Why the Alcohol Stove?
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2020
- I often use the alcohol stove on my hikes. Here is how I use it and why, the limits and benefits. The stove is the Trangia Triangle with the alcohol burner. Choose the right stove and fuel for the right purpose, they all have their benefits and limits.
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Which stove do you like best? What are the pros and cons?
Cheap ebay gas stove that comes in that orange plastic case. It works and is lite. The bad is that the pot/pan hinges are to small so a flat surface is absolutely needed to keep sturdy.
I use different ones, gas and wodden are my two go to. I do have an alcohol stove too but I rarely use it
@sid shamrock is that the one with a pump action fuel bottle?
stoveless
I just bought a Trangia and the bottle you have as well.....however, I have been using an alcohol stove that came with a kit from Pathfinder. The kit comes with the stove with wind screen / stand as well as a metal water bottle nested into a sizable metal cup. It also has a cheap but effective plastic bottle for fuel. Inexpensive and complete...it never has failed me.
I bought my Trangia in 1987. After hundreds of trips it still works perfectly. Fantastic.
Probably due to zero moving parts😅
Why can’t all reviews be like that? Relaxed, informative, this is the stove I use and why I use it.
Amen
Really? I found the review horrible.
Barely any information given on pros/cons.
Then the huge overdimensioned alcohol bottle.
Also alcohol is not more enviromental friendly. 2022 there was a study that concluded 24% more CO2 is released by alcohol manufacturing and burning compared to using gasoline.
If he cares about the enviroment then he should get a wood hobo
For me, my alcohol stove is perfect in most circumstances. I will happily take mine on multi day trips.
It is silent, which is an important part. No roaring of gas.
It is light weight.
I can carry just the amount of fuel I know I will need. I know that my stove will take 30ml alcohol to boil 250ml water. No more guessing how much gas is in the canister.
Alcohol is easy to find in any corner store or small town supermarket. Gas canisters are not.
Melts snow better than gas. It works better in freezing conditions.
I happily keep my alcohol in a reused water bottle.
Good to see others using alcohol stoves for similar reasons. We have all the time in the world.
Keeep my alcohol in a "Irn-Bru" Scottish plastic bottle. Those things are still light but crazy over-engineered. I'm a big guy but I can stand on one (full of water) with my boots on and it didn't split. Plus it gives me a beam of joy to see an Irn-Bru bottle (Scottish pride!).
Let's say you go somewhere remote, there is the occasional garage, corner store like you say. Which alcohol could you use in it, theoretically? I heard someone used hand sanitizer even. If true, that's pretty amazing.
@@ryand141 I'm in Europe. I use Alcool a bruler 90° which is easily available. It costs a couple euros for a litre. I hear Americans mentioning Heet yellow...
@@darthkek1953 Haha, im guessing the alchohol is leeching plastics out of the bottle. Which is why special bottles are often sold. But if you dont store in in there long therm it should be okay.
30ml should burn for around 20 mins, so you should be able to boil more than 250ml of water in that time?
Does everyone else return the thumbs up on all the videos? Not just me I expect.
yup and normally have my coffee too...after all we have to increase Erik's shares in his coffee plantation 🤣☕🤙
Yes, absolutely! And if he doesn't do it like in some of his earlier videos i'm waiting with baited breath and so disappointed when it doesn't come!
Your vids are so calming
I could have this guy narrate any story and it would set my mind at ease..
I bought the Trangia Stormcooker (small 27 size, not the 25) and alcohol stove after watching some of your videos. Now I use it for any short solo trip! Your philosophy on taking time to let it make your coffee is a lesson well learned in today's hectic world. Peace comes from slowing down!
glad you got to appreciate the ceremony too. not waiting impatiently, but watching the flames and warming your hands, listening to the woods and that tiny kettle, on a cold autumn morning. (the tent open, but leaving your sleeping bag as little as possible yet) relishing comfort and convenience of the tiny fire you brought .. maybe even thinking about times long before that kind of comfort, while you smell your coffee steeping.
a very zen experience.
my 6 years old son loves your videos! he always asks me when we are going to do all those thing that gentleman is doing
Hi Eric, I still have a memory from just after the war when I acquired a German ":Term" alcohol stove, very efficient it was too but heavy then I bought a "Trangia" which I still have after all these years. The pot set is long gone but the stove is indestructible and still in regular use and still by far the most reliable; all my long walks have been with this stove and I would not be without it for anything. As you said silent and slow, not the best for fuel efficiency, but a one hundred percent renewable and environmentally safe fuel, and at my time of life slow is what I do best!
