DAL Folding 5" prop

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • DAL Fold:
    5.1: bit.ly/3iwhf9B, bit.ly/2C5tmda
    6": bit.ly/2YXEgdK
    7": bit.ly/3grkoFP
    5 sets of the 6" deal: bit.ly/2NWaAHM
    List of possible folding prop advantages:
    -Easier transport
    -Possibly more durable, fold on impact
    -Possibly more safe, fold on impact
    -Safer turtle, won't bind motor upside down
    -NO MORE CUTTING FINGERS WHILE TIGHTENING PROPS!
    -Won't get stuck in trees as badly, folding blades
    (weed wacker have the same folding design so as to not get stuck on things)
    -More likely to save ESC's from stuck props
    -Potentially lighter with some design tricks
    -Possibly better response for unknown reasons
    -Possibly better efficiency, helicopter effect
    -Potentially cheaper to fabricate and buy
    -Potentially repairable/replaceable blades
    -Cheaper and easier to ship, store and transport
    List of disadvantages:
    -Less motor protection in crashes depending on how you hit
    -More complex albeit not hard to make just as or more reliable
    Lumenier folding prop: • Lumenier 6.7x3x3 Foldi...
    Original 5" folding prop video: • 5" Folding Miniquad Pr...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 434

  • @chrisballer78
    @chrisballer78 4 роки тому +151

    Everything is folding.... Phone, tablets, gov't economy 😂

    • @MrTopli
      @MrTopli 4 роки тому +3

      I was dying when he just kept going 🤣

    • @Jan-nd1hv
      @Jan-nd1hv 4 роки тому +1

      even money🤣

    • @InvertFPV
      @InvertFPV 4 роки тому

      That got me so good

    • @adrianantones4909
      @adrianantones4909 4 роки тому +1

      He got that right 😂

    • @rickcarlson1178
      @rickcarlson1178 4 роки тому

      That's too bad for people that rely on that crap

  • @Perforator2000
    @Perforator2000 4 роки тому +58

    Folding props might save ESCs since the motors are less likely to be fully stopped by obstructions.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +7

      yep definitely

    • @bakkiepleur_FPV
      @bakkiepleur_FPV 4 роки тому +5

      Smh... the change of burning an esc is so small.. if a motor is blocked by something it will shut off automatic..
      Those props are hella expensive..
      And you have multiple places where the plastic could break..
      For fpv drones this prop is nothing more than a expensive useless prop

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +14

      What if they were the same price....because they actually can be made cheaper for a number of reasons.
      List of possible folding prop advantages:
      -Easier transport
      -Possibly more durable, fold on impact
      -Possibly more safe, fold on impact
      -Safer turtle, won't bind motor upside down
      -NO MORE CUTTING FINGERS WHILE TIGHTENING PROPS!
      -Won't get stuck in trees as badly, folding blades
      (weed wacker have the same folding design so as to not get stuck on things)
      -More likely to save ESC's from stuck props
      -Potentially lighter with some design tricks
      -Possibly better response for unknown reasons
      -Possibly better efficiency, helicopter effect
      -Potentially cheaper to fabricate and buy
      -Potentially repairable/replaceable blades
      -Cheaper and easier to ship, store and transport
      List of disadvantages:
      -Less motor protection in crashes depending on how you hit
      -More complex albeit not hard to make just as or more reliable

    • @rickcarlson1178
      @rickcarlson1178 4 роки тому +1

      Can these props be purchased yet if so where

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +2

      @@rickcarlson1178 they're on the way. Next week

  • @angleofattack5942
    @angleofattack5942 4 роки тому +43

    “Governments are folding, economies are crumbling, and we now have a folding 5 inch prop.” Lol

  • @JoeMommaFPV
    @JoeMommaFPV 4 роки тому +1

    If they can make the blades interchangeable and not an arm and a leg for prop replacements I'm sold. I'll go folding props all day as long as i'm not burning 5 bucks every time I swap props. thanks for the info. I've been curious about these since I saw them posted about on facebook. Good video, as always you are the goto guy for prop review. you tell it straight and keep it real. I like that! Flossing RIGHT NOW, just for you sir. LOL

  • @tonybracco4471
    @tonybracco4471 4 роки тому +49

    Nooooo the “wall background with pool in background” background is gone... that was the best backdrop for videos

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +9

      I know, I know, sorry

    • @Temporal_Flux
      @Temporal_Flux 4 роки тому +8

      @@Kabab Maybe you could get a green screen and put the background in in post, LOL.

