Plywood shield vs broadsword, katana, axe, kriegsmesser, and war hammer
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2015
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Its measurements are authentic but the material of course is not (plywood instead of planks made of linden, fir, spruce or pine, and canvas instead of linen).
The weapons used in this test:
1.) Scottish basket hilt backsword by Hanwei
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2.) Ko katana (Dojo Pro line) by Ronin Katana
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3.) Shirasaya katana (traditionally forged differentially hardened blade)
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4.) Viking light axe by Sharp Blades
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5.) Two-handed Hungarian axe by Arms & Armor
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6.) War hammer by Arms & Armor (older model)
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Who doesn't like random acts of destruction, eh? :) The shield held up pretty well. The plywood seems to have a little more resistance against cuts than planks do. It's only a 3-ply board though, with the grain of two out of three layers running in the same direction. Even after repeated attacks it would have still offered pretty much the same protection.
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No, the two handed axe doesn't do much damage to the face of the shield. But the impact would sure be fealt by the person holding it.
Yeah the shield would be intact but after a few strong hits your arm could have broke
Depending on how you hold your shield and the type of shield, viking yes wrist and likely forearm broken as you hold the shield away in a fist, an english kite where the forearm rests against the back of the shield then unlikely if you pull the shield back as close to your bosy as possible to absorb the hit, hold it away from you and you likley wont break anything but your shoulder and/or elbow will be dislocated if the strike from a two handed axe or war hammer mace or greatsword hits well and directly.
you can just throw the pommel
P. De Rop still better than being whacked in the face with said axe.
Unless I'm a complete idiot and don't know what I'm talking about (not impossible) while that would work great on a wooden shield a leather shield would just cushion the impact.
I... think?
note to self. aim for the person, not the shield.
seems like a good idea
That's the idea.
Problem is getting past the shield
Well if you have a warhammer and youve trained like old medieval knights would have (conscripts, so the peasant ha gambeson and a spear, maybe a cheap arming sword and a wooden shield but more likely gambeson and spear) the strength behind the hammer even if it only cracked the wood, would cause significant pain, dislocation or breaks to the opposing person shield is a good target especially if you have your own to protect yourself and they have an arming sword not a hammer or mace XD
*M&B flashbacks*
It's quite a misconception that shields were made entirely out of metal. This was rarely the case and was mostly reserved for purely decoration shields. Even the Roman shields used in "turtle" formations were made predominantly out of glued layers of wood covered with leather. The misconception arose from the fact that there simply aren't many surviving combat shields (because wood rots away).
It makes total sense, wood is light and cheap, and when you are trying to maneuver what is essentially a large sheet around to protect yourself and deflect swings, the lighter the better. Metal shields were much tougher, sure, but it can't block shit if your opponent takes a swing at you and you don't have time to turn your shield to block it.
And as we can see here, wood was still a pretty solid material for shields. Even though thin and dense plywood was a late 17th century material, layered wood made with tougher woods was common in shield construction.
The Roman shields were made of wood covered by iron in fact
Tom Smith whilst they did have iron on them they weren’t covered. If you are talking about the early days when they used hoplons then you would be correct but the scutum was plywood and a bit of iron around the edge and in the centre.
Hoplite shields were made with wood planks, leather or hide and a layer of bronze. The classic Roman Scutum was made using planks of wood, covered in Canvas or lether with an iron or bronze boss and outer rim, depending what era it was.
Indian,knight & spartan shields were metal ones
@@Johnathan737 There were some indian shields made of steel but the vast majority were made of leather or wood, the steel ones were generally fancy ones owned by noblemen and probably saw more use as a display piece than as a tool of war, since they tended to be decorated with silver, gold and jewels. I have no idea where you heard that knights used steel shields, I mean some shields used by knights may have had a boss that was metal or a metal rim but I've never seen a source for a fully metallic shield. Spartan shields were also mainly made of wood, they were just covered with a very thin layer of bronze or copper to increase their defensive capabilities, and even those may be over-represented in the historical record because metal tends to last longer than wood or leather and this may have skewed the perception we have of the period by making our archaeological finds less representative of the reality.
So basically, whats shown in this video, any shitty shield is going to take a lot of hits before breaking apart
+de0509 Pretty much, though plywood is actually very strong. So it's mostly downhill from here(with wooden shit).
That's why shields are just so good
Yeah- a lot of people don't realize plywood is as strong as it gets for non-petrified wood, because it has no grain.
In the video it doesn't look like plywood though. Pretty sure it's particle board.
*M&B 84% difficulty huscarl horde PTSP intensifies*
Um, particle board doesn't splinter. It crumbles.
I think this really shows that the viability of destroying someone's shield in combat isn't as easy as you'd think
Tiberius Hrafn-Úlfur I completely agree
Unless you have A LOT of time
Strengh
And a opponent that doesn't really counter when you hit the shield...
