@@SankarshanGhosh oh, really? Didn’t check, managed to snatch a CSL DD instead.. But no matter, i still fully support as much competition as possible, helps push things further and the prices lower
Does it come with a desk clamp? I'm really interested in buying the bundle with the pedals along with the SHH Newt2 shifter, which is going to be a huge upgrade from my g29, but don't have the room for a cockpit and want to desk mount.
The pricing seems great. I saw some people saying they are using logitech wheels and the one thing I can say is invest in your pedals before a wheel. You will see bigger improvements in your driving with good pedals then you will with a DD. I'm my experience.
I agree, though a wheel base upgrade is more fun! Personally I put a TrueBrake into my Logitech pedals which I think is a great option if you don't have a rig. Maybe even if you do. Loadcell feel for much less money, then you can get into a new wheel base.
@@justpostedagain Great point. I guess it depends on if you want to focus on improving and being competitive or if you want a more immersive experience. Ideally you get both but easier said then done sometimes LOL
I Love my V3. I know expensive…. But I also like the pedals that came with my CSL dd Pro. Just needs better brake. So is a Great time to be a Sim Racer.. if Inflation, and Shortages where not a problem..
That's a fact ! I'm on a Thrustmaster TMX and i wanted to switch to the TS-PC servo after some testing at a friends house, a guy nearby was selling T-CLM pedals for half the price so i jumped on it and it's a night and day difference, so much that i'm going to wait a little to buy some wheels with the servo since i re-discover what my setup can do.
For the firmware, I was having the same issue. What I did was go to Cammus' site to the downloads area and downloaded the .dfu firmware file. I then pointed my software to the file and got my base flashed (Make sure to check the "manual firmware update" box). Since then, I've been able to use the app to do the auto flashing. For the mounting, I have the NLR GT Elite cockpit and I did not want to drill my base. I went to Lowes and picked up 2 L brackets and use them to mount from the side along with the two mounts at the bottom like you have. It's pretty solid. I tried to comment on this before but I think because I put a link in to imgur for a pic of my mounting, youtube deleted the comment.
I bought the 3 in 1 (wheelbase, wheel, and 3 pedal set) and have to say for under $1k, this is the best bang for your buck setup you can buy today. Mike pointed out the cons, feels like the firmware could really make this hit it's true potential.
@@DrenTazz For one, they're not forcing a steering wheel ecosystem on you. You can use any car steering wheel that has a 70mm bolt pattern. Also, I was able to customize my NRG style quick release with some cheaper ones so I basically can switch between my 2 wheels for $50. Then, there's the buttons on the base, perfect for a drift setup so you can return to pit and make adjustments all there. And the pedals are a good value load cell setup (not reviewed here, obviously) that I got to complete the package.
there are adapters for pretty much any wheel base to fit any wheel you want, or they are easily 3d printed. hopefully the software will improve with cammus, fanatec software is good but then they have a lot of hardware issues... even before the dd wheels, and also, at least in the past, have had a reputation for taking a very long time getting wheels that are sent back for repair returned to the customer, i know of one personally that had to wait almost 5 months for the return of his wheel after it had stopped working just a couple of weeks after purchasing it, this happened a long time ago though, might be better now. but products from a company in that price range with a consistent reputation of hardware failure through the years is not good!
I like the warts and all detail to this showing setup and not just a final review overview. It takes time but really helps those considering a purchase.
Taking the fact that it's around 100$ cheaper than Fanatec for me it sounds like a decent deal. Still. With the prices of 800+ dollars I would prefer a set of coilovers for my car rather than a racing wheel.
Edit: to be clear, that was a positive comment on the wheel. It should cost more - or atleast the market would support that. As someone who builds their own button boxes, essentially pricing their wheel around $200 they have to be eating money on that. That doesn’t even make sense
Like always for us Canadian, the rate and the shipping are killing the deal. When you add all the costs it is at about the same price that the better finish Simagic wheel.
Thanks for the review, I bought the Cammus base and wheel, but it won’t work with my current DIY rig, so looking at going to a profile rig. Would love to see a review on how well it works with iRacing and RaceRoom as they’re my go to’s. When I finally get to test I’ll fire up AC as it seems to be the benchmark.
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, RaceRoom crashes my computer every time I play it. And I can’t figure out why. And I cancelled my iRacing subscription a few months ago, so I can’t offer any advice on those titles.
