They named their company after the first Billionaire and Jay became raps first Billionaire, while Suge Knight named his company Death Row Records then ended up in Prison. Shows you how much your mindset matters.
Sit down kid. The first american billionaires became that rich by shady monopolist rails and oil. Jay-z claims hé got rich by selling crack. But... he lying. Look at his first video appearences hé doesnt look hard. He look goofy and afraid and his whole style was happy 80 and then one Day hé was this gangster crack kingpin 😂😂😂
All this talk about Dame being a great businessman and hustler, but the guy went from having $50-$60 million when the ROC broke up, to being flat broke.
I told people dame had leverage because he had jay ..everyone wanted to do business with them because of jay ..jayz was the product once dame lost the product every one wanted , he lost his leverage ..irv gotti said it best the higher up’s love jay and they never tell him no because they want to in his presence and it’s beneficial because he does good business
Dame dash is smart but he says that whole i use my own money thing cuz he HAS to. Noones gonna invest their money w him cuz of his history n mouth n its obvious you cannot work together w someone like him
I’m not disagreeing with you at all dame is smart but alot of people said he was stealing money from the label to fuel other business ventures…from beans to bleek to jim Jones they’ve all said he stole at one point
Every video that I watch is about bashing Dame. Yes he has flaws but everyone is ignoring the good that he’s done and the financial backing that he’s given to your fave. I feel that you guys are riding the bandwagon. I grew up in that era I was at the rap seminar I have videos of what really happened and I feel that you’re rewriting history.
And that’s why he suck ass! Major corporations care about how you feel about them. That’s why they go out of their way to persuade you to like them and when their public dissent against them about a person or character like Uncle Ben, or Aunt Jemina they cut it out to maintain their bread.. when you don’t listen to except your own voice your destined to fail. Former CEO Travis Kalanick was the same way and it cost him Uber.
Jay wanted to keep Dame… Jay wanted to get rid of Biggs that’s the real… Jay felt like Biggs didn’t do much to acquire a 3rd or 33% … Dame ain’t want to leave Biggs out so he left … I don’t like how your trying to shit on Dame but some of your takes are solid. If Jay didn’t have Dame he wouldn’t have been as successful & if Dame didn’t have Jay same thing
I understand the feelings about Dame, I share a lot of em myself but I will say this, in the music business people will literally rob you while smiling and shaking your hand. Why is a honest asshole ostracized by smiling snakes who just want to rob you with no fuss?
that’s just the reality of business, politics and all. business is not just about crunching numbers it’s all encompassing including human relations. i hear you though thank you for watching!
I don't know if you ever been in his position and dealt with these sort of people, situation s and issues especially as it relates to Lyor Cohen and others closes to him who was the biggest problems in the game and behind the scenes. Dame of course done and said something wild things however and the facts remain that man is more creditable and real then most on UA-cam and moving today.
Wow bro, I'm impressed. This is the best breakdown of Dame Dash I've come across. Everything you said was on point, especially the last remark. Unfortunately, Dame, is still stuck in his ways. Hence why nobody wants to work with him. Even Irv Gotti recently spoke about falling out with Dame, because the way Dame does business is wrong.
@@jimmycharlotin7050 the difference between Jay & Dame is that Jay is more corporate than Dame is but trust me their both on the same level just two different paths. Whoever done this video is half right and half wrong.
@@LiveVisionManagementGroup so if that's the case isn't where Jay-Z os at because burned alot of bridges with people you have at the number artist on the game but his ego got the best of him plus he and Jay are opposite
@@LiveVisionManagementGroup naw they aren't, their personalities play a HUGE PART in where they are in life. People like Jay because he is respectful, no BS but kind whereas Dame is aggressive, rude and disrespectful in business. Have you ever heard the saying YOU CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN SHIT?
@@jimmycharlotin7050 yes I will agree that Dame got in his own way but what is success??? His train of thought success is just to be able and make million dollar deals and feed his family on his on terms. Jay is a different kinda beast I love Jay I’m a day one fan but Jay was more make it the fast way and that’s to rub elbows for different opportunities but his success doesn’t feed Dame at all. Dame and Jay and Biggs all got the same hustle but Jay had way more to offer and Jay used that to gain power and now everybody is working for him.