I'd argue that shield hits are near irrelevant, if not more dangerous for the attacker (the bade getting stuck can be devastating)
Hitting it hard enough could hurt the arm behind from the percussion I guess but if you're weapon got stuck at all you could be in a lot of trouble.
nexviper good point, and a penetrating hit could (in theory) hit the arm, but really unless you do what the Romans did with the Pilum I'd say try not to hit shields xD
nexviper which is probably why the warhammer may have been the best option for that, as the shock of impact may be enough to temporary cause enough pain to the person's shield arm from using it effectively, while bladed and stabbing weapons probably do not have such force of impact.
Tiberius Hrafn-Úlfur hence the Roman pilum. It was thrown so as to stick in the shield, then bend, leaving the shield useless to its wearer so it had to be discarded.
I have a new found respect for Ikea furniture.
Fun fact IKEA furniture needed to be made from plywood because Vikings would constantly attack and liked to destroy furniture so IKEA made all their furniture viking resistant
Avoid hitting the shield
Axe spike was boss
They could at least use stronger word.
I think ikea is particle board not plywood. Big big difference
All I learned from this is that even a garbage shield is a good shield.
I feel that the katana is one of the most overestimated swords on earth.
+Sergio Milho
I agree.
+Skallagrim for me if I am up against an opponent with a shield I prefer a axe or a war hammer as you showed it to be extremely effective. Which weapon would you prefer?
***** Well I guess if it works for you.
And if you are more familiar with that weapon.
+Sergio Milho Since you didn't specify, I would prefer a modern British Centurion Tank.
Todorius Nice.
What melee weapon would you prefer?
0/10 did not end the shield rightly
how about we make a shield with pommels?
+Adrian Javellana So you can Block Them Rightly?
Should have rigged the thing with an explosive and did it outside so it looked like the pommel demolished it.
How 2 Basic needed.
He wanted to break it, not create a nuclear explosion on it.
If only Wooden Shields in RuneScape were this resistant to metal blades.
Ikr xD Wel in RS3 I have all the oldschool weapon/armour overrides so I love it. Plus I play RS2 and RS1 too
***** Woo Runescape Don't insult the mighty wooden shield though, works well with shield abilities :3
ikr
Derpenshire~4lif Bruh the current designs look sick
I love fantasy weapon designs even though in real life you'd be better off with a butter knife lol
Derpenshire~4lif Yeah I don't really care about realism in games at all. I agree about the Zammy Godsword though, I have one myself it looks so sick.
I think that people are a bit confused when they say that katanas were effective against armor... they weren't. I don't know if you got this from anime or some shit. I'm pretty sure they were just made to slice up flesh. As we can see in this video they are even kind of brittle. It's kind of a basic sword in my opinion and very over rated because of popular culture.
It was more rather a agility sword then destroy and cut.
The katana is not an agility sword. I don't know where people get that idea from. Perhaps they think the katana is lighter , but it really isn't. Even though it has no metal pommel nor a larger guard the blade is actually really really thick which is why even though it is smaller it isn't lighter.
+Muhamad Harith Akmal Abu Bakar That would be the rapier. A rapier is the ultimate agility sword.
A well made katana is not at all brittle, and does pretty well against wood. I'm not an expert by any means, but the katanas in the video don't look like folded steel. Head over to the csknives channel and check out the Cold Steel katanas, those are very high quality.
Jared Henson From the reviews I've seen, Cold Steel seems to be low quality. Their swords lack distal taper.
My katana was forged by a master Samurai Wizard using ancient techniques. It is made of magical steel, folded 10,000 times and tempered with the breath of a dragon. It could cut through that shield just by being dropped gently onto it. Desu.
Homini Lupus nani?
omai wa mo shineiru
Lemme use a Kriegsmesser on you
Good joke.
Nanio deska
note to self: troll all katana wielders with a wooden shield.
Jagr Melo katanas are not that extremely curved nor are they meant for thrusting, but whatever
Jagr Melo he is correct they are not meant for thrusting
okay I don't want to be a (insert insultive
term here) but the only sword I know that was curved for the sole purpose of getting around shields is the African Shotel, and that has a curve closer to 90 degrees, while Japanese swords average at a curve of 10 degrees, links! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotel
The only reason his katana didn't cut the building in half is because he's been spending too much time on the battlefield. He needs to kill more peasants with it in order to show its full potential.
Port Kapul God, that is an ugly sword.
En mis opiniones.
You should have thrown a pommel at it.
Since Skall ignores the katana jokes, we should make a lot of pommel throwing jokes now :D
ZorroDood yes throw thy pommel to end thou opponent's shield rightly!
