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This is a profoundly important video with a message that so, so many gamers need to hear. This applies to more than just Guild Wars 2, and I hope it reaches more people.
Perhaps it's my age (fast approaching 50) but I don't care about completionist stuff. I just enjoy the distraction from real life.
Action Camera should be the default. I play with a ps3 nav controller and mouse and never touch a keyboard. Love GW2.
Agreed. I needed this; and so many other gamers too. Tho I don't think it's the internet, the streamers, the things we choose to watch or do with our time... because it's not the tools given to us for our use, it's how we use them. Not just what we choose, how we choose and actually understand why we're choosing to do something rather than just trying to be "the best"; giving insight to self exploration and self awareness. That kinda thing can be hard as a gamer and with parents carelessly raising our future neglecting and avoiding rather than helping a child to understand and process their emotions and teaching them to work through their problems rather than just doing it for them... Went a little deep there, I just feel this kind of mentality can be focused and directed in so many other perspectives in life. GW2 is just a great place to start. 😝
@@Wolfian you got my sub bro, keep up the great content! Inspired me for sure.
I have more hours, my mastery rank is 400, but I only have 6500 achievement points because I spend most of my time releveling new characters.
Sorry, I'll tell you more. after a 3-4 year breakI returned to GW2, deleted all5 my boost characters, created a new warrior and slowly play with him without looking the wiki or Google. great feeling from such a game and today I came across your video and completely understand you
Have played for 11 years
Fuck the meta!
I adore this love letter to the game! It's also a wonderful metaphor for getting older in general, and that's awesome too. Nice work!
"Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
"the angriest, assholiest norn"... so braham?
I’ve been trying to tell players to play GW2 the way they enjoy the most, instead of playing it just to get gold fastest. As you said, the journey is more important than the destination.
The journey is most important to me in a MMO. Unfortunately for me, the journey in GW2 gets repetitive and boring by the 3rd or 4th zone... Do the hearts, find the Vistas, do the zone events, get the hero points, find and complete any jumping puzzles... move on to the next zone and do the same... move on to the next zone and do the same... move on to the next zone and do the same... and on and on.. Only the occasional story quests would break that up.
I got to around 67 on my first character, and that pattern never changed. Every single zone was the same routine of running all over to get 100% map completion. I lost the interest to log in after that. Since then, any time I try to give it another shot, try another character and experience this "journey", I make it to maybe level 30 and the boredom from the same routine in zone after zone after zone kicks in again.
Never got to do dungeons because I could never get a group for them. Apparently dungeons aren't a popular feature in GW2.
The most enjoyable aspect of GW2 for me was dyeing my mounts to match the theme of my character. Buying and checking out different dye colors and shades was really enjoyable. So, I guess for me... GW2 was a fun game for playing dress-up with my character and mounts.. and not much else.
Even experienced veterans confirmed my impression, almost without exception - whether they realized it or not. I discussed my experience with 6 different vet players. All but one said some variation of the following:
"You don't play GW2 for the early game. GW2 is all about the end-game. You just level up to cap as fast as possible because that's where the real game is". A viewer in one of their chats was mocking me for spending so much time in pre level-cap content and thinking that's how you're supposed to play. Basically I was "playing GW2 wrong".
I wish I could enjoy the journey in GW2, 'cause it's a beautiful game and I'd love to see later environments, etc.. But the repetition just burns me out long before I reach them.
I play wvw and pvp and never care about gold. I always seem to have it for what I need though...It took me 6yrs or so just to do crafting. lol. But I banged all but jewelry out in a week when I found out it's fast if you have the "Fast Guides" site open. Or whatever the name it. And then it took me 8yrs to do world comp. I started with like 23% world comp after 8yrs of it being one of my main games the whole time. Gonna start it again here soon. It is a great looking game all around.
@@twocatsyelling723 It's your journey, and you should do whatever you think is fun. I'd just say that 100%ing every zone is not the GW2 journey.
