it makes me think that he has counters in play for those trying to destroy it from the outside (seems pretty likely, given he’s attended the joint festival in the past before being suspended, so multiple opponents probably isn’t anything new for him to deal with). Also, I think it’s fair to point out that Hakari was completely immune to Kashimo’s shocking cursed energy, something that staggered Panda significantly even in his gorilla form, so certain attacks like the swarm of cockroaches might not even be able to get through his Jackpot aura at all once he activates it (and might get handled by the serrated edge of his CE trait alone). Not to mention that we’ve seen Hakari’s come up with creative ways to counter his weaknesses, like removing both electricity and poison from his head before it could even reach his brain, so his fight IQ alone is seriously no joke.
@@rashawnhoward564 his is most likely more refined since it's so fast so it would just overpower most peoples domains if he used a domain expansion in someone's domain expansion
Hikari didn't really use much intelligence to stop himself from be killed by electricity he just sent CE to his head same with the poison the CE healed him and removed the poison automatically. Him changing the location of his domain was a big brain move though
Dont forget hikari is able move his domain as well i think it was gojo that explained the diffence between sure hit and sure kill early on too saying socerors focus on the sure kill too much in this era which makes sense gojos domsain is also sure hit not sure kill
Hakari still has the doors and the balls he conjures with his cursed technique. I think he didn’t use them against Kashimo to avoid killing him. Remember Hakari didn’t want to kill Kashimo. I guess that remains the same here in Sendai though.
I think i saw a post on twitter, with Hakari's domain being revealed, that it was described with japanese kanji as a domain, that can not be overwritten by an other domain, because of the binding vow which takes an effect, since Hakari's domain is harmless to opponents in it. So, theoretically, if Uro and Ishigori were to open their domain simultaneously like with Yuta, i don't think that Hakari would have lost his jack-pot.
As much as l know that the translations can be confusing, hakari being able to win ALL domains due to his harmless one is weird to me, does the same applies to higuruma domain? or all of the old styled domain expansions from the past?
@@kakashihatake6176It seems like when Domains clash the "sure hit effect" is whats cancelled out. If this is the case, and Hakari's sure hit effect is simply someone gaining knowledge of his domain, then his actual domain should still function.
There's one thing I'm not sure about. Due to Yuta having an almost bottomless amount of cursed energy and reinforcing his body to defend against Ryu, then wouldn't jackpot hakari with a literal bottomless amount of cursed energy and auto reverse curse techniques be able to take the blows better the yuta. Plus considering Yuya using his cursed energy to make up for his lack in physical strength while jackpot hakari would have both good physical strength and infinite cursed energy to reinforce it with
it´s different,they may have different amounts of CE but not the same output,ishigoris attack should do more damage than hakaris because his output is the greatest.
@@javiersobarzo685 yeah I get that but I mean in the defence department. I'm wondering if hakari will have stronger reinforcement than yuta therefore be able to take more hits
@@Fredable no... it's similar to how Ishigori had more curse output. Hakari's defence and RCT becomes passive after he hits a jackpot, so he can be reckless about how he attacks knowing he's immortal for 4 mins, but the passive enhanced defence and rct aren't the best, the Jackpot simply taps into his potential for curse energy control. So Yuta could still be above him. Say, if Yuta's rct and enhanced curse energy gives him a defence of 100, but Hakari's forced rct and enhanced curse energy gives him like a 90, then regardless of how infinite his curse energy is Yuta would naturally have better defence and curse energy control overall. So an attack that could break Yuta's arm would completely rip Hakari's arm off. Do we think Kashimo could hurt Yuta with his lightning the way he hurt Hakari? I think not. In theory, Hakari could keep going but in practice, his lack in skill/control over positive curse energy would cost him because unlike Yuta who could focus his enhancements solely on an arm or his sword, Hakari just has to hope that his Jackpot can handle the damage. Funny enough, it's the skill level/control that makes Gojo better than Yuta despite Yuta having more curse energy reserves overall. It's also why Kashimo was never pushed back for long in their fight, whenever Hakari seemed to get the upperhand, Kashimo simply adapted with his higher level of skill. If Hakari fights the way he did vs Kashimo, he would undoubtedly lose without actually killing any of the 3 sorcerers. Old guy is a bonus lol. He's so reckless with his domain that, he'll get knocked out of it and have it canceled out, and without the infinite curse energy, he can't loop domain expansions. He'll get stomped out in base.
@revenant RONIN explain how yuta can remove hikari from his domain without activating his own and once activated hikari can move his domainunless yuta can kill him before domain expansion hikari has the upper hand as once he hits a jackpot his cursed energy is fully charged even whil spamming rct yuta used rct a few times andnuro and ishigori saw the notable difference and the bottom of his vast supply rika will recharge ulyuta once so for 4min they are effetcively equals hikaris infinite cursed energy will run out before rika does and to methats yutas best time to kill him in a two on one with rika while hikari tries to jackpot again if not yuta smoked
@@micahmcfadden8082 When 2 domains of a similar rank are expanded, they cancel each other out and can't be used for a long while. In Yuta's case, it was a a three way domain expansion that canceled his own domain out. In fact, it's implied that Kashimo's domain would've canceled out Hakari's at the very least. Hakari goes "domain expansion" and immediately everybody else also expands their own domains and Hakari is forced to stay in his base state for the rest of the fight, he doesn't have RCT and his CT that uses the train doors and his enhanced punches won't do much of anything to those guys that Yuta fought. And as far as Yuta vs Hakari goes, it's also a stomp in Yuta's favour as well. In this case, the domains may not even cancel out, it'll become a domain battle like Jogou vs Gojou and Yuta would be Gojou in this case lol. If it cancels out, Yuta still stomps... In fact, Hakari vs Rika alone would be a high diff fight let alone Yuta on top of that.
I feel like people forget the fact that other characters also have domain expansion when discussing Hakari. I mean yeah, he's fucking awesome and Jackpot is one of the coolest powers in JJK but... He could just get countered... And if we're just banking on an ability that can just get bended if the other character is better at it (or if he's fighting more than one opponent who has it since three domains are unstable) that's a pretty glaring weak point for my boy.
Not even a domain expansion is necessary, simple domain was specifically designed to give weaker sorcerers a shot against people like Hakari who overly rely on their DE
@@mwsage8645 They weren’t focusing on Yuta, it was a free for all The only person that got jumped is Uro who legit got 1 v 3’d by everyone back to back
@@jocoolshow They pretty clearly were focusing on Yuta lmao. Uro and Ishigori only hit each other because the other was mad they were interrupting their fight with Yuta
Hakari can’t use the doors during his jackpot rounds cuz he doesn’t have access to his ct. that’s why I believe we never really seen them against Kashimo he was always in jackpot
See as how we have to see just how strong Maki is in comparison to everyone else right now. This fight either goes with Hakari is probably dead. Or Toji gets destroyed once Rika comes out
I could definitly imagine ryu having a blast off with hakaris infinite CE. I bet hakari would entertain him in the last moment like yuta and he'll do binding vow to accumulate CE into a blast in exchange for his jackpot time.
I only see Ishigori losing because he would do the same thing as Kashimo and try to beat Hakari at full power. I almost feel like after learning about Hakari's domain he'll just wait for the jackpot. And Uro is bending space around her like a black hole. I think Gege set up the fight just for her to take a light beam and throw it back. And with her personality I don't really see her losing. Like she had to get jumped by the second strongest guy in the verse and probably the strongest curse spirit in the verse
Kashimo is way more powerful than Ryu and Uro imo , Hakari keeps getting underrated we'll just have to wait and see Gege cook more I got Hakari over everyone but Sukuna, Gojo and Kenjaku almost forgot Yuki that's it
you're reading a different manga if you think Hakari is over everyone besides the 3 strongest characters in the verse be for real, firstly Kashimo is not "way more powerful" than Ryu and Uro and even then Hakari had trouble with Kashimo even in jackpot, he only won because Kashimo had a major weakness to water and it was still a close fight
Kashimo _can't_ be much more powerful than Ryu in particular. Ryu is literally the ceiling for cursed energy output. That means he can punch the hardest, and he's the only one we've seen able to release blasts of cursed energy completely unassisted. If he beats Ryu, it's because of his cursed energy property. He is not punching or tanking harder than Ryu is.
