With Power Armor and Vertibirds being the main symbol of "vehicle" power in the franchise for so long, it would be interesting to see a future faction using other military equipment in limited numbers (tanks/fighters).
I'd like to play Fallout right after bombs fell, seeing the army transition into brotherhood of steel or even enclave. The setting itself is tense, not to mention all the drama, war, trade, alliances, story's of the groups and individuals can be told... Not to mention having traveled to Asia or Pacific in fallout universe
@@TheJMBon wouldn't really fit the 50s america aesthetic that fallout uses. Metro already exists for a Russian perspective on what it may be like. I doubt fallout is leaving america anytime soon is all I'm saying
@@UnholyWrath3277 that's a very good point, but you've got to admit having a glimpse into China after the war as perhaps the child of an American operative on the ground at the time would be at the very least an interesting perspective
Realistically speaking there should be dozens upon dozens of remnant groups of varying sizes and affiliations after the war, not just the enclave or brotherhood. There’s countless bases across the nation and the world, and there should be military outpost holdouts as one possibility. There could’ve been many other factions with different goals than the Brotherhood and enclave depending on the region or even having national cohesion. I would compare this to the collapse of the Russian empire during the First World War, where the military fractures among political lines and each have their own goals and plans.
We have that hold out group of Chinese ghouls in DC, stands to reason there would be similar US holdouts that never linked up with the Enclave when they retreated to secure facilities.
You know, its almost too bad there weren't Enclave Remnants in Fallout 4. Nate is probably one of the few they'd accept on and it would give more onfo on them.
I mean, the enclave has been done in by a fallout protagonist twice now, and if Bethesda is already milking the BOS I think Id prefers they at least let enclave rest. Although… it would be pretty cool to see how they interact with the institute. Damn. Maybe I do want the enclave
I am an apiary [honeybees] biologist. I think I remember Deathclaws being mostly genetically modified iguanas, if so then the following may answer the question on the "intelligent genes" heredity. The answer about death claw intelligence may not actually be in the sex chromosomes at all. Consider that Iguanas can have a range of chromosomes depending on the species. Either being n28 or n36. Which means an n28 female and an n36 male can have cross breading, resulting in... a range of interesting outcomes. Then consider that some extremely rare cases have been studied of the female iguana having a different number of haploid chromosomes than their same species male counterparts. I think it's the last part which may answer the question of intelligent deathclaws. It may be that the females have an additional chromosome or lack a chromosome which in some way inhibits the turning on/off of the alleles that the "Intelligent gene" would provide. It may also be that the Female and male Deathclaws are two separate species with varying numbers of chromosomes even among siblings. This may also explain how we see a massive range of Deathclaw adaptations in just a few hundred years. (We know Deathclaws are prewar and have resistance to FEV and Radiation, so this alone does not explain such adaptations.) I hope this was helpful. If you want further explanation, then please feel free to comment. [EDIT: Turns out they are mostly GMO Chameleons. However this does not change the theory. Read my reply to Frank Horrigan for more detail.]
Wow. You just blew my mind. Now I have to replace a fuse, thank you very much. In all seriousness, that's an impressive theory on deathclaw evolution. I will have to disagree on one thing. I'm pretty sure in Fallout 3, it was in Enclave research that deathclaws were mutated from the Jackson's Chameleon.
@@frankhorrigan2047 Well Chameleons are near the top of the reptile "strangeness" I was talking about. So "Jackson's Chameleon" or Trioceros jacksonii does not have an identified sex chromosome system according to the 2018 Journal of Evolutionary Biology Volume 31, Issue 4, P. 484-490. Which is actually the case with all but 4 species of chameleons. So far, only 1 has XX-XY sex chromosomes. And the other 3 having female heterogamety ZZ-ZW systems. And one being identified as temperature-dependent (TSD). However. Chameleons and Iguanas both share key components in common, in terms of the theory I put out. Both have species with chromosomal complement differences. Such is the case with the south African chameleon, Bradypodion ventrale, which had differed between sexes (2n = 34 in males and 35 in females). This means the reason nearly all intelligent deathclaws are male, may be because the females have an extra chromosome that is inhibiting the alleles of the "intelligent gene(s)". They also share a similarity in regards to having a range of chromosomes within the same Genus. Trioceros, the genus that contains "Jackson's Chameleon", have a (2n) range of 24-36. So thankfully, the basics of the theory do not change.
I can imagine, just based on it being a sniper, that units deployed to the Gobi Desert may have been special operations to foster insurgency in an occupied area and/or to help disrupt trade and resource movements between the Soviet Union and China.
I agree with you that I always assumed that the Gobi Campaign was a separate, earlier incident than the Sino-American war, because it seems really bizarre for the US to attack that area of China and it would be unclear how they would have access without cooperation from the USSR
Historical fact. Mongolia was going to be dissolved but becuse China basicle did a fuck you to Russia, Russia kept Mongolia as Mongolia as a buffer zone. And China annexing Mongolia would go against said buffer zone treaty, meaning. War. So Russia would be an Allie to America, but they would not admit it.:4
Fate of US military and individual units/members can provide plenty of material for several Fallout games. Though as someone being more interested in gadgets I would like to see more of various military hardware. IRL militaries operate dozens of vehicles of various specialties, often in few variations and so so far we've got very little taste of that.
And I know for a fact that somewhere, out there in the Fallout America there's still some super top secret experimental technology yet to be uncovered. The blueprints to pre war vehicles and the someone or something with the knowledge to make them. Imagine a faction with an active APC or Tank or some other crazy vehicle. Nuclear fusion VTOL idk 😂 So much of America (which includes annexes) that hasn't been covered, so many games, so much potential.
Well, from what we know NCR has sizable vehicle pool working alongside with operating railway engines. Shame that it wasn't properly shown in NV as having ability to do that is a game changer when it comes to waging war, both IRL and in Fallout world.
You forgot Camp Navarro (Poseidon Energy Oil Refinery turned military base and jumping off point to the Mainland for Enclave Forces) when you listed active Enclave Installations. Also, through ED-E in New Vegas, we learn that the Enclave has Outposts in Chicago as well. Also there is the Vertibird Refueling Station near Jacobstown as well (though it is minor.)
Also Vault 79 was not guarded by Army Security Forces, but the Secret Service, which is a seperate Government Agency and has not much to do with the US Military, instead, they are probably under the Department of the Treasury in Fallout.
I always wondered what happened to all the Aircraft carriers, Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Frigates and Submarines in the US Navy. Something like 310 ships of different class exists now, who knows how many there would have been by 2077. I know there's Rivet city and a sub or two and not all would be on deployment but that doesn't explain all of them. I wonder if the is a third post war paramilitary organization that are the remnants of the US Navy that exist out there somewhere.
They were prob in or around the CHINA theater and Alaska at the time. With the minimum needed on the USA coasts to protect them. That is also how so many Chinese subs were able to get into strike positions. Like hos the shi set up a colony in California. I imagine there was prob similar colonies of USA navy and forces in the ruins of china.
God could you imagine any of the navy that was out in the middle of the ocean when the bombs dropped? And any long term survivors in the ocean? *I would not like to be out in the ocean post war that's for sure* Not sure how long it took for ghoul whales to come about but who knows what monsters roam the oceans....
I wondered the same thing. If the ships were nuclear powered then there’s a chance they could try and make it back to the U.S., but supplies and perhaps navigation could make a return almost impossible. It would be pretty cool though if there was a raiding/pirate faction of old warships that moves along the coast and pillages any settlements they find. Some sort of wasteland Vikings.
I'd love to see a realistic game say, 35 to 40y after the bombs fell. The military has lots of underground bases, many being virtually resistant to radiation and nukes. The first generation of surviving generals and such could die off, with their children having replaced them. It'd need more tech and stuff like working cars, APCs, etc. You might even find an Aircraft Carrier that can't move and have the chance to repair it to a state of limited mobility.
That sucks that people we’re leaving (I’m assuming) gross comments about your wife. Sorry that you guys had to deal with that. I thought RadQueen was a lovely addition to your content & look forward to the day she decides to join in on another video, if she ever does. Which, after the kind of experience it sounds like you guys had with the comments in the last video, I wouldn’t blame her if she doesn’t want to be in another video. Hope you guys have a great weekend & can’t wait for your next video! This one was great!
What's up with everybody typing "we're?" Heads up - you're still incorrect. You mean to say: "That sucks that people WERE leaving..." You do NOT mean to say: "That sucks that people WE ARE leaving..."
