Mine still work fine for me. In fact the springs have out lasted some coil victors by 25 plus years come to think of it. Wish I wasn't so carless as a kid. I'd have a lot more today. I will admit I don't use them for beaver anymore.
As always, you come out with something new. Never seen a Jump Trap before, but sure they will work well. Me...I am studying your Resistance Traping video. The time is very near and we need to get ready. God Bless you for what you do, my brother from another mother. Parrot Bill
I have a lot of the old jump traps and use them when needed or desired....Asa Lennon was the one that first talked to me about the Jump trap and its uses. There are ways to make the pan more stable and thus bed a bit easier. I took an dominant male bobcat that had given me problems a few years ago with an number 3 Jump trap. You spot on when you indicate that when the shit hits the fan they will still be working.
The bottom/frame on a jump trap is also a spring. It flattens out some when the top spring is compressed. When it fires the spring arches again, launching the trap up in the air off both ends of the bottom spring, causing it to "jump".
Thats good in theory but how often are they set on flat and hard enough ground for it to work that way. I mean they do jump if you set them on your garage floor but not in the field.
Nice review !! All the old traps have their place !! Even the old victor #2 square jaws, that used to be the fox trap back in the day when there were no coyotes around, now I wouldn’t think about using them for them , coyote would pop the jaws on them but a great rat and mink trap
The #2 Victor that was designed for fox is actually the best mink trap available when it comes to the facets of blind setting for Mink and other smaller critters.
The old number two coil is a very good rat& mink trap especially on big water rivers and such Heavy enough to drown.and a wide enough jaw spread to cover the target area! But do try to avoid coon with them
In the early 70's I bought several dozen #1 jumps. They have a smaller footprint than the same size long spring so, would set in a smaller spot on the edge of cattails. Still have those. Sometimes it's the right tool for the job.
I found an 0 jump trap in a creek bottom on the ground while picking mushrooms a couple years ago. It had no ID tag on it and was pretty crusty so I picked it up. It went through a forest fire and I bet it would still have strength to catch a marten or mink.
What I hated about the jump traps is trying to set them when up to my hips in water. I’m not man enough to set those things on my leg standing in water. I don’t know of a leg hold trap that is harder to set. Even using both feet on the ground, the ground better be frozen or find something solid to put under the lever side of the trap. If it sinks into the ground, you can’t get the spring all the way down. Great trap! Fits in tight places! No better trap to hide in a notch on a crossing log, etc.
You always do such a great job covering all the details and explaining things in an easy to understand manner. It was cool to see you go over the old style jump. I still have many in the trapper shed. I hope you don’t mind that I recommend your channel in the comments section of my channel. Keep up the good work!
The way I increase the weight for the pan on my traps is by putting a piece of foam under the pan. It’s takes a little more effort to trigger the trap when I do this.
In my mind, ANY trap bearing a flat spring is a MUCH better trap than ANY coilspring trap. More durable, less maintnence, and theyre just prettier and better feeling in the hands. Ive yet to pick up a modern coilspring and get a cool feeling of nostalgia like every one of my flat springers. Each time a grown man grabs one, its like being a kid again and thinking of all the animals youre going to catch and how "rich" youre going to ge catching everything. lol
My first jumps back in early 50s that’s 1950s was jumps traps in 0. ,,, number 1. 1 1/2. And you had to be careful in coloring and waxing them so I didn’t weaken them I caught mink muskrat coon fox all with undersprings I loved them
This is a very unique trap design as the base plate is also a spring with a preset amount of arch built in, when the trap is set the long spring is pushed down and the arch in the base plate {spring} is pushed flat and the trap is set as usual. When the trap is thrown the upper spring closes the trap jaws and the base plate acting as a spring resumes its arch causing the trap to jump up and get a better hold higher up on the leg. that is why it's called a jump trap.
The coil is great if there is a chance they will be stolen 😆 love. The long double springs and the jumps. Got a dozen each of the number 3 and 4 when they were going out of business. Had I known they were going out I would have bought a lot more.
GREAT CHANNEL! QUESTION - Is there a way to test if the holding power on old traps is sufficient? I inherited a few dozen foothold traps that are about 60 yo, all types. I still have them with a family member because in NJ you can't even possess footholds for any purpose - even welded decorations. I'm a recently retired avid outdoorsman and new to trapping. I currently only use cable restraints and submerged body grips. I expect to move to a state that allows foothold traps after my wife retires. 🙂
Thank you for putting out these videos. I traded with a friend I guess fourty something years ago for 3 number 3 jump traps I only have one left I will use it sometime this season.
Interestingly...I NEVER used jump traps when I was trapping as a very young man...but now later in life I find myself collecting them out of nostalgia and curiosity/interest alone.
Mine still work fine for me. In fact the springs have out lasted some coil victors by 25 plus years come to think of it. Wish I wasn't so carless as a kid. I'd have a lot more today. I will admit I don't use them for beaver anymore.
As always, you come out with something new. Never seen a Jump Trap before, but sure they will work well. Me...I am studying your Resistance Traping video. The time is very near and we need to get ready.
God Bless you for what you do, my brother from another mother.
Parrot Bill
I have a lot of the old jump traps and use them when needed or desired....Asa Lennon was the one that first talked to me about the Jump trap and its uses. There are ways to make the pan more stable and thus bed a bit easier. I took an dominant male bobcat that had given me problems a few years ago with an number 3 Jump trap. You spot on when you indicate that when the shit hits the fan they will still be working.
The bottom/frame on a jump trap is also a spring. It flattens out some when the top spring is compressed. When it fires the spring arches again, launching the trap up in the air off both ends of the bottom spring, causing it to "jump".