It took the Fanatec podium series multiple years before the firmware got good (ver 442 is amazing). Unfortunately, after less than 200 hours is when my DD Podium broke. Stupid wireless quick release stopped working. This is my second DD1 that has to get RMAed, and I am not sure I can recommend the fanatec hardware at this point.
The steering wheel looks exactly like you'd find at an Auto/Speed shop. Exactly the same horn button and ring as per a sports wheel for you normal car! Could be well worth the purchase for a DD wheel package!
I mean I mounted a genuine OCC motorsport wheel to my G29 because it was like 45 bucks and absolutely transforms the G29. So I would not be surprised if the wheel is a real racing wheel just with no branding since they seem to be pretty cheap.
Nice video! U should give VRS Direct Force Pro a go sometime it's awesome with it's latest firmware updates just gets better and better. Some people r comparing it to simucube for a cheaper price.
@@SimRacing604 it's real on the front unless they changed it from the version I have. Lol I suppose its possible they changed the material and I'm completely wrong. Either way, you gave it a fair go and I appreciate that! :)
@@DouglasThompson I saw another vid in which the reviewer was explaining it actually was a carbon leaf. I don't know myself as I'm waiting for mine to get home :)
@@DouglasThompson 😂 I was thinking abou you snd your set up bro. I know u all about that Cammus life man. It look so good I just assumed it was pricey... should have asked my boi yessir 💯
Other reviews indicate much of the same. Seems like the headroom this base supports has more room for improvement and clearly it can already achieve great results.
From what I understand, the magnets in the shifters are very easily replaceable and you can use heavier gauss magnets to get a different feel. If you're in communication with the manufacturer maybe suggest they include extra magnets with different strengths so one can get the feel they want. Being that it's a new product that is basically meant for the Chinese market, there's probably going to be a lot of firmware/software updates getting it right. I'm guessing in 6 months it's going to be top quality as long as it's well built.
5:09 I believe the word you're looking for there is "Chonky, Chonktastic, or Chonkalicious!" Awesome vid, Mike. I'm getting jealous of your DD Wheel Ecosystem collection. ;-)
I feel like Fanatec may have been the cause for our little DD revolution. The DD1/2 and now specifically the CSL DD causing competition to form. Remember folks, monopolies are bad, when you have competition in the market place, it's us that gets the best end of the deal. CSL DD, Moza and now this. Honestly, if you have pedals already. The moza and this seems like an amazing deal. Or if you want a complete kit. But course you can't b just mount this DD to a desk or any flimsy rig. Yet this may edge out the DD1 AND 2. My DD2 runs at 9 to 12nm peak, I feel that's my sweet spot for feel, detail and so forth. This DD can easily handle that, is tempting me.
I have to disagree with you there, fanatec was completely behind the ball with DD's and there first release with the DD1/2 was terrible and the dd2 was a real when i got my hands on it, if i had of been a regular consumer and i went from there clubsport base to there DD i would have been devastated. i think overtime they got it working ok with firmware updates but the amount of issues and breakages i have no interest in revisiting there hardware, the CSL DD release was also behind the mark they just released it to try and get into that lower price DD range and took a bunch of money and then just delayed it for ages, the days of fanatec being the leaders or as you have put it as "revolutionary" are long gone and were before the time of DD wheels, they had the market and there youtubers and stayed relevant, but yeah nah
Enjoyed the review, but why no mention about the in-game use of the shifters and how the buttons and dials work. And what do those buttons on the wheel base do, etc…
I went from a TMX PRO (gear/belt hybrid) to this and I must say, it's a big upgrade, the immersion is so much better and you can buy a 3 in 1 set for under $1k.
that steering wheel i bought month ago on aliexpress to upgrade my T300RS. Exactly the same one. Pretty sure it costs like 30 bucks without shipping costs. Tbf not a bad wheel but nothing to brag about
I'm watching your video and something strikes out at me. When you switched to ACC you lost your centering ffb. You could still feel the road affects i.e. curbs but nothing in the line of forcing the wheel back to center. Almost like it was only spring loaded. I have that same feel in ACC but on console when I switched to FANATEC from TM TS-XW wheel. I am thinking it is something with the games data output. I am no dev but odd that you got the exact same feel I do but you are on PC.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm on a Series X and PlayStation for now and must have that comparability with a Chronus Drive Hub. Great review as always Mike! God bless and race on 👍😎🏁
the DFU error is a windows 10 stupid driver missmatch. What it means by DFU is it puts the board in flash mode that allows it to write firmwares to it. You can down a piece of software from impulse RC that has a DFU fix.. try and see if it works.
the quick release can be replace with any other one i have seen a video on it the wheel base looks sweet but 200 shipping killed it for me. i found it on ali express for 499 the base and wheel but its not there anymore
Great question. I am only able to get two bolts into the base with my GT Elite plate. It worked out fine for me, but if you want it to be very stable you’ll need to drill two extra holes
@@ralphbooger4756 the g29 works great on gran turismo, dirt series, dirt rally 2.0 and wrc10 tho... on pc it also works great with grid, project cars, assetto corsa and even ETS2
Can't watch the video yet, but I checked their website. The price is great, but they want to charge $200 to ship it to North Carolina. Kind of like when you find really cheap stuff on eBay.
