I got something even better... X-23:Dad, is this what you wanted? (holds out vanilla ice cream) Logan: Yeah, thanks... you wanna know why I always choose vanilla? X-23: Why? Logan: BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS REAL VANILLA! (mimics Cyclops)"Oh, Logan, calm down. It's just a couple of cosplayers." Cosplayers, my rear end. AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE TO KILL ANYONE TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS REAL OR NOT!!! (starts crying) Sabretooth, are you still there? Dakken: Dad he's been dead for year- Logan: SHUT YOUR MOUTH, SKRULL!
Wolverine is pissed at SJW for the jews not giving him the Oscar for Logan and giving it to some chick flick. I can imagine some of these actors being aware of the sjw infiltration and not all of them are about this.
i actually feel bad for the artist. imagine your dream is to draw marvel comics and you get put on this book...(18 pages of 2 impossibly gay people flirting badly and going to a club)..i mean you gotta do what you gotta do but i'm sure by page 9 he had a gun in his mouth.
Dialogue is one of the hardest parts about writing fiction. It has to be written real enough that it sounds like real speech, but not so realistic that it goes off on tangents and becomes tedious to read. It also has to be crafted to sound unique to each character, as a writer won't have the benefits of tone inflections to reveal a person's personality. This requires a lot of listening to actual real speech and adapting it to hit those points I just mentioned. SJWs don't care about the actual craft of writing.
SJW's can't write dialogue, because they're writing from an obvious bias perspective. Its like, "This is how I think gay characters speak. This is how I think black characters speak. This is how I think women speak." And the basis for the dialogue is all about them being gay, black, or a woman. I'm friends why a gay couple. And they don't speak like this. Being gay isn't their identity. If anything they just want to be treated like any average human being. And they speak like any average human being. Even worse, all the characters in these comics sound exactly the same. You read an X-men comic from the 90's. Wolverine has his own way of speaking to people that's individual to him. That gives him personality.
At this point, I'm far less concerned about our boi being doxxed or attacked by a rabid SJW than I am of him snapping from this madness. Dude survived actual combat but I swear this awful writing will break him.
Went to my old comic shop for the first time in years to pick up the Star Wars Annual. The owner still knew my name, which was really nice (comic people are nice!) 5 years ago, they had a whole wall dedicated to comics. Now it's maybe half a wall. The shop only carries a third of the Marvel titles. It has definitely embraced gaming far more than comics.
Kyra B all the ones i have seen converted to galf comics half dvds/games etc . That's what keeping them alive at this point definitely not modern comics lol
I was looking for the US avengers after the D&C review and couldn't find it at my usual shop. Then I realized that they had barely any marvel titles at all and somehow I don't think most of the regulars really noticed.
ICEMAN is the breakout hit of the year! Critics are showering it with praise! "You can't even get through the first panel without doing something stupid." "I couldn't write worse than this to make money." "This book has given me an aneurysm... please... someone call an ambulance..." And in today's obituaries...
This is actually how SJW's act. Their entire life is a huge show. They virtue signal everything. I work with a trans "woman" and this is how she acts. Stupid jokes, etc. I think that they laugh at each other's jokes so no one's feelings are hurt. I have some other people that I work with that are gender fluid, questioning, etc. They all act this way. I think that they are dead inside and don't know how real emotions work. Note that I know that not all gay people are SJW's, in fact I know a couple of gay people that avoid SJW's like their lives depend on it.
Yeesh... Why do they think being gay is such a thing. Like when you're gay it's not a big deal it is just who you are. Unless you're one of those people who have to flaunt how outrageous and different you are and that's just annoying
Attacking civilians because you dont like what their doing? And adding that context doesn't matter? In what world would a super hero editor let that slide? ... Oh wait.
I actually hoped it was a trap. I was like "FUCK. YES. THAT IS A GOOD PLOT LINE FUCKING DO IT." Imagine my disappointment when they decided the only victim in this story was the villain instead. Because women should never try to make special effects robots. Leave that to the men. PROGRESSIVE AF.
Ksss Sss ice-man hits the sack with his "guy friend" only to find out it's a chick. Ice-man: "wait you're a girl?! Huh....Guess I'm still into women then. Well, being gay was fun while it lasted."
"Hey, Marvel fans! Are you ready for some Superhero action? Check out the latest issue of Iceman! Where he goes to a....gay bar...and....yeah. That's pretty much it. Wait, what? Seriously, we're paying a whole team of people to come up with this shit? What the..."
The only bright side is that this disaster is easy to fix later, since they can just write it off as teen Jean having manipulated Bobby’s mind. Maybe even have adult Jean notice and fix it when she gets back.