    • @tonybracco4471
      @tonybracco4471 4 роки тому +3

      @@Kabab Haha, thats ok. I love these videos of just talking quad theory and such because it escapes alot of the other hyped up crap that is posted by others. Thank you for the work you put into these videos

  • @licensetodrive9930
    @licensetodrive9930 4 роки тому +22

    I'm curious to see what those props look like in slow-mo when spinning up/down, like recorded with a camera at really high FPS. I wonder if the 240fps that many sportcams are capable of is fast enough.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +8

      if I ever get my new phone I'll find out.....well I have a hero 8 too.....maybe I'll stop being lazy

    • @Perforator2000
      @Perforator2000 4 роки тому +3

      I was thinking about that the other day when I was imagining reasons why folding props aren't already on everything. Can very fast changes in motor speed cause the props to fold a little bit? I imagine that wouldn't be desirable.

    • @licensetodrive9930
      @licensetodrive9930 4 роки тому +5

      ​@@Perforator2000 Looking at how smooth Bob's footage is in this video of his quad zipping up over/round trees with little difficulty, it could be that Betaflight naturally compensates for any minor mid-flight folding.

    • @Perforator2000
      @Perforator2000 4 роки тому +2

      I looked up a little bit about lead-lag on helicopters, just out of curiosity, because it might apply here. These props seem to fly well regardless, though, judging by this video.

  • @SgtScrewup000
    @SgtScrewup000 4 роки тому

    The clip of throwing the quad into the bag sold me

  • @Kabab
    @Kabab  4 роки тому +36

    This prop is not yet available.
    List of possible folding prop advantages:
    -Easier transport
    -Possibly more durable, fold on impact
    -Possibly more safe, fold on impact
    -Safer turtle, won't bind motor upside down
    -NO MORE CUTTING FINGERS WHILE TIGHTENING PROPS!
    -Won't get stuck in trees as badly, folding blades
    (weed wacker have the same folding design so as to not get stuck on things)
    -More likely to save ESC's from stuck props
    -Potentially lighter with some design tricks
    -Possibly better response for unknown reasons
    -Possibly better efficiency, helicopter effect
    -Potentially cheaper to fabricate and buy
    -Potentially repairable/replaceable blades
    -Cheaper and easier to ship, store and transport
    List of disadvantages:
    -Less motor protection in crashes depending on how you hit
    -More complex albeit not hard to make just as or more reliable
    Lumenier folding prop: ua-cam.com/video/_Y7OF-JC2zc/v-deo.html
    Original 5" folding prop video: ua-cam.com/video/oxFfRDKB9ek/v-deo.html
    Watch FPVCycle.com for new things 'coming soon'....albeit slowly due to the pandemic.
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    -Motor: bit.ly/2Nqqr25
    -ESC: bit.ly/2oDdzvL
    -WaFL’s Cap Cap: bit.ly/2GUpXxO
    -Battery: bit.ly/2JnsTDM
    -FC: bit.ly/2XRc8G8
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    -Vtx: bit.ly/38Y25oz
    -ND GoPro Mount 30deg: bit.ly/2WC15zc
    -ND Filter (if used): bit.ly/2WEmQ1j
    FPVCycle 1303: bit.ly/2y9I5BP (should be in stock on Apr, 4)
    Amax ET1303: bit.ly/2vPWgLB
    T-Motor 1303: No clue where this is sold
    ▼Notable motors:
    -Xing 2306: bit.ly/2Nqqr25
    -Xing 2208: bit.ly/2y3te8R
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    ▼Starter goggles: bit.ly/2qbJNOS
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    • @TheDroneNerd
      @TheDroneNerd 4 роки тому

      KababFPV that quad flies so smooth and steady!! I know the pilot has a lot to do with it but yea..👍

    • @jordigrau83
      @jordigrau83 4 роки тому

      take a look at this :) the same idea but DIY
      ua-cam.com/video/bYekoXGFcNs/v-deo.html

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      @@jordigrau83 yah someone else just sent it to me. Super cool.

    • @bmw-upgradech1665
      @bmw-upgradech1665 4 роки тому

      How about noise level?