There is a UA-camr, Douglas Thompson, who is now the US warehouse for Cammus. I purchase from him the set shown in this review for $780 total. Had the package in my hands 5 to 7 days later. He should still have units for sale. I really enjoy this wheelbase so far. I wanted a simicube 2 pro but didnt want to spend 2k on base and wheel. I thought I needed them 25nms but turns out, 15nm is too much for me. hahaha I'm not a small guy either (6' @ 235 lbs). I'll get their loadcell pedals next.
@@Hailstrom2003 yeah, I know Douglas! Great dude. This is good information, thanks. I’ll try and add a note to this video with a contact link for Douglas
You should see if you can keep the horn, if your able to run the wires from that Quick Release to the back of that horn button you should have a horn... I put a Quick Release in my 87' Monte Carlo SS and wanted to keep the Horn so the QR I chose is similar to the one you got with this set up.
Interesting talk in china from some of my chinese suppliers, is this simply a cosmetic change rebranding of the Kickstarter failure Feel VR DD that had same price bracket in 2018, which no one received?
Shipping must really vary widely! Says $200 shipping for me in the US. What's going on with that. I know it's heavy and such but that seems a little much. Where are there's coming from?
I know nothing about these but arent they just really nice game controllers? Please educate me but I think $500 for a controller that doesnt come with pedals and a bunch of software Is a Krazy price. Is this a budget model? I guess I wont be getting into the Sim side of the hobby. I could buy a full car for that, heck, I could build a car for $500. Wow, I was kind of expecting it to be less than $200
Unfortunately no. It would be easy enough to create one with a sheet of paper I guess. But honestly I’m not sure I’d want to get into drilling a heavy guard steel plate anyway
@@SimRacing604 I just think if you make your own mounting pattern you should include a template because it makes one less thing the user gets wrong. That said, any new manufacturer would benefit from using a mounting pattern with a very popular and well supported existing product.
@@SimRacing604 hmm. I used the in-game minimum force slider to get a tire resistance or road contact feel and also played around with steering scale to get some tire flex feel for ACC using a CSW 2.5. Prior to this ACC felt pretty muted in ffb regarding road contact feel compared to AC1 with CM settings very high gain.
@@RedLine0069 Its not just the settings on the Fanalab. You will have to tweak the individual game's settings as well. Try playing with the scale of the wheel rotation and force intensity. I got AC to have as close as RL possible using CM extra gain and filter, scale and minimum force tweaks with nearly all default Fanalab settings. Then I base this to match my other games to replicate what I get from AC. AMS2 is not bad but needs a lot of trial and error plus it is inconsistent with brake feel settings across their cars. AMS2 has taken me the longest to work out and it can do it well but not as refined in their implementation compared to ACC or how the Kunos devs code.
Only on sale due to no sales lol. And then the wheel base it self is way over sized and way over weight. Also a DD wheel base shouldn't need a fan. And last thing is the buttons on the actual wheel base are useless who wants to reach around a wheel to hit a button? Lol those buttons are a gimmick to get people to think they are getting extra for the money. Should of added more buttons to the actual wheel lol
Bizarre that ACC, a game that many consider the benchmark for FFB is dead on the Cammus. I run my DD2 at 50% on ACC, so peaking at 12.5 nM and it's incredibly detailed and sharp - it's definitely the sweet spot for power range, but it seems like the Cammus software is just losing something in translation for you :/
I would say AC is typically the benchmark, I have heard acc ffb is not as good in many ways but they could have updated the ffb without me knowing as I don't play acc.
in my opinion if your going Direct Drive Route. Your probably serious about sim racing as it takes time to Set up and get the Details and most out of the Direct Drive . So most Racing titles and Direct Drives are not for Console. I believe one of the only is Fanatec who has to pay Licenses to get access to the Consoles Xbox and PlayStation. The DD and Wheel cost more than a Console
@@SIMRIG412 The CSL DD Pro GT bundle of $700 bucks,. play station is $700 bucks I know what I. Talking about. The pedals are Crap/ Fanatec sucks And the tech your buying Go sit down somewhere. Go Buy a PC is my Point!! Get the most from sim racing
@@darwinLee81283 I have a pc, but also have friends on ps5 and series x that i race against on other stuff, so a pc only wheel is not something I'll consider.
