Dude from a former Master ASE Jag technician, You are a magnificent V twin tech, best ever , you truly are a Master Harley Tech! awesome work and honesty cannot be found in the business these days.Keep up the great work!!
Graciously sharing knowledge is the one of the greatest gifts that you can give to your fellow man. I salute you for taking the time and effort to put these videos together.
I only run stock one piece pushrods. Never have to worry about them flexing, never gotta worry about them coming loose, never gotta worry about them hitting anything. I'll remove them via the top until I die.
You are a wealth of knowledge, and I have learned more about engine building from your videos than anywhere else. Thank you for putting this info out into the world.
I'm no tech but based on another video talking about valve springs, I bet that cam was causing the valve springs to bind and forcing the cams and tappets against each other.
Just tore my 99 twincam down today. Had a lifter stick. Replace lifters and put in adjustable push rods. Ran like crap and it was noisy. Pulled cylinders off and connecting rods are way too loose. That’s when I found your video on the teardown. Just wanted you to know I really enjoyed it and Thank you
I had three Shovel head bikes in my riding life. I would love to have another one just to play with. Damn good engines and pretty easy to keep running.
Get the last year model of a shovel that would be 1984 ...pay the money and buy a harley factory service manual ...there is just too many extra techincal specs in factory manuals that are detecated to just the model and year . with photos and arrows of critical to do's and red x's over pics of not to do's .....if this was a metric project i would tell you the same thing ...here lately ebay has sellers giving up their harley bibles with a few greasey finger prints on a few pages for half price ..so dont ever over look ebay ...why i recomend the last of the shovels if you got your heart set on a shovel .in 1984 the shovel heads already had all the advantages' updates and mods that comes on the evo ...like the oil system that has the upgraded oil pump. And jetted sizing from big to small 1/8th npt compression fittings to connect the external oil pump to the rear head 1st then your short cross over to the front head ...each one of those brass compression fittings have a different size feed hole through it ..these oil jet hole are calibrated to maintain a constant minuium oil supply to the valve guides .not too much and not too little but just enough to lube the top end at 7000 rpm if you wanna get stupid crazy and blow metric liter bikes away. ...check sputhe engineering for alumium jugs with steel sleaves that fit shovels. Titainum Behive valve springs wond for high lift cam so you will not have any coil binding or distortion ..fueling oil pump roller comp cam lifters. Adjustable pushrods roller tip rockers and for cheap a set of " rocker lockers" when you fire this behemoth off fir the 1st youll think you did sumting wong with the build as your rocker pin lockers wont make a tic klic or a klac only the simering spinning sounds of rollers rolling...overkill for 7000 rpm rice rocket walks of shame. Hehehehehahaha ..damnit im so evil...coworker ask me what the differents between S&S vs harley cranks and rods. He said that his brother worked at a small foundry in chicage that only made flywheels and rods ..they would ship half to harley and the other half to S&S ..wouldnt you know it ..what a rip ..and aint that just too goddamn bad , harley and s&$ is the same shit from the same boiling pot of metal ..have someone who knows how to shave 2 1/2 pounds off your flywheels .why so they will fly that why ..im determind to turn you into a totally addicted gearhead pig ..and this is why we cant have nice things
I sold both my twin cams not because I had a problem with mine but because I worked on like 10 of them for other guys for the same issue. I'll stick with my shovelhead and Evo
I'm not a bike guy (or even much of an auto mechanic for that matter) but I understood everything you explained and the "cause & effect" as to what went on with this engine. I have subscribed, and I intend watch more of these vids. Who knows, someday I might buy a bike, and all this knowledge will be very useful.
I appreciate the hell out of your videos. I always, always learn something watching the valuable content you produce. I wish I had 1/4 of your knowledge on engine building and machining procedures. Thanks again for the work you put in here. Y’all support Ol’ Kevin and buy your parts through his shop. Ol’ Cornbread does. I got to get me one of his cool retro tee shirts as well. I’m out. Peace out!!
I know u rite the bad thing is I could probably do some but it’s the patience and trying to make sure having the tools my God I’m surprised they don’t make a tool to put fuel in with it’s crazy all the tools you got have but yea wished to man
Truck freight is not particularly expensive so if you live in the continental US you could send him an engine or (weighs less) a stripped core to build. It's quite common to send engines out of state to get what you want. I do.
My 2015 CVO Deluxe has the dreaded lifter failure around 35,000 miles, replaced with S&S Lifters and oil pump, put factory 255 cam back in as S&S doesn't make that size. Good to go so far.