I just want to know how tf would Kashimo hit Uro without even making a single contact and just dodging her thin ice shots every single time wouldn't be possible
Ishigori, I feel, alone is more than enough to deal with Hakari. If he (Hakari), even thinks of a Domain, Ishigori will use his. That’s an extreme disadvantage for Hakari, since now it’s a still vulnerable Hakari vs a long and close ranged fighter. His durability is outrageous, being able to take Thin Ice Breakers (which bypass your guard), to the stomach, get his skull crack opened by Rika, and still smile. He MASSIVELY outrages, hitting Yuta from blocks away, with such range Hakari can only choose to get hit (and die). He doesn’t have the reserves to tank it like Yuta, or reflect it like Uro. The highest Cursed output in history, so his granite blast definitely out scales anything Hakari can do. This also applies physically too, when he matches and blows Yuta off the roof. Overall, Hakari simply isn’t strong enough.
It's stated that Hakari's DE has advantage against tug of war of DEs so I doubt that. Ryu doesn't get the CT cooldown so either way it also doesn't matter if it doesn't work for him lol
The issue with Hakari matchups like this are just how much stuff he has going on that needs to be factored in. Things like Time Reduction Mode, Probability Change mode, If he lands a rainbow jackpot and more importantly the guaranteed jackpot on every 4th spin. All this to say is that it’s a matter of what you think he can get done, at which point, against which opponent, on which jackpot. Personally I think Hakari takes it high diff, mostly cause of how hard it was for kashimo of even land a decisive blow in between jackpots. I mean for real, dude had to blow up the river just so he could destroy Hakaris arm. And that was only cause hakari didn’t want swim away and was in a position where he couldn’t avoid it.
Nah, the thing is that hakari has had only 1 on 1 fights, which he excels at. With multiple characters in contention, anyone one of them can break his domain expansion, which would be gg. With that possibility, hakari is in a major disadvantage, despite his bonuses. With how many different factors is involved, funny enough, hakari's fate is up to luck. My guess is that the odds wouldn't be in his favor though. Uro and Ishigori would instantly be able to understand what Hakari's ability is once they see it. They'll see hakari activate it, once over they'll see that Hakari is bursting with energy and is even able to regenerate, and loop the process. Therefore they would see the best option would be to prevent the domain expansion from happening. Issue is that Ishigori may want to fight hakari in that state, and Uro wouldn't wanna burn her domain expansion. But like I said, theres way too many factors to truly know.
Hakari's skill set is too simple imo for him to get it done. You've got Uro and Ryu who are perfectly OK playing the range game and have their domains. Compatability is really important in fights too. For example, Hakari had to massively rely on the sea port to push Kashimo in because their fight was virtually turning into one of attrition.
Hakari just doesn't have the AP that's why he had so much trouble with Kashimo and had to resort to using Kashimo's huge water weakness to his advantage because otherwise he just wouldn't be able to beat him, he'd have no chance of dealing with multiple very high level opponents at once with only curse reinforced punches and kicks and they can all attack at range and have way higher AP than Hakari has ever shown
Hakari couldnt do any real damage to kashimo and only beat him because he ran out of ce If they weren't around water he would have one hakari only survived because he made a binding vow he even said he doesn't count the win also you gotta remember he started in jackpot which was a huge factor
@@cap-ml7ky hakaris domain reins supreme in a battle of domains because of a binding vow on it. The binding vow is that since his domain doesn’t hurt his opponent it overwrites any other domain in a tug of war
Hakari is definitely faster and stronger than anyone in Sendai in his JP form so he would definitely be able to outsleed either Uro or Ishigori, now they should be able to still react to him well at least Uro that is and Ryu is very tanky so he can exchange with Hakari. The battle between Yuta and Uro and Ryu was a bit over 5 minutes from when Yuta went into his full power mode, so from Dhruve to killing Uro Hakari will need no more than 3 Jackpots, given that he would do less damage in that amount of time as compared to Yuta and Rika. Hakaris domain is stated to open faster than 0.2 seconds and be extremely good in a Domain Clash so it is possible that his domain overpower theirs, if that is the case JP Hakari would style on them while he is empowered without taking any damage due to his RCT and extreme bulk, Kashimos lighting is a sure hit instant destruction attack, unlike Ryu's blast which was palmed by fully manifested Rik someone full power Yuta scales to and someone JP Hakari should easily outscale, Yuta mentioned that Hakari when on a roll is stronger than him and we don't have a real reason not to believe it as stronger than full power Yuta or fully manifested Rika but yet still being weaker than Yuta as a whole is possible so both Maki and Yuta are correct. But given that there is a time delay before each jackpot is landed and probably the people in Sendai would attack him in that time it is arguable he wont win. I see him beating Dhruve in base, going Jackpot for Kurourushi and molywhiping him, and then fighting Ryu and Uro until his JP ends, then they all get into a domian clash which Hakari wins, he manages to beat one of them only to be taken out by the other in the time in-between Jakcpots. But although Yuta is a lot bulkier than Hakari, ge should still be able to survive one Geanite Blast even to the head and as long as he is conscious to open domain and lucky enough to land a Jackpot he would win. Nontheless it would be an extreme diff fight, I will bet that Hakari wins extreme diff eith being close to death at least 2-3 times that day.
Hakari domain does not participate in domain tugs its actually stated in the fight with kasmio im 90 percent sure he can use his domain even if someone else uses theres and it will still work
Hakari should win against ishigori seeing how yuta was relative to ishigori physically. Hakari should be hitting way harder than yuta and there’s no way a granite blast is one shotting Hakari maybe not even in base seeing how it was deflected with a single hand by multiple ppl even Rika
Hakari couldn't deal any significant damage to Kashimo and if there wasn't any water around, he probably would have died against him. Unlike Kashimo, Kuro, Uro and Ishigori don't have exploitable Weaknesses, so I don't think he can beat them. Also, Hakari cannot use his doors (cursed technique) while on a jackpot, its stated in the manga
I don't have a particular opinion on whether Hakari can win in Sendai, but I really don't think the 4 in Sendai are as strong as Kashimo. Like I'm pretty sure Kashimo would stomp Kuro and Ishigori, potentially Uro as well depending how her technique interacts with him
I think Ryu could just blast him in the head and destroy it on one shot, as granite blasts are a beam and would just erase anything in the path and not let him heal. They also could domain clash him and stop his domain. Hell they might just be better at barriers and just beat him trapping him.
To be fair Yuta could completely dominate Yuji, while base Hakari was sort of relative to Charles. Of course he was not going all out and could have beaten him in base, but Charles, a completely new sorcerer did hit him and draw blood from him, even before gaining precog. Given Dhruv's status as a extremely powerful sorcerer and the degree to which Yuta is superior to base Hakari, I do think he would probably need a jackpot to take Dhruv out physically. Plus if Dhruv is not taken out quickly he can probably call his familiars. Yuta even showed that Dhruv's ability can be used in CQC against Uro. In his base state Hakari really is not all that impressive, he does rely on the jackpot a lot and would need it against any of the 4.
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 He does not have good base feats that make up for it and it's a bad showing for his speed and durability. Yuji accidentally hurt a sorcerer badly by lightly throwing a stone. Strength can be buffed with cursed energy and Charles has NO strength feats. Just by being a rival to Uro and Ishiguro at all Dhruv likely scales at least to the heliccopter guy tearing through skyscraper that was fodder to Yuji. If anything Hakari's base form is crazy weak for someone of his status with no good feats. Charles would never be an issue for any of the big four, from what he is shown he would get torn apart by helicopter guy. Also worth noting that Yuta used a sword to kill Dhruv which inherently requires much less force than bare fists, even if base Hakari was somehow at all relative to Yuta.
@@marcioamaral7511 Maybe but Yaga, Yuki, Kenjaku/Geto, Megumi and Nanamis student that died to Toji are the most prominent shikigami user, all physically capable. Yuta also showed that Dhruv's power can be used in CQC when he hit Uro with it. Cursed energy amps physicals, losing to Yuta (with more raw power than Gojo, capable of clashing with the guy with the highest cursed energy ouput Kenjaku knows) is not an anti-feat at all.
