Don't Give Up on the Harley 103

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  • The dealers want you to think the Twin Cam 103 is a relic of the past now with the new Milwaukee 8 but it's really not that far off. Sure the Milwaukee 8 has more displacement but the Twin Cam 103 really isn't that far off in terms of horsepower and torque. With a good aftermarket cam and exhaust the Twin Cam 103 can put down number up there with the Milwaukee 8 114. Even the Twin Cam 103HO is pretty stout and the numbers are very comparable to the Milwaukee 8 107. Between the two engines it really comes down to the feel and personal preference but the Twin Cam 103 just has character the Milwaukee 8 can't match.
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  • @rododuran9350
    @rododuran9350 Рік тому +5

    I just bought a 2017 Dyna Street Bob with 815 miles completely stock
    Thank you for all the knowledge you share

  • @richardsmith5738
    @richardsmith5738 2 роки тому +95

    Yep, you just helped me reconfirm what I've been thinking about. I'm going to hold on to my 103 HO for a bit longer. Those M8 models are nice, but I personally can't justify paying these crazy prices and then have to start all over again with buying aftermarket parts.

    • @jimfischione2743
      @jimfischione2743 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, that's a good idea. I love my M8, but I miss my 103 HO. Could have saved a bunch of money if I would have hung on to it.

    • @bullast2046
      @bullast2046 2 роки тому +5

      Any idea how to identify the 103 vs 103HO? I have a ‘14 dyna with a 103 but no idea how to tell

    • @robbyclark6915
      @robbyclark6915 2 роки тому +2

      @@bullast2046 Pretty sure the HO actually says it on the engine. Not positive, but if you had the HO I’m pretty sure you would know it just from looking at the engine.
      I also don’t think they did the HO until 2016? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @bullast2046
      @bullast2046 2 роки тому +1

      @@robbyclark6915 oh.. well, if it started in ‘16, I do not.. thanks

    • @williamjohnson6517
      @williamjohnson6517 2 роки тому +2

      @@robbyclark6915 my 2014 Street glide 103 Firefighter Shrine project Rushmore) had a plate on the air cleaner which said 103 high output.I changed the plate ( still have it ) but I'm a slave to accessories 😂. I still have the bike bought new now with 41,000 on it but I do ride other bikes . A 2005 Deuce with 25,000 and a Honda CTX 700 with.26,000.

  • @ARCTROOPER1174
    @ARCTROOPER1174 2 роки тому +4

    test road the M8 was very smooth ride was it had a bit more go. But went back to the Twin Cam , it feels and shakes how a Harley should.

  • @dmiles043
    @dmiles043 2 роки тому +20

    I can’t agree more. I’m on a 12 SG. Woods 222, S&S cam plate + oil pump, 2-1 D&D, PV tuner. Runs better than most Milwaukee 8s I run with. I’ve ridden several 114s. The feel of the ride point you made is spot on and why i won’t switch up.

  • @kanonymous6414
    @kanonymous6414 7 місяців тому +4

    I would absolutely prefer a twin cam 103 over a Milwaukee 8 any day. I like the sound of the twin cams, and the rubber mounting systems. Thank you for your videos.

  • @CactusJack252
    @CactusJack252 2 роки тому +2

    A few years ago I had a chance to get a 2016 road glide for a deal. I passed up on it because I wanted a M8. After reading about the oil pump issues and stuff the M8 was having I was kicking myself for passing on that 2016 road glide.

  • @ElectraWillem
    @ElectraWillem 2 роки тому +21

    My Twin-Cam 96 from 2010 is just fine. No need to change anything. Who cares about power or torque. It's all about the ride. 😁

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +3

      They do really well with stock internals, the 96 makes some solid torque!

    • @markallen6818
      @markallen6818 2 роки тому +5

      It's All About The Ride.Amen To That.I and probably a million other fellow Bikers couldn't Agree with You More.It's Not how fast you go,it's enjoyed the journey and getting you and your Bike there in one piece.The biggest money will always get you the big numbers(hp + torque)but you only need that on the Racetrack.I say Ride safe and Enjoy the Ride it's dangerous enough as it is out there.

    • @Nobody-xh5qe
      @Nobody-xh5qe Рік тому +2

      🙋‍♂️ me

    • @stephenwilliams1824
      @stephenwilliams1824 Рік тому +2

      I enjoyed my 2010 96” Ultra Classic owned from new. A bit gutless at highway overtaking but, most of my miles is on country roads and lanes. Come November 2022 I was knocked of it and it is now toasted.
      I prefer good mileage per gallon than performance off the mark.
      So now looking at the last of the 103” Limited or the first of the 107” M8.
      High torque to me means more tyre wear and those treads ain’t cheap.
      So watching many of these comparison videos.

  • @kittycorner8526
    @kittycorner8526 Рік тому +3

    My last bike was a 2010 FLHTCU with a TC96, Rinehart true duals, K&N intake, and Woods 555 cams. It was surprisingly fast for what it was.

