Yes! Ed is a hurting and it transforms in to anger. I love how raw he is and how good Jamie is for him. And of course Ollie and how he also is helping heal him. It’s amazing to see that even alters hurt and have trauma. He has come so far.
I had a persecutor alter who tried to kill me. But it was actually a misguided attempt to "fix" the system's problems. He saw I was hurt very very much and decided "helping commit suicide" was the best solution. We survived and over time this alter went through a transformation and is now one of two of our system's Guardians (aka protectors). Phantom handles our anger and in the beginning that was RAGE, lots and lots of rage. As it transformed, so did he.
Thank you for sharing such a personal story 💛 I think that’s such a good example to use to explain the internalised trauma response persecutors have. Really happy you guys have overcome and are doing better 🙌🏻
how did you make contact with them after he had tried to hurt you? our brain has shut off ours in a corner and we can’t access him. good for coping, not so great for healing sometimes... - a fellow system
Wow thank you so much for sharing. Because I (the front) feel so alone. I am trying to come to terms with having DID. I have an aspect that is trying to kill me. It's like you described. My counsellor doesn't think it's an aspect though, that's a manifestation of trauma. But my other aspects do not resonate with that perspective, and do not react to it's presence that way. I'm having a really really difficult time. Does anyone here (I know this was posted years ago, but it's worth a shot) have any advice on handing an aspect filled with pure rage, that feels suicide is the only option for me (I'm the front) and the rest of my system? Thanks so much if anyone replies. Seriously, thank you.
@@dear-pixel-heart hi...I'm not a multiple, but your story scared me so the only thing I can offer is if you can talk to your therapist/Dr about it? Or maybe a hospitalization might protect you for now? I'm sorry I can't offer more, but please take care ♥
"No Alter is Bad." Reading/hearing that one line made me burst into tears. I was close to a couple of the persecutor/"bad" alters in my friends system before they intergrated, but one in particular, I was his only friend. He literally embodied the labels everyone gave him - ie, that he was aggressive, nasty, and dangerous - to everyone around him - both inside and outside the system. Everyone was terrified of him. Even in the tiny scrawny body, he could take down guys twice the bodies size in a fight, and they'd be scared of him. Because that was the only way he knew to keep the body safe. It broke my heart talking to others, who would either call him that sort of thing to me, or when other alters told me some of the abhorrent stuff he had done inside. I felt like I was the only person who ever gave him the chance to just be kind and safe. He was always so soft and gentle with me, caring and considerate, no one else would believe the things I'd say about him. Everyone was so caught up in the idea that he was Bad and never going to change. I honestly don't think he ever would of if I hadn't stuck by him as a genuiene friend through all of that. Me accepting him for what I knew he could be, rather than the role he was forcing himself to play helped him so so much, and it was incredible seeing the person he eventually blossomed into before intergrating. And it's 100% true - Bad alters are not evil, they're just hurting. And they don't know how to handle it healthily.
Your comment brought tears to my eyes :'). I am a system of 60+ and my 3rd split at the age of 6 was a British demon named Dominik who is a persecutor. He would absolutely destroy the body in different ways. He hates me but he hated me to a terrifying extent back then and for many years thereafter. No one understood him or wanted to. I tried but he would just yell and scream at me, horrible things id rather not repeat. When my girlfriend and I officially moved in together she found out about him and he hated her to the point of wanting her dead. He never physically or emotionally hurt her but verbally it would get ugly. They had many fights and he'd take it out on the body. I warned my girlfriend that there was a massive chance he would never come around because he was not open to it at all and he hates everyone. But she just kept going with him. She showed him kindness, true friendship, understanding, love and a new view of the world. It has been almost 3 years since then, the body has not been harmed or abused ( at least, not badly or to the point of near death), and Dom and my girlfriend have been a couple now for going on a year and a half... The changes that came from him because of her... I cant explain it. Yes he still loaths the thought of my existence but he is no longer lashing out or severely harming or mauling the body. Your story and all the absolutely amazing and above and beyond treatment you blessed that alter with reminds me so much of my amazing girlfriend. You guys are what D.I.D systems need in their lives. Youre one of a kind and so very, very hard to find. You changed that alters life just as my girlfriend changed Dom's. I just wanted to say thank you, truly and deeply, thank you. I wish nothing but the best for you throughtout your life journeys and hope you'll get to help another alter one day as you did for the previous one. Youre changing lives that most people believe dont matter. Never lose your light, you'll be burning long after everyone else has died out. Your guidance, acceptance, love, respect and heart will save more lives. Thank you for the gift of you :'). Sincerely, Alex and the system
@@TheDemon3666 What you wrote moved ME. I don't have DID, but I'm so happy for your overall progress as a system and for Dominik's individual progress. I'm also sorry you had to face the confusion you would have had about having alters at such a devastatingly young age. You're very strong to have coped with that. ❤
@@TheDemon3666 This brought me to tears for a good few minutes omg (im very weepy rn apparently lol). I don't know that I can really put my thoughts on this down well, I'm just struggling to find words that explain it and how i feel, but here goes! I'm sorry you all had to go through those hard times, but I am so, so happy he has someone he can open up to. I really hope he (and of course, all of you too) can continue to heal, and hopefully work together, even if it never developes into anything more friendly. Its so wonderful to me, too, to know that there are others out there who are willing to put in the hardwork to help those struggling alters. And your/their story is really one that, to my mind at least, is extremely beautiful. I really really hope that all others who are hurting like that can find someone willing to put the effort in. As for the last section, I don't really know that I deserve that praise, but god, it really means the world to me, and I really needed to here that. Sometimes it feels that I'm not especially great at helping - especially when it comes to my own system - and I've been real down recently. The fact I can feel how heartfelt you meant that radiating through this post means more than I can possibly put into words, but it's really made me want to continue to try and help where I can, and to continue to work on bettering myself fully. I think I've run out of words for now, cus writing this made me cry again, but really, and truly, thank you
@@PrincessTokyoMoon sweetheart, you are worth all the praise that is to be had and SO much more. I'm sorry I made you cry, I'm a very intense person but I'm also brutally honest and say what i feel when I know it will be truly heard and felt. Thank you, so, so much for your kind words and amazingly enough, Dom even said thanks X') even he knows a blessing when he sees one. You make all the difference and have so much meaning to your life. You have a system and you STILL shine that bright and carry so much positivity and love for those you know are hurting. Please don't ever think little of yourself. I cant express enough or find the right words to explain how important you and your system are. Everything will be ok, in time all good things come to pass and everything happens for a reason. YOU happened for a reason. Never forget that.
@@Sara-ur8fv thank you so much for your kind words, it means more than you know :) having it at such a young age ( my first split was at the age of 3) wasnt all bad, he may be a persecutors but the things he did knocked sense into me and he saved my life more than once and I can never thank him enough. I wish you nothing but the best and thank you for endless miles for having an open and accepting mind and a kind and loving heart. Many thanks and hellos from our system to you. -Alex
I had a persecutor who tried to suicide bait me, under the belief that if I were to die, they would be able to take over as the host. I used to speak to this alter in hatred until it was suggested that I should treat them kindly and thank them for trying to help in the way that they thought would work, but offering a better way to move forward. Over time and recovery this alter became very very close to me, they actually became one of my most compassionate alters once they learned how the world worked, and we eventually integrated. I also had another persecutor who split off of the first, who showed me terrible things and harmed my body in order to keep me afraid and vigilant and aware that the world was a "horrible place." This recovery was harder because he didn't have a childlike mindset as the first did, but the recovery still happened. Or, I guess, is still happening.
How do you guys speak To each other? You Just talk To any of them as you are in the same room all the time? They all feel and experience the same thing? Like, am I talking To one or all of you at the same time? Im sorry, im Just truly curious about this. I Love the videos and i Love To learn more about it :)
Well I'm kinda integrated now, or, well, working on it, so I'm not quite a system now. But when I first discovered my alters, we could only communicate through leaving notes. Then as we began to accept that each other existed, we gradually became more able to be conscious at the same time and talk to each other that way. They weren't always all awake at the same time, that would get really confusing. Alters usually switch out and take turns controlling the body. The more videos you watch on the subject the more you'll understand :) it's a complicated disorder and it's a lot to explain so it's probably too much for one comment.
This reminds us of our Alistair, who used to refuse to even go by a name, and would always try and convince Alex, one of our other alters who used to self-harm, that he wanted to take the next step to suicide. Luckily the rest of us were able to intervene, and we're past that and all functioning better as a system now. ~Silas
Talyta Issa Our communication process has been evolving for many many years and with some assistance for three years. (YOB 1968) I really like what one of my assists did as he met with us for several weeks. It started with a giant diagram of a bus as though you were looking at the seating layout with the roof removed. The support person came up with the idea. He told me on the first day, “there’s as many seats on this bus as need be” AND “nobody gets thrown off the bus, nobody gets tossed under the wheels”. It was a very interesting process seeing how certain parts didn’t want to sit anywhere near another part on the bus. Looking at what colors they chose to write with. Seeing how much they wanted to say or how little they had to say. Eventually it became clear that some facets have no power of speech whatsoever. The crushing pain in the center of my spine is one of them. There are several varieties that are without verbal or written communication. Some can rely on an interpreter translating emotions into words that they either agree with or disagree with. It’s very complex in our system. Still don’t have a headcount. Still don’t have consistent functionality for “real life”. I guess it’s a lifelong work in progress. Thank you for your curiosity. Your questions help me express myself in words.
@@NeonGreyscale I know it's been a long time since you have replied here, but can I ask you few questions if you find comfortable to ans? You said you are kinda integrated now, can I ask you how you did that I mean what was the process? And how many alters you had then and how many are left now? And can there be only two alters in a body like one host and one more alter?(but both don't remember which one was the original one, I mean don't know which one is the host) or is it necessary to have more than two alters for a person to have DID and how frequent is it? And how do you know if you really have did or other disorder where you hear voice in your head like schizophrenia? Sorry if it's a lots of questions but can you answer them if you feel comfortable?