ZorroDood Whoa! Whoa! Take it easy man! Skallagrim needs his testarea in one piece. Don't make him take risks!
csaba toth one mistake with a pommel and the whole building would be toast.
Fegelmast Who Is An Autistic Bagel Humper the sword is just an accessory. It helps to counterbalance the incredible weight of the pommel.
So, I noticed this. And this question above all else needs to be answered.
How does a shield fair against a Pommel throw?
Pommels would bounce or glance off.
2bingtim it wouldn’t bounce off bc shields can’t handle that much rightness so the pommel would go through the shield and it would end the enemy rightly
You'd need to step far back and go behind a blast shield. Of course machines would be used to toss it.
No contest. The pommel would go straight through, embed itself into the body, then explode, fly back to the user, and re-attach itself the the users weapon.
The shield would break rightly.
I see how it goes. You struck his shield - he cuts you up. Seriously, every time you weapon stuck, even for a brief moment, this is a death sentence. You can't stand in front of your opponent with extended arms struggling for your sword.
that's exactly one of the points of wooden shields I think,you opponent can't do a lot if he's stuck in your shield,if you don't take a year to react he's dead
Well no-one was holding the shield so he had to struggle, if someone was holding it you'd kick the shield and pull it out.
Well, their shields WERE meant to be disposable.
no they weren't
pumancat
Yes they were. When the shield gets damaged it becomes a terrific tool for disarming your opponent. Sure you want it to stay together for a long time, but a damaged shield is more useful in a melee.
If an enemy sword or axe cuts into your shield then you can just twist it and they would no-longer have a weapon unless they had super-human grip-strength. Being able to control the enemies weapons is extraordinarily important in a fight.
I've seen a lot of videos with kriegsmesser and grossmessers, and they are such ugly weapons, but so effective.
Sargon of Akkad But this one is beautiful!
Sargon of Akkad Well, I guess you can say that aesthetics isn't everything :D
Sargon of Akkad What the hell? Surprised to see you here.
Sargon of Akkad I find the Kriegsmesser actually pretty gorgeous ( at least Skall's model)
Sargon of Akkad Beauty is subjective, especially with objects. I quite like the sword's looks. :-P
surely the 2 handed axe is designed to go *over* the shield.
Devils Advocate surely that was not the point of the video
I think a lot of weapons used in periods where shields were prevalent were designed to go around not through. The Iberian Falcata and Greek Kopis come to mind. Or designed to negate the shield like the Roman Pilum. Where the long metal tip would penetrate the shield and bend forcing the shield to be discarded.
Devils Advocate While it can go over the shield, if the user keeps a minimum distance from the shield to his body, it can completely void the extra leverage. I think a Shotel is more specialized for that kind of attack.
Michael Fenton I always wondered why these weapons had such a seemingly impracical form.
Stipopedia Which ones ?
isnt the sword getting stuck a big advantage for the person with the shield?
Yes.
germanic tribes, the celts, vikings and both the vistrigoths and the ostrogoths.
Metal armour is very expensive, for a start.
The Romans designed the Pilum specifically to get stuck in shields so that they could render them useless. It obviously was a onetime use a weapon that is meant to be thrown, but if you have another weapon to switch to, then your sword getting stuck is just making the opponent's shield heavier and harder to use.
Japanese armor often had iron (and later steel) scales or plates, making it just as effective against the Katana as a lot of European armor would be. In an actual battle, Samurai would primarily fight with spears, while the Katana was usually a secondary weapon and would be more analogous to a modern military officer having a handgun. It could still be used against armored opponents (by going for gaps) but wouldn't be as effective as a spear.
Romans were geniuses using the pilum to counter the shield walls...
Maybe, but pila werent even in the video
Wonder who they stole the idea from, great adapters poor inventors.
Hyman O'Cohann Who invented pilum before the Romans?
@@emorynguyen1583 I think the etruscans or samnites
@@emorynguyen1583 probably the samnites, since the romans shaped their republican-style army after them to be able to defeat them
For those of you who don't know a katana isn't a main battlefield weapon it's a backup weapon at best. Sorry your glorious nippon steel won't cut through armor.
Brian Larson Ohh another thing before you go on about how great and superior the Japanese forging methods are with Blah folded over Blah billion times. The celts were doing that in 700 BC. At the height of the style they would fold it over several times like the japanese would and then they would twist it and hammer it flat resulting in Many more layers than an average katana. Why did they stop doing this? Simple. They found out how to make purer and stronger steel making pattern welding obsolete. So there you go some history for you. Europeans were doing what the japanese were doing in 1100 Ad and they were doing it nearly two Melania before
Brian Larson You are so wrong. If I trow my katana from here it is so sharp that it would fly around the world, go right trough you and come back the other way without even a scratch.