  • @jamesball2128
    @jamesball2128 2 роки тому +22

    Gixxer, even though the M8's show impressive HP numbers with just the addition of a cam, I still don't like the sound! For me, there is nothing that can compare to a well tuned, carbureted twin cam with the right pair of cams in it...as always, great video and thank you!!!👍

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +5

      Totally agree, nothing sounds like a carbed Harley! The M8 really does a different sound, even with a big cam they have some thump but still sound different.

    • @jimfischione2743
      @jimfischione2743 2 роки тому +5

      I agree. I had a 01 RK with the CV carb, and the hi flow air cleaner, pipes and SE ignition module. The carb had been tweaked as well. Bike ran and sounded fantastic, so much so that a friend of mine bought it. Not usually a good move. But he loves it and he's still putting on the miles. Wish I would never had sold it!

    • @lancewingfield2259
      @lancewingfield2259 2 роки тому +5

      I agree, I just traded my 2003 carbureted Fatboy with a 2 into 1 Rinehart for a 2018 Heritage 114. I still need to get pipes for the Heritage, but I know it's not going to sound as good.

    • @lanceandmelanierogers6255
      @lanceandmelanierogers6255 2 роки тому +5

      I still enjoy the sound of my TC carbureted scooter… running 510 cams

    • @motomenace5243
      @motomenace5243 2 роки тому +6

      Shovelhead sounds best imo

  • @garrycolmansr2310
    @garrycolmansr2310 2 роки тому +2

    I have a 2012 heritage softtail 103 I love it no problem at all

  • @juliancrooks3031
    @juliancrooks3031 Рік тому +5

    Had both, the 103 was a great engine. Milwaukee 8 was a problem child

  • @guntherkohler3076
    @guntherkohler3076 Рік тому +1

    I nearly bought a RK M8. Ended up with a Rushmore 103 RK. For a measley grand or two more you can buy the new 107 or 114 and a year younger.
    Still went with the twin cam.

  • @falconator3419
    @falconator3419 Рік тому +5

    I’ve driven the M8 Harley and it honestly feel like a Japanese bike. The rumble, sound and overall feel of the twin cam hands down beats the overall feel of the ride. Especially when you upgrade the engine.

  • @williamjohnson6517
    @williamjohnson6517 2 роки тому +2

    My 14 Street glide is 103 HO . My buddy bought what looks like the same bike Black but with the 107 M8.. And you are absolutely correct. His is super smooth And mine has the shake but mine sounds a hell of a lot better and.he has the same slip on s as me . There really isn't a great difference in power in my opinion. I rented a 107 going down to the Hoover Dam and the bike had a little bit more get up and go but nothing to write home about . Now you start getting into a 114 and that as they say is a different story..But as you also say.i didn't buy a HD tourer to race with!🤣👍😎🇺🇸

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      Twin Cam has a much better thump than the M8, real world they really are pretty close in power in my opinion. Just a whole different feel between the two engine!

  • @tex9280
    @tex9280 2 роки тому +2

    💪103💪 I'll rebuild mine when the time comes, than wasting money with a M8 & their Blowby issues

  • @BillyBlaze7
    @BillyBlaze7 2 роки тому +2

    I had a 2012 softail slim, LOVED that bike and that motor

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      I for sure like the softail slim in the twin cam version way more than the new M8, same thing with the Break Out.

  • @timmcpeck2764
    @timmcpeck2764 2 роки тому +7

    I've had both, but I do prefer the M8. The 103 is a great engine but you're right about the cam with the M8. A good aftermarket one will wake that motor right up. I did the stage 4 (114) on my 2018 and went with an aftermarket cam after my warranty was up and it was a huge difference. I went with a different tuner with a dyno and was impressed with the numbers. I just subscribed to your channel and really enjoy the content.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for the support! The M8's are really easy to make power on, it really doesn't take a whole to get one of those up in the 130 foot pound of torque range. It's really kinda scary how easy it is with that 4 valve head and monster displacement.

  • @jayonez137
    @jayonez137 2 роки тому +1

    Love my 14 street glide 103 HO. Would never sell it. I have way too much $$ into it.
    However I am debating buying the new Street Glide ST 117

  • @rickanna8662
    @rickanna8662 2 роки тому +1

    Yep, twin cam is the jam 🤘

  • @jimanness4586
    @jimanness4586 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video thanks… I’m a 2016 103 HO and I’m happy with it… and I’m still looking for a good tune for it…

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      It's really hard to find a dyno in some places, even harder to find someone that can tune really well. I've had pretty good luck with FuelMoto, I bought a PowerVision from them and sent my bike's setup when I ordered it. The canned map they send based on specs was pretty good, ran some auto tune sessions and it really seemed to dial in well. Of course a good tuner on a dyno could really dial it in but I'd be making a road trip to get that done.