Wow, very well said! It just shows that even if an individual has or is struggling, they have the potential to rise up once again and become their very best self!
Hello there. I myself used to be a persecutor. The relationship with our system host used to be really bad. As a trauma holder, I took out my anger and my frustration on Avery, our host. I eventually began hurting the body. Not to hurt Avery, not to hurt anybody else but me. I thank you for this video. It helped educate our system lots about me, and that I wasn’t “bad” but just in pain. But after seeing videos like these, Lily, our system caretaker, reached out to me. I now have a protector role in our system. -Raven
i feel like i might have alters i made up few personas for me a month before i know what DID/OSDD was, and i kinda got claims of who i was feeling like... i made up the personas cause my sensitivity levels, trigger levels, feelings and opinions would just change randomly & i didnt fit in one style one of the personas i named Daki,, when im her i feel pathetic miserable worthless and wanna k*ll myself, i even scratch myself.. i/daki likes hurting others, hurting herself, has trust issues and gets triggered easily... is there a chance they are real alters? i have no idea what to do with daki me :(
I came across your channel about a year ago now because I was wanting to write a story about a detective with DID, where one of the alters was the killer in the case he was assigned to. When I found your videos, I realized how little I actually knew about DID and how immensely media has skewed the reality of this condition and how dangerous that can be. Suffice to say, I've decided to leave that story unwritten. I can't thank you enough for making videos like this to teach the truth about DID and bring uninformed people like myself to a better understanding 💕
It would probably be interesting if the host alter became convinced that the persecuter was the killer but learned that he was actually trying to aid in the investigation and through therapy was able to help integrate him into the system. Obviously you’d have to have the help of someone who actually experiences DID and an expert to make sure the story was told accurately and respectfully but it would be an interesting story that could raise awareness about a severely misunderstood condition.
i'm so grateful you did your due diligence and realized you knew less than you should for the project you wanted to work on. thank you for keeping those of us who struggle with this disorder in mind. -Sam (Sylvar System)
AGREE. James McAvoy says he studied DID by watching videos made by people with DID. And yet he still decided to make that horrible movie. Obviously he really didn’t learn anything and doesn’t care about people with DID other than to exploit them. I lost so much of my huge respect for him. He used his information to create a more convincing portrayal without any consideration for the damage he was doing.
In the famous words of like every single professor ever: "correlation is not causation." Even if having D.I.D and 'bad alters' was found with people who did bad things doesnt mean that D.I.D. is the cause. And it's important people know this. I'm so glad this channel exists for the reason 💗💗
Since people who suffered from abuse can sometimes reproduce the abuse that they lived through, people with DID may be affected by this mechanism too. But they aren't more dangerous than other people.
This video was so emotional and relatable. I used to be a persecutor alter and actually have a lot in common with Ed. The hardest part of recovery for me was losing my sense of self. I felt like if I changed and ditched all of these bad habits that I would no longer be me. I thought that the horrible things I did defined me and that without them I wouldn't be a person anymore. Obviously this isn't true. As I started to recover I started to find out who I really was and disassociated myself from all of those bad habits. I'm still me just without all the bad stuff. Thank you so much for all of your amazing videos. They mean a lot to a lot of people. -Dean
Our persecutor is such a sweetheart at heart, just riddled with anger and pain. We love him, and hope that he’ll learn to see himself like we do him :) Thanks for making this video! It’s so good to see good and positive stuff on persecutor parts! Much love from the Beloved System!
I recently got diagnosed with DID and ever since then my alters have become more...self aware of who they are and what their roles are. My (or our) persecutor is very angry and scared and sometimes those emotions overwhelm the both of us, which causes her to act out in very scary ways. I've been trying to "lock" her away, but after seeing this, I wanna try a new approach. She's never experienced genuine kindness and after watching Jamie talk about Ed and their approach, I'm ready to show her that kindness.
This really hit home with one of our persecutors. Petal used to have a really bad problem with her weight, which comes from her being a teenage girl who cares what others think. She would get so mad at us for eating, and would try to limit everything we eat, getting mad if we let the littles have ice cream or anything along those lines. Petal eventually worked through this, but it was a hard time for all of us, and we are just great full to have it be behind us. ~Silas
Never commented before but just had to say that this was fascinating insight. Even those of us without DID could implement the idea of giving patience and care to ourselves
Fritz Bo Possibly shows insight how people can better understand other people generally. The personalities happen to be in the same body, but others who have one still have a personality and the system for them is the world itself with all these people in it. Multiple personalities is only as dangerous as all people with at least one. D.I.D doesn't change it that much. It's just more like a brain becomes like a shared apartment building or ship. People with one personality can have the same influences or mindsets. What they protect is whatever they value or choose. I hope D.I.D can show more people about personality itself. It's so very rooted in our overall functionality it seems mad in itself that we can understand so little about it. Maybe all the stereotypes of "good" and "bad" did some damage. Now we have a mess to clean up.
I think what some people aren't considering/realizing is this: I, as someone who does not have DID but an integrated psyche, have a persecutor as well. All I have to do is go upstairs into the bathroom and look in the mirror to see him. We all persecute ourselves at times, everyone has the potential to be self-destructive, integrated or not. Thank you for this, Jamie; I appreciate your eloquence very much.
could you make a video showing Ed's art? like an online art gallery, i've been curious about what his art is like since you've talked about it in a couple of videos
Ruben Caballero oh my if he'd be comfortable to show it then yes please! That'd be wonderful! ♡ Unless it'd be too stressful or anything like that then please let him know not to worry about it ♡♡ -Nez
So when my boyfriend first told me about his alter he said oh Ben is a bad guy he’s aggressive and threatening and has broken someone’s arm because he knew it would hurt me and I had to explain to him that Ben is a persecutor he’s not a bad alter I’ve met Ben and he’s such a loving caring guy and has such a big heart he was hurting because of what my boyfriend had done to him and the way he treated him it was because of the stuff I’ve learned from you guys and what you’ve shared that I was able to help them get along and try to understand each other little did they know how much they can be alike but that’s also probably part of the reason they didn’t like each other in the beginning because they’re both stubborn and argumentative and when you put two of those people in one body and they disagree it can get messy but now they work really well together those alters that people consider bad just need to be worked with have someone say they’re on their side and want things to get better for everyone
I think this was SUCH an important video. Helping explain that essential alter or not turn to anything to find a release from "the bad" is what one is searching for a lot of the time. Thank you for everything you guys do.
We loved this video so much. I am the main protector and was split to protect the body from our persecutor, so I totally get what you're saying. I found Alexia (persecutor) was actually pretty good at managing confrontation. It's ironic because she is actually full of emotions but, when needed, she can brush them off because of her emotional detachments. She's not a villain. More like an anti-hero. -Antef
I've never clicked so bloody fast on a notification before! Needed this video so much, thank you for making it! (I've been struggling with this myself as I'm in the eariler stage of healing and accepting my protector/ persecutor)
Thanks for doing this Jamie. As you probably already know from all the comments, I think this was right on. 👍🏼. Alters CAN be scary but befriending them changes EVERYTHING. And, as you also pointed out, giving them different experiences helps them to understand and love the outside world. Once it isn’t so scary, they and everyone else in the system can relax. Thanks again Jamie for this excellent video.
Majority of people have gray areas. No one person is all good and all bad. Alters are the same, because they are people too. I’m very similar to Ed, in that I hold trauma from my childhood and teen years, I pushed people away, and can let go of relationships easily, and used to party a lot... I’ve done a lot of work to become a stronger, healthier both mental and physical, and although I have my bad days, overall, I’m much better. And I’m only one person. Alters are people too. I am so happy for Ed for making the progress and healing for himself and your system. ♥️
Thank you. This means a lot. I am a persecutor. I used to leave threatening messages to the host. I would harm the body and scare other friends. I am now trying to flip a page on this. I hold lots of trauma, and i felt like it was my job to show them how bad people are. I was aggressive, reckless, and always adrenaline filled. I hold trauma of the family caused by them. I still find myself enraged by them, still struggling, but i am trying to change. I was placed under lockdown for two straight years. Couldnt come out... this was lonely and painful. I turned to exercise to release my pain. I am, 5 days into my newfound freedom, and i want to make the most of it. I don't know how or why i was given a chance, i plan to use it. We are not all bad or all evil, misunderstood is the word. I opened up to the family, just let them know how this impacted me, the consequences were not good, but I am trying to figure it out. Thank you... -Ambyx
We have a few maladjusted alters. None of them are bad, and we are hugely advocates for "persecutors" because within and without people treat them like they are a disease to be purged, but they are in fact, just in pain, or feel like they need to do something to protect the system. We don't call them persecutors, we instead say they are maladaptive or we say "they have things they are always getting better with, but have a long road to travel. so be nice to them"
Thank you for sharing, it's people like you and others who have developed the courage to be open and help change the stigma. I don't have DID but I have a passion for mental health and well-being and I see the beauty in others looking at people's journeys and seeing they can change and work to get to places of stability, co existence, live. Every video opens my eyes, and helps me become less ignorant or blind x
Thank you so much for this insight Jamie, the person I love has a persecutor that I very much struggle to get on with and make sense of a lot of the time, I think what was talked about in this video will help me moving forward!
Our system contains both a persecutor and a perpetrator. They're both learning to be part of the system but it takes time. Like you said, Jaime, treat all parts with patience and kindness. Thanks for uploading this
I haven't even clicked on it yet and was only watching the preview thingy without the sound and immediately known I was watching Jamie XD. The personalities are so distinct in behaviour that you can tell who is fronting if you've studied each alters characteristics, behaviours, and mannerisms.
I showed this to my husband’s system when they had a persecutor wake up that we were worried about. They showed it to the persecutor and he calmed down a lot. It really made him think and slow down. It’s only been a few days but I can see he is trying to be better. Thank you for this. 💜
This is good advice in general not just for persons with DID. Loving all parts of yourself is so important and being patient and kind is so important. This was just the advice I needed.