Your kettle is as cool as your alcohol stove.👍🏻 Good luck Erik~
For me to watch you silently go around and put things for youself is like doing a sort of Meditation.
Calm.
Love, from India.
I liked your creative use of focus in this video.
The sustainability of alcohol fuel makes a big difference to me. Ethanol is grown on the surface rather than extracted by drilling, which is so important, and there is no empty canister to throw away at the end of the trip. I prefer to use wood when I can of course, in a gasifier or a in small pile of stones. When I use a stove, I mostly use a Coleman Stove in a Can, which is a cheap wicking liquid fuel stove that is marketed as disposable, but is actually very easy to refill with alcohol. It is slow burning but I bet it's good in the winter because of the wick, not that I'd know, I always have a fire in the winter.
1:58 I'm not in a hurry, I'm all the time in the world! 👍
He said pretty clearly ... I have all the time in the world
Is English your native language?
It's hard for me to judge. This language is not my native language, but in my opinion, he spoke clearly and quite unambiguously.
1:56 "I'm not in a hurry. I have all the time in the World.." =)
Just had a long day of relational concentrating. Came home after three hours driving as well. Sharing a few minutes with you. Your measured sharing and plain speaking. Your moment of noticing the raven, prioritizing the moment you were in over the 'job' of talking to us. Exactly what I needed. That shifted my perception "up and out" in the gentlest way. Thanks for being you and sharing with me.
Thanks Mikel!
Lovely scenery, how well you blend in (physically and emotionally)! The Reindeer Moss fascinates. Good lesson on the stove. Thank you for another great vid, Erik. Keep well.
Thanks!
The magic touch is always there. Thank you Erik.
Awesome as always!!!! Love it. Stay safe and well, Eric.
Thanks Erik again for high-quality content! Very relaxing and well-managed without any hurry. Greetings from Finland
You sir, are a most interesting camper. (American slang for eclectic person) and as a fellow interesting camper I love your videos. I use alcohol stoves when we have a power outage to make coffee ☕ same hobo style as you. I just made my alcohol stove from a discarded beer can using an ice pick. Works exactly like this. Amazing videos sir, thanks for the time involved in videoing (?) and editing and the solitude of the woods!
Nice video. I've been using the same Trangia burner for over 25 years. I carry a small plastic funnel, weighing less than a half ounce, taking up virtually no pack space, and use it to put the unused fuel in the burner back into the fuel bottle. I can't understand why so few Trangia reviews mention this. It's a simple way to solve the problem of unused fuel.
Silence and time.
Two of the most important things in life the most of the people just not think about!
Since years I slow down myself and my life as much as possible. I just don't want to be in an hurry anymore and especially not stressed.
My time is there for me.
And if I have the possibility I spend it in silent nature.
It is always wonderful to hear your gear philosophy... I use trangia myself and for sometimes, shifted to a mini alcohal stove ( cat can type), that not only has a pot stand but also small enough to fit inside Toaks 500 ml mug, along with wind shield, gas lighter, coffee sachets and mini fuel bottle... Works for me for short hikes....
I FELT LIKE I WAS RIGHT THERE CHILLING OUT. YOU HAVE A VERY CALMING EFFECT.
So chilled, so calm and very much at peace with himself and the world. Great stuff! An example for us all to live longer. Thank you Erik. :)
Erik- Thank you for explaining. That is very helpful. I appreciated your comment about how this type of stove is quiet. -Carl
I did not expect such a poetic little film, beautiful work!
A heavenly moment! Stay safe Erik.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Erik. I didn't know about the benefits of using a match but will try it for myself. All the best.
Again a great video! Nice anorak too!
Thank you for your relaxing video this sundaymorning!
Keep up the good work and stay healthy in the woods! 👍🏻
It's winter here. First rain of winter came today. And watching your videos while in blanket is the best way to cherish the cold weather.
