Can You Beat Grandmasters Without Building Pylons?

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  • @adnank4458
    @adnank4458 4 місяці тому +138

    Q: Can You Beat Grandmasters Without Building Pylons?
    Me: Yes, of course. If you choose Terran or Zerg.

  • @demxn-300
    @demxn-300 4 місяці тому +3

    man, this channel is a gem

  • @Zecr
    @Zecr 4 місяці тому

    Here's an idea for a challenge. Deny supply (target depots, pylons, and overlords)

  • @leafykille
    @leafykille 4 місяці тому +1

    The plat players on your channel are surprisingly good. I was definitely above the metal leagues, but I would probably loose to most of the plat players I have seen on your channel.

    • @thechessplayer8328
      @thechessplayer8328 4 місяці тому +1

      how long ago were you above the metal leagues? players are getting better as the game becomes less popular and only the more serious players remain

  • @KaitlynBurnellMath
    @KaitlynBurnellMath 4 місяці тому

    Curious to see if zerg is going to do better than this.
    My initial guess was that zerg would be the worst, cause hatcheries only give 6 supply compared to 15 for a Nexus.
    But looking at this, needing to build warp prisms to power stuff (warp prisms themselves eating precious supply), and needing to fill your bases with nexuses that couldn't even build anything and had nothing to chronoboost seemed so inefficient. At least with a base full of hatcheries the hatcheries can build stuff you care about, and you can build stuff in every base.
    And...honestly, the fact that your supply goes down when you morph a building as zerg will also probably be an upside for zerg--you frequently needed to kill probes in this challenge to free up supply, but morphing a building has got to be a much better way to free up supply.

  • @bakajanai.
    @bakajanai. 4 місяці тому

    taking the artosis pylon to the next level

  • @mortiferohd
    @mortiferohd 4 місяці тому +1

    Challenge lost: 5:40 ;)

  • @DeletedTaters001
    @DeletedTaters001 4 місяці тому

    Come on guys. There's clearly an "S" in the title.
    Let the man have his semi-clickbait UA-cam title : )
    We wouldn't have a video series if he wasn't allowed to build one

  • @kmclennan1
    @kmclennan1 Місяць тому

    warp prism

  • @CaReY4959
    @CaReY4959 4 місяці тому

    Just play as zerg

  • @reznya2700
    @reznya2700 4 місяці тому +2

    Sorry but you ruined the challenge first game you went into supply negative when you killed that plyon and even after you lost probes. That Pylon supplied product.

  • @chawlz
    @chawlz 4 місяці тому +104

    You must construct additional nexii.

  • @vincentgo5297
    @vincentgo5297 4 місяці тому +30

    If you do the no overlord challenge you absolutely have to neural a probe and build a bunch of pylons or something :D

  • @domacleod
    @domacleod 4 місяці тому +38

    "artosis pylon but instructions unclear, so there can only be one"

    • @taunggoy
      @taunggoy 4 місяці тому +3

      the highlander pylon

  • @slimpwarrior
    @slimpwarrior 4 місяці тому +34

    Petition to rename the challenge to "With only 1 pylon"

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 4 місяці тому +1

      agreed

    • @J6hn
      @J6hn 4 місяці тому +6

      I vote "must not construct additional pylons" since it doesn't rule out having one.

    • @sageryfrekenstein
      @sageryfrekenstein 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean did someone EARNESTLY think he's just gonna use probes lol that's just a really elaborate way to say "Protoss Worker Rush"
      Edit: mfw 30 seconds into the video it says "Lone Pylon" y'all wild

  • @balazsfenyes3880
    @balazsfenyes3880 4 місяці тому +12

    This looks like a campaign where you are learning warp prism skills, finding a long lost expedition base without pylons and powering them up with prisms.

  • @greenwolfx
    @greenwolfx 4 місяці тому +13

    “Highlander Artosis Pylon” There can only be one!!
    new challenge name.