Thank you for your video. It truly is a sum of all parts, the total package working together, that makes it all run well. We should not address one part alone without considering the effects somewhere else.
Yeah, Kevin.I got fifty thousand on my two thousandand four eighty twin cam... Developed some knocking noise. Going down the road on the front cylinderi. Turned around and limped her home. Lost all compression on front cylinderhave not torn into it yet, but this video was pretty helpful. I'm hoping for a simple answer, but I'm not. Expecting one ha haif.You have any quick comment about what problem I may be looking at.I would appreciate it.Thanks and keep up the good videos
@kevinbaxter you have broken my mileage record. 15000 on my skunk works and still running. Most miles I have put on an HD motor without a catastrophic failure. Thanks.
Great stuff! I have a noisy 110 myself. 2016 CVO Limited with about 38k. No jar of marbles yet, although some ticking, fluttering and the occasional intermittent knock. Other that that she runs great!
I had a mechanic tell me on my evo that 50,000 miles is pushing your luck on the roller tappits . Said that if they mess up and freeze up lots of metal shavings and big mess that usually makes the build extremely difficult .
Hey Kevin,great Video,I talked to you earlier about my 110 and making it a 117,I,m almost scared to ride mine now after watching all the 110 tear downs.unfortunately life got in the way this year,hopefully this winter you can skunk mine.
I got a CVO Fat Boy I think it has 8k on it with a 110 . I bought it drove it home and parked it . I don't trust stock Harley lifters at all including the crank shaft to be honest ..My other two bikes money pits lol have SS engines which seem to be OK. To be honest the 110 I have seems to be a tame compared to the other two ..But it shiny lol. Enjoy the videos
I enjoyed watching you take apart the motor and analyze what you saw that caused the ultimate failure to occur. Too many shops don’t take into consideration the details that are required for an upgrade, the bottom line is all that matters to them. Anyway, I’m just blowing off steam because that similar problem happened to me with my Evo, years back. What’s your opinion on the overall build of a 2001 fuel injected Road King with 50k miles? Any problems with that year bike I should know about? Not sure what I should be aware of before buying it. Great job, brother. Jesse
BTW Crown Alloys make a great MIG wire for cast iron suited to machinery repair and of course jug mods. It uses argon shielding gas which you'll have anyway for TIG.
I wish I had a shop like yours around my neck of the woods. I heard about a new shop that just opened up and the guy is an ex Harley mechanic. The next time I pass the place, I'll stop in and talk to the guy if I can. He also builds custom chopper from what I hear. Maybe he'll be my guy to work on my trike. It's been sitting for about 2 years with me occasionally starting it. I just got some fresh gas for it but have to get it in the tank.
I switched brands exactly for this reason. It's amazing that us Harley Davidson owners actually put up with this stuff from a motorcycle company. We buy a $30000 motorcycle and then start throwing parts at it. I switch to a different brand not necessarily a better brand but at least a brand that we don't have those problems with the bikes. The idea that you buy a motorcycle and you immediately do performance work to the motor is ridiculous. It's a marketing plant it's not your motorcycle.
@@yoso585yea they all have their own problems though it’s just a lot more HD I’ve had various ones they all have their own issues and all parts are high period no matter what it’s is but it is crazy of how they all build them and yet no one is happy the way they are from a fender to fluids
I have seen this before when someone has done a cam swap & put adjustable rods in .The rods can never be adjusted exactly as we know rods are a set length if only a few throw out it can wreck lifters or valves.i always use screaming eagle non adjustable heavy duties rods .this use to happen a lot on evo,s with a cam swap when they cheat & cut the rods out rather than take rockers out .
You CAN adjust them right. The spring in the lifter has 200 thousands spring room. When you put them in you get it BDC and adjust it accordingly to the flats on the directions. Never had a failure..
Great tear down video highlighting all problematic areas. Out of interest, would you recommend a complete rebuild or purchase a crate motor for the owner of this 2016 CVO 110?-what would be the most economical?
Hi Kevin. I own and ride this model. In the forums and from other riders, I frequently hear about these engine failures. Generally, between 30-50k miles. I’m at 30k with no issues. What should I do preventative in your opinion, if anything?
@@amirosmanbasic3719 I have a consult tomorrow. At a minimum I plan to replace the lifters, add rocker lockers, cam bearings, new cams and a new cam plate. Thinking about a compression bump but concerned about added heat which could affect longevity of the bike. Want to learn more about both the 113 and 117 bolt on kits.