  • @jesusamador4661
    @jesusamador4661 Рік тому

    I have a 103 stock and it does Just fine. It’s a nice cruiser, if I want to go fast that’s what my FireBlade Honda is for.

  • @randyjones4794
    @randyjones4794 2 роки тому

    Just got my s&s 124 LC in 2016 SG and now lots of power all over very happy #s dyno 124 hp 134 tq

  • @samslade739
    @samslade739 Рік тому

    I am tearing down my '04 88" to rebuild and putting together a parts list that is getting pretty expensive. I've seen your videos on engine swaps and yes I could get a much better engine for less money but I really don't want to deal with the paperwork. I have however found some boneyard 103s with low mileage for less than $2K. My question is, Can I just stick the 103 internals in my cases, add a fresh top end, a cam and tune and be good to go? Thanks for your great videos. I've been riding Harleys since the 60s and learn something new every time I watch you.

  • @DanielDraper-ki4hr
    @DanielDraper-ki4hr 10 місяців тому

    I had a TC88 and TC96, never rode a TC103 but I heard a lot about how much heat they put off!

  • @harleydave2316
    @harleydave2316 2 роки тому +2

    I agree with a lot of what you said and I prefer the twincam as well. I just built my 2015 Breakout to a 110 kit from Fuel Moto and had it Dyno'd this week. It made 116 HP and 120 TQ with a Woods 777 cam and HPI throttle body.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +1

      Oh crap, damn those are good numbers! I love the Twin Cam Breakout, that new M8 version just doesn't do it for me.

    • @harleydave2316
      @harleydave2316 2 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo Thank you. I tried to reply with my Dyno print but UA-cam won't let me.

    • @leohageman6583
      @leohageman6583 Рік тому +1

      I had my 16 rgs 103 with heads woods 999 cams and I came with 110 hp and 117 tq

    • @harleydave2316
      @harleydave2316 Рік тому +1

      @@leohageman6583 Thats really good numbers from a 103. Mine could be higher if I didn't have a 2-2 short exhaust but I like them and happy how the bike runs. 🤓

  • @racerfan-eg6bj
    @racerfan-eg6bj 2 роки тому

    I have a 2012 street glide with non ho 103. 2 to 1 exhaust. Hyper charger and tune. I might not be as fast as the new street glide. But damn I feel like my bike sounds so much better . I love it

  • @xlr8r3VA
    @xlr8r3VA 2 роки тому +2

    I'd prefer a '90s Evolution with a Revolution 100" big bore kit and a Fueling Reaper cam. Long live the Evolution!

    • @leonardstanford1877
      @leonardstanford1877 2 роки тому +2

      Right on Evo Rules !

    • @leonardstanford1877
      @leonardstanford1877 2 роки тому +2

      I too have a 100 inch Evo & I love smokin a 103 or M8 107 or a 114 ! LOL !

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +1

      Those Evo's will frickin haul the mail when you get a big bore kit and a cam in them! You can make a high power Evo reliable these days, and they are inexpensive to do that with compared to a Twin Cam or M8.

  • @airsofter9266
    @airsofter9266 2 роки тому +2

    I've got a 17 cvo breakout with the 110 twin cam and for whatever reason my bike seems to kick my old man's 15 cvo limited with the same 110. I'd love to hear your opinion and info for the 110 twin cam

  • @morriscovington732
    @morriscovington732 2 роки тому +3

    Love the content...question should I put a bigger cam in my 110 twin cam to get big power to match the Milwaukee 114 and 117...

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      A cam in a 110 really goes along way, here's a video highlighting some cams and what they can do with a 110 ua-cam.com/video/wblZ9n1isxQ/v-deo.html

  • @MeatyGoulash
    @MeatyGoulash 2 роки тому +1

    I’m doing an S&S 110 with high comp pistons and other supporting mods with a Bassani road rage 3 on a road king . I’ll post before and after numbers to this comment if I remember

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +1

      A 110 with high compression is a serious screamer, let us know what you get!

    • @MeatyGoulash
      @MeatyGoulash 2 роки тому

      Will do. It’s going into the shop Tuesday with a 3 day turnaround. I’m excited. The current engine has scoring on the rear cylinder. Not sure what caused it but I’m sure it had something to do with heat and poor oil

  • @rickywhitehands
    @rickywhitehands 2 роки тому +2

    twin cam 103....casting issues with the m'8

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому

      Harley has always had some kind of casting issue with their parts it seems like.

  • @cgscprspecialist3937
    @cgscprspecialist3937 2 роки тому

    What is your opinion on the trike with the 103 great video

  • @KevinSmith-te8ez
    @KevinSmith-te8ez 2 роки тому +2

    103 All Day !!!!!!!!!!!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      I still have to say the 103 is my favorite twin cam motor!