Dude say dame isn't a good businessman but Biggs tells you himself that from the rip Dame came to him with the ending in mind from day 1. hat whole thing was Dame's idea. Only thing they missed was the amusement park.
there would be no jay without dame. jay was the mascot for roc a fella and dame was the mastermind behind the business. rocawear, movies, liquor, etc was all dames idea he just needed jay to distribute it
This was a great piece. I just wish as Black people we acknowledge our short comings, and grow from it. And not have too much pride, that prevents us being honest to our selves. Hopefully one day, all parties involved can come back together as family!
This story is not 100% true Damon dash went to private school and not only that he had family so it's not like he was alone after his mother died cut it out man 😏
@@djunique4106 Jay-Z was evolving it seems like dame was living for the moment while hov was seeing if you listen to Jay-Z raps he shows ambition their polar opposite
@@djunique4106 Dame is still broke can't pay child support just took another L in court gotta pay back 800,000 to the movie he stole yall dame d!ck riders / fan boys just hate reality
Jay Came Up Cuz Dame Believed in Him & Invested in Him. Then Jay Blew Up. Jay Teamed Up with Def Jam. Jay Partnered Up with NFL. What Does Jay Actually Start Up or Own Solo by Himself…Dame a Real Hustler, He Could Lose it & Get it Back.. We All Have Our Ups & Downs, It’s Not Alll Juz Dame’s Fault. Get Off the Gas..
I’m just saying that he’s a bad businessman. Jay is successful because of Jay, help along the way? Of course. But Jay has showed us that he’s able to conduct business at the highest levels on multiple occasions. We only know of Dame’s 1 successful venture but he hasn’t been able to replicate it since.
Your not correct dame was the brain and architect of Rockafella as a brand, business , houshold name creating the best writers, producers , talents, managers, executives in the game.
Dame Dash is the one who managed and place Jay Z on the map as a brand and rapper nobody including those now around him didn't want to sign him, put money behind and gave him an opportunity dame let him rock, open a path way and formed the business to make it possible to be so, I rather be wrong and solid then be right and suspect
Integration really hasn't worked for black people. Instead of begging white people to let us ride their bus, go to their schools, work their jobs etc. We need more people who think like Dame. Create our own lanes & stop begging people who will never truly accept or treat us fairly. I don't agree with Dame's approach but the vision & aspiration I truly respect.
Dame has always made sense when it comes to business but he gives half ass advice …yes you always use ya own money if you have it .it’s nothing wrong with signing a record deal if that’s what you want to do or letting someone else fund ya dream of being in a movie as long as you don’t stay stagnant dame just says if you’re not a boss you’re nothing and that’s not true
There aint no such thing as the fall of dame dash its just a small hiccup all hustlers go thru it.Dame is and will forever be the GOAT.Dame was a young man that turned nothing into something he is Amazing!! Love you Dame no matter what,teeth or no teeth you are everything Dame!!❤❤
Playing the game is called selling out, but you can spend things if you'd like too . Also, the part you missed is, if Dame Dash was white, wayyy less people would hate him, Certain White guys, like Trump might be hated by lots of people, but if you're being honest with yourself, you know people hate independent, driven and generally self sustaining black men, like Dame Dash, just for the simple fact that he's.... black. A lot of people have the " Who does this N****** think he is attitude, towards him." And You know that, but i guess " You're gonna play the game."
the first half of this video was good but the 2nd half was just dame dash slander. obv we all seen the yelling/loudness but you fail to point out jay wanted to cut everybody out since he had def jam’s resources and wanted dame/biggs to take less money. add your boi trying to take ur girl and him making albums w pedophiles, but nah that shit gets swept under the rug here. also, theres more than 1 way to do business not only elon or jeff bezos’ way.
Yo im not hating on dame for yelling at niggas. Especially his crew, yo that man was just trying to get his squad on point and stop fucking up. Coaches yell at there players everyday, so no hate here.
This story has too much of a personal view which seems biased against Jay. Why mentioned child support issues? I thought I was gonna subscribe, but naa
Dame was the visionary, so what maybe he had some bad business ideas after . And do u no for a fact that he lost in those ventures. All this man did was preach self worth , self ownership. U seen him yelling alot because people were trying to get over. Like when he was yelling about the tour jackets and wanted them to say roc a fella instead of Def jam . Branding man and this was a long time ago . Dame was way ahead of everyone. Also thats why Jay thank him at his hall of fame speech. At the end of the day Jay no what Dame did for him and they all no what they did for each other .
Hey Night Section, are you a successful Entrepreneur, because you seem quite condescending towards Dame Dash, who's obviously more successful than you. So you must be worth six figures... Right?