Now this is where I was searching for the last year. I myself have a very destructive alter and it’s the only one I have a sorta stable connection with, I’m a bit scared of them because they are like you said big bark no bite. Thank you for sharing even though I’m late.
I don’t have DID, but I do have a “part” of me that is separate to “me”. I’ve often felt like I have two brains. That other part of me is traumatised and wants to push people away so that they can’t hurt me, is so scared of trusting people and can lash out, much like Ed. I’m working with my therapist on it, but finding this video helped me feel less alone, even though I don’t have DID. Thanks Jamie, and Jess, I’m so happy that you’re healing.
Dear Jamie, dear Multiplicity & Me, thank you for making this Video. I can only underline what you Said about persecutors. In our system, Elisabeth is the strongest persecutor. She used to be a collection of all the harmful Things that have ever been said to me and she forced Dylan, another alter of mine, to the back, everytime he was triggered to come out. Only when she talked to a friend, she noticed that she had fallen for the very words that created her and she broke down. Nowadays, she is much calmer and decided to guide me instead of insulting and belittling me. She is not yet at the point to let go of her fears and concerns, but she developed to the part that kept me alive when I was having panic attacks or suicidal tendencies. She is a diva, but also a motherly figure in my system and even though there still remains a little bit of fear, I am thankful for having her. Without her, I wouldn't have made it.
I have one main persecutor (Scarlett) who self harms a lot and is very angry and two that walk the line of persecutor and protector (they devalue/idolise me I also have BPD so that is probably subconsciously drawn from it) Bella and Luca, but they mostly only hurt others who are hurting me. To protect and save us, like one of my bad teen traumas happened and when I was a victim of a hate crime. I try to justify they anger and say it's okay to be mad but not justify the behaviour. I feel scared of mine because I feel if I was really pushed to the max what could I actually be capable. I'm capable of violence and have invasive thoughts of harming others but I am not truly capable of murder, so they can't be either I hope! Thanks for sharing this, I broke down completely watching this because I have spent so long calling them mean and bad and admonishing them, and it's no surprise they won't work with me a lot of times. I love all of my alters, I just get scared and I'm ashamed of the wounds and scars, and of pushing people away. My alters mostly pretend to be me around my friends unless they are triggered out. I will be discharged from therapy and MHS end of next month so I don't know what I will do to continue my recovery after that.
I can really relate to this, we are a poly fragmented system and we've had many persecutors start to heal and change for the better. Many of them still struggle, but it's getting better. We do have some we worry about because we know they were made to hurt others outside our body when we were young and they have made threats of doing so again to my child. So, we are afraid they will hurt the child I have out here, so for now we keep them inside. I hope someday we can reach them and help them, for now though I have to ensure the safety of my daughter by keeping them away from her. I don't think as a whole we could hurt a kid, but I also know reenacting trauma with others is a coping mechanism that exists and I have to protect my daughter from that pain, especially because I as an alter have dealt with messed up wiring from the abuse and have had to work hard to correct that. For example, I have struggled with behaviors in my past that could be harmful to a child, so I don't want to risk anything bad happening.
My absolute bestest friend in our system used to fight me on everything, and would constantly bully and hurl insults at me. But we talked, I kept pushing to be kind and now? She’s our fiercest protector and a truly amazing friend.
Thanks for the segment Jamie! I learned a lot from this video ❤️ I’m a trauma survivor, and though I don’t have DID, I found the sentiments in the video so helpful for me and my own self destructive tendencies. My brain has learned some not so great protection tactics over the years, but I’m working on learning better, less harmful ways of protecting myself. Thank you 😊❤️
So, in many ways, the "persecutors" are the same as those who are abused as children and follow through to become the abusers as adults in later life. It's a matter of breaking the cycle so that they can become who they may be without causing either internal or external trauma. If I would ever get to meet all you alters, I would give you all a hug because I so easily identify with not so much DID, but with my own experience as an empath.
Our persecutor--Null--is very harsh. He endured our most traumatic years and we only just recently learned of his presence because he became known via being spoken of by another alter, Traumerei. This video + DissociaDID's persecutor videos have helped so incredibly much. I never thought of Null as 'bad' per se, but his violence due to fear and anger is very intense and thus it's hard for me to help him when I become fearful (which provokes him unintentionally--you're scared of my anger, thus I am "bad" and like our abusers). I believe this can help me calm myself and work with my system to help Null on his own road to recovery. It's hard and only just beginning, but I believe in us. And you guys have helped so much! And also, very belated, but I am still incredibly proud of Ed. Of all of you. Take care. - Crow (they/he), Arcturus System
We have a persecutor named Bucky who is much more recently discovered so he isn't anywhere near as recovered as your Ed is, but he's in a lot of pain and we're trying to reach out to him and help him and rehabilitate him as much as I can. And I do agree with you, Jamie -- in my experience, persecutors are just protectors who don't have access to healthy coping skills.
EXTREMELY helpful, thank you Jamie! The way you put it, that an alter wouldn't do something the whole collective isn't capable of doing, has actually cleared up things for me, too! Thank you so much for running this informative channel!
I love this channel's mental health talk. Even though I don't have DID, the explanations are easily understood and applicable to anyone. I'm relatively new sub binging these vids, you guys help a lot with my anxiety!
I’ve started to meditate 2 weeks ago... after years of misdiagnosed bipolar and taking meds to no prevail. One of my protectors came forward 3 days in. He wanted to tell me he’s not the one doing all the terrible things but he held all the pain and guilt that “someone else” caused. I guess he isn’t a bad person. I’ve only just started my healing and I have so far to go but it’s nice to get a bit of an idea why I do silly things sometimes. And that there is some form of unity inside me. Thanks for sharing.
I have watched every video your system has made, and by far, this is one of the most educational one I have seen! I have always felt the persecuter alter always gets a bad wrap and it makes me cringe when the term 'bad alter" is used. They are the ultimate protector and I'm glad your system helped Ed to find alternate ways to express his pain/issues.
Thanks Jamie. I’m still wrestling with persecutor habits. It just feels familiar to be in crisis mode and lashing out, or turning inwards to heighten the pain there. At least I know now that that isn’t normal, and I have the occasional day when I can relax before I panic again about why I don’t feel bad right now. My head mates are being super supportive though, couldn’t ask for more from them. -Al
This one is so hard for me, right now. I have two persecutors in my system, I think (I'm only two weeks into my diagnosis and still reeling). One was the only part I knew about in high school. The other came through and screamed in my journal about how furious they are we've uncovered this and how they absolutely under no circumstances want any form of communication with us. it was shocking and painful. I know they are hurting, that much is clear. and I think part of them is ashamed at how they've treated our body for so many years. but their anger right now is something I can't deal with, so I'm giving them what they want and leaving them alone. For now.
Why did I start crying? I'm so so so proud of Ed. (I don't know what has happened personally and I don't know more that what has already been said) but I feel like a proud little sister, I guess. I'm so glad I found this channel ❤️❤️
That wall behind you is absolutely gorgeous. Those metallic looking geometric shapes take on a beautiful iridescent hue that I guess I’ve never noticed before?? But it’s dope. Great content as well!! Much love xx
It's so wonderful seeing a troubled alter slowly heal. I'm so happy for Ed. Thank you for this video, it made me tear up a bit. I look back to what our persecutor has done and what we needed to do to help him slowly understand that he's not the monster everybody thought he was.
Hi, my name is drew, I'm a persecutor alter, and this was really helpful to me, because I feel like everyone around me and in our system hates me because I'm bad. And I want to try make it better, but I don't know how, I didn't realize how much harm I was and am doing and I don't know how to stop it all.
Learning to work with your persecutors in your system is one of the most difficult and the most rewarding things someone with DID can do. I completely agree do it with a therapist. Labeling an alter as bad brings more problems than it solves.
Yeah, none of our friends know either. They just think I don't pay attention to what they are saying. It makes me kind of sad, knowing they think I don't care. ~Silas
We are the same way. I protect us and am out most of the time, I rather deal with the shit and keep us safe. But I know they don't like how rude I am, I don't think I'm rude and I don't know how to change it. Neither do they. Sigh.
Watching this channel always makes me feel so proud in general for EVERYONE who is struggling... But this video especially made me feel very proud of Ed (and Jess) for having come such a long way in their recovery.
Have been gotten lost watching your videos the past 2 days. I have always had a fascination with DID, marveling at how the brain works. I just checked your IG as I was curious if you had posted anything recently, since there hadn't been any new videos, and I am SO happy for you, I literally teared up reading your post. Best wishes to you and your family.
I was just scrolling through the comments, and I was surprised when I saw our profile in the comments, and then I realized Silas already watched this video! It's scary how similarly we can think at times! ~Tom
Yes, so helpful! I'm in the process of reaching out to my "bad" part; and he and I are brainstorming ways he can let the anger out. I only thought to try and reach out to him after Jess shared that line about no one being a bad alter, and so seeing this video now is perfect timing for reinforcing the way I approach our relationship. One day, I hope to not be afraid of him at all and that he'll feel like he can express himself in a constructive and healthy way, because he definitely has a lot going on in there from what little I can see.
I cried when you were explaining Ed's struggles. I am so happy for the progress he's made! Also I don't even have DID and I think I just learned a little bit about myself! Thank you
Really wonderfully put Jamie! I studied psychology at uni and have always been interested in anything to do with behaviour and more unknown disorders like DID. Your whole family are so beautiful! I love hearing about how you help each other and the way you explain what Ed was going through and how he healed and was helped by people was so articulately put! I admit that I've always been fascinated by the darker side of the human psyche and I did enjoy the movie "Split" and was impressed by McAvoy's acting but was never under the impression that it was common for anyone with DID to be that way. I've even done my best to educated other people I've spoken to about the film who have sensationalised and vilainised people with DID. You guys are doing great work with this channel and I hope you'll keep educating and reducing the stigma that surrounds DID. If any of you read this, please say hi to everyone for me and give Jake a big hug from me! (His accent has been helping me relax since I found your channel)
It continually amazes me how intelligent and compasionate you all are. I don't have DID, but as a person with severe depression I find that your videos help me to stop being so hard on myself. They calm me too. The strange thing is I didn't really know anything about DID, then I saw the bad movie (split) and decided I wanted to know more. So I looked it up on UA-cam and Poof.. There you were! I have so enjoyed getting to know all of you, I've watched every video and can't wait for more. I can't imagine how hard it has been for you to learn all these things about yourself, but I am amazed and greatfull that you have because your also helping me. Sending all the love I can your way.