It's A journey, and one that I could never really stomach. When I first played the game, I would occasionally 100% a zone, but more often I was more interested to get to another zone, to do a dungeon, pvp, or just follow event chains. Event chains tended to be the best for experience. I only got 100% in a couple zones where I really liked the events and environment. It took me a year to get to level 80. Leveling was many times slower then, but I also wasn't very driven. I did a few things at max level and didn't really click with the (very limited) endgame at the time. Pvp however, was a crazy kind of playground. I found a passion for creating builds, switching from my thief to a engi that would bunker a point, knocking people around and healing myself with explosions. I'd experiment with all kinds of things. In Heart of Thorns, I got more serious, and had fun getting to be ranked in the top 250, dueling great players, and watching pvp streams all the time.
It wasn't until many years later that I fully revisited pve. I took many breaks over this time, playing other games or being busy irl. I played through Path of Fire, and had a lot of fun, and eventually got in to the pve endgame, having a lot of fun in strikes and fractals. I revisited story, and actually found myself replaying the End of Dragons story multiple times, and getting all the achievements. This despite never considering myself a "story" player. 9 years into the game, I finally went through and 100%ed the base zones, roleplaying as a deadeye sniper.
This is all to say that while there's no objectively wrong way to play the game, and while you may have made the right choices for yourself, it sounds like you've repeatedly attempted a tiny fraction of what the game has to offer in a very specific way, and not enjoyed it. There's a good chance you'd have better luck approaching it differently. The journey doesn't end at level 80, it expands, and regardless of popular belief, it's possible to boost a character to level 80 and still have a compelling story and roleplay experience. You could do that, you could reconnect with your level 67 if you still have it, hell you could even do some leveling in pvp, or through crafting. Or you could approach maps in a different way, prioritizing events or just seeing whatever you want to see. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, it may be that the game truly isn't for you. It just sounds like you've gotten painfully close to experiencing newer content and never gotten out of a self-imposed rut.
@@twocatsyelling723 Dungeons have several problems:
- They are pretty long compared to fractals or strike missions unless you do a lot of skips of trash mobs. And some even if you try to do that. (Arah, I'm looking at you.)
- The loot isn't that great.
- They become repetitive very quickly and many people have done them quite a lot before Fractals got introduced.
There are guilds and communities doing them still but you need to look for them. That you can soon (or already?) access them all from Lion's Arch might also help a bit. And maybe they will add them to the daily or weekly tasks for AA.
The hearts are only the same if you ignore all the interactions and dialogs and treat them as simple progression bars. Granted that will happen after 2nd character or so but for the first time it can be very rewarding to actually listen and read what they are all about.
It's true that GW2 really starts at lvl80 and when you have all the options unlocked because then you can adjust your character far better than before. But taking your time to get there is not "playing the game wrong". Unless you want to join your friends in the end game stuff as fast as possible.
@@twocatsyelling723 Veterans tend to say that because content down the road is much more fleshed out/involved than core Tyria which is 2012 content. "End game" is also a weird term since basically 80% of the game is post-level 80. Having said that, I disagree with them. Pre-80 is important in helping you understand your class. It is a low stake environment which allows you to adjust your skills, trait, equipment to find what best suits you. Being familiar with your class will allow you to utilize meta builds better as well as engage in any PVP type content. It will also prepare you for the difficulty spike when you enter the HOT expansion.
I do agree that core Tyria may be boring especially because of the low difficulty. However, I noticed that I disliked core Tyria the most when I was fixated on map completion. Map completion is completely optional; it is only needed to craft legendaries (which are mostly quality of life items). It's better to view core Tyria as a world for you to explore, meet new people (whether NPCs or characters), see new monsters, etc. If you end up min-maxing map completion like me (opening world map constantly to see what POIs I missed), you will get burned out. It's like doing fractals. While the gold from fractals is a nice reward, we should look at doing them because they're fun and we want to play with others.
Tl;dr,
I agree with veterans that "end game" content is more fun than Tyria. I disagree with their view that pre-level 80 is useless. Don't stress map completion, just play at your own leisure. If you still find Guild Wars 2 boring after all of this, then it is what it is. Nobody can say you are right or wrong.