They named their company after the first Billionaire and Jay became raps first Billionaire, while Suge Knight named his company Death Row Records then ended up in Prison. Shows you how much your mindset matters.
dope observation🔥
Damn, never looked at it like that, thanks for the jewel.
But wife ain’t on death row? So your logic is irrelevant
@NIGHT SECTION lol my exact thoughts
Sit down kid. The first american billionaires became that rich by shady monopolist rails and oil. Jay-z claims hé got rich by selling crack. But... he lying. Look at his first video appearences hé doesnt look hard. He look goofy and afraid and his whole style was happy 80 and then one Day hé was this gangster crack kingpin 😂😂😂
Jay learned how to move in a room full of vultures....They were partying and having fun, Jay was thinking on the next level.
All this talk about Dame being a great businessman and hustler, but the guy went from having $50-$60 million when the ROC broke up, to being flat broke.
Dame made a lot of money on rocawear and rocafella buyouts... he reinvested that money badly.
Yeah he did because he’s dumb. He suffer from the Dunning Kruger effect, egotism, and narcissism.
Plus he had to pay all of them child support payments. It's a bad look when you can't handle your personal life like that.
I told people dame had leverage because he had jay ..everyone wanted to do business with them because of jay ..jayz was the product once dame lost the product every one wanted , he lost his leverage ..irv gotti said it best the higher up’s love jay and they never tell him no because they want to in his presence and it’s beneficial because he does good business
This is so clear to see.
@@ybklyn87 people are sheep bro they won’t accept the truth even if it knocked their mother out
By good on business, do you mean, a coon or yes man. A lot people dislike Jay too, because he didn't reach back for his homies, he came up with
Dame dash is smart but he says that whole i use my own money thing cuz he HAS to. Noones gonna invest their money w him cuz of his history n mouth n its obvious you cannot work together w someone like him
I’m not disagreeing with you at all dame is smart but alot of people said he was stealing money from the label to fuel other business ventures…from beans to bleek to jim Jones they’ve all said he stole at one point
Well what goes around comes around, lee daniels tried to rob him 🤣🤦🏻♂️
Dude your assessment is very false. There would be no Jay with Dame. Nobody believed in Jay at all. They hustled Jay hard.
Every video that I watch is about bashing Dame. Yes he has flaws but everyone is ignoring the good that he’s done and the financial backing that he’s given to your fave. I feel that you guys are riding the bandwagon. I grew up in that era I was at the rap seminar I have videos of what really happened and I feel that you’re rewriting history.
At the end of the day.. Dame doesn't care about, yours, mines or anyone's else's opinion.
And that’s why he suck ass! Major corporations care about how you feel about them. That’s why they go out of their way to persuade you to like them and when their public dissent against them about a person or character like Uncle Ben, or Aunt Jemina they cut it out to maintain their bread.. when you don’t listen to except your own voice your destined to fail. Former CEO Travis Kalanick was the same way and it cost him Uber.
I don't think he's a bad businessman but I do believe when those doors close they close
A good broke business man ? 🤣 dame is a bad business man he's broke and took L's in every court case just look at his deposition dude need mental help
He’s a terrible businessman
Jay wanted to keep Dame… Jay wanted to get rid of Biggs that’s the real… Jay felt like Biggs didn’t do much to acquire a 3rd or 33% … Dame ain’t want to leave Biggs out so he left … I don’t like how your trying to shit on Dame but some of your takes are solid. If Jay didn’t have Dame he wouldn’t have been as successful & if Dame didn’t have Jay same thing
I understand the feelings about Dame, I share a lot of em myself but I will say this, in the music business people will literally rob you while smiling and shaking your hand. Why is a honest asshole ostracized by smiling snakes who just want to rob you with no fuss?
Dame is still a bad business man
True but if you’re in that business you got to learn how to navigate to waters Jay did and still doing
that’s just the reality of business, politics and all. business is not just about crunching numbers it’s all encompassing including human relations. i hear you though thank you for watching!
Just like he tried to play peedi with a 15 thousand dollar contract. Tried to Robb him while drinking and being friends.
They actually named their record company after both Rockefeller and a Brooklyn dealer called Rocafella, who died of AIDS, as Nas mentioned in “Ether”!
What you said at the 16:34 mark is 100% facts. And we do need to realize it more.
I don't know if you ever been in his position and dealt with these sort of people, situation s and issues especially as it relates to Lyor Cohen and others closes to him who was the biggest problems in the game and behind the scenes. Dame of course done and said something wild things however and the facts remain that man is more creditable and real then most on UA-cam and moving today.
