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Vintage Guitar Authentication: 1958 Fender Stratocaster
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2018
- Hey everyone! Today we're heading back to the bench to take a brief look at vintage guitar authentication with our very own Liz Herrin. Liz takes apart an awesome all-original 1958 Fender Stratocaster...with factory gold hardware...to help show you a few things to look for when checking out a Strat from this era. Of course, there are hours upon hours worth of information that could be said on the topic, but we figured this would be a good place to start!
For more information about the guitar, please check out:
www.emeraldcity...
I'd bet good money that it came from Bonamassa's collection. Pretty sure he owns at least 40% of the vintage guitar market.
David! Thanks for tuning in... Joe has some incredible stuff however, this one did not stem from his collection!
This channel has become my new addiction. I wish I could live inside this store.
My guess would be Mike McCready
Yet! LOL
I'd bet Joe's endorsement with Ernie Ball wouldn't appreciate those D'Addario strings...
Liz! such a badass! I always learn something when I stop & listen to you
A piece of cardboard would be better to keep the screws in. So they go back into the same holes. The screws on the upper pickguard will wear more than the lower,
Great idea! We keep the bolt screws in order for similar reasons... Thanks for the great tip!
LarryUK good piece of advice
Mario Zamprogno if you look at 25s the pick guard screw to the left is shiny and to the right is corroded.
I thought the same. Use a piece of foam and stick them into it in the order that they came out of the guitar.
Also was thinking the same. Maybe they can still be put back by looking at the video or photos 👍🏻
Very nicely done. I gotta get up to Emerald City Guitar sometime soon and say hello to Jay, absolutely one of the most knowledgable guitar dealers in the business and an all round good guy!
That was great. I bet you don't see many Guitars from the 50s/60s in such a clean state. I was reminded of my teenage years as you clipped the old strings off, "we were so poor we unwound ours and cleaned them and kept em as spares or put them on other instruments, even gave em to our pals when need be" we valued every bit of gear we had here in UK cos in the 70s we were seriously skint...then Fender Squier appeared and Ibanez les pauls which launced a thousand new wavers into the world of Music. Thanks for showing us that lovely plank!
Love the recent uploads!! What an awesome place filled with cool people. Great vibes. 😎
SO cool! Thanks Liz & Emerald City Guitars what a beautiful thing to see.
My '57 neck and body are also dated April and May with "FT" initialed beside the 4/57, 5/57 in the trem rout.
Nowhere near the same condition though! It was a worn out wreck when I got it near fifty years ago but still loved and cherished.
I just found an all original 1958 Fender Stratocaster in my very small, rural town. The ladies late husband bought it at a garage sale in 1981 and stored it in its original case inside their bedroom closet. Thank you for this video because I am getting ready to buy it and checked most of the things that you did but did not black light it. I learned something new from this video, so thank you!
Thanks Liz! Great job. I appreciate your knowledge.
nice job Liz. one critique for you maybe to add to your experience. when you remove the screws from a vintage pick guard they should not go into a cup. you need to make a jig/body dummy to keep track of the screws original location. otherwise good job.
Best Emerald City video, so far. Less bro-y frothing. More useful substance. Thank you, Liz.
I love this!!!! Please do more 😀 I like how you guys go into a lot of detail 😀
1958 was -- best I know and remember -- the first year for the cherry sunburst finish. It was also the last year for the maple neck, which would not come back around again until perhaps the early '70s. So in that regard, this was both a first for Fender and a last for Fender, and they were combined into one year. This model/year can be seen on the cover of The Ventures second album, in the hands of Don Wilson. IIRC, the bassist had it's Precision Bass counterpart, with same cherry sunburst finish and maple board. Fenders, in my humble opinion, are the only guitars where GOLD plating actually enhances the instrument, rather than makes it gaudy, as with Gibsons and Gretsches. And again, IIRC, those frets were slid in from the side back then ... And SUPER nice job, Miss Liz!
Early 59s had maple
Three tone sunburst in Fender language.
Lost me at the smell test but that’s ok 😂 you should do a 1954-55 Strat, I love these videos!!
maybe a little obsessive but when I pull the pickguard off i place the screws in the position where they would be on the guard, so the original screws go back in their original holes.
Super cool! Enjoyed playing that baby and meeting you Liz! See you next time.
Well done Liz! I learned so much!!
I really enjoyed that but I think if I was taking the guitar apart the screws coming out of the pic guard would go back in exactly the same holes as they came out of ❤️
I bought a Tele there and Liz set it up. My god, her work was great! She set the bar on setups for me.