A master at making any content almost meditative 👍🏼 cheers Erik
Tack för alla fina videos, älskar dem. Får mig alltid så lugn!
What a beautiful spot. Really like my alcohol stoves too. Thanks for the video. Take care and stay safe, Al
These videos and the videos of wise Jon Jandai (permaculture farmer) get my week off to a good start. My father did a lot of research into ethanol during his 20 years in Africa to help the rural communities.
Brilliant again Erik - look forward to the next one.
The Trangia stove and kit are my go to kit..light , clean burning and easy to find fuel. I have a white gas stove as well, but it is noisy and somewhat heavy. Great videos. Cheers from Nova Scotia. M.
I love my Trangia burners - please note the "s!" Yes, I have several of them and use them regularly for all the reasons you mentioned, especially the silence. thanks for your lovely video...love the ravens with you...ATB
I wish I could sloooow down like you Erik. Love your channel. Calming and thank you.
A great conversation on alcohol stoves and use. Ravens are always looking and talking. I just passed on a Sigg cooker set from the 1960s that was made to work with an alcohol burner like the Trangia. I may look it back up.
Lovely peaceful place for your cup of coffee. I also never put myself into a position of being rushed when out in nature. I enjoy every minute with much appreciation. Thanks for the info on your stove.
The quiet, 100% agree. The scene here wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable with a pressurized gas stove roaring back at the birds.
I was solo camping in the woods when you posted this and happened to go back to an internet spot the day this was posted. Was pretty cool to see you doing the same kind of thing also.
Possibly the most calming review I have seen. Makes me want to try one.
That is why I use the same stove and windscreen. Never had to go with out my tea. I also figured where it was made it must be good. It is part of relaxing adding enjoying. Thanks for posting. Be well and Trail on!
I was just out for a little hike today (on Mt Hood in Oregon USA) ..I used my little gas canister stove to heat up some noodle soup and coffee under a beautiful light snow fall. The only problem - the noise :) it really does disrupt the silence. I think I'll try an alcohol stove for exactly this reason. Plus, I'm also in no hurry.
Hello momobad. May i ask you how the current wildfires situation is in Oregon/ around your area, or Bend/Sisters? Thank you for a message. Cheers from Switzerland.
@@chrisfrueh3148 Hey, thanks for asking. The fire situation is under control now (AFAIK), but there was a lot of devastation. The towns of Bend and Sisters themselves were not burned - but the area around Detroit Lake (to the west of Sisters) was pretty bad - I drove through there a couple weeks ago and was amazed at the destruction. Its really hard to describe.
You can see maps of the fires here: www.oregon.gov/odf/fire/pages/firestats.aspx
@@momobadilak Thanks a lot Mo, for your reply and link. Do you know Joel van der Loon from Bush Survival Training in Sisters? Best regards from Chris.
@@chrisfrueh3148 I don't know Joel - i'll look him up :)
Hello from Eugene! I would love to start using an alcohol stove for all the reasons Erik has pointed out, but I haven't been able to find alcohol anywhere since March... Where are you buying alcohol these days? I've checked everywhere and still no luck. Any tips would be much appreciated.
I was going to write the same type of comment 'H' made about time...if only everyone tried to have the same mindset. Great instructional content. I have a Trangia that is my go-to on most outings. I always bring a twig stove too as it weighs nothing and gives me the comfort to know I have a backup. Two is one, one is none.
I could listen to you all day. I love how the raven was more important than your movie! I just came back from a winter hike with my home made alcohol stove and I agree about simplicity and reliability.
Just bought and tried an alcohol stove like yours. Have always used gas or primus liquid stoves before. Thanks for another great video.👍
I have a Trangia filled up in my pack on most day trips or overnighters. If I want a cuppa before getting to camp or before getting the fire going it is nice to have an option to fall back to. Just a nice nostalgic but useful little backup.
A great vídeo Erik. I am also a big fan of the alcohol stove. It’s my go-to stove and I agree it’s much better for the environment. Thanks and take care. Ben
Thanks Erik.
I've used probably every kind of stove but if I had to choose a favourite it would be one that uses the Trangia burner for all the reasons you give. I find only the very occasional one is not fuel-tight, so I keep the good ones and get rid of any that leak. Efficiency is a concept we don't need to worry about so much in the woods. A 1 litre Trangia bottle will last for a long time.