WELCOME TO CAMP NARRVO YOU MUST BE THE NEW REPLACEMENT YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLIDER WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST A VERY EXPENSIVE MK COMBAT ARMOR YOU WILL STAY IN THIS MANS ARMY UNTIL YOU ARE 510 YEARS OLD THAT IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS YOU WILL BE IN THIS MANS ARMY
I'm loving the content so far. In keeping with the "Atom's faithful" vibe, it'd be pretty cool to see a video on the various religions and cults that have popped up post war.
I would add that, as a soldier in the National Guard, the National Guard isn’t a branch of the military. It’s a reserve component of the Army and Air Force (Army National Guard and Air National Guard). The National Guard simply belongs to those two branches, from which, the state is allowed to use for domestic missions.
@@ThatOliveMrT Right, I was implying that when I said, “reserve component of Army and Air Force”. The Army National Guard belongs to the Army. Air National Guard belongs to the Air Force. They ultimately answer to the Army and Air Force and serve on their federal missions. Which doesn’t need an emergency. The National Guard deploys to the same places and at the same frequency as the Active Duty Army and Air Force.
@@ThatOliveMrT The situation doesn’t have to be fucked at all for National Guard to be deployed overseas. GWOT changed that. Since GWOT, the National Guard has been all over the place.
The Gobi desert irl has a lot of uranium coal and oil. China does have a portion of the Gobi desert in their borders and have some extraction projects in the desert that are currently ongoing. That would explain why the us army would invade. It's also possible that Chinese/us forces could have fought proxy wars in Mongolia
Or the Gobi Campaign could hint at the Soviets getting involved in the last part of the war; by the Great War relations between the US and USSR had improved significantly, and Mongolia being a former Soviet puppet state that China wanted to control would destabilize relations between the two countries to the point of the Soviets using the American invasion of China as an opportunity to gain territory and resources from them.
Mongolia was a communist country and a very firm ally to the USSR during the 20th century. I doubt there would be proxy wars in a land-locked communist state surrounded by other communist states.
Just thought of it. Unlot of untapped resources and Mongolia doesn't utilize much of it. A Chinese annexation of Mongolia would make strategic sense in the timeline.
One reason, completely speculative, why Hong Kong might not have been mentioned as a US target - Who said in the Fallout universe that the UK ever gave it back? I mean we don't know much about how close the Commonwealth was (with the only references to the UK's geo-politics being that it was part of the European Commonwealth, which sounded like a more integrated EU, along retaining a separate military). It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the Fallout equivalent of our words Commonwealth is a much closer union, potentially meaning Hong Kong remained outside of CCP hands... just a theory.
The UK died with eroupe and the middle east in the resource wars before China and the USA went to war safe to say they didn't run Hong Kong during the great war given they'd already colapsed
Regarding the skirmishing going on the Philippines, that could be a sly reference to the real-life New People's Army (NPA), a communist terrorist group and the armed wing of the Communist Party of the Philippines operating out of the southern islands of the country. Perhaps in the _Fallout_ universe the NPA is financially and materially supported by the Chicom government. That said, based on historical precedent, if the U.S. was participating in the fighting (perhaps the Philippines is still a colony or protectorate of the U.S. in the _Fallout_ timeline), the U.S. Marine Corps was the military branch most likely directly involved. Even though the Gobi Campaign is referred to literally only once by the name of an obscure sniper rifle, I think it's reasonable to speculate that it was largely a special, maybe even covert, operation conducted jointly by the U.S. Army Rangers and the CIA; the U.S. was secretly helping the tribal Mongolians battle the invading Chicoms. This has historical precedent in the Soviet-Afghan War, in which U.S. special forces soldiers and CIA operatives clandestinely assisted the Afghan Mujahideen in fighting the occupying Soviet military. I speculate that the Gobi Campaign was successful, judging from the name of a unique weapon in _Fallout 3_ called the Victory rifle, which is the same kind of sniper rifle of the Gobi Campaign scout rifle.
@@G19xray As an American, I'm intimately aware of the fact that we'll help someone, they'll do something not very " freedom " and we very quickly end up helping to kill that person we just helped. That is like the #1 thing we do. To be fair, if you helped a group that at the time was just a military force, then turned into a bunch of extremists when their enemies were vanquished and were even worse... I think you'd go back and fix your mistake too.
The Desert Ranger armor of the Survivalist originated from the Gobi Campaign as well. Large military action was occurring on the eastern most edge of the desert.
In the BoS Tactics game there was a stage where you could pick up a tank while destroying a robot (mechanoid) factory that was once occupied by a remant of the military. I can't recall where on the map (Midwest), but it was made clear through the level that an 'Army' had occupied the location prior to the mechanoids sweeping through the region, and it is filled with a lot of lootable military weapons, including shells for the tank.
@@Glenn_Quagmire Well, at least tactics is in a weird limbo of canonicity, with some aspects being canon(or implied canonicity, like the existence of a Midwestern BOS) and others not, so nothing can be fully discarded yet
I have always scratched my head at this and all of the explanations for why america fell. Cause In real life the united states has dozens of detailed and indepth failsafes within Failsafes of even more dozens of plans for what to do in the event of nuclear war. Thier plans range form "we can easily survive this, let's just worry about keeping our troops and people safe" to "its over for the united states lets keep all of our important artifacts intact so that whoever comes after us can follow in our footsteps of protecting freedom." This isn't just me making things up, this actually exists. But in Fallout it seams like none of these got actived, in fact it almost seams like someone went out of their way to prevent these plans form being inacted.
Remember Vault-Tec had the government grabbed by the nuts. For all we care, Vault-Tec probably made them disable all the many protocols to maximize the amount of people signing into vault programs and reduce the amount of survivors outside of Vault-Tec control.
This is the whole point of nuclear war. Destruction comes fast and in mass... They prepared escapes for government and Secret service ( Enclave) and some vaults but nothing more. Look at terminator story - it s basically the same start. Also USA government before the war obviously became deeply fascist.
Actually humanity have enough arsenal to destroy the whole planet, not just America. Did ever watch adventure time? World could end like this... with really scarce humanity surviving, replaced by new life forms.
the Enclave subverted the government continuity of operations and it seems like placing a bunch of selfish heads of industries, military commanders and politicians with each other creates devastating affects for each Enclave cell
I’d just like to see those cool dual barrel tanks and stingray fighters in full action. Furthermore, I’d love to see more pre-war content in the next game.
@@Rad_King I would like to point out as well, for ACTIVE duty US Army troops to be called up on our home soil, there would have to be significant violence in country, insurrection, (like Italy in the 1920s, or Russia in 1918); or other limited extreme circumstances. Furthermore, two laws govern the deployment of active duty troops: The 1807 Insurrection Act, and the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. These two laws basically work together to limit the use of active duty military personnel on American soil; (certainly if these laws were NOT in place, you could have a Fallout Canada situation, which would not be good). It seems the developers did a semi decent job in researching how to deploy military forces in country so historical accuracy isn’t *completely* obliterated.
I wasn’t aware of those specifics, thanks for sharing! I also know marshal law was declared and given how authoritarian the U.S. government became I wouldn’t be surprised if they made significant changes to citizens rights and increased federal power. That’s just a hunch though.
I've always loved the Pre War U.S. military, but then again I love anything to do with the Pre War U.S., also including mods that add pre war stuff. Then again I love anything related to Retro Futurism or vintage stuff. Not to mention Fallout London's depiction of a retro futuristic UK, it really is a work of art.
Maybe made by a former service members but you don't need a complex story to why people join powerful mercenary factions after the total destruction of society and... its morals.
In fallout 76 a detachment of the U.S army attempted to guard the monongah power plant I think it’s called. But took heavy casualties to raiders and ended up abandoning it and leaving it to the raiders.
In 76 you meet up with an U.S. Army detachment and one guy talks with you and says point blank that ' we are watching" and you get I think a mission or side quest from them but you never see nor hear from them ever again. not only that but if you go back to the bunker you meet them in.. none of them are there but there are remnants of their occupancy
@@robertravena really? Isn’t that the one mission where you take them back to that one settlement I forgot their name I think the settlement is called foundation? And they join that settlement? Because I know they don’t join the Enclave, since modus doesn’t express any interest in seeking out old U.S soldiers for some reason you’d think he’d be allover that but nope. They probably wouldn’t want to take orders from a computer anyways. Or if it’s something complexity different can you give me the location if you can remember id love to go and do that quest.