This is so incredibly insightful, and can even be helpful for people who struggle with any other mental disorders to better understand themselves. For example, I struggle with depression and anxiety, and for a period of time in my life struggled with suicidal thoughts. It wasn't until therapy that I came to understand that there was a part of me, a protective part, that thought I was unsafe so decided that suicidal thoughts/suicide were the only "options" I had to keep myself safe. So although I don't have DID, I relate to this so deeply. Thank you so much for sharing and educating!
I have been exploring multiplicity lately and this video was very helpful. I like what you said about labeling alters as "bad." If my disassociation really is the result of past trauma, then I'm not going to repeat it with my alters; I won't abandon them just because they are problematic or difficult to understand. I will give them all of the love and kindness I lost out on. Maybe by doing that, I... all of us... can heal.
our persecutor is pretty chilled out luckily, hes lashed out and harmed us a few times but we were all going through a bad time back then. currently we're working on getting him to hate us a little less and to communicate how he really feels :] -kaz
I love how you guys have put a clip of Ed being cute and making food in the corner but also all the explanations ♡♡ -Nez ps. I sril can't get over the head piece that Ed had put on in that older video it's adorable while still kind of on the edgier side of things and honestly that's always a really really loud YES from me!
Really missed you, Jamie! So proud of how far the system has come on this topic ❤️ also, that hypothetical situation was so relatable to me. I had an eating disorder and it was so enlightening for me to learn that although it was a very harmful and misguiding coping mechanism, it was indeed an effective coping mechanism and in fact may have saved my life at some points. This realization allowed me to stop hating myself for having this disorder and instead give myself some grace. I was just doing what I needed to do at the time to continue living.
I have an alter who is homicidal. She really scares me and gives me intrusive thoughts about killing people and animals. I can’t help but think she is bad but I might try to look at her differently after this video. I don’t know what trauma she’s gone through but my therapist said that she might have felt powerless at one point in her life. Thanks for talking about this.
I find it so reassuring that this happens to other people too... The matter of dissociative disorders has finally been found out in my life I guess. I just straight up and down lied and said I was fine, even after a literal life-or-death experience. For years I wonder why the meds hardly worked, and it makes more sense now. I do see a psychiatrist and therapist but don't know where to start. I don't feel like going through symptoms cause you guys (comments section included) probably know most of them. They have told me small amounts of information but I'm overwhelmed. I also have bipolar 1 w/psychotic features, ocd, and ptsd. I don't necessarily have names for the them when they come around, except for one, Andy. The other parts of me I have yet to become aware of... I feel as though myself, Jacob (and yes that is my name I'm not kidding lol) is trapped in a little tiny box when it happens and I cant figure out what goes on when it happens, just snap shots. For years I just thought it was my bipolar, and I'm sure some or a lot of it was, but during the most intense of swings (so I thought were swings but at some point I dont know if it matters) I really don't know or remember who or what I am/was, other than being somewhat aware that I'm not the peaceful person I usually am. Lately though, things like that happen more often and more intense, and for longer periods of time. So I guess learning all this about myself; the stuff that I was just... raised not to talk about as a child, is weird, fascinating (I'm big on psychology/psychiatry), and most of all scary. Like today I found out I helped a friend move some furniture... I don't even know when, I guess recently, and no idea for how long I saw him etc. etc. and just found out last night. That scared me If someone could guide me to the first step of recovery it would mean so, so much. If you actually read this far, thank you
I'm so proud of Ed, the other alters, Jess and Gaz. I loved Ed from the first time I saw him. I seem to relate to him a lot, but I stead of physic harm I had mental and emotional harm to myself. I goes that's why I always try to treat others kindly. We don't know what they are going through, or what they live with on a daily basis. I know for me personally when I was at a very low point in my life I had someone tell me I was a very beautiful person inside and out, and that was new for me. It made me feel good and to this day I compliment and make others laugh to make their days a little better even for a little while
Thank you Jamie. I have learned a lot from you and the other boys as well as Jess. We (my crew and I) are learning to work together but it is very hard for everyone to be on the same page sometimes. I am proud of your journey and hope our journey is as productive and healthy as yours.
Great Video, Jaimie! We love how you can hear your love of Ed in your voice when you talk about him. We are so happy that everyone is healing, but especially Ed. He seems to have came into his own, and it's been a privilege for us, especially me, to watch and learn from his journey, these past years. Give everyone our love! -Mila "The Symbiote System" (Still working on our system name, so far, this is most of us' favorite)
Persecutors as a misguided protector? Woah. We have some thinking to do. Thank you so much, Jamie (and Ed, mate you're amazing, how you function through the noise astounds me). Woah. What a balm.
You are all amazing! How brave you are to make these videos to educate people about D.I.D. You have embraced this illness, which I can only emagine is incredibly challenging, and have turned it into something so possitive, educational, and inspiring! I'm sure all this footage documenting your case will allow yourself and researchers make ground breaking discoveries for D.I.D. You are a blessing 💜 You are so incredibly strong to be able to take hold of your trama and not only overcome and work through it, but to have turned it into something so positive.
I myself grew from a persecutor through to host and even I have to admit I was a horrible person, constantly lashing out at others at the slightest provocation and genuinely thought I was in the right because it either kept me safe or gave me the tiniest bit of power. It wasn't until others began to gradually come to help me understand why I didn't need to act like that did I realise how wrong I had been acting. I have become a fuller, better person simply by no longer feeling the mentality of "If they want to see a monster then I'll show them one." It wasn't by locking me away or by forcing me to suffer that made me a better person, it was simple love and compassion. -Vincent of the Triumvirate System
Jamie, I love your videos. You are so clear and concise. I don’t have DID but I always walk away from your videos understanding something about myself better. Thank you for that!
Hi folx! ♡ ooh boi we've got a persecutor who'd (on the surface level) harm the body a lot but after letting ourselves figure out what was going on and what was the reason behind it we got one of the alters find out if there's a pattern behind his actions since we couldn't reach out to him yet and later on we found out that he impulsively did it every time he felt like we were about to let someone abuse us and forbid us from being free to say it directly and him making the body hurt itself was actually his scream-cry for action and was meant to stop us from agreeing to the ongoing abuse and since he couldn't fully front and was half stuck in the head space, after many years he just began to force the body to attack itself in order to force us to stop and rethink. Recently we've become able to talk to one another and tho he might seem like an asshole to people from outside our system he is actually a good protector and can easily tell if a person is trying to manipulate us very early on into the conversation plus has a quite good taste in music in my opinion xD anyways, love love love your video! It's always good to see you folks ♡ -Jack
Hi Jamie. Thank you for taking time to talk to us about this. You all have taught me so much about D.I.D. I like Ed. 😊 He makes me smile, especially in the video when he was talking about you (Jamie). He got a bit flustered. I thought that was just so courageous being able to talk about it. Big shout out to him for that. Jess, I admire you lovely. Lots of love to you all. X
The thumbnail made me smile and this video really informed me. I feel like I understand systems better now. A very informative and it’s wonderful to see how far Ed has come. 😊
Thanks for the information Jami. I have an alter named Makoto who I had labelled as a bad alter when my therapist mentioned that she was an evil satanic alter due to her tendency to self harm and kind of self destruct and sabatoge our life. Im glad to learn something new and to give me a different way to look at Makoto and how to make changes towards her.
As we are speaking on this topic, with treating others with kindness, respect and understanding; I am thankful for you Jaime. You could have possibly opened the minds of others to understand that of even “singletons” who are hurt deep deep inside and because Ed is a real person in Jess there are “singletons” with this same issue that are entirely misunderstood and just seen as yucky awful people. This is mind opening for so many more than you can fathom. I see so many wonderful things coming from your DID community, you guys! You have all gone through so much and are selflessly reaching out and teaching others in love to beat the stigma that surrounds DID. I’m so happy for you all and how far you have come. Happiest congratulations to you all on your beautiful growing family 💕
Jamie your awesome. How you explain things is in a way where we can completely understand. I really enjoy all your videos with yourself, Ed, Jake, Ollie, Jess & Gav in it. I think you are all inspirational xx
Another quote from Wreck It Ralph "I'm Bad and that's good, I will Never be good and that's not bad, there's no one i'd rather be than me."
“Persecuters are a kind of misguided protector.” That is such a beautiful way of looking at it
Kind of off topic but like I’m proud of Ed for working so hard and coming so far.
sea puppers same
Exactly my thoughts... Ed Pride ❤
Yes! Ed is a hurting and it transforms in to anger. I love how raw he is and how good Jamie is for him. And of course Ollie and how he also is helping heal him. It’s amazing to see that even alters hurt and have trauma. He has come so far.
sea puppers i agree
I had a persecutor alter who tried to kill me. But it was actually a misguided attempt to "fix" the system's problems. He saw I was hurt very very much and decided "helping commit suicide" was the best solution. We survived and over time this alter went through a transformation and is now one of two of our system's Guardians (aka protectors). Phantom handles our anger and in the beginning that was RAGE, lots and lots of rage. As it transformed, so did he.