I have to remember to not put links in my comments as youtube removes them. Anyways, Toyosim in Australia sells the Cammus line-up so no crazy shipping prices for you.
@@SimRacing604 same price when you take into consideration the massive fee to ship cammus and alpha mini has far better force feedback details and software
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CSL DD, moza r9 and now this… simracing with both kidneys just gets better and better 😃
It’s a great time to be in our niche, for sure. Thanks for watchinf
@@SimRacing604 thanks for making quality content, mate! 👍
Except for the fact that they don’t ship to any third world countries
@@SankarshanGhosh oh, really? Didn’t check, managed to snatch a CSL DD instead..
But no matter, i still fully support as much competition as possible, helps push things further and the prices lower
Does it come with a desk clamp? I'm really interested in buying the bundle with the pedals along with the SHH Newt2 shifter, which is going to be a huge upgrade from my g29, but don't have the room for a cockpit and want to desk mount.
The pricing seems great. I saw some people saying they are using logitech wheels and the one thing I can say is invest in your pedals before a wheel. You will see bigger improvements in your driving with good pedals then you will with a DD. I'm my experience.
I agree, though a wheel base upgrade is more fun! Personally I put a TrueBrake into my Logitech pedals which I think is a great option if you don't have a rig. Maybe even if you do. Loadcell feel for much less money, then you can get into a new wheel base.
@@justpostedagain Great point. I guess it depends on if you want to focus on improving and being competitive or if you want a more immersive experience. Ideally you get both but easier said then done sometimes LOL
I Love my V3. I know expensive…. But I also like the pedals that came with my CSL dd Pro. Just needs better brake. So is a Great time to be a Sim Racer.. if Inflation, and Shortages where not a problem..
That's a fact ! I'm on a Thrustmaster TMX and i wanted to switch to the TS-PC servo after some testing at a friends house, a guy nearby was selling T-CLM pedals for half the price so i jumped on it and it's a night and day difference, so much that i'm going to wait a little to buy some wheels with the servo since i re-discover what my setup can do.
I’m mostly in sim racing for the fun and not the lap time so i think a wheelbase would be better
For the firmware, I was having the same issue. What I did was go to Cammus' site to the downloads area and downloaded the .dfu firmware file. I then pointed my software to the file and got my base flashed (Make sure to check the "manual firmware update" box). Since then, I've been able to use the app to do the auto flashing.
For the mounting, I have the NLR GT Elite cockpit and I did not want to drill my base. I went to Lowes and picked up 2 L brackets and use them to mount from the side along with the two mounts at the bottom like you have. It's pretty solid. I tried to comment on this before but I think because I put a link in to imgur for a pic of my mounting, youtube deleted the comment.
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I bought the 3 in 1 (wheelbase, wheel, and 3 pedal set) and have to say for under $1k, this is the best bang for your buck setup you can buy today. Mike pointed out the cons, feels like the firmware could really make this hit it's true potential.
why not the csl dd? only because of the 15 nm? cuz i don't really see this as a real competitor to fanatec at this price...
@@DrenTazz For one, they're not forcing a steering wheel ecosystem on you. You can use any car steering wheel that has a 70mm bolt pattern. Also, I was able to customize my NRG style quick release with some cheaper ones so I basically can switch between my 2 wheels for $50. Then, there's the buttons on the base, perfect for a drift setup so you can return to pit and make adjustments all there. And the pedals are a good value load cell setup (not reviewed here, obviously) that I got to complete the package.
I’d stick with Moza or Fanatec before going Cammus, their software seems very rough still with very mixed reviews by reviewers
there are adapters for pretty much any wheel base to fit any wheel you want, or they are easily 3d printed.
hopefully the software will improve with cammus, fanatec software is good but then they have a lot of hardware issues...
even before the dd wheels, and also, at least in the past, have had a reputation for taking a very long time getting wheels that are sent back for repair returned to the customer, i know of one personally that had to wait almost 5 months for the return of his wheel after it had stopped working just a couple of weeks after purchasing it, this happened a long time ago though, might be better now.
but products from a company in that price range with a consistent reputation of hardware failure through the years is not good!
