We learned that from the Godfather. Dame is Sonny. He let his ego and anger blind him to reason. Jay's is Mikey. Cool calm and a strategist. And just the movie we saw just who was the better leader
I love Jay Z but if you’re saying he got to his goat level by being a “good” person then you’re just as fooled as legendary business moguls want folks to think.
lmao the "skill" is appearing to be a good person while being a ruthless cutthroat. i'm not saying that's jay but american capitalism definitely does not reward being good or nice. there may be some examples of people like that but they are the rare exception to the rule.
@@napatora easy to work with doesn’t mean good or nice. It just means you don’t make the job more difficult than it needs to be and you don’t hinder the process of making money. Jay didn’t hinder the process and this when they needed a new guy running the label, they chose Jay.
@@lmtrey5 I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant. Regardless it’s just common sense, who do you think was easier to do business with? Dame or Jay? Business is the numbers is very important obviously but most millionaires have options. Meaning if they can potentially make money but have to deal with a dame.. most would just find another deal
Want to learn how to go broke 101? Act like Dame in 1:04 I once heard a wise man who said: “If you don’t respect a penny, you don’t deserve a dollar!” And that’s the principle I’ve been living by ever since!
you idiot, they were interfering with his business. Respect goes two ways and thats not saying Dame had any for them in the first so it was bound to go down at some point. His mistake was not addressing the issue the right way
They say Dame was using company money to start other ventures without his partners. That’s a big problem. They say Dame was using the Company account like it was his personal. If you listen to the end of the black album on the last track, Jay Z called out Dame and said “Dame, remember when you was keeping all the books, you had that fucked up ass handwriting and shit, your accounting was crazy wrong, but we figured it out”. Jay just sat back and played chess, he was always paying attention, just not acting like he was.
Quoted wrong Hov didn’t say this bruh. His exact words at the end of “My 1st Song” are as follows Dame, whattup! Robbing the bank Niggas thought we was crazy, man, remember uhh You had that fucked up ass handwriting You was writing all the numbers that we was spending down For the videos we was doing ourselves (Ski, whattup? Original Flavor in the house) Your accounting was crazy wrong and shit But we still put it together This is him rifting and reminiscing on the song’s outro which makes sense since the Black Album was supposed to be his retirement from rap.
Outsmarted Dame how?? Smh. Yall just make comments like somebody asked Dame Dash to sell his shares and run!! He could have kept his shares in Rocawear and be a silent partner whilst moving on... instead, he sold and cut all ties only to lose out for more in the end...
@j t it has nothing to do with knowledge in this instance. It's all bs when speaking about other people. I agree with your points regarding knowledge. But when speaking on other people and gossipy situations.. my original cliche applies...
Shlomo Jewdog Rabbi Barksteinbergovitz bro you just proved that dick heads point ignore negative energy and act like it don’t exist and just move on let niggas think what they wanna think if you know you have it you have that’s all that matters
Revenant no.....its the fact dame dash a dipshit that makes it ok.....marrying a fuckin intern at YOUR company? Thats some simple jack shit Dame should of composed himself, disregarded women and aquired funds.
Dame seems like the type of dude that will mess something up but blame everyone except himself and that’s a dangerous person to be around in my opinion
@@nosmoke6556 how can the talent be shady man people love dame for the same reason they hate diddy these guys leech of talent and that’s a fact when people leave them they are successful
I mean how did he not do some shady shit. Are y’all that blind? Dame and Biggs backed Jay when no one else would. They put up the money and started the label. There’s no Jay without dame and there’s no dame without Jay. Jay wasn’t shady for branching out on his own. Jay was shady for going behind his brothers back and not letting him know the deal. Meanwhile dame is going in board rooms and yelling at people because he thinks they’re having meetings for his artist behind his back. Dame really looked like a fool while jay knew what was going on the whole time. That’s what’s foul. You don’t let your homie make an ass of himself like that. This all could have been prevented if jay was straight up.
@@QuaIityContent any artist that get signed that get signed by a label and gets an advance it means the label is investing in them when they are nobodies so does that mean they should own everything the make and have a lifetime contract this is exactly what diddy does to his bad boy artist he robs them then tells them I believed in you when no one else did suge knight and Birdman play from the same book as well
It took me so long to watch this video because I just knew this British guy would not know shit he was talking about, and after watching I have to eat my words because this is the absolute most detailed and accurate account of what happened with Rocafella Records. This guy really took his time to do research and also pay attention to details. I’m very impressed. You definitely get a subscription from me.
@@damienright8032 he assumed he wouldn't know shit about rap because he was white and british , so he is racist and xenophobic. And btw , white isn't a race
@@allindbz typically a British white person wouldn’t know anything about this shit so no it’s not racist I’m pretty sure even regular whites feel the same so stfu tryna argue
I interviewed Jay-Z in Stockholm 1996 and Damon destroyed the interview by talking all the time. He answered questions for Jay-Z and semi-changed his answers until Jay-Z really looked ashamed….
I think Bleek intentionally did that to piss off Dame. Dame was going at everyone on those tours and he got got. Then that big dummy went on to kill his businesses.
Dame seen how big Jayz was getting and couldn't handle how successful Jayz was becoming and seen him as competition...... But his ego and pride just kept getting in the way of making the best logical decisions.
Dash is his own worst enemy. His ego won’t let him admit that he wasn’t as good a businessman as he thought. Watched too many gangster movies as a kid and thinks he can negotiate multi million dollar deals in white tees and sweat suits. He’s a clown.
But the funny thing is when he posts clips of his cheesy movies on Instagram the comments are 90% positive. Peolwl bigging up his films and his business sense. Someone above said Dame is major to hood people and I think they are right.