  • @mikefusco5647
    @mikefusco5647 2 роки тому

    I have a 2017 Street Bob with a Stage II and I am running a low-end. My dyno sheet from Harley is 91hp & 104tq. Would that keep up with a new Stagge 1 Street Bob with the 107/114?

  • @tenpoundpom9363
    @tenpoundpom9363 2 роки тому

    I have a question about my twin cam 103 with a stage 3 kit (2012 Model) I recently went on a road trip and did around 4000 miles in 10 days.I live in Australia so the days were hot (90 F) and was doing around 70-80 mph alot of the time. I went thru about 3 pints of oil (1.5 litres) i use fully synthetic SYN 3. My Harley dealer tells me this is normal. Is he right. The bike has no oil leaks and doesn't blow any smoke it has 35000 miles on it and has been regularly serviced. Love the chanel by the way.👍

  • @donphillips5471
    @donphillips5471 Рік тому

    What year did was the 103 HO did Harley have the HO in bagger’s?

  • @richardanderson4916
    @richardanderson4916 Рік тому

    Did the 103 still have the cam chain tensioner issues?

  • @holeshotv311
    @holeshotv311 2 роки тому +2

    103

  • @nopass424
    @nopass424 2 роки тому +2

    Twin Cam 103 HO

  • @brucesantacory1390
    @brucesantacory1390 2 роки тому

    How do i find out if i have the 103 HO i have a 2014 1/2 Dyna Lowrider

  • @RGHD912
    @RGHD912 2 роки тому +1

    Put a 107” with upgraded parts, or wait for the twin 8

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      107" is a really good number for a twin cam, they make serious power and you don't get all the heat that comes with the monster displacements.

  • @getoffmygrass6974
    @getoffmygrass6974 2 роки тому

    Wud up Foo! Not a fan of the rear cylinder shutdown on 103’s or the limp mode, but overall a great engine, I still think the 01-02’s are the best in the TC line up, once you go to a hydraulic cam plate. My 2002 95” built Night Train pulls away from my buddies 2020 107 stage 1 low rider up to 100 mph with ease and my other bud has a 2021 114 low rider just slip ons, I can get a nose on him above 3g’s until 5th then he pulls away. End of the day, I would never trade my 02 Twin Cam for any of the M8’s, I also have about 10g’s into my 🚂. Not that the work can’t be done but try finding an 01-02 left case. I’ve thought about the 124 or 117 but at that point, you’re just so much faster than everyone else, nobody wants to even play. Plus, I love seeing peoples face when they find out it’s only a 95”, the S&S Super Stock heads I think confuses people to think it’s the whole engine, nope, just 79cc heads.

  • @dscott501
    @dscott501 2 роки тому +16

    I ride a shovelhead, so even a bone-stock twin cam feels like a rocket ship in comparison. I still like my shovel though, it’s got soul

  • @nhdetailpro
    @nhdetailpro 2 роки тому +17

    I have a 2016 street glide special with a 110ci kit,ported heads, and 585 cams making 115hp 135lbs torque. Twin cam Harley’s are not dead!

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 2 роки тому +4

    I have ZERO desire to get off of my Twin Cam bikes. I don't want an M8. My 96 EFI is smooth and reliable. My wife enjoys it. My SE117 Stage IV is a blast to ride.

  • @johndonkor243
    @johndonkor243 2 роки тому +24

    Although the M8’s have so much power potential, in my view, the twin cam 103 is pound for pound the most reliable HD out there. I’m talking the Floyd Mayweather motor of HD. I think for guys and gals looking to get into the Harley game, it’s ideal and cost effective. You can pick one up for a reasonable price and make it look nice. You don’t need to do anything to it except a Stage 2 set up. If you want to go further, go for it, but it’s not necessary. Getting an M8 seems more about keeping up with the Jones’s. Who cares! I say ride and be free!

  • @sidneysnottley6414
    @sidneysnottley6414 2 роки тому +20

    Always figured the last Twin Cam 103 would be pretty much bulletproof (for a HD) .. That's why I've got one (2016 SG). You'd have to drag me kicking & screaming to purchase a stock M8 at the moment- Too many issues.

  • @Donfleebie1
    @Donfleebie1 2 роки тому +5

    As I watch this video, my shop is installing a Woods TW222 in my 2012 103. Pipes, intake, FP3.

  • @MrTPF1
    @MrTPF1 2 роки тому +11

    I've got a Fatboy with the non-HO 103 and I love it. Like you said, great thump and power. No complaints.

  • @RickCrz6
    @RickCrz6 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you it’s awesome you brought up the 103 which I wouldn’t change for Milwaukee !!! I personally think twin cam all the way it sounds like a Harley is made to sound
    Please bring out more videos for the 103 …. Old is better let’s keep it real 👍👍👍👍 thank you for this video

  • @stevenkaylor9104
    @stevenkaylor9104 2 роки тому +3

    I love the tourge of a twin cam ..I went from a 96 to a 103 ho want a different in torque...