A long sword won't cut through armor either. Why do you think they had maces and hammers? Your information is accurate, but you're kinda being unfair. A steel blade going through armor wasn't gonna happen.
And it is a main battle field weapon. Along with spears, and bows.
My katana was folded -3 times.
Once again, when it comes to weaponry, the Germans come out on top :P
H. M. J. Stupid sexy Germans! >:(
H. M. J. Once again?
*****
The Mauser 98, the MP18, the Bf109, the Bismarck class battleship, the MG34, the Tiger tank, the StG44, the Me262, the Leopard tank and some stuff H&K makes today... all world's first of it's class, outperforming their counterparts and, oh so German :}
So, considering the Kriegsmesser - a German sword - outperformed the other blades in this test, I'd say it *once again* proves good ol' Jerry knows a thing or two about designing weapons.
Also, can't you tell I'm a total German fanboy? :Đ
H. M. J. But let's not talk about the G36... :P
H. M. J. Bismarck clearly wasn't the best just compare it with Yamato.
B-b-but muh glorious nippon steel would have surely cleaved though plywood...
Jack Ryan Not those 400 bucks piece of shit katanas. Try a 2 3k one.
Jack Ryan you ain't got throwable pommels your steel cant do shit
I was just about to type the same comment. Good play sir!
tfw no name dude. Come the fuck on. I've handled a fucking laser sharpened katana, they don't cut through plywood.
This sword is stronger than the katanas of the time they were used. I bet they would have broken.
Now you just need FLEX SEAL to repar the damage
That is a beautiful warhammer.
I showed my friend this video and he was unimpressed... (He plays a lot of skyrim) :/
Have you looked at the United cutlery m48 war hammer
@@harveyrouen4655 Skyrim arguably has the worst warhammers. ESO has some *actual* hammers.
i think all the comments in this video miss the fact that is FUCKING PLYWOOD
people have this idea that plywood is something bad since we have furniture made with it and is old as the romans... guess what? is not. plywood is pretty much one of the best materials available even today when comes to strength/weight ratio. it was less than 100 years ago when things that plastics, fiberglass, carbon fiber and etc started to challenge plywood
+khhnator ply wood is amazing but incredibly bad when you add water think the strenght comes from the way in witch the wood is layerd with the grains between sheets being layed perpendicular to one another
Perhaps they mistake it for drywall.
plywood is relatively new, it wasn't around with the Romans
louis monkeybusiness swanepoel you could keep it clothed up...
Plywood is new, but veneer is not, and neither is layered/weaved veneer. This is similar in many ways with what we may call 'plywood' these days. Ancient romans did use wood veneer, but the civilization that really mastered the art were egyptians, who did not have wood to spare. You should look into it, quite interesting.
Im pleasantly surprised just how effective this shield was to the point where im thinking now how strange it would be to not take a shield with you into battle, back then given how much defensive capabilities, A two handed weapon seems almost useless.
Two-handed weapons started to be more common when better armor started to be manufactured and shields started to get smaller as armor advanced.
Renan Boti Yeh im talking about the times when wooden shields were very common.
Until the end of the dark ages shields where the be all end all in Europe, armor wasn't effective against arrows and you coundn't rely only in armor to defend yourself from axes, swords and spears.
A lot of cultures used shield and spear/sword formations so its easy to see that was effective.
Renan Boti yeh that's what i said its a wonder why anyone would go without a shield...
Why use a shield when you can wield two claymores and a katana on the mouth?
Here's a suggestion for you, make a shield that has two layers of wood with the grains crossing either way, so no matter which way it's struck it'll still be against grain.
Might be pretty heavily, perhaps even too bulky. Worth experimenting with though.
How would that be different from this? This one is made from plywood, which is pretty much what you describe.
Roland Lee no, it would be different. The best cuts go with the grain. This way, it is physically impossible to go with the grain, because it’s in two different directions.
And plywood is made from layers of wood with alternating directions of grain glued together. So no matter how you cut it - youll be against the grain on at least some layers - which is what the original post suggested one should do with two layers of wood. So what is the "no" about? "No" as in multiple layers of wood with perpendicular grain glued together is different from multiple layers of wood with perpendicular grain glued together?
Roland Lee, I have since forgotten what I was up tight about, so I apologise for being that way and probably sounding condescending. I think we basically said the same thing in those last two comments, so I might also have misunderstood your original comment.
Such a stark difference with movie shields, that are usually almost useless lol
Not only are they useless, they use them wrong a lot of the time. "I'm going to spin around and put my soft fleshy body out for you to cut instead of this solid object to block/deflect your strikes. I great warrior" :P
Yeah it was especially egregious in The Hobbit war scenes
To summarize: Most weapons don't do a lot of damage to the shield, swords (especially lighter ones) faring particularly badly, but when it got broken enough things really went downhill fast. Accurate?