@@wisam111 the location is Ransacked bunker in the mire & the quest i think is Duty Calls..a Squad led by Cap't Fields is inside. I think you start the quest by heading over to valley galleria and behind it is flag on a small dock which you have to activate ..its connected with foundation yes as at the end of the quest they join them for ease of operations
@@robertravena oh yea then I think we are both talking about the same quest lol. I wish they did more with the pre war military. It’s only been 25 years I know the original Americans didn’t die off that easily.
I wonder what a fallout game set in the Philippines would be like. I mean, where I visited was just a few steps away from FarCry 3, I can totally imagine pirate raiders, regional variants of ghouls modeled after aswangs and manananngals, and all sorts of giant lizards and bugs. Heck, imagine a radwhipscorpion!
As much as I don't like the idea of a Fallout game set outside of the US, that does sound pretty awesome. Especially pirate raiders and radwhipscorpions. Personally, I'd like to see one set in Western Kentucky. Have something to do with coal mines and the Ohio river. Maybe gangs of farmers and miners fighting over land or access to clean food. And a militia group trying to just keep the peace
Why philippines? It's a terrible setting. It has no significance in the fallout lore. China is the next logical setting for another fallout, outside the US or even Russia.
@@hahdakdahkdhalsla I explained why. While somewhere like China is more appropriate for the first non-US based Fallout, the Philippines is a place mentioned in lore. I think in addition to cultural stuff I like and am familiar with, it would be neat to see a place so often caught between world powers' perspective on nuclear annihilation it was powerless to prevent.
You'd think that a militant group like the Enclave would have made a bigger push to reacquire displaced military personnel after the bombs dropped. If they prepared the navy with instructions to fall back to the oil rig they'd of had (going by real world estimates here, 490 ships with over 340k active personnel with 7k being pilots and over 3.7k aircraft) and considering the military draft/buildup in the Fallout Universe those numbers are probably doubled. If the enclave at that time had that number of personnel they could have established a massive stronghold on the mainland, going into hiding for 160 years really hurt their chances because nobody respected their self proclaimed authority and drove the other factions that formed over the centuries to see them as a major threat.
It's because the enclave were invented before the creators had a clear understanding of what their world was. By the time Bethesda took the reigns, the lore of Fallout was pretty much a bowl of bad spaghetti.
Or better yet, simply an U.S. Military Remnants faction, who had no idea of The Enclave or BoS or any otger faction in the rest of America, in an isolated area, and simply being an isolated faction in an isolated area, and suddenly, a random faction pulls up and wants to take land. And you decide who should take over, whether be it the random faction/s or keep the land to U.S. Military Remnants.
There’s a mod I usually run on a plate through, it’s similar to the more ghouls one but adds military gear on a good bit of them and adds even more around outposts and checkpoints it’s pretty heartbreaking thinking all those deployed to help civil unrest were still wandering around as the bombs were falling
Great video. I commend you on the quality. I can’t imagine the amount of work you put into this. I’ve always had a special appreciation for fallout lore. The universe is very rich .
This is a very interesting topic, very excited for this one! Keep up the great work RadKing! Can't wait to see what's next for your channel, some tremendous work on your part lately and can only get better and better from here.
4:40 I like the idea of SF in the gobi desert working with insurgents in the area to destabilize the Chinese army. The green berets are known for this irl and there are even some examples, especially during Vietnam and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
If they ever make a fallout game in china, it would be really cool to see a pre apocalypse portion of the war where you're fighting and then out of no where the missles launch. Sending you into a misson to find a shelter or something
As an alaskan myself i like the fact that allot of their military info in these games are correct. Including the names and locations of our military bases up here. Chugach, elmendorf, and fire island are all real military installations here.
Used to live right down the road from Bar-Harbour in a small town called bucksport! Always love mentions of Maine, as its very underrepresented in media/games
Just to add on with military units joining the Brotherhood Paladin Romani was a member of the national guard station near Mariposa who eventually joined the Brotherhood.
Hehe El-EM-endorf station hehehehehe you hit pronunciations so well usually - even in other languages so it was super giggly to hear this one. I loved this video and the Alaska expansion, Alaska is awesome everyone should visit.
I know that barely anyone probably gonna see this but. I always liked the idea that some *other* US army remnant survived in a place like fort Knox, whether something really prominent having large sets of Kentucky or maybe even more, or just the nearby area, it just seems cool.
Great video as always King. I'd also like to think that the gobi rifle was from either another conflict or from a spec ops team that was sent in to disrupt trade within the Gobi region. Also, when do you think you'd do another energy weapons video?
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this before, but what about the very, very rich oil and mineral reserves in Siberia? In the real-world China and Russia have fought several small wars/border incidents over Chinese incursions into Siberia. It had been reported that Siberia had more oil than all of the Middle Eastern countries combined, Russia just never had the ability to readily tap into those resources. I would also guess that at some point China would have had to take over that area at it would also have been the best area to launch their Alaskan campaign from. Maybe whomever was responsible for the lore did not know this or maybe did not believe enough people would know this to care, I have no idea why conflicts between Russia and China would have been left out as it would have been related to the Resources Wars.
Id like to point out invading major cities like Beijing might not be feasible in terms of cost. Alot of men, equipment, and vehicles that may be lost immediately for a potentially failed landing. A stronghold objective VS encircling the stronghold is always gonna be a top priority for their ultimate decision making.
Also similarly during the Opium Wars the British didn't go directly for Beijing they marched up the coast but once they got to Shanghai and Nanking they focused on them because they've cut off the river which was a vital artery for the Chinese government of the time and I don't think it'd be too far of a stretch to say it's still important artery for the Chinese government of Fallout during the time.
It's a small thing but I noticed three missed specific instances. There's a National Guard depot, training site, and armory on the edge of the Capitol ruins, where the Keller family intended to take shelter. At the very least it's partially active even after a seeming direct hit, with military robots. It was also a research area as that's where you find the experimental MIRV. So it wad active and operational up to the day of the Great War and maybe after, certainly after with the robots. Fort Constantine was active until they day of the war, and held some kind of important Power Armor. It had better be special given what you have to do to get it. And finally... they all but outright say that THE nuclear football was lost in a military base on the West Coast. It had to be the football, as it had all the proper and potent authorization codes to immediately and without further needed confirmation activate the ICBM silos. Only the top level authorization codes could get all those warheads activated and fired instantaneously. And they were then built into ED-E 2, which is why Ulysses needed him to launch the last active warheads.
Alaska resident here. The bases mentioned in anchorage are real, or close to real bases. The chugach overlook base and fire island base either housed or were near housing sites for Nike nuclear interceptor missiles. The chugach overlook bases is still manned as a signal observation, radar and training post. They put a big lighted star on the mountain side every year around christmas. Fire island never had a (known) base, but the nearby kincaid interceptor site likely has been expanded or relocated there from the mainland. Kincaid is currently a very nice park several of its facilities are used for storage of sporting or park maintenance equipment, or can be rented for events. Elmendorf airforce base is still in use and is conjoined to the neighboring army fort richardson, currently known as Joint base elemendorf-richardson (JBER). It houses advanced aircraft such as AWACs and F-22 fighters which frequently go up to turn away russian aircraft probing US airspace. They also do a significant amount of paratrooper training there.
love the channel no offense but your videos are amazing to fall asleep too theyre interesting but calm and its about a game i love but know little about keep up the good work
4:54 It's entirely possible in the fallout universe that maybe the UK held onto Hong Kong, given the generally more jingoistic nature of much of fallout's history following its divergence from our timeline.
Well that was the hope, that I would grow enough to be able to get better equipment so that I could put out more quality videos. I still have some plans for the future too so I hope you stick around :)
It's not fallout but there is a great TTRPG called Twilight 2000 that goes right into the degradation of military structure directly after a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia in Central Europe. It shows how quickly loyalties are damaged and even broken when desperation takes hold and everyone is fighting to survive.
People don’t realise the distance between Shanghai and Nanjing on that map....it’s around 305km (190 miles) that’s quite a distance to punch into mainland China...