  • @sageryfrekenstein
    @sageryfrekenstein 4 місяці тому +9

    The Warp Prism is the powerhouse of the Protoss

    • @exeggcutebenedict
      @exeggcutebenedict 3 місяці тому

      I also think observers are really strong mechanics. They cost little 1 supply but give you so much info all game long

  • @stardrifter2872
    @stardrifter2872 4 місяці тому +6

    Challenge suggestion: You have to build Mothership before 10mins and if you lose the Mothership, you lose the game.

  • @jorgereyes3110
    @jorgereyes3110 4 місяці тому +4

    Protoss swifting power between stargates, robos and cannons depending on the situation at 24:10 is the most satisfying thing ever, lore accurate like in real life wars

  • @ericp7
    @ericp7 4 місяці тому +2

    "Can You Beat Grandmasters Without Building Pylons?"
    Sure if you play Zerg.

  • @tohothewriter8002
    @tohothewriter8002 4 місяці тому +6

    SC1 Nexus gives 9 supply. SC1 Zerg start with 9 supply, 1 from the Hatchery and 8 from the Overlord.

  • @proape6052
    @proape6052 4 місяці тому +17

    The ultimate Artosis pylon.

  • @MarkusBindig
    @MarkusBindig 4 місяці тому +13

    Platinum should get some of the money. The pylon you built saved you from getting supply blocked at a critical moment.

    • @MikeTall88
      @MikeTall88 4 місяці тому +1

      Eh..no? That pylon had no impact. The oracle would have attacked anyway and was out of energy when the Carriers arrived. The pylon was Bad for him, as stated in the video.

    • @MarkusBindig
      @MarkusBindig 4 місяці тому +1

      @@MikeTall88 Look at the supply.

  • @AlexLusth
    @AlexLusth 4 місяці тому +2

    Artosis would be proud...or probably angry, since its...you know....Artosis

  • @SupaKrupa
    @SupaKrupa 4 місяці тому +1

    Suggestion: bonus prize for challengers that actually win too and guess the challenge correctly. That way if they kill you too quickly, they don't have enough scouting or info for the guess. But if they go too long, they risk losing.

  • @richardkiefer4748
    @richardkiefer4748 4 місяці тому +1

    Answer: yes, choose Zerg or Terran.

  • @nassattack
    @nassattack 4 місяці тому

    weird, your last couple videos haven't shown up on my subscriptions page. I only found them cause I look at my recommended videos like a baboon.

  • @avinotion
    @avinotion 4 місяці тому +1

    31:50
    "cretty prazy"
    I've finally found someone who has the same speech problem (wouldn't call it impediment) as me.
    And no, it's not spoonerism.

  • @generaljellyroll8737
    @generaljellyroll8737 4 місяці тому

    I guess I don't understand rapid fire. I have it set to "C" and select the skill or action I want from any given unit, then hold down shift+C. I use it for everything with Zerg and toss. Phenix lift ups and fun with rapid fire.

  • @talismanTVsc2
    @talismanTVsc2 4 місяці тому

    hello my fav youtube :)

  • @cole-nq1ru
    @cole-nq1ru 4 місяці тому

    You shouldn't be allowed to rebuild your pylon. It makes things more fun and interesting. Also provides an interesting weak point and handicap against lower ranked players. It's like if you're playing chess and the pylon is the king.

  • @DarkSaruman
    @DarkSaruman 3 місяці тому

    The 2nd game was crazy.
    Entertaining challenge!
    The only thing I'd change for these videos is to give credit where credit is due.
    From what I understood most of these challenges are suggested by the community and I think it would be fair to give a shout out to the person who had the challenge idea at the beginning of the video.

  • @hectormisaelgd
    @hectormisaelgd 4 місяці тому

    Hey thermy, how about you make a new challenge, immortality to grandmaster, you can only build immortals and Phoenix 😁 it would be freaking cool

  • @QuantenMagier
    @QuantenMagier 4 місяці тому

    ERROR: "Lone Pylon Challenge" not found, did you mean "True Artosis Pylon Challenge"!?!

