Really enjoyed this one, and great comparison. I lean towards the nd-868, e902, or md421. D20 if I'm going for that type of thing. I really like the attack of the 421, but it definitely needs a little bit of sub help from the outside mic. It sounded great here, too. You're making me want an oc7! That thing has some sub wollup happening.
OC7 is incredible! Damn! Otherwise, the M88 is super unique and cool, and the Beta52 (and SM57) are kinda go-to, middle-of-the-road, can always work. I'd be curious to hear the OC7 and EV666 used simultaneously! :) Thank for this awesome video.
@ The Other mics are Great Too. Second mic i would choose The austrian Audio….. Neumann, ev re20 …..love this mics but maybe Not for Kick Drums. And i know they choose The re20 kick in and for Kick out The u47 i believe for The dire straits- Brother in Arms Album, and there it sounds Great.
I have like half of these, d12e, re20, a few 421s, m88, 57s, always come back to the d6... It just always works, and blends with the kit in a way no other kick mic is capable of.
I’ve owned an embarrassing number of kick mics… my desert island kick mic is the $70 Behringer BA19A. It does everything if you need it to. But currently I’m rocking 4 kick mics so I don’t have to change heads or tuning depending on what I’m playing: BA19A, Sennheiser E602 just inside the porthole, Lewitt 640 TS in Supercardioid 6” from the drum, and a Solomon LoFreq. With these 4 mics, anyone can make my kick drum sound like literally anything, from Bonham to Grohl to Lars… Kenny Chesney to Black Dahlia Murder and everything in between, all with the same heads and same tuning, I just change out the muffling and that’s it!
I always throw everything on drums in various ways, just to see what I can get away with, so I found out I like beyerdynamic TG D71c better than anything else on kick drum. It can sound too condensery/open for some projects, then I would go for something like a d112 or re20, they are more retained in details and boxy/old school. I would say Beta52A is actually a very good all around kick mic, the first mic one should buy if it's for client work purposes.
I don’t get your statement that the OC7 is a vocal mic. It’s clear that the OC7 is an instrument mic. It’s like the CC8 microphones but with a body redesigned for drums. It’s an awesome mic, I got them for toms, but I should try it on kick.
Do you like 'em on toms? Do you use AA's tom mount with them? I'm considering getting some to replace my Heil PR-31s for live tom mics. The PR-31s sound pretty good but are too big a lot of the time, and the rim mount is terrible.
I disagree that a Beta 52 is a natural migration from RE20... I like the RE20 because it DOESN'T sound like a B52! ;-) M88 was a pleasant surprise in this test, but I think I'm gonna have to try an OC7. I have a pair of CC8s I use for overheads and they sound amazing! Right now I'm using an sE V-Kick for live use; it works OK.
Wow… you weren’t kidding about the oc7. I must have one now. Otherwise I’d say the beta52 and m88 are runners up. What do you think about the lewitt dtp-640-rex?
Dang that Beyer M88 sounds super tight and punchy. Really like the sound of that one on kick.
I've used an amalgamation of kick mics and one thing I noticed is having a sub kick mic too it's perfect
We love the sub kick!!
The last one was a pleasant surprise!
@@User-jk8wq love oc-7 thanks for watching!
I never used the OC-7 but I am super impressed from this demo! Might have to add that to the arsenal!
@@joshgannet7288 gotta check one out Josh!!
nice video
Really enjoyed this one, and great comparison. I lean towards the nd-868, e902, or md421. D20 if I'm going for that type of thing. I really like the attack of the 421, but it definitely needs a little bit of sub help from the outside mic. It sounded great here, too. You're making me want an oc7! That thing has some sub wollup happening.
@@mattwinegar527 the oc-7 is so awesome!! As is the 421!
I found that an Shure sm48 works extremely well due to its 40hz frequency response and with a little eq it works wonders
Sorry the frequency response is 55 hz to 16k
OC7 is incredible! Damn! Otherwise, the M88 is super unique and cool, and the Beta52 (and SM57) are kinda go-to, middle-of-the-road, can always work. I'd be curious to hear the OC7 and EV666 used simultaneously! :) Thank for this awesome video.