Reality is he did put together multimillion dollar deals in t-shirts an Air Force one's You can't knock that he helped build a half billion dollar company that's facts He'll always be a legend for what he put together they changed the game
Christopher Simmons No doubt about it. He definitely built a brand but his ego got in the way and he couldn’t accept that Jay was shining more than him. Don’t get me wrong. Jay is shady too. He was just smarter about it. No one gets out without getting dirty.
Dame dash, suge knight and irv gotti 3 dudes with over inflated egos who NEVER realised they weren't the golden goose. Jay z, dre and 50 cent, keep doing your thing.
He literally got the name of Roc-A-Fella's history wrong. It was a hustler in NY. That's why Nas said "Roc A Fella died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter. That's the guy you chose to name your company after?"
John D. Rockerfella and his son were both the riches men in the world. What does “dying of aids” have to do with Jay Z’s company. It was about the business not his personal life.
This video was actually Damn near perfect!!! I've posted & said this numerous times, Dame Dash is 50/50. 50% of what he says is Powerful & Motivational the other 50% is Garbage!!! All the people giving this a thumbs down are the people who don't believe fire is hot or water is wet. Figure out how to see or get your hands on "International Grizzly". It's a documentary that Dame had Choke No Joke shoot & direct (which Choke NEVER got paid for, which is why he's been dissing Dame for over 10 year's now). The DVD is basically 2 part's the 1st 80% is Dame & Biggs blowing tons of Roc - A-Fella $$$ all over Europe with a bunch of flunkies they took with them. Dame claims they are in Europe to expand the Roc-A-Fella & Rocawear brand. You can tell Jay is about to leave because they get a call about Jay recording Me & My Girlfriend with Beyonce they knew nothing about. Later after the break up Dame refuses to mention Rocawear at all & is wearing his "CEO" clothing line. Jay made the right BU$INE$$ move & even Biggs has NO problem with Jay & done business with him since he came home!!!!
At 12:34 Dame is sitting on a barber chair and there is a guy with a comb making believe he is combing Dame's hair. But, Dame is bald. He has NO HAIR. HAHAAAAAA !!!
That's not what Jay has actually said about Damon though, he knew what Damon was like way before Wt males who are in the business of Black humiliation were in the room.
@@carloslosamoore1 you are the clown ass who is obviously incapable of applying critical thinking. Everyone has a boss. Everyone has to rely on someone, or group for income. Whether it be a board of directors, investors, customers, etc. Think beyond the surface clown.
I think he was just misunderstood. He was more about taking the long route and investing their product and brand to the culture. Whereas those around him were sprinting to get rich by selling to mainstream media. Idk what really happened because I wasnt there but just an educated guess.
@@kevionthomas5984 I admire what he accomplished. The brother has a gift and it is clear. But we cannot excuse abhorrent behavior. The two are not mutually exclusive. Nah mean? He is both repugnant and widely creative from a business perspective; the latter doesn't grant him a pass. Chill Dame, be humble.
Mr. CYP yes they do. No matter how big your business is your customers are the people you get money from and the government are the ones who benefit from you. No matter how strong you are, you can never be strong enough to run everything around you.
Am I the only one that always thought Jay just flat-out snaked & screwed Dame over out of pure greed & selfishness? Maybe cuz I was like 4yrs old when all this happened? But yo after watching this...Dame has/had a massive inferiority complex e.g. his insatiable desire to flaunt weath & "a$$hole" demeanor. Real talk, I wouldn't wanna be in business w that dude either. And counting the 2000s lawsuit settlement, Dame got approx 40-45mil in late-1990s money (inflation adjusted probably 60-70min in 2022 money), PLUS owning (most likely, seems like) at least 50% of the masters to Reasonable Doubt -- which is STILL Hov's most classic album even 26 years and 10+ albums later. Forgive me if I don't shed any tears for Dame's woes and misfortunes. Jay owes him nothing & Dame maybe didn't receive the *full* buyout value commensurate to his ownership stake & intellectual property ... but I'd say he got at least 60-70% of it. And that's just business right there, that shit happens every day across the globe- someone getting shorted 20-25% based on poor negotiation or lack of functional leverage or even just sheer stupidity/greed. Long story short, this vid completely switched this preconceived idea I had of the situation. Honestly sounded like Jay was just done w him, and not even inna "im goin screw you over n take everything" kinda way... moreso inna "Yo I can't even talk to this MF anymore. Call the lawyers, let's figure out what we gotta do & how we gotta split this pie up, and let's get it done and gtfoh & away from this arrogant lunatic.. and If Dame call looking for me, just tell him I'm in London or some sh*t" kinda vibe
Dame is his own worse enemy he treated so many people like shit! He thought he could act like he was better then other people especially people that wasn't as successful. I believe Jay Z got tired of how Dame was representing him and how he treated people reflected Jay I think Jay realized that Dame wasn't as business smart as him and he could go way further on his own then his self.
Leave her alone..with her fine self!..none of us know shit as to what exactly happened but i do know as long as that bitch ass lyor cohen is involved theres alot of stealing going on so with that said theres no way to know exactly what anything is...live yr life not theirs...
That was crazy, he put all his money on a chick he was sleeping with, got married had a baby and she left him, still getting money out his broke butt! All those sex movies no one wanted
Jay-Z had to go where the YT people where. He had no choice. He became an asset to them. He had no control over where he wanted to go. He had to go with the YT people.
@@0Lu.Lu0 Jay-Z had to go where the YT people where. He had no choice. He became an asset to them. He had no control over where he wanted to go. He had to go with the YT people.
@@ianwilson4483 Then we shouldn’t be idolizing him as someone who made the biggest “chess move” and as someone who has so much power. It’s not that he “had no choice”, it’s that he is a yt sprmcst in black skin, similar to Barak Obama.
@@0Lu.Lu0 your saying it’s messing up everyone back but everyone who had talent post rocafella was successful eg jay and Kanye the rest were just leeches with no talent none of them even went platinum
say what u want but dame brought cam/dipset to the roc and made them more than jay.. took a chance on kanye.. dude shouldnt be dismissed because hes loud
Especially if that's your boy that got you to where you're at... I could never get 1 over somebody who helped me with my dreams. Jay a backstabber and a fraud.
