17th edition amd 3 split load board from around 2017, wiring colours didn't change til 2004/5 and it was still being shoved in as last as 2007/8. The grey outer sheath on the red/black light switch cable suggests 1965-1972. It's obviously have additions and a partial rewire. Things to check - does local building control have a record of the changes, if not you definitely need an EICR though it's recommended to get one any time you see a socket circuit on a 16 amp. After establishing that a DIYer can run in additional cables but will still need an electrician to verify, test, connect and sign off any additions or alterations. If not house insurance can become void, as can agreements with mortgage lenders which have been known to end up in repossession.
@effervescence5664 Great information in your comment, thank you. The property was let out for the last few year before I bought and the EICR passed but it's renewal is coming up in 2026 I believe. I just need to double check if the additional sockets were also checked when the last EICR was done. In the hallway there is one single socket on its own circuit with a 16 amp. And there is another circuit for just one socket upstairs also on its own 16 amp circuit. Not sure if you can make some sort of assumption from this ?
@@jlpropertychannel9900 Does it have central heating off a combi boiler. It was common for 2up 2 down council property in the late 60s and early 70s to have storage heaters. Where are the sockets positioned in relation to the rest of the room arecthey adjacent to where a storage radiator would be.
@effervescence5664 It has a heat only boiler with a hot water cylinder. The additional socket seems like it is in a position where a storage heater would of been, yes. I will be converting to a combination boiler in a week.
@@jlpropertychannel9900 There you go then, that's likely the answer. Heat only was cheap to install, post storage heaters when gas became the cheap alternative. I'm surprised you didn't look into getting a heat pump if it's already got a cylinder cupboard the mcs grant and the boons offered by mortgage lenders reducing the APR% for green credentials is actually quite the incentive for first time buyers. Not provided nationwide but where you can get it it's normally worth while.
@effervescence5664 I was thinking about it, but I heard that the after care for heat pumps can be difficult. If something goes wrong... it might be difficult to get fixed, etc. Or is this not the case. Is the grant £7500 or something along the lines of this amount.
They only stopped using red and black in around 2005, lots and then they had to get rid of old stock, so could still be found in rewires from as late as 2007... Also just because the consumer unit is plastic does not necessarily mean it needs replacing.. New regulations require SPD devices to be fitted as standard, also most decent sparks no longer fit split load boards and use RCBO's, I would even go as so far to say use double pole RCBO's, this is required for car chargers but will likely become the norm but some manufacturers are being slow to adapt to changing regulations. Also those are only type AC RCD's where as new standard is type A... By the way most sparkies could give you a rough idea if it needed a rewire without charging, so why guess.. It is still best to get an EICR as even if it is modern does not mean it is safe, there are lots of bad DIY jobs out there... For reference alarm bells for me is the bedroom socket circuit is on a 16A supply, where as the other socket circuit is on 32A, given age of property it was likely originall a 32A ring but probably has a break somewhere and rather than fix it properly they down rated it to 16A, depending on what and where the fault is this could still be dangerous, im thinking something like a nail through the cable... Could just be because it looks like maybe they Spured off a spur off a spur with the newer colours which you cant do on a ring final circuit.
17th edition amd 3 split load board from around 2017, wiring colours didn't change til 2004/5 and it was still being shoved in as last as 2007/8. The grey outer sheath on the red/black light switch cable suggests 1965-1972. It's obviously have additions and a partial rewire.
Things to check - does local building control have a record of the changes, if not you definitely need an EICR though it's recommended to get one any time you see a socket circuit on a 16 amp.
After establishing that a DIYer can run in additional cables but will still need an electrician to verify, test, connect and sign off any additions or alterations. If not house insurance can become void, as can agreements with mortgage lenders which have been known to end up in repossession.
@effervescence5664 Great information in your comment, thank you.
The property was let out for the last few year before I bought and the EICR passed but it's renewal is coming up in 2026 I believe. I just need to double check if the additional sockets were also checked when the last EICR was done.
In the hallway there is one single socket on its own circuit with a 16 amp. And there is another circuit for just one socket upstairs also on its own 16 amp circuit.
Not sure if you can make some sort of assumption from this ?
@@jlpropertychannel9900 Does it have central heating off a combi boiler. It was common for 2up 2 down council property in the late 60s and early 70s to have storage heaters. Where are the sockets positioned in relation to the rest of the room arecthey adjacent to where a storage radiator would be.
@effervescence5664 It has a heat only boiler with a hot water cylinder. The additional socket seems like it is in a position where a storage heater would of been, yes.
I will be converting to a combination boiler in a week.
@@jlpropertychannel9900 There you go then, that's likely the answer. Heat only was cheap to install, post storage heaters when gas became the cheap alternative.
I'm surprised you didn't look into getting a heat pump if it's already got a cylinder cupboard the mcs grant and the boons offered by mortgage lenders reducing the APR% for green credentials is actually quite the incentive for first time buyers. Not provided nationwide but where you can get it it's normally worth while.
@effervescence5664 I was thinking about it, but I heard that the after care for heat pumps can be difficult. If something goes wrong... it might be difficult to get fixed, etc. Or is this not the case.
Is the grant £7500 or something along the lines of this amount.
They only stopped using red and black in around 2005, lots and then they had to get rid of old stock, so could still be found in rewires from as late as 2007... Also just because the consumer unit is plastic does not necessarily mean it needs replacing.. New regulations require SPD devices to be fitted as standard, also most decent sparks no longer fit split load boards and use RCBO's, I would even go as so far to say use double pole RCBO's, this is required for car chargers but will likely become the norm but some manufacturers are being slow to adapt to changing regulations. Also those are only type AC RCD's where as new standard is type A...
By the way most sparkies could give you a rough idea if it needed a rewire without charging, so why guess.. It is still best to get an EICR as even if it is modern does not mean it is safe, there are lots of bad DIY jobs out there...
For reference alarm bells for me is the bedroom socket circuit is on a 16A supply, where as the other socket circuit is on 32A, given age of property it was likely originall a 32A ring but probably has a break somewhere and rather than fix it properly they down rated it to 16A, depending on what and where the fault is this could still be dangerous, im thinking something like a nail through the cable... Could just be because it looks like maybe they Spured off a spur off a spur with the newer colours which you cant do on a ring final circuit.
Thanks a lot 😮 learnt a lot there. It is great to see comments like this... Can really help me and other . Thank you 😊