Enjoyable vid, ur down to earth, no messing around, or aggravating music and give a good explanation. Thanks fer ur video(plus ur working on Harleys, heh)
I love your vids. Neighbor has a 2013 CVO Breakout with a Stage 4 and 2000mi on it, blk diamond for sale. He wants $12000. Having second thoughts on the 110 now, no way. I could never own a Harley. My V Star 1300 Tourer and Raider make all kinds of noises and run great. I'd definitely muck something up on a hd. 😂
To articulate your knowledge in a way that it sinks in with someone who has the attention span of a hummingbird on adderall is a gift. Thx Amigo. I shall subscribe. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
love this vid, I built my 07 softy myself, 110 piston and barrels SE, 583 S&S cams, 89cc S&S heads, SE billet cam plate and up graded oil pump + SE adj push rods with S&S cam followers, I've ran this motor for the best part of 50,000 K's, just regular oil changes and still seems as strong as the day I first fired it, however I do have an issue with the Primary side rattling and clunking at tick over, I did change the compensator to the SE one and up graded the clutch as advised, got rid of the rattle at one point by replacing the clutch main bearing, Primary chain etc, also have tried all the different oils from ATF through to gear box oil, I've recently seen an up graded belview spring for the compensator and a manual chain tensioner, which apparently seems to work well, your thoughts would be appreciated, regards a Down under biker, NZ
Only one thing I wish you would add in the teardown videos ,the brand of oil the owners ran in their motors. That would satisfy my curiosity. Thanks for another great video
Bought an 08 HD ultra the end of last summer. 34,000 miles., runs and looks like new. Bike sat for 7 yrs. Just needed battery , tires, tank liner removed and tank cleaned, injectors cleaned, green mildew washed off. $ 500.00 It is way slower than my metric cruisers, but handles better. Slow, loud, classic, dependable so far, rides/ handles good. Why do guys throw money at these? Just get a Raider, or like I did, one of those , and an R1, if you want fast.
Stumbled across this video. I'm a gearhead and work on my own bikes. I follow a couple car channels as well. There is a pandemic of bad new parts lately especially lifters! Many car engine builders are reusing lifters if there good. When they go they take out the whole motor. Similar to what you have there. Just an FYI. Great video.
I believe the roller needle bearings in the lifters failed first. The rollers stopped turning causing the roller to drag across the cam surface. Both metal debris from the needle bearings and the cam lobe wear got into the rod bearings causing that bearing to fail.
I like to think I'm absorbing some of that information. I think I am. What I'm actually learning is the right way to "see" what my engine is telling me. Thanks again for all the fun content.
My 2013 110 screaming eagle did similar as this one . They found roller lifters in the same as those , crank bearings bad , wrist pins were tight . All at 34000 miles .
Now I'm worried about my recently purchased 2012 FHLTCUI7. The previous owner had it repaired at the HD shop(FL), had a sized exhaust lifter that took out the cams,oil pump, lifters, etc but no mention of harm to crank bearings. Maybe they caught it early as the bill was still 3k. Thank you, it was great seeing you tear that down for us to see... was wondering how you separate the crank to replace the rod bearings? Finding your channel invaluable!
50k is lifter time on an Evo, less angle in a TC, the auto primary chain tensioner binds up and wrecks shaft bearings on the left side of the engine and transmission.
From your comments I gather the cam swap without compatible valve springs created undue stress on the valve train which caused premature wear and stress on the tappets and then on the cam. That oil looked way too brown, possibly from running lean and hot? This is a sad event. My 2000 Harley has 88,000 miles and is as quiet as many bikes with only 30,000 miles. It is factory stock. I have been using Amsoil synthetic since the 10,000 mile oil change. First oil change at 1,000, second change at 5,000. After that every 5,000. An old timer told me, "The only Harleys I have come across broke down next to the highway were fitted with aftermarket parts by an amateur mechanic. Not one was worked on by Harley factory trained mechanics and Harley factory parts".
certainly running hot. cant say with certainty about valve spring seat pressure as i havent check yet..however, that divot on the back side of the lobe is a sign that the tappet bounces over center caused by a weak spring.
Man I just rebuilt a motor that the guy who rebuilt it before me used red loctite on every bolt. And not just a drop but a butt load. Six of the lower rocker bolts came out with the threads still on the bolts. I had to machine every thread in the head for the rocker plate and the rockers. Worst motor I've ever rebuilt.