Or they can have someone who actually cares about the X-men and Iceman write a GOOD story about a hero who has to save the day as well as explore his own sexuality as well as coming to terms with it at the same time. It shouldn't be the main story but a side story in between arcs. Him being gay shouldn't be the focal point of the story, it should be part of it but give the fans an adventure story or something. And just because he's gay doesn't mean you have to change his character (just his sexuality), he can still be the joking Bobby Drake the fans know and love. And turning him straight again is just a cop out and all around lazy writing. Make Bobby straight again wouldn't magically make the book great. I don't if Iceman is gay, straight, or bi as long as I get a good story out of it.
Iceman isn't gay. Jean was just pissed he said he didn't find her attractive or assumed any man who doesn't find her attractive must be gay and Imprinted it on him. Go back and look at Battle of the Atom if you can stand it. Bobby met his much much older self and his older self said "Grow a beard, chicks dig the beard." This far distant version of Bobby wasn't gay so what the hell is going on here? BTW Zack for panic attacks breathing techniques work wonders.
I used to read the Bendis! blog on tumblr. Bendis was under some pressure to make Ultimate Gwen Stacey and Mary Jane Watson lovers. At least he said he was, this was around the time Ultimate Spider-Man #200 was realesed. His reason for not remaking Mj into a LGBT character was "You can tell She's not, dates boys." He also he said prior to converting Iceman into a gay character "Some of you are convincing me Iceman's sexuallity might be Fluid, to be continued." So I know via Bedis' own words he was getting pressure on tumblr to convert straight characters into LGBT ones.
What did Luke-Warm-Man do this time? Is he not allowed to play the Peter Pan in the lockal theatre? Did he mis out on the last Barbara Streisand tickets? Or was he denied entrance into the Blue Oister-club because he was too gay for the gayest gaybar ever??
I'm cringing listening to this terrible dialogue, I'm cringing at you reading it and putting it into words, I'm cringing at the character acting this way, I'm cringing at the Author writing this, I'm cringing at Marvel for mandating this, this is what, 5th hand embarrassment at this point? and I'm just hoping Bendis is put on this book and he throws Iceman into the sun.
I'd like to see a comic where the original heroes figure out that things are not how they are supposed to be , and that they are up against an adversary with reality warping powers that conspired to replace them and have to fight to return. Tony would be kicking himself that he believed a 14 year old would be able to supersede him and that he should have known something wasn't right
I used to enjoy hate-watching these Marvels, having a laugh. But this has become almost too depressing to watch. Imagine a teenager reading the Thomas/Adams run of Xmen being thrust forward in time to see what's become of his Iceman. How could Marvel do this?
"Make me laugh. A deep belly laugh." "The company you write for is going belly up!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! "All the employees at Marvel will soon be selling pencils and strong on a street corner!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
So, if Mini-Me Jean Grey used her powers to turn Iceman gay, maybe the real Jean Grey can fix him. She's returning from the dead soon after all. Bobby can tell her he's gay, and she can say "Bobby, I've known you for 50 years. No, you're not gay" and poof. The real Bobby Drake returns. Give me the Eisner now.
My life's really busy at the moment. I work a salary job and I spend tons of time working. But this just straight bummed me out. When I was a kid in the 90's, Iceman was my favourite character. Hell, he was one of my favourites until my first exodus from comics in 2002, when I sold my collection (looking back. NO REGRETS). I always thought he was cool. I always hated how it felt like his potential was wasted. And man. This just makes me sad. He's a purse puppy homosexual (for really no reason beyond trying to virtue signal), his character is a complete bastardization. He'll never be Iceman again. Iceman is dead. It's just over. The industry deserves to die man, I hate to say it, but let the fucker burn. Iceman, Cyclops, Jean Grey were in my top 5 Marvel characters period. Look at what they've DONE to them, and even since the early 2000's. I left comics because of the Grant Morrison run, I can back only because I moved to a community that had no tabletop, and only had a comic shop. I got back into it, and flew away by 2009 because it was just fucking awful. It was awful TEN YEARS AGO. Looking at it now. I genuinely wish for it to die. I want it gone. I hear what happens from friends who are still into it (if only barely, some I think its masochism). It's everything it shouldn't be. And there is no fixing it. Even if it did turn around, the stink of the last 20 years will never go away, and that's being generous given how the 90's went too. It doesn't deserve the meagre community it has left. I am just sad. There were so many characters and stories I loved from Marvel. Iceman, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Peter Parker, Mary-Jane, Eddie Brock, Magneto, MISTER SINISTER (a classy gentlemen if there ever was one), Mystique, Nightcrawler, and the list goes on... And it's all just fucking garbage now. Let it burn, man. Let that fucking thing burn. :(
The Big Red Bear don't give up man. They have to fall to learn how to crawl and walk straight again. I have a story that would bring real comic stories great again but I thought It would be too old school. I now see that my story and universe is needed. I hope I can bring it out to real comic fans. This is truly sad though.
