Admiral Nagumo Spotted The American Carriers We Knew It Was Over (Ep. 5)

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  • Опубліковано 20 бер 2024
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    This is a series of World War 2 Memoirs Of Japanese Fighter Pilots. We'll tell you stories about people who were really important in history, sharing their own experiences from the war. You'll hear about the smart strategies and sacrifices of those who led the first attack on Pearl Harbor, led air groups from carriers, and flew as dive-bomber pilots. Our special series gives a different view of the Battle of Midway, showing how the Japanese saw it.
    This is part 5
    Playlist:
    Part 1: • The Americans Underest...
    Part 2: • Our Dive Bombers Are F...
    Part 3: • The American Pilots Ar...
    Part 4: • We Will Make The Ameri...
    Part 5: • Admiral Nagumo Spotted...
    Part 6: • Video
    Part 7: • The Bombartment Missio...
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  • @WW2Stories1
    @WW2Stories1  Місяць тому

    Thank you for watching. This video is part of series. Watch the rest here:
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  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 2 місяці тому +6

    Genda's Commentary on reconnaissance...the lack thereof...during the Pearl Harbor Attack....and Midway ...is fascinating. Thank God for Admiral Nagumo...a non-flyer in charge of all the aircraft carriers.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому +2

      This memoir also trashes Admiral Yamamoto. The Japanese Midway operation is trashed in this memoir. In the end it was a close call. The US forces had the benefit of good luck or you could argue that they made their good luck while the Japanese made their bad luck.

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 2 місяці тому

      @@steveschlackman4503 Every battle is won before it is fought.....this was no exception.......Japan was doomed with hubris, victory disease, utter lack of intel and recon, and a serious lack of respect for their foe, the US military. The first real blood drawn by the US was only a few weeks prior. Can't blame them. But they FAFO.
      They didn't;t believe much in anything but aggression, not recon, transport, escort, etc. It was almost insulting to do those duties instead.
      Or even damage control or other precautions. After Midway, they changed a lot of that.

    • @stanfordthompson3958
      @stanfordthompson3958 Місяць тому

      Ll​@@steveschlackman4503

  • @scottryals3191
    @scottryals3191 Місяць тому +2

    The plane that was damaged during the Dutch Harbor raid crashed on Akutan Island. Been there.

  • @davidsmith7372
    @davidsmith7372 2 місяці тому +12

    Doing my part for the algorithm. Don't know why but not my favorite bot voice.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому

      It's a very American voice and is not appropriate for representing someone who is Japanese.

  • @steveschlackman4503
    @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому +15

    Nagumo gets a double Gold Medal for the absolute worst intelligence estimate of the US fleet.

    • @vanzell1912
      @vanzell1912 2 місяці тому

      Japanese intelligence was lacking, just as the intelligence of their allies(Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy ) was lacking. They were doomed from the very beginning.

    • @johnryan8533
      @johnryan8533 2 місяці тому +1

      He seems to have learned wrongitude from Yamamoto.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому

      @@johnryan8533 They had serious attack s of wishful thinking.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому

      The Japanese were suffering from attacks of wishful thinking. The virus called deceive battle infected their brains.

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 Місяць тому

      Nagumo had only his planes at Coral Sea, and at Midway the guard picket boat that reported the Doolittle raid to the home Islands. The pilots reported too many carriers sunk. Then Tone's search plane sighted the Yorktown too late.

  • @doctordetroit4339
    @doctordetroit4339 2 місяці тому +7

    Japan's main problem was their military ethos, which stressed attack, attack, attack.
    Things like recon, transport, etc. were considered insulting. This includes their subs, escorts, transports, everything not aggressively attacking.
    That attitude is why their subs were misused, and why they failed at Midway and elsewhere.
    The kamikaze was the logical but extreme extension of their warrior, aggressive culture.

    • @stevec3526
      @stevec3526 2 місяці тому

      Samurai spirit man…

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. 2 місяці тому +4

    Thanks.

  • @harrymurphey2634
    @harrymurphey2634 2 місяці тому +11

    .... that "downed" Zero changed the course of the war ... the Americans recovered the plane .... repaired the plane to flying condition ... and used to evaluate the "performance envelope" of the "zero" ... and used that information to train the following American pilots ... and that was the one of the reasons the American Pilots where better then the Japanese Pilots ... they knew what the Zero could and couldn't do in air combat ...