@@Rad_King you could put anything out and I’d watch it. But I’d love to hear what you would do given you had full control over the next fallout game. Seeing how in depth and detailed you can be, it’d be a great video
@@Rad_King was just joking my liege, have whatever you want in the background :) just taking a cheap shot at 76, put 200 hours in it and regret just about all of it, but the footage is great. is a good looking game, just not for me playwise :)
I based a lot of my stuff off the concept of how people are from my time within the military. The Air Force is the first to go personally. As they are SOOO reliant on oil for fuel, and there is very little evidence of planes using nuclear power before 4. With the crumbling of everything around them, they are the first to be folded into various other units. The Navy is next, as the water will be simply so radioactive, that having ships in the water is terrible. They pull back and are merged with the Air Force and then later the Marines. The Marines and Army would probably be the longest lived, but it won't be long. Once the bombs drops, the chain of command is going to be shredded in very short order. The lost of radio communication, ruining of all electronics, and more in such a short time, lower enlisted will take their kits and run, heading to the families. Following this, other soldiers, longer lived in the military will slowly trickle out, until at some point, a commander just issues the order "Survive and link up with people as you can. Protect the people." In my table top games, my groups often find various areas where military personnel were setting up what they can to protect communities. There are die hard groups as well, ones who stayed strong for along as possible before the routes needed to keep them supported decayed away. After that really, there isn't much. The Enclave is miliary/government, BoS had a lot of original military, but after that is was... Well... Nothing. I personally suspect the Arizona Rangers were a group of former soldiers, and descendants of soldiers before merging with the NCR.
I’ve got the feeling that the Navy would be ones to realize they can never go back to their homes, and since they still have /mostly/ functional ships, unite and try to go to some sort of home base, like Pearl Harbor for example.
I remember my father explaining to me how short of a time their NBC mask filters lifetimes were. Basically enough to retreat out of an area affected by tactical battlefield nuclear weapons. A few days maximum stored in the vehicle. It seems to me that the Military had a very short window of time to establish or reach secure bunkers, or escape to unaffected areas before the rad x/radaway and mask filters ran out.
I played Fallout 1&2 player back in 2001. I loved the games back then. Only in the last 6yrs did I pick up 3, NV and 4. I do miss the creepiness of discovering the world after nuclear war in the first 2 games. Definitely do not miss the combat system. I love NV and 4 over 3. That's mostly because the character feels like he's running in place with a matte screen in front.
This was a great fun video 😀. The only criticism I have (which is small) the Army National Guard is a reserve component of the US Army, indeed they are the most used and called upon but they are all technically part of the Army, they all wear Army uniforms go to Army schools use Army equipment etc. You could have put the National Guard in the Army section for efficiency 🙂
This is such a good channel. Ive had a fallout shaped hole in my heart since i found out Oxhorn was ..less than savory... and yours is so good! I love your actually pronouncing the names of places!!! I love this channel now
@TheLolo099 Defining "being a creep" would help. I'm not trying to say something here, I'm just letting you know that terms can be interpreted in different ways. Was he stalking someone? Was he doxxing people's IP's, addresses and emails? Was something of his that he owns found in his possession that everyone collectively agrees is weird to have? I hope you understand what I meant by this.
Its got plenty of redeeming qualities and frankly if I were never made Fallout New Vegas wouldn't have been made either. Even those who prefer NV ought to acknowledge that.
With regard to the China Campaign, there's some passing lore with Randall Clark, who was a veteran of the China Campaign. You can see some information about it on his Desert Ranger Combat Armor with kill counts for Shanghai and Nanjing. I PERSONALLY speculate that Randall Clark may have been involved with the Gobi Campaign itself, given his personal armor is "Desert Ranger" armor, and therefor suited to a desert environment, but I don't have any information to back this up.
I mean from what I could tell what was left of em Either left to find there family's while the ones the did stay probably didn't last long then there's the chance a good few of em could've joined the brotherhood but and entire group of em Found the enclave joined then Realized what was happening And all party's evolved Where killed
very nice subtle reference in the intro to a great survival horror game called "Signalis". It's the numbers broadcast spoken in german during the intro
What happened to military units is a thing often overlooked or ignored by sci fi writers because it’s difficult, in regards to the fallout, the franchise refere to atomic bonbs not Hydrogen bombs so the fallout given a strictly atomic war would be absolutely survivable with fallout being far less than predicted in our own history, H bombs are significantly more powerful and destructive leaving the planet basically uninhabitable after a major exchange.
With Power Armor and Vertibirds being the main symbol of "vehicle" power in the franchise for so long, it would be interesting to see a future faction using other military equipment in limited numbers (tanks/fighters).
That would be very interesting like using a apc or one of the many tanks lying around
@@lane-_-mass5006 That would be a sick set piece, an APC brings you to the fight as you run out of it in Power Armor.
@@frankieb9444 Or like a tank That's been repainted with what ever factions using it Just driving into a battle Guns blazin
Fallout 3 has fighters on the aircraft carrier city
The NCR is said to have a motorized division, so they have at least a few troop trucks running, along with their trains.
I'd like to play Fallout right after bombs fell, seeing the army transition into brotherhood of steel or even enclave.
The setting itself is tense, not to mention all the drama, war, trade, alliances, story's of the groups and individuals can be told...
Not to mention having traveled to Asia or Pacific in fallout universe
There was a taste of that in 76's Nuclear Winter, but for some insane reason that doesn't exist anymore
You can figure out how the brotherhood of steel became in fallout 76 trouch tapes and notes... So basically it's already done
I want a Fallout in a non-US city. Paris, London or Shanghai. Maybe Tokyo. Heck, even Montreal would be nice.
@@TheJMBon wouldn't really fit the 50s america aesthetic that fallout uses. Metro already exists for a Russian perspective on what it may be like. I doubt fallout is leaving america anytime soon is all I'm saying
@@UnholyWrath3277 that's a very good point, but you've got to admit having a glimpse into China after the war as perhaps the child of an American operative on the ground at the time would be at the very least an interesting perspective
Realistically speaking there should be dozens upon dozens of remnant groups of varying sizes and affiliations after the war, not just the enclave or brotherhood. There’s countless bases across the nation and the world, and there should be military outpost holdouts as one possibility. There could’ve been many other factions with different goals than the Brotherhood and enclave depending on the region or even having national cohesion. I would compare this to the collapse of the Russian empire during the First World War, where the military fractures among political lines and each have their own goals and plans.
We have that hold out group of Chinese ghouls in DC, stands to reason there would be similar US holdouts that never linked up with the Enclave when they retreated to secure facilities.
Gunners ncr bos outcasts reillys rangers talon company
@@glamrockbonnie5983 Reilly's rangers and talon company have nothing to do with the military, they're just random mercenary groups
@@Lightning_God_kashimo that use pre war military equipment
@@glamrockbonnie5983 But they aren't affiliated with the military in the slightest, I wouldn't consider an airsofter a marine or anything
You know, its almost too bad there weren't Enclave Remnants in Fallout 4. Nate is probably one of the few they'd accept on and it would give more onfo on them.
Pretty decent mod for it.
I mean, the enclave has been done in by a fallout protagonist twice now, and if Bethesda is already milking the BOS I think Id prefers they at least let enclave rest. Although… it would be pretty cool to see how they interact with the institute. Damn. Maybe I do want the enclave
technically there is one. Grand Zealot Richter in Far Harbour was formerly a Lieutenant in the Enclave
@@browning2471 it’s be an evil off of who can be the biggest dick.
@@Nick-pc7km personally, I like being able to have the good guys be cooler or as cool as the bad guys.
I am an apiary [honeybees] biologist.
I think I remember Deathclaws being mostly genetically modified iguanas, if so then the following may answer the question on the "intelligent genes" heredity.
The answer about death claw intelligence may not actually be in the sex chromosomes at all.
Consider that Iguanas can have a range of chromosomes depending on the species. Either being n28 or n36. Which means an n28 female and an n36 male can have cross breading, resulting in... a range of interesting outcomes.
Then consider that some extremely rare cases have been studied of the female iguana having a different number of haploid chromosomes than their same species male counterparts.
I think it's the last part which may answer the question of intelligent deathclaws.
It may be that the females have an additional chromosome or lack a chromosome which in some way inhibits the turning on/off of the alleles that the "Intelligent gene" would provide.
It may also be that the Female and male Deathclaws are two separate species with varying numbers of chromosomes even among siblings.
This may also explain how we see a massive range of Deathclaw adaptations in just a few hundred years. (We know Deathclaws are prewar and have resistance to FEV and Radiation, so this alone does not explain such adaptations.)
I hope this was helpful. If you want further explanation, then please feel free to comment.
[EDIT: Turns out they are mostly GMO Chameleons. However this does not change the theory. Read my reply to Frank Horrigan for more detail.]
Commenting in case you elaborate further, because this sounds interesting.
Wow. You just blew my mind. Now I have to replace a fuse, thank you very much.
In all seriousness, that's an impressive theory on deathclaw evolution. I will have to disagree on one thing. I'm pretty sure in Fallout 3, it was in Enclave research that deathclaws were mutated from the Jackson's Chameleon.