Thank you for sharing such a personal story 💛 I think that’s such a good example to use to explain the internalised trauma response persecutors have. Really happy you guys have overcome and are doing better 🙌🏻
Mine did the same thing
how did you make contact with them after he had tried to hurt you? our brain has shut off ours in a corner and we can’t access him. good for coping, not so great for healing sometimes... - a fellow system
Wow thank you so much for sharing. Because I (the front) feel so alone. I am trying to come to terms with having DID. I have an aspect that is trying to kill me. It's like you described. My counsellor doesn't think it's an aspect though, that's a manifestation of trauma. But my other aspects do not resonate with that perspective, and do not react to it's presence that way. I'm having a really really difficult time. Does anyone here (I know this was posted years ago, but it's worth a shot) have any advice on handing an aspect filled with pure rage, that feels suicide is the only option for me (I'm the front) and the rest of my system? Thanks so much if anyone replies. Seriously, thank you.
@@dear-pixel-heart hi...I'm not a multiple, but your story scared me so the only thing I can offer is if you can talk to your therapist/Dr about it? Or maybe a hospitalization might protect you for now? I'm sorry I can't offer more, but please take care ♥
"No Alter is Bad." Reading/hearing that one line made me burst into tears. I was close to a couple of the persecutor/"bad" alters in my friends system before they intergrated, but one in particular, I was his only friend. He literally embodied the labels everyone gave him - ie, that he was aggressive, nasty, and dangerous - to everyone around him - both inside and outside the system. Everyone was terrified of him. Even in the tiny scrawny body, he could take down guys twice the bodies size in a fight, and they'd be scared of him. Because that was the only way he knew to keep the body safe.
It broke my heart talking to others, who would either call him that sort of thing to me, or when other alters told me some of the abhorrent stuff he had done inside. I felt like I was the only person who ever gave him the chance to just be kind and safe. He was always so soft and gentle with me, caring and considerate, no one else would believe the things I'd say about him. Everyone was so caught up in the idea that he was Bad and never going to change. I honestly don't think he ever would of if I hadn't stuck by him as a genuiene friend through all of that. Me accepting him for what I knew he could be, rather than the role he was forcing himself to play helped him so so much, and it was incredible seeing the person he eventually blossomed into before intergrating.
And it's 100% true - Bad alters are not evil, they're just hurting. And they don't know how to handle it healthily.
Your comment brought tears to my eyes :'). I am a system of 60+ and my 3rd split at the age of 6 was a British demon named Dominik who is a persecutor. He would absolutely destroy the body in different ways. He hates me but he hated me to a terrifying extent back then and for many years thereafter. No one understood him or wanted to. I tried but he would just yell and scream at me, horrible things id rather not repeat. When my girlfriend and I officially moved in together she found out about him and he hated her to the point of wanting her dead. He never physically or emotionally hurt her but verbally it would get ugly. They had many fights and he'd take it out on the body. I warned my girlfriend that there was a massive chance he would never come around because he was not open to it at all and he hates everyone. But she just kept going with him. She showed him kindness, true friendship, understanding, love and a new view of the world. It has been almost 3 years since then, the body has not been harmed or abused ( at least, not badly or to the point of near death), and Dom and my girlfriend have been a couple now for going on a year and a half... The changes that came from him because of her... I cant explain it. Yes he still loaths the thought of my existence but he is no longer lashing out or severely harming or mauling the body. Your story and all the absolutely amazing and above and beyond treatment you blessed that alter with reminds me so much of my amazing girlfriend. You guys are what D.I.D systems need in their lives. Youre one of a kind and so very, very hard to find. You changed that alters life just as my girlfriend changed Dom's. I just wanted to say thank you, truly and deeply, thank you. I wish nothing but the best for you throughtout your life journeys and hope you'll get to help another alter one day as you did for the previous one. Youre changing lives that most people believe dont matter. Never lose your light, you'll be burning long after everyone else has died out. Your guidance, acceptance, love, respect and heart will save more lives. Thank you for the gift of you :').
Sincerely,
Alex and the system
@@TheDemon3666 What you wrote moved ME. I don't have DID, but I'm so happy for your overall progress as a system and for Dominik's individual progress. I'm also sorry you had to face the confusion you would have had about having alters at such a devastatingly young age. You're very strong to have coped with that. ❤
@@TheDemon3666 This brought me to tears for a good few minutes omg (im very weepy rn apparently lol). I don't know that I can really put my thoughts on this down well, I'm just struggling to find words that explain it and how i feel, but here goes!
I'm sorry you all had to go through those hard times, but I am so, so happy he has someone he can open up to. I really hope he (and of course, all of you too) can continue to heal, and hopefully work together, even if it never developes into anything more friendly.
Its so wonderful to me, too, to know that there are others out there who are willing to put in the hardwork to help those struggling alters. And your/their story is really one that, to my mind at least, is extremely beautiful. I really really hope that all others who are hurting like that can find someone willing to put the effort in.
As for the last section, I don't really know that I deserve that praise, but god, it really means the world to me, and I really needed to here that. Sometimes it feels that I'm not especially great at helping - especially when it comes to my own system - and I've been real down recently. The fact I can feel how heartfelt you meant that radiating through this post means more than I can possibly put into words, but it's really made me want to continue to try and help where I can, and to continue to work on bettering myself fully. I think I've run out of words for now, cus writing this made me cry again, but really, and truly, thank you
@@PrincessTokyoMoon sweetheart, you are worth all the praise that is to be had and SO much more. I'm sorry I made you cry, I'm a very intense person but I'm also brutally honest and say what i feel when I know it will be truly heard and felt. Thank you, so, so much for your kind words and amazingly enough, Dom even said thanks X') even he knows a blessing when he sees one. You make all the difference and have so much meaning to your life. You have a system and you STILL shine that bright and carry so much positivity and love for those you know are hurting. Please don't ever think little of yourself. I cant express enough or find the right words to explain how important you and your system are. Everything will be ok, in time all good things come to pass and everything happens for a reason. YOU happened for a reason. Never forget that.
@@Sara-ur8fv thank you so much for your kind words, it means more than you know :) having it at such a young age ( my first split was at the age of 3) wasnt all bad, he may be a persecutors but the things he did knocked sense into me and he saved my life more than once and I can never thank him enough. I wish you nothing but the best and thank you for endless miles for having an open and accepting mind and a kind and loving heart. Many thanks and hellos from our system to you.
-Alex
I had a persecutor who tried to suicide bait me, under the belief that if I were to die, they would be able to take over as the host. I used to speak to this alter in hatred until it was suggested that I should treat them kindly and thank them for trying to help in the way that they thought would work, but offering a better way to move forward. Over time and recovery this alter became very very close to me, they actually became one of my most compassionate alters once they learned how the world worked, and we eventually integrated.
I also had another persecutor who split off of the first, who showed me terrible things and harmed my body in order to keep me afraid and vigilant and aware that the world was a "horrible place." This recovery was harder because he didn't have a childlike mindset as the first did, but the recovery still happened. Or, I guess, is still happening.
How do you guys speak To each other? You Just talk To any of them as you are in the same room all the time? They all feel and experience the same thing? Like, am I talking To one or all of you at the same time?
Im sorry, im Just truly curious about this. I Love the videos and i Love To learn more about it :)
Well I'm kinda integrated now, or, well, working on it, so I'm not quite a system now. But when I first discovered my alters, we could only communicate through leaving notes. Then as we began to accept that each other existed, we gradually became more able to be conscious at the same time and talk to each other that way. They weren't always all awake at the same time, that would get really confusing. Alters usually switch out and take turns controlling the body. The more videos you watch on the subject the more you'll understand :) it's a complicated disorder and it's a lot to explain so it's probably too much for one comment.
This reminds us of our Alistair, who used to refuse to even go by a name, and would always try and convince Alex, one of our other alters who used to self-harm, that he wanted to take the next step to suicide. Luckily the rest of us were able to intervene, and we're past that and all functioning better as a system now.
~Silas
Talyta Issa
Our communication process has been evolving for many many years and with some assistance for three years. (YOB 1968) I really like what one of my assists did as he met with us for several weeks. It started with a giant diagram of a bus as though you were looking at the seating layout with the roof removed. The support person came up with the idea. He told me on the first day, “there’s as many seats on this bus as need be” AND “nobody gets thrown off the bus, nobody gets tossed under the wheels”.
It was a very interesting process seeing how certain parts didn’t want to sit anywhere near another part on the bus. Looking at what colors they chose to write with. Seeing how much they wanted to say or how little they had to say.
Eventually it became clear that some facets have no power of speech whatsoever. The crushing pain in the center of my spine is one of them. There are several varieties that are without verbal or written communication. Some can rely on an interpreter translating emotions into words that they either agree with or disagree with.
It’s very complex in our system.
Still don’t have a headcount.
Still don’t have consistent functionality for “real life”.
I guess it’s a lifelong work in progress.
Thank you for your curiosity. Your questions help me express myself in words.
@@NeonGreyscale I know it's been a long time since you have replied here, but can I ask you few questions if you find comfortable to ans? You said you are kinda integrated now, can I ask you how you did that I mean what was the process? And how many alters you had then and how many are left now? And can there be only two alters in a body like one host and one more alter?(but both don't remember which one was the original one, I mean don't know which one is the host) or is it necessary to have more than two alters for a person to have DID and how frequent is it? And how do you know if you really have did or other disorder where you hear voice in your head like schizophrenia?
Sorry if it's a lots of questions but can you answer them if you feel comfortable?
I feel like Ed would low-key love this thumbnail, lol
I find it scary how well our subs are beginning to know us haha 😆
This was so fantastically presented. Jamie is very articulate. -Kit
I absolutely adore your channel. Sending love to the Entropy System! ❤️
Yes! All of our persecutors have been misguided protectors. Some of our strongest protectors and even one of our main hosts started as "persecutors".
Wow, very well said! It just shows that even if an individual has or is struggling, they have the potential to rise up once again and become their very best self!
Hello there.
I myself used to be a persecutor. The relationship with our system host used to be really bad. As a trauma holder, I took out my anger and my frustration on Avery, our host. I eventually began hurting the body. Not to hurt Avery, not to hurt anybody else but me.
I thank you for this video. It helped educate our system lots about me, and that I wasn’t “bad” but just in pain. But after seeing videos like these, Lily, our system caretaker, reached out to me. I now have a protector role in our system.