    • @kevinrussell1144
      @kevinrussell1144 2 місяці тому +7

      Sure, that helped, but the Hellcat was already on the design board a year before Dutch Harbor, and that plane and the set-up of American pilot development, not the discovery of this plane, were the main factors in American air superiority. We had the back-history and capacity to make a LOT of superior planes and pilots. The Japanese did NOT have that industrial capacity, and owing to their Bushido mindset, they believed a small number of VERY elite is to be preferred over a sh*t-load of very good. They miscalculated.
      Good pilots in durable planes become great pilots, and if you rotate these superior creatures into training, all benefit.

    • @erikschultz7166
      @erikschultz7166 2 місяці тому +4

      @@kevinrussell1144the Zero was not the super fighter it has been described. The Aussies and the AVG used the P40 with much success. Look at the Aussies defense of Port Moresby. Then the Thach weave,and the P38.

    • @kevinrussell1144
      @kevinrussell1144 2 місяці тому

      Couldn't agree more.@@erikschultz7166

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes and no. Their pilots were like pro athletes, very elite but scant in number. Once they ran into decent pilots, things leveled out. Then once the Hellcat came, the Zero was exposed as a death trap. It couldn't take a hit hardly at all.

  • @stevefox7566
    @stevefox7566 2 місяці тому +3

    Midway was the miracle that America needed in the first year of WW2. Before that point, nothing went right for us unless you count the Doolittle raid (I don't). After that point, everything seemed to go our way. And the Japanese losing 4 carriers and so many planes and skilled pilots during Midway had a lot to do with that.

    • @smartbomb7202
      @smartbomb7202 2 місяці тому

      Americans got lucky....these days their luck seems to be running out.

    • @emerkamp1
      @emerkamp1 Місяць тому

      Even if America had lost at Midway, They would have still come back at a later date. What was Japan going to do about it, invade the US. Nope, not enough of Japan to do something like that, esp. when Japan's push was for Australia. Intent was to knock us out long enough to do so. They were over extended, no oil or iron of their own.
      All this while taking into account the Americans main push was in Europe, the Pacific was a side show.

  • @Theearthtraveler
    @Theearthtraveler Місяць тому

    Great account!

  • @adrianreid2055
    @adrianreid2055 Місяць тому

    Totally riveting; almost minute by minute. I have read extensively on the Battle of Midway and yet plenty of interesting detail .

  • @oceannavagator
    @oceannavagator 2 місяці тому +41

    It's unbelievably lazy to use an AI voice of this low quality when just a human reading would make this more enjoyable.

    • @j.dragon651
      @j.dragon651 2 місяці тому +3

      All of these are like this, they just don't get it. Some of the A.I. is atrocious and I can't even watch it. So far this isn't so bad. Closed caption helps sometimes.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому

      While the accent of the AI voice was stupid t😅quality of the AI itself was far superior than on many of the other videos.​@@j.dragon651

    • @RegalBeagle1776
      @RegalBeagle1776 2 місяці тому +7

      I'm actually becoming a bit disgusted with the amount of low effort AI content we've been seeing recently, and it will likely only get worse.

    • @oceannavagator
      @oceannavagator 2 місяці тому

      @@RegalBeagle1776Yeah, it's just laziness, if you can't read out loud for an hour you're just a sorry human being.

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому +2

      You all are fusspots. So the voice is totally inappropriate. The slightly English voice was used for an American GI from Alabama. I puked every time the voice talked white southern US. The AI program is open source and is free for anyone to use. Hard to beat free over paying someone to read a script. What's annoys me is sometimes the voice gets something correct and then butchers it soon after. It is not clear who has allegedly written these memoirs. The POV sometimes switches. The habitual naming of every Japanese officer involved in an operation is unnecessary. I still found the Japanese memoirs more interesting than the German memoirs. There is quite a bit of score settling in the Japanese memoirs. Never forget that these memoirs were written knowing the outcomes.

  • @TRIChuckles
    @TRIChuckles 2 місяці тому +10

    It's a really good story.
    Why do you use AI ? It truly takes away from the story.