  • @dustbc9094
    @dustbc9094 3 місяці тому

    So the title of the video does a funny thing when you scroll through other videos on yt while it's playing in the reduced window.
    You shouldn't beat Grandma.

  • @whateverppl1229
    @whateverppl1229 4 місяці тому +1

    I really love all the prisms as pylons

  • @mohsins.3851
    @mohsins.3851 3 місяці тому

    I want to say the challenge is to play zerg but without spreading creap, but I remembered you do that everytime you play zerg xD

  • @blakewang2373
    @blakewang2373 2 місяці тому

    How do I play with you? I'm a gold level player, I would love to be in one of your videos!

  • @jeremyjones6219
    @jeremyjones6219 4 місяці тому

    Minimap only challenge. See if you can win by not using your main screen. Or try to win without moving your starting camera location

  • @gabrielbuhuceanu9151
    @gabrielbuhuceanu9151 4 місяці тому

    I missed a few of your latest videos. Now i see you look like a retired lepricon 😅 gratz.
    GLHF

  • @CJICantLie
    @CJICantLie 4 місяці тому

    Why is UA-cam hiding you from subs? This video does not show in subscriptions, but shows on my recommended.

  • @taoroalin
    @taoroalin 4 місяці тому

    need more chrono boost! You had so much energy all the time, not in the habit of chronoing literally everything in the mid game

  • @soldier22881
    @soldier22881 4 місяці тому +2

    that is really cool, its interesting to see if you need certain production you switch the warp prism power to a different group of buildings. interesting challenge +1

    • @missbelled6700
      @missbelled6700 4 місяці тому +2

      Would have been a very cool idea for a campaign mission

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 4 місяці тому +1

      @@missbelled6700 agreed, unfortunately most of the sc2 missions are just timed missions =/

  • @noname-zf5tb
    @noname-zf5tb 4 місяці тому

    What about combination prism+cannons+BATTERY(to save prism)?

  • @JourardsThoughts
    @JourardsThoughts 4 місяці тому

    You baited me with the title. Thought you were doing the old school Dragon type mass probe rush lol

  • @JeffSlover
    @JeffSlover 4 місяці тому +1

    That was a crazy challenge! It's impressive to see what your mind comes up with!

  • @bobbob-gg4eo
    @bobbob-gg4eo 4 місяці тому

    How long do they have after the match to make their guess? Can they watch the replay?

  • @macadaymo9226
    @macadaymo9226 4 місяці тому

    you can beat anyone without building a pylon.. just play zerg or terran

  • @jimbob9407
    @jimbob9407 3 місяці тому

    To truly make it no pylon. Use the pylon to get to robo for prism. Then kill the pylon

  • @bretthogan5805
    @bretthogan5805 4 місяці тому

    Strictly speaking as a Terran player:
    No, I still lose to GMs

  • @oki7716
    @oki7716 3 місяці тому

    Next episode, can you beat grandmaster with critters ...

  • @woti1337
    @woti1337 4 місяці тому

    Next Challange is Zerg without Overlords xD

  • @enlightenerr8342
    @enlightenerr8342 4 місяці тому

    Haha, I was about to comment that you could have afforded like 20 gateways for mutas before stargates were ready, but Haha! That was the entire point all the time that there is no space. Tho, with 4 warprisms from those robos, then maybe 😁 Maybe there were not time for that tho

    • @enlightenerr8342
      @enlightenerr8342 4 місяці тому

      And yea, there were no warp gate, so it would not have been on time

  • @worldlylexicon671
    @worldlylexicon671 4 місяці тому

    First thing he does is build a pylon. Challenge failed

  • @clivah1499
    @clivah1499 4 місяці тому

    Be careful with giving away money. I hope that you won't get bothered for offering 50 bucks.

