Valve clearance | Follow up | 20000 kms | The importance to do it at Compression Stroke TDC
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2021
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So just some more blabber for the curious ones to do a DIY and why RE recommends clockwise rotation when common knowledge tells us to do it anti clockwise :)
Also trying to show how to get this done based on the markings on the crank wheel magneto. To be honest I have still missed out on few in depth basics, maybe next time i do it I will try to share those. But hopefully this will cover most of the important bits :D
Cheers
Hey
So just some more blabber for the curious ones to do a DIY and why RE recommends clockwise rotation when common knowledge tells us to do it anti clockwise :)
This time I am trying to show how to get this done based on the markings on the crank wheel magneto. To be honest I have still missed out on few in depth basics, maybe next time i do it I will try to share those. But hopefully this will cover most of the important bits :D
Cheers
@noel shenz hey mate, gt535 is equipped with hydraulic push load adjustment, so the way push road operates is different in gt 535 than the cam chain operated one on himalayan.
Basically if you are having issues on gt 535 the hydraulic might need replacement. It can't be adjusted like in the above vid.
But if you are just curious on how to find compression, idea is same, remove tank, remove the top casings on the head to gain access to rocker arm and follow the cycles by rotating crank by putting bike in 3 or 4 gear with hand when engine is off.
But just to be clear as mentioned earlier the tappet can't be adjusted like shown in above vid. Cheers
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Hahaha, I thank you for your kind words mate, too kind :) Just trying to share little I know with like minded fellow riders like yourself who enjoy taking care of their rides ;) Cheers
😍 MY Dronacharya you shoot it and explain it so perfectly. Hats off to your camera skills.
Hahaha ;) Thanks bro and trust me its all bcos of support. So thanks again for sticking thus far 😊 I am still learning vid edit skills. I did miss out a few points still, will cover them on next one. Cheers :)
Your explanations are superb. Thank you again. No need to apologise. The detail you go into is just what most of us need.
Thanks for your kind words mate, i am glad you find them useful 🙂
Who needs a manual with these brilliant videos well done mate.
Hahaha, thanks mate, just sharing little thing i know as I go along doings these DIYs, I am really glad you found it useful, cheers :)
great video. You got it in one, the reason your turn it clockwise is that magneto hold down bolt can come undone if you turn it anti clockwise. Its unlikely but I have experienced it on another big single banger, and it cost me a lot to fix.
They are only done up to 60 lbs/ft (81 NM) so its very easy to loosen it slightly when adjusting tappets. You might not fully loosen it, but you can partially loosen it which then allows the engine power pulses to loosen it the rest of the way. Result, not nice.
Another tip, when you have it at TDC compression, put the spark plug in a few turns just to stop any dirt you might dislodge falling in the cylinder.
I also agree with the other posters, the tappets do move when tightening the nut. I now know by how much, even if I'm holding the adjuster tool tightly I set my gap to allow for the movement and when I re-check after tightening its within spec. Thats experience, it can't be taught, but getting familiar with your bike allows you to understand how your particular engine reacts when you work on it.
Thanks mate, true, there is always the chance of loosening it, hasnt happened to me but I have heard of cases aplenty, doesnt take much effort. :) about the tappet too, yes its more of a feel thing. I wanted to show the tappet, i even unwinded it completely to explain, but the vid was getting too long, next time I do it, i' try to cover that aswell. Some say its a hassle but to be honest I have gotten used to tappets and more comfortable then shims. reminds me of old REs with pushrods, in terms of simplicity they were and still are my favorite ones to play around on :D cheers
I was looking for a video that described the way these things work. I have already done my valve adjustment, but this was very informative. Appreciate the no-nonsense to the point. "smashing" that subscribe button.
Thanks for your king words mate, i know i could have worked and made the vid shorter and palatable, laziness i blame, among other things.
This mod has kept the bike happy though, there have been times or rather days when i feel that if i had not done it, probably it wouldnt have started after say a few days of being parked with lockdowns and all. Stay safe
Yup, do I never get old or bored with these videos. Keep it coming buddy!