    • @stevec3526
      @stevec3526 2 місяці тому

      All these stories are computer read. Get over it.

  • @matismf
    @matismf 2 місяці тому +1

    Prior to the attack, the US had moved their top movie director - John Ford - to Midway to film the attack by the Japanese!

  • @tomwagner1764
    @tomwagner1764 2 місяці тому +4

    The Japanese strike force was already convinced the USN would still be at Pearl. No evidence to the contrary had yet emerged (none confirming, either). It seems like Nagumo put out a search because the book (doctrine) said to. Would Nagumo have pulled assets from the attack force to beef up the search when IJN doctrine stressed the primary importance of the attack? Doubtful...

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 2 місяці тому +1

      They had plenty of other planes to use, but they had an aversion to anything not offense related, including recon. This includes their subs too. Anything. Recon was considered almost insulting, like transport, etc. Attack was glorified. To their detriment.

    • @johnryan8533
      @johnryan8533 2 місяці тому +1

      They expected the carriers to be at Pearl during the 'Battle of Hawaii', wrong; and expected them to be there during the Midway attack, wrong again.

  • @MrDavePed
    @MrDavePed 2 місяці тому

    Operation AI was not at all intended to be a diversion. For it to serve as a diversion it would have had to have been scheduled considerably earlier than it was, so as to draw the enemy carriers farther north. Operation Aleutian Islands was intended to be conducted in tandem with Operation Midway Island in order to secure the flank of the Midway position.

  • @brendastevens1179
    @brendastevens1179 2 місяці тому

    Once more into the breach my friends

  • @kensmith8152
    @kensmith8152 2 місяці тому +1

    The Japanese were hyper focused on the task at hand and over confident of their military prowess to consider any other options!
    The Japanese planners didn’t put enough emphasis on recon!

  • @harrymurphey2634
    @harrymurphey2634 2 місяці тому +1

    Mr Kevin ... I would suggest you please review your history ... Gruman started to design the "Hellcat" in June of 42' ( almost the same time as Midway/Altusions operation ... Capt Duncan ( the 1st Hellcat pilot to shot down a Zero , at Wake Island stated he used the information from the Zero in his decisions in how to combat/shoot down the Zero ) ... same as when the attacked Rabaul just a few months later ... so ... that information was important and put to use ...

    • @robertdendooven7258
      @robertdendooven7258 2 місяці тому

      LOL!! Look in the mirror before accusing someone else of not knowing their history.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat#XF6F_prototypes

    • @harrymurphey2634
      @harrymurphey2634 2 місяці тому

      @@robertdendooven7258 ... then the video I just reviewed/watched here on U-tube has it all wrong I guess ...

  • @charleshotchkiss1813
    @charleshotchkiss1813 2 місяці тому

    The comment about the flare dropped by a Catalina is a new item for me. And the mention of the radio recall signal for lost aircraft alerting US carriers as an explanation for Nagumo not wanting to launch more aircraft is also a new mention. I don't recall either in other histories.

  • @geofromnj7377
    @geofromnj7377 2 місяці тому

    The narrator sounds a great deal like Willie Geist, political commentator and sometimes co-host on the MSNBC show "Morning Joe".

  • @troyjackson3164
    @troyjackson3164 Місяць тому

    The Japanese did not try rescuing downed fighter pilots but left them for dead the same with the army. They did not care if their ships were damaged they just left them to fend for themselves or if abandoning ship they were left

  • @ELOestimates
    @ELOestimates 2 місяці тому +1

    AI is learning slower than advertised. The AI voice makes mistakes on words it had just previously done correctly.

  • @xisotopex
    @xisotopex 2 місяці тому

    didnt the japanese have staff college or something that was analyzing all after ops and identifying weaknesses and reasons for all successes and failures? I mean, that was not a new idea, to study campaigns and understand what happened....

  • @ELOestimates
    @ELOestimates 2 місяці тому +1

    The Japanese code was their greatest foe. This is why they ran out of pilots so quickly; 75% of cadets were washed out due to barbaric Samurai discipline, which required the contest loser to be cut. Great pilots were lost by the dozens on each cycle. Similar behavior ran through the officer corps.
    The enlisted man was dehumanized by the brutality of the NCOs. They frequently faced starvation and supply depravity,

  • @johnryan8533
    @johnryan8533 2 місяці тому +1

    If they hired a professional to read the text we'd all have to pay.
    After all these years this is free because of AI.