-Raven
i feel like i might have alters
i made up few personas for me a month before i know what DID/OSDD was, and i kinda got claims of who i was feeling like... i made up the personas cause my sensitivity levels, trigger levels, feelings and opinions would just change randomly & i didnt fit in one style one of the personas i named Daki,,
when im her i feel pathetic miserable worthless and wanna k*ll myself, i even scratch myself.. i/daki likes hurting others, hurting herself, has trust issues and gets triggered easily...
is there a chance they are real alters?
i have no idea what to do with daki me :(
I came across your channel about a year ago now because I was wanting to write a story about a detective with DID, where one of the alters was the killer in the case he was assigned to. When I found your videos, I realized how little I actually knew about DID and how immensely media has skewed the reality of this condition and how dangerous that can be. Suffice to say, I've decided to leave that story unwritten. I can't thank you enough for making videos like this to teach the truth about DID and bring uninformed people like myself to a better understanding 💕
It would probably be interesting if the host alter became convinced that the persecuter was the killer but learned that he was actually trying to aid in the investigation and through therapy was able to help integrate him into the system. Obviously you’d have to have the help of someone who actually experiences DID and an expert to make sure the story was told accurately and respectfully but it would be an interesting story that could raise awareness about a severely misunderstood condition.
There are plenty of intresting plots to be made out of DID without any one of them being a killer. The reality of the alters is much more intriguing.
i'm so grateful you did your due diligence and realized you knew less than you should for the project you wanted to work on. thank you for keeping those of us who struggle with this disorder in mind.
-Sam
(Sylvar System)
AGREE.
James McAvoy says he studied DID by watching videos made by people with DID. And yet he still decided to make that horrible movie.
Obviously he really didn’t learn anything and doesn’t care about people with DID other than to exploit them.
I lost so much of my huge respect for him. He used his information to create a more convincing portrayal without any consideration for the damage he was doing.
In the famous words of like every single professor ever: "correlation is not causation." Even if having D.I.D and 'bad alters' was found with people who did bad things doesnt mean that D.I.D. is the cause. And it's important people know this. I'm so glad this channel exists for the reason 💗💗
Since people who suffered from abuse can sometimes reproduce the abuse that they lived through, people with DID may be affected by this mechanism too. But they aren't more dangerous than other people.
This video was so emotional and relatable. I used to be a persecutor alter and actually have a lot in common with Ed. The hardest part of recovery for me was losing my sense of self. I felt like if I changed and ditched all of these bad habits that I would no longer be me. I thought that the horrible things I did defined me and that without them I wouldn't be a person anymore. Obviously this isn't true. As I started to recover I started to find out who I really was and disassociated myself from all of those bad habits.
I'm still me just without all the bad stuff.
Thank you so much for all of your amazing videos. They mean a lot to a lot of people.
-Dean
Our persecutor is such a sweetheart at heart, just riddled with anger and pain. We love him, and hope that he’ll learn to see himself like we do him :) Thanks for making this video! It’s so good to see good and positive stuff on persecutor parts! Much love from the Beloved System!
I recently got diagnosed with DID and ever since then my alters have become more...self aware of who they are and what their roles are. My (or our) persecutor is very angry and scared and sometimes those emotions overwhelm the both of us, which causes her to act out in very scary ways. I've been trying to "lock" her away, but after seeing this, I wanna try a new approach. She's never experienced genuine kindness and after watching Jamie talk about Ed and their approach, I'm ready to show her that kindness.
This really hit home with one of our persecutors. Petal used to have a really bad problem with her weight, which comes from her being a teenage girl who cares what others think. She would get so mad at us for eating, and would try to limit everything we eat, getting mad if we let the littles have ice cream or anything along those lines. Petal eventually worked through this, but it was a hard time for all of us, and we are just great full to have it be behind us.
~Silas
Jamie has big Dad energy ✨
Never commented before but just had to say that this was fascinating insight. Even those of us without DID could implement the idea of giving patience and care to ourselves
Fritz Bo Possibly shows insight how people can better understand other people generally. The personalities happen to be in the same body, but others who have one still have a personality and the system for them is the world itself with all these people in it. Multiple personalities is only as dangerous as all people with at least one. D.I.D doesn't change it that much. It's just more like a brain becomes like a shared apartment building or ship.
People with one personality can have the same influences or mindsets. What they protect is whatever they value or choose.
I hope D.I.D can show more people about personality itself. It's so very rooted in our overall functionality it seems mad in itself that we can understand so little about it.
Maybe all the stereotypes of "good" and "bad" did some damage. Now we have a mess to clean up.
I think what some people aren't considering/realizing is this: I, as someone who does not have DID but an integrated psyche, have a persecutor as well. All I have to do is go upstairs into the bathroom and look in the mirror to see him.
We all persecute ourselves at times, everyone has the potential to be self-destructive, integrated or not.
Thank you for this, Jamie; I appreciate your eloquence very much.
could you make a video showing Ed's art? like an online art gallery, i've been curious about what his art is like since you've talked about it in a couple of videos
Oooh I'd love to buy some of Eds art. I have bare walls and need to decorate!
Ruben Caballero oh my if he'd be comfortable to show it then yes please! That'd be wonderful! ♡ Unless it'd be too stressful or anything like that then please let him know not to worry about it ♡♡ -Nez
So when my boyfriend first told me about his alter he said oh Ben is a bad guy he’s aggressive and threatening and has broken someone’s arm because he knew it would hurt me and I had to explain to him that Ben is a persecutor he’s not a bad alter I’ve met Ben and he’s such a loving caring guy and has such a big heart he was hurting because of what my boyfriend had done to him and the way he treated him it was because of the stuff I’ve learned from you guys and what you’ve shared that I was able to help them get along and try to understand each other little did they know how much they can be alike but that’s also probably part of the reason they didn’t like each other in the beginning because they’re both stubborn and argumentative and when you put two of those people in one body and they disagree it can get messy but now they work really well together those alters that people consider bad just need to be worked with have someone say they’re on their side and want things to get better for everyone
I think this was SUCH an important video. Helping explain that essential alter or not turn to anything to find a release from "the bad" is what one is searching for a lot of the time. Thank you for everything you guys do.
We loved this video so much.
I am the main protector and was split to protect the body from our persecutor, so I totally get what you're saying.
I found Alexia (persecutor) was actually pretty good at managing confrontation. It's ironic because she is actually full of emotions but, when needed, she can brush them off because of her emotional detachments.
She's not a villain. More like an anti-hero.
-Antef
I've never clicked so bloody fast on a notification before! Needed this video so much, thank you for making it! (I've been struggling with this myself as I'm in the eariler stage of healing and accepting my protector/ persecutor)
Thanks for doing this Jamie. As you probably already know from all the comments, I think this was right on. 👍🏼. Alters CAN be scary but befriending them changes EVERYTHING. And, as you also pointed out, giving them different experiences helps them to understand and love the outside world. Once it isn’t so scary, they and everyone else in the system can relax. Thanks again Jamie for this excellent video.
Majority of people have gray areas. No one person is all good and all bad. Alters are the same, because they are people too. I’m very similar to Ed, in that I hold trauma from my childhood and teen years, I pushed people away, and can let go of relationships easily, and used to party a lot... I’ve done a lot of work to become a stronger, healthier both mental and physical, and although I have my bad days, overall, I’m much better. And I’m only one person. Alters are people too. I am so happy for Ed for making the progress and healing for himself and your system. ♥️
Jamie giggling at himself for using the word "altered"
Thank you. This means a lot. I am a persecutor. I used to leave threatening messages to the host. I would harm the body and scare other friends. I am now trying to flip a page on this. I hold lots of trauma, and i felt like it was my job to show them how bad people are. I was aggressive, reckless, and always adrenaline filled. I hold trauma of the family caused by them. I still find myself enraged by them, still struggling, but i am trying to change. I was placed under lockdown for two straight years. Couldnt come out... this was lonely and painful. I turned to exercise to release my pain. I am, 5 days into my newfound freedom, and i want to make the most of it. I don't know how or why i was given a chance, i plan to use it. We are not all bad or all evil, misunderstood is the word. I opened up to the family, just let them know how this impacted me, the consequences were not good, but I am trying to figure it out. Thank you... -Ambyx
thanks for the info jamie really like how you simplified what and how to work with the "bad" alters and how to help them :D
this was extremely helpful in putting into perspective how Roy (the main persecutor in our system) thinks :) thank you !
No problem all =] sending Roy some good vibes 👍🏻
We have a few maladjusted alters. None of them are bad, and we are hugely advocates for "persecutors" because within and without people treat them like they are a disease to be purged, but they are in fact, just in pain, or feel like they need to do something to protect the system. We don't call them persecutors, we instead say they are maladaptive or we say "they have things they are always getting better with, but have a long road to travel. so be nice to them"
Thank you for sharing, it's people like you and others who have developed the courage to be open and help change the stigma. I don't have DID but I have a passion for mental health and well-being and I see the beauty in others looking at people's journeys and seeing they can change and work to get to places of stability, co existence, live. Every video opens my eyes, and helps me become less ignorant or blind x
Thank you so much for this insight Jamie, the person I love has a persecutor that I very much struggle to get on with and make sense of a lot of the time, I think what was talked about in this video will help me moving forward!
Our system contains both a persecutor and a perpetrator. They're both learning to be part of the system but it takes time. Like you said, Jaime, treat all parts with patience and kindness.
Thanks for uploading this
I haven't even clicked on it yet and was only watching the preview thingy without the sound and immediately known I was watching Jamie XD. The personalities are so distinct in behaviour that you can tell who is fronting if you've studied each alters characteristics, behaviours, and mannerisms.
I really enjoyed watching this video again after watching Jess talk at uni. Jamie, It was nice to hear you talk and give your perspective on this.
Thank you darling =] much appreciated
Every video you post renews my hope that my system will function one day
I showed this to my husband’s system when they had a persecutor wake up that we were worried about. They showed it to the persecutor and he calmed down a lot. It really made him think and slow down. It’s only been a few days but I can see he is trying to be better. Thank you for this. 💜
This is good advice in general not just for persons with DID. Loving all parts of yourself is so important and being patient and kind is so important. This was just the advice I needed.