Yep! That's the way I played for years. I was addicted to running from one group event to another. Large groups, small groups, any group. Just run up and join in. Yes. I played every race / class combination, every story line, every weapon (in open world). Sure, not for everyone...but I loved it.
I was looking to play GW2 but I play BDO religiously and your words have sparked hope in my mind and heart. I was feeling the need to swap games or look for party in another game... But now I feel a little more keen in my vision on my gaming experience. Your words brought light into my day! But... For an entirely different video game mmo LOL !
I just happened to stumble across your video while looking up "optimal solo builds" for Guild Wars 2, while never having played a single character long enough to actually discover anything about Tyria. I feared I was leveling up my characters "sub-optimally" and started from scratch, wondering if I picked the "right combination of race and profession" this time.
Your video gave me a whole new perspective. Thank you for taking the time to create this. I'm gonna be that guardian I always wanted to be. Thanks, lad.
Finally someone who understands that I don't play "the meta" because IT'S BORING!!!!! Where's the fun in auto attack only? x.x
I've had GW2 since it's release. I JUST finally got through the base game story a few months back. I STILL haven't gone for a "meta" build. I've bought all the dlc, I'm working my way through the stories and I'm enjoying myself THOROUGHLY. I'll go looking for a meta build when I want to do PVP/raids/fractals/etc. As long as I'm just playing open world I'm going to experiment and do things my way.
You only have 7 characters? Amazing! I have 15 between 2 accounts and that is very low compared to others.
Staff Warrior build from scratch... here we go.
glad you're enjoying the game for what it is.
You don't need another 100% map exploration - try the gen 2 leggies: if you're eyeing a GS I'd heartily recommend Exordium, which morphs itself depending on the type of skill you're using it with. Best weapon animations imo.
On the note of _exploring the game_ along with legendary weapons, 4 of the gen 2 leggies have additional "journeys" to them that I think you will very much like (short bow, axe, staff and pistol).
1 hour of it made me fall in love with it. I saw it about 6 years (my memory is foggy) ago as a casual advert & checked it out. I'm very happy I did. This game did many awesome moves. Customization, mounts to fit surroundings, heck even the swimming, the "classes" are fun too...etc etc etc
😌 yeah, weird builds are always fun. I used to do a "Garen" build before ANet changed the Dolyak Rune. It's based around full face tanking and health regenerating non-stop guardian 😂 no damage though lol
A put in 3k hours in the first 5 years of the game and just reinstalled the game after a long break. I can honestly say this is the only game I’ve quit because it was too addicting…most games I get bored of but not Gw2….never got bored of it, it just sucked too much of my life
@7:58 You mentioned bank slots (character-specific along with bag slots and bank slots) to be character-specific. What did you mean by that. The bank's whole purpose is to be accessible by all characters and the easiest way to move stuff between characters (outside of the very expensive shared inventory slots). Did you maybe mix it up with equipment templates?
Also, word of warning for anyone looking to buy build storage expansions. Know that you could just copy build codes and save them in a text file for infinite build storage spaces.
Build templates: nice. Build storage: meh.
Congratulations on reaching the realisation (sincere, not sarcasm)
I reached this same enlightenment several years and 2 or 3 MMOs ago, but im older than most
Its EVEN better when you start a new MMO (as GW2 is for me) with this mindset
When you play for fun, nothing is a grind, nothing is a chore, everything is enjoyment, even dying
Well I don't like to die, but I see where you are going with it. Casual gameplay is one of the many ways you can play GW2 and get a ton of content. =)
Yea... I've done what you've done with my first class.. took a few years to reach 80 on my first necro.
Now I'm stuck with 20 characters lvl 80 and I don't enjoy any single one particuraly, I only know necro deep to experiment with builds. Others I have to copy form meta battle, which is actually quite sad.
Today I tried the action camera for the first time and damn is this fun.
I've played gw2 for a few years now, and I've quit multiple times because I got bored grinding map after map, on 10 different characters. I agree entirely that putting into the game at least a bit of RPing makes a big difference for enjoying the game. I'll never have a legendary anything because I don't have it in me to do the nitpicky grind. But I have made 12 sets of ascended, so I don't feel the need. Thanks for a good video.