Love this! Great video topics and so well done. I’m continually impressed at how cool this shop is!
Thanks Liz & Jay. Looking forward to seeing more of this series. T.L.
I'm glad you are doing the authenticate stuff on guitars keep it up
Great video Liz! You ROCK!
One way in my book to know for sure...spectrographic analysis , bought lots of lap steels from different years and in different colours...so i just take a bit of the lap paint, a bit from the guitar interior cavity , send it to the lab and BOOM if you are lucky the curve should be just about the same...that is how I keep away the forgers. is reliable and cheap, compared to certain guitars...that particular strat looks too clean...if its real is a huge discovery. congrats !!!
Liz shouldn't you put the screw back in the same holes of the cover?
Looks like this guitar just had a b day . Very cool . I wish I had your skill and experience. It's a jungle out there ..knowledge is power
Awesome work. Learned about pot dates. Highly knowledgeable, explained everything well, and was very charming. Look forward to more.
Many wise comments on screw location. I like how you did not use a power screwdriver. I think you are very smart, great video. Gorgeous old guitar!
That was great information love the history on vintage gear
Definitely do more of these please!
This is awesome! That girl knows her guitars. Very detailed. I learned alot. This was very informative.
Great video and workmanship.. nice to see someone using a manual screw driver instead of a power tool.. there is a time and a place for those, and it's not on a '58 Strat!!!!
That would be a SWEET job!
5 star great job keep up your great work! Music is good for people who have a talent
Just discovered these videos. Thanks so much for posting.
What a fantastic video... Keep the quality content coming!
The holes in the neck are from the screws holding the template for the outline rout.
How do these so called experts miss these details.
You can see them doing it on video in the fender factory in 57
More of these videos please.
Great vid. Really well done. I’d love to see similar authentications of a 50s LP Special or Junior (I’ll understand if you don’t want to do a Burst 😉)
You didn't talk about the serial number. Though you did say, you'd get into that in a little bit.
realy good video! your channel must be one of the best channels on youtube when it comes to vintage guitars :)
I love to watch, butt there one thing I bother, all the screws are put in a tray and mixed up??? You never know which screw belongs to which hole again. That's painfull to see
In case of variety of wear and patina, overall good video
I wish you could smell through UA-cam... they should bottle that up and sell it as cologne!
very nice video. loved this woman 🥰💐🤠🐺🐻🐯🦈🏹⚔️
Thanks guys......I can check some points on a 63 that i own....👍
great video, thanks ECG, I knew about the adjustment screw tell but didn't know the truss rods were actually gold plated too..triple bonus points. were there any QC signatures?
There were no signatures or initials written on this one. Thanks for watching!
I noticed when you took the screws out of the pick guard you put them in a container. I’ve watched other people authentic guitars. They have jigs and put them in a numbered order so they go back into the holes they took them out of.
She has my dream job.
Liz Herrin , very Beautiful !!!!
Just a really minor point, but the serial number on the neck plate is stamped, not etched.
5:57 I’m confused. Is that a pin hole where finish came out. Left of Jack plate?
Great job .. Thanks
I couldn’t set foot in this store without the feeling i’d be massively overpaying for everything.
Yes. They DO seem to demand primo dough ...
Love it.
very cool!
I'm in LOVE !
Great video!
What kinda scoundrel would counterfiet a fine instrument such as this
Nice! Thanks!
I can't decide which one I love more , the Strat or Liz ...Lol ... Good vid ...
Old habits are hard to break especially with vintage instruments.
Amazing guitar and such a great video!! One question: How would one go about authenticating vintage Strat (or Tele) pickups on the market today? For someone who wants to drop a vintage pickup into their guitar, how do you ensure you're actually getting what you believe to be buying? Reputation of dealer would help but what if you see something from an individual for sale on a site such as Reverb.com - how can you do your homework in this situation?
Nice back rub creepo
Who out there still have their string ashtray? Had one once on an el degas in 1979 - pickguard looks new though
0:11...Hey Max Headroom, nice way to creep her out with that unwanted back rub...cringe.
Bonamassa or EJ. Either way what a freakin guitar. Wow.
good presenter!
Wow that guitars neck date is one month apart from Buddy Holly’s last Stratocaster most likely at the factory at At the same time at some point
Its shame she didnt check for the 1/8 inch dowel holes on the front and back of the body and also she didnt know why the dowel holes where evident on the back of the neck at the heel and under the D tuner. They werent to paint the neck, its how the pin router shaped the initial outline if you look on a left hand Strat the hole under the D tuner is actually on the front of the headstock showing that a left hand Strat started out life as a right hander but flipped over and the fretboard glued to the rear!!!!