His first jackpot would be vs dhruv and when he dies kuroruchi would rush him and hakari would use the doors to split him and kill him he won't come back then uro goes in yo fight him after a minute ryu would blast him and see no damage but it'll run out then and uro would be his main issue he'd get her first and without his jackpot could force her into a chokehold and sacrifice her to the granite blast and she'd lose her arms and he'd knock her out then its a 1v1 between ryu and hakari and this is the 3rd jackpot he'd have one inbetween the granite blast and uro b3ing knocked out but it'll continue a little but after like 2 mins where ryu realises how it works and hakari being confident and ryu being hungry would ask how it works and he says he's unkillable for 5 mins and ryu would charge up a blast to kill him in that time and use the blast he did to try finish yuta all his ce into the blast and blow off hakaris arms and put a hole in his side like toji as he escaped it ended but like vs kashimo ryu would go to finish him and he'd get the extra chance to hit it and he would and ryu would give up he'd say he's run out or about to maybe another fight but hakari would've won barely but he would
Base Hakari has no chance against Uro and Ryu and maybe even Kuro imo. Hakari had trouble beating Kashimo even with jackpot so I think it'd be even harder for him to deal with multiple opponents on a similar level to Kashimo, I just don't think Hakari has the AP to deal with them all he has is hand to hand combat backed by cursed energy reinforcement but he has a limited output. He'd have to outlast them to win like what he did with Kashimo but that only worked with Kashimo because Kashimo had a convenient weakness to water the same can't be said for Ryu, Uro and Kuro, so it'd be a much longer fight for Hakari which means there's more of a chance of him getting killed by a well placed granite blast or something. Not to mention the fact that he might not even be able to get a jackpot since Uro and Ryu both have a DE, and at that point he'd just instantly lose.
Only if their domains are on par with his, and we have no evidence to support this because we don’t know what their domains do. It’d also be a waste of curse energy if they fail which would allow Hakari to capitalize on them before their CT can replenish.
🤔question tho: Does his Domain expansion change when in battle with multiple enemies? Seems like his luck would be increased in more risky situations. Ie 3 enemies hit with domain expansion could lower the cost of reaching jackpot or have some other effects.
Hakari couldnt do any real damage to kashimo and only beat him because he ran out of ce If they weren't around water he would have won hakari only survived because he made a binding vow he even said he doesn't count the win also you gotta remember he started in jackpot which was a huge factor
as hakari kicked it up every bout he started bodying kashimo. there's an entire sequence where hakari pieces kashimo up and kashimo doesn't get a single blow in. I do agree that the fight did make it look like hakari's basic blows punches kicks etc didn't do heavy damage even with his cursed energy trait but it's hard for me to imagine his blows were not doing good damage to kashimo and they would've def done good damage to others.
@@ursaminor2732 I never said he didn't get akot of hits in it's just none of them really seems to stop kashimo or really hurt him he just kept getting sent flying he never once thought he couldn't handle hakari although that could just be his personality also with that everyone might not try to just go blow for blow and kill the almost imortal jackpot hakari they might just play defense and catch the intervals which could be easy with there abilitys we know kashimo is known to be battle hungry way more than even ryu seeing that he wants to fight sukuna
@@Offthelowend no i agree with you, i think the fight portrayed hakari’s hits as doing less damage than kashimo’s i just also think hakari was doing more damage than was shown. also hakari wasn’t fighting to kill and kashimo was
I re read the Yuta and kurorushi fight and it seems like Yuta deals with the roaches by stabbing his cursed energy in the ground with his sword and surging up the water around him so why would Kashimo not be able to do the same with a punch or even just tank the roaches with reinforcement?
Because the cockroaches don’t use ap to hurt people, they go inside of said character and eat through them. Someone with higher reinforcement than Kashimo had cockroaches ripping through their body from the inside
I think Hakari doesn't use the doors during jackpot because he can't. They're a part of his CT and the narration does say that he uses the duration of jackpot to refuel his CE and to wait out the technique burnout caused by domains.
Hakari is more suited for 1v1 battles. If we talk about just 1v1 against Ryu and Uro, Hakari wins. But if they jump him, he loses. Matchups and situations matter a lot in jjk.
Mahoraga would one shot any cursed spirit coz of its weapon "sword of extermination" which is made up of positive energy and i dont see anyone besides Yuki,Kenjaku,Yuta,Gojo and Sukuna defeat Mahoraga and Kashimo,Hakari and Ryu has a slight chance
DEs as described by Gojo in chapter 15 have such huge CE demands because of their lethality: CTs that are already mini-nukes become guaranteed hits, and maintaining a barrier to trap an opponent while conjuring countless iterations of one’s CT is a huge drain. But the beginning of the Culling Games arc reveals why DEs were so much more common in ye olde times. These instant KO nuke DEs are a modern thing and was rare to find in the past. Before, DEs were more likely to offer some hack on a CT to the user’s advantage, so a DE like Hakari’s, which requires little to no participation on his opponent’s part and basically gives him a chance at a self-care package dialed up to 11, won’t demand nearly the same CE output as Mahito’s or Jogo’s or Naoya’s. It’s possible he could spam it in base 3-4 times before he’s wiped, which is maybe 1-2 more times than Uro or Ishigori can spam theirs back to back.
Hakari cant use his doors or ball or whatever during jackpot, due to technique burnout. Maybe near the end it would become available, but I think its likely his burnout is just extra long or set to last for the entire jackpot as a tradeoff.
I want to put out there we dont know what his domain does to his output and his reinforcement it could increase it it also couldnt but his rough curse energy DOES increase his damage itadori said it felt like getting hit with a serreted bat and based on how they drew itadoris face after getting hit he was cut up
Yuta tries to cut Kashimo, Kashimo smacks him in hand to hand Then Yuta thinks about calling for Rika but is one shotted by a lightning in the head before even using full manifestation
@@guilha1506 do you really believe what you’re saying? If you think special grade Yuta is getting defeated by Grade 1 Kashimo then I don’t even know. Yes Kashimo is grade 1, though many jjk fans classify him as “grade 0”. He isn’t a threat to a nation or country so he’s not even special grade.
@@loidrowe7445 Kashimo grade 1 💀💀💀 Kashimo stomps EVERY SINGLE grade 1 together in less than 5 minutes He was fighting Hakari on a roll, who is said to be stronger than Yuta (a special grade) in 4 different sources Even when old, sick and dying he is said to be a good fight for Ryu Ishigori, same guy who was smashing Yuta in hand to hand and in a blast competition (also, same dude who one shotted Rika, whose presence made Yuta a special grade in volume 0) To say that Kashimo is grade 1 is like saying that he gets neg diffed by Rika alone in volume 0
Keep in mind that Hakari lacks empathy towards others and will struggle to lure out Kurourushi. He aimlessly roams until stumbling upon one of the pillars. Yuta successfully enticed the special-grade cursed spirit by gathering people in one location, knowing that the other two pillars were nearby. Considering that Hakari can defeat one pillar in precisely 4 minutes and 11 seconds, it's reasonable to question whether the ancient sorcerers lacked the cleverness to ambush Hakari during the cooldown of his domain expansion. It's important not to compare the impact of a lightning bolt to that of a granite blast. The lightning bolt caused severe damage, but Hakari was only saved by Jackpot's healing ability. A direct hit from a granite blast during the cooldown of his domain expansion would utterly obliterate Hakari, especially since he remains unaware of the pillar locations, making him vulnerable to an ambush.
No, Once Hakri activates domain expansion the other sorcerers would respond. Although Hakaris domain is more effective in a domain clash it wouldn't be a Jogo vs Gojo situation but more of a Dagon vs Megumi situation. Yes Dagon was guaranteed to win the domain clash but his domains effects where still negated. The same scenario would happen here, the other domains would loose but it doesn't matter because in the period of domains clashing Hakari would be wiped out. Hakari is balanced around the fact that that he's only realy powerful against opponents without a Domain expansion
For me hakari was always going to lose against the sendai group or anyone who has range. Although hakari has unlimited cursed engery his problem is he has no out put for yuta, gojo, and ishagori they have massive amounts of curse energy almost bottomless from what we have seen but they can also out put all that power. Hakari is limited to arms reach with all his attacks and although when he has a jackpot his strength does increase it does not seem unmanageable for people on the level of ishagori or kishimo.
its hard hakari even if he has immortal hp he lacks power and fists cant touch uro as she can bend sky only was she was caught offgard was because rika was covering her view and yuta uses inumakis ct
i don’t think hakari could really come out on top on these , to me he’s just lacking that finishing blow to do anything properly past survive , i think if hakari wins then he wins by manipulating the others and making himself a part of the fight rather than being in a one on one
The train doors are apart of Hakari's base Innate Technique. He can conjure anything to do with train stations, as per the basis of the Pachinko game his Technique is based off of.
I’m happy to see this because people forget he can conjure the balls and doors.