4:00 PAUSE. Wait. What. What. What. WHAT. FUCK. I know Marvel doesn't know any black people but do they not know any gay men either?! GAY MEN GO TO THE GYM. GAY MEN WORK OUT AND CHECK EACH OTHER OUT AT THE GYM. I KNOW. I USED TO LIFT WITH THEM. MARVEL WHAT ARE YOU DOIIIIIIIING?!
My best friend is gay and, while he does not work out (the guy is a stick), he does not act anything like what Marvel is portraying and neither does his boyfriend. Most gay people act just like everyone else. Writing them like it is an episode of Will & Grace is regressing comics, not progressing them.
12:13 it got worse. HOW COULD IT GET WORSE? Also what the fuck is with SJW Marvel and sitting on top of landmarks? Is that the only way they can remind readers where they are? Or is it to be like "LOOK AT US WE'RE SO SPECIAL YOUR RULES DON'T APPLY TO US"
14:53 omg I'm screaming. It's so bad. I'm laughing and screaming at the same time. I take it back. It's not that they've never met gay guys, they've never met anyone. Ever. This was written by a recluse who is guessing what people interact like based on really bad tv sitcoms making fun of idiots like them. It's like they think they're in on the joke and they don't realize, THEY ARE THE JOKE.
16:19 I swear to fuck I'll stop updating and pausing and just respond but first. BUT FIRST -- I grew up near Providencetown on the end of Cape Cod. It is bar none, the gayest place in America. I was there in 2003 when MA legalized Gay Marriage, and it became 90% gayer. I'm bi, I have lesbian, trans, GQ, Intersex, ETC. ETC. friends. I am crying tears of laughter. I want to get this issue to watch their heads explode. Oh wait, I know one person who might think this is legitimately funny good, but their taste on comics has been rejected forever. They also enjoyed Big Mouth on Netflix. JUST SAYING. They're also Canadian. So. *CANADA*
Yup I've come to the decision it's not that they don't know minorities. They don't know anyone. They think labels = a person, so they've never actually gotten to know real people as real people. That line about "LA fake" I HAVE ACTUALLY heard in the "biz" (movies/film/theater fuck me) so ehhhhhhh. But it's also pretty telling about the writer. REALLY REALLY TELLING. And this entire "story" in as much as you can pretend it's a story at all (it's not) would have been better if they skipped the Iceman thing, did a soft reboot and "Next Generations" and started fresh with an all new character set of XMen. IT WOULD STILL SUCK BALLS. But at least it wouldn't be fucking insulting. Then again, these are the same twats that thought Ghostbusters was better with women doing the same canon over so fuck 'em.
I swear to god, I can find you better written Iceman gay ff. HELL GIVE ME TWO SECONDS --> www.fanfiction.net/s/12223397/1/X-Men-Drabbles Granted that's still not... good :| But at least they didn't have to make up a shitty fucking "LET'S SKIP MOURNING OUR FRIEND TEEHEE LIFE GOES ON" fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck. I am actually angrier than Zach.
See, THIS is why someone in superchat needs to purchase this man a blender. Give him a place to pour that rage into. Namely, in this instance, an Icy Marvel Milkshake. Then pour that shit in the toilet. After gem comic reviews where issues have been soaked and flushed, pitched into a parking lot or straight up thrown in the trash, the next logical step is to go whole hog with ice cream, milk, a blender and a dumpster fire comic and make a Marvel Milkshake. Probably an Aww Nuts or Captain Marvel Milkshake, depending on if it's Squirrel Girl or Carl Manvers that finally breaks D&C.
I only started watching your channel a couple years ago so I had missed a lot of your reviews. The algorithm has been suggesting your old stuff to me the last few weeks. Watching these page by page reviews explains so many things. You've saved me from reading so many series!
how do you accidentally build a functioning sentinel? did she build it to work on purpose? why hasn't someone who can build a sentinel in her back yard been snatched up by a tech company?
"Champions, fight things...!? We need to sort out-..." *RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Remember when Bane confronted Bruce Wayne in his mansion before humbling him and taking over Gotham City? Screw that! I wanna read about Bobby Drake not being able to feel human emotions at a Sam's Club gay bar!
Start a petition to make iceman straight again. Then have his story be actually good by having him take on mr sinister or an actual villain by himself... right now the only problem he has is not getting enough personal attention... personal attention his his antagonist.
So instead of saving people, or helping to mentor the next generation of mutants, Iceman randomly vandalizes a private citizen's property. A citizen who is minding their own business, not breaking any laws, or doing anything immoral. Is this a What If mutants were authoritarian villains comic?
I think the reason these writers stop having heroes doing heroic things and start doing regular people things is because the writers don't know how to make these character act like regular people. It's not like the old days when Peter Parker had real life problems and over came it making the story more interesting. It's more Peter Parker has a problem and he's going to sit on his couch and wait for his girlfriend to solve it for him. Either the writers are a group of sociopaths, or they just never related to the character in the first place, because they didn't actually like the character to begin with. This is what makes me think this group of new writers aren't actually fans of comics, they just have a message they want to share and because comics have become a popular venue, they're using that venue to broadcast their message. All of this at the cost of the character, the story, and eventually the readers. It's sad to see this happening to one of my favorite heroes. Can you imagine if someone rewrote Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker the same way they've written Bobby Drake?