@@aryaxz2255 If you're in a business partnership you suppose to be in constant communication with each other to finalize deals. Jay had beef with Cam at the time and Dame puts him and Dipset in a video and wanted him to be VP. You straighten it out with your associate first even if it's for the greater good. That's what a partnership is, not go behind ones back
@@coinkidink9997 Dame was spending the company money like crazy to a point Jay had to put a halt to everything and let him know all expenses come thru him first. Between yelling and screaming as well as belittling ppl in meetings, restaurants, parties, Jay had enough of it. There comes a time in ones life you have to show professionalism and class. Dame could have been sharing billions with Jay.
Yo Ross this was an amazing breakdown of what happened and a very comprehensive understanding of how everything went down. I pieced all this together through research but this is GREAT! I’m a businessman so I appreciate this! Thank you 🙏🏾
The difference between arrogance and confidence is Dame and Jay Z. Jay Z is confident and Dame is arrogant. Confidence allows for a person to humble themselves and lean on others for advice. Arrogant individuals believe they have all the answers and they don’t.
Samantha King it’s sad because Dame could accomplish great things if he just humble himself. He has a lot of great ideas, but what’s a great idea to a person that’s arrogant.
Can't even call it a finesse if the other person Is being stupid and making poor decisions. I can't even be mad at the way Jay came up, he's the definition of letting toxic people go in your life. I like the way you broke this down cause I always looked at Jay as the bad guy. In actuality just a man on a mission to get what is rightfully his.
But hes still got more money than you me an everyone commenting on this hating ass post .. I respect Dame even though I feel he has wasted a lot of his talent 💯
I wish they’d just squash the beef. They just grew apart. I see both sides of it equally. I see how Dame feels betrayed but I also see how Jay Z was growing up seeing the big picture. Can’t be mad at either of them
Regardless of his actions, both Dame and Biggs will and should always have a bad taste in their mouths about the way in which jay went about dissolving the label without saying anything. Not excusing dames faults or saying jay is a snake but seeing that everyone says that they were friends I can understand how everyone could take this whole thing personally as well as having things change so much financially. While we celebrate Jay leaving with complete ownership, they left with only one master of the whole catalog
My thing is that nobody talks about is Dame was stealing company money out of Rocafella to fund his own personal projects that had nothing to do with Jay and Jay got wind of it through one of the reps at Rocafella, that's how all this started, so I dont see how Jay is wrong in any way period, but not only that, how could Jay be wrong for just wanting to leave somebody if he felt he was out growing a guy, dont he have that right to say I dont want to stay in this environment? So with the fact that Dame was stealing and yelling at everybody he came into contact with, because he felt he was the smartest and everybody was beneath him, that's how Dame thinks...
CD Williams you literally just agreed with me. They kept the masters because they are real hustlers who couldn’t walk away empty handed. But they were NOT happy with jay leaving the way he did. Don’t play yourself fam
@Rotweiler Scholar If we are judging dame by average mediocre standards then yea at 29 million he doing more than the average person. If you hold him to a higher standard due to how long he has been in the game he got shafted with that 29 million dollar deal. Let's keep it real. I'll always root for my brothas to succeed but at the end of the day there was no growth with dame dash which is why he is in the position he is today. Still doing better than most people but not considering how long he been in the game and comparing him to his contemporaries. Jay put in the work and grew as a businessman. Keep it real and hold dame to a higher standard.
i like how ross introduces financial terms like "stakeholders" then defines them with a picture or thru context.. your channel is truly educational bro but at the same time not dry like pbs or sumn
Dame Dash kept it real with me. About publishing the dismantling of the label and ownership. Much respect to him not taking advantage of a new artist like other CEOs tried to do
@@scar6352 Roca fella still has Jay Z's Masters for Reasonable doubt- the only one in that catalog being sold now, thats' worth anything- Thats all Jay Z wanted! Dame and Biggs wouldn't let him buy it back!
There's something about JayZ that sets him apart. He's like a business man who happens to rap and enjoy HipHop culture... Everyone else is a rapper who wants to play corporate and falls somewhere along the way... A well deserved billion Mr. Carter.
Being emotional while making decision is always a bad move
People need to read that comment again. And then again
Angry is Good!!!!
Angelo Barnette super facts!
Great comment
We learned that from the Godfather. Dame is Sonny. He let his ego and anger blind him to reason. Jay's is Mikey. Cool calm and a strategist. And just the movie we saw just who was the better leader
he really said “go clear a sample or something” 💀
lmaoo
This is so iconic
"Sample questions deserve simple answers." Shameless plug.
Jay Ruki 😂😂😂👌🏽
Hov
Being easy to work with is an underrated career skill. Jay Z’s success and Dame Dash’s downfall are both perfect examples.
I love Jay Z but if you’re saying he got to his goat level by being a “good” person then you’re just as fooled as legendary business moguls want folks to think.
lmao the "skill" is appearing to be a good person while being a ruthless cutthroat. i'm not saying that's jay but american capitalism definitely does not reward being good or nice. there may be some examples of people like that but they are the rare exception to the rule.
People love to see black men fall. Gotta love America.
@@napatora easy to work with doesn’t mean good or nice. It just means you don’t make the job more difficult than it needs to be and you don’t hinder the process of making money. Jay didn’t hinder the process and this when they needed a new guy running the label, they chose Jay.
@@lmtrey5 I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant. Regardless it’s just common sense, who do you think was easier to do business with? Dame or Jay? Business is the numbers is very important obviously but most millionaires have options. Meaning if they can potentially make money but have to deal with a dame.. most would just find another deal
Low key and humbleness always wins over flash and arrogance.
lol. right
Tell that to Kanye
Buddy, this is a amazing quote
Mr. CYP that nigga is still worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is highly successful. I don’t agree with his politics though.