Hahaha, and I thank you for encouraging me time and again mate, Cheers :)
I did it wrong on mine following the service manual, but your video was the ticket to adjust properly. Thank you!
It's my pleasure mate, thanks and happy DIYing. Cheers 🙂
Very informative clear instructions
Thanks mate🙂 I am glad you found it useful. Cheers
Well, youve done it again, brilliantly. Thanks, really good clear instructions.
Thanks again mate and thanks for sticking around thus far :) I am still trying to learn the editing part, unfortunately few details were still missed. Next time 🙃 nothing major was lost though. Hope it makes the DIY simpler. Cheers:)
G'day from Australia, thanks for the great videos.
I have found them really helpful
Thanks mate, I am glad you found these videos useful. Have a good one and happy DIYing. cheers :)
I just adjusted the valves on my Scram 411 after the 300 mile break in period. I was able to use the box end of a 10mm wrench for the lock nut and a pair of hemostats for the top square adjusting nut.
Thank you. Excellent work.
Brilliant
Thank you 🙏
Thanks mate, I am glad you found this useful🙂 cheers
Brilliant! thank you sir, will attempt this weekend.
Thanks mate, its my pleasure and I hope this comes in handy, happy DIYing, cheers :)
Superb, clear and crisp instructions! I've moved to KTM now but still love watching your videos! 😊
Thanks for your kind words mate, truly motivating. And congrats on the new purchase, brilliant machine, i am slightly curious as to what made you to switch though :) cheers
@@leuheanrede i've been riding an Enfield for 12 years (cast iron 350) and I was spending more time maintaining rather than riding. I know RE's bikes have certain inherent issues so I wanted something with less hassle. The 390ADV is perfect for that - long tours, medium offroads etc...
Though KTM bikes have their own set of issues I realised LOL!
@@RoadAheadWithAJ hahaha. They all come with a baggage :) but a great machine no less. Have a good one ;)
Your Channel is amazing!
Thanks for the quality information :)
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Thanks mate, I am glad you found them useful, happy DIYing, cheers :)
Brilliant work 👍👍
Thank you sis, glad you are enjoying these, cheers :)
Hi sir well said with block diagram thank you so much
Thanks mate, I am glad you found this useful 🙂 cheers
Good one bro, very useful to DIY mates 😊😊
Thanks mate, I am glad you are finding these vids useful, cheers :)
Hi Bro Its a joy watching your videos.Gives an insight of your bike.Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge,because knowledge shared is Knowledge gained.Keep pouring your knowledge and quench the thirst of every Himalayan bike owners.
Thank you mate, you are being very kind :) i just share simple details for fellow riders to enjoy their rides, trouble free. I am glad you found these useful. Cheers :)
@@leuheanrede If that is simple then what is complicated😊but certainly explained in a simple language.Believe me friend,your videos have been a great help understanding my bike.If you are on Facebook then please post your videos on Himalayan Biker groups.I am sure it will help all the riders who want to know more about their bikes.😊👍🏼
@@psrajcam thanks a ton mate :) unfortunately I don't understand Facebook 😕 so nothing there :)
@@leuheanrede Hope you won't mind if I share your videos on FB.Will be a great help to the riding community there.
After watching several times, now i know how to adjust the tappets.
Really helpful! 😁
Quite informative...thanks 👍🏼
Thanks mate, I am glad you found this useful, happy DIYing :)
good detailed instructions.
Thanks mate, just kinda felt like sharing and maybe it will clarify some of the doubts flowing around, cheers :)
I have BS6 2021 Himalayan that clocked 15,850km I am facing some issues as you mentioned slow acceleration and poor mileage when I accelerate I feel like something is holding my bike back I have faced this issue after riding is for 8 to 15km. My RE service centre didn't say anything about valve clearance they just service the bike that's all. On my 4th service (15k) I mentioned this issue to my RE service advisor but they said they have adjusted the tappet but I didn't see any change. Thank you for making this video 🙏
Keep up the good work bro.. More videos please 😄
Thanks mate, stay safe.