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      Oh yeah that 103 lay down some torque, horsepower isn't too bad either!

    • @stevenkaylor9104
      @stevenkaylor9104 2 роки тому

      Any idea how to get more gas mileage out of the 103 ho... everything is stock..and the cat still in

  • @tobypaone7070
    @tobypaone7070 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve a 2015 Road King with a 103HO and Stage II kit. Probably similar now in terms of torque and horsepower to a stock or Stage ! Milwaukee 8. No more upgrades needed for me! Plenty of power and fun to ride. I like the warranty with a new Milwaukee 8 but I like the price of my 2015. Paid for!

  • @superplumber5
    @superplumber5 2 роки тому +28

    09 Dyna 96" with woods TW 222 and power vision w/ wide band 02 sensors. Runs flawless and has tons of torque at the crack of the throttle. For me forever twin cam !!! As always great vids😎

    • @tetlow2
      @tetlow2 2 роки тому +1

      That's what I have planned for my 2010 street bob. What pipes and air cleaner are you running? And did you have it professionally tuned, or is it something you set up yourself?

    • @superplumber5
      @superplumber5 2 роки тому +3

      @@tetlow2 Bassani Road rage 2 into 1 stainless steel. The power vision has wide band 02 sensors so it keeps the afr at around 13.5 and is in closed loop. Superior throttle response. Money well spent

    • @superplumber5
      @superplumber5 2 роки тому +1

      @@tetlow2 ua-cam.com/users/shortsTWgHcgFsPp0?feature=share

    • @tetlow2
      @tetlow2 2 роки тому +2

      @Old Skool Racing thanks for letting me know. Your bike looks and sounds ds great, man. I'm diggin the bars, too. I'm a fan of apes.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you! TW 222 is just one the best cams out there for a twin cam in my opinion. Now if you've got a M8 they do have that grind for the M8, but there are some better M8 cams from Wood.

  • @Tracer414
    @Tracer414 Рік тому +5

    Most of the Harley-Davidson mechanics I speak to have nothing but compliments about the 103. In fact, the majority prefer the twin cam 103 over the Milwaukee 8. I have a 2015 RG special with a 103 and every mechanic tells me I have one of the best engines Harley Davidson ever made!

  • @kareycartwright
    @kareycartwright 9 місяців тому +4

    Yes, I totally agree with the rubber mounted 103 for the sound and feel . I have a 103 in my 2013 Dynas switchback. Enjoy your UA-cam station. Keep up the good work. Lots of good knowledge

  • @newsrider1130
    @newsrider1130 2 роки тому +19

    I prefer my 120R twin cam with modified heads, 66 mm throttle body, 6.2 gps injectors, S&S 240 high lift cams, roller lifters, Bassani 2 into 1 exhaust, 11.5/1 compression: Dyno run @ 138 tq; 135 hp. It handles like a kitten on the street and on the strip 10.30 sec. @ 140.9 mph

    • @dowhatyouwill
      @dowhatyouwill 2 роки тому +3

      DAYUM! Serious power

    • @dmystify1381
      @dmystify1381 2 роки тому +2

      ........👏👏👏👏

    • @rq38hq55
      @rq38hq55 2 роки тому +2

      Nice

    • @williamticker7724
      @williamticker7724 Рік тому +1

      That's awesome I would love to see some videos of that motor I've always heard about that motor being the beast..

    • @SoulTouchMusic93
      @SoulTouchMusic93 Рік тому +1

      That's the same as my gixxer in the quarter mile.

  • @Markotto09
    @Markotto09 2 роки тому +31

    I went from a Twin Cam to a M8, and back to a Twin Cam. I love my 103 HO TC with Tman cams, and Bassani 2 into 1 exhaust. We squeezed 100 HP with 112 ft lbs of torque (not bad for a cam swap). I agree with you in that the TC has more soul than the M8 (only an opinion).

    • @arkomblago2222
      @arkomblago2222 2 роки тому +1

      I have a 103 stock what set of tmans do you recommend?

    • @Markotto09
      @Markotto09 2 роки тому +2

      @@arkomblago2222 I have the 555.