  • @riverlady982
    @riverlady982 Місяць тому

    8:53-10:00 the Admiral could have known better or done better if he hadn't assumed so much and I hear constant excuses for what sounds like simple arrogance getting in the way. In fact excuses for arrogance that caused ignorance seems to constantly be avoided as an admitted cause of disaster on the Japanese side throughout all of this. In fact it seems to be an ongoing theme of making all kinds of excuses for arrogance without considering or actually admitting to behaving arrogantly when it seems to be the best description for most of their behavior and mistakes when describing it in my opinion.

  • @stevec3526
    @stevec3526 2 місяці тому +1

    It is pronounced Toneh, and NOT Tone.

  • @manoloaguirre1302
    @manoloaguirre1302 Місяць тому

    Almirante Nagumo, absolutamente incompetente.

  • @Dav1Gv
    @Dav1Gv 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting. 'Time spent in recconnaissance is seldom wasted'. The Japanese seem to have ignored this advice. As usual the AI voice is c**p, if anyone put out a video game voiced like it would flop severly. Is it so expensive to hire someone who can read? I've always felt a bit sorry for Fuchida because I had appendicitis and remember how weak I was after the operation.

    • @WW2Stories1
      @WW2Stories1  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the feedback, we've changed voices for our new videos, give them a watch. We are open to your feedback

  • @peterlewellyn2389
    @peterlewellyn2389 2 місяці тому +2

    Is the narrator an AI voice?

    • @kevinrussell1144
      @kevinrussell1144 2 місяці тому

      wat doo yu thi-ink?

    • @davidparsons3076
      @davidparsons3076 2 місяці тому

      If he's not, he can't pronounce easy words!

    • @ledenhimeganidleshitz144
      @ledenhimeganidleshitz144 2 місяці тому

      Yes. And, is rule-based phonetic rather than context sensitive. Another approach is context analysis. For instance:
      bow (archery)
      bow (ship)
      Are pronounced differently. Searching nearby text would allow a chance of selecting the correct one.
      There are many quirks of English not accounted for context-sensitive dictionary lookup should solve a lot of that. It will probably always sound like reading in direct address.

    • @jackdunn1759
      @jackdunn1759 2 місяці тому

      All the voices in this series are AI

  • @bobharris9830
    @bobharris9830 2 місяці тому

    AI voice from the 1990s

  • @chrisfoxwell4128
    @chrisfoxwell4128 2 місяці тому +3

    Go back to the other voice.

    • @davidphillips6803
      @davidphillips6803 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes please.

    • @WW2Stories1
      @WW2Stories1  2 місяці тому

      Which one, the UK voice?

    • @davidstrother496
      @davidstrother496 2 місяці тому

      An actual human voice, someone that can actually read and pronounce words as they are used in the context of the video.@@WW2Stories1

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому +1

      ​Human readers cost money
      The AI is free.

    • @tomminton5512
      @tomminton5512 2 місяці тому

      Yes. That's what we are used to. ​@WW2Stories1

  • @michaelhill2844
    @michaelhill2844 2 місяці тому +1

    The mispronunciations of this AI narrator are distracting.

  • @ncander64
    @ncander64 Місяць тому

    😂😂😂😂😂The boring voice robs this vid from being interesting, sad.

  • @just_one_opinion
    @just_one_opinion 2 місяці тому +19

    not that voice. dont use that thing.

    • @davidphillips6803
      @davidphillips6803 2 місяці тому +3

      Agree

    • @steveschlackman4503
      @steveschlackman4503 2 місяці тому

      The original sort of English voice is also ridiculous.😅😊😂😅​@@davidphillips6803

    • @TomSkinner
      @TomSkinner 2 місяці тому +3

      Sounds like Tom Bodett in a Motel 6 ad.

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 Місяць тому

      I have poor hearing and this voice is plain and clear and I don't have to slow the speed to understand the narrative.

  • @jeffwhisman7990
    @jeffwhisman7990 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely! Not that voice ever! Bye bye to your channel