After this disaster of a comic, Our Boi Zack needs a safe space full of comics that accurately depict various theaters of war and a Fourth World Omnibus.
My God, what have they done to Iceman? This just makes me want to watch the part where Iceman gets his head cut off by a sentinel in the movie "Days of Future Past". I could just watch that over and over again.
Hang in there marine! Your reading through that steaming pile of poo saves us civilians from wasting our time and money on sjw marvel. We thank you and salute you!
Being "fashionably late" is an attitude that drives me nuts, I was raised on the idea that being late for no valid reason is very rude. The implication being that you are wasting everyone else's time and a failure on you for not planning accordingly.
SEVERAL THINGS!!! First, they turned the Champions skyscraper into a gym? Really? Wow. Second, that building was notorious for it's countless defects. Wouldn't Angel be concerned for everyone's safety??? Third, didn't Angel have it torn down? I seem to recall him mentioning that in another story some time ago. Fourth, with the possible exception of Hercules, I'm positive every member of the Champions has died at some point, and they never got together any of those times, so why is dumb Black Widow so special? Fifth, with the exception of Iceman and Angel, I thought the Champions mostly hated each other and their time as a team, so why would they ever have any reunion for any reason? Sixth, why Is every character in SJW Marvel a super genius? The woman was an aspiring fucking actress what the hell would she know about advanced robotics to allow her to build a Sentinel? Seventh, if the woman is so rich that she can afford parts to build a full sized fucking Sentinel, why not just hire an agent and get roles that way? Fuck me, I could go on and on! This is so damn stupid!
Zach what are your thoughts on Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men? Would love to see a video covering their show. I looked at the last previews book for the new Marvel books and I didn't recognize any of the creators. Where are the familiar names? Where is the draw to any of these books? There is a reason Marvel keeps re-using Jim Lee art for items, they can't find any decent artists anymore.
This couldn't have been written any other way. I hate to be blunt, but it's pretty obvious when SJW's are pushing a message, because the message is always more important than facts. This issue cheapened all these heroes; Natasha was a friend, a companion, basically a war buddy. But instead of a memorial for a fallen comrade, it's more important to show how GREAT being gay is, how supportive everyone else should be, and why it's more important to get what you want in the moment rather than respect someone who just died. SJW's are very selfish... it's all about them, and that's how Bobby is now. The tragedy for me is that Iceman was always one of my favorite heroes. He, Colossus, Nightcrawler, and Havok were my favorite X-Men, and now he's completely unreadable.
Wow... "It's wack." I'm trying to remember the last time I heard someone use that term. I think it was the Josie and Pussy Cats movie. Geeze... that was 2001... what the hell. Just got to the "Drinking and mourning canceled." part. Okay. I'm mad. Why is this a comic? I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but why are they doing it with Iceman? Why? If Black Widow's death is this unimportant then WHY WAS IT USED AS A PLOT POINT IN THE FREAKING STORY! GAAAAAA!
Brilliant! Brilliant! This is one of the funniest videos ever. You're frustration is felt my brother. Love, love, love the feet rip! It's so bad, I'm not using my hands, I'm using my feet!!!
This is a common problem with SJW characters. It's the confusion between the mundane with actual character development. SJW logic is that the only way to relate to a character is if that character does this completely mundane thing. So behold. Look in awe as She Hulk watches cooking shows on youtube. America goes to college... then on a road trip. Iceman is triggered by a gym. Don't you feel soooo connected to these characters? They're doing mundane things like you do! That's how connections to people are made, right? They're just like you. We're all superheros! It's so stupid. I don't know what it's like to be a soldier or a fireman or whatever. But when you read a well written story, like say "All Quiet on the Western Front" you take a step closer to what it is to be in that character's shoes. While you'll never fully get there, you'll still feel just a tad bit of that weight and it's as said in To Kill a Mockingbird "One time [Atticus] said you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them. For me, just standing on the Radley porch was enough." And it is enough for that empathy. At least for normal people who are capable of feeling empathy. But for whatever reason SJWs don't get that. It's like they don't understand empathy. Maybe they don't feel it at all. That's why surface traits are so important to them. They're moral bullies. They want to be bullies and push people around, but they are told that's wrong (they don't feel it's wrong) so they find someone who is morally objectionable and bully them. That way they can be a bully and be moral! Best of both worlds. PS: Would anyone like me to make a youtube video of me shooting this comic out of a cannon?