@@tebrown2000 Only the real weebs
@@tebrown2000 it's pretty useless though considering he didn't use it at all in his fight with Kashimo and it did nothing to Yuji
@@Dell-ol6hb it did restrain Yuji 💀
@@OkRoomer123- ok it did very little to Yuji, regardless my point is it seems pretty useless considering he didn't use it against Kashimo when Kashimo was kicking his ass
I think an important factor is that Yuta's fight lasted 5 minutes after unleashing Rika. That's just 49 seconds more. At that point Uro was already taken out and they were all very tired, on the other hand Hakari would be at best condition.
Facts
On the other hand they also fought Yuta prior to those 5 minutes.
Now this is just an assumption but I think it’s safe to assume that they were also fighting one another before Yuta got there which would imply draining their CE reserves even further. So I think if they’re fresh, they should be fine for a couple or a few jackpots
@@Andrew1webb None of them were fighting each other before Yuta arrived. They established there was a deadlock between the 4 special grades before Yuta tilted the board by killing Dhruv and everything went crazy.
Wasn't rika still summoned by the end of the fight so it couldn't have lasted the full five minutes also uro was taken out due to cursed energy burnout from her domain expansion
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 Rika hit 5 minutes a little after the DE clash but Yuta couldn’t use his CT because of the cooldown effect
The actual translation about hakaris domain said that his domain rain’s supreme in domain tug of war. He’d run their pockets if they pull out their domains.
Because of the sure hit condition not being an attack most sorcerors focus on the sure hit skill as a way to land sire kill attack since it cant be avoided which limits the technique... i think it was gojo who explained that
Druv isn’t the weakest- a deadlock implies that he was on even footing. No one else had a counter for his shinigami- it’s a matter of matchup.
He could still be the weakest. Deadlock basically means if one attacks Druv then they will get ambushed by the third
Damn , why didn't he just borrow a fkng death note from his shinigami ?
@@random0activity literally this
@random0activity yup
Deadlock basically means not one of them can go after another one cuz the others would come after them in their weaker state after the battle
A deadlock implies that all parties are relative not equal. Dhruv could've been competing with all but might've been on the backfoot.
A battle between Hakari, Ishigori, and Todo (with a power boost) would be a joy ride. The three most eccentric characters in the series having a full blown battle royale just sounds like pure unadulterated chaos.
What is your opinion now that Todo actually got this power boost?
@@gustavosauro1882todo would be the last one standing due to there sheer absurdity of Re-Boogie Woogie
I feel like they forgot hakari’s domain activates significantly faster than most, so I think it’s unlikely for it to get interrupted.
they can just summon theirs during hakaris,and the three DE would disappear
@@javiersobarzo685 the three DEs got deleted because the cockroach guy disrupted it
@@songhuang6854 ok, so what, they would still just cancel hakaris domain with their own and without jackpot, hakari gets rekt
@@fernandoreimpell2818hakaris Domain can't be canceled because it has no sure hit to cancel
@@fernandoreimpell2818 Hakari's domain not only has insanely fast activation but it is stated that it ins incredibly powerful in a domain tug of war. Not only would they be last to activate their own domain but Hakari holds an advantage in the clash making theirs the most likely to be overpowered.
Sendai is the best scenario for him, he can farm the first Jackpot and probability changes with weak enemies like Kuroruichi and Dhruv
Kurourushi? WEAK? lol
I wouldn’t call Kuroruichi weak, Yuta can actively manipulate positive curses energy something that Hakari can’t do, that’s why he made Kuro look weak.
@@rynn4588 Soloed by base Yuta without even using Rika
Same Yuta who couldn’t even blitz and had his sword destroyed by holding back tired Yuji
@@Niko_Suavey Kuro is simply fodder, just compare its fight against base Yuta with Ryu vs Base Yuta
Kuro was outpaced, had a slower attack speed, was send flying with an attack and had to use its technique to block Yuta’s slash. Base Yuta with his sword alone was dealing with the swarm of cockroaches and even with his EYES CLOSED was able to block Kuro. The only thing that made him struggle was the sword blasting cockroaches
Meanwhile, Ryu was pressing Yuta and send him flying with his output, then Yuta reflected one of his blasts and lost his hand when trying to punch his face because of another blast
Latter, Kuro is almost one shot by a blast from Ryu after using his domain (Uro tanked this + a barrage of punches from Yuta and Rika + Dhruvs technique + Kuro ripping her arm)
@@guilha1506 solod by base Yuta because of Yuta’s positive energy hax. Kurtorushi wouldn’t be an easy fight for Hakari Lool
Hikari is the only person we’ve seen move his domain while it’s active
well yea because it's very situational in most cases it wouldn't matter at all, it only mattered for that fight because Kashimo was conveniently weak to water and they were right next to the ocean
megumi did that too against Dagon
@its_ fif_ he didnt move his domain he opened a domain to allow for escape megumi cant even make a barrier yet he needs a solid construct to help maintain the barrier because he cant amd thats stated during the fight with reggie after the fight with dagon so how would he move it
And still the only person we've seen do this
Well we now know higuruma and hakari are special and can easily manipuate their domains conditions duo to it being connected to their ct
My theory on Hakari (and why he is more OP): A possible mathematical basis for Hakari having 100% chance to get a Jackpot each time he opens his domain: 1) Note that Hakari said he "never had to go beyond 30 tries" to get a jackpot. This referred to rolling inside the domain (to get the different colors and get the jackpot. This means from his history, he will always get a jackpot between rolls 1-30. 2) Lies are part of sorcerer techniques. His domain "says" the probability of getting a jackpot in the gambling game is 1/239". Note that it refers only to the game itself and not about Hakari's exact probability. These are two different things. Hakari knows his own "luck". You and I will have different levels of luck while playing a game which has some "range of probability". There is such a thing as "Baysian Probability" which is so far the best probability framework that we have when talking about probabilities of probabilities. This simply means that one's actual probability depends on one's history and each probability should (to remain accurate) be updated regularly. This is how this can be applied to Hakari's technique (not farfetch since the author refers to very advanced physics and maths): Hakari's probabibility history states that he does not have to go over 30 rolls to get a jackpot. This means at 30th roll, Hakari has 100% chance to get a Jackpot. His probability looks like: 1/30, 2/30, 3/30...30/30 or 1 (100%]). Hakari "lied" about how his jackpot works and misleads the opponent to think it is alwayx 1/239. In reality, Hakari is simply opening 30 boxes one of which contain his Jackpot. Therefore, he will always get a jackpot everytime he opens a domain.
He might not be lying, revealing your technique makes it stronger so mabe by saying its 1/239 it actually just improves his odds aswell as him being super lucky
Even without going to all of that he's guaranteed a jp every time he opens a domain and thus begins a chain of domain till he defeats the opponent
@@jonsh2 maybe the more accurate term is misleading his opponents. Similar to how the info dump is part of the overall complexity.
@@oreki8707 unfortunately nothing in what was shared directly by Hakari or within the notes from the domain info dump says he is guaranteed a jackpot everytime. In fact, the rules shared to opponent says otherwise. That is why there is a need for an underlying rule/conditions for the effectiveness of the domain.
“Jackpot… or No Jackpot!
Live to open all 30 and find out!”
XD
A thing to note about Hakari is that he is a brilliant fighter, he knows his domain in and out and knows when to risk and when to play it safe and based on yuta’s statements of Hakari, he can pretty much guarantee safety and get jackpot after jackpot, only when against another brilliant fighter like Kashimo does he have to really “rely” on his luck. He’d solo Sendai almost easily, not saying that he’s that strong but he just has better ways of dealing with Sendai colony.
These collabs always go hard. Wish you guys had more long form ones like that 2 hour video. Keep the content coming.
Bro I love that y’all 2 niggas collab a lot now, the best JJK channels son
Like usually I watch y’all shit back to back so it’s even more lit when one appears in the others vid
@@bujoodoo1 true
Since ishigoris granite blast isn’t a technique but just a raw output of cursed energy he has practically no cooldown on blasts, he shot of a huge one right after opening his domain.
This is true his technique is actually ce output
It is a technique though. Discharging cursed energy like he does isn't something anyone can do, the name of his CT is legit "Cursed Energy Discharge".