@@frankhorrigan2047
Well Chameleons are near the top of the reptile "strangeness" I was talking about.
So "Jackson's Chameleon" or Trioceros jacksonii does not have an identified sex chromosome system according to the 2018 Journal of Evolutionary Biology Volume 31, Issue 4, P. 484-490.
Which is actually the case with all but 4 species of chameleons. So far, only 1 has XX-XY sex chromosomes.
And the other 3 having female heterogamety ZZ-ZW systems.
And one being identified as temperature-dependent (TSD).
However. Chameleons and Iguanas both share key components in common, in terms of the theory I put out.
Both have species with chromosomal complement differences. Such is the case with the south African chameleon, Bradypodion ventrale, which had differed between sexes (2n = 34 in males and 35 in females).
This means the reason nearly all intelligent deathclaws are male, may be because the females have an extra chromosome that is inhibiting the alleles of the "intelligent gene(s)".
They also share a similarity in regards to having a range of chromosomes within the same Genus.
Trioceros, the genus that contains "Jackson's Chameleon", have a (2n) range of 24-36.
So thankfully, the basics of the theory do not change.
This is awesome and a lot more interesting than I honestly thought it would be. Thanks for the knowledge drop!
Damn that's cool!
I can imagine, just based on it being a sniper, that units deployed to the Gobi Desert may have been special operations to foster insurgency in an occupied area and/or to help disrupt trade and resource movements between the Soviet Union and China.
That’s what I was thinking too, not a garrison of troops but a small squad sized force
Exactly!
Shhhhh
I thought China annexed the USSR when it collapsed in the Fallout timeline
Wasn’t the USSR allies with the US in the Fallout timeline?
I agree with you that I always assumed that the Gobi Campaign was a separate, earlier incident than the Sino-American war, because it seems really bizarre for the US to attack that area of China and it would be unclear how they would have access without cooperation from the USSR
Yeah, my assumption is that China annexed Mongolia, and the US would fund Mongolian Ressistance groups.
Glad I’m not the only one! It makes the most sense that was an earlier event and I would really like some more lore on this.
Historical fact. Mongolia was going to be dissolved but becuse China basicle did a fuck you to Russia, Russia kept Mongolia as Mongolia as a buffer zone. And China annexing Mongolia would go against said buffer zone treaty, meaning. War.
So Russia would be an Allie to America, but they would not admit it.:4
Fate of US military and individual units/members can provide plenty of material for several Fallout games. Though as someone being more interested in gadgets I would like to see more of various military hardware. IRL militaries operate dozens of vehicles of various specialties, often in few variations and so so far we've got very little taste of that.
And I know for a fact that somewhere, out there in the Fallout America there's still some super top secret experimental technology yet to be uncovered.
The blueprints to pre war vehicles and the someone or something with the knowledge to make them.
Imagine a faction with an active APC or Tank or some other crazy vehicle. Nuclear fusion VTOL idk 😂
So much of America (which includes annexes) that hasn't been covered, so many games, so much potential.
Well, from what we know NCR has sizable vehicle pool working alongside with operating railway engines. Shame that it wasn't properly shown in NV as having ability to do that is a game changer when it comes to waging war, both IRL and in Fallout world.
You forgot Camp Navarro (Poseidon Energy Oil Refinery turned military base and jumping off point to the Mainland for Enclave Forces) when you listed active Enclave Installations. Also, through ED-E in New Vegas, we learn that the Enclave has Outposts in Chicago as well. Also there is the Vertibird Refueling Station near Jacobstown as well (though it is minor.)
Also Vault 79 was not guarded by Army Security Forces, but the Secret Service, which is a seperate Government Agency and has not much to do with the US Military, instead, they are probably under the Department of the Treasury in Fallout.
Really good points and I’ll have to double check my notes on who guarded vault 79
I would like to learn more about this
@@Rad_King respuesta corto, el maldito wendigo que siempre me mataba hasta que lleve jetpcak para esconderme en altura 😂😂😂
I always wondered what happened to all the Aircraft carriers, Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Frigates and Submarines in the US Navy. Something like 310 ships of different class exists now, who knows how many there would have been by 2077. I know there's Rivet city and a sub or two and not all would be on deployment but that doesn't explain all of them. I wonder if the is a third post war paramilitary organization that are the remnants of the US Navy that exist out there somewhere.
The Brothood of.... um. Hatches, yeah!
They were prob in or around the CHINA theater and Alaska at the time. With the minimum needed on the USA coasts to protect them. That is also how so many Chinese subs were able to get into strike positions. Like hos the shi set up a colony in California. I imagine there was prob similar colonies of USA navy and forces in the ruins of china.
God could you imagine any of the navy that was out in the middle of the ocean when the bombs dropped? And any long term survivors in the ocean?
*I would not like to be out in the ocean post war that's for sure*
Not sure how long it took for ghoul whales to come about but who knows what monsters roam the oceans....
I wondered the same thing. If the ships were nuclear powered then there’s a chance they could try and make it back to the U.S., but supplies and perhaps navigation could make a return almost impossible. It would be pretty cool though if there was a raiding/pirate faction of old warships that moves along the coast and pillages any settlements they find. Some sort of wasteland Vikings.
@@Rad_King Wasteland Vikings with nuclear powered aircraft carriers and planes... now that's a scary faction.
I'd love to see a realistic game say, 35 to 40y after the bombs fell. The military has lots of underground bases, many being virtually resistant to radiation and nukes. The first generation of surviving generals and such could die off, with their children having replaced them. It'd need more tech and stuff like working cars, APCs, etc. You might even find an Aircraft Carrier that can't move and have the chance to repair it to a state of limited mobility.
That would pretty much return proper America under Enclave (if that generals are loyal, if not there would be many BoS style factions)
Isn't that a boomer mission on Fallout New Vegas? To fix a big plane..
Imagine. A fleet of ships trying to hit up what's now known as Rivet City.
Man deserves more subscribers for the amount of time and effort he puts into his videos, thank you for giving us this kind of content.
You are too kind. I am really glad you enjoy the content, stick around because there is a lot more to come
You’re right. I went and followed him because of you.
That sucks that people we’re leaving (I’m assuming) gross comments about your wife. Sorry that you guys had to deal with that. I thought RadQueen was a lovely addition to your content & look forward to the day she decides to join in on another video, if she ever does. Which, after the kind of experience it sounds like you guys had with the comments in the last video, I wouldn’t blame her if she doesn’t want to be in another video. Hope you guys have a great weekend & can’t wait for your next video! This one was great!
What's up with everybody typing "we're?" Heads up - you're still incorrect.
You mean to say: "That sucks that people WERE leaving..."
You do NOT mean to say: "That sucks that people WE ARE leaving..."
@@contramachina354 dude, no one cares
@@RandomGuy-fq4mb if no one cared why did you comment? Please cry harder
@@contramachina354 maybe they just made a mistake, there’s no need to be so aggressive dude
@@OrroHelhammer don't be rude
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I'm loving the content so far. In keeping with the "Atom's faithful" vibe, it'd be pretty cool to see a video on the various religions and cults that have popped up post war.
You better believe that’s in the works 😈
I would add that, as a soldier in the National Guard, the National Guard isn’t a branch of the military. It’s a reserve component of the Army and Air Force (Army National Guard and Air National Guard). The National Guard simply belongs to those two branches, from which, the state is allowed to use for domestic missions.
u being in the NG has nothing to do with the video guy u work 120 days a year bum
Unless the situation is fucked and the feds can indeed use them for non domestic things... (WW2)
@@ThatOliveMrT Right, I was implying that when I said, “reserve component of Army and Air Force”.
The Army National Guard belongs to the Army. Air National Guard belongs to the Air Force. They ultimately answer to the Army and Air Force and serve on their federal missions. Which doesn’t need an emergency. The National Guard deploys to the same places and at the same frequency as the Active Duty Army and Air Force.
@@ThatOliveMrT The situation doesn’t have to be fucked at all for National Guard to be deployed overseas. GWOT changed that. Since GWOT, the National Guard has been all over the place.
@@TheUnseenSoldier yep! 6 years national guard myself with 3 deployments.
The Gobi desert irl has a lot of uranium coal and oil. China does have a portion of the Gobi desert in their borders and have some extraction projects in the desert that are currently ongoing. That would explain why the us army would invade. It's also possible that Chinese/us forces could have fought proxy wars in Mongolia
Interesting, I will have to read up more on the mineral wealth of the region.