    • @AdrenalineAshRC
      @AdrenalineAshRC 4 роки тому

      That’s awesome . Can’t wait for them to be available 😎

  • @daxdadog
    @daxdadog 4 роки тому

    I kept waiting with bated breath for a heavy sigh, but it never came....ding, ding, ding...I think we have a winner here!

  • @traviscook5144
    @traviscook5144 4 роки тому

    The turtle mode test is hilarious 🤣

  • @Temporal_Flux
    @Temporal_Flux 4 роки тому +1

    Well... I think the pros : cons ratio says it all. Very interested to see how these go. Unfortunately, I don't get to fly my 5-inch quads as much anymore (attracts too much attention from busy-bodies) but, I'm sure this could be applied to 3-inch (and smaller) props too.

  • @mooosestang
    @mooosestang 4 роки тому

    That's pretty cool to be able to have the props on and not in the way. Funny start to your video!

  • @dirtfpv
    @dirtfpv 4 роки тому

    I love watching raw video so much. Great info and all my questions were answered in the first minute.

  • @SecurityDivision
    @SecurityDivision 4 роки тому

    Best quad is the quad you have now and here. These props makes carrying quads so much easier so you can take it to more places and fly. So it makes you have your quad more often at hand :)

  • @dembones269
    @dembones269 4 роки тому

    This is a great idea, also mix and match colours would be super cool.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      yep can mix colors. the first batch we're getting will have neon yellow blades with a grey hub

  • @RYCOPZ
    @RYCOPZ 4 роки тому

    Was not expecting that result from Mr. Response! Might have to try some...definitely agree on the convenience thing.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 роки тому +7

    Really, really interesting props, Bob! 😮
    I can see lots of benefits for a folding prop, but if it flies that smooth... That's really amazing! 😃
    Stay safe there! 🖖😊

    • @NunoFlyer
      @NunoFlyer 4 роки тому

      Já pedi as minhas 😁

  • @K_Nasty
    @K_Nasty 4 роки тому

    I saw someone on here Woking on a 3d printed hub you can use broken props in. You would trim the regular prop so it has one good blade and put 3 together. Very cool

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      yeah saw that. Very cool idea

  • @dflyfpv8765
    @dflyfpv8765 4 роки тому +5

    i am going to try some when available, but i think they will be good for when doing shots while cruising. For freestyling i prefer to crash and bend the stif props to absorve energy. I am sure many bells won't like to get hitted directly while the blades folds. I am ok with replacing a bended blade that softened a possible hard crash.

  • @KrotowX
    @KrotowX 3 роки тому

    These props recently catched my interest when I started to restore my 5" quads. Seems I will order some of them for testing.

  • @gmivisualsjason3729
    @gmivisualsjason3729 4 роки тому +1

    I've had these props now for a week or so and put a good number of packs through.
    Yes they feel and fly great.
    Yes they seem to reduce Kwad deflections when hitting branches.
    I've found mine to be slightly too wide at the hub for the lock nuts to actually lock. So on heavy crashes I've had nuts come off Inc the prop.
    Also i believe the prop is less durable.
    I say this because each time I clip something the props clearly slam into either the hub or each other causing dents and even significant bends in the props.
    They are light and responsive and great to store... For me the main benefit.
    I've also found that I've caused more damage to my arms on crashes.... Normal props would act as a bumper on many occasions.
    Looking forward to seeing their development.

  • @paulr3556
    @paulr3556 4 роки тому

    Nice video as per normal.
    6 and 7inch versions arrived today, will try them over the weekend. Should be fun to see how good these are.
    Cheers

  • @TheRealMcCoy1975
    @TheRealMcCoy1975 4 роки тому

    All props aside Kbab is definitely so far my #1 pick for Pilot of the Year! Awesome Video /Skillz!!!

  • @Kevin.OBrien44
    @Kevin.OBrien44 4 роки тому +3

    I wanted to get those old folding props but they just weren’t developed enough. These though. Maybe

  • @jamiegerrard2129
    @jamiegerrard2129 4 роки тому

    Nice! Enjoy the flight at the end. What the heck 1414 the stall looks like you hit the pause button! 👍🏼

  • @MABdrone
    @MABdrone 3 роки тому

    Interesting concept, I hope that FPV Cycle can ship to Brazil!