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I like the warts and all detail to this showing setup and not just a final review overview. It takes time but really helps those considering a purchase.
Thank you Tim!
Taking the fact that it's around 100$ cheaper than Fanatec for me it sounds like a decent deal. Still. With the prices of 800+ dollars I would prefer a set of coilovers for my car rather than a racing wheel.
Edit: to be clear, that was a positive comment on the wheel. It should cost more - or atleast the market would support that.
As someone who builds their own button boxes, essentially pricing their wheel around $200 they have to be eating money on that. That doesn’t even make sense
Thanks for your detailed review. I have been looking for a new review on this Cammus wheelbase setup. 👍
Like always for us Canadian, the rate and the shipping are killing the deal.
When you add all the costs it is at about the same price that the better finish Simagic wheel.
shipping only(EU) is 250, plus 22% VAT! Its not looking that great
I wonder if it would be cheaper if I shipped to you as I'm in the United States.
get a Fanatec
truth me that is a blessing not to buy this, a little more $$ and you will on another level of quality, feel and supported sim games.
@@RajinderYadav with what base?
Thanks for the review, I bought the Cammus base and wheel, but it won’t work with my current DIY rig, so looking at going to a profile rig. Would love to see a review on how well it works with iRacing and RaceRoom as they’re my go to’s. When I finally get to test I’ll fire up AC as it seems to be the benchmark.
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, RaceRoom crashes my computer every time I play it. And I can’t figure out why. And I cancelled my iRacing subscription a few months ago, so I can’t offer any advice on those titles.
Why won't it work, if you don't mind me asking?
There is an American shipper, Douglas Thompson. He has like 20 units, get in touch with him. Think Cammus website has the email address.
It took the Fanatec podium series multiple years before the firmware got good (ver 442 is amazing). Unfortunately, after less than 200 hours is when my DD Podium broke. Stupid wireless quick release stopped working. This is my second DD1 that has to get RMAed, and I am not sure I can recommend the fanatec hardware at this point.
The 442 firmware is definitely amazing but what a wait time get the Podiums what they advertised.
The steering wheel looks exactly like you'd find at an Auto/Speed shop. Exactly the same horn button and ring as per a sports wheel for you normal car! Could be well worth the purchase for a DD wheel package!
I mean I mounted a genuine OCC motorsport wheel to my G29 because it was like 45 bucks and absolutely transforms the G29. So I would not be surprised if the wheel is a real racing wheel just with no branding since they seem to be pretty cheap.
Nice video! U should give VRS Direct Force Pro a go sometime it's awesome with it's latest firmware updates just gets better and better. Some people r comparing it to simucube for a cheaper price.
The market is definitely getting better and more competitive!
We're very curious to see Thrustmaster and Logitech's response to the competition.
Aside from your carbon fiber comment ;) I loved your review! Great and fair as is expected from you.
Thanks my guy! What did I get wrong with the carbon fibre?
@@SimRacing604 it's real on the front unless they changed it from the version I have. Lol I suppose its possible they changed the material and I'm completely wrong. Either way, you gave it a fair go and I appreciate that! :)
@@DouglasThompson I saw another vid in which the reviewer was explaining it actually was a carbon leaf. I don't know myself as I'm waiting for mine to get home :)
@@maxibnsolmyr9042 it's full carbon fiber. :)
@@DouglasThompson Ty for reply, pleased to hear then, even if it wasn't that a big deal after all.
Wow never knew just how well priced the Cammus is. Good bang 4 buck for me one day. Thanks SR604
Thanks for watching dude!
@@SimRacing604 yessir
Damn...I guess I didn't do it justice. Lol
@@DouglasThompson 😂 I was thinking abou you snd your set up bro. I know u all about that Cammus life man. It look so good I just assumed it was pricey... should have asked my boi yessir 💯
Other reviews indicate much of the same. Seems like the headroom this base supports has more room for improvement and clearly it can already achieve great results.
From what I understand, the magnets in the shifters are very easily replaceable and you can use heavier gauss magnets to get a different feel.
If you're in communication with the manufacturer maybe suggest they include extra magnets with different strengths so one can get the feel they want.
Being that it's a new product that is basically meant for the Chinese market, there's probably going to be a lot of firmware/software updates getting it right. I'm guessing in 6 months it's going to be top quality as long as it's well built.
5:09 I believe the word you're looking for there is "Chonky, Chonktastic, or Chonkalicious!"