Kanye would beg to differ
Dame is the perfect example of what happens when you don't have manners.
And drugs
@@lov4570 😆😆
Dame is just as bad as Cohen at the end of the day
Totally Agree 💯
Or the superstar rapper
This guy is a genius narrator & storyteller. I laughed, went aha, and was just totally zoned in from start to finish. Well done!
Genius my ass
Want to learn how to go broke 101? Act like Dame in 1:04 I once heard a wise man who said: “If you don’t respect a penny, you don’t deserve a dollar!” And that’s the principle I’ve been living by ever since!
you idiot, they were interfering with his business. Respect goes two ways and thats not saying Dame had any for them in the first so it was bound to go down at some point. His mistake was not addressing the issue the right way
Well spoken
lucaspenido who are you and you what have you done ?
Mkb Bigga L heard about a thing called Google? I’m not doing your homework.
@@G00dwILLHuNt1n9 xss is
They say Dame was using company money to start other ventures without his partners. That’s a big problem. They say Dame was using the Company account like it was his personal. If you listen to the end of the black album on the last track, Jay Z called out Dame and said “Dame, remember when you was keeping all the books, you had that fucked up ass handwriting and shit, your accounting was crazy wrong, but we figured it out”. Jay just sat back and played chess, he was always paying attention, just not acting like he was.
Quoted wrong Hov didn’t say this bruh. His exact words at the end of “My 1st Song” are as follows
Dame, whattup! Robbing the bank
Niggas thought we was crazy, man, remember uhh
You had that fucked up ass handwriting
You was writing all the numbers that we was spending down
For the videos we was doing ourselves
(Ski, whattup? Original Flavor in the house)
Your accounting was crazy wrong and shit
But we still put it together
This is him rifting and reminiscing on the song’s outro which makes sense since the Black Album was supposed to be his retirement from rap.
I always thought that line was more meant to infer jays career was started with money that wasn’t accounted for.
😮
@@ebn128 thank you for clearing that up! So, all in all; was Jay-Z a snake or was he in the right?
He did say that
Jay isnt dirty.... This is Chess not checkers.... He outsmarted Dame on every level
And to bruise his big ego worst a younger Brooklyn guy did it to him😭😆
That shit burns him deep down cause Dame doesnt think anyone outside of harlem is a real hustler @shauncathey9365
Outsmarted Dame how?? Smh. Yall just make comments like somebody asked Dame Dash to sell his shares and run!! He could have kept his shares in Rocawear and be a silent partner whilst moving on... instead, he sold and cut all ties only to lose out for more in the end...
Ongggg
He who knows everything knows nothing at all
He who knows, knows that he knows nothing!
Facts
yea researching on the web is so hard, I have to hire a *team* for me to do that
Or, those who know dont speak and those who speak dont know!
@j t it has nothing to do with knowledge in this instance. It's all bs when speaking about other people. I agree with your points regarding knowledge. But when speaking on other people and gossipy situations.. my original cliche applies...
Dame then, "is $100,000 money? Not to me it is."
Dame now, "sorry judge, I don't have money to pay this $2,400 fine."
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
@Shlomo Jewdog Rabbi Barksteinbergovitz says every broke non talented person
Shlomo Jewdog Rabbi Barksteinbergovitz bro you just proved that dick heads point ignore negative energy and act like it don’t exist and just move on let niggas think what they wanna think if you know you have it you have that’s all that matters
How u know he really didn't have it though ?
@@KD-wc4rs Because a cocky person would have paid it with pride!
@@blacdavis i don't think so in this context because he said he had problems with the person he was paying it to
Damon Dash is the perfect example that pride comes before fall. He was too arrogant so he lost everything
True
@@ronnybueller they cool with kissing a** bruh
Right
What about Kanye?
@@bigdick4090ti he got demons, he have money and fame but he's miserable
Bosses can get bossy, but if you are constantly disrespectful, no one will follow you even if you can lead.
Rachel Roy was the one who really finessed him. Nobody wanna admit that nor does he.
Yeah she's the real one, and Dame fucked himself on these other deals more than Jay finessed him.
she was hot tho
Jason Rigone So because she was fine, it’s okay that she finessed him?
Revenant no.....its the fact dame dash a dipshit that makes it ok.....marrying a fuckin intern at YOUR company? Thats some simple jack shit
Dame should of composed himself, disregarded women and aquired funds.
@@Mandology575 nah, but most of them hoes do it.
Dame seems like the type of dude that will mess something up but blame everyone except himself and that’s a dangerous person to be around in my opinion
All this time Dame really had me convinced that Jay really did something to him, turns out he just finessed himself...
Facts
Jay probably did do sum shady shit. That’s just business and the streets but yea Dame had it coming.
@@nosmoke6556 how can the talent be shady man people love dame for the same reason they hate diddy these guys leech of talent and that’s a fact when people leave them they are successful
I mean how did he not do some shady shit. Are y’all that blind? Dame and Biggs backed Jay when no one else would. They put up the money and started the label. There’s no Jay without dame and there’s no dame without Jay. Jay wasn’t shady for branching out on his own. Jay was shady for going behind his brothers back and not letting him know the deal. Meanwhile dame is going in board rooms and yelling at people because he thinks they’re having meetings for his artist behind his back. Dame really looked like a fool while jay knew what was going on the whole time. That’s what’s foul. You don’t let your homie make an ass of himself like that. This all could have been prevented if jay was straight up.
@@QuaIityContent any artist that get signed that get signed by a label and gets an advance it means the label is investing in them when they are nobodies so does that mean they should own everything the make and have a lifetime contract this is exactly what diddy does to his bad boy artist he robs them then tells them I believed in you when no one else did suge knight and Birdman play from the same book as well
It took me so long to watch this video because I just knew this British guy would not know shit he was talking about, and after watching I have to eat my words because this is the absolute most detailed and accurate account of what happened with Rocafella Records. This guy really took his time to do research and also pay attention to details. I’m very impressed. You definitely get a subscription from me.