Timothy McLean Pretty much.
Timothy McLean Well anything that would do a lot of dmg to a shield would be unwieldy for everything else, until the rifle appears obviously.
Timothy McLean Yeah...unless you are a Nazghul XD
Timothy McLean Also, focused blunt weapons do the most damage the fastest, and don't get stuck.
Honestly, getting your blade deeply stuck in a wooden shield like shown in a video would likely very quickly lead to death.
Timothy McLean standard procedure for dealing with a shielded opponent seems to be to just get around it, greek swords curve over them, vikings like axes that have the reach and a dropped blade to get around it, even the roman pilum was intended to just get stuck in them and make the shield weighted and unwieldy to the point of just getting ditched. Shields are a right pain in the dick.
Weeaboo: "A katana would cut through a armour plate like butter"
me: > This video
It is said in anime that in order to cut through things like butter you need to fill the sword with sword intent or ki, which sadly doesn't exist in reality
@@miso-ge1gz habolulu, habajaba, haku haku, i would rather just throw a + and - stick welding cables at a man in steel armour
That's not a real Katana, though. I have a Katana from the Edo period that was folded over 7 billion times and can cut through any metal on Earth. If it was bigger, I could cut through the Earth itself with it. It was forged with ten thousand generations of Japanese Warrior souls and was used to kill a demigod and his demons during the 2nd Mongolian invasion of Japan. Your armor is no match for it.
It's confirmed, everyone on Skall's channel needs to treat the kriegmesser as weebs do the katana
Blazii Clan yesssss
Messer beat katana.
1. Half swording is an option.
2. One hand and 2 hand different varieties.
3. Same length as the katana.
4. An actual guard.
His kreigsmesser is a $1700 sword. It's going to be impressive bc it's of superior quality not bc kreigsmessers are God tier swords
@@Huy-G-Le "half swording is an option"? you don't use the messer to thrust, you use it to cut
@@terner1234 I think he meant murder stroke.
you mean the glorious nippon steal of the katana did not cut trough a nail.... how is this witchcraft possible
Samuel Normand It's ok, the nail was made from a katana.
Samuel Normand trolling got wrong this swords are modern muku blades. The steel has nothing to do with histrorical accurate steel AND the heat treatment is most probably total different. ;)
iopklmification sooo, it was a KATANAIL?
Benjamin Brohmer
Yeah, the steel and heat treat are both better with modern swords.
Fuq Gooogle
the average modern steel is cleaner as the accurate steel in average, yes.
But they are muku-blades made from one kind of steel most katana blades were made from at least 2 types of steel. The physical charakteristics in shiro-zukuri blades were basicly designed by the smith as the edge the flats the back and the core were made from different steel.
(A useable shiro-zukuri blade would at lest cost 600/800 bucks.)
The different heat threat brings different charakteristics. eg a stiff blade, like the authentic japanease blades would basicly ignore a gambenson or a padded jack, the edge flexile blade on the otherhand would become disaligned and would have a harder time to cut through it.
You also have always a slight disalignment while cutting even in the air, this effect is larger in flexile blades and smaller in stiff blades.
You can't aplay better when comparing different things.
It would be very interesting to see how a shield made of two layers of plywood with the grains perpendicular would hold up.
+0cheeseburga Plywood is already multiple layers of wood with their grains are perpendicular. The lawyers are glued together. This is why plywood is stronger than regular wood to begin with and why it doesn't split -- it has no grain lines. 1/4" and 3/8" plywood has a minimum of three layers. 1/2" and thicker has four. Plywood already has layers. There is also a minimum thickness at which the lawyers can be before they loose strength.
+BW022 I know you meant to say "layers" but I couldn't help but imagine lawyers glued together to form a shield. Amuzing sight, not so effective though.
+BW022
So Ogres are like plywood?
+The Deer No, ogres are like onions. But only the ogres who don't want to eat your face.
GeorgeMonet
Ogres have layers and are very strong! Plywood has layers and is also very strong!
Ogres are like Onions!
Watching this video almost three years later, but only really discovered your videos in the last few months.
I don't know if this was intentional on your part at the time, but the fact that you left the shield standing in a non-rigid manner allowed it to function, more or less, the way it would in a battle. It took so many hits to break it down, and it was a really good testament to the effectiveness of the shield, even taking into consideration that you were using a-historic material.
... Wowie. You can never underestimate an wooden shield! o.o
It can take more abuse than i thought it could!
I enjoyed this, also Kara's (spelling?) scream of amusement killed me.
Cara is, I believe, how you spell it.
Athalia rip
A pommel would shatter that shield into sawdust in one hit.