Awesome vid, Mike. I'm getting jealous of your DD Wheel Ecosystem collection. ;-)
I feel like Fanatec may have been the cause for our little DD revolution. The DD1/2 and now specifically the CSL DD causing competition to form.
Remember folks, monopolies are bad, when you have competition in the market place, it's us that gets the best end of the deal.
CSL DD, Moza and now this. Honestly, if you have pedals already. The moza and this seems like an amazing deal.
Or if you want a complete kit. But course you can't b just mount this DD to a desk or any flimsy rig. Yet this may edge out the DD1 AND 2.
My DD2 runs at 9 to 12nm peak, I feel that's my sweet spot for feel, detail and so forth. This DD can easily handle that, is tempting me.
I have to disagree with you there, fanatec was completely behind the ball with DD's and there first release with the DD1/2 was terrible and the dd2 was a real when i got my hands on it, if i had of been a regular consumer and i went from there clubsport base to there DD i would have been devastated. i think overtime they got it working ok with firmware updates but the amount of issues and breakages i have no interest in revisiting there hardware, the CSL DD release was also behind the mark they just released it to try and get into that lower price DD range and took a bunch of money and then just delayed it for ages, the days of fanatec being the leaders or as you have put it as "revolutionary" are long gone and were before the time of DD wheels, they had the market and there youtubers and stayed relevant, but yeah nah
Nice honest review. Thanks. 👍
Thank you for this review!
My pleasure. Thank you for watching
oh baby the things I would do for one of these bad boys
their handbrake looks so much better then fanatecs as well
Fanatecs handbrake is definitely the weak point in their line up, its absolute garbage (in contrast to their h pattern shifter which is bombproof)
Enjoyed the review, but why no mention about the in-game use of the shifters and how the buttons and dials work. And what do those buttons on the wheel base do, etc…
They do whatever you would like them to do. ;)
I have no reference for DD wheels, only used Logitech, but sure looks fun :D
I went from a TMX PRO (gear/belt hybrid) to this and I must say, it's a big upgrade, the immersion is so much better and you can buy a 3 in 1 set for under $1k.
i m not that into ACC, so i might go for this....by the time i get a wheel, they might fix everything
that steering wheel i bought month ago on aliexpress to upgrade my T300RS. Exactly the same one. Pretty sure it costs like 30 bucks without shipping costs. Tbf not a bad wheel but nothing to brag about
I'm watching your video and something strikes out at me. When you switched to ACC you lost your centering ffb. You could still feel the road affects i.e. curbs but nothing in the line of forcing the wheel back to center. Almost like it was only spring loaded. I have that same feel in ACC but on console when I switched to FANATEC from TM TS-XW wheel. I am thinking it is something with the games data output. I am no dev but odd that you got the exact same feel I do but you are on PC.
They are very decent!! I have their load cells so good!!
This looks fantastic. Yet, I must stick with Fanatec because of their console compatibility...
I was thinking the same thing. I'm on a Series X and PlayStation for now and must have that comparability with a Chronus Drive Hub. Great review as always Mike! God bless and race on 👍😎🏁
the DFU error is a windows 10 stupid driver missmatch. What it means by DFU is it puts the board in flash mode that allows it to write firmwares to it. You can down a piece of software from impulse RC that has a DFU fix.. try and see if it works.
Great video, great review as always. Only downside is that you mic is very close and your breathing was killing me.
I’m not even sure what to say
the quick release can be replace with any other one i have seen a video on it the wheel base looks sweet but 200 shipping killed it for me. i found it on ali express for 499 the base and wheel but its not there anymore
Where are you located?
Hello. I drive the cammus, and just ordered the FGT Elite. Did you have to drill the FGT mounting plate ?
Great question. I am only able to get two bolts into the base with my GT Elite plate. It worked out fine for me, but if you want it to be very stable you’ll need to drill two extra holes
@@SimRacing604 thanks for your quick answer
@@SimRacing604 I just saw your details about that around 9min
the G29 on ACC on ps5 is also numb on the straight, but great on the curb n stuff
the logitech wheels have a ffb deadzone in the center... it is just how they are made.
@@ralphbooger4756 the g29 works great on gran turismo, dirt series, dirt rally 2.0 and wrc10 tho... on pc it also works great with grid, project cars, assetto corsa and even ETS2
Can't watch the video yet, but I checked their website. The price is great, but they want to charge $200 to ship it to North Carolina. Kind of like when you find really cheap stuff on eBay.