Need to do this. After all this years i achieved everything i wanted (primary getting full legendary - lets not talk about diving). Cant remember the main Story, mostly used meta builds. Guess its time to slow things down😊
Guess what happens when you start living IRL like that- :) I'm a very old guy now,built my own 'transportable" back in I think 66' or so, and now as I near my own 'expiration' date I've find that In sum I have lived a life I have mostly enjoyed living, both in front of a monitor, and out thrashing about in the Real world:) When asked, I always answered that I was a student of life, there has been sooooo much to see:) Given the present troubles confronting our planet and its inhabitants, I hope that you all manage to sort it out and find for yourselves, lives worth living.
That thumbnail did not read "CLICKED" to me... the L looked like a U. I was expecting to read funny comments about it.
I keep clearing Maps. My Power Reaper refuses to leave a map until it is DONE. Of course now I've wrapped up "Path of Fire" with all the Necro Elites unlocked and 100+ Hero Points I'll never use but The Map Must Be Cleared. I'm having a blast. And when I finally reach "Secrets of the Obscure" and get Weaponmastery there's going to be a Greatsword/Pistol & Torch Power Reaper wandering around determined to complete all the maps. But you have to explore or miss half the jokes. Like the Dom Mesmer in LWS3 in one of the Manor bedrooms with a clone of the "I'm Rich You Know" Guy in just leather shorts. Well I laughed.
I'm a casual gamer. Now that I'm older I want to savor these types of games but I almost never see content that highlights games that be enjoyed like you describe here. This makes me want to play GW2!
fantastic video! And I completely agree with the "fuck the journey" syndrom. GW2 is a fantastic game, some might say the best MMO out there today.
Currently doing the same with an engi. I just want to chillax, shoot my gun and blow up things. It's great.
"Completing every event for map completion is too time consuming" - while this is definetly correct, it would be great, to have an achievement tab, including all events. In Soto - the newest expansion - this is added. You even get AP for that. Of course this than again can feel like a chore you need to fulfill, but it also would be interesting to have a possibility to see, whether you have experienced all events in a given zone. Maybe even without AP, so it is NOT a chore to do for AP
Players will always optimize the fun out of everything.
I applaud your piece on perspective and appreciation. Good on you 🏆
I have been able to find a balance...i still have goals ans still like to find an optimal way of acquiring this material or that....but then i let myself go by feel...open world is so conducive to just letting you get lost as you mention that if i get sidetracked from the route i initially intended to go, its fine, i just let it happen.
With builds I find a balance too. For me its about weapon movesets and what feels cool. I've found i really love Hammer on almost every class that can use it. Its rarely the optimal choice in builds. But i will look up a meta build to see what and why and then see if i can learn from it and tweak it to what i want. Once i see what provides more survivability or more damage or whatever trait then i can switch and really make the build my own. Nothing im playing is cookie cutter from metabattle yet they're all good informed from one source or another, and sometimes a cross between two different sources.
This has been a grrat adjustment in mentality for me and has allowed me to enjoy what im working on in the game far more than that feeling you mentioned where you log in and wonder "what do i do?"
Great video.
(But you're crazy if you think I'm ever playing zoomed in with action camera😂😂😂)
Playing for a few months only but I find this game incredibly annoying. Overwhelmed with thousands of coins, materials, achievements, masteries, maps, mounts, bosses with different logistics, everything is too much from every direction. For an hour of casual game I need to research a lot of videos and wikis and so on. And all over again with the next map, or boss, or gear. It's exhausting. Not to mention that most of the game is for playing with groups, and I really hate that. I'm still waiting for this game to click for me but so far it's only frustrating.
I stared to play GW2 3 years ago and straight after reaching lv 80 i was thrown into raids, fractals and reaching max lv mastery points as fast as possible to do the same content my guildmates were doing.
Right after EoD i finnaly made a character focused to role-play and just beat the story slowly alone.
That was the best idea i had and i fell in love in that game again and thats something i recommend to every player.
GW2 isnt only great mmo but, even with some story f*ups, it’s a great RPG and I had no idea how much content i skipped coz i speedrun to lategame…
To add some more to the story - I was not using features from expansions.