It'd punch a hole through the shield, the person holding it, and the line of soldiers behind them, ending the battle rightly.
with movie and tv stuff, i didnt think wood shields would actually hold up for so many attacks. this was very informative
Hitting things with swords/hammers/axes is fun. Watching you hit stuff was also fun. So, thanks for the video and keep up the great work!
No shields were harmed in the making of the video...
YEAH RIGHT
German steel master race.
Viper Joe Except, that is American Steel :)
LaughingOwlKiller do you want to link me the information, where Albion gets their steel? Because I don't know, where they get the steel from, but would noct be surprised if it would come from a more or less exploitet country.
Viper Joe Ye Old German engineering lmao
Viper Joe
Where does it come from? Our mines in the top of the world
***** An American industrialized steel. Before Carnegie came along it was a curiosity to most people because of how expensive it was.
Very interesting video. I was amazed by the difference the center grip made.The canvas-over-wood kind of reminds me of how a polymer net can reinforce a brick wall. The hard wood fibers are held together by the flexible canvas after repeated impacts. Very cool.
Love the simplicity of the big knife like that broad it's pretty nice
AND YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THE REAVER CLEAVER!? :P
salamut2202 he probably shot it to pieces like he did the first
But it had a no bullet sign
JsinXx not even funny
salamut2202 im guessing because the reaver cleaver never did went up against this kinds of shields , if any kind at all
salamut2202 Shiny!
Bu..buh..but Katana best sword folded over 100,000,000 times!
Filthy gaijin.
But a katana doesn't have a pommel, so you can't end your opponent rightly.
adobo777 This test proved that the deadliest weapon is a Home Depot forged nail. To damage a katana that nail most have been bathed in dragon´s blood and the tears of a thousand virgin geishas otherwise it would have been pulverized by all the power of nippon steel. ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY NAIL!
adobo777 The strongest were folded Zero times. Cut wing off strongest american birds no problem comrade.
The reason kata as were folded is because the iron used was extremely shitty, so if a blade needed 1million folds you were basically using a giant block of slag...
This nail must have been folded at least 1.000.000 times.
I have to say, the more I see that Kriegsmesser in action the more I want one for collection. I was quite shocked at how well it held up in your tests against hard wood and other impacts, but you can see just how well balanced it is on impact with the locations of the vibration nodes which seemed to me like it gave very little shock to the hands. I just hope Albion doesn't stop making them before I can get around to getting one at the end of the year.
Skall, seeing your wife behind the shield with a grin on her face warmed my heart. I'm so glad that you found someone who shares your interests and whom you love.
"Most OP sword" Gets stopped by a nail xD :P
mortal kombat Otaku The nail was it's cousin....they were made from the same iron nugget...so it went easy on him ;)
mortal kombat Otaku Adamantium nail OP, please nerf.
mortal kombat Otaku nail was reforged 1000 times for that ofc!
+mortal kombat Otaku Most OP? More like most overrated...
If he used an actual Katana, the shield clearly would have exploded into a million little splinters.
and then everyone would die
Julius Cheeser what's worse these katana jokes or chuck Norris jokes? Both are not even funny.
They're not all supposed to be funny per se. It's more just fucking with Katana cultists and COD pussies.
Julius Cheeser Ah thanks for explaining, have a great day sir. (lol)
My katana is folded -3 times.
***** Or they might be protecting their virginity with a katana. So which now?
Awesome video! Thank you. Also, an impressive assortment of weaponry :) The war hammer is my favorite out of all these!
I'm so happy there were axes in this video!! :D
Random act of destruction? Sure I enjoyed it.
"Kriegsmesser" german = "warknife" english
Cthight Just picturing a bunch of Germans in pointy hats rushing the enemy with ornamented butterknives.
Robber: I've got a knife
German: Thats not a knife
**Draws Kriegsmesser**
German: _This_ is a knife
WOW very educational, even though it's plywood it survived a full day of testing and the shield user is able to manipulate caught blades!
thank u as always for supplying realistic data!!
I love the way you say "Kriegsmesser". It´s like "Kraigsmessar"! :D
Keep up your good work! I´d say that i will show your videos to my kids, since you´re very informative and professional.
Epic destruction test !!! :)) R.I.P. Shield
Sharp Blades Spiked axe did pretty well.
Eric Taysom Right ? :P Maybe should Skall try to throw it :)) Cara is brave women :D
+Sharp Blades I wonder what type of wood the shield is made out of and if maple would do better. Maple is very resistant to splitting and maple plywood is a preferred material for making skateboards.
Rest in .Pieces
the kriegsmesser is so elegant, it`s beautiful af
I love how you say "destruction" in the intro. Despite not seeing your face, I can see you having having a devious smirk as you say the word with sadistic pleasure! You truly must have been a Viking raider in another life. ;)
Thank you for the video and you gave me a lot to think about swords
Thats is why I use shields in my RPGS. Enemy like: " I have a deadly katana!" Me: "I have shield" Enemy: " :-( "
Shields in most RPG's are treated like counterweights, swinging them carelessly about whilst you flail your weapon in the general direction of your enemy.