So Ice Man's big gripe is that nobody seems to care about Black Widow's death and their old base is a gym. And yet he decides to quit being sad about the death of his "friend" because a complete stranger asked him out? This is absolutely terrible. People are so quick to defend the decision of Ice Man being gay, which isn't terrible by itself. But if THIS story is the trade-off for Bobby coming to terms with being a homosexual... THIS story being made to empathize with people struggling with their sexuality! THIS is their idea of a superhero to represent the "marginalized" gay community! Then Ice Man is better off returning to the proverbial closet until he gets his act together! Because for all the struggles and hardships both Ice Man and the gay community have endured. They both deserve WAY better than this shitty excuse for a story!
Making Ice Man gay IS terrible. 35 years of established heterosexuality, destroyed by one garbage "You're gay Bobby!" If they cared so much about "representation", then why not create their own gay character? Why change something like that? Or better yet, why not push the already gay characters Marvel has? Like Hulkling or Wiccan?
...Or Northstar an ACTUAL homosexual X-men character. Or hell even Richter and Shatterstar, a homosexual couple(last I checked anyways). SJW Marvel has plenty of characters that actually are gay, that they refuse to do anything with! Hell, Prodigy(former X-men turned super genius) actually is both a POC AND bisexual. Yet the most they've done with him is make him America Chavez' techie sidekick! SJW Marvel not only lacks the foresight to use the type of characters they claim are NOT being represented(and are already available to use), but they lack the narrative skills to give these characters the quality stories they deserve!
Couldn't make it through the video, had to shut it off after 12 minutes. After Hercules said his loin cloth was vibrating with vigor. You are a real trooper for sludging through and reading this crap man! Keep fighting the good fight man.
Ok, I have a question. Why do the normal people in these comics take whatever abuse the "Heros" choose to mete out to them? In this book you just went through why wasn't she on the phone to a lawyer to sue Iceman for damages to her property? She was building an imitation sentinel, and made it clear to him it wasn't a real one, but he destroyed it anyway, because "bad day." Any halfway decent lawyer would be on that like white on rice and make her several thousand dollars at least. That kid who got kidnapped by Ms Marvel's goon squad should have been on the phone to the lawyer as soon as he got home. Riches await! I would seriously make an attorney villain who goes around suing superheros for damages to private and public property, making bank off each lawsuit.
well, he wouldn't be in a moral world. But this is a world where superheros proclaim themselves to be all that is good in the universe. I still think it would be an ok story. Not that I have any interest in comics anymore.@@attackerangel2951
THIS IS WHY WOLVERINE KILLED THE X-MEN
Afterwards, Old man Logan never ate popsicles ever again. Hawkeye learned that the hard way.
Ryan Leatigaga This comment killed me 😂
Logan's favorite flavor of ice cream is vanilla. It's the one true flavor.
I got something even better...
X-23:Dad, is this what you wanted? (holds out vanilla ice cream)
Logan: Yeah, thanks... you wanna know why I always choose vanilla?
X-23: Why?
Logan: BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS REAL VANILLA! (mimics Cyclops)"Oh, Logan, calm down. It's just a couple of cosplayers." Cosplayers, my rear end. AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE TO KILL ANYONE TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS REAL OR NOT!!! (starts crying) Sabretooth, are you still there?
Dakken: Dad he's been dead for year-
Logan: SHUT YOUR MOUTH, SKRULL!
Wolverine is pissed at SJW for the jews not giving him the Oscar for Logan and giving it to some chick flick. I can imagine some of these actors being aware of the sjw infiltration and not all of them are about this.
i actually feel bad for the artist. imagine your dream is to draw marvel comics and you get put on this book...(18 pages of 2 impossibly gay people flirting badly and going to a club)..i mean you gotta do what you gotta do but i'm sure by page 9 he had a gun in his mouth.
Why is dialogue so hard for writers?
It's not hard for writers. The problem here is that the ones in charge of the dialogue have clearly never had a normal human conversation.
Dialogue is one of the hardest parts about writing fiction. It has to be written real enough that it sounds like real speech, but not so realistic that it goes off on tangents and becomes tedious to read. It also has to be crafted to sound unique to each character, as a writer won't have the benefits of tone inflections to reveal a person's personality. This requires a lot of listening to actual real speech and adapting it to hit those points I just mentioned.
SJWs don't care about the actual craft of writing.
Because they're forcing something that is out of character for the character.
SJW's can't write dialogue, because they're writing from an obvious bias perspective. Its like, "This is how I think gay characters speak. This is how I think black characters speak. This is how I think women speak." And the basis for the dialogue is all about them being gay, black, or a woman. I'm friends why a gay couple. And they don't speak like this. Being gay isn't their identity. If anything they just want to be treated like any average human being. And they speak like any average human being. Even worse, all the characters in these comics sound exactly the same. You read an X-men comic from the 90's. Wolverine has his own way of speaking to people that's individual to him. That gives him personality.
Me: "Oh no... another Iceman update." *fears for Zach's mental health*
At this point, I'm far less concerned about our boi being doxxed or attacked by a rabid SJW than I am of him snapping from this madness. Dude survived actual combat but I swear this awful writing will break him.