Thats good in theory but how often are they set on flat and hard enough ground for it to work that way. I mean they do jump if you set them on your garage floor but not in the field.
@@gunfisher4661 Everyone I ever fired on ground seemed to "jump" just fine, but then again, I never tried it on a garage floor for comparison.
Hadn't considered springs failing in a grid down scenario. Thanks man
The number 14 Victor has caught a ton of beaver here in Maine
I use them for bobcat here
Nice review !! All the old traps have their place !! Even the old victor #2 square jaws, that used to be the fox trap back in the day when there were no coyotes around, now I wouldn’t think about using them for them , coyote would pop the jaws on them but a great rat and mink trap
The #2 Victor that was designed for fox is actually the best mink trap available when it comes to the facets of blind setting for Mink and other smaller critters.
The old number two coil is a very good rat& mink trap especially on big water rivers and such
Heavy enough to drown.and a wide enough jaw spread to cover the target area!
But do try to avoid coon with them
In the early 70's I bought several dozen #1 jumps. They have a smaller footprint than the same size long spring so, would set in a smaller spot on the edge of cattails. Still have those. Sometimes it's the right tool for the job.
These are the style of traps that I started trapping with 30 years ago.
Used to love them for mink trapping.
I found an 0 jump trap in a creek bottom on the ground while picking mushrooms a couple years ago. It had no ID tag on it and was pretty crusty so I picked it up. It went through a forest fire and I bet it would still have strength to catch a marten or mink.
What I hated about the jump traps is trying to set them when up to my hips in water. I’m not man enough to set those things on my leg standing in water. I don’t know of a leg hold trap that is harder to set. Even using both feet on the ground, the ground better be frozen or find something solid to put under the lever side of the trap. If it sinks into the ground, you can’t get the spring all the way down. Great trap! Fits in tight places! No better trap to hide in a notch on a crossing log, etc.
Oh, and they are called jump traps because their selling point was a high grip. They do launch off the ground if on something solid.
I found them hard to set also. And no way to easily tension the pan made me quite using them.
You always do such a great job covering all the details and explaining things in an easy to understand manner. It was cool to see you go over the old style jump. I still have many in the trapper shed. I hope you don’t mind that I recommend your channel in the comments section of my channel. Keep up the good work!
The way I increase the weight for the pan on my traps is by putting a piece of foam under the pan. It’s takes a little more effort to trigger the trap when I do this.
In my mind, ANY trap bearing a flat spring is a MUCH better trap than ANY coilspring trap. More durable, less maintnence, and theyre just prettier and better feeling in the hands. Ive yet to pick up a modern coilspring and get a cool feeling of nostalgia like every one of my flat springers. Each time a grown man grabs one, its like being a kid again and thinking of all the animals youre going to catch and how "rich" youre going to ge catching everything. lol
My first jumps back in early 50s that’s 1950s was jumps traps in 0. ,,, number 1. 1 1/2. And you had to be careful in coloring and waxing them so I didn’t weaken them I caught mink muskrat coon fox all with undersprings I loved them
This is a very unique trap design as the base plate is also a spring with a preset amount of arch built in, when the trap is set the long spring is pushed down and the arch in the base plate {spring} is pushed flat and the trap is set as usual. When the trap is thrown the upper spring closes the trap jaws and the base plate acting as a spring resumes its arch causing the trap to jump up and get a better hold higher up on the leg. that is why it's called a jump trap.
I’ve got one of these and a bunch of long springs. It’s a pain to set on soft ground
On ground? Smash that sprimg by hand a bit and open the jaws in the other hand.lol
I think the Dean of old time trappers mr.e.j.dailey would whole hearty agree with you good video
Love your channel we used these traps had a mix old traps still have them great workers
The coil is great if there is a chance they will be stolen 😆 love. The long double springs and the jumps. Got a dozen each of the number 3 and 4 when they were going out of business. Had I known they were going out I would have bought a lot more.
I have around 30 of the small ones. They work well on muskrat floats.
Thanks from South Africa.
GREAT CHANNEL! QUESTION - Is there a way to test if the holding power on old traps is sufficient? I inherited a few dozen foothold traps that are about 60 yo, all types. I still have them with a family member because in NJ you can't even possess footholds for any purpose - even welded decorations.
I'm a recently retired avid outdoorsman and new to trapping. I currently only use cable restraints and submerged body grips. I expect to move to a state that allows foothold traps after my wife retires. 🙂
Nice review there eh! I have a couple of the old ones u brought up a few good points to keep them and an eye out for more... thanks for sharing
Also them jump traps are light weight .so easygoing getting them to your sets if you haul them on your back
has anyone ever done a speed test comparing jump traps to the other types. I am also a big fan of jumps so this would be an interesting test
I used these as a kid, size 1 1/2 mostly. Every coin I ever caught in one pulled out. They were ok for muskrat, but I remember having a lot of misses.
Them jumps are nice traps
I believe that they are as good as the one running the line. If the jump trap is all we had then it would work.
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thank you for putting out these videos.
I traded with a friend I guess fourty something years ago for 3 number 3 jump traps I only have one left I will use it sometime this season.
After watching this video I bought a few of these. They work quite well.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Interestingly...I NEVER used jump traps when I was trapping as a very young man...but now later in life I find myself collecting them out of nostalgia and curiosity/interest alone.
Blake and lamb trap the spring last for ever love the jump trap
Had over 400 of these back in the early 80's. Caught the shit out of the mink back when they averaged $35.
The smaller ones are perfect mink traps .
I think they are nice
Do u eat Coon as well
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@@Meattrapper thanks for the answer I'm new to ur channel and I love it
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