Same thing i was thinking, but he really put in work with his videos
So you are racist ?
@@allindbz British 'relating to Great Britain or the United Kingdom, or to its people or language', where does race come in place?
@@damienright8032 he assumed he wouldn't know shit about rap because he was white and british , so he is racist and xenophobic. And btw , white isn't a race
@@allindbz typically a British white person wouldn’t know anything about this shit so no it’s not racist I’m pretty sure even regular whites feel the same so stfu tryna argue
I interviewed Jay-Z in Stockholm 1996 and Damon destroyed the interview by talking all the time. He answered questions for Jay-Z and semi-changed his answers until Jay-Z really looked ashamed….
Yea that’s debatable who is you in the first place?
I was there
I can confirm, I was the semi-changed answers
As they say, Post the link or it never happened!!
@@Dhal-SimMusic...lmao
10 million a year and his masters? You can't beat that with a bat. I would've done that deal in an instant.
Exactly
Of course!! Your a fucking bum!!
Vincent Hawes *You’re
if thats the #’s , how did dame agree?
We know
your content never dissappoints, thank you for all the lore 😍
Anybody else revisiting this and would like to see an update in 2024!
"Jay wasn't signed to the ROC he was the ROC "
FACTS👍👍
SHUT UP IDIOT
Steve Jones 💯💯
It's funny, but because of his ego, probably everyone around Jay understood that except Dame.
@@odisclemons9700 facts
Bleek bogus for saying "I ain't never had a rocafella coat that said Memphis Bleek" 😆 right in front of dame 😂
That shit had Dame hot
Yeah salty ASF
Dames face afterward was priceless
Yea Bleek was to geek over that coat he posed to played it off a lil bit 😂
I think Bleek intentionally did that to piss off Dame. Dame was going at everyone on those tours and he got got. Then that big dummy went on to kill his businesses.
Dame seen how big Jayz was getting and couldn't handle how successful Jayz was becoming and seen him as competition...... But his ego and pride just kept getting in the way of making the best logical decisions.
All Facts!🎯💯
Exactly
5:39 the way Nore responding with “Mmm” got me weak 😂
They're taking shots and smoking the whole time. It's a wonder they make it through the whole interview on drink champs! Love it
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he was being hella extra
Dennis Walker he always like that! Hha
😭😭😭😭😭😭
That's what you say when you are lost in the conversation and don't know how to contribute.
Dash is his own worst enemy. His ego won’t let him admit that he wasn’t as good a businessman as he thought. Watched too many gangster movies as a kid and thinks he can negotiate multi million dollar deals in white tees and sweat suits. He’s a clown.
Erich Knodel facts!
But the funny thing is when he posts clips of his cheesy movies on Instagram the comments are 90% positive. Peolwl bigging up his films and his business sense. Someone above said Dame is major to hood people and I think they are right.
Reality is he did put together multimillion dollar deals in t-shirts an Air Force one's
You can't knock that he helped build a half billion dollar company that's facts
He'll always be a legend for what he put together they changed the game
Christopher Simmons No doubt about it. He definitely built a brand but his ego got in the way and he couldn’t accept that Jay was shining more than him. Don’t get me wrong. Jay is shady too. He was just smarter about it. No one gets out without getting dirty.
@@erichknodel4334 There would be no roc without Dame. You're a fool.
Dame dash, suge knight and irv gotti
3 dudes with over inflated egos who NEVER realised they weren't the golden goose. Jay z, dre and 50 cent, keep doing your thing.
Dame is richer than all of those names except for dre and Jay. If dre isn't a billionaire then nvm also him too
@@Godloveszaza no one likes a liar, no one.
3 words... light skinned ninjas
@@Godloveszazasike 😫
This is honestly the best and most accurate video I’ve ever watched regarding Dame and Hov! Good job.
Then you haven't seen any of my VLAD interviews !!! Roc Nation is now run by the government !!!
He literally got the name of Roc-A-Fella's history wrong. It was a hustler in NY. That's why Nas said "Roc A Fella died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter. That's the guy you chose to name your company after?"
How old are you?? Lmao
I am 36 my guy. Not new to this hip-hip shit at all.
John D. Rockerfella and his son were both the riches men in the world. What does “dying of aids” have to do with Jay Z’s company. It was about the business not his personal life.
This video was actually Damn near perfect!!! I've posted & said this numerous times, Dame Dash is 50/50. 50% of what he says is Powerful & Motivational the other 50% is Garbage!!! All the people giving this a thumbs down are the people who don't believe fire is hot or water is wet. Figure out how to see or get your hands on "International Grizzly". It's a documentary that Dame had Choke No Joke shoot & direct (which Choke NEVER got paid for, which is why he's been dissing Dame for over 10 year's now). The DVD is basically 2 part's the 1st 80% is Dame & Biggs blowing tons of Roc - A-Fella $$$ all over Europe with a bunch of flunkies they took with them. Dame claims they are in Europe to expand the Roc-A-Fella & Rocawear brand. You can tell Jay is about to leave because they get a call about Jay recording Me & My Girlfriend with Beyonce they knew nothing about. Later after the break up Dame refuses to mention Rocawear at all & is wearing his "CEO" clothing line. Jay made the right BU$INE$$ move & even Biggs has NO problem with Jay & done business with him since he came home!!!!
At 12:34 Dame is sitting on a barber chair and there is a guy with a comb making believe he is combing Dame's hair. But, Dame is bald. He has NO HAIR. HAHAAAAAA !!!
I swear every clip I’ve ever seen with Jay and Dame Jay looks absolutely irritated with him lmao
That's not what Jay has actually said about Damon though, he knew what Damon was like way before Wt males who are in the business of Black humiliation were in the room.