    • @clivah1499
      @clivah1499 4 місяці тому

      If you need tips, make sure to ask people what they will spend the money on. It should... help.
      Grains of salt are appreciated.

  • @5ur3nh0hn
    @5ur3nh0hn 4 місяці тому

    next challange: cannon rush with warp prisms!

  • @akeustis
    @akeustis 4 місяці тому

    just choose a race that doesn't use pylons XD

  • @stephenkaake7016
    @stephenkaake7016 4 місяці тому

    consult a psyonist if nexii is right for you

  • @ToiletTennis
    @ToiletTennis 4 місяці тому

    Day 1 of asking for a new BongCloud video

  • @LorasInSpace
    @LorasInSpace 4 місяці тому

    Can we do this but with Hatcheries? :D

  • @PuppyM0dr
    @PuppyM0dr 2 місяці тому

    todays challenge is to be artosis

  • @CeriTsujimura
    @CeriTsujimura 4 місяці тому

    Artosis Pylon: The Challenge

  • @visceraljourney
    @visceraljourney 4 місяці тому

    Could you do a Brood Lord rush challenge?

  • @sellis2819
    @sellis2819 4 місяці тому

    making artosis proud with this one

  • @MrActiBif
    @MrActiBif 4 місяці тому

    Next step, can i win GM with 0 pop?

  • @rocier
    @rocier 4 місяці тому

    how does he increase his supply?

  • @flamerollerx01
    @flamerollerx01 4 місяці тому

    I know a different challenge with an amusing loophole, but it requires you to play zerg. Can you beat grandmasters without building overlords? All you gotta do is make infestors and mind control a probe/scv and then build their buildings and supply.

  • @Андрей-ю2р6л
    @Андрей-ю2р6л 4 місяці тому

    You can if you play zerg or terran

  • @SecretClubVideos
    @SecretClubVideos 4 місяці тому

    next hes not going to make workers.

  • @bissekerskij
    @bissekerskij 4 місяці тому

    you may use warp prism to build cannons in your main or anywhere really

    • @Diogenes2077
      @Diogenes2077 4 місяці тому

      Him. Cannon drops. Seems fun. Until anti air. Shows up before the cannons are done.

  • @mitsidstevgttab2677
    @mitsidstevgttab2677 4 місяці тому

    This challenge was INTERESTING 👏👏👏👌👌🥳🥳 fantastic entertainment in these challenge-games

  • @alsto8298
    @alsto8298 4 місяці тому

    Well, that was tough. The next SECRET CHALLENGE of morphing only one overlord will be so hard to guess though...

  • @martykowal
    @martykowal 4 місяці тому

    this is one hell of a challenge

  • @Nekoyashiki-san
    @Nekoyashiki-san 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the fun! ^^

  • @joeb787
    @joeb787 4 місяці тому

    You are a monster thermy !

  • @espernova228
    @espernova228 4 місяці тому

    the way to use artosis pylon is to fit 2 structure perfectly split next to a pylon. then expand it outward. u will see u can fit 2 cannons next to the pylon after u fill the structure
    o o
    o o
    . 0 .
    o o
    o o
    then fit 8 structures left (perfect split)
    o o o o
    .
    0
    .
    o o o o
    this is my knowledge of playing Artanis in coop with free maximum supply

  • @anderandersson5229
    @anderandersson5229 4 місяці тому

    I would have cheated 😅

  • @MrTheSmoon
    @MrTheSmoon 4 місяці тому +4

    You should try cannon drops just rush warp prism with 3 zealots 2 probes and try to get up some cannons in the enemy base

  • @DavidJohnsonFromSeattle
    @DavidJohnsonFromSeattle 4 місяці тому

    The problem with the warp prisms you need more than 1 to power stuff. Otherwise, you end up in an Artosis pylon situation.

  • @kalujny
    @kalujny 4 місяці тому

    I bet he can. He's been doing this for years as Terran, before going full time content creator.