For the example, If I was playing core game, I had not use Skyscale even once.
I was focused to do all the achivements which gaves me cosmetic items and collect all of them for my character was such a great time :D
Also - even If i maxed the zone - If NPC asked me for help and there was an event chain, I had to complete it fully.
From the bottom of my heart i rlyyy recommend this slowly progression, do not boost ur character and just have a great journey!
Thanks also for the vid!
@@ermusia This was kind of normal in the early days. Remember that both fractals, raids, gliding and mounts came later. If you get persuaded to skip all that you missed a lot of course. But then being able to play the more recent stuff with your friends as quickly as possible is also worthwhile. You can always do the older things later. And it sounds like you're having a blast with it. The living world legendary amulet was also something that encouraged many people to go back to old stuff.
I feel you. As an old time mmo player i fell into the trap of watching guides and minmaxing things, so when i came back to gw2 after an 8 year hiatus, i just wanted to be efficient. Fortunately i managed to stop myself and convince myself to play through all the story and all the expansions in order, without touching new maps before i finish the previous expansion/living story.
This was an amazing decision. The game felt really great and rewarding, and getting the first mounts were phenomenal. I still remember the exact moments when i got every single mount.
@@TechnoBacon55 IMHO it's a good thing that they give you the choice. You can pick up as fast as possible and experience the original stuff later (or never at all) or do it in order and take your time as many people did when those things came out.
OTOH it's also often funny to revisit old stuff and the NPCs are exited about raptors and skimmers while you are on your gryphon or sky scale.
@@TechnoBacon55 Something I tend to do with my characters as well, go through the content in order, not just boosting to 80 (or if I do, still going through everything).
Sadly all the friends I gamed with growing up doesn't like MMOs they only ever play competitive games like COD or Battlefield or even games like GTA 5, stuff like that while I branched out into the MMO universe. Specifically the more solo friendly ones bc while yes I do mostly play MMOs now I still prefer to experience them as a solo player mostly bc of my anti socialness. I know its weird someone with severe social anxiety playing MMOs? Weird. But I do only play MMOs that are solo friendly. Which is why GW2 has became my favorite MMO of all time bc it absolutely is solo friendly and the open world is amazing bc of how busy it stays with world events you finish one and another is right around the corner. I have no interest in raids or strikes at all and the game doesn't care if you do or not which is great! This game is like the definition of having something for everyone. All of the stories are easily soloable and not to mention great stories in general. They have a great PvP and WvW system and for those like me that love to RP you can find that as well and in my opinion has a better fashion system than FF14. Yes a big a claim but I stand by it. All in all this is the greatest MMO of all time imo and I think everyone that plays MMOs that hasn't tried it yet should.
I played like that on my first character. But then I got absolutely destroyed in HoT maps. I don't think I would have been able to complete it without strangers sometimes coming by and ressing me. Without the game knowledge you'd have after years of playing or the builds necessary to make it easy, what you're suggesting is just hell beyond core Tyria, because you'll spend more time on the floor waiting for a ress than actually participating in the events.
Welcome to my GW2 experience. Have fun.
Pro Queensdale afk-er here, still enjoying the game after 11 years. (I always talk about how the new players should have a certain mindset when they start GW2)
Double pet, rifle ranger.
Literally my top pick for Elite spec I want on ranger. Points! All the points!
I'd like a hardcore classic ngl. No mounts or gliders. Permanent death and guilds. I know I'm a minority but I'm still here damnit!
24500+ hours here!!! Try to beat that noobs !!!
I mean, you're right everywhere... The part about looking at the target marker isntead of looking at the world in particular is spot-on, the game doesn't really give me a reason not to look at it. I replaced that marker with Blish eventually but looking at the world they carefully crafted? Nuh-uh.
I mean why should I? Most stuff around there is pointless, they want us to grind like 50k gold to collect legendaries, another 100k in collectibles to unlock stuff, and we're supposed to wait and fight that mob that's spitting nonsense about how they are going to hit you with a frying pan?