Hello Kevin I have a dumb question about sumping. What causes this a d where is the oil supposed to go I'm confused about it Maby you can shed some light on the subject thank you great reviews love them all
First of all, love the channel. Very informative. I have a 2016 FLTRUSE with 18000 miles on it, and am noticing some very distinct ticking on startup and idling. I was wondering which brand of lifters do you recommend for a stock 110 rebuild. I've seen all kinds of recommendations on the forums, and would trust your advice. Thank you in advance.
I’m surprised you don’t use pig mat … you work so methodically and obviously a perfectionist… I had a 120 ci ultima in my road king I never believe that the bike ( engine) ran properly the backhanded mechanic I used I didn’t have confidence in his skill set and I sure would have loved to run across you while I had my bike … I had it for 5-6 years and it was in the shop more times than I can say or count… and it always leaked oil I don’t know if ultima is a good engine and I probably should have went with an SS instead but cost at time was high and availability was low … I’m curious if you ran across these those engines and your opinion of them… I thoroughly enjoy your vids and style keep it up!!!
pig mat creates waste that has to be disposed of. I do tear downs on a table with a drain in the bottom that collects the oil. we send that oil to a recycler.
Dude from a former Master ASE Jag technician, You are a magnificent V twin tech, best ever , you truly are a Master Harley Tech! awesome work and honesty cannot be found in the business these days.Keep up the great work!!
You have got to be one of the best v-twin gearheads in the country...No doubt !!!
Graciously sharing knowledge is the one of the greatest gifts that you can give to your fellow man. I salute you for taking the time and effort to put these videos together.
Agreed. 💯 %
I only run stock one piece pushrods. Never have to worry about them flexing, never gotta worry about them coming loose, never gotta worry about them hitting anything. I'll remove them via the top until I die.
When my engine needs a rebuild this is who I will have do it. Kevin is the real deal.
Absolutely stellar diagnostics from a guy who knows how engines work! Always a joy to watch!
You are a wealth of knowledge, and I have learned more about engine building from your videos than anywhere else. Thank you for putting this info out into the world.
Thank you very much!
You've got to hate it when Kevin is tearing down your motor and says "Hmm, interesting."
Yea just look the other way if your there r watching
Amen!
😂
I'd rather hear my surgeon say it while looking at my x-ray than my engine tech.
True!!!
This is a terrific video. It's hard to believe that 50K miles could do so much damage. Thanks for the work!
I had a noise from a failed bearing on my Ducati 900 POS !!! oh it failed at 197.000 miles 😊😊😊😊😊
Bad maintenance and hard riding go a long way
At the beginning of the video he mentions about wrong things that were built in the engine.
I'm no tech but based on another video talking about valve springs, I bet that cam was causing the valve springs to bind and forcing the cams and tappets against each other.
China supplied components?
Just tore my 99 twincam down today. Had a lifter stick. Replace lifters and put in adjustable push rods. Ran like crap and it was noisy. Pulled cylinders off and connecting rods are way too loose. That’s when I found your video on the teardown. Just wanted you to know I really enjoyed it and Thank you
Thank you Craig. Best of luck sir!
Fascinating to watch, you are great at describing what we are seeing. From a non mechanic who would never do what you’re doing it’s very impressive!
I'm learning a lot working on my 71 Triumph T120R bobber. This motor is so simple.
Was a machinist for a couple years and found this teardown interesting. Wish I learned this years ago.
I had three Shovel head bikes in my riding life. I would love to have another one just to play with. Damn good engines and pretty easy to keep running.