@@DarmawheelWhat about the finger bearers ? They were able to discharge raw cursed energy in the shape of arrows and they were both stated to lack a cursed technique
I see Hakari, I click video!!
we*
to bad they biased against our boy
Normally i click
Buh when i see him in the thumbnail of a no operator and broken ronin video i am hesitant 😂
Thumbnail looks like it unleashed a domain all on its own looks so good and Hakari would definitely have trouble with Curse Roach King since he don't play gacha or pachinko lol
Ryu and Hakari talking about fever and desert would be interesting, if not a little funny
According to the manga, Kashimo implies (in an admittedly very missable piece of dialogue) that Hakari’s domain technique likely can’t be nullified in a domain clash due to the nature of it-as the sure-hit move isn’t damaging in any way (and is way to fast to use Simple Domain against), the trade off is that Hakari’s domain can’t be negged as a result. Meaning that, even in a domain clash, Hakari’s Jackpot can still come into play, and it makes me think that he has counters in play for those trying to destroy it from the outside (seems pretty likely, given he’s attended the joint festival in the past before being suspended, so multiple opponents probably isn’t anything new for him to deal with).
Also, I think it’s fair to point out that Hakari was completely immune to Kashimo’s shocking cursed energy, something that staggered Panda significantly even in his gorilla form, so certain attacks like the swarm of cockroaches might not even be able to get through his Jackpot aura at all once he activates it (and might get handled by the serrated edge of his CE trait alone). Not to mention that we’ve seen Hakari’s come up with creative ways to counter his weaknesses, like removing both electricity and poison from his head before it could even reach his brain, so his fight IQ alone is seriously no joke.
Yeah, but what about a 3 way clash? Or someone opening their domain after his is finished?
@@rashawnhoward564 his is most likely more refined since it's so fast so it would just overpower most peoples domains if he used a domain expansion in someone's domain expansion
The sure hit can be nullified if someone could use a domain technique fast enough which is very unlikely
Hikari didn't really use much intelligence to stop himself from be killed by electricity he just sent CE to his head same with the poison the CE healed him and removed the poison automatically.
Him changing the location of his domain was a big brain move though
Dont forget hikari is able move his domain as well i think it was gojo that explained the diffence between sure hit and sure kill early on too saying socerors focus on the sure kill too much in this era which makes sense gojos domsain is also sure hit not sure kill
Pseudo spins is an underrated ability Hakari can spam in between jackpot rounds
Very underrated kashimo couldnt land a decisive blow because of it
Hakari still has the doors and the balls he conjures with his cursed technique. I think he didn’t use them against Kashimo to avoid killing him.
Remember Hakari didn’t want to kill Kashimo. I guess that remains the same here in Sendai though.
If yuji and Charles dodged those doors then that would be child's play for Kashimo
@@marcioamaral7511 facts
You think the doors and balls can kill Kashimo? 💀
It could also be because kashimo didn't use his technique he thought of it as a duel
@@lemillion7929 unironically he's saying Train Balls and Doors>JP Hakari Punches 💀
It’s good to see my bro’s channel growing. Come a long way 🙏🏽
I think i saw a post on twitter, with Hakari's domain being revealed, that it was described with japanese kanji as a domain, that can not be overwritten by an other domain, because of the binding vow which takes an effect, since Hakari's domain is harmless to opponents in it.
So, theoretically, if Uro and Ishigori were to open their domain simultaneously like with Yuta, i don't think that Hakari would have lost his jack-pot.
As much as l know that the translations can be confusing, hakari being able to win ALL domains due to his harmless one is weird to me, does the same applies to higuruma domain? or all of the old styled domain expansions from the past?
@@kakashihatake6176It seems like when Domains clash the "sure hit effect" is whats cancelled out. If this is the case, and Hakari's sure hit effect is simply someone gaining knowledge of his domain, then his actual domain should still function.
Sure but a three way domain clash would ignore the rule entirely
@@Sircoochieis there proof of that?
@@at7072Sendai colony
Hakari can't do a domain until the round end so thier domain against him will will work that is stated on chapter 189 and page 6
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ye i dont see hakari winning tbh he is prob on par if not slightly weaker than yuji no jackpot
@@Discorded did you see hakari vs yuji?
He beat him up without jackpot while holding back
@@Discordedbut hakari will stil probably lose
@@Discorded tbh I don’t think base hakari is even top 5 grade 1s
Ishigoori VS Hakari would be the rawest fight ever ngl
This is a true statement
Not after sakuna just no diffed ishigori i cant see that happening to hikari
@@micahmcfadden8082 Sukuna low diffs like 80% of the verse why does that matter
There's one thing I'm not sure about. Due to Yuta having an almost bottomless amount of cursed energy and reinforcing his body to defend against Ryu, then wouldn't jackpot hakari with a literal bottomless amount of cursed energy and auto reverse curse techniques be able to take the blows better the yuta. Plus considering Yuya using his cursed energy to make up for his lack in physical strength while jackpot hakari would have both good physical strength and infinite cursed energy to reinforce it with
it´s different,they may have different amounts of CE but not the same output,ishigoris attack should do more damage than hakaris because his output is the greatest.
@@javiersobarzo685 yeah I get that but I mean in the defence department. I'm wondering if hakari will have stronger reinforcement than yuta therefore be able to take more hits
@@Fredable no... it's similar to how Ishigori had more curse output.
Hakari's defence and RCT becomes passive after he hits a jackpot, so he can be reckless about how he attacks knowing he's immortal for 4 mins, but the passive enhanced defence and rct aren't the best, the Jackpot simply taps into his potential for curse energy control.
So Yuta could still be above him.
Say, if Yuta's rct and enhanced curse energy gives him a defence of 100, but Hakari's forced rct and enhanced curse energy gives him like a 90, then regardless of how infinite his curse energy is Yuta would naturally have better defence and curse energy control overall.
So an attack that could break Yuta's arm would completely rip Hakari's arm off.
Do we think Kashimo could hurt Yuta with his lightning the way he hurt Hakari? I think not.
In theory, Hakari could keep going but in practice, his lack in skill/control over positive curse energy would cost him because unlike Yuta who could focus his enhancements solely on an arm or his sword, Hakari just has to hope that his Jackpot can handle the damage.
Funny enough, it's the skill level/control that makes Gojo better than Yuta despite Yuta having more curse energy reserves overall.
It's also why Kashimo was never pushed back for long in their fight, whenever Hakari seemed to get the upperhand, Kashimo simply adapted with his higher level of skill.
If Hakari fights the way he did vs Kashimo, he would undoubtedly lose without actually killing any of the 3 sorcerers. Old guy is a bonus lol.
He's so reckless with his domain that, he'll get knocked out of it and have it canceled out, and without the infinite curse energy, he can't loop domain expansions. He'll get stomped out in base.
@revenant RONIN explain how yuta can remove hikari from his domain without activating his own and once activated hikari can move his domainunless yuta can kill him before domain expansion hikari has the upper hand as once he hits a jackpot his cursed energy is fully charged even whil spamming rct yuta used rct a few times andnuro and ishigori saw the notable difference and the bottom of his vast supply rika will recharge ulyuta once so for 4min they are effetcively equals hikaris infinite cursed energy will run out before rika does and to methats yutas best time to kill him in a two on one with rika while hikari tries to jackpot again if not yuta smoked
@@micahmcfadden8082 When 2 domains of a similar rank are expanded, they cancel each other out and can't be used for a long while.
In Yuta's case, it was a a three way domain expansion that canceled his own domain out.
In fact, it's implied that Kashimo's domain would've canceled out Hakari's at the very least.
Hakari goes "domain expansion" and immediately everybody else also expands their own domains and Hakari is forced to stay in his base state for the rest of the fight, he doesn't have RCT and his CT that uses the train doors and his enhanced punches won't do much of anything to those guys that Yuta fought.
And as far as Yuta vs Hakari goes, it's also a stomp in Yuta's favour as well.
In this case, the domains may not even cancel out, it'll become a domain battle like Jogou vs Gojou and Yuta would be Gojou in this case lol.
If it cancels out, Yuta still stomps... In fact, Hakari vs Rika alone would be a high diff fight let alone Yuta on top of that.
I feel like people forget the fact that other characters also have domain expansion when discussing Hakari.
I mean yeah, he's fucking awesome and Jackpot is one of the coolest powers in JJK but... He could just get countered...
And if we're just banking on an ability that can just get bended if the other character is better at it (or if he's fighting more than one opponent who has it since three domains are unstable) that's a pretty glaring weak point for my boy.
Not even a domain expansion is necessary, simple domain was specifically designed to give weaker sorcerers a shot against people like Hakari who overly rely on their DE
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z Well, not like Hakari since his DE isn't lethal. Simple Domain was for those people.