Now this is where I was searching for the last year. I myself have a very destructive alter and it’s the only one I have a sorta stable connection with, I’m a bit scared of them because they are like you said big bark no bite. Thank you for sharing even though I’m late.
I don’t have DID, but I do have a “part” of me that is separate to “me”. I’ve often felt like I have two brains. That other part of me is traumatised and wants to push people away so that they can’t hurt me, is so scared of trusting people and can lash out, much like Ed. I’m working with my therapist on it, but finding this video helped me feel less alone, even though I don’t have DID. Thanks Jamie, and Jess, I’m so happy that you’re healing.
Dear Jamie, dear Multiplicity & Me,
thank you for making this Video. I can only underline what you Said about persecutors. In our system, Elisabeth is the strongest persecutor. She used to be a collection of all the harmful Things that have ever been said to me and she forced Dylan, another alter of mine, to the back, everytime he was triggered to come out. Only when she talked to a friend, she noticed that she had fallen for the very words that created her and she broke down. Nowadays, she is much calmer and decided to guide me instead of insulting and belittling me. She is not yet at the point to let go of her fears and concerns, but she developed to the part that kept me alive when I was having panic attacks or suicidal tendencies. She is a diva, but also a motherly figure in my system and even though there still remains a little bit of fear, I am thankful for having her. Without her, I wouldn't have made it.
I have one main persecutor (Scarlett) who self harms a lot and is very angry and two that walk the line of persecutor and protector (they devalue/idolise me I also have BPD so that is probably subconsciously drawn from it) Bella and Luca, but they mostly only hurt others who are hurting me. To protect and save us, like one of my bad teen traumas happened and when I was a victim of a hate crime. I try to justify they anger and say it's okay to be mad but not justify the behaviour. I feel scared of mine because I feel if I was really pushed to the max what could I actually be capable. I'm capable of violence and have invasive thoughts of harming others but I am not truly capable of murder, so they can't be either I hope! Thanks for sharing this, I broke down completely watching this because I have spent so long calling them mean and bad and admonishing them, and it's no surprise they won't work with me a lot of times. I love all of my alters, I just get scared and I'm ashamed of the wounds and scars, and of pushing people away. My alters mostly pretend to be me around my friends unless they are triggered out. I will be discharged from therapy and MHS end of next month so I don't know what I will do to continue my recovery after that.
I can really relate to this, we are a poly fragmented system and we've had many persecutors start to heal and change for the better. Many of them still struggle, but it's getting better. We do have some we worry about because we know they were made to hurt others outside our body when we were young and they have made threats of doing so again to my child. So, we are afraid they will hurt the child I have out here, so for now we keep them inside. I hope someday we can reach them and help them, for now though I have to ensure the safety of my daughter by keeping them away from her. I don't think as a whole we could hurt a kid, but I also know reenacting trauma with others is a coping mechanism that exists and I have to protect my daughter from that pain, especially because I as an alter have dealt with messed up wiring from the abuse and have had to work hard to correct that. For example, I have struggled with behaviors in my past that could be harmful to a child, so I don't want to risk anything bad happening.
My absolute bestest friend in our system used to fight me on everything, and would constantly bully and hurl insults at me. But we talked, I kept pushing to be kind and now? She’s our fiercest protector and a truly amazing friend.
Thanks for the segment Jamie! I learned a lot from this video ❤️ I’m a trauma survivor, and though I don’t have DID, I found the sentiments in the video so helpful for me and my own self destructive tendencies. My brain has learned some not so great protection tactics over the years, but I’m working on learning better, less harmful ways of protecting myself. Thank you 😊❤️
So, in many ways, the "persecutors" are the same as those who are abused as children and follow through to become the abusers as adults in later life. It's a matter of breaking the cycle so that they can become who they may be without causing either internal or external trauma. If I would ever get to meet all you alters, I would give you all a hug because I so easily identify with not so much DID, but with my own experience as an empath.
Thank you😊 I feel like I’ve learned so much from all of your videos, you have inspired me to go into psychology! Love you all, keep educating people💞
Such a daddy bear vibe from jamie the aura around jamoe os so bright and warm
Our persecutor--Null--is very harsh. He endured our most traumatic years and we only just recently learned of his presence because he became known via being spoken of by another alter, Traumerei. This video + DissociaDID's persecutor videos have helped so incredibly much. I never thought of Null as 'bad' per se, but his violence due to fear and anger is very intense and thus it's hard for me to help him when I become fearful (which provokes him unintentionally--you're scared of my anger, thus I am "bad" and like our abusers).
I believe this can help me calm myself and work with my system to help Null on his own road to recovery. It's hard and only just beginning, but I believe in us. And you guys have helped so much!
And also, very belated, but I am still incredibly proud of Ed. Of all of you. Take care. - Crow (they/he), Arcturus System
We have a persecutor named Bucky who is much more recently discovered so he isn't anywhere near as recovered as your Ed is, but he's in a lot of pain and we're trying to reach out to him and help him and rehabilitate him as much as I can. And I do agree with you, Jamie -- in my experience, persecutors are just protectors who don't have access to healthy coping skills.
EXTREMELY helpful, thank you Jamie! The way you put it, that an alter wouldn't do something the whole collective isn't capable of doing, has actually cleared up things for me, too! Thank you so much for running this informative channel!
I love this channel's mental health talk. Even though I don't have DID, the explanations are easily understood and applicable to anyone. I'm relatively new sub binging these vids, you guys help a lot with my anxiety!
I’ve started to meditate 2 weeks ago... after years of misdiagnosed bipolar and taking meds to no prevail. One of my protectors came forward 3 days in. He wanted to tell me he’s not the one doing all the terrible things but he held all the pain and guilt that “someone else” caused. I guess he isn’t a bad person. I’ve only just started my healing and I have so far to go but it’s nice to get a bit of an idea why I do silly things sometimes. And that there is some form of unity inside me. Thanks for sharing.
I have watched every video your system has made, and by far, this is one of the most educational one I have seen! I have always felt the persecuter alter always gets a bad wrap and it makes me cringe when the term 'bad alter" is used. They are the ultimate protector and I'm glad your system helped Ed to find alternate ways to express his pain/issues.
Thanks Jamie. I’m still wrestling with persecutor habits. It just feels familiar to be in crisis mode and lashing out, or turning inwards to heighten the pain there. At least I know now that that isn’t normal, and I have the occasional day when I can relax before I panic again about why I don’t feel bad right now. My head mates are being super supportive though, couldn’t ask for more from them. -Al
This one is so hard for me, right now. I have two persecutors in my system, I think (I'm only two weeks into my diagnosis and still reeling). One was the only part I knew about in high school. The other came through and screamed in my journal about how furious they are we've uncovered this and how they absolutely under no circumstances want any form of communication with us. it was shocking and painful. I know they are hurting, that much is clear. and I think part of them is ashamed at how they've treated our body for so many years. but their anger right now is something I can't deal with, so I'm giving them what they want and leaving them alone. For now.
Why did I start crying? I'm so so so proud of Ed. (I don't know what has happened personally and I don't know more that what has already been said) but I feel like a proud little sister, I guess. I'm so glad I found this channel ❤️❤️
That wall behind you is absolutely gorgeous. Those metallic looking geometric shapes take on a beautiful iridescent hue that I guess I’ve never noticed before?? But it’s dope. Great content as well!! Much love xx
It's so wonderful seeing a troubled alter slowly heal. I'm so happy for Ed. Thank you for this video, it made me tear up a bit. I look back to what our persecutor has done and what we needed to do to help him slowly understand that he's not the monster everybody thought he was.
A persecutor in a good situation is a protector in a bad one!
Hi, my name is drew, I'm a persecutor alter, and this was really helpful to me, because I feel like everyone around me and in our system hates me because I'm bad. And I want to try make it better, but I don't know how, I didn't realize how much harm I was and am doing and I don't know how to stop it all.
Learning to work with your persecutors in your system is one of the most difficult and the most rewarding things someone with DID can do. I completely agree do it with a therapist. Labeling an alter as bad brings more problems than it solves.
I hide most of my alters the funny thing people ask wtf is wrong with you why don't you remember.
Same. None of our friend know but i think they suspect i have serious memory issues haha yer i dont remember but it wasnt me thats y lmao
Yeah, none of our friends know either. They just think I don't pay attention to what they are saying. It makes me kind of sad, knowing they think I don't care.
~Silas
We are the same way. I protect us and am out most of the time, I rather deal with the shit and keep us safe. But I know they don't like how rude I am, I don't think I'm rude and I don't know how to change it. Neither do they. Sigh.
(keeping up the system replies here lol)
i only told my closest friends who i would do anything for lel
-evie
Thank you so much for making this video. I finally understand it better! And i feel like crying over how far Ed has gone. I’m amazed and very proud.
Watching this channel always makes me feel so proud in general for EVERYONE who is struggling... But this video especially made me feel very proud of Ed (and Jess) for having come such a long way in their recovery.
Have been gotten lost watching your videos the past 2 days. I have always had a fascination with DID, marveling at how the brain works. I just checked your IG as I was curious if you had posted anything recently, since there hadn't been any new videos, and I am SO happy for you, I literally teared up reading your post. Best wishes to you and your family.
I was just scrolling through the comments, and I was surprised when I saw our profile in the comments, and then I realized Silas already watched this video! It's scary how similarly we can think at times!
~Tom
Yes, so helpful! I'm in the process of reaching out to my "bad" part; and he and I are brainstorming ways he can let the anger out. I only thought to try and reach out to him after Jess shared that line about no one being a bad alter, and so seeing this video now is perfect timing for reinforcing the way I approach our relationship. One day, I hope to not be afraid of him at all and that he'll feel like he can express himself in a constructive and healthy way, because he definitely has a lot going on in there from what little I can see.