Get the last year model of a shovel that would be 1984 ...pay the money and buy a harley factory service manual ...there is just too many extra techincal specs in factory manuals that are detecated to just the model and year . with photos and arrows of critical to do's and red x's over pics of not to do's .....if this was a metric project i would tell you the same thing ...here lately ebay has sellers giving up their harley bibles with a few greasey finger prints on a few pages for half price ..so dont ever over look ebay ...why i recomend the last of the shovels if you got your heart set on a shovel .in 1984 the shovel heads already had all the advantages' updates and mods that comes on the evo ...like the oil system that has the upgraded oil pump. And jetted sizing from big to small 1/8th npt compression fittings to connect the external oil pump to the rear head 1st then your short cross over to the front head ...each one of those brass compression fittings have a different size feed hole through it
..these oil jet hole are calibrated to maintain a constant minuium oil supply to the valve guides .not too much and not too little but just enough to lube the top end at 7000 rpm if you wanna get stupid crazy and blow metric liter bikes away. ...check sputhe engineering for alumium jugs with steel sleaves that fit shovels. Titainum Behive valve springs wond for high lift cam so you will not have any coil binding or distortion ..fueling oil pump roller comp cam lifters. Adjustable pushrods roller tip rockers and for cheap a set of " rocker lockers" when you fire this behemoth off fir the 1st youll think you did sumting wong with the build as your rocker pin lockers wont make a tic klic or a klac only the simering spinning sounds of rollers rolling...overkill for 7000 rpm rice rocket walks of shame. Hehehehehahaha ..damnit im so evil...coworker ask me what the differents between S&S vs harley cranks and rods. He said that his brother worked at a small foundry in chicage that only made flywheels and rods ..they would ship half to harley and the other half to S&S ..wouldnt you know it ..what a rip ..and aint that just too goddamn bad , harley and s&$ is the same shit from the same boiling pot of metal ..have someone who knows how to shave 2 1/2 pounds off your flywheels .why so they will fly that why ..im determind to turn you into a totally addicted gearhead pig ..and this is why we cant have nice things
I had a 76 superglid 3:14 e and I loved that bike. Shovelhead ran sweet and never gave me a problem.
poorly made, oil leaking pieces of crap
Gee I love listening to a guy who knows his stuff.
From one Kevin to another, this was a very interesting tear down to watch. Thanks for walking us through it.
I have a 2020 m8 107 stage 2 softail with 40,000 miles I purchased brand new in 2020. No problems so far.
Known many get over 100,000 miles on stock motors with no issues.
I sold both my twin cams not because I had a problem with mine but because I worked on like 10 of them for other guys for the same issue. I'll stick with my shovelhead and Evo
I'm not a bike guy (or even much of an auto mechanic for that matter) but I understood everything you explained and the "cause & effect" as to what went on with this engine.
I have subscribed, and I intend watch more of these vids. Who knows, someday I might buy a bike, and all this knowledge will be very useful.
Thank you Kevin if only they could get it right the first time ..👍🏻🇦🇺
Great video !!!
I’m an engine builder, but never a Harley v twin.
Super informative video.
Thank you for the lesson.
I appreciate the hell out of your videos. I always, always learn something watching the valuable content you produce. I wish I had 1/4 of your knowledge on engine building and machining procedures.
Thanks again for the work you put in here. Y’all support Ol’ Kevin and buy your parts through his shop. Ol’ Cornbread does. I got to get me one of his cool retro tee shirts as well. I’m out. Peace out!!
Thank you sir.
I know u rite the bad thing is I could probably do some but it’s the patience and trying to make sure having the tools my God I’m surprised they don’t make a tool to put fuel in with it’s crazy all the tools you got have but yea wished to man
Wow! the teardown and analysis of this engine condition amazes me.
I wish I lived closer to KB so I could have his shop do my engine work.
You and me both
Truck freight is not particularly expensive so if you live in the continental US you could send him an engine or (weighs less) a stripped core to build. It's quite common to send engines out of state to get what you want. I do.
My 2015 CVO Deluxe has the dreaded lifter failure around 35,000 miles, replaced with S&S Lifters and oil pump, put factory 255 cam back in as S&S doesn't make that size. Good to go so far.
I've been a motorsports guy my whole life. You have to be a good detective to do a forensic teardown. Nice job. From a 50 year wrench.
thank you Kevin ,,l like the way you go into detail and tell why this happened and causes and effect
Thank you for your video. It truly is a sum of all parts, the total package working together, that makes it all run well. We should not address one part alone without considering the effects somewhere else.
Yeah, Kevin.I got fifty thousand on my two thousandand four eighty twin cam... Developed some knocking noise. Going down the road on the front cylinderi. Turned around and limped her home. Lost all compression on front cylinderhave not torn into it yet, but this video was pretty helpful. I'm hoping for a simple answer, but I'm not. Expecting one ha haif.You have any quick comment about what problem I may be looking at.I would appreciate it.Thanks and keep up the good videos
@kevinbaxter you have broken my mileage record. 15000 on my skunk works and still running. Most miles I have put on an HD motor without a catastrophic failure. Thanks.
Thrilled to hear it. Glad youre enjoying it and all is well.
@@KevinBaxter all is good 👍
Great job showing and telling, great job on the finding the bad parts. and have a great day see ya on the next video see ya bye.
Thanks!
Thank you so much John. I appreciate it.
Thanks Kevin. I watched this as soon as I got home from work. Perfect timing.
That’s a sweet looking shovel. Good luck with it.