Wow bro, I'm impressed. This is the best breakdown of Dame Dash I've come across. Everything you said was on point, especially the last remark. Unfortunately, Dame, is still stuck in his ways. Hence why nobody wants to work with him. Even Irv Gotti recently spoke about falling out with Dame, because the way Dame does business is wrong.
If dame was such a tycoon he should be were jay at right or wrong?
@@jimmycharlotin7050 the difference between Jay & Dame is that Jay is more corporate than Dame is but trust me their both on the same level just two different paths. Whoever done this video is half right and half wrong.
@@LiveVisionManagementGroup so if that's the case isn't where Jay-Z os at because burned alot of bridges with people you have at the number artist on the game but his ego got the best of him plus he and Jay are opposite
@@LiveVisionManagementGroup naw they aren't, their personalities play a HUGE PART in where they are in life. People like Jay because he is respectful, no BS but kind whereas Dame is aggressive, rude and disrespectful in business. Have you ever heard the saying YOU CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN SHIT?
@@jimmycharlotin7050 yes I will agree that Dame got in his own way but what is success??? His train of thought success is just to be able and make million dollar deals and feed his family on his on terms. Jay is a different kinda beast I love Jay I’m a day one fan but Jay was more make it the fast way and that’s to rub elbows for different opportunities but his success doesn’t feed Dame at all. Dame and Jay and Biggs all got the same hustle but Jay had way more to offer and Jay used that to gain power and now everybody is working for him.
Dude say dame isn't a good businessman but Biggs tells you himself that from the rip Dame came to him with the ending in mind from day 1. hat whole thing was Dame's idea. Only thing they missed was the amusement park.
Right!!!! Dame was the brains
Kanye said the same thing. He picked Dame over Jay on Drink Champs because he said dame had the vision
@@darnelldarden9429 right!!! Ppl pick Jay cause he the bigger name. Dame was the engine Jay-Z was in the driver seat Biggs was the exterior of the car
there would be no jay without dame. jay was the mascot for roc a fella and dame was the mastermind behind the business. rocawear, movies, liquor, etc was all dames idea he just needed jay to distribute it
@@darnelldarden9429 Kanye was capping cause in the end Ye picked and signed with Jay. And when he fellout with Jay he did do nothing with Dame.
This was a great piece. I just wish as Black people we acknowledge our short comings, and grow from it. And not have too much pride, that prevents us being honest to our selves. Hopefully one day, all parties involved can come back together as family!
This story is not 100% true Damon dash went to private school and not only that he had family so it's not like he was alone after his mother died cut it out man 😏
Great perspective.
I told you about dame dash is the reason why rocafella records broke up
Is not the reason why the rock broke up y’all keep thinking jay is is this and that it was same money that started the rock y’all be killing me
@@djunique4106 Jay-Z was evolving it seems like dame was living for the moment while hov was seeing if you listen to Jay-Z raps he shows ambition their polar opposite
@@djunique4106 Dame is still broke can't pay child support just took another L in court gotta pay back 800,000 to the movie he stole yall dame d!ck riders / fan boys just hate reality
Some people want to appear broke
It’s bad when even if you don’t stay in business together that you still can’t maintain a relationship
Good Job, very thorough!!!
great video, I don't understand how so many people consider him a legendary figure/hustler, he's closer to tragic.
Damn! This is that realness!!! 💯
Jay Came Up Cuz Dame Believed in Him & Invested in Him. Then Jay Blew Up. Jay Teamed Up with Def Jam. Jay Partnered Up with NFL. What Does Jay Actually Start Up or Own Solo by Himself…Dame a Real Hustler, He Could Lose it & Get it Back.. We All Have Our Ups & Downs, It’s Not Alll Juz Dame’s Fault. Get Off the Gas..
I’m just saying that he’s a bad businessman. Jay is successful because of Jay, help along the way? Of course. But Jay has showed us that he’s able to conduct business at the highest levels on multiple occasions. We only know of Dame’s 1 successful venture but he hasn’t been able to replicate it since.
What did Dame invest
You do know The white girl Rocky that Dame got pregnant is the money behind him right.
Dame not owning the masters to all the rocafella albums is stupid
Your not correct dame was the brain and architect of Rockafella as a brand, business , houshold name creating the best writers, producers , talents, managers, executives in the game.
Exactly just talking to talk
Why hasn’t he replicated that on is own
Dame Dash is the one who managed and place Jay Z on the map as a brand and rapper nobody including those now around him didn't want to sign him, put money behind and gave him an opportunity dame let him rock, open a path way and formed the business to make it possible to be so, I rather be wrong and solid then be right and suspect
Finally someone speaks the truth!!!!