This comic is building a serious case for normal people hating mutants.
Went to my old comic shop for the first time in years to pick up the Star Wars Annual. The owner still knew my name, which was really nice (comic people are nice!) 5 years ago, they had a whole wall dedicated to comics. Now it's maybe half a wall. The shop only carries a third of the Marvel titles. It has definitely embraced gaming far more than comics.
Kyra B all the ones i have seen converted to galf comics half dvds/games etc . That's what keeping them alive at this point definitely not modern comics lol
They need the money
Floofie kun dc will save the industry
I was looking for the US avengers after the D&C review and couldn't find it at my usual shop. Then I realized that they had barely any marvel titles at all and somehow I don't think most of the regulars really noticed.
ICEMAN is the breakout hit of the year! Critics are showering it with praise!
"You can't even get through the first panel without doing something stupid."
"I couldn't write worse than this to make money."
"This book has given me an aneurysm... please... someone call an ambulance..."
And in today's obituaries...
This is actually how SJW's act. Their entire life is a huge show. They virtue signal everything. I work with a trans "woman" and this is how she acts. Stupid jokes, etc. I think that they laugh at each other's jokes so no one's feelings are hurt. I have some other people that I work with that are gender fluid, questioning, etc. They all act this way. I think that they are dead inside and don't know how real emotions work.
Note that I know that not all gay people are SJW's, in fact I know a couple of gay people that avoid SJW's like their lives depend on it.
I literally audibly groaned when he said "canoodaling"
Kal Sizzle I had the same reaction when he "humble bragged".
Yeesh...
Why do they think being gay is such a thing. Like when you're gay it's not a big deal it is just who you are. Unless you're one of those people who have to flaunt how outrageous and different you are and that's just annoying
They shame the original Champions. Loved that book when I was kid.
YES, YES! Let the hate flow. Soon your anger will consume you, and you shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
Now come to the darkside, we have cookies!
Attacking civilians because you dont like what their doing? And adding that context doesn't matter?
In what world would a super hero editor let that slide?
... Oh wait.
This Bobby Drake has to be a skrull impostor that gained bad intel on gays.
Hahahaha....Iceman texted that he was being asked on a date and he didn't know if it was a,"trap." Well, of course it is silllyyy. Annnddd jazzhands!
I actually hoped it was a trap. I was like "FUCK. YES. THAT IS A GOOD PLOT LINE FUCKING DO IT." Imagine my disappointment when they decided the only victim in this story was the villain instead. Because women should never try to make special effects robots. Leave that to the men. PROGRESSIVE AF.
Ksss Sss ice-man hits the sack with his "guy friend" only to find out it's a chick.
Ice-man: "wait you're a girl?! Huh....Guess I'm still into women then. Well, being gay was fun while it lasted."
He gets a text from Admiral Ackbar: "It's a trap!"
Chris Collins Admiral Ackbar. Such a trap- ophobe.
You're stunning and brave reading this hot garbage, D&C. Stunning. And. Brave.
But he should get a community strike for showing that foot.
A regular Plumbus wabbalabbadubdub
Isaac C BEST. COMMENT. EVER.
A regular Plumbus I
myles mills wabbalabbadubdub
Iceman makes me sad that I chose to go into accounting.
Yeah they need a Christian Wolff-level accountant to shoot the shit out of every single employee there
Kyra B, at least YOU, as an accountant, unlike Marvel, appreciates the value of a dollar.
"Hey, Marvel fans! Are you ready for some Superhero action? Check out the latest issue of Iceman! Where he goes to a....gay bar...and....yeah. That's pretty much it. Wait, what? Seriously, we're paying a whole team of people to come up with this shit? What the..."
Make Bobby Drake great again
-straight again
The only bright side is that this disaster is easy to fix later, since they can just write it off as teen Jean having manipulated Bobby’s mind. Maybe even have adult Jean notice and fix it when she gets back.
Or they can have someone who actually cares about the X-men and Iceman write a GOOD story about a hero who has to save the day as well as explore his own sexuality as well as coming to terms with it at the same time. It shouldn't be the main story but a side story in between arcs. Him being gay shouldn't be the focal point of the story, it should be part of it but give the fans an adventure story or something. And just because he's gay doesn't mean you have to change his character (just his sexuality), he can still be the joking Bobby Drake the fans know and love. And turning him straight again is just a cop out and all around lazy writing. Make Bobby straight again wouldn't magically make the book great. I don't if Iceman is gay, straight, or bi as long as I get a good story out of it.
I’m just waiting for him to wake up from the mind fuck and realize what he’s been doing. 🤣 Oh, he’ll be (rightfully) horrified.
You know you've screwed up when you piss off someone as mellow as Diversity and Comics.
*Opens Video* then *Slowly backs away*
You could say this review was ice cold.