@@0Lu.Lu0 lol shut up
Everyone has a boss. Dame talks like he is a billionaire, but in fact came nowhere close.
Plenty of millionaires don't have bosses clown.
@@carloslosamoore1 you are the clown ass who is obviously incapable of applying critical thinking. Everyone has a boss. Everyone has to rely on someone, or group for income. Whether it be a board of directors, investors, customers, etc. Think beyond the surface clown.
I think he was just misunderstood. He was more about taking the long route and investing their product and brand to the culture. Whereas those around him were sprinting to get rich by selling to mainstream media. Idk what really happened because I wasnt there but just an educated guess.
@@kevionthomas5984 I admire what he accomplished. The brother has a gift and it is clear. But we cannot excuse abhorrent behavior. The two are not mutually exclusive. Nah mean? He is both repugnant and widely creative from a business perspective; the latter doesn't grant him a pass. Chill Dame, be humble.
Mr. CYP yes they do. No matter how big your business is your customers are the people you get money from and the government are the ones who benefit from you. No matter how strong you are, you can never be strong enough to run everything around you.
Am I the only one that always thought Jay just flat-out snaked & screwed Dame over out of pure greed & selfishness? Maybe cuz I was like 4yrs old when all this happened? But yo after watching this...Dame has/had a massive inferiority complex e.g. his insatiable desire to flaunt weath & "a$$hole" demeanor. Real talk, I wouldn't wanna be in business w that dude either. And counting the 2000s lawsuit settlement, Dame got approx 40-45mil in late-1990s money (inflation adjusted probably 60-70min in 2022 money), PLUS owning (most likely, seems like) at least 50% of the masters to Reasonable Doubt -- which is STILL Hov's most classic album even 26 years and 10+ albums later. Forgive me if I don't shed any tears for Dame's woes and misfortunes. Jay owes him nothing & Dame maybe didn't receive the *full* buyout value commensurate to his ownership stake & intellectual property ... but I'd say he got at least 60-70% of it. And that's just business right there, that shit happens every day across the globe- someone getting shorted 20-25% based on poor negotiation or lack of functional leverage or even just sheer stupidity/greed. Long story short, this vid completely switched this preconceived idea I had of the situation.
Honestly sounded like Jay was just done w him, and not even inna "im goin screw you over n take everything" kinda way... moreso inna "Yo I can't even talk to this MF anymore. Call the lawyers, let's figure out what we gotta do & how we gotta split this pie up, and let's get it done and gtfoh & away from this arrogant lunatic.. and If Dame call looking for me, just tell him I'm in London or some sh*t" kinda vibe
You talk too damn much..like Dame
Dame is his own worse enemy he treated so many people like shit! He thought he could act like he was better then other people especially people that wasn't as successful. I believe Jay Z got tired of how Dame was representing him and how he treated people reflected Jay I think Jay realized that Dame wasn't as business smart as him and he could go way further on his own then his self.
Nice etits
Leave her alone..with her fine self!..none of us know shit as to what exactly happened but i do know as long as that bitch ass lyor cohen is involved theres alot of stealing going on so with that said theres no way to know exactly what anything is...live yr life not theirs...
@TahitianTreatSkeetJuice Fucking idiot!
Facts
@@larryhughes4327 Damn I didn’t want to say it but yay she fine as hell
Dame Dash: "I rather invest in a woman."
Rachel Roy: "I don't talk, I make money moves."
That was crazy, he put all his money on a chick he was sleeping with, got married had a baby and she left him, still getting money out his broke butt! All those sex movies no one wanted
“Is a hundred thousand dollars money? Not to me.” Dame Dash net worth is listed at ten grand lmao.
you didn’t understand what he was saying
@@iamjp1 Yeah we do. But it's money to him now, eh?
@@christopherwashington663 nope, still missed it then.
@@iamjp1 explain
@@iamjp1 explain
This was the most comprehensive explanation of the situation. Well Done Good Sir!
*These* are the type of stories we want, Ross! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
Uncle Ice word
Fr this video was pure gold
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He so off.nothing near the truth
If they were more accurate
Dame is arrogant but the thing is in life you should always be humble because if you don't life will humble you
Mansa Musa was the world's first billionaire.
Salute bro for this comment 💯💯💪🏾 saved me the time on replying to that whole Rockefeller comment🚫🧢
Nobody Cares dude
Wasn’t it Queen Ngiza or Tippu Tipp the black slave traders?
I had that Hard Knock Life DVD. Who remembers DJ Clue’s hair 😂
Mans had an afro , a fade , and a ceasar all at the same time lmaooo
Ctfu
OYDK Art a Brooklyn too had to rep for all the boroughs😂😂
Yess!!!😂😂😂
This was so enlightening. Used to feel sorry for Dame but with these nahhh, I would have dipped too. Great story telling Ross
“Baby phat covering more young women in P’s than Rkelly “boy stop 😂😂😂
TrainWithQuan he said it so fluently
The stroke of a true G.
The phrase " OHH SHIT!" Springs to mind
I Screamed!! 😂😂
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Now please do a “How Rachel Roy Finessed Dame Dash.” -Guy with a boss
Pippenfan10 finessed? when he helped bankrupt her business and owes her thousands in child support? right lmao
Alfred Hicks truth
Alfred Hicks Nah You Cant Do Thats Business And Child Support Are Separate.
I guess no body gonna about Dame Dash had something to do with Aaliyah death and he and Jay Z both were fighting over her ,huh?Js
Carmuse Mitchem and r kelly had been up in aaliyah long before both of em....shit long before she was legal....
Dame Dash wanted to be a martyr for “the culture” without realizing how much leverage he had working with Jay Z.
Damn as an entrepreneur myself I definitely can see that an ego check is critical in making it. Awesome video Trap Lore👊🏾
3 years later. You made it buddy?