No way, I want my Aurora.
Worst gold guide ever...
Jokes aside. This is what guildwars is, and this is exactly how it is supposed to be played. Uncountable hours of discovery are sitting in plain sight. Plus, the fractals and pvp matches get to be much lore enjoyable even when you dont do them too intense. Pure gold, thanks for this formidable video.
I just came here because your choice of font for the thumbnail made it look like the "L" and "I" was a "U" 😂
Just started playing again with map icons off, no minimap and the tracker panel off. So much more fun
Can you say me the settings? It looks waaay better than my gw2 ....😂❤
This video really hit me hard.
Thank you for sharing.
it's always funny to me how you can play a game for thousands (!!) of hours and forget to have fun. Do you not question yourself? Is it fun to me what i am doing now? I'm glad you realised that's about the journey and not the numbers. It's heartbraking seeing videos about doing perfect and trash all the effort the developers give to present you a world full of wonders and andventure and then just play by mechanics. Why not just play Go or Chess or some other kind of abstract boardgame, seems more like a lot of people are looking for that kind of challange..
1500hr? And I thought the Realm Reborn buildup was a bit of a slog.
Disclaimer: This is a shitpost. Please don't take it seriously.
Lol exactly what you are doing now, the revelation, is my way of playing and dude, totally agree on the camera thing, I like to play with it and feels soo good.
Also, been playing on and off ever since there was no expansions and it wasn't until very recently that (cos of the vault) decided to try and to do a strike mission. Was cool! I like thos game because I can get lost in a myriad of things to do, new ways of playing, fashion... (btw that norn hair is exactly the same I've chosen for my new rev haha, it's so nice)
rifle warrior people spit on for so long when it was a sleeper cell. However i have played mainly warrior since launch and make endless build combinations that run people over with all the weapon comboes. So when you say rifle double pet ranger i instantly thought about the old methods to get double rock dog with rifle warrior, but rangers could also get something like 5 pets in the past tech. all the odd really great builds no one uses in the games because they try running min maxed builds with less min maxed players behind the wheels instead of enjoying the game.
You should try the walking challenge however. i started it long ago to have a reason to do map completions and had people join me for a while. It makes every fight and combat area a challenge and when you get to joko or the forest in cantha many players simply cannot make the cut and cannot progress without groups.
ur thumbnail looks like it says "it cucked" from the side options
How my character looks is far more important than some perceived meta or min/max BS.
Love this, great video. inspirational
Games are far more enjoyable when you play them as... games, not min/max aids.
I have a secret for everyone. Those builds you google that are just considered the meta? A player just like you and me created those, without googling it.
I’ve been making my own builds since I started this game on launch, I test them and I tinker with them until they get to a point where they really work, and then I tinker with it some more. I recently made a heal/tank Chronomancer for raids and strikes and not only does it work, I’m more effective than some of the meta builds.
Screw the haters, do your own thing, and most of all, have a great time playing a video game. After all that’s what video games are for.
I have the same experience with GW2 but in reverse order: I enjoy the journey casually even role-play a bit at first, and after a few years, now all I do is kill kill kill, loot loot loot, skip skip skip and it is fun! XD
I bet you guys never noticed the two NPCs arguing about a jade tech dishwasher discount :D
My firsr mmo was guildnwars back in ghe day and i played itnso much. The story is what drove
man, this is so cool. for years so many of us mmo players kept feeling increasingly disconnected from our favorite game or mmos in general like, "why do mmos nowadays suck?" but i think we're all just missing this experience that made us love the genre to begin with and the fact that you actually went and did it is so powerful. Most of us just jump to the meta build and rush to the end game but deep down i always knew i wanted to relive the experience of my first mmo. Thank you so much for making this, i believe all mmo players can appreciate what you've done here
Well said, we all
Missed the point. Which in genius is not the point 😅👏🏻
mmos nowaday suck, because people suck. They force you to play stuff you don't want to instead of creating your own character and build. everything is overoptimized in a way that is never actually needed to do content but you got trashed of you don't follow "the meta". Just find yourself a bunch of people and enjoy the games / worlds / stories you create living through your character the way you like.
i will say aswell depending how you set up your suboptimal warrior build it can catch people off guard, sword sword greatsword power warrior with condi sigils and traits thrown in isnt optimal but you can still do enough physical damage to kill lighter classes and have enough bleed ect to be able to finish off classes you have to chase down.