  • @janowczarek5500
    @janowczarek5500 4 роки тому

    I pretty much fell in love with that prop and I will be buying it as soon as I can. For me the biggest advantage is economy, if you break a prop you could potentially replace only one or 2 blades and always keep flying with nice and fresh unbended props. Convenient quad size after filming is a major upgrade and safety when it comes to preventing ESC from burning is I guess crucial

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      they'll be on FPVCycle.com in about 2wks they say. We're thinking right now to make the hub such that once you snap it together you don't take it apart anymore. It's just easier to design that way.

    • @janowczarek5500
      @janowczarek5500 4 роки тому

      Do you think there’ll be any replacement blades available to buy? That would be a game changer for most of the pilots.

  • @crezzlin
    @crezzlin 4 роки тому

    I have been using the 6.7 inch on my GEP RC CROC 7 for months after your review for them and they fly so much better than any of my 7-inch rigid props even with a 3Ah 6s pack and GoPro Max 👌👍

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah 7" just starts to become a hassle to manage. Even just a little smaller is a lot less fuss

    • @crezzlin
      @crezzlin 4 роки тому

      I Agree :)

  • @hateeternalmaver
    @hateeternalmaver 4 роки тому

    Sounds pretty neat overall. Also that spot you flew looked very nice.

  • @kydawg1684
    @kydawg1684 4 роки тому

    The original prop you testeed was a Micro Heli prop that came out about 4 years ago.

  • @IanBeaty
    @IanBeaty 4 роки тому

    This is absolutely fascinating. Thanks for making a video for us about these!

  • @QuadDamageFPV
    @QuadDamageFPV 4 роки тому

    The Lumenier is a great prop, but if you aren't using popo, it's tricky to get the prop nut tight/loose enough to allow the props to flip out freely. Did you find tightening the nut on the DAL hub affected the props ability to flip out easily?
    Thanks geezer.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      zero issue with tightening on the DAL

  • @danielruth6540
    @danielruth6540 4 роки тому +1

    Kabab casually chopping some trees wirth props lol

  • @nonplayercharacter9653
    @nonplayercharacter9653 4 роки тому

    Congrats bro you played a big part in this

  • @StreamStationAlpha
    @StreamStationAlpha 4 роки тому

    Looks absolutely fantastic. I'd assume these have added reliability simply from the ability to fold pack when hitting excess resistance. That flight stability and weight etc? I'd switch my fleet over in a heartbeat.

  • @turboomni848
    @turboomni848 4 роки тому +2

    If you want to explore this ,you may want to do research into the RC Helicopter and full size Helicopter area with lead and lag of the blades with acceleration and deceleration as their blades are bolted at a fully flexible hinge point unlike a rigid mounted blade prop. From my rc heli experience bolt hold down tightness can make a big difference on performance all the way up to each blade being very small to 700 mm to full size. Too tight may cause vibs as well as too loose and everything in between. Balance is critical otherwise you will be chasing a hunch. Balance on a heli blade is much different . You do not dynamic balance a heli blade. In other words put them on a teeter todder scale. It will not work. There are a few more steps.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      I would assume it's that blade bending effect that's contributing to why the darn thing feels a lot more responsive than it seemingly should? I read about it but not sure it fully applies here

    • @turboomni848
      @turboomni848 4 роки тому

      @@Kabab I wished I had an answer for you not a hunch. Different can of worms here. On a collective pitch heli [as you know] blade rotation rpm is constant even as positive pitch is applied as well as negative pitch like when hovering upside down for lift. Quad copters obviously accelerate or decelerate the propellers only for different amounts of lift. {Fixed Pitch] Tightening and loosening blade grips would be interesting to try to see it's effects on lead and lag of the blades when changing throttle positions.. Obviously as close to the same tightness on every blade. You have a much wider range of centrifugal force because of the wide rpm range to affect lead/lag with very powerful motors that can spool up lightening fast.. Precision balancing would be interesting. [I balance my 1.9 inch on up to 12 inch quad props.} I would be very interested on your thoughts and results exploring this. You would do an excellent thorough job. You do great work and I always look forward to your videos.

  • @Aeliaty
    @Aeliaty 4 роки тому

    Hello Kabab! The pitch looks a bit high. I'm using 4.3 props, so probably I'll get less flight time and more "punch", right? Thanks for the review =D

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      Yes the pitch is definitely mid to high but it's actually not less efficient

  • @j.finesseflights1403
    @j.finesseflights1403 4 роки тому

    Oh crap...nice spot!! I gotta try those props!!