I learned it you want too purchase a Harley you can have 100% confidence in it not failing, buy a Sportster.
Great stuff! I have a noisy 110 myself. 2016 CVO Limited with about 38k. No jar of marbles yet, although some ticking, fluttering and the occasional intermittent knock. Other that that she runs great!
Put lifters in it before they frag.
I had a mechanic tell me on my evo that 50,000 miles is pushing your luck on the roller tappits .
Said that if they mess up and freeze up lots of metal shavings and big mess that usually makes the build extremely difficult .
This is another excellent video. That's an awful lot of damage for 50,000 miles: Lower end, cams, lifters, etc.
Thanks for all you share Kevin, the depth of your explanations for cause and repair are greatly appreciated!!!
Got a 04 Yamaha roadstar no problem's the same engine Harley copied for it's Milwaukee 8,only harly still has problems
Very knowledgeable builder, great video
You do very good job explaining what went wrong and what happened.....Thanks for taking the time to explain things in layman's terms...
Hey Kevin,great Video,I talked to you earlier about my 110 and making it a 117,I,m almost scared to ride mine now after watching all the 110 tear downs.unfortunately life got in the way this year,hopefully this winter you can skunk mine.
Make a space after punctuation
Awesome tear down and diagnosis. Whoever worked on it mustve had stock in thread sealer and big gaskets.
I got a CVO Fat Boy I think it has 8k on it with a 110 . I bought it drove it home and parked it . I don't trust stock Harley lifters at all including the crank shaft to be honest ..My other two bikes money pits lol have SS engines which seem to be OK. To be honest the 110 I have seems to be a tame compared to the other two ..But it shiny lol. Enjoy the videos
Great video, the description as u go along disassembling everything is cool.
I enjoyed watching you take apart the motor and analyze what you saw that caused the ultimate failure to occur. Too many shops don’t take into consideration the details that are required for an upgrade, the bottom line is all that matters to them. Anyway, I’m just blowing off steam because that similar problem happened to me with my Evo, years back.
What’s your opinion on the overall build of a 2001 fuel injected Road King with 50k miles? Any problems with that year bike I should know about? Not sure what I should be aware of before buying it. Great job, brother. Jesse
BTW Crown Alloys make a great MIG wire for cast iron suited to machinery repair and of course jug mods. It uses argon shielding gas which you'll have anyway for TIG.
Finally a liquid cooled head ... and some beneficial head gasket information... great informative videos !!! Thank u ..
Glad you liked it!
There's golden nuggets in every video, just have to know when you find it. Don't happen to need any help Kevin?
Shovels are my favorite engines . Love the look of the rocker boxes.
Still rocking my dad's 81 shovel 🤘
GREAT VIDEO AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE SHOVELHEAD VIDEO UPDATE
Congrats on the Shovel,,,Good luck on the rest...
I wish I had a shop like yours around my neck of the woods. I heard about a new shop that just opened up and the guy is an ex Harley mechanic. The next time I pass the place, I'll stop in and talk to the guy if I can. He also builds custom chopper from what I hear. Maybe he'll be my guy to work on my trike. It's been sitting for about 2 years with me occasionally starting it. I just got some fresh gas for it but have to get it in the tank.
Shout out to Kevin...
Thank you Sir, i have learned so much from you.
I switched brands exactly for this reason. It's amazing that us Harley Davidson owners actually put up with this stuff from a motorcycle company. We buy a $30000 motorcycle and then start throwing parts at it. I switch to a different brand not necessarily a better brand but at least a brand that we don't have those problems with the bikes. The idea that you buy a motorcycle and you immediately do performance work to the motor is ridiculous. It's a marketing plant it's not your motorcycle.
Most don’t buy Harley’s for transportation.
@@yoso585yea they all have their own problems though it’s just a lot more HD I’ve had various ones they all have their own issues and all parts are high period no matter what it’s is but it is crazy of how they all build them and yet no one is happy the way they are from a fender to fluids
Honda makes a good motorcycle.
I have seen this before when someone has done a cam swap & put adjustable rods in .The rods can never be adjusted exactly as we know rods are a set length if only a few throw out it can wreck lifters or valves.i always use screaming eagle non adjustable heavy duties rods .this use to happen a lot on evo,s with a cam swap when they cheat & cut the rods out rather than take rockers out .
You CAN adjust them right. The spring in the lifter has 200 thousands spring room. When you put them in you get it BDC and adjust it accordingly to the flats on the directions. Never had a failure..