Or the Gobi Campaign could hint at the Soviets getting involved in the last part of the war; by the Great War relations between the US and USSR had improved significantly, and Mongolia being a former Soviet puppet state that China wanted to control would destabilize relations between the two countries to the point of the Soviets using the American invasion of China as an opportunity to gain territory and resources from them.
Mongolia was a communist country and a very firm ally to the USSR during the 20th century. I doubt there would be proxy wars in a land-locked communist state surrounded by other communist states.
Or Sunday in Special Forces to lead a resistance against the Chinese forces
Just thought of it. Unlot of untapped resources and Mongolia doesn't utilize much of it. A Chinese annexation of Mongolia would make strategic sense in the timeline.
One reason, completely speculative, why Hong Kong might not have been mentioned as a US target - Who said in the Fallout universe that the UK ever gave it back? I mean we don't know much about how close the Commonwealth was (with the only references to the UK's geo-politics being that it was part of the European Commonwealth, which sounded like a more integrated EU, along retaining a separate military). It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the Fallout equivalent of our words Commonwealth is a much closer union, potentially meaning Hong Kong remained outside of CCP hands... just a theory.
Why it would be a target? There are no resources.
@@alexzero3736 Hong Kong has long had a strong military presence, as its a fairly convenient location for a navy base
The UK died with eroupe and the middle east in the resource wars before China and the USA went to war safe to say they didn't run Hong Kong during the great war given they'd already colapsed
we need a fallout game that take place in another country or something like that
@@alexjackyperson101I think the only locale that could work for that would be Canada
Regarding the skirmishing going on the Philippines, that could be a sly reference to the real-life New People's Army (NPA), a communist terrorist group and the armed wing of the Communist Party of the Philippines operating out of the southern islands of the country. Perhaps in the _Fallout_ universe the NPA is financially and materially supported by the Chicom government. That said, based on historical precedent, if the U.S. was participating in the fighting (perhaps the Philippines is still a colony or protectorate of the U.S. in the _Fallout_ timeline), the U.S. Marine Corps was the military branch most likely directly involved.
Even though the Gobi Campaign is referred to literally only once by the name of an obscure sniper rifle, I think it's reasonable to speculate that it was largely a special, maybe even covert, operation conducted jointly by the U.S. Army Rangers and the CIA; the U.S. was secretly helping the tribal Mongolians battle the invading Chicoms. This has historical precedent in the Soviet-Afghan War, in which U.S. special forces soldiers and CIA operatives clandestinely assisted the Afghan Mujahideen in fighting the occupying Soviet military. I speculate that the Gobi Campaign was successful, judging from the name of a unique weapon in _Fallout 3_ called the Victory rifle, which is the same kind of sniper rifle of the Gobi Campaign scout rifle.
Marines we’re helping the Philippine Army during the siege of Marawi.
Check out operation pacific eagle too bro.
@@G19xray As an American, I'm intimately aware of the fact that we'll help someone, they'll do something not very " freedom " and we very quickly end up helping to kill that person we just helped. That is like the #1 thing we do. To be fair, if you helped a group that at the time was just a military force, then turned into a bunch of extremists when their enemies were vanquished and were even worse... I think you'd go back and fix your mistake too.
The Desert Ranger armor of the Survivalist originated from the Gobi Campaign as well. Large military action was occurring on the eastern most edge of the desert.
In the BoS Tactics game there was a stage where you could pick up a tank while destroying a robot (mechanoid) factory that was once occupied by a remant of the military. I can't recall where on the map (Midwest), but it was made clear through the level that an 'Army' had occupied the location prior to the mechanoids sweeping through the region, and it is filled with a lot of lootable military weapons, including shells for the tank.
Bos and tactics aren't canon anymore tho
@@Glenn_Quagmire Well, at least tactics is in a weird limbo of canonicity, with some aspects being canon(or implied canonicity, like the existence of a Midwestern BOS) and others not, so nothing can be fully discarded yet
I have always scratched my head at this and all of the explanations for why america fell. Cause In real life the united states has dozens of detailed and indepth failsafes within Failsafes of even more dozens of plans for what to do in the event of nuclear war. Thier plans range form "we can easily survive this, let's just worry about keeping our troops and people safe" to "its over for the united states lets keep all of our important artifacts intact so that whoever comes after us can follow in our footsteps of protecting freedom." This isn't just me making things up, this actually exists. But in Fallout it seams like none of these got actived, in fact it almost seams like someone went out of their way to prevent these plans form being inacted.
Remember Vault-Tec had the government grabbed by the nuts. For all we care, Vault-Tec probably made them disable all the many protocols to maximize the amount of people signing into vault programs and reduce the amount of survivors outside of Vault-Tec control.
This is the whole point of nuclear war. Destruction comes fast and in mass... They prepared escapes for government and Secret service ( Enclave) and some vaults but nothing more. Look at terminator story - it s basically the same start. Also USA government before the war obviously became deeply fascist.
Actually humanity have enough arsenal to destroy the whole planet, not just America. Did ever watch adventure time? World could end like this... with really scarce humanity surviving, replaced by new life forms.
Agreed.
the Enclave subverted the government continuity of operations and it seems like placing a bunch of selfish heads of industries, military commanders and politicians with each other creates devastating affects for each Enclave cell
I’d just like to see those cool dual barrel tanks and stingray fighters in full action. Furthermore, I’d love to see more pre-war content in the next game.
Double barrel tanks… yes please.
@@Rad_King I would like to point out as well, for ACTIVE duty US Army troops to be called up on our home soil, there would have to be significant violence in country, insurrection, (like Italy in the 1920s, or Russia in 1918); or other limited extreme circumstances.
Furthermore, two laws govern the deployment of active duty troops: The 1807 Insurrection Act, and the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. These two laws basically work together to limit the use of active duty military personnel on American soil; (certainly if these laws were NOT in place, you could have a Fallout Canada situation, which would not be good). It seems the developers did a semi decent job in researching how to deploy military forces in country so historical accuracy isn’t *completely* obliterated.
I wasn’t aware of those specifics, thanks for sharing! I also know marshal law was declared and given how authoritarian the U.S. government became I wouldn’t be surprised if they made significant changes to citizens rights and increased federal power. That’s just a hunch though.
I've always loved the Pre War U.S. military, but then again I love anything to do with the Pre War U.S., also including mods that add pre war stuff. Then again I love anything related to Retro Futurism or vintage stuff. Not to mention Fallout London's depiction of a retro futuristic UK, it really is a work of art.
I imagine the gunners and Talon Company were formed from remnants that didn't join the Brotherhood.
Or just based their ranking system from the US Army
Maybe made by a former service members but you don't need a complex story to why people join powerful mercenary factions after the total destruction of society and... its morals.
The gunners were vault dwellers. The vault with the kids under the Malden high school afaik.
In fallout 76 a detachment of the U.S army attempted to guard the monongah power plant I think it’s called. But took heavy casualties to raiders and ended up abandoning it and leaving it to the raiders.
In 76 you meet up with an U.S. Army detachment and one guy talks with you and says point blank that ' we are watching" and you get I think a mission or side quest from them but you never see nor hear from them ever again. not only that but if you go back to the bunker you meet them in.. none of them are there but there are remnants of their occupancy
@@robertravena really? Isn’t that the one mission where you take them back to that one settlement I forgot their name I think the settlement is called foundation? And they join that settlement? Because I know they don’t join the Enclave, since modus doesn’t express any interest in seeking out old U.S soldiers for some reason you’d think he’d be allover that but nope. They probably wouldn’t want to take orders from a computer anyways.
Or if it’s something complexity different can you give me the location if you can remember id love to go and do that quest.
@@wisam111 the location is Ransacked bunker in the mire & the quest i think is Duty Calls..a Squad led by Cap't Fields is inside. I think you start the quest by heading over to valley galleria and behind it is flag on a small dock which you have to activate ..its connected with foundation yes as at the end of the quest they join them for ease of operations
@@robertravena oh yea then I think we are both talking about the same quest lol. I wish they did more with the pre war military. It’s only been 25 years I know the original Americans didn’t die off that easily.
I wonder what a fallout game set in the Philippines would be like. I mean, where I visited was just a few steps away from FarCry 3, I can totally imagine pirate raiders, regional variants of ghouls modeled after aswangs and manananngals, and all sorts of giant lizards and bugs. Heck, imagine a radwhipscorpion!