Yeah, that doesn’t actually surprise me. It weighs as much as a Buick. But too bad, because it’s a smoking deal otherwise
There is a UA-camr, Douglas Thompson, who is now the US warehouse for Cammus. I purchase from him the set shown in this review for $780 total. Had the package in my hands 5 to 7 days later. He should still have units for sale. I really enjoy this wheelbase so far. I wanted a simicube 2 pro but didnt want to spend 2k on base and wheel. I thought I needed them 25nms but turns out, 15nm is too much for me. hahaha I'm not a small guy either (6' @ 235 lbs). I'll get their loadcell pedals next.
@@Hailstrom2003 yeah, I know Douglas! Great dude. This is good information, thanks. I’ll try and add a note to this video with a contact link for Douglas
@@SimRacing604 Great review btw! Looking forward to your next.😁
$280 shipped to California for the 3 piece 899 pkg :(
You should see if you can keep the horn, if your able to run the wires from that Quick Release to the back of that horn button you should have a horn... I put a Quick Release in my 87' Monte Carlo SS and wanted to keep the Horn so the QR I chose is similar to the one you got with this set up.
Thanks Mike. Interesting that ACC feels off, for me every sim feels decent except for ACC.
Yeah, I’d agree. I’m hoping to stumble across a forum with recommended ACC settings, but I haven’t yet
Maybe registry is conflicting with other wheels you are using in terms of not finding your wheel
Yes. I deleted all my old wheelbase registrys and it seems to add up to much less complications.
This is very nice
Interesting talk in china from some of my chinese suppliers, is this simply a cosmetic change rebranding of the Kickstarter failure Feel VR DD that had same price bracket in 2018, which no one received?
Now you roughly know, how much money Fanatec and all the other Manufacturers make.
Shipping must really vary widely! Says $200 shipping for me in the US. What's going on with that. I know it's heavy and such but that seems a little much. Where are there's coming from?
Dude it says $796.00 shipping to my house in Vegas🤣🤣🤣
@@TheAceman2619 🤣🤣 That's WILD!
@@TheAceman2619 shipping is $150 to Virginia -$45 (5%) discount. so $105 shipping
10:20 your description seems oddly similar to my experience with my Logitech G920 and the G-Hub software
Would you recommend this over the moza r9?
lol its an og xbox 360 power brick. i do with that cammus had a h pattern shifter in stead of only sequential.
It feels like it could power 20 XBOX systems, lol
If I'm ever going to upgrade from my logitech g29 to a thrustmaster or fanatic what wheel should I get? (Preferably thrustmaster because I'm poor.)
If you have the money, get a CSL DD or DD Pro, but the TM T248 is cheaper and really impressed me
t300rs gts are going cheap atm and are a good step up from the g29.
@@SimRacing604 You know where to get one ? Fanatec's site has been saying sold out for months
@@matos3000remixer check the used market, you might find one or two
csl dd only a bit more and 4x the quality of mid range thrustmaster
I know nothing about these but arent they just really nice game controllers? Please educate me but I think $500 for a controller that doesnt come with pedals and a bunch of software Is a Krazy price. Is this a budget model? I guess I wont be getting into the Sim side of the hobby. I could buy a full car for that, heck, I could build a car for $500. Wow, I was kind of expecting it to be less than $200
do you sell any of these dd's or do give aways for them
Do they at least include some sort of template should you need to drill out new holes on your rig?
Unfortunately no. It would be easy enough to create one with a sheet of paper I guess. But honestly I’m not sure I’d want to get into drilling a heavy guard steel plate anyway
@@SimRacing604 I just think if you make your own mounting pattern you should include a template because it makes one less thing the user gets wrong. That said, any new manufacturer would benefit from using a mounting pattern with a very popular and well supported existing product.
just 3d print an adapter.
ACC requires a touch more minimum ffb to feel the road.
I tried. I turned things way up, but still got nothing
@@SimRacing604 hmm. I used the in-game minimum force slider to get a tire resistance or road contact feel and also played around with steering scale to get some tire flex feel for ACC using a CSW 2.5. Prior to this ACC felt pretty muted in ffb regarding road contact feel compared to AC1 with CM settings very high gain.