10 seconds in and here’s my take: Hakari can 1 V 1 any Sendai player but in a 1 V 3 gets overpowered
Yeah if all three were fighting him at once, but like in the Yuta fights at several points Uro and Ishigori were focusing on each other.
@@alexismaldonado9707 I mean yeah but they mainly focused on Yuta, he just had Rika so he could make it a 2v2
I agree with this take. I think Uro would be extreme diff tho
@@mwsage8645 They weren’t focusing on Yuta, it was a free for all
The only person that got jumped is Uro who legit got 1 v 3’d by everyone back to back
@@jocoolshow They pretty clearly were focusing on Yuta lmao. Uro and Ishigori only hit each other because the other was mad they were interrupting their fight with Yuta
Hakari can’t use the doors during his jackpot rounds cuz he doesn’t have access to his ct. that’s why I believe we never really seen them against Kashimo he was always in jackpot
Suggestion: Gojo and Getou replaced with Yuta and Hakari in the hidden inventory
Them trying to defend Riko vs Toji with prep time
Yuta solos
They both solo
See as how we have to see just how strong Maki is in comparison to everyone else right now. This fight either goes with Hakari is probably dead.
Or Toji gets destroyed once Rika comes out
Both dead lol
Riko survives
Worst case scenario, Hakari dies
But Yuta and Riko are definitely surviving
I could definitly imagine ryu having a blast off with hakaris infinite CE. I bet hakari would entertain him in the last moment like yuta and he'll do binding vow to accumulate CE into a blast in exchange for his jackpot time.
URO is such a Beautiful beast of a Sorcerer
I only see Ishigori losing because he would do the same thing as Kashimo and try to beat Hakari at full power. I almost feel like after learning about Hakari's domain he'll just wait for the jackpot. And Uro is bending space around her like a black hole. I think Gege set up the fight just for her to take a light beam and throw it back. And with her personality I don't really see her losing. Like she had to get jumped by the second strongest guy in the verse and probably the strongest curse spirit in the verse
wait did I miss a video, wheres the Yuta video
Bro I don't see it anywhere😭
Kashimo is way more powerful than Ryu and Uro imo , Hakari keeps getting underrated we'll just have to wait and see Gege cook more
I got Hakari over everyone but Sukuna, Gojo and Kenjaku almost forgot Yuki that's it
Yuta is stronger than hakari. Chapter 173 states that in the modern era, Yuta is second only to Gojo
you're reading a different manga if you think Hakari is over everyone besides the 3 strongest characters in the verse be for real, firstly Kashimo is not "way more powerful" than Ryu and Uro and even then Hakari had trouble with Kashimo even in jackpot, he only won because Kashimo had a major weakness to water and it was still a close fight
Kashimo _can't_ be much more powerful than Ryu in particular. Ryu is literally the ceiling for cursed energy output. That means he can punch the hardest, and he's the only one we've seen able to release blasts of cursed energy completely unassisted. If he beats Ryu, it's because of his cursed energy property. He is not punching or tanking harder than Ryu is.
I just want to know how tf would Kashimo hit Uro without even making a single contact and just dodging her thin ice shots every single time wouldn't be possible
Yuta is stronger than Hikari 💀
But Hikari can be stronger
That doesn’t mean he is definitively stronger
Come on dawg
Ishigori, I feel, alone is more than enough to deal with Hakari. If he (Hakari), even thinks of a Domain, Ishigori will use his. That’s an extreme disadvantage for Hakari, since now it’s a still vulnerable Hakari vs a long and close ranged fighter.
His durability is outrageous, being able to take Thin Ice Breakers (which bypass your guard), to the stomach, get his skull crack opened by Rika, and still smile.
He MASSIVELY outrages, hitting Yuta from blocks away, with such range Hakari can only choose to get hit (and die). He doesn’t have the reserves to tank it like Yuta, or reflect it like Uro.
The highest Cursed output in history, so his granite blast definitely out scales anything Hakari can do. This also applies physically too, when he matches and blows Yuta off the roof.
Overall, Hakari simply isn’t strong enough.
I agree Ryu alone would be enough to deal with Hakari even with jackpot but Kuro and Uro too? He has no chance of winning
It's stated that Hakari's DE has advantage against tug of war of DEs so I doubt that. Ryu doesn't get the CT cooldown so either way it also doesn't matter if it doesn't work for him lol
Hakari’s domain is stated to be superior in domain battles so his might be left standing
The issue with Hakari matchups like this are just how much stuff he has going on that needs to be factored in.
Things like Time Reduction Mode, Probability Change mode, If he lands a rainbow jackpot and more importantly the guaranteed jackpot on every 4th spin.
All this to say is that it’s a matter of what you think he can get done, at which point, against which opponent, on which jackpot.
Personally I think Hakari takes it high diff, mostly cause of how hard it was for kashimo of even land a decisive blow in between jackpots.
I mean for real, dude had to blow up the river just so he could destroy Hakaris arm. And that was only cause hakari didn’t want swim away and was in a position where he couldn’t avoid it.
Nah, the thing is that hakari has had only 1 on 1 fights, which he excels at. With multiple characters in contention, anyone one of them can break his domain expansion, which would be gg. With that possibility, hakari is in a major disadvantage, despite his bonuses. With how many different factors is involved, funny enough, hakari's fate is up to luck.
My guess is that the odds wouldn't be in his favor though. Uro and Ishigori would instantly be able to understand what Hakari's ability is once they see it. They'll see hakari activate it, once over they'll see that Hakari is bursting with energy and is even able to regenerate, and loop the process. Therefore they would see the best option would be to prevent the domain expansion from happening. Issue is that Ishigori may want to fight hakari in that state, and Uro wouldn't wanna burn her domain expansion. But like I said, theres way too many factors to truly know.
Hakari's skill set is too simple imo for him to get it done. You've got Uro and Ryu who are perfectly OK playing the range game and have their domains. Compatability is really important in fights too. For example, Hakari had to massively rely on the sea port to push Kashimo in because their fight was virtually turning into one of attrition.
Hakari just doesn't have the AP that's why he had so much trouble with Kashimo and had to resort to using Kashimo's huge water weakness to his advantage because otherwise he just wouldn't be able to beat him, he'd have no chance of dealing with multiple very high level opponents at once with only curse reinforced punches and kicks and they can all attack at range and have way higher AP than Hakari has ever shown
Hakari couldnt do any real damage to kashimo and only beat him because he ran out of ce If they weren't around water he would have one hakari only survived because he made a binding vow he even said he doesn't count the win also you gotta remember he started in jackpot which was a huge factor
@@cap-ml7ky hakaris domain reins supreme in a battle of domains because of a binding vow on it. The binding vow is that since his domain doesn’t hurt his opponent it overwrites any other domain in a tug of war
Did I miss the Yuta vs Kashimo episode?
I don’t think it was uploaded cause I was wondering the same thing. But I can’t find it on his playlist or his channel
Hakari is definitely faster and stronger than anyone in Sendai in his JP form so he would definitely be able to outsleed either Uro or Ishigori, now they should be able to still react to him well at least Uro that is and Ryu is very tanky so he can exchange with Hakari. The battle between Yuta and Uro and Ryu was a bit over 5 minutes from when Yuta went into his full power mode, so from Dhruve to killing Uro Hakari will need no more than 3 Jackpots, given that he would do less damage in that amount of time as compared to Yuta and Rika. Hakaris domain is stated to open faster than 0.2 seconds and be extremely good in a Domain Clash so it is possible that his domain overpower theirs, if that is the case JP Hakari would style on them while he is empowered without taking any damage due to his RCT and extreme bulk, Kashimos lighting is a sure hit instant destruction attack, unlike Ryu's blast which was palmed by fully manifested Rik someone full power Yuta scales to and someone JP Hakari should easily outscale, Yuta mentioned that Hakari when on a roll is stronger than him and we don't have a real reason not to believe it as stronger than full power Yuta or fully manifested Rika but yet still being weaker than Yuta as a whole is possible so both Maki and Yuta are correct. But given that there is a time delay before each jackpot is landed and probably the people in Sendai would attack him in that time it is arguable he wont win. I see him beating Dhruve in base, going Jackpot for Kurourushi and molywhiping him, and then fighting Ryu and Uro until his JP ends, then they all get into a domian clash which Hakari wins, he manages to beat one of them only to be taken out by the other in the time in-between Jakcpots. But although Yuta is a lot bulkier than Hakari, ge should still be able to survive one Geanite Blast even to the head and as long as he is conscious to open domain and lucky enough to land a Jackpot he would win. Nontheless it would be an extreme diff fight, I will bet that Hakari wins extreme diff eith being close to death at least 2-3 times that day.