There really is no reason you could not say who it once belonged too. As long as you do not reveal the serial number which i am surprised you did i dont see anything wrong with stating the history of an iconic instrument.
Dids it ever occur to you that the owner may be the one who didn't want himself identified?
you guys should do that on a 59 LP.
Thanks for your reply.I fully understand that your potential customers will want to know a guitar like this 100% stock. It was not meant to be a criticism only I would not have mixed up the scratch plate screws. And at least she wasn't using a power driver to take the guitar apart as did the Fender custom shop did when they dismantled Eric Clapton's Blackie! (Watch the video) I enjoy your Chanel and appreciate your response.
Great video , love watching this type of thing , especially with fender Stratocaster’s or telecasters ! It’s so cool that a nice looking lady does it too (without trying to be creepy) as it’s usually an old ugly fella ! Thumbs up and subbed !
I am jealous of Liz
Is that a 3 way switch also?
Kyle Alm they all were back then
It kind of looks like it's in Neck-Middle when the video starts, can't really tell. I can't identify the switch based on the prongs at 4:22, looking at 3 way and 5 way switches, it looks like they both have four. I don't think it was an uncommon mod.
Just like the one the Master of the Stratocaster played Buddy Holly
Is this guitar.for.sale?
"from a very high profile guitarist that i can't mention"
Darrien Day
Hey there buddy your still at it eh?
Your fingers hard these days?lol
always, my friend
So gorgeous... neat guitar too:)
Matthew Scott looks different in this one.
More videos like this!))
Fat tremolo block?
Knobs and PU covers glow under blacklight = made of nylon, not polystyrene or ABS. 58, so legit.
Didn’t go back to the serial number and you should always put the screws back into the original hole which once they came from!
Did he say Mary Kay?
www.fender.com/articles/gear/cult-classic-the-mary-kaye-stratocaster
OH.... Bet I am not the only one picturing a pink Mary Kay cosmetics Stratocaster. That's very different no the Hello Kitty looking thing I was expecting
That was my first impression too
The sniff test is a bit strange one some of the grime I have found in old instruments is a shocker
gloves are a prerequisite hear why pop the neck ??
From what I heard about Fender's concern about costs the gold plated rod is a stretch!
Never ever pull the neck. Screws get sloppy just like this one. Leave it up to the buyer with an accepted offer. Also never mix up the pickguard screws, they wear in different fasions acvording to how it was played. Never mess with the trussrod unless the neck needs an adjustment. Leave the verification up to the buyer. Nobody wants a gutted circulated guitar.
It's a shame actually to pop a neck off that is original and never been removed. Not to mention removing tuners, and disassembling everything else etc :(
Please stop moving the light source when on close up shots.
You are not shooting commercial
It’s WAY OVER USED on your channel. It prevents viewers from appreciating the details of the close up.
$50-80k easy
But if the guitar wuz heavily played, wouldn't that smell be a bit aah... gamey?
Thats a bootyful guitar
Don't mentionomassa the name!😏
The natural neck colour doesn't seem right on a vintage guitar. Not disagreeing with it's authenticity, but usually they are stained.
Joe Bonamassa says if you don't know or unsure about the guitar don't buy it...he totally disagrees with tearing them apart to look at neck dates and pot dates...
Take it apart? Gulp! Can one name sure the screws go back in in the exact same "thread catch?? . I've taken apart modern cheap copies that plated ok offer a good setup only to be scrappy after taking off and returning the neck. On an old axe like that, if it played great, I'd not want to keep the collectors value while not returning it to its playing great production.
I don't agree in taking original guitars to pieces. and she threw the screws in a box mixing them up so they don't go back in the original holes. my advice would be to only disassemble a vintage guitar for a necessary repair. also be extremely careful taking the neck off, it's really easy to damage the finnish.
Unfortunately that's unrealistic considering 99% of people buying guitars of this caliber would like to know what's under the hood... Liz has taken apart thousands of vintage/modern guitars and is well aware of how to do so, but we appreciate your input! Thanks for watching Martin!
Oh brother...🙄
This guitar came from Steven Seagals collection
fuck that fat clown
He needs the money to go to Russia.
The other screw in the pickups switch is not "original" I can tell just by looking at it..;)
My point is, even these people can assure that every tiny bits of this guitar is all original, come on, people ! This is the internet, anything could happen...:D
Beauty strat, but even beauty The Lady.
What a lovely lady. The guitar’s nice too!