  • @Rcschim
    @Rcschim 4 роки тому

    Nice! When I saw these on FB I thought "rubbish" to be honest. Didnt think of all the possible advantages and would have never thought that they actually fly well.
    Now I feel so untrendy since I just uploaded my little freestyling around and testing Nepal props :) (only like 4months behind :)

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      I'm 100% with you. I would never have thought to consider them without testing the Lum 6.7" prop and then the 5" folding props from forever ago. Then I thought about it more and came up with all the possible advantages. They also feel a lot more responsive than they should. Almost feels like the motors can spin with nothing on them.

  • @MUNKYFPV
    @MUNKYFPV 4 роки тому

    Interesting for sure. Now I’m wondering if it would be possible to make a motor bell design that accepted prop blades? Not sure if they would need to be folding but imagine if you could produce a motor weighing about 30 grams that only had the weight of the blade section that produces thrust sticking out reducing overall motor/prop combo weight significantly.

  • @andywakelin1380
    @andywakelin1380 4 роки тому

    Very interested in trying this prop! Dal need to get those props into production so they can take more of my money!
    P.S I hope your new house has an equally pleasing garden to use as a background for your videos.

  • @power-max
    @power-max 4 роки тому

    One area I would expect the props to struggle is low speed, or if you use 3D mode where the blades will whip around the 0 RPM crossing point.
    The better response is probably due to less rotating inertia allowing the FC to have more control authority over the propellers, basically free D gain without the drawbacks of increasing D too far in software.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      I cannot even begin to guess how they would do with 3d. They kinda should be worse but they've proved me wrong enough times that I don't even bother second guessing anymore.

  • @davidvaknin3801
    @davidvaknin3801 4 роки тому

    Possibly better efficiency, helicopter effect
    how? please elaborate
    -Potentially cheaper to fabricate and buy
    how so? it has a hub and moving parts... wouldnt that be more expensive?
    -Potentially repairable/replaceable blades
    you really think pilots will start replacing blades in the field?
    thank you for great video. any idea when will it be available ?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      The helicopter effect is that the advancing blade swings out a bit to exaggerate the rotation and retreating blade folds back and reduces drag. This increases potential response and efficiency.
      Cheaper because the hub is one mould and the blade is another. Both are very small moulds and there's almost no balancing needed since all blades will come from the same mould. So no need to remake moulds. Small moulds are a LOT cheaper to make.
      What we're discussing now is that once you snap the hub together, you won't take it apart anymore. So just the first time you choose your blades.
      The props are on the way right now to us and probably every store out there...

  • @rickwinjester9706
    @rickwinjester9706 4 роки тому +1

    When will they be available?
    Thanks Rick

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      DAL says we'll have them in about two weeks. I think it'll be more like 3-4 due to the pandemic

    • @rickwinjester9706
      @rickwinjester9706 4 роки тому

      Ok thanks.
      Great review

  • @m.s.aviation7065
    @m.s.aviation7065 4 роки тому +1

    Do you have any old five inches you don't want or need??? I want a five inch.... those look like legit props though

  • @in4bliss
    @in4bliss 4 роки тому

    Can't wait to try these! Thanks once again for the info and insight 👍🏽💯😎

  • @j_de_ese
    @j_de_ese 4 роки тому

    Great video, can't wait to try em.

  • @brandonwoodford579
    @brandonwoodford579 4 роки тому

    Hey Kabab. how are you doing? hope all is well. i have the same question i always ask. what version of BF are you running in this video? are you still using 3.5.7 on mostly all 5" builds?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      Still on 3.5.7. Not a fan of anything higher. Actually moving more and more to Emuflight too. With the new Dynamic Rates they've added I'm switching pretty much everything over to Emu. It's truly amazing

  • @manateekida1484
    @manateekida1484 4 роки тому

    I think they can make folding props lighter because they can use lighter material for the core because it needs to handle other forces than the prop. Interesting is that therefore the "center" of Mass is more on the outside of the blade but i think thats not a problem because the faster responding core is dragging the heavier blade with it. That would also reduce die Center of Mass Diameter wich makes them faster faster. Maybe.