How do you play a game for 1500 hours and have it not click 😂
It's funny to me (positively) because I am the opposite case - I get attached to my character so much that I can't really play alts because I feel like all I've done, all the memories I've made are on my main toon. I picked warrior, went 1-80 in the world, then did story as it. While warrior is probably not my favorite class, I am sticking with it until the end of times because I love the character it's attached to.
Ten year vet. The game is what you make of it. My best advice is to try everything and then stick to the stuff you like!
If you want to role play like its a single player rpg, that is absolutely wonderful, and your choice. Gonna guess there is a % of players that only wants to raid and chase end game achievements. Different goals entirely. And the two playstyles are not compatible. At the end of the day these are ALL games, try to have fun.
Played GW2 since launch and never approached the "optimized play" as you did, because even at like 13 years old I understood how massive on-line game try to manipulate us into longer engagement in exchange for prestige items, titles, etc.. that are ultimately shallow and worthless in the real world. hundreds of hours of game play just so you can earn a special legendary that tells the world you have no life. The more prestige items I see on a player, especially in those first few years, the more I knew I was looking at a player giving up large chunks of real life hobbies and productivity just for bragging rights in a game. I think when you look at someone as pathetic, it's the complete opposite of respect. I know many MMORPG players are probably reading hating on me right now, I don't give a fuck. 1500+ hours in a game, even over 10 years is almost the same amount of time as a full year of working a 40 hour a week job (~1900 hours). So to think someone would spend 1500 hours almost exclusively doing "optimized" grind is difficult to get my head around. I do hope there was some Entertainment value there for you at least.
Even as a casual gamer this comment hit me hard "we do not sit down to relax anymore, we sit down to complete". I never thought about it like that but it is so true. Probably why the best MMO memories are from years ago, not because the games were better but because we played to play instead of to complete steps
What a phenomenal video. Love, bravo
I've been playing ESO and I realized I hated group content, pledges force you to group up for a dungeon, your party won't let you experiment, read the quest, explore, nothing, they just rush to the boss and kill it, while I understand it I also hate it, so I've decided to skip that content entirely, I go to each map, complete all quests, side quests, collect everything, achievements and all, and I'm having a blast with my slow journey, funny thing is that I'm noob, barely 1 month in, when I feel like doing veteran dungeons I've seen entire parties being whiped out because they don't pay attention to mechanics, I've found myself having to teach people way ahead of me lmao
Also I don't think MMOs lost their charm, we just became adults filled with responsibilities, goal oriented mindset and completely terrified of the unknown, we removed the fun and wonder aspect of games ourselves. I'm reverse engineering that myself, I'm gonna play GW2 and FFXIV, very, very slowly xD
The thing with gw2 is there is so many currencies. For those new players who wanna craft a legendary I just say good luck with no Google search.
bro learned about playing games for fun, gg
at last siddhartha, you understand
Long time ago when WoW was still new, some one told me that playing low lvl tunes was the best part of the game. It was for the reasons you just said. It was more about all that other stuff in the game. It's a bit sad that the world content is seen as something most people want to water down, so they can skip past it as fast as they can. I have just started a tune in guildwars 2. I will trudge a long and try to enjoy my adventure , wishing you all the same.
1000 of my game time hours is just being ocd and fomo story and map completion and collections so half of my game time is just playing like a kid finding out about the real world, now im at 8000 hours of game time i achieve most of what i wanted and needed and i just play for enjoyment
I find when I go back to gw2 I set myself goals.. but once they start to feel like a chore I stop them and do something else.. Like all mmos you need to take a break and do something else.. if its not gun to do any of it, why do it? I made a ton of gold last month and im happy to now chill and do a weekly static raid and random events in the game. But gw2 didn't click with me for years when jumpuing on and off i didnt understand the end game at all.. Then I made my own adventures and goals, bam in love with it.