Noel
I usually use canister stoves, but fuel has been hard to come by here in Canada due to COVID. So this year I started trying out a homemade alcohol stove, using a design I'm actually satisfied with. My friends are usually impressed with the resourcefulness and the ingenuity of such a simple stove.
Nice presentation Erik!
Very good arguments! I have one of these Trangias, too.
Excellent video, nice to see you doing a bit of discussion about gear.
Thanks Kevin, it's a good time of the year for making this type of content.
Thank you for the video. I also enjoy using alcohol stoves. I have several different types. I also enjoy building them from time to time.
I have seen lots of camping videos and gear. But your gear is the best, effective and least bulky of them all. No fancy equipments, everything is functional and to the point with regards to your gear ❤️❤️
Thanks for this video, Erik!
I'd love to see how you prepare for your tripos in advance and how you get to the beginning of your hike!
Terrific information. We need to get our Trangia stove back out and use it. We stopped because we cannot find a fuel bottle that does not leak. We will look harder. Thank you.
Two devices that the new ones can’t beat are the Trangia burner and the German military mess kit. Both have the same two features: simplicity and reliability. When conditions are bad, their value becomes clear.
Well done. As always.
Thank you for this, Erik 👍 I use alcohol, gas and kerosene depending on the temperature and situation. Definitely like the alcohol one for exactly the reasons you mentioned 😊 Have a nice Sunday 😃
Simple and reliable nothing else matters out there. Time is a manmade concept thats falls apart when you are outdoors...so it never counts. All the best from germany! May the old gods always be with you.
I never thought of the silence factor! This is now on my Christmas wish list.
Short and sweet, perfect.
I always return the thumps up watching his videos👍🏼🌲🖤
I mainly use alcohol stoves for same reasons. I use gas a little bit but have also just started using trangia gel burner which is also very good and easy to carry gel blocks in kettle and anywhere you can fit them. 👍
Thanks for the explanation. I use in my hikes a gas stove.
as usual, seems to be a very strong coffee - enjoy the the coffee and the time you dedicated for !
Nice video,. I’ve had the Trangia triangle for a while now and use it with my 27 kettle. I just love the simplicity of it and like you I never feel speed is important. I use Bio Ethanol.
My MSR Windpro gas stove is good but I very rarely use it. It’s fair to say my Trangia is my go to stove 90% of the time.
Hope you’re well Erik my friend? Love the camera work and use of focus. Winter is definitely upon us now!
Nothing compares to a Trangia, I actually find myself using mine (I have a really old model Trangia 27 that had the thicker metal and without cut out for the gas burner) more than my MSR pocket rocket gas stove these days. Too noisy, literally pocket rocket by name and nature it’s like a jet engine! I never find it gives the same sense of calm and satisfaction as using the Trangia. I use BioEthanol in mine now, much cleaner burn than Meths and no taste. Boils water about a minute or so slower than the MSR so alcohol is not as slow as people think!
Look after yourself Erik. All the best.
I think the best part is the smell. Lovely!
Alcohol stoves are lightweight (specially DIY ones) and silent. True. I have not used my Trangia for some years now. Every time when I pack up for a hike, I decide to take my lightweight canister stove (BRS+100g canister) or go stoveless in warm weather conditions. Canister stove setup is easy, cheap (when you refill canister), lighweight and convenient to use +safer to handle as liquid alkohol stoves. I keep my Trangia cook set only for canoe trips in scandinavia, where weight dont matters. Great video Erik!
Good Morning Erik ..
Yes, why Alcohol? One cannot fault your reasoning .. my favourite fuel 👍.
What I also like about alcohol fuel is it's availability. Here in Switzerland .. almost everywhere .. and it's cheap.
Besides my Trangia, I also use a myriad of little home-made Alcohol Burners filled with Glass Wool which soaks up the fuel therein and reduces enormously the threat of accidental spillage.
Unused fuel? One gets to judge how much is required .. and rather less than more. If I have to refill, ok .. I have time.
Good tip regarding the match. I picked up on this a while back and started doing it .. thanks.
Take care ..