Jay Z had to get away from Dame
And that's a personal preference that didn't have include breaking up a Black-Owned Empire and fuckin everybody's bag up.
Jay-Z had to go where the YT people where. He had no choice. He became an asset to them. He had no control over where he wanted to go. He had to go with the YT people.
@@0Lu.Lu0 Jay-Z had to go where the YT people where. He had no choice. He became an asset to them. He had no control over where he wanted to go. He had to go with the YT people.
@@ianwilson4483 Then we shouldn’t be idolizing him as someone who made the biggest “chess move” and as someone who has so much power.
It’s not that he “had no choice”, it’s that he is a yt sprmcst in black skin, similar to Barak Obama.
@@0Lu.Lu0 your saying it’s messing up everyone back but everyone who had talent post rocafella was successful eg jay and Kanye the rest were just leeches with no talent none of them even went platinum
the suge reference “all in the videos” was so effortlessly hilarious 😭🤣
say what u want but dame brought cam/dipset to the roc and made them more than jay.. took a chance on kanye.. dude shouldnt be dismissed because hes loud
He went behind Jay's back to do it. And all that yelling doesn't wash in corporate America
@@TheTrut416 if going behind jay z back give us kanye west who gives a shit
Especially if that's your boy that got you to where you're at... I could never get 1 over somebody who helped me with my dreams. Jay a backstabber and a fraud.
@@aryaxz2255 If you're in a business partnership you suppose to be in constant communication with each other to finalize deals. Jay had beef with Cam at the time and Dame puts him and Dipset in a video and wanted him to be VP. You straighten it out with your associate first even if it's for the greater good. That's what a partnership is, not go behind ones back
@@coinkidink9997 Dame was spending the company money like crazy to a point Jay had to put a halt to everything and let him know all expenses come thru him first. Between yelling and screaming as well as belittling ppl in meetings, restaurants, parties, Jay had enough of it. There comes a time in ones life you have to show professionalism and class. Dame could have been sharing billions with Jay.
Yo Ross this was an amazing breakdown of what happened and a very comprehensive understanding of how everything went down. I pieced all this together through research but this is GREAT! I’m a businessman so I appreciate this! Thank you 🙏🏾
Hold up... that R Kelly line had me on the floor
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10:23
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Look at dame face when bleek was talkin about the coat he was tight 😂
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In a human resources terminology, Dame has no soft skills
Nice
@@COMPACTTVHD well, i wouldn't go that far
Touche
koffiged 🤣
Yo the person they keep showing in the video is bleek not dame dash with the roc a fella jacket
Jay-Z🗣 SRRY dame 🗣I Had to get off the boat, so I can walk on water.
After Dame left Rocawear he was running around saying how he left the company in pieces. So Dame played himself.
The difference between arrogance and confidence is Dame and Jay Z. Jay Z is confident and Dame is arrogant. Confidence allows for a person to humble themselves and lean on others for advice. Arrogant individuals believe they have all the answers and they don’t.
Samantha King it’s sad because Dame could accomplish great things if he just humble himself. He has a lot of great ideas, but what’s a great idea to a person that’s arrogant.
Sport Fanatic Well said.
Y’all just suck Jay-Z off all the time.
He wasn't finessed by Jay Z Dame allowed his feelings to get in the way of a sound business decision
Jay did what Prince was speaking on for the longest..Own your Masters!!!
And Curtis Mayfield.
Except Prince didn't leave a will and now his family is fighter over the Masters.
"I don't care if this is your son's funeral" is the funniest thing I've ever heard
Dame Dash’s expression in that clip with the Def Jam Jacket was COMEDY 😂😂😂 if “hating from the sideline” was a person 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
“ Men don’t talk about other men”
-Dame Dash
David G Dame became the same chatty patty he spoke of
He did say this 🤷🏿♂️😂
But he’s not a talent like jay he was nothing without jay
Dipset made that label hot
@@DEADG6D True...but State Property lit the fuse
Damn was his own worst enemy I don't blame Jay
His arrogance is unbelievable
Dame has been a has been, nobody , post his Jay-Z departure. Getting away from him was J's best move, and his billionaire success proves that.
Can't even call it a finesse if the other person Is being stupid and making poor decisions. I can't even be mad at the way Jay came up, he's the definition of letting toxic people go in your life. I like the way you broke this down cause I always looked at Jay as the bad guy. In actuality just a man on a mission to get what is rightfully his.
Facts!!! I was thinking the same thing when I saw the title. Other than that this guy did a good job with this story.
Toxic ? This dude ruined a blk Dynasty cause his petty ego and hubris
None are good or bad guys. Both rich as hell and interacted with one another after all of the bull.
"Having a boss is like having hair. Who needs it?" 😂😂😂😂😂 perfect just perfect
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Never was a big jay z fan but have a new respect for him after watching this
“Too much flossing/
Too Much Sam Rothstein.”
Jay Z
Love Hate “I ain’t a bitch but I gotta divorce em, Hov had to get that shallow shit up off him”
Timeless lyrics
Craig Dempsey lost one easily Jays most underrated song
Lost one's my favorite jayz song
I hope we’re not forgetting paid in full as a classic movie produced by roc-a-fella
Produced by dame* ppl disagreed with dame making that movie he had to jump thru hurdles
Weinstein company produced that
Konz Pect classic movie not all a true story though. which is a shame
So well explained. I watched every second of this video. FIRE!!!! Timeless piece of content here.
Dame dash took one of the biggest L's of the century
guy is such a loser
Lol no Dame, Jay Z
But hes still got more money than you me an everyone commenting on this hating ass post ..
I respect Dame even though I feel he has wasted a lot of his talent 💯
Charles Herald
Did he really have talent or did he just leech talent off of Jay Z? 🤔
@@charlesherald6566 Dame couldnt even pay $2400 in court fees.