Great tear down video highlighting all problematic areas. Out of interest, would you recommend a complete rebuild or purchase a crate motor for the owner of this 2016 CVO 110?-what would be the most economical?
every customer is different. depends on their budget, end use, etc.
Hi Kevin. I own and ride this model. In the forums and from other riders, I frequently hear about these engine failures. Generally, between 30-50k miles. I’m at 30k with no issues. What should I do preventative in your opinion, if anything?
Schachat01, what did you decide to do ?
@@amirosmanbasic3719 I have a consult tomorrow. At a minimum I plan to replace the lifters, add rocker lockers, cam bearings, new cams and a new cam plate. Thinking about a compression bump but concerned about added heat which could affect longevity of the bike. Want to learn more about both the 113 and 117 bolt on kits.
Enjoyable vid, ur down to earth, no messing around, or aggravating music and give a good explanation. Thanks fer ur video(plus ur working on Harleys, heh)
I love your vids. Neighbor has a 2013 CVO Breakout with a Stage 4 and 2000mi on it, blk diamond for sale. He wants $12000.
Having second thoughts on the 110 now, no way.
I could never own a Harley.
My V Star 1300 Tourer and Raider make all kinds of noises and run great. I'd definitely muck something up on a hd. 😂
Kevin, thanks for the video. Glad to see you're able to squeeze one in ocassionally.
I enjoyed this breakdown immensely.
Great video by far the best on UA-cam for this kind of information 🙏🙏
Glad you think so! Thank you.
To articulate your knowledge in a way that it sinks in with someone who has the attention span of a hummingbird on adderall is a gift. Thx Amigo. I shall subscribe.
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Again, another amazing video! I have learned so much watching your videos Mr. Baxter. Kudos to you!
love this vid, I built my 07 softy myself, 110 piston and barrels SE, 583 S&S cams, 89cc S&S heads, SE billet cam plate and up graded oil pump + SE adj push rods with S&S cam followers, I've ran this motor for the best part of 50,000 K's, just regular oil changes and still seems as strong as the day I first fired it, however I do have an issue with the Primary side rattling and clunking at tick over, I did change the compensator to the SE one and up graded the clutch as advised, got rid of the rattle at one point by replacing the clutch main bearing, Primary chain etc, also have tried all the different oils from ATF through to gear box oil, I've recently seen an up graded belview spring for the compensator and a manual chain tensioner, which apparently seems to work well, your thoughts would be appreciated, regards a Down under biker, NZ
Thank you sir, for taking the time to share your talent and gift.
Wow - I just keep learning as I watch your videos, thank you sir!
Only one thing I wish you would add in the teardown videos ,the brand of oil the owners ran in their motors. That would satisfy my curiosity. Thanks for another great video
Bought an 08 HD ultra the end of last summer. 34,000 miles., runs and looks like new. Bike sat for 7 yrs. Just needed battery , tires, tank liner removed and tank cleaned, injectors cleaned, green mildew washed off. $ 500.00 It is way slower than my metric cruisers, but handles better. Slow, loud, classic, dependable so far, rides/ handles good. Why do guys throw money at these? Just get a Raider, or like I did, one of those , and an R1, if you want fast.
Stumbled across this video. I'm a gearhead and work on my own bikes. I follow a couple car channels as well. There is a pandemic of bad new parts lately especially lifters! Many car engine builders are reusing lifters if there good. When they go they take out the whole motor. Similar to what you have there. Just an FYI. Great video.
I believe the roller needle bearings in the lifters failed first. The rollers stopped turning causing the roller to drag across the cam surface. Both metal debris from the needle bearings and the cam lobe wear got into the rod bearings causing that bearing to fail.
I like to think I'm absorbing some of that information. I think I am. What I'm actually learning is the right way to "see" what my engine is telling me. Thanks again for all the fun content.
My 2013 110 screaming eagle did similar as this one . They found roller lifters in the same as those , crank bearings bad , wrist pins were tight . All at 34000 miles .
Around 30000 miles the lifters give out because of the heavy spring tension in the 110 heads.
Cool to stumble across your channel. Was raised in Winder, Ga. Small world!
Now I'm worried about my recently purchased 2012 FHLTCUI7. The previous owner had it repaired at the HD shop(FL), had a sized exhaust lifter that took out the cams,oil pump, lifters, etc but no mention of harm to crank bearings. Maybe they caught it early as the bill was still 3k.
Thank you, it was great seeing you tear that down for us to see... was wondering how you separate the crank to replace the rod bearings?