  • @aliasrandom9241
    @aliasrandom9241 4 роки тому +4

    Can we please consider inventing Bi-blade 3" folding props? i think there is a huge market for that and some potentially large benefits

  • @jpsalis
    @jpsalis 4 роки тому

    I should really be working on schoolwork, but goddamn that's exciting. Just got out to fly my first 5" quad recently, something like this would be really cool.

  • @nikfpv3456
    @nikfpv3456 4 роки тому

    I don't quite understand how these work. So its just centrifugal force that keeps them unfolded? I'm surprised air resistance doesn't counter that.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      yep. I'm just as surprised as anyone in a high stress situation like a miniquad

  • @bryd7203
    @bryd7203 4 роки тому

    Very interesting. Would love to try them.

  • @kendosfpv1913
    @kendosfpv1913 4 роки тому

    Hey Kabab, one thing you didn`t mention in this video is that maybe having a prop like this will result in less vibration due to the blades being looser at the hub attachment therefore transmitting less of that vibration to your gyros?Just my theory!

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      could be.

  • @picudo
    @picudo 4 роки тому +1

    For my 7 inch would be awesome.

  • @fpvraver
    @fpvraver 4 роки тому

    I believe that they are lighter in the hub because it’s not a chunk of material it’s basically a top plate and a bottom plate. I also believe that they should make that top plate and bottom plate carbon fiber.

  • @Clif_Brown
    @Clif_Brown 4 роки тому

    Great video and flying. Very cool props! I want to try some of those when available. Wonder if they will go down a small as 3" folding props?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      The 5" are supposed to be at FPVCycle.com in about 2 wks

    • @Clif_Brown
      @Clif_Brown 4 роки тому

      @@Kabab Cool. Thanks

    • @mrb2917
      @mrb2917 4 роки тому

      They said on their facebook page they're doing a 3in version, they were asking people what pitch they wanted them in

  • @iballiano
    @iballiano 4 роки тому

    Impressive performance!

  • @peterzingler6221
    @peterzingler6221 4 роки тому

    The giant hub of the folding prop has a big problem. Its blocking airflow into the motot. Would be interesting to see how this affects motor temp.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      It's very unlikely to make any difference. It's not like air is not all around. But a valid concern

  • @SKIDOOSH
    @SKIDOOSH 4 роки тому

    They told me they are going to make 7 inch also. Very interesting indeed!

  • @BuzZ.
    @BuzZ. 4 роки тому

    Nice would be to have the center hub part of the motor to save weight

  • @scottmarshall6766
    @scottmarshall6766 4 роки тому

    Just got my Quad box. wow. These things are impressive!! 6" please!! (yes, we always want MORE) deal with it...

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      Just added links to the description...

  • @mkunakoff
    @mkunakoff 4 роки тому

    So I got a few sets of these, and I don't know if I goofed or not. One of the hubs I assembled upside down. Do you see this as an issue? They are tough to take apart.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      Upside down isn't an issue but a wrong blade will be 😅

  • @MANTA_FPV
    @MANTA_FPV 4 роки тому

    This looks daamn interesting 👍🏻 By the way do you know how long the popo patent is running so that finally other motor manufacturers can implement it? Bacause we are getting every props with popo but cannot use it.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      no idea. I'd assume at least a decade. POPO is good but it's also got some minor issues. I still love it but I'll stick to the traditional M5 shaft for now

  • @IshamPadron
    @IshamPadron 4 роки тому

    I would like to see a folding 8in prop. I think it makes more sense in larger builds as well.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      yes definitely

  • @vesselfpv8274
    @vesselfpv8274 4 роки тому

    So... Why hasn't it been done before on miniquads? I always thought props needed to be stiff so they would be able to handle fast changes in motor rpm or something, but evidently not

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      There isn't really a good answer for that.

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 4 роки тому

    Lmao I love your presentation reel hahaha. It reminds me of your fpv backpack review

  • @rithiksawant
    @rithiksawant 4 роки тому

    I like this setup better. Your voice echoes and it sounds better in my opinion

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      I'm gonna work on the echo actually but the setup is a lot easier to record in because I don't have to wait for stupid dogs to stop barking

  • @pkvillager
    @pkvillager 4 роки тому

    I doo like the idea of folding props for traveling. I think they must be easier to tighten prop nuts without almost cutting my hand lol I also wonder if some of the performance comes from extending the scoop of the airfoil out a little further from the motor bell.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      omg I forgot about that. SO MUCH EASIER!