Plywood is layered with several layers of wood, so the grain goes every which way.
Nice to know a plywood shield is that effective. My "barn door" shield is edged with heavy pigskin, but that won't protect the shield. When you were attacking that shield, my first thought was that a weapon lodged in your opponent's shield is a VERY bad thing! Also, my first thought with the axes and war hammer was to pull the shield out of the way; not so easy in single combat, but in a battle formation, that can allow a pole weapon or spearman in the rear ranks an opening.
And the Kriegschmeisser is awesome!
Thanks for this video, this actually shows me that when I’m making my Viking shields to make them have two layers going opposite directions with the grain. Really makes them stronger and harder to destroy
Your wife is one brave lady. Also great form, this is why I watch you.
Pls get Cara some safety goggles for this kind of thing, there were splinters of wood flying around at her eye level that could have gone around her glasses.
HebaruSan
Cara was actually further away then it looks in the video.
Very nicely done. A great show of why the armies of the world for millennia have used wooden shields. Not only are they inexpensive to produce, they are exceptionally resilient for their cost.
Really Fun to watch
It hold on more than i spect from a scrap wood shield
"THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!"
The reason that people are probably obsessed with the Katana is imprinting. Baby ducks will follow the first creature they see. When this is the mother duck - all is well. But sometimes they imprint on a random person and then they follow that person around endlessly. These Katana fan-boys probably saw their first movie sword fight movie in ' Yojimbo' or 'Sanjuro' . But I'm older. I was deeply effected by my first sword and shield film ' Black Shield of Falsworth'. I imprinted on Tony Curtis rather than Toshiro Mifune.
+Patrick Boyle BTW the shields in "Black Shield of Falworth' as well as 'Ivanhoe'. Are not very authentic. They are two or more layer of sheet steel in 'Black Shield' and only one layer in 'Ivanhoe'. They do have the advantage that they sound great when struck. Swish - klang!
+Patrick Boyle
Warhammers or Rapiers, on the one hand you got punch and on the other dexterity.
Woah, sorry Lorenz
+Patrick Boyle maybe but as someone who has been fortunate enough to examine several pieces i have to say a thing of beuty mate the devotion to detail even on a battle sword (term i use for katana's produced during time's of war generally excluding the WW's) its kinda like full plate armour the power of the katana lies not in the sword but what it represents it was the symbol of the samurai a warrior who much like a knight was bound by a code...
louis monkeybusiness swanepoel Yes the katana does indeed represent the whole Tukugawa period but that was a very dark period in world history.
In that roughly 250 year period Japan rejected progress and cut itself off from the rest of the world. It was a perfect tyranny. They had had firearms but they rejected firearms. They also tore up roads and tore down bridges. They gave up riding and most vehicles.
The katana was a tool for killing unarmed peasants in this period. By the fifth Tokugawa shogun dueling had also been outlawed. The final Samurai just before the Meiji restoration were merely expensive social parasites.
I would love to see a video about war hammers. I know you have one with it and the mace, but I was hoping maybe you could show more about the war hammer, it's advantages and disadvantages and the different variations of war hammers.
Tis calms my nerves, thank you, you're the man
I suppose the lesson is that shields work.
Cara in the background holding the shield like (._.)
that looks like so much fun
This is why it was a good idea to reinforce the shield with an iron rim and a plate where the hand holds it along with protecting the grip's attachment to the shield. Also, iron band across it would be a good idea too.
You're brilliant having her hold that for you...
the kriegsmesser is a beautiful sword.
Really interesting ! I love this type of historical research ! :)
Now I wonder how an umbo would have changed the resistance of the shield. Anyway, thank you for this great work, we learn a lot about the weapons inertia !
Wow I really expected the two handed ax to tear the shield up with ease! This was incredibly fascinating to watch, especially as an amateur weapon smith
I just love the looks on Kriegsmesser, just a question, where did you get yours?
+GT Wolf
From KoA. ww4.aitsafe.com/go.htm?go=kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANE3&afid=28632&tm=14&im=1
+Skallagrim Thank you for very quick response.
Great video, Skall! I wanted to point out that plywood does not have a grain like you know regular wood does. Plywood is engineered wood that has layers of wood with their grains rotated around 90° to eachother. It's sort of a criss-cross grain where one layer goes --- and the other goes |.
IceCreamJimmies
I just remembered that it was only 3 layers, and the grain in 2 out of 3 runs in the same direction.