Good video again. Greetings from Germany
Hey mate, thanks, I am glad you enjoyed it. Greetings from India. Cheers :)
Probably redundant but just a little tidbit, the bottom of the tappet covers are etched with INT and EXH for intake and exhaust so you know which goes where.
Leuheanrede, your videos are astounding, beautifully shot and explained. I'm a fan, from Argentina. You are welcome to visit anytime you want, I'll loan you one of my Himalayans for a ride along the Ruta 40. Saludos.
Thanks mate :) And it would be a pleasure to visit your beautiful country one day, thanks again, cheers :)
This is pure gold xD.
Thanks mate, really glad you found this useful, cheers :)
RE has admitted that there was an error at the printers. It should read anti-clockwise. They have also stated the force to remove the nut is a lot more than the force used to turn the engine anti-clockwise for a valve adjustment.
Hey mate, I assumed the same, I was kinda surprised actually as I found the same being mentioned at multiple places on 3-4 copies from all gen himalayans :)
Great vide. So informative as usual. I have a request. Could you make a video of the tools you have, and links to buy it?
Thanks mate, sure will do shortly, cheers :)
What's up bro 😁, Loved it 👍Bravo 👏🙌
Hey niecoo, i hope I am not distracting you with this stuff, idea is to motivate you to be an engineer :D
We are really inspired...
Dude. Thanks from Bottom of heart. You explained it like a master. I mean you are a master. Keep going. Waiting for next one.
I do have experienced engine knocking sound when the engine on high temp. The knocking sound will hear clearly while the engine is at high temp and in bumper to bumper traffic . Do I need to adjust the valve for this? The RE guys telling these are normal. Am Confused.
Thanks mate :) and yes assuming that spark plug is correct spec and rest things in good nic, next thing is adjusting the clearance. I am assuming one or both might be on the tighter side. Cheers :)
He's good...
Glad you found this useful mate, cheers
Typical old school💪
Thanks mate, some things are best kept simple thus, glad you found this useful, cheers ;)
Hi Leuheanede i am a huge fan of yours . Your videos are so informative and technically accurate. I am a royal enfield himalayan owner (bs4) 2017 non abs , sir i am having issue with fuel efficiency. I am getting 16 km/pl milage in city only . I get the servide done from royal enfield service centre only but i am not satisfied with their assistance. Kindly help me to resolve this issue. I will be grateful to you .
I like to put it in gear and bump the rear wheel to advance to tdc.
Righty Tighty. Lefty Loosey. Clockwise keeps it tight. Anti-clockwise can loosen up bolts and screws. That's why. You never know with automotives. Heat, vibration, cold, expansion, contraction, can loosen up bolts.
Oh yes yes, we have interesting stories on this one where it came loose becos it was never torqued correctly at factory among few more reasons ;)
Brilliant, Rather than taking the side cover off to turn the crank would taking the spark plug out and selecting a gear then turning the back wheel achieve the same result.
Thanks mate :) and yes it would kinda but stopping the wheel just at compression TDC is gonna be tough, can be done but more tedious. Cheers :)
It's easiest when the fifth gear is on. With first gear it's really tough.
How many kilometers must adjusting valve
Hello, I've seen other videos where the "T" was lined up with the mark and there was play at the tappets to indicate TDC. But your video shows the line after the "T". now I'm really confused. can you clarify why there is a discrepency? Thanks.
just saw your video. I need to adjust the valves on my Himalayan. where did you purchase the feeler gauges? They don't have the proper size at my local auto supply store. Thanks
Hi mate, I got mine from Amazon. Even I don't have the exact size but I combine 2 like 14 and 8 to get 22 for example. Does work 🙂
@@leuheanrede thanks, I enjoy your video. very informative.
Hey bro
Wana ask all list of maintainence needed and at how much km.