Does anyone knows what’s the instrumental called @ 7:58-8:38
Dame is still very rich
But he failed to pay child support
I love how mans not hot was included in as a one hit wonder 😂
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Integration really hasn't worked for black people. Instead of begging white people to let us ride their bus, go to their schools, work their jobs etc. We need more people who think like Dame. Create our own lanes & stop begging people who will never truly accept or treat us fairly. I don't agree with Dame's approach but the vision & aspiration I truly respect.
Can't make another Hov when you been blackballed
I think you may have underestimated Dames current business acumen.
It’s different when you use your own money.
Dame has always made sense when it comes to business but he gives half ass advice …yes you always use ya own money if you have it .it’s nothing wrong with signing a record deal if that’s what you want to do or letting someone else fund ya dream of being in a movie as long as you don’t stay stagnant dame just says if you’re not a boss you’re nothing and that’s not true
@@pedrogates3189 record deals are slave contacts. Artists end up owing the labels.
@@richmuttsmusic2476 not everyone ends up fucked those that don’t know their business usually are the ones to get played
It’s perfect for when you’re the underdog, but they stopped being the underdog, and you gotta call audibles to win
There aint no such thing as the fall of dame dash its just a small hiccup all hustlers go thru it.Dame is and will forever be the GOAT.Dame was a young man that turned nothing into something he is Amazing!! Love you Dame no matter what,teeth or no teeth you are everything Dame!!❤❤
Playing the game is called selling out, but you can spend things if you'd like too
. Also, the part you missed is, if Dame Dash was white, wayyy less people would hate him, Certain White guys, like Trump might be hated by lots of people, but if you're being honest with yourself, you know people hate independent, driven and generally self sustaining black men, like Dame Dash, just for the simple fact that he's.... black.
A lot of people have the " Who does this N****** think he is attitude, towards him."
And You know that, but i guess " You're gonna play the game."
the first half of this video was good but the 2nd half was just dame dash slander. obv we all seen the yelling/loudness but you fail to point out jay wanted to cut everybody out since he had def jam’s resources and wanted dame/biggs to take less money. add your boi trying to take ur girl and him making albums w pedophiles, but nah that shit gets swept under the rug here. also, theres more than 1 way to do business not only elon or jeff bezos’ way.
Yo im not hating on dame for yelling at niggas. Especially his crew, yo that man was just trying to get his squad on point and stop fucking up. Coaches yell at there players everyday, so no hate here.
The roc was actually named off a hustler , not the actual John D Rockefeller
But was the hustler was name after Rockefeller 🤔🤯
None of you corny dudes don’t know the real story.
Dame is smart, actually he's too smart for he's own good, and his ego became his downfall. Too bad tho. Dame was that guy back in the Day.
Tat amusement park idea is crazy bla,in fire....a hip hop theme park😁😁😁😁
Put some respect on Dame name please.
steve jobs definitely made a business on someone else's talent
Kanye west,Kevin hart,lee Daniel,Rachel roy... what are you talking about... clearly a hater...smfh
This story has too much of a personal view which seems biased against Jay. Why mentioned child support issues? I thought I was gonna subscribe, but naa
What do u mean , Dame can call on kanye , Kevin hart etc . Did u actually see kanye just say Dame will be good forever
Dame was the visionary, so what maybe he had some bad business ideas after . And do u no for a fact that he lost in those ventures. All this man did was preach self worth , self ownership. U seen him yelling alot because people were trying to get over. Like when he was yelling about the tour jackets and wanted them to say roc a fella instead of Def jam . Branding man and this was a long time ago . Dame was way ahead of everyone. Also thats why Jay thank him at his hall of fame speech. At the end of the day Jay no what Dame did for him and they all no what they did for each other .
this was a little bias against Dame I want to know the full story
Business is business.
Dame greedy
Hey Night Section, are you a successful Entrepreneur, because you seem quite condescending towards Dame Dash, who's obviously more successful than you. So you must be worth six figures... Right?
dame did make another hov, he made kanye and gave kanye the platform
He signed Kanye that’s it Kanye makes is own beats and sometimes write his own rhymes
@@JeromeFitchett you can say the same for jay, when he signs artist
Dame should have went to business school for 4 years after the breakup.
This old snipping clip old
Bad breakdown
I what to know what really happen. I guess we will get a tell all book one day.