I cried when you were explaining Ed's struggles. I am so happy for the progress he's made! Also I don't even have DID and I think I just learned a little bit about myself! Thank you
I love this! Just all of this, the activities Ed shifted his focus into. I think it’s beautiful 🧡
Really wonderfully put Jamie! I studied psychology at uni and have always been interested in anything to do with behaviour and more unknown disorders like DID. Your whole family are so beautiful! I love hearing about how you help each other and the way you explain what Ed was going through and how he healed and was helped by people was so articulately put! I admit that I've always been fascinated by the darker side of the human psyche and I did enjoy the movie "Split" and was impressed by McAvoy's acting but was never under the impression that it was common for anyone with DID to be that way. I've even done my best to educated other people I've spoken to about the film who have sensationalised and vilainised people with DID. You guys are doing great work with this channel and I hope you'll keep educating and reducing the stigma that surrounds DID. If any of you read this, please say hi to everyone for me and give Jake a big hug from me! (His accent has been helping me relax since I found your channel)
It continually amazes me how intelligent and compasionate you all are. I don't have DID, but as a person with severe depression I find that your videos help me to stop being so hard on myself. They calm me too. The strange thing is I didn't really know anything about DID, then I saw the bad movie (split) and decided I wanted to know more. So I looked it up on UA-cam and Poof.. There you were! I have so enjoyed getting to know all of you, I've watched every video and can't wait for more. I can't imagine how hard it has been for you to learn all these things about yourself, but I am amazed and greatfull that you have because your also helping me. Sending all the love I can your way.
Honestly, this is just good advice for people, not just alters.
This is so incredibly insightful, and can even be helpful for people who struggle with any other mental disorders to better understand themselves. For example, I struggle with depression and anxiety, and for a period of time in my life struggled with suicidal thoughts. It wasn't until therapy that I came to understand that there was a part of me, a protective part, that thought I was unsafe so decided that suicidal thoughts/suicide were the only "options" I had to keep myself safe. So although I don't have DID, I relate to this so deeply. Thank you so much for sharing and educating!
JAMIE, u are such a rational, smart, articulate, good guy. I love u so much
I have been exploring multiplicity lately and this video was very helpful. I like what you said about labeling alters as "bad." If my disassociation really is the result of past trauma, then I'm not going to repeat it with my alters; I won't abandon them just because they are problematic or difficult to understand. I will give them all of the love and kindness I lost out on. Maybe by doing that, I... all of us... can heal.
This genuinely made me tear up a bit. This was such an important and well-made video.
I love the new alter introductory slides! Very helpful xx
our persecutor is pretty chilled out luckily, hes lashed out and harmed us a few times but we were all going through a bad time back then. currently we're working on getting him to hate us a little less and to communicate how he really feels :] -kaz
I'm so pleased that Ed is more at ease now. You're all doing great!
I love how you guys have put a clip of Ed being cute and making food in the corner but also all the explanations ♡♡ -Nez
ps. I sril can't get over the head piece that Ed had put on in that older video it's adorable while still kind of on the edgier side of things and honestly that's always a really really loud YES from me!
Really missed you, Jamie! So proud of how far the system has come on this topic ❤️ also, that hypothetical situation was so relatable to me. I had an eating disorder and it was so enlightening for me to learn that although it was a very harmful and misguiding coping mechanism, it was indeed an effective coping mechanism and in fact may have saved my life at some points. This realization allowed me to stop hating myself for having this disorder and instead give myself some grace. I was just doing what I needed to do at the time to continue living.
I have an alter who is homicidal. She really scares me and gives me intrusive thoughts about killing people and animals. I can’t help but think she is bad but I might try to look at her differently after this video. I don’t know what trauma she’s gone through but my therapist said that she might have felt powerless at one point in her life. Thanks for talking about this.
I find it so reassuring that this happens to other people too... The matter of dissociative disorders has finally been found out in my life I guess. I just straight up and down lied and said I was fine, even after a literal life-or-death experience. For years I wonder why the meds hardly worked, and it makes more sense now. I do see a psychiatrist and therapist but don't know where to start. I don't feel like going through symptoms cause you guys (comments section included) probably know most of them. They have told me small amounts of information but I'm overwhelmed. I also have bipolar 1 w/psychotic features, ocd, and ptsd.
I don't necessarily have names for the them when they come around, except for one, Andy. The other parts of me I have yet to become aware of... I feel as though myself, Jacob (and yes that is my name I'm not kidding lol) is trapped in a little tiny box when it happens and I cant figure out what goes on when it happens, just snap shots. For years I just thought it was my bipolar, and I'm sure some or a lot of it was, but during the most intense of swings (so I thought were swings but at some point I dont know if it matters) I really don't know or remember who or what I am/was, other than being somewhat aware that I'm not the peaceful person I usually am. Lately though, things like that happen more often and more intense, and for longer periods of time.
So I guess learning all this about myself; the stuff that I was just... raised not to talk about as a child, is weird, fascinating (I'm big on psychology/psychiatry), and most of all scary. Like today I found out I helped a friend move some furniture... I don't even know when, I guess recently, and no idea for how long I saw him etc. etc. and just found out last night. That scared me
If someone could guide me to the first step of recovery it would mean so, so much. If you actually read this far, thank you
I'm so proud of Ed, the other alters, Jess and Gaz. I loved Ed from the first time I saw him. I seem to relate to him a lot, but I stead of physic harm I had mental and emotional harm to myself. I goes that's why I always try to treat others kindly. We don't know what they are going through, or what they live with on a daily basis. I know for me personally when I was at a very low point in my life I had someone tell me I was a very beautiful person inside and out, and that was new for me. It made me feel good and to this day I compliment and make others laugh to make their days a little better even for a little while
People with mental health conditions are more likely to be harmed. I grew up believing I was evil because I had mental health issues. Thanks 90s TV.
Thank you Jamie. I have learned a lot from you and the other boys as well as Jess. We (my crew and I) are learning to work together but it is very hard for everyone to be on the same page sometimes. I am proud of your journey and hope our journey is as productive and healthy as yours.
Great Video, Jaimie! We love how you can hear your love of Ed in your voice when you talk about him. We are so happy that everyone is healing, but especially Ed. He seems to have came into his own, and it's been a privilege for us, especially me, to watch and learn from his journey, these past years. Give everyone our love! -Mila "The Symbiote System"
(Still working on our system name, so far, this is most of us' favorite)
Persecutors as a misguided protector? Woah. We have some thinking to do. Thank you so much, Jamie (and Ed, mate you're amazing, how you function through the noise astounds me). Woah. What a balm.
You are all amazing! How brave you are to make these videos to educate people about D.I.D. You have embraced this illness, which I can only emagine is incredibly challenging, and have turned it into something so possitive, educational, and inspiring! I'm sure all this footage documenting your case will allow yourself and researchers make ground breaking discoveries for D.I.D. You are a blessing 💜 You are so incredibly strong to be able to take hold of your trama and not only overcome and work through it, but to have turned it into something so positive.
I myself grew from a persecutor through to host and even I have to admit I was a horrible person, constantly lashing out at others at the slightest provocation and genuinely thought I was in the right because it either kept me safe or gave me the tiniest bit of power. It wasn't until others began to gradually come to help me understand why I didn't need to act like that did I realise how wrong I had been acting. I have become a fuller, better person simply by no longer feeling the mentality of "If they want to see a monster then I'll show them one." It wasn't by locking me away or by forcing me to suffer that made me a better person, it was simple love and compassion. -Vincent of the Triumvirate System
Jamie, I love your videos. You are so clear and concise. I don’t have DID but I always walk away from your videos understanding something about myself better. Thank you for that!
Hi folx! ♡ ooh boi we've got a persecutor who'd (on the surface level) harm the body a lot but after letting ourselves figure out what was going on and what was the reason behind it we got one of the alters find out if there's a pattern behind his actions since we couldn't reach out to him yet and later on we found out that he impulsively did it every time he felt like we were about to let someone abuse us and forbid us from being free to say it directly and him making the body hurt itself was actually his scream-cry for action and was meant to stop us from agreeing to the ongoing abuse and since he couldn't fully front and was half stuck in the head space, after many years he just began to force the body to attack itself in order to force us to stop and rethink. Recently we've become able to talk to one another and tho he might seem like an asshole to people from outside our system he is actually a good protector and can easily tell if a person is trying to manipulate us very early on into the conversation plus has a quite good taste in music in my opinion xD anyways, love love love your video! It's always good to see you folks ♡ -Jack
Hi Jamie. Thank you for taking time to talk to us about this. You all have taught me so much about D.I.D. I like Ed. 😊 He makes me smile, especially in the video when he was talking about you (Jamie). He got a bit flustered. I thought that was just so courageous being able to talk about it. Big shout out to him for that.
Jess, I admire you lovely. Lots of love to you all. X
The thumbnail made me smile and this video really informed me. I feel like I understand systems better now. A very informative and it’s wonderful to see how far Ed has come. 😊
Love you all I have learned soooo much
Thanks for the information Jami. I have an alter named Makoto who I had labelled as a bad alter when my therapist mentioned that she was an evil satanic alter due to her tendency to self harm and kind of self destruct and sabatoge our life. Im glad to learn something new and to give me a different way to look at Makoto and how to make changes towards her.
As we are speaking on this topic, with treating others with kindness, respect and understanding; I am thankful for you Jaime. You could have possibly opened the minds of others to understand that of even “singletons” who are hurt deep deep inside and because Ed is a real person in Jess there are “singletons” with this same issue that are entirely misunderstood and just seen as yucky awful people. This is mind opening for so many more than you can fathom. I see so many wonderful things coming from your DID community, you guys! You have all gone through so much and are selflessly reaching out and teaching others in love to beat the stigma that surrounds DID. I’m so happy for you all and how far you have come. Happiest congratulations to you all on your beautiful growing family 💕
Jamie your awesome. How you explain things is in a way where we can completely understand. I really enjoy all your videos with yourself, Ed, Jake, Ollie, Jess & Gav in it. I think you are all inspirational xx