    • @pkvillager
      @pkvillager 4 роки тому

      KababFPV this is a major concern for those with baby soft hands like me lol

  • @pavalige
    @pavalige 4 роки тому

    They look pretty responsive Bob I enjoyed that little bit o fs been a while since I have :)

  • @djs134
    @djs134 4 роки тому

    Completely off topic but have you tried the 15 dollar flight one falcox firmware on your Diatone board tp3? I have a Diatone 339 pro on the way and from what I’m seeing online the falcox firmware makes it amazing, “just don’t use quopa mode or whatever they call turtle mode”.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      I have. It's cool. Setup is super nice. Performance isn't especially different however. At least not on the small things. But it's good

  • @diveflyfish
    @diveflyfish 4 роки тому

    Thats funny and poetic, folding economies! Do you attribute the prop being super responsive with strict RPM ramp up or actual move acceleration? Very Very cool. I have the lumeniers foldable and its very nice to be able to keep things smaller when transporting. Thanks for the review!

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      I actually have no clue why it feels more responsive than it should. I can't even begin to guess.

  • @ollie_fpv9260
    @ollie_fpv9260 4 роки тому

    look good. especially for turtle in tight space. do they have a release date?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      the props will be at FPVCycle.com in about 2wks or so they tell me

  • @poastoast
    @poastoast 4 роки тому +3

    I will get these props as soon as they’re available 😤
    how long ‘til a folding quad?

    • @edgeted8772
      @edgeted8772 4 роки тому

      poastoast mavic

    • @Haitchpeasauce
      @Haitchpeasauce 4 роки тому

      Tomoquads Katana v1 is a folding 4" frame and watching it in action shows it's more of a hassle than a feature. Folding props improve portability significantly, there is no setup work involved, I think this is a great idea.

    • @MB3Drift
      @MB3Drift 4 роки тому

      poastoast that’s no new, in fact pretty old, search for « jpay quad » and « jpay spider » and see for yourself^^

    • @Haitchpeasauce
      @Haitchpeasauce 4 роки тому

      @@MB3Drift Yeah neither folding frames or folding props are new ideas but they're becoming accepted in the hobby. Folding props would be more beneficial to the hobby to become widespread.

    • @TOTHETOMBANDBACKGAMING
      @TOTHETOMBANDBACKGAMING 4 роки тому

      Moka foldable frame. Pretty old 👀

  • @rowanballinger3690
    @rowanballinger3690 4 роки тому

    Hey kabab I wanted to ask you what you think is the most quiet 5 inch prop with still decent performance

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      The lightest, slowest 5" will be the quietest 5". Weight and power directly relates to noise in this case.

  • @billybbob18
    @billybbob18 4 роки тому

    Make the blades changeable and I'm in on a set for sure.

  • @deckyrizkiadi
    @deckyrizkiadi 4 роки тому

    This is interesting and good to have. Just curious, what are the disadvantages?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      so far this is what I've come up with
      List of disadvantages:
      -Less motor protection in crashes depending on how you hit
      -More complex albeit not hard to make just as or more reliable

  • @bengmo64
    @bengmo64 4 роки тому +2

    I had that problem with turtle mode on one of my quads. I updated the ESC firmware and that fixed it.

  • @nikotttin
    @nikotttin 4 роки тому

    Do you think we’ll ever see this in 2-4’’ sizes?
    Would be cool!

  • @capturefpv9799
    @capturefpv9799 4 роки тому

    I had the exact same issue with my turtle mode a few months back, no real idea what it was though. Ended up swapping the stack out for an aikon setup

  • @mercybeat
    @mercybeat 4 роки тому

    Two questions. When are the frames going to be in stock? When are the motors going to be instock?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      frames have been in shipping for SIX WEEKS! Motors are also shipped, just waiting to move. Been 3 days now.... :-(

  • @switchflip9550
    @switchflip9550 4 роки тому

    I see that they are available would they be good enough to buy into in their current state of finish?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      Yeah these have been the only props I've been using since this video. They're great. Also on the way to us right now too. We should have them in stock at FPVCycle next week.