I will be thankful for this indeed 😊
Hey mate thanks, 10000 kms would be good to go, RE manual recommends 5000 kms though, Cheers :)
Outstanding video! Greetings from Mexico..
I am on the road and trying this, can you please elaborate on how much movementt at the valves when at true compression tdc. Mine do not move at all at what I think is false tdc , at what I think is true tdc the exhaust valve wiggles very slightly, the intake valve hardly moves at all, only a very tiny bit , is this normal please
Hey mate, thanks and greeting. Yup if they are too tight its most likely in false tdc. In true tdc, as you mentioned, intake will have slight movement but should be between .08 to .10 mm when measured with feeler gauge.
And as for exhaust, it would seem slightly more and should be within .23 to .25 mm
If not within these range, please adjust. Cheers
@@leuheanrede thanks that is clear. Is there any other way of double checking true tdc other than checking the valves move slightly
@@davidcoulson5229 the marking on the engine need to be followed through all 4 cycles of stroke while observing in which stroke it is that can be seen by the movement of valves. Once exhaust valve closes then intake will open. When intake closes, compression will start. Thats the time that we see the marking as in vid.
Next will be ignition and then exhaust will open. Then just after exhaust closes we will again see the marking, this is false and just before intake open.
Try it a few times, rotating the crank anti clockwise and observing marking and valve movement just to be sure, before you start adjustment. Cheers :)
@@leuheanrede thanks! Interesting - Good advice greatly appreciated, will do as you suggest
Hi bro , please make a video on how to replace frok seal
Hey mate, sorry about this but hope it makes sense and shows the basic idea and tools needed to do the job as its from my another channel and in Hindi and on r15 v3. -ua-cam.com/video/2ut-QViOaFY/v-deo.html
Thing is that the one on Himalayan havent required changing yet, fingers crossed, shouldnt be anytime soon, but if it does the tools are basiically the same as V3 also used the same 41 mm fork and seal and seal driver and internal piston holder etc. Cheers
Hey bro,
A small query here, hope you ca answer that. So I bought this 2021 himalayan and 2 weeks back I had my first service done. Until then I was only accelerating the bike upto 60 kmph. Post the first service, when I accelerated it beyond 60 kmph(3k-4k rpm range), the bike is starting to vibrate, both on the tank and mirror. Any idea why this is happening? lately I can feel that there is this tappet noice as well. Is there anything to get worried on this?
Hey mate. Its hard to answer with riding myself. But usually himalayan do vibrate somewhat. I can only suggest that you ride some other himalayan to confirm the level of vibration. Also do check if the chain is adjusted properly and not too tight. Cheers
@@leuheanrede sure mate. Thanks for the reply
Hello my best screwdriver friend, Please come to Germany the way you do it 👍 everything is great, or I will be happy to come to India. if I may 😷 your videos are the best !!!
Hahaha. Hey mate, thank you, really glad you found it useful. Internet has united the world so wonderfully that distance doesn't matter. Everything is just a click away 🙃 but certainly it will be my pleasure to host you if you ever visit India. Cheers :)
@@leuheanrede I can only understand parts of it, I can't speak English and I can't copy your answer into German. how can we get in contact?
@@leuheanrede I can't translate what you write back.
@@leuheanrede Do not make fun of it, we were and are being kept stupid here. Is it really like that
but at the moment I would prefer to go to India 🤗 is getting better and better here 😩 Thank you for your videos 👍 I don't know how to get away from here, I would love to!
These are tough time, but with vaccines rolling out hopefully things will get better very soon 🙂 cheers
@@leuheanrede if I understand correctly, is it better to emigrate now or what? but where?
@@leuheanrede I'm serious !
Can't we open the rocker cover for more easy acess for new bees ..