Realy good video. A simple made softwood shield like this proofs itself very very worth. I think I just made my mind that one handed and shield is quite a better option than two handed weapons. Never tought a pine wood shield would survive so good in such hard punishment like this. Also, being beaten in your arm, your arm mobility will reduce the impacts, making it to get less damage. Just imagine how strong was a legit medieval hardwood, metal canvas covered shield. It easily holds longer than the warrior's stamina. Awesome!
What's more interesting for me is watching skal figure out how he's supposed to hold the shield
I'm asking because I don't know: I can understand why a one-handed sword would not cut though wood well, but Katanas were the sword of choice for fighting against armoured Samurai. Is it possible that its lack of performance was due to less than optimal usage?
Francis Roy Possibly. Always keep in mind that this is pretty much a cutting test for "this katana" and "this kriegmesser" not necessarily ALL katana and ALL kriegmesser. We can extrapolate from the findings, but it is not "proof" of anything.
Francis Roy In battle Samurai used spears and polearms ,the katana was a backup weapon.And cutting through actual heavy japanese armor(made from iron and later steel)is not really possible.You try to hit the unarmored parts.
Francis Roy Katana were good for the local needs of the land of their origin, having only to deal with foes with light armor or overly flowery lamellar armor that folded like so much origami when not worn on a body. Outside of that, however, not so much.
Samurai didn't use katanas for shields at all. They used maces.
Katana were only good for slicing through unarmored or lightly armored foes, not any sort of _"real"_ armor.
Francis Roy There is always so much to learn about the world, isn't there?
Francis Roy Yeah, most of the armor was either leather or a combination of leather and metal, normally lamellar armor.
Would have been cool to make a plywood shield vs crossbow video :)
Tested it, can say for certain that after a specific draw weight (not a huge amount), the bolt just goes through the shield like asian food through my colon
@@stopsign1626 That's an amazing analogy xD
Nice Video Skallagrmim. I'd Love to see you do another Shield test, but with ranged Weapons such as Longbow,crossbow, Javelins, Francisca (throwing axe), sling.
i think the take home point of this shield is that it was extremely effective. even thought the weapons cut into the shield, they never went far enough to do any real damage and at the same time the weapon then became lodged within the shield leaving them open for attack.
you completely missed the opportunity to make a bad pun at the end. should have said "these random axe of destruction."
It might be worth using two thin pieces of plywood places in opposite directions grain wise glued together to give a stronger shield. If you wanted it to last a long time covering the front with a kevlar sheet would help
Va as sorry but plywood is by definition two or more planes of wood glued with grain in opposite (perpendicular actually, but i am pretty sure this is what you meant) directions.
Va as Plywood is already multilayered with layers having grains turned ninety degrees. I think Skall messed up slightly, looking only at the topmost (bottommost?) layer there.
Thanks for tipping me about kult of athena I´ve been looking for a sword site for ages and the first I saw a sword that costs less than half the price of the same sword on another site!
(and btw I liked the falchion best)
I have a newfound respect for plywood and shield now.
Axes are so amazing. I really want to get one soon but I don't know some good companies to buy one from.
Yeenosaur I’m still looking for good axes.
How well would a thrown pommel work against this shield?
It would be akin to watching a ballistic missile tear through a centimeter thick sheet of melted butter.
Wow...I really did not expect it to hold for that long. Maybe I should build and keep around one of those, just in case.
Love your videos brother. Thought I had subscribed a long time ago,apparently not, I have now though. Keep up the good work!
But according to these otaku nerds katanas are supposed to be able to cut a shield in half with just one swing.
Katanas are supposed to be used against flesh, anyone who says they are effective against armors or shield are simply ignorant of the facts
The Japanese dont use shields because Katana's would cut them clean in half. Obviously, duh.
Roland Lee the arms holding the shields yes.
Katanas wouldn’t be able to cut a wooden shield from the face
And a clean cut in one side only do a very few damage
Katanas and the variations are overrated, there are good swords but there are better swords
i thought once you took a katana out of its holder thing it has to draw blood or it cannot be sheathed?
no that is not the case they are drawn for cleaning and ritual ceremonies all the time, the myth you are talking about is associated with the Kukri and the gurkha fighting regiment of the british army, and a stupid officer asking about if the weapon worked and then embellishing the story
@RSh-12 **scottish black cyclop screaming**
love that war hammer damage . Good to see it getting some publicity , probably in my top five favorite medieval weapons maybe even of all time . Knightly demolition .
Interesting video, thanks for making it.
I imagine that in battle getting your weapon stuck in your opponent's shield would be a big problem. While it is stuck you are effectively disarmed, and they can strike at you until you free it. That would probably make people a bit hesitant to strike at a shield's edge full force. Also a shield in someone's hand probably has a bit more give than one sitting on the floor, so impacts wouldn't transmit the force of a blow as efficiently.