Been so hyped for this one to come out
Is there Yuta fighting Kashimo scenario video too ??
I've been so hyped for this Match up!
I love you guys you’re great
Hakari domain does not participate in domain tugs its actually stated in the fight with kasmio im 90 percent sure he can use his domain even if someone else uses theres and it will still work
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Did I miss the Yuta vs Kashimo fight?
Last battle? The vid about Yuta vs Kashimo is already out?
I hate to say it but if hakari fall in the swarm of kurourushi it's over
Hakari should win against ishigori seeing how yuta was relative to ishigori physically. Hakari should be hitting way harder than yuta and there’s no way a granite blast is one shotting Hakari maybe not even in base seeing how it was deflected with a single hand by multiple ppl even Rika
Hakari couldn't deal any significant damage to Kashimo and if there wasn't any water around, he probably would have died against him. Unlike Kashimo, Kuro, Uro and Ishigori don't have exploitable Weaknesses, so I don't think he can beat them.
Also, Hakari cannot use his doors (cursed technique) while on a jackpot, its stated in the manga
I don't have a particular opinion on whether Hakari can win in Sendai, but I really don't think the 4 in Sendai are as strong as Kashimo.
Like I'm pretty sure Kashimo would stomp Kuro and Ishigori, potentially Uro as well depending how her technique interacts with him
@@solacee4327 I have no reason to think that Kashimo is stronger than Uro or Ishigori
People seem to forget Kashimo is no small fry , there's a reason he was hyped up to fight sukuna imo he's way more powerful than Ryu and Uro
@@lemillion7929 Kenny thought Kashimo could've fought Ishigori when he was like 90, so I think he would definitely win currently
@@solacee4327 It doesnt mean that Kashimo would've won or even put up a fight
I think Ryu could just blast him in the head and destroy it on one shot, as granite blasts are a beam and would just erase anything in the path and not let him heal. They also could domain clash him and stop his domain. Hell they might just be better at barriers and just beat him trapping him.
No one can beat Hakari in a clash of Domains.
kashimo;s attack are way more deadly and he survived that
Why do people always act like everything one shots, clearly ryu never one shotet anyone so why would he hakari, especially if hakari is in jackpot
@@make-a-wish2224 people are dumb af
little late comment but its been said somewhere that hakaris domain is unbeatable in a clash
To be fair Yuta could completely dominate Yuji, while base Hakari was sort of relative to Charles. Of course he was not going all out and could have beaten him in base, but Charles, a completely new sorcerer did hit him and draw blood from him, even before gaining precog.
Given Dhruv's status as a extremely powerful sorcerer and the degree to which Yuta is superior to base Hakari, I do think he would probably need a jackpot to take Dhruv out physically. Plus if Dhruv is not taken out quickly he can probably call his familiars. Yuta even showed that Dhruv's ability can be used in CQC against Uro.
In his base state Hakari really is not all that impressive, he does rely on the jackpot a lot and would need it against any of the 4.
Shikigami users normally aren't anything special in CQC or anything physical in general
That's why Getou and Megumi are exceptions in this regard
hakari wasnt even trying to badly hurt charles tho so i dont think its that significant of an episode
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 He does not have good base feats that make up for it and it's a bad showing for his speed and durability. Yuji accidentally hurt a sorcerer badly by lightly throwing a stone. Strength can be buffed with cursed energy and Charles has NO strength feats. Just by being a rival to Uro and Ishiguro at all Dhruv likely scales at least to the heliccopter guy tearing through skyscraper that was fodder to Yuji.
If anything Hakari's base form is crazy weak for someone of his status with no good feats.
Charles would never be an issue for any of the big four, from what he is shown he would get torn apart by helicopter guy.
Also worth noting that Yuta used a sword to kill Dhruv which inherently requires much less force than bare fists, even if base Hakari was somehow at all relative to Yuta.
@@marcioamaral7511 I wonder what Sukuna would have thought of Getou
@@marcioamaral7511 Maybe but Yaga, Yuki, Kenjaku/Geto, Megumi and Nanamis student that died to Toji are the most prominent shikigami user, all physically capable. Yuta also showed that Dhruv's power can be used in CQC when he hit Uro with it. Cursed energy amps physicals, losing to Yuta (with more raw power than Gojo, capable of clashing with the guy with the highest cursed energy ouput Kenjaku knows) is not an anti-feat at all.
His first jackpot would be vs dhruv and when he dies kuroruchi would rush him and hakari would use the doors to split him and kill him he won't come back then uro goes in yo fight him after a minute ryu would blast him and see no damage but it'll run out then and uro would be his main issue he'd get her first and without his jackpot could force her into a chokehold and sacrifice her to the granite blast and she'd lose her arms and he'd knock her out then its a 1v1 between ryu and hakari and this is the 3rd jackpot he'd have one inbetween the granite blast and uro b3ing knocked out but it'll continue a little but after like 2 mins where ryu realises how it works and hakari being confident and ryu being hungry would ask how it works and he says he's unkillable for 5 mins and ryu would charge up a blast to kill him in that time and use the blast he did to try finish yuta all his ce into the blast and blow off hakaris arms and put a hole in his side like toji as he escaped it ended but like vs kashimo ryu would go to finish him and he'd get the extra chance to hit it and he would and ryu would give up he'd say he's run out or about to maybe another fight but hakari would've won barely but he would
I think you guys forgot about the fact that both uro and Ryu both have domain expansion 🤷🏾♂️.
Dat thumbnail goes brazy
Base Hakari has no chance against Uro and Ryu and maybe even Kuro imo. Hakari had trouble beating Kashimo even with jackpot so I think it'd be even harder for him to deal with multiple opponents on a similar level to Kashimo, I just don't think Hakari has the AP to deal with them all he has is hand to hand combat backed by cursed energy reinforcement but he has a limited output. He'd have to outlast them to win like what he did with Kashimo but that only worked with Kashimo because Kashimo had a convenient weakness to water the same can't be said for Ryu, Uro and Kuro, so it'd be a much longer fight for Hakari which means there's more of a chance of him getting killed by a well placed granite blast or something. Not to mention the fact that he might not even be able to get a jackpot since Uro and Ryu both have a DE, and at that point he'd just instantly lose.
Can’t they cancel his domain with theirs and hakari wouldn’t be able to expand again
Only if their domains are on par with his, and we have no evidence to support this because we don’t know what their domains do. It’d also be a waste of curse energy if they fail which would allow Hakari to capitalize on them before their CT can replenish.
His domain opens faster than you can react
Hakari domain is said to be very fast
And becase his sure hit dosn't harm anyone it is better in domain fights
@@ranmoses2553 but would that cancel their domains or just allow his domain to funcition inside theirs?
@@yaboiplank6764 it will beat their domain back
And so only his domain will be there
Kashimo vs Sandai would be great video
3:40 my man got a windows notification mid vid, legendary
🤔question tho: Does his Domain expansion change when in battle with multiple enemies? Seems like his luck would be increased in more risky situations. Ie 3 enemies hit with domain expansion could lower the cost of reaching jackpot or have some other effects.
Hakari Gang!!🤷🏾♂️
@hey you’re actually a clown saying this on UA-cam 😂 bet you stink
@hey nah not triggered! Just embarrassed for you😂
Where yuta vs kashimo vidéo ?