    • @HarleyGuy96
      @HarleyGuy96 Рік тому +4

      Couldn't agree more man. I went from a 2012 twin cam street glide to a 2021 fat bob thinking i would love it. Not only do i miss the touring frame and all of the creature comforts that come with it but i also miss the sound and feel of that twin cam motor. Definitely looking to build a performance bagger in the near future and i think ill be doing it to a twin cam 103 road glide

    • @millenialmuscle8254
      @millenialmuscle8254 Рік тому +1

      *Laughs in Evo Master Race

  • @Slking507
    @Slking507 2 роки тому +10

    I rode both. I bought a used Limited and I do not regret it. I also compared my 17 Dyna with the 103 to a friends 107 Deluxe. Honestly I felt no perceivable difference. If anything the 103 felt more responsive to throttle, and sounded more like a Harley. The 107, and the larger versions, seem to need a lot of upgrades before they start sounding like a Harley. Yes, the Twin Cam sounded different than the Evo motors I was use to, but it still had that Harley sound I always admired. The M8 bikes sound like a Japanese bike to me. I could not care less about the power numbers really. If it doesn't have the sound, then it really does nothing for me. Power is just icing on the cake. All the power and no sound and I wouldn't be happy. Plus they don't vibrate enough... 😅

  • @ralphgertis7614
    @ralphgertis7614 2 роки тому +9

    I prefer my 07 custom with 103 kit than the new 88,its too smooth like you said. I think these custom and standard 103 bikes will increase in value by a large sum.

  • @waterwalker99
    @waterwalker99 2 роки тому +4

    Love my 103 just put in the Wood 222 cams and getting tuned this week

  • @NKBobcat
    @NKBobcat 2 роки тому +3

    I like your channel and just subscribed. I have a 2012 FLHX with the 103 and added V&H Pro pipe with so 4" slip ons. I used a SuperChips Vigilante to map my tune. Runs great but at 65 years old, this is going to be my last bike. I still ride daily and want to make sure my bike lasts. I was thinking to replace my cam tensioners and figure to throw a new cam in it and then I watched this. You give me hope! I will consider installing a Wood 222 and that should give me the power I lack and not add crazy wear and tear on the motor. Thanks!!

  • @d-lowz-no9931
    @d-lowz-no9931 8 місяців тому +2

    My opinion, the 103 is better. The M8 rides like a Suzuki Boulevard or a Vstar. Too smooth, it’s a Harley.. I wanna feel the rattle. It’s part of it.

  • @josephroberson9823
    @josephroberson9823 2 роки тому +3

    I have a 2013 Roadglide 103. Vance and Hines FP3 & power dual head pipe with Tab Performance 50cal mufflers( this involves a little magic.) Sonos good runs great...

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +1

      A lot of people get down on that FP3 but in my opinion they really have some great maps!

  • @tylerlower5140
    @tylerlower5140 Рік тому +3

    As much as I'd love to have a 131.... My stage 1 103 does just fine

  • @semtech30
    @semtech30 Рік тому +5

    My 2014 Rushmore 103 is an awesome bike with the Vance and Hines Fuel Pak 3 is all the power I need. Great fuel mileage to boot.

    • @whatyoumakeofit6635
      @whatyoumakeofit6635 6 місяців тому +1

      I just bought a 2016 103 streetglide, I pick it up next week. What is the mpg you get ?

  • @mk-zj6bk
    @mk-zj6bk 2 роки тому +3

    TC 110 w/cam …. Save money
    Excellent points you brought up.
    H-D dealers are charging 20% to 25% over MSRP on the 2022’s.

  • @sbw89
    @sbw89 2 роки тому +2

    I have a 2016 Fatboy with a 103. I'm pretty happy with it. The 114 is nice but it definitely does not have the feel of the 103. Note: I do have a stage one as well. I've had zero problems with my bike...

  • @AmericanPatriot-cw9xe
    @AmericanPatriot-cw9xe 2 роки тому +6

    i really wanted to keep my 2014 103 twin cam ultra classic, that bike with just a stage 1 was simply amazing n never gave me any problems either, I wanted a road glide for a while so bought a new one, I just wished I kept my 103 twin cam, I loved that sound and reliablility, something relaxing and soothing taking a spin for a while on that twin cam. I should have kept it but was offered book price.

  • @terencebigt3825
    @terencebigt3825 2 роки тому +11

    Thanks for this info! I was considering trading my 2012 RG for a new 107 or 114 but I’m going to add woods 222’s to my 103, 2 into 1 pro-pipe , with a Thundermax tune!

    • @danwhyte3524
      @danwhyte3524 2 роки тому +1

      Philly 3099 you can't beat the TW 222 cam made by Woods!! I think that setup should work really well for you good luck

    • @terencebigt3825
      @terencebigt3825 2 роки тому

      @@danwhyte3524 thanks! Excited about it!

    • @davidives9291
      @davidives9291 2 роки тому +1

      Consider a Andrews57 cam , equal to a 570 ss , lodes of hp & torque.

    • @terencebigt3825
      @terencebigt3825 2 роки тому

      @@davidives9291 okay 👌

  • @jhw326
    @jhw326 2 роки тому +3

    It is if UA-cam knew I have been thinking about this and bam this content appeared. I ride a metric but rented a 108 Deluxe for a day and plan to rent a touring HD later this summer. It would be fiscally irresponsible to purchase newer 108 HD with 4 kids in College but I am turning 50 and the metric 2 up with the wife won't cut it much longer. This content tells me the less expensive 103 HO and maybe even the 96 on a touring chassis would be a reasonable Harley to own for the garage. Then when I travel I guess I could always rent the 108 if needed. I've watch your content before but this time I will subscribe. Ride Safe.