  • @fullthrottlefpv5616
    @fullthrottlefpv5616 4 роки тому

    I used to have the same issue with turtle mode - try updating your esc firmware, that worked for me

  • @spartan-fpv6936
    @spartan-fpv6936 4 роки тому

    Gday Bob, great idea and looks like they would save esc's and maybe even motors, the only thing is cost and weight if racers are trying to build light weight miniquads every gram matters as you always tell us for micro's same can be said for racers,, full marks for innovation mate.👍🛸

  • @mxrz
    @mxrz 4 роки тому

    Since the surface of the blade that generates downward thrust starts well outside the diameter of the motors, does it perhaps hinder motor cooling, since there is now less air flow coming down through the openings in the bell top?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      maybe? Dunno

  • @letsgofast1187
    @letsgofast1187 4 роки тому

    From what I've heard you should update bl heli to the latest version on those ecs and that should fix turtle mode

  • @therealmikek
    @therealmikek 4 роки тому +2

    definitely trying these out when theyre available

  • @JaydenLawson
    @JaydenLawson 4 роки тому

    Interesting! Thanks for the review

  • @kkkkkkkkkk421
    @kkkkkkkkkk421 4 роки тому

    Something new and interesting prop to try. finally 😂

  • @avidonsaadatfar4518
    @avidonsaadatfar4518 4 роки тому

    Was the intro filmed at Woodley park in the LA valley?

  • @rickcarlson1178
    @rickcarlson1178 4 роки тому

    So cool in more ways than one. I have two fresh builds i want to run these on, A slam nasty for race and a marmotte 5.5 for freestyle both running FalcoX . this should be sweeeeeeet, can't wait and warm weather is here! strap my happy ass to a bull LOL, Thanks again for the heads up!

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 4 роки тому +25

    Lmao Kabab is the conspiracy master, he pulls all the strings and get all the companies developing and competing and we win in the end

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +8

      thus my goal :-)

    • @testaccount4191
      @testaccount4191 4 роки тому +2

      Sadly i think a lot of these companies just outright steal his ideas

    • @rc-fannl7364
      @rc-fannl7364 4 роки тому +1

      Strings as in dental floss? ;-)

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      @@testaccount4191 they do. as long as I have community support things will move forward however

    • @brandohim
      @brandohim 4 роки тому +1

      KababFPV you have the utmost support. I think you are the number one soldier in our hobby/ lifestyle. Thank you for everything up to now, and for future endeavors. You are exceptionally top shelf. FPVCYCLE is directly on the pulse of our needs.

  • @OliFPV
    @OliFPV 4 роки тому

    Die Idee find ich richtig gut 🤙 lg 🍀

  • @licensetodrive9930
    @licensetodrive9930 4 роки тому

    I guess one of the worries of making a prop that's too resistant to damage is that you won't be replacing them often, sort of like in the 1951 film "The Man in the White Suit" where someone invents a fabric that's impervious to dirt, businesses and the workforce realise this could put them out of a job... it's a great film.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому +1

      yes but no. Our requirements go up. We start changing props because the edges get damaged or scuffed.

    • @licensetodrive9930
      @licensetodrive9930 4 роки тому

      I fly props until they're damaged enough to ruin smooth flights.
      What looks very appealing is being able to replace individual blades, a long lasting prop set could consist of 6 hubs with 24 CW & 24 CCW blades, equivalent to 4 whole sets that take up very little backpack space.

  • @haythamfpv
    @haythamfpv 4 роки тому

    let gemfan make a folding biblade johnny prop and we'll all fly cubes of butter

  • @EdturdEnfart
    @EdturdEnfart 4 роки тому

    They make these for a toothpick?

  • @bongofury3176
    @bongofury3176 4 роки тому

    it's important to get a reference - so how many toliet rolls are they worth?

  • @jdmiata9310
    @jdmiata9310 4 роки тому

    Couldn’t you technically integrate the hub into the motor bell, so that you only hat to change the individual blades?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab  4 роки тому

      yep but making it a standard would be quite difficult

  • @user-hw3vv2sw6w
    @user-hw3vv2sw6w 4 роки тому +4

    This kinda reminds me of the Lumenier folding props that you made a video about 1 year ago

  • @zippycfpv3619
    @zippycfpv3619 4 роки тому

    Neat stuff!!! And they seem to function!!! 😎👍