Can you do a video on how to structure the anime for season 3? I loved the shibuya incident for season 2 video!
what's the song playing at 2:30 ? love this series
Hakari couldnt do any real damage to kashimo and only beat him because he ran out of ce If they weren't around water he would have won hakari only survived because he made a binding vow he even said he doesn't count the win also you gotta remember he started in jackpot which was a huge factor
as hakari kicked it up every bout he started bodying kashimo. there's an entire sequence where hakari pieces kashimo up and kashimo doesn't get a single blow in. I do agree that the fight did make it look like hakari's basic blows punches kicks etc didn't do heavy damage even with his cursed energy trait but it's hard for me to imagine his blows were not doing good damage to kashimo and they would've def done good damage to others.
exactly he just doesn't have a lot of AP compared to people like Yuta, and Ryu, hell even Uro
@@ursaminor2732 I never said he didn't get akot of hits in it's just none of them really seems to stop kashimo or really hurt him he just kept getting sent flying he never once thought he couldn't handle hakari although that could just be his personality also with that everyone might not try to just go blow for blow and kill the almost imortal jackpot hakari they might just play defense and catch the intervals which could be easy with there abilitys we know kashimo is known to be battle hungry way more than even ryu seeing that he wants to fight sukuna
@@Offthelowend no i agree with you, i think the fight portrayed hakari’s hits as doing less damage than kashimo’s i just also think hakari was doing more damage than was shown. also hakari wasn’t fighting to kill and kashimo was
I re read the Yuta and kurorushi fight and it seems like Yuta deals with the roaches by stabbing his cursed energy in the ground with his sword and surging up the water around him so why would Kashimo not be able to do the same with a punch or even just tank the roaches with reinforcement?
Because the cockroaches don’t use ap to hurt people, they go inside of said character and eat through them. Someone with higher reinforcement than Kashimo had cockroaches ripping through their body from the inside
@@senpaikyoshi19 you really think kashimo would by a cockroach when lighting is own techique lol
Where can i find the video of yuta vs kashimo, cause ive tried for half an hour and couldnt find it
I think Hakari doesn't use the doors during jackpot because he can't. They're a part of his CT and the narration does say that he uses the duration of jackpot to refuel his CE and to wait out the technique burnout caused by domains.
Hakari is more suited for 1v1 battles. If we talk about just 1v1 against Ryu and Uro, Hakari wins. But if they jump him, he loses. Matchups and situations matter a lot in jjk.
I want to see Maharaga match ups.
Maharaga vs Toji or Mahito or Hakari or Kashimo or Yuta
Hakari vs Mahoraga would be longest fight ever
Mahoraga would one shot any cursed spirit coz of its weapon "sword of extermination" which is made up of positive energy and i dont see anyone besides Yuki,Kenjaku,Yuta,Gojo and Sukuna defeat Mahoraga and Kashimo,Hakari and Ryu has a slight chance
Mahoraga would win against all of them probably, only Yuta has any chance tbh just because of his versatility
@@Dell-ol6hb when it comes to versatility Toji have 100s of cursed weapon stored with him all the time. That is why i included him in this
@@SxtoruGojo what about Toji?
He is versatile with 100s of cursed weapon stored.
i think that its very likely hakari has a hidden binding vow that refunds his "gamble" or domain if he doesnt get to finish "playing"
hakari domain is stated to have a faster activation than mahitos 0.2 seconds that's why hes able to survive extremely fatal blows so much on jackpots.
Hakari my beloved ❤️
Hakari lowkey has this, especially since we have not seen all he’s capable of
Matchups like this shouldn't be discussed yet cuz we still don't know how Hakari and Higuruma's domains interact with modern domains like Gojo's.
DEs as described by Gojo in chapter 15 have such huge CE demands because of their lethality: CTs that are already mini-nukes become guaranteed hits, and maintaining a barrier to trap an opponent while conjuring countless iterations of one’s CT is a huge drain. But the beginning of the Culling Games arc reveals why DEs were so much more common in ye olde times. These instant KO nuke DEs are a modern thing and was rare to find in the past. Before, DEs were more likely to offer some hack on a CT to the user’s advantage, so a DE like Hakari’s, which requires little to no participation on his opponent’s part and basically gives him a chance at a self-care package dialed up to 11, won’t demand nearly the same CE output as Mahito’s or Jogo’s or Naoya’s. It’s possible he could spam it in base 3-4 times before he’s wiped, which is maybe 1-2 more times than Uro or Ishigori can spam theirs back to back.
Lowkey they forgot that domains can nuffiey techniques
Hakari cant use his doors or ball or whatever during jackpot, due to technique burnout. Maybe near the end it would become available, but I think its likely his burnout is just extra long or set to last for the entire jackpot as a tradeoff.
Where is Hakari's assistant? I already forgot about him.
I want to put out there we dont know what his domain does to his output and his reinforcement it could increase it it also couldnt but his rough curse energy DOES increase his damage itadori said it felt like getting hit with a serreted bat and based on how they drew itadoris face after getting hit he was cut up
Well he doesn’t have to restore himself. He heals automatically so he has no wasted movement by using hand signs
Also as for a domain clash he has the fastest domain in the verse
Wasn't this the channel that ranked Druhv over ishigori and Uro? Everyone saying Drhuv is weak.
I don't think that he can take on senday colony by himself, he will need help
Where’s the Yuta vs Kashimo video?
He dying. That's all
Yuta tries to cut Kashimo, Kashimo smacks him in hand to hand
Then Yuta thinks about calling for Rika but is one shotted by a lightning in the head before even using full manifestation
@@guilha1506 do you really believe what you’re saying? If you think special grade Yuta is getting defeated by Grade 1 Kashimo then I don’t even know. Yes Kashimo is grade 1, though many jjk fans classify him as “grade 0”. He isn’t a threat to a nation or country so he’s not even special grade.
@@guilha1506 L comment. OGOATSU victims 💀
@@loidrowe7445 Kashimo grade 1 💀💀💀
Kashimo stomps EVERY SINGLE grade 1 together in less than 5 minutes
He was fighting Hakari on a roll, who is said to be stronger than Yuta (a special grade) in 4 different sources
Even when old, sick and dying he is said to be a good fight for Ryu Ishigori, same guy who was smashing Yuta in hand to hand and in a blast competition (also, same dude who one shotted Rika, whose presence made Yuta a special grade in volume 0)
To say that Kashimo is grade 1 is like saying that he gets neg diffed by Rika alone in volume 0
Respect to the take on this
Hakari needs a triple jackpot ability
Keep in mind that Hakari lacks empathy towards others and will struggle to lure out Kurourushi. He aimlessly roams until stumbling upon one of the pillars. Yuta successfully enticed the special-grade cursed spirit by gathering people in one location, knowing that the other two pillars were nearby. Considering that Hakari can defeat one pillar in precisely 4 minutes and 11 seconds, it's reasonable to question whether the ancient sorcerers lacked the cleverness to ambush Hakari during the cooldown of his domain expansion. It's important not to compare the impact of a lightning bolt to that of a granite blast. The lightning bolt caused severe damage, but Hakari was only saved by Jackpot's healing ability. A direct hit from a granite blast during the cooldown of his domain expansion would utterly obliterate Hakari, especially since he remains unaware of the pillar locations, making him vulnerable to an ambush.
No, Once Hakri activates domain expansion the other sorcerers would respond. Although Hakaris domain is more effective in a domain clash it wouldn't be a Jogo vs Gojo situation but more of a Dagon vs Megumi situation. Yes Dagon was guaranteed to win the domain clash but his domains effects where still negated. The same scenario would happen here, the other domains would loose but it doesn't matter because in the period of domains clashing Hakari would be wiped out.
Hakari is balanced around the fact that that he's only realy powerful against opponents without a Domain expansion
No way you just posted
People dont realise 4 minutes and 11 seconds is a long time in a fight
Couldn't they use domain expansion after hakari use his domain expansion and just obliterate him.
Hakari ain't surviving sendai...and that's it
Too many counters to his abilities
naaaaa
Thank you! I'm tired of the Kashimo/Hakari CAP
why doesn't hakari have some curse items or weapons it seems he in desperate need for some the same goes for itadory yugi
For me hakari was always going to lose against the sendai group or anyone who has range. Although hakari has unlimited cursed engery his problem is he has no out put for yuta, gojo, and ishagori they have massive amounts of curse energy almost bottomless from what we have seen but they can also out put all that power. Hakari is limited to arms reach with all his attacks and although when he has a jackpot his strength does increase it does not seem unmanageable for people on the level of ishagori or kishimo.
Thought it was stated that hakaris domain would win over anyone else’s bc of its weak attack component
Hakari is faster then yuta first thing and second thing is hakari wasn't trying to kill kashimo so he may have something up his sleeve
its hard hakari even if he has immortal hp he lacks power and fists cant touch uro as she can bend sky only was she was caught offgard was because rika was covering her view and yuta uses inumakis ct
i don’t think hakari could really come out on top on these , to me he’s just lacking that finishing blow to do anything properly past survive , i think if hakari wins then he wins by manipulating the others and making himself a part of the fight rather than being in a one on one
A lot can happen in 5 minutes as we could with his with Kashimo
I can't see Ishigori taking down Kinji tbh.