Made me laugh at 12:30 when you see him getting prepared for a haircut.. Quality. WTF
I get it now. Dame Dash was an emotional business man. Jay Z is an logical businessman. Success and numbers do not lie
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Damn man why a premiere i just want the video Ross?
Edit- finally you dropped it thank you
Please make a video on the founding of Bad Boy records
1st Trap Lore Ross video I ever watched. Been a fan since
I wish they’d just squash the beef. They just grew apart. I see both sides of it equally. I see how Dame feels betrayed but I also see how Jay Z was growing up seeing the big picture. Can’t be mad at either of them
Jay has business acumen Dame has a different vibe
Regardless of his actions, both Dame and Biggs will and should always have a bad taste in their mouths about the way in which jay went about dissolving the label without saying anything. Not excusing dames faults or saying jay is a snake but seeing that everyone says that they were friends I can understand how everyone could take this whole thing personally as well as having things change so much financially. While we celebrate Jay leaving with complete ownership, they left with only one master of the whole catalog
My thing is that nobody talks about is Dame was stealing company money out of Rocafella to fund his own personal projects that had nothing to do with Jay and Jay got wind of it through one of the reps at Rocafella, that's how all this started, so I dont see how Jay is wrong in any way period, but not only that, how could Jay be wrong for just wanting to leave somebody if he felt he was out growing a guy, dont he have that right to say I dont want to stay in this environment? So with the fact that Dame was stealing and yelling at everybody he came into contact with, because he felt he was the smartest and everybody was beneath him, that's how Dame thinks...
CD Williams you literally just agreed with me. They kept the masters because they are real hustlers who couldn’t walk away empty handed. But they were NOT happy with jay leaving the way he did. Don’t play yourself fam
Naw Dame was ALL THE WAY WRONG. You cant be out here spending reckless. Try that with WHITE corporate money. Yo ass getting fired
"Hold tight Damon Dash, cause he motivated me to earn cash" (c) Wiley
This was deep! Big Lessons learned here
you hate that he stepped to lee daniels for 2 millions? come on man that was awesome
That was Gangsta haha.
@@cdwilliams8066 Clown your a troll white guy or a self hating black do with no knowledge of self. You sound so foolish I pray you don't reproduce.
@Rotweiler Scholar I agree with you brother, don't waste ur energy on foolish trolls or lost black females like her.
@@dharm17 lmao
@Rotweiler Scholar If we are judging dame by average mediocre standards then yea at 29 million he doing more than the average person. If you hold him to a higher standard due to how long he has been in the game he got shafted with that 29 million dollar deal. Let's keep it real. I'll always root for my brothas to succeed but at the end of the day there was no growth with dame dash which is why he is in the position he is today. Still doing better than most people but not considering how long he been in the game and comparing him to his contemporaries. Jay put in the work and grew as a businessman. Keep it real and hold dame to a higher standard.
Trap do a birdman/cash money video
Jay z really move like a BOSS....thats some GOAT shit 💯 👌
"Successful for covering girls with more P's then R. Kelly!" He Funny AF!!!
That shit had me dead lolol
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We've all had a friend like Dash. We'd claim the opposite of our plans in order for him to stay away. Nah we not going out tonight....
Julian potatoe truth
Facts!
Julian potatoe 😂😂😂good one
Damn you sound fake AF why chill with someone if they aint your boy
Otis Reading exactly
Just spent hours watching Chicago gang videos. You're really funny!
Been waiting for this, so glad you took this idea and did it! Amazing coverage!
You don’t overstand how S.Carters and G-unit sneakers was poppin back in the day
Overstand?
SKYLIMIT
I remember when those sneaker deals came long, it helped a lot of artists make millions in revenue, from other than music
That R-Kelly line was a friggin' classic one. Almost spit my soda out as I wasn't ready for that.
What line?
Been waitin for this 💯💯💯 Trap never disappoints. Keep the content comin 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for enlightening us on this story. I’ve always wondered what happened between these two guys
At 15:51, "But can he move like this??!!" I spit out my coffee laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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i like how ross introduces financial terms like "stakeholders" then defines them with a picture or thru context.. your channel is truly educational bro but at the same time not dry like pbs or sumn
When i hear Dame Dash, i always think about that episode of The Dave Chappelle show ''Keeping it real goes wrong''
Hey hey now Sir! I happen to like Dash films ....State property was amazing😂😂 Jay was really intelligent in his business movements.
I’ll always be amazed at how few people appreciate dry as a desert humor
One of your best videos love it
Dame was riding on Jay's back for long enough.
Crazy, they became Partners when RocaFella was created, he kept running around saying Jay was his Artist! Smdh
Why I am just finding your channel? This both entertaining and educational. Dropping real hip hop history with business education. Thanks
More like how Dame Dash got 29 million finessed out of himself. . .
GG IVY what’s yo instagram 🤔
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Dame Dash kept it real with me. About publishing the dismantling of the label and ownership. Much respect to him not taking advantage of a new artist like other CEOs tried to do
he did though, kanye still dont own his own masters
@@scar6352 That's more Jay's fault
@@tylersharp3943 that is not jayz problem
If he was a good CEO we would have heard of you
@@scar6352 Roca fella still has Jay Z's Masters for Reasonable doubt- the only one in that catalog being sold now, thats' worth anything- Thats all Jay Z wanted! Dame and Biggs wouldn't let him buy it back!
There's something about JayZ that sets him apart. He's like a business man who happens to rap and enjoy HipHop culture...
Everyone else is a rapper who wants to play corporate and falls somewhere along the way... A well deserved billion Mr. Carter.
truly the goat whether people like to admit it or not
He’s not a business man, he’s a business.. Man!
He’s someone that y’all worship. He’s a GOD to y’all.
@@ianwilson4483 ok Ian.... Yay 🥴👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@ianwilson4483 🤡! Folks are giving props where it's due.