  • @rollinstone1969
    @rollinstone1969 2 роки тому +4

    I have all 3 a 2010 103 police. Love it not the most powerful but good enough. A 17 110 that bike got some torque, for as light as it is. And then a 17 M8 stock. And you are right no “shake” doesn’t feel like a Harley. 👍

  • @kevinhines3706
    @kevinhines3706 2 роки тому +3

    I had a 2012 Road Glide with the 103 and now I have a 2022 Road Glide with the M8. They are night and day and I’m waiting on parts so that I can get my stage two upgrade. The M8 has much smoother power delivery.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      The M8 is a really crisp responding machine, Harley makes a step forward and many hate it lol. Change is hard but Harley is moving forward. That stage 2 will make your M8 come to life!

  • @mikemooney7353
    @mikemooney7353 2 роки тому +4

    Have a stage 4 2016 103. Very happy and not even considering a M8.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому

      They run really well with the stage 4 kits, they can put some power down with the right parts!

  • @alphawolf6458
    @alphawolf6458 2 роки тому +12

    With the proper upgrades 103's make solid numbers! Love the video keep it up!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks! Will do! Yeah just a stock 103 with a good cam and the right exhaust will really lay down solid horsepower and torque!

  • @SFV4
    @SFV4 2 роки тому +3

    I am very happy with my 103 FXDL!
    And when I crave for more, I ride my 208 HP Ducati

  • @shaydt4096
    @shaydt4096 10 місяців тому +3

    103 w/ Torkstar 577 cam

  • @jorgemelchor9000
    @jorgemelchor9000 2 роки тому +4

    Im ok with the 103 stock. I have the FXDB awesome machine. Long live to HD.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      They make really good power stock!

  • @anthonysantora4924
    @anthonysantora4924 2 роки тому +12

    I have a 103 and I did do a wood 222 cam upgrade plus I upgraded the whole cam chest, cam plate , pushrods and oil cooler and it feel like a new bike. It’s much more fun to ride at a much cheaper price. 👍👍

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +4

      Very nice! You did it the right for sure, you've got to have all the supporting parts to make it last and have some peace of mind.

    • @bradlozano2571
      @bradlozano2571 2 роки тому +1

      @@GixxerFoo What do you think about running an aftermarket high compression pistons of the same displacement of 103 along with a Feuling 525 cams?

    • @shanehardrath2761
      @shanehardrath2761 Рік тому +1

      was this on the H.O. or the 103?

  • @hoyt15flhtk82
    @hoyt15flhtk82 2 роки тому +4

    I love my 103 HO in my 15 Limited!!! I've done exhaust,air,tuner,cams,adj. P.R.,Hydro Lifters,Police clutch,and dropped a tooth on drive sprocket from 41 to 40. Also still have my original HD oil pump in bike. When checked run-out was only .0001. Which is almost unheard of with the 103 Cranks. Ride safe!!!

  • @ohiooutdoorsman4338
    @ohiooutdoorsman4338 2 роки тому +1

    Twin cams are life my buddy just got a 107 did a Harley stage 1 filter tune and he has Reinhardts I have a 15 Rushmore ultra Arlen ness big sucker bassani road rage and FP3 and my bike is faster then his turns out there really is another replacement over displacement 😂

  • @danielleeclingansr6032
    @danielleeclingansr6032 Рік тому +4

    I can only speak for the 103 which I’m very impressed with!

  • @Dan-rc4cx
    @Dan-rc4cx 2 роки тому +5

    I installed 57H cams and 107" cylinders and Pistons on my Twin Cam. Compression is 10.25:1. these parts were far cheaper and easier than buying a new $25,000 motorcycle and I am easliy passing New Milwaukee 8 114" all the time. I did all the work myself and so the total cost of the 107" with cams was about $1,200 including machine work, pistons, rings, tuning, bearings, gaskets, seals and oils. I'm sitting at about 110 HP and 123 torque. As far as I can tell the only advantage the M8 has is the heads are amazing right from the factory. The 4 valve heads move a ton of air.

  • @jameswilson8432
    @jameswilson8432 2 роки тому +2

    I have a 2014 street glide special. When I bought it with 20 miles on it during my test ride it had been dynod with 111hp and 115 ft lbs of torque. I now have right at 40,000 miles and thinking about cam and cam bearings. I am not sure the build on the bike when I bought it from Wildcat Harley. I asked but never got the specks on the build. I love the ride with 103 motor. It may have the 259e cam but not sure. I will find out if I change the cam bearings.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому

      Don't wait if you suspect those cam bearings going out, those things shell and the needle bearings will go everywhere. Damn they put some power in that bike for sure!