Very ironic cause the comic seems to be a steaming hot pile of shit!
The marvel universe has been invaded by Skrulls. Again. I now wait patiently for the inevitable Secret Invasion 2.
Iceman isn't gay. Jean was just pissed he said he didn't find her attractive or assumed any man who doesn't find her attractive must be gay and Imprinted it on him. Go back and look at Battle of the Atom if you can stand it. Bobby met his much much older self and his older self said "Grow a beard, chicks dig the beard." This far distant version of Bobby wasn't gay so what the hell is going on here? BTW Zack for panic attacks breathing techniques work wonders.
Enigma7331 here's hoping now that adult Jean is coming back, she'll slap her younger self and change Bobby back...
Remember when the gay agenda was just a meme, a joke people told at the expense of extreme conservatives and traditionalists
I used to read the Bendis! blog on tumblr. Bendis was under some pressure to make Ultimate Gwen Stacey and Mary Jane Watson lovers. At least he said he was, this was around the time Ultimate Spider-Man #200 was realesed. His reason for not remaking Mj into a LGBT character was "You can tell She's not, dates boys." He also he said prior to converting Iceman into a gay character "Some of you are convincing me Iceman's sexuallity might be Fluid, to be continued." So I know via Bedis' own words he was getting pressure on tumblr to convert straight characters into LGBT ones.
I subscribe to Jean Grey being the one to twist bobby's brain.
Thank God for Sentinels. I hope it wins.
"it"? Did you just assume the Sentinel's gender!? Stop the oppression!! *foams at the mouth*
"Did I even get to the staple? Arrgghh."
LOL
Hydra has infiltrated Marvel Comics and is attempting to destroy it from the inside.
What did Luke-Warm-Man do this time? Is he not allowed to play the Peter Pan in the lockal theatre? Did he mis out on the last Barbara Streisand tickets? Or was he denied entrance into the Blue Oister-club because he was too gay for the gayest gaybar ever??
*Meep and cough*
*[coughs in Meepish]*
Please Iceman go to Fire Island and melt.
All these covers are doing is reminding me that Marvel used to NOT SUCK ! Then I open the book and oh yeah , Marvel sucks .
I have the Champions run in trade and it wasn't really that good. Yet still leaps and bounds better than today's garbage.
It's like the Mandela Effect.
"Oh my God... I have mysterious memories of an alternate universe where Marvel was *Good* ..."
Eric Breen that's how they get you, just like hoy chicks the outside is a good time but on the inside it's retarded.
Our boi Zack had a cringe-attack!
He's here to let you know that the cringe is back.
I'm sorry. I was giggling at your pain the whole time.
I'm cringing listening to this terrible dialogue, I'm cringing at you reading it and putting it into words, I'm cringing at the character acting this way, I'm cringing at the Author writing this, I'm cringing at Marvel for mandating this, this is what, 5th hand embarrassment at this point? and I'm just hoping Bendis is put on this book and he throws Iceman into the sun.
Marie Teach honestly, I groaned in agony hearing some of this dialog!
If you replaced every piece of dialogue with
"hey I like dick"
or "didn't you know, I like dick"
this comic would be pretty much the same
They should rename him the "I like dick man" because that seems to be his most important trait right now
I'd like to see a comic where the original heroes figure out that things are not how they are supposed to be , and that they are up against an adversary with reality warping powers that conspired to replace them and have to fight to return. Tony would be kicking himself that he believed a 14 year old would be able to supersede him and that he should have known something wasn't right
SO....is Iceman in a gay chapter of Antifa?
This might be the very worst comic ever published.
"We have to go back!"
I used to enjoy hate-watching these Marvels, having a laugh. But this has become almost too depressing to watch. Imagine a teenager reading the Thomas/Adams run of Xmen being thrust forward in time to see what's become of his Iceman. How could Marvel do this?
that title goes to America Chavez issues
SJW Marvel: Hold my cocaine.
"Make me laugh. A deep belly laugh."
"The company you write for is going belly up!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
"All the employees at Marvel will soon be selling pencils and strong on a street corner!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
(Insane Joker Cackle)
So, if Mini-Me Jean Grey used her powers to turn Iceman gay, maybe the real Jean Grey can fix him. She's returning from the dead soon after all. Bobby can tell her he's gay, and she can say "Bobby, I've known you for 50 years. No, you're not gay" and poof. The real Bobby Drake returns. Give me the Eisner now.
This is why we need sentinels
Remember when they fought villians in a Marvel Comic? Now it's "Marvel, the dating Comic!"
Plot twist: Iceman makes a dagger out of his own frozen turd and renames himself SHITSTABBER.
Damn Zack almost turned into the REAL Sunny D Hulk from this book.
My life's really busy at the moment. I work a salary job and I spend tons of time working.