  • @whateverppl1229
    @whateverppl1229 4 місяці тому

    I would have figured one pylon only as well, but I've always loved the idea of only one pylon but was never good enough to win a game

  • @killerspoon13
    @killerspoon13 4 місяці тому

    In these challenges where you have to guess the challenge, looks like it's really best to draw out the game so you have more time to think about it

  • @aaronsalentine7876
    @aaronsalentine7876 4 місяці тому

    😂 400 minerals.

  • @novatwist5816
    @novatwist5816 4 місяці тому

    It was actually so funny, it made my day. Ty so much i loved the idea.

  • @afusmackdown
    @afusmackdown 4 місяці тому

    That was fun!

  • @domacleod
    @domacleod 4 місяці тому

    How about a "workers are innocent" challenge where you're not allowed to destroy any buildings and can't kill workers unless those workers attack you? You can only kill combat units. Damaging buildings is fine, casualties of war exist, you're just not allowed to order your units to open fire on them (a-move still counts as ordering your units to do it, so does moving and letting them idle near buildings / workers).
    Exception for defensive structures - you can destroy cannons, batteries, pylons (pylons are just floaty crystals, no workers inside), turrets, bunkers, spores, spines.

    • @domacleod
      @domacleod 3 місяці тому

      @tompeng8248 it's an idea thrown in the void not a thesis chill out

  • @maximusstrength157
    @maximusstrength157 4 місяці тому

    1 cannon is a crazy challenge!!!!! But unlimited chronoboosts!

  • @newbie_q
    @newbie_q 4 місяці тому

    thepowermanager
    look like good nickname for this challenge

  • @JasonAuger-gs4ve
    @JasonAuger-gs4ve 4 місяці тому

    I did this with supply depots, had mules for days.

  • @rdon
    @rdon 4 місяці тому

    Artosis Pylon vs Uthermal Prism

  • @savvylildancer
    @savvylildancer 4 місяці тому

    opponent: dbl gas
    uthermal: Triple gas :)

  • @nimbus9056
    @nimbus9056 4 місяці тому

    glorious warp prisms for pylons

  • @YungAvenger
    @YungAvenger 4 місяці тому +1

    Unsub and unfollow
    Have a good life. I'll go find a better terran to watch

  • @christianr9649
    @christianr9649 4 місяці тому

    Very nice idea.

  • @Kirk.television
    @Kirk.television 4 місяці тому

    Let's go!

  • @OlafAntczak-h7s
    @OlafAntczak-h7s 4 місяці тому +1

    Dont play protoss, no need to thank.😊

  • @ParleLeVu
    @ParleLeVu 4 місяці тому +102

    But you did build a pylon. So, no, you can't.

    • @q-marit
      @q-marit 4 місяці тому +8

      Nächste challenge
      Ohne Tastatur und Maus !

    • @johnlindecker5095
      @johnlindecker5095 4 місяці тому +63

      He built a pylon, not pylons, so it still counts right?

    • @joeking5215
      @joeking5215 4 місяці тому +19

      You do realize word "pylon" is singular and "pylons" is plural?

    • @brian7711
      @brian7711 4 місяці тому

      It says no PylonS, we're allowed to have one. ua-cam.com/video/W7rSYzbpA8k/v-deo.html

    • @gabrielpowers766
      @gabrielpowers766 4 місяці тому +7

      He built two in game one.

  • @maxridstromdorr6176
    @maxridstromdorr6176 4 місяці тому

    @uThermal Hey man, I don't usually comment, but you need to know that despite me being subscribed to you, I don't get your videos in the feed of my subscriptions for some reason. I don't know if you can "message UA-cam" about that or why I don't see them, but might be interesting or good for you to know.

    • @nephremka
      @nephremka 4 місяці тому

      I'm also experiencing this issue.

  • @LarryWasHere
    @LarryWasHere 4 місяці тому

    No Queens!