  • @vjoddfellow8352
    @vjoddfellow8352 2 роки тому +10

    After owning my 80" Evo powered 1990 FXR since new, I got my first twin cam about a month ago. It is a 103. I know nothing about fuel injection, computers or mapping but I'm learning. Your vids are very informative and are helping me decide where I might go with this motor in the future. Right now I just threw on some slip ons and will ride the hell out of it. Nice work dude. 👍 (and yes I kept the FXR, damn best Harley out there!)

    • @CharlesLambert-n2b
      @CharlesLambert-n2b Рік тому +3

      I had the fxr with solid lifers didn’t like the noise but run better than some new ones

  • @jimharrison4526
    @jimharrison4526 4 місяці тому +2

    I went to the stealer a couple of weeks ago looking to trade in my 2016 FLHTK. Long story short, I’ve since then ordered front and rear Ohlins shocks and next I’ll be working on a new aftermarket exhaust, air cleaner and cam. I’m keeping what I have (no payments) and after watching your videos I think I know which way I’m going to go. A 110ci. Thanks for your videos and the passion you show us for our Harley’s.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for supporting the channel! That's the way I like to do it myself too! There's so much you can do with a Harley and keeping the one that's paid for especially after you do all your upgrades that's going to be something no new bike can touch!

  • @charlesfritz7131
    @charlesfritz7131 9 місяців тому +1

    I like my 17 Heritage with the 103 HO quite well...at over 80k miles it still runs strong and can hang in with those ugly a$$ed M8 over priced things.

  • @ramonfuentes25
    @ramonfuentes25 2 роки тому +2

    I’m thinking of putting a big bore 103 on my 02 Dyna Lowrider

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому

      Very nice! You're really getting in there after it!

  • @GuruLiving4
    @GuruLiving4 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent info! I have a 14 103 ho sg. I may consider that woods 222

  • @martinyeskey5214
    @martinyeskey5214 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a comparison between the Woods 222 cam & the S&S MR103 cam on a stock/stage 1
    Rushmore Streetglide?
    Please & Thank you!

  • @craiggann5917
    @craiggann5917 2 роки тому +3

    I have 2015 103 and could not be more happy. Love this channel

  • @RyDawg1904
    @RyDawg1904 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 13 RG with 103 dyno vision SE airfilter and slip ONS. I have in the box S&S 551 cams and everything I need for cam job. But my bike runs so good now I'm waiting on cam job.???

  • @jimellis7239
    @jimellis7239 Рік тому +1

    I sure do miss my twin cam 96 cubic inch I've got the Milwaukee 107 it just doesn't have the feel of the twin cam

  • @Imachowderhead
    @Imachowderhead 4 місяці тому +2

    My buddies M8 took a dump at 50K. Love my 103

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  4 місяці тому +1

      Dang that sucks, the 17 to 19 models before they updated the oil pump were notorious for that.

    • @Imachowderhead
      @Imachowderhead 4 місяці тому +1

      @@GixxerFoo Yeah hes getting it fixed now. 2k in repairs.

  • @eh9997
    @eh9997 2 роки тому +1

    Can you briefly compare the engine temperature and fuel consumption 103 vs 107 m8?

  • @Biker-ux1fz
    @Biker-ux1fz Рік тому +1

    My 15 RG 103 with SE 211 cams makes 94 hp and 110 tq and will run right with any 107 or stock 114.

  • @timurbaniak6522
    @timurbaniak6522 2 роки тому +2

    I have a twin cooled 2016 Road Ultra stage 1 with power vision tuner. I love this bike and got it on the cheap from HD dealer.

  • @LonesomeNomad137
    @LonesomeNomad137 2 роки тому +2

    Great video especially since I just picked up a 2013 twin cam 103. Thanks.

  • @jamescantlin1072
    @jamescantlin1072 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 2020 urta limited there just getting done with we went 128 zippers sleeper kit with 55 mm intack and 472 redshift cam stage two heads d&d 2x2xcat headers and to munch more to put in here we should be coming in around 133 hp and 158 tq is not verified yet should be around there if tq is in 150 or so I will be very happy and have taken other steps to insure reliability. Harley Stereo I was not happy with when I got it So headstage 2 put in was was very happy with that but have recently decided to add 2 speakers to saddle eggs and 2 speakers to my lowers and one more amp It's gonna be like having a new bike and another fun summer.

  • @rugershooter5268
    @rugershooter5268 2 роки тому +1

    If I want smooooooth then I'll ride my Vrod or crotch rocket........both of these I'm never in their power range(well the rod I have hit 7000 in 2nd, and once getting on the interstate I hit 9000 in 3rd on my crotch rocket)
    I don't think I want an M8

  • @user-pm8ri8so7d
    @user-pm8ri8so7d 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m sticking with my Twin Cam bikes

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  4 місяці тому +1

      Twin Cam is a solid motor, they got a bad reputation there for a bit but Harley got it right on the 103.