Finding your channel invaluable!
Replacing lifters is easy. Do it before it messes up. Usually around 25000 miles. If you wait until it drops then have to buy cams too.
Impressive, I sissored, and bent my crank, and broke the pinion bearing last year, still didn't do that kind of damage
By the way, I chopped a 74 AMF Super Glide in 1983. I recently bought a new 2023 Breakout.
Twin cams usually aways go bad by 50k. Change out the tensioners with S&S parts and dont look back.
Awesome. Thanks man. I do my own wrenching and very much appreciate your content.
I appreciate that!
Thanks for your videos I did my first twin cam build and your videos were very important. Cheers!
Awesome Kevin you are a wealth of knowledge. I enjoyed watching. Thank you.
I appreciated are you and the perfectionist in you that gets it right and puts out a quality product
He’s like the Bill Nye the Science Guy of HD Motors. He should have his own TV show! also learn something every time.
Kevin's the best HD mechanic on the planet IMO
Thank you for great videos! Watching these I am starting to doubt should I just sell the Harley before all this happens. Quality looks really poor.
I just put that same oil filter on my 103.. not sure if it was worth the cost yet but you didn't say anything negative about that lol
Excellent detective work. The builder just slapped that engine together without enough knowledge.👋👍
50k is lifter time on an Evo, less angle in a TC, the auto primary chain tensioner binds up and wrecks shaft bearings on the left side of the engine and transmission.
Thanks for the great video ! Always a learning experience !
This is the best stuff on the internet.
From your comments I gather the cam swap without compatible valve springs created undue stress on the valve train which caused premature wear and stress on the tappets and then on the cam.
That oil looked way too brown, possibly from running lean and hot?
This is a sad event. My 2000 Harley has 88,000 miles and is as quiet as many bikes with only 30,000 miles. It is factory stock. I have been using Amsoil synthetic since the 10,000 mile oil change. First oil change at 1,000, second change at 5,000. After that every 5,000.
An old timer told me, "The only Harleys I have come across broke down next to the highway were fitted with aftermarket parts by an amateur mechanic. Not one was worked on by Harley factory trained mechanics and Harley factory parts".
certainly running hot. cant say with certainty about valve spring seat pressure as i havent check yet..however, that divot on the back side of the lobe is a sign that the tappet bounces over center caused by a weak spring.
Man I just rebuilt a motor that the guy who rebuilt it before me used red loctite on every bolt. And not just a drop but a butt load. Six of the lower rocker bolts came out with the threads still on the bolts. I had to machine every thread in the head for the rocker plate and the rockers. Worst motor I've ever rebuilt.
that sucks!
Hello Kevin I have a dumb question about sumping. What causes this a d where is the oil supposed to go I'm confused about it Maby you can shed some light on the subject thank you great reviews love them all
Thank you Kevin I have learned a lot from you about twin cams. Enjoyed your video.
Thanks Kevin, love the twin cam videos
I like stuff like Graveyard Cars, Gas Monkey Garage. Your shop is the first for that format, I'll be looking forward to more.
Kevin, was good to formally meet you at our Big Pines run, look forward to kickin it with you in Sturgis brother…. Brian.
Was certainly a pleasure my friend. I look forward to seeing you there. Safe travels!
First of all, love the channel. Very informative. I have a 2016 FLTRUSE with 18000 miles on it, and am noticing some very distinct ticking on startup and idling. I was wondering which brand of lifters do you recommend for a stock 110 rebuild. I've seen all kinds of recommendations on the forums, and would trust your advice. Thank you in advance.
I’m surprised you don’t use pig mat … you work so methodically and obviously a perfectionist… I had a 120 ci ultima in my road king I never believe that the bike ( engine) ran properly the backhanded mechanic I used I didn’t have confidence in his skill set and I sure would have loved to run across you while I had my bike … I had it for 5-6 years and it was in the shop more times than I can say or count… and it always leaked oil I don’t know if ultima is a good engine and I probably should have went with an SS instead but cost at time was high and availability was low … I’m curious if you ran across these those engines and your opinion of them… I thoroughly enjoy your vids and style keep it up!!!
pig mat creates waste that has to be disposed of. I do tear downs on a table with a drain in the bottom that collects the oil. we send that oil to a recycler.
If i had to rebuild my moter , i would figure out how to get him the job !!! He is the best ....
As always another awesome teardown video perfect example of what can happen when you don't have the knowledge to do the work properly
Thanks 👍
lots of those guys out there