Imagine elden ring with no Internet . People talking about quests and spells you never seen before
So u are saying u actually played the rpg part of the game now.
I'm happy for u. 😊
Welcome among us journey enjoyers. There is nothing worng in persuing goals though, but from now on you will know that it is the journey towards that goal that creates the fun. And if it doesn't, it might not be worth it.
See, the problem is, this is what I do from day dot. I then see that the game is built for you; to get anything I have to play the way you always have, and I say no thank you and move on to other games. Have fun and good luck! Nice video though.
Well maybe is try this after 14k hours :D
shit takes 1500 hours to get good and bro acts like he located the promised land 💀think ill spend 1500 hours doing something irl thanks
How did you make your mouse look like that? The little cross hair thing?
Dynamic events in zones increase local heart event completion, other than that great video!
i did a wvw revive perma stealth thief.
is it good? sometimes... i mean it can make people think someone cheats esp if you got 3 of them just waiting till a mate goes down xD
I liked it before it turned full on woke with EoD
That GW1 clip made me well up
And so it begins.
Enjoy. ^^
Play a game to have fun, huh? Who would have thought that is what you are supposed to do...
Great video more people need to see this :)
After 4500 hours of playtime over the past 5 years I must say this is eye opening. 1000+ raid kills, countless days of fractals, yet no really motivation to log in daily and play the game. It just became a sort of routine, something that had to be done, not really for the enjoyment, maybe it felt like a duty. Always built what was meta rather than what appealed to the class fantasy, gearing up for the highest damage, or the most useful healer, only the wardrobe management brought a bit of style to my characters. Just shiny and stylized lifeless characters with random names, the term "tools" fits them so perfectly. Thank you for changing the perspective of a veteran.
thats exactly why i made this video hopefully youll have just as much fun as i am when you slow down with your next character because im having a blast with my Sword/Sword warrior atm :P
For end game group content it's still a good idea to follow a meta build at least somewhat unless you really know what you're doing.
But for open world? Play whatever you like. For example I made myself a flamethrower celestial engineer. Not very good but survivable and fun.
When it comes to wardrobe, I really like myself some more realistic gear instead of the ultra shiny ones so my choices are a bit more limited but I'm fine with that.
I found the use of action cam interesting. Tried it once or twice in the beginning but it never clicked with me and it would be a bit challenging in some boss fights I guess. I also think they improved it a bit from the early days. (And somehow made the regular camera a lot worse.)
This is why I really didn't bother with all the meta or doing what all the "cool players" are doing. I've played the game off and on since launch and keep coming back, and I always want to keep things somewhat fresh for myself. My main is the only one I really care about getting the best stuff for, but I've brought about alts just to experiment with classes and just plain screw around. Just as I tend to make it a point to do the wold exploration the old fashioned way. I have a friend who is thinking of picking the game up, and I will roll a new charater (as well as change servers) to play with her, and I have already told her that we are going to do it the old fashioned way, on foot.
I want to show her how the game was when I started it, with the dynamic events, rather than my usual blowing through content. I want to show her just how vast Tyria is, with how the main game was pretty huge (not as big as WoW's but far better looking), and how there was ALWAYS something to see around the next tree/rock/or off that way. The world of GW2 was never boring for me, and I long since decided to just play the way I want to play, not how the meta says I should.
@@jgkitarel The main issue I have is that at low levels, you don't even have any weapon or utility skills, or weapon swaps, or traits, to mess around with so the game is quite literally just slowly walking around and pressing '1' over and over. That's actually the reason I took several tries to even get into the game way back then.
you're awful, how can you call yourself veteran when you force shit gaming habit onto casual game like guild wars 2
Thanks for this.❤
76 days 869 hours in, I needed to hear this.
If it takes 1500 hours before it gets interesting, I am gonna pass on it
@7:39 that "fck me"was crisp
most ouf us, alrdy adults value the time and dont wanna waste pointless hours grinding stupid things in mmos :D thats what i see nowdays
4:20 is Flax Farming Still a thing?
This is how I play gw2 nowadays!
great video adventurer