As much as I don't like the idea of a Fallout game set outside of the US, that does sound pretty awesome. Especially pirate raiders and radwhipscorpions. Personally, I'd like to see one set in Western Kentucky. Have something to do with coal mines and the Ohio river. Maybe gangs of farmers and miners fighting over land or access to clean food. And a militia group trying to just keep the peace
radwhipscorpion is most unrad. fuckin terrifying lil things
@@frankhorrigan2047 Counterpoint, A fallout game taking place in the former Us Controlled areas of China
Why philippines? It's a terrible setting. It has no significance in the fallout lore. China is the next logical setting for another fallout, outside the US or even Russia.
@@hahdakdahkdhalsla I explained why. While somewhere like China is more appropriate for the first non-US based Fallout, the Philippines is a place mentioned in lore. I think in addition to cultural stuff I like and am familiar with, it would be neat to see a place so often caught between world powers' perspective on nuclear annihilation it was powerless to prevent.
You'd think that a militant group like the Enclave would have made a bigger push to reacquire displaced military personnel after the bombs dropped. If they prepared the navy with instructions to fall back to the oil rig they'd of had (going by real world estimates here, 490 ships with over 340k active personnel with 7k being pilots and over 3.7k aircraft) and considering the military draft/buildup in the Fallout Universe those numbers are probably doubled. If the enclave at that time had that number of personnel they could have established a massive stronghold on the mainland, going into hiding for 160 years really hurt their chances because nobody respected their self proclaimed authority and drove the other factions that formed over the centuries to see them as a major threat.
It's because the enclave were invented before the creators had a clear understanding of what their world was. By the time Bethesda took the reigns, the lore of Fallout was pretty much a bowl of bad spaghetti.
I think it would be cool in a future game to see a local faction which is a remnant of the US military but has become a clan of war lords
Or better yet, simply an U.S. Military Remnants faction, who had no idea of The Enclave or BoS or any otger faction in the rest of America, in an isolated area, and simply being an isolated faction in an isolated area, and suddenly, a random faction pulls up and wants to take land. And you decide who should take over, whether be it the random faction/s or keep the land to U.S. Military Remnants.
There’s a mod I usually run on a plate through, it’s similar to the more ghouls one but adds military gear on a good bit of them and adds even more around outposts and checkpoints it’s pretty heartbreaking thinking all those deployed to help civil unrest were still wandering around as the bombs were falling
Great video. I commend you on the quality. I can’t imagine the amount of work you put into this.
I’ve always had a special appreciation for fallout lore. The universe is very rich .
I clicked on this thinking it was a documentary about the real world army, instead I get this incredibly interesting Fallout history.
Don't have time to watch now but im gonna get cozy as HECK tonight and enjoy the heck imagining the info you present here. Peace
Haha, you better have a nice Friday night or so help me…
This is a very interesting topic, very excited for this one! Keep up the great work RadKing! Can't wait to see what's next for your channel, some tremendous work on your part lately and can only get better and better from here.
That’s the plan, I hope to see you in my comments for future content :)
Always making my Friday glow a bit brighter! Thank you radking
You are very welcome! I hope you have a great weekend.
4:40 I like the idea of SF in the gobi desert working with insurgents in the area to destabilize the Chinese army. The green berets are known for this irl and there are even some examples, especially during Vietnam and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Pure gold. Thanks for the upload.
You are very welcome.
Space Force confirmed with the Battle of Tranquility Sea!
The background video with the intense tactical flintlock rifle is hilarious. Never saw someone that patient in fallout 76.
If they ever make a fallout game in china, it would be really cool to see a pre apocalypse portion of the war where you're fighting and then out of no where the missles launch. Sending you into a misson to find a shelter or something
What if the fighting in the Gobi desert was a standoff between the USSR and China. In our timeline they had plenty of standoffs and border conflicts.
As an alaskan myself i like the fact that allot of their military info in these games are correct. Including the names and locations of our military bases up here. Chugach, elmendorf, and fire island are all real military installations here.
I have been recommending your channel to all my friends and they all love your videos
My man! That’s so cool to hear, we must keep spreading the good message of Atom.
One minor correction at 12:26 - Bar Harbour is in MAINE, not Massachusetts.
Used to live right down the road from Bar-Harbour in a small town called bucksport!
Always love mentions of Maine, as its very underrepresented in media/games
He makes that mistake quite frequently
I suspect the U.S may have been fighting the zeta aliens in the moon, but as you said anything regarding that would be pure conjecture.
Radking: "I think it's time we see other people"
Ex-GF: "Time to Die"
This is gold
>Reads title
>Clicks on video
>Immediately comments without watching any of it
They became the Enclave.
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves
It would be cool if you would do a: The Buildings of Fallout.
Sure I’ll put it on my list!
Just to add on with military units joining the Brotherhood Paladin Romani was a member of the national guard station near Mariposa who eventually joined the Brotherhood.
The Fallout game I want, and will NEVER get?
Fallout: Gobi. You can't tell me no one in China had plans akin to Vault-Tec's.
Hehe El-EM-endorf station hehehehehe you hit pronunciations so well usually - even in other languages so it was super giggly to hear this one. I loved this video and the Alaska expansion, Alaska is awesome everyone should visit.
I know that barely anyone probably gonna see this but. I always liked the idea that some *other* US army remnant survived in a place like fort Knox, whether something really prominent having large sets of Kentucky or maybe even more, or just the nearby area, it just seems cool.
I've been binging your content as I've just recently discovered your channel great work
Great video as always King. I'd also like to think that the gobi rifle was from either another conflict or from a spec ops team that was sent in to disrupt trade within the Gobi region. Also, when do you think you'd do another energy weapons video?
This Video includes more than I bargained for. Thank you very much for your dedicated and loving videos! Including the odd meme and joke ;)
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this before, but what about the very, very rich oil and mineral reserves in Siberia? In the real-world China and Russia have fought several small wars/border incidents over Chinese incursions into Siberia. It had been reported that Siberia had more oil than all of the Middle Eastern countries combined, Russia just never had the ability to readily tap into those resources. I would also guess that at some point China would have had to take over that area at it would also have been the best area to launch their Alaskan campaign from. Maybe whomever was responsible for the lore did not know this or maybe did not believe enough people would know this to care, I have no idea why conflicts between Russia and China would have been left out as it would have been related to the Resources Wars.
Very interesting! You put a lot of work into this and it shows! Thank you!
Id like to point out invading major cities like Beijing might not be feasible in terms of cost. Alot of men, equipment, and vehicles that may be lost immediately for a potentially failed landing. A stronghold objective VS encircling the stronghold is always gonna be a top priority for their ultimate decision making.
Yup. Always the first objective is to flank your enemy.
Also similarly during the Opium Wars the British didn't go directly for Beijing they marched up the coast but once they got to Shanghai and Nanking they focused on them because they've cut off the river which was a vital artery for the Chinese government of the time and I don't think it'd be too far of a stretch to say it's still important artery for the Chinese government of Fallout during the time.
Awesome video friend, thanks for compiling all this into one nice video
I want to see an fps set before the bombs falling during the great war in china or alaska. Not an rpg, just a battlefield type fps set in the war
i read the title not knowing it was a fallout video, i was moderately concerned for this man's mental stability
I used to cut hair at the “old white resort.” The only difference was the ghouls had more money in there pockets in real life.
It's a small thing but I noticed three missed specific instances.
There's a National Guard depot, training site, and armory on the edge of the Capitol ruins, where the Keller family intended to take shelter. At the very least it's partially active even after a seeming direct hit, with military robots. It was also a research area as that's where you find the experimental MIRV. So it wad active and operational up to the day of the Great War and maybe after, certainly after with the robots.
Fort Constantine was active until they day of the war, and held some kind of important Power Armor. It had better be special given what you have to do to get it.
And finally... they all but outright say that THE nuclear football was lost in a military base on the West Coast. It had to be the football, as it had all the proper and potent authorization codes to immediately and without further needed confirmation activate the ICBM silos. Only the top level authorization codes could get all those warheads activated and fired instantaneously. And they were then built into ED-E 2, which is why Ulysses needed him to launch the last active warheads.
You left out that group of army remnants you find during the settlers side of the wastelanders main quest
Haha dude you always find something. Always keeping me honest!
Alaska resident here. The bases mentioned in anchorage are real, or close to real bases. The chugach overlook base and fire island base either housed or were near housing sites for Nike nuclear interceptor missiles. The chugach overlook bases is still manned as a signal observation, radar and training post. They put a big lighted star on the mountain side every year around christmas. Fire island never had a (known) base, but the nearby kincaid interceptor site likely has been expanded or relocated there from the mainland. Kincaid is currently a very nice park several of its facilities are used for storage of sporting or park maintenance equipment, or can be rented for events. Elmendorf airforce base is still in use and is conjoined to the neighboring army fort richardson, currently known as Joint base elemendorf-richardson (JBER). It houses advanced aircraft such as AWACs and F-22 fighters which frequently go up to turn away russian aircraft probing US airspace. They also do a significant amount of paratrooper training there.