@@winnythekahuna8073 what are your settings i have a csw 2.5 and i just cant make it work as it should
@@RedLine0069 Its not just the settings on the Fanalab. You will have to tweak the individual game's settings as well. Try playing with the scale of the wheel rotation and force intensity. I got AC to have as close as RL possible using CM extra gain and filter, scale and minimum force tweaks with nearly all default Fanalab settings. Then I base this to match my other games to replicate what I get from AC. AMS2 is not bad but needs a lot of trial and error plus it is inconsistent with brake feel settings across their cars. AMS2 has taken me the longest to work out and it can do it well but not as refined in their implementation compared to ACC or how the Kunos devs code.
So this or the moza combo?
Dang! $200 to ship to Texas?!
buttons on the wheel base? why??
Why not? Also what sim racer complains about more buttons? Lol
@@DouglasThompson real car guys that doesnt like ricer 💩
@@Ehren1337 do you think I'm not a real car guy? :)
Why why i visited the Website and the comlete Pack cost 900€ thats expensive Like fanatec
it deffo wins the award for the most fugly wheel and base
Using Default +??
800 dollars to ship to my house in Vegas, these people are out of their minds🤣🤣🤣
that leather wheel alone would cost $80 on eBay.
Only on sale due to no sales lol. And then the wheel base it self is way over sized and way over weight. Also a DD wheel base shouldn't need a fan. And last thing is the buttons on the actual wheel base are useless who wants to reach around a wheel to hit a button? Lol those buttons are a gimmick to get people to think they are getting extra for the money. Should of added more buttons to the actual wheel lol
It's a great base. Who cares about buttons when it's already cheaper and more powerful than the competition. ;)
Dose it work with PS5?
No. PC only
and here I am with only logitech and thrustmaster wheels available
Can you use it on xbox too?
Unfortunately no
@@SimRacing604 and why not?
Make the thumbnail 15Nm for just 500usd. You'll get more clicks.
New tech is always way overpriced. Once new tech has worn out the initial buying frenzy prices come back down to earth.
Bizarre that ACC, a game that many consider the benchmark for FFB is dead on the Cammus. I run my DD2 at 50% on ACC, so peaking at 12.5 nM and it's incredibly detailed and sharp - it's definitely the sweet spot for power range, but it seems like the Cammus software is just losing something in translation for you :/
I would say AC is typically the benchmark, I have heard acc ffb is not as good in many ways but they could have updated the ffb without me knowing as I don't play acc.
6:34 giggity
Gay much, or just a kid?
If it supported console I'd consider.
in my opinion if your going Direct Drive Route. Your probably serious about sim racing as it takes time to Set up and get the Details and most out of the Direct Drive . So most Racing titles and Direct Drives are not for Console. I believe one of the only is Fanatec who has to pay Licenses to get access to the Consoles Xbox and PlayStation.
The DD and Wheel cost more than a Console
@@darwinLee81283 or buy a CSL DD or gt DD bundle from fanatec. The same price as a console. Learn what you're talking about first
@@SIMRIG412 The CSL DD Pro GT bundle of $700 bucks,. play station is $700 bucks
I know what I. Talking about.
The pedals are Crap/ Fanatec sucks
And the tech your buying
Go sit down somewhere.
Go Buy a PC is my Point!!
Get the most from sim racing
@@darwinLee81283 I have a pc, but also have friends on ps5 and series x that i race against on other stuff, so a pc only wheel is not something I'll consider.
700 is bit higher price cos fanatec sells for same price wheel & dd1 base.500 for both i will buy
Where can you find a DD1 base for 500??
Not a dd1. It's the gt DD. Or CSL dd
@@SIMRIG412 ah, that makes sense. Thanks
@@SimRacing604 sorry i meant csl dd for 349 5nm
@@earthexplorer579 that's a LARGE difference in power lol. Not really a fair point.
I think you missed an opportunity to title this "This Price Doesn't Seem Wheel"
How would you like a writing job, David? 😂
@@SimRacing604 I'm too sarcastic and not politically correct enough to survive in todays environment.
Actually DD's are not thst expensive in the production its just marketing
me who wants to buy it only to play ETS2
Lol, 250AUD just for shipping the wheel and base to Australia... Get stuffed
Who?
I have to remember to not put links in my comments as youtube removes them. Anyways, Toyosim in Australia sells the Cammus line-up so no crazy shipping prices for you.
800 FOR A WHEEL no no no
I think your caps lock is stuck
Fuck PC. Shits way to expensive for normal people
alpha mini is better in everyway
How so?
@@SimRacing604 same price when you take into consideration the massive fee to ship cammus and alpha mini has far better force feedback details and software
@@mirshia5248 Have you done back to back comparison then?
@@mirshia5248 where are you located in the world?
@@DouglasThompson israel