@@Boussani we could film that!!
I enjoyed this analysis! My current setup is a DPA 4055 inside and TF29 outside and I'm really digging it.
Great combo!
puhhh i love the audix mate that brings me right to the ballpark
@@p.m-audio audix is a classic!
@ The Other mics are Great Too. Second mic i would choose The austrian Audio…..
Neumann, ev re20 …..love this mics but maybe Not for Kick Drums. And i know they choose The re20 kick in and for Kick out The u47 i believe for The dire straits- Brother in Arms Album, and there it sounds Great.
I have like half of these, d12e, re20, a few 421s, m88, 57s, always come back to the d6... It just always works, and blends with the kit in a way no other kick mic is capable of.
@@lastboxofsparklers d6 is a classic! Nothing has that click!
The 421 has been my go to. Got sick of the D6.
Iconic knock!
I’ve owned an embarrassing number of kick mics… my desert island kick mic is the $70 Behringer BA19A. It does everything if you need it to. But currently I’m rocking 4 kick mics so I don’t have to change heads or tuning depending on what I’m playing: BA19A, Sennheiser E602 just inside the porthole, Lewitt 640 TS in Supercardioid 6” from the drum, and a Solomon LoFreq. With these 4 mics, anyone can make my kick drum sound like literally anything, from Bonham to Grohl to Lars… Kenny Chesney to Black Dahlia Murder and everything in between, all with the same heads and same tuning, I just change out the muffling and that’s it!
@@BeatsAndMeats all those are killer mics and killer kick drum sounds!
Hometown heroes
Which ones? Austrian?
I always throw everything on drums in various ways, just to see what I can get away with, so I found out I like beyerdynamic TG D71c better than anything else on kick drum. It can sound too condensery/open for some projects, then I would go for something like a d112 or re20, they are more retained in details and boxy/old school. I would say Beta52A is actually a very good all around kick mic, the first mic one should buy if it's for client work purposes.
I agree the Beta 52A is a great starting point!
U47 & 421!
I don’t get your statement that the OC7 is a vocal mic. It’s clear that the OC7 is an instrument mic. It’s like the CC8 microphones but with a body redesigned for drums. It’s an awesome mic, I got them for toms, but I should try it on kick.
Do you like 'em on toms? Do you use AA's tom mount with them? I'm considering getting some to replace my Heil PR-31s for live tom mics. The PR-31s sound pretty good but are too big a lot of the time, and the rim mount is terrible.
@ I read that the FOH sound guy for Slipknot uses them on all their drums, I’ve only recently got mine but they sound fantastic.
Absolutely try it on kick!!!
Haven’t used it on toms yet! We parked it on the kick and we were pretty blown away. Hasn’t moved since
Oh that’s awesome! Eloy probably sounds sick with those
No sennheiser 902?
Nope we don’t have one here!
I disagree that a Beta 52 is a natural migration from RE20... I like the RE20 because it DOESN'T sound like a B52! ;-)
M88 was a pleasant surprise in this test, but I think I'm gonna have to try an OC7. I have a pair of CC8s I use for overheads and they sound amazing! Right now I'm using an sE V-Kick for live use; it works OK.
I've got a feeling you'll really like the OC7!
MD421
The only one I liked was the first one
I agree and I knew that before, the beta 52 is the only kick drum mic I will ever need, and I‘m using it since the 90s.
It’s a classic standard at this point
The Crown sounds surprisingly good within a drum beat, though it's pretty shit on its own. (Or maybe you could call it "stylized" 😉)
Wow… you weren’t kidding about the oc7. I must have one now. Otherwise I’d say the beta52 and m88 are runners up. What do you think about the lewitt dtp-640-rex?
It’s an incredible mic! Thanks for watching! Also haven’t tried out any of the lewitt stuff! Heard great things though