Great video. I think doing one on all the companies of fallout would make a good topic to cover.
This one is definitely on the docket!
love the channel no offense but your videos are amazing to fall asleep too theyre interesting but calm and its about a game i love but know little about keep up the good work
4:54 It's entirely possible in the fallout universe that maybe the UK held onto Hong Kong, given the generally more jingoistic nature of much of fallout's history following its divergence from our timeline.
Hey man, great stuff here! I bet a lot of time and effort went into making this video. Earned my subscription! Keep up the great work
I clicked this not knowing it was fallout related and then heard what happened to them after nuclear annihilation
Great Video, as always!
I Watch you Since you had 1338 subs!
You are an OG! If you subbed when I had a tin can for a mic then you are truly dedicated.
@@Rad_King you were kinda the only one who was really dedicated to those „the ………. Of Fallout“ Videos, and i think the quality has drasticly improved!
Well that was the hope, that I would grow enough to be able to get better equipment so that I could put out more quality videos. I still have some plans for the future too so I hope you stick around :)
It's not fallout but there is a great TTRPG called Twilight 2000 that goes right into the degradation of military structure directly after a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia in Central Europe. It shows how quickly loyalties are damaged and even broken when desperation takes hold and everyone is fighting to survive.
Idk why but his intro gives me the feel I'm about to see a sick 360 noscope montage and the bass about to drop
People don’t realise the distance between Shanghai and Nanjing on that map....it’s around 305km (190 miles) that’s quite a distance to punch into mainland China...
Just discovered you and I gotta say you got yourself a new subscriber. Good stuff mate.
Having a bad day then new radking appears. Praise Atom!
I’m glad I could brighten your day a bit, I hope you have a good weekend!
Love seeing you and your content grow man. Been here for awhile and love your videos
I love to hear it. Anything you’d like me to cover in a future video?
@@Rad_King you could put anything out and I’d watch it. But I’d love to hear what you would do given you had full control over the next fallout game. Seeing how in depth and detailed you can be, it’d be a great video
Time to listen to another of rad daddy's vids while working
Also when do you think you'll be on 76 next?
I’ve been on a bit and you’re always offline, what gives? I hope to be online tomorrow evening.
@@Rad_King I've been sleeping or working lol, I'm working in the evening but should be around after that
You playing at all this weekend? Want to see if we can catch some fallout 76 footage
Really enjoy your videos, but this F76 footage is giving me PTSD. :)
I’ll switch it up. What game do you prefer for background footage?
@@Rad_King was just joking my liege, have whatever you want in the background :) just taking a cheap shot at 76, put 200 hours in it and regret just about all of it, but the footage is great. is a good looking game, just not for me playwise :)
I based a lot of my stuff off the concept of how people are from my time within the military.
The Air Force is the first to go personally. As they are SOOO reliant on oil for fuel, and there is very little evidence of planes using nuclear power before 4. With the crumbling of everything around them, they are the first to be folded into various other units.
The Navy is next, as the water will be simply so radioactive, that having ships in the water is terrible. They pull back and are merged with the Air Force and then later the Marines.
The Marines and Army would probably be the longest lived, but it won't be long. Once the bombs drops, the chain of command is going to be shredded in very short order. The lost of radio communication, ruining of all electronics, and more in such a short time, lower enlisted will take their kits and run, heading to the families.
Following this, other soldiers, longer lived in the military will slowly trickle out, until at some point, a commander just issues the order "Survive and link up with people as you can. Protect the people."
In my table top games, my groups often find various areas where military personnel were setting up what they can to protect communities.
There are die hard groups as well, ones who stayed strong for along as possible before the routes needed to keep them supported decayed away. After that really, there isn't much. The Enclave is miliary/government, BoS had a lot of original military, but after that is was... Well... Nothing.
I personally suspect the Arizona Rangers were a group of former soldiers, and descendants of soldiers before merging with the NCR.
I’ve got the feeling that the Navy would be ones to realize they can never go back to their homes, and since they still have /mostly/ functional ships, unite and try to go to some sort of home base, like Pearl Harbor for example.
The USMC infantry would last long as they are a expeditionary force
I remember my father explaining to me how short of a time their NBC mask filters lifetimes were. Basically enough to retreat out of an area affected by tactical battlefield nuclear weapons. A few days maximum stored in the vehicle.
It seems to me that the Military had a very short window of time to establish or reach secure bunkers, or escape to unaffected areas before the rad x/radaway and mask filters ran out.
Warlords they probably became warlords
I played Fallout 1&2 player back in 2001. I loved the games back then.
Only in the last 6yrs did I pick up 3, NV and 4.
I do miss the creepiness of discovering the world after nuclear war in the first 2 games.
Definitely do not miss the combat system.
I love NV and 4 over 3. That's mostly because the character feels like he's running in place with a matte screen in front.
I would love to see a Vietnam era USMC unit in a fallout game as a faction
These long videos r the best content
This was a great fun video 😀. The only criticism I have (which is small) the Army National Guard is a reserve component of the US Army, indeed they are the most used and called upon but they are all technically part of the Army, they all wear Army uniforms go to Army schools use Army equipment etc. You could have put the National Guard in the Army section for efficiency 🙂
Thanks for that!
I have seen a lot of your fallout videos and love them keep up the good job and thanks for all the info 😁
This is such a good channel. Ive had a fallout shaped hole in my heart since i found out Oxhorn was ..less than savory... and yours is so good! I love your actually pronouncing the names of places!!! I love this channel now
What did oxhorn do? Ive heard this a lot but ive never heard of him saying or behaving offensively? What am i missing....
@@john-doemcalias4759 Being a creep. You'll find full answer on Reddit
@TheLolo099 Defining "being a creep" would help. I'm not trying to say something here, I'm just letting you know that terms can be interpreted in different ways.
Was he stalking someone?
Was he doxxing people's IP's, addresses and emails?
Was something of his that he owns found in his possession that everyone collectively agrees is weird to have?
I hope you understand what I meant by this.
Holy crap new intro looks awesome
People may call me a dumbass for playing and liking Fallout 3, but it's still my and my best friend's favorite game of all time.
Its got plenty of redeeming qualities and frankly if I were never made Fallout New Vegas wouldn't have been made either.
Even those who prefer NV ought to acknowledge that.
did not realize it was a fallout vid and got confused about what happened to our military.
I thought RadQueen did an excellent job and the back-and-forth style was easy to follow.
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With regard to the China Campaign, there's some passing lore with Randall Clark, who was a veteran of the China Campaign. You can see some information about it on his Desert Ranger Combat Armor with kill counts for Shanghai and Nanjing.
I PERSONALLY speculate that Randall Clark may have been involved with the Gobi Campaign itself, given his personal armor is "Desert Ranger" armor, and therefor suited to a desert environment, but I don't have any information to back this up.
The Enclave despite having many advance technology. Sure have their ass kick around allot. Maybe the Brotherhood should learn something.
So true! Most advanced armor and cutting edge weapons as well. Maybe they need to put more points in luck?
I opened this before I left for work and when I got back I was kind of like, yeah what happen?
And then I remembered it was a fallout video.
The ex-girlfriend/Horrigan bit got me goodXD
Seeing this video in my recommendations with 0 indication that it was about Fallout was really, really funny.
I mean from what I could tell what was left of em Either left to find there family's while the ones the did stay probably didn't last long then there's the chance a good few of em could've joined the brotherhood but and entire group of em Found the enclave joined then Realized what was happening And all party's evolved Where killed
Pretty close, actually.
Thank you for making a slow work day better!
You are so welcome!
Short answer: The Enclave.
That or they become the brotherhood of steel
very nice subtle reference in the intro to a great survival horror game called "Signalis". It's the numbers broadcast spoken in german during the intro
I wish this video had chapters :(
See it as one big chapter 🤷🏻♂️
That’s good feedback, I’m going to incorporate a chapter structure for my long lore videos.
What happened to military units is a thing often overlooked or ignored by sci fi writers because it’s difficult, in regards to the fallout, the franchise refere to atomic bonbs not Hydrogen bombs so the fallout given a strictly atomic war would be absolutely survivable with fallout being far less than predicted in our own history, H bombs are significantly more powerful and destructive leaving the planet basically uninhabitable after a major exchange.