Thanks Thomas! The glass wool trick was interesting. Atb
@@erik_normark 👍
@@erik_normark Rather than glass wool, try carbon fiber felt ... won’t melt at as low temp,, and wicks the fuel very nicely. Available at welders’ supply stores and thst large online retailer.
What do you mean about the wool? Can you use the stove with the wool inside? I don't understand what you mean. Thx.
@@ryand141 I have used my Trangia, filled with Glass Wool and then topped with a strip of tightly-rolled Carbon Cloth to keep everything in place for a while now and will never go back.
Very much reduced risk of spillage in case of a knock over. Stove lights up easier in below-freezing temperatures. The pot can be put onto the stand immediately thereafter without having to wait for the 'bloom' .. the still cold stove will not 'snuff' out. Stove performance .. to the eye .. does not appear to be affected so as to be of concern.
Try it.
Your videos have a great atmosphere! Personally I have only been using my Trangia spirit stove since I first tried it. Can stock up with fuel just about everywhere and it's cheap.
Very nice. The first ice gives it a nice touch. I hope I don‘t have to wait much longer for it to build here in Switzerland. Greetings
Wonderfully slow and informative video/talk/review
I see you using this stove but it’s nice to hear the pros and cons and the match trick.
Little demos like this are most welcome especially in the beautiful woods..take care 🇨🇦 🔥
Thanks Sue, glad you like it! :)
I'm with you, I love the alcohol stove for short tarp camping trips. I won't use it in the vestibule of a tent though. So it can be a bit of a problem in bad weather. Nice relaxing video to watch! 👍
Thank you for a good reviev 👍 Never tryed one, I might give it a try actually, time is what I really got allot of when Im out.
Thanks for the cold weather lighting tip. I'll give it a try next time I'm out in cold weather. Love my Trangia stoves for the quiet and simplicity of design. I built a few Fancee Feest stoves some using woven fiberglass and some with carbon fiber felt. Their lighter than the Trangia and have a built in pot stand.
You can warm it by body heat.
Hi Erik now it time for me to go out . The first step probably is the more difficult. Some personal advice from you! Nice video the images are amazing. Thanks for the information about alcohol for 🔥
This Man 👨 is Just outstanding 👏 👌 he give one of the premium videos 📹 of UA-cam
Wonderful mate love it
Informative video & very relaxed. Just subscribed 👍
Looks like a beautiful place for a hike
I always use my Trangia alcohol stove when I don’t make a fire. The simplicity and quiet operation is paramount to me. When I’m in the woods I’m in no rush...
Happiness is in simple things ... Thank you
Build your own! Great tip about the wooden match.
This mate reviews a Trangia stove as he's acting in a dramatic/survival movie. Long pauses, deep voice, the looks, the raven passing by. I want a movie out of it and with him :) Thanks Mr Erik, I enjoyed the video a lot :)
Good videos mate. Calm voice. Simple approach.
I Like the Trangia too 👍
Thanks for sharing..
Just Subscribed..
A trangia style stove is on the list to add to my camping gear. The tough part is trying to decide on the rest of the kit to go with it. I know they make a pretty large cook set that works with it but I see most people using it with some kind of flat pack stainless or titanium stove like you do here.
Edit: Also.. What a BEAUTIFUL place for a hike.
Beautiful nature. So peaceful place
I agree - a Swedish product that works absolutely reliably, like many others from Swedes such as Hilleberg, Lundhags, Klättermusen or Fjällräven.
Can't forget about the roll x
I have put away my gas stove and gone with a mini Trangia. I believe the Trangia is better all round environmentally and I will not be going back to the gas. Thank you for your lovely video, so chilled.
Trangia stove is the best stove ever. From minimalist triangle or 28 mini to a 25 with gas for family car camping, or 27 with a Nova multifuel burner for expedition. I use them all, the simple and silent alcohol burner, as you say silent and no rush.
Maybe try the BioEthanol Gel burner for even more lightweight and environmentally friendly
I've always wondered why you leave a match stick inside of alcohol stove. Good lesson learned today. TY🙏🪔🏕
Simple is good. I use my alcohol stove when I car camp, especially if its too cold to use a propane stove. Also, I don't have to worry about storing the fuel, unlike a gas stove. I've also used it in my house when the power went out after a storm, I just use it in one of my iron frying pans on the stove (to contain any spills).