2:17 If it is below .08 it has loosened or it has to be loosened? Thanks for the video btw🎉
Thanks mate, and sorry I fumbled there in the vid, glad you asked. So if its below .08 that means it has to be loosened. Lets say we cant get the .08 feeler gauge in but we can get .07 in with ease thats means the clearance is too tight and we need to bring it to spec range between .08 to .10 mm by loosening and readjusting. Cheers :)
@@leuheanrede Thanks a lot for clearing my confusion brother. Your videos were always helpful for me. Keep them coming ❤️
@@aslamshah4356 thanks for your kind words and motivation brother. Certainly will try my best to bring useful videos in future too. Cheers
I have done my valve setting at RE Gulbarga, since the time he has done it, it often goes off on speed breaker or when I ride it slow, he says idle is perfect which is 1100rpm.. but why it's getting off, any idea.?
Hey mate, first thing to check would be evap hose coming out tank. Most of the time they put it back improperly and it gets chocked. Simple fix for that, I have one vid on proper tank removal and refitting. And I can only hope that that clearance was done properly and isn't too tight. Were you there when it was done, did you notice what feeler gauge he used for intake and exhaust. But 1100 when the bike has warmed up is quite low for FI model, was it running fine at 1100 rpm before clearance was done?
Anyways most likely it might be just the evap hose getting chocked, do give it a look. Cheers
@@leuheanrede thanks for taking out time and replying to me..
It's a BS3 model, it doesn't have evap.
Yes I was there, he used the recommand gauges.
Before valve setting it was working fine with the 1100
Hi mate, just a simple question! Is it safe to rotate the crank counter clockwise with the spark plug removed without worrying about the crank nut gets loose?
Yup mate that is the key please remove the spark plug before rotating the crankshaft nut. It will ease the pressure as there will be no compression forces with plug removed
@@leuheanrede Hi mate, I did the valve clearance yesterday! I had this phobia of loosening the crank bolt. So I just played it safe by rotating the crank counter clockwise by carefully watching the valves in the reverse order. The valves are a bit loose. Last time it was checked at 3000km before. And now it took me a lot of tries to get the exact gap at both the valves. But finally I made it. Surprise thing is the bike now feels smooth. I mean before the adjustments, the bike felt rough at 4K RPM 3rd gear. Now I feel like the roughness has lessened. Is adjusting the valves related to do with this smoothness? Two days before I had done throttle body cleaning. Even that time I didn't feel the smoothness! Man, I was a person who just sit & ride kinda person. But now I have been noticing these small things! 😀 Couldn't believe myself! 😀 All credit goes to you my master! ❤️
Hy bro i'm using a himalayan with a after market exhaust in it. I feel a lot of backfire and my friend says it because of fuel rich you need to get it tuned, i'm a bit confused if this is not the reason what are the other factors i need to be considered
Hey mate. May I ask how much kms did you cover in stock and how much in aftermarket and how much in total?
@@leuheanrede 18k on stock 7k on aftermarket exhaust, total is 25k done
couldn't you put it in gear, on center stand, and rotate rear wheel forward to rotate the crank thus not risking loosening the crank nut?
Hey mate..Indeed we can, oldest trick in the book :). No harm. But being lazy I just find rotating the crank with spanner to be an easier way ;)
i am Himalayan user for last 3 years
Hey mate, so is that BS3 or BS4?
@@leuheanrede bs4 non abs
@@learn_new_hacks aah good one. I had disconnected abs on mine with a on off switch. Sometimes I wonder if I should just take the abs unit out completely, will save some weight 🙃
@@leuheanrede no no no ; ABS is a good one ; i am in thinking to upgrade my bike with ABS . when you are moving in side edges of road filled with mud , non abs himalayan will get slide if we apply front break. Dont Remove it ; myself trained well with non ABS breaking - IBS ( Intelligent Breaking System - LOL :) )
@@learn_new_hacks hahaha trust me mate IBS is the best. I have ridden in offroad and beyond ofroad conditions. Every one around me was falling like fly becos of abs intervention. All I had to do was switch it off. We only need IBS, ABS is a bane except for rainy conditions ;) cheers
Why is that even to discuss? If the manual says you have to turn it clockwise, why the heck do people consider turning it the other direction? There’s no need to turn it counter clockwise at all