But this just straight bummed me out. When I was a kid in the 90's, Iceman was my favourite character. Hell, he was one of my favourites until my first exodus from comics in 2002, when I sold my collection (looking back. NO REGRETS).
I always thought he was cool. I always hated how it felt like his potential was wasted.
And man. This just makes me sad. He's a purse puppy homosexual (for really no reason beyond trying to virtue signal), his character is a complete bastardization. He'll never be Iceman again. Iceman is dead. It's just over. The industry deserves to die man, I hate to say it, but let the fucker burn.
Iceman, Cyclops, Jean Grey were in my top 5 Marvel characters period. Look at what they've DONE to them, and even since the early 2000's. I left comics because of the Grant Morrison run, I can back only because I moved to a community that had no tabletop, and only had a comic shop. I got back into it, and flew away by 2009 because it was just fucking awful. It was awful TEN YEARS AGO.
Looking at it now. I genuinely wish for it to die. I want it gone. I hear what happens from friends who are still into it (if only barely, some I think its masochism). It's everything it shouldn't be. And there is no fixing it. Even if it did turn around, the stink of the last 20 years will never go away, and that's being generous given how the 90's went too. It doesn't deserve the meagre community it has left.
I am just sad. There were so many characters and stories I loved from Marvel. Iceman, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Peter Parker, Mary-Jane, Eddie Brock, Magneto, MISTER SINISTER (a classy gentlemen if there ever was one), Mystique, Nightcrawler, and the list goes on...
And it's all just fucking garbage now. Let it burn, man. Let that fucking thing burn. :(
The Big Red Bear don't give up man. They have to fall to learn how to crawl and walk straight again. I have a story that would bring real comic stories great again but I thought It would be too old school. I now see that my story and universe is needed. I hope I can bring it out to real comic fans. This is truly sad though.
ionicblood666 I hope you are successful and watch for me in a couple years cause I'll be publishing comics for image soon
4:00 PAUSE. Wait. What. What. What. WHAT. FUCK. I know Marvel doesn't know any black people but do they not know any gay men either?! GAY MEN GO TO THE GYM. GAY MEN WORK OUT AND CHECK EACH OTHER OUT AT THE GYM. I KNOW. I USED TO LIFT WITH THEM. MARVEL WHAT ARE YOU DOIIIIIIIING?!
My best friend is gay and, while he does not work out (the guy is a stick), he does not act anything like what Marvel is portraying and neither does his boyfriend. Most gay people act just like everyone else. Writing them like it is an episode of Will & Grace is regressing comics, not progressing them.
12:13 it got worse. HOW COULD IT GET WORSE? Also what the fuck is with SJW Marvel and sitting on top of landmarks? Is that the only way they can remind readers where they are? Or is it to be like "LOOK AT US WE'RE SO SPECIAL YOUR RULES DON'T APPLY TO US"
14:53 omg I'm screaming. It's so bad. I'm laughing and screaming at the same time. I take it back. It's not that they've never met gay guys, they've never met anyone. Ever. This was written by a recluse who is guessing what people interact like based on really bad tv sitcoms making fun of idiots like them. It's like they think they're in on the joke and they don't realize, THEY ARE THE JOKE.
16:19 I swear to fuck I'll stop updating and pausing and just respond but first. BUT FIRST -- I grew up near Providencetown on the end of Cape Cod. It is bar none, the gayest place in America. I was there in 2003 when MA legalized Gay Marriage, and it became 90% gayer. I'm bi, I have lesbian, trans, GQ, Intersex, ETC. ETC. friends. I am crying tears of laughter. I want to get this issue to watch their heads explode. Oh wait, I know one person who might think this is legitimately funny good, but their taste on comics has been rejected forever. They also enjoyed Big Mouth on Netflix. JUST SAYING. They're also Canadian. So. *CANADA*
Yup I've come to the decision it's not that they don't know minorities. They don't know anyone. They think labels = a person, so they've never actually gotten to know real people as real people. That line about "LA fake" I HAVE ACTUALLY heard in the "biz" (movies/film/theater fuck me) so ehhhhhhh. But it's also pretty telling about the writer. REALLY REALLY TELLING.
And this entire "story" in as much as you can pretend it's a story at all (it's not) would have been better if they skipped the Iceman thing, did a soft reboot and "Next Generations" and started fresh with an all new character set of XMen. IT WOULD STILL SUCK BALLS. But at least it wouldn't be fucking insulting. Then again, these are the same twats that thought Ghostbusters was better with women doing the same canon over so fuck 'em.
Is this somebody's gay fanfiction? I swear its a carbon copy of a million other gay fics... N-not that I'd know anything about that or anything...
It seriously reads like any other fujo-bait gay fantasy off of Fanfiction(.)net.
Evilmon2 fujoshits; when will they learn.
I swear to god, I can find you better written Iceman gay ff. HELL GIVE ME TWO SECONDS -->
www.fanfiction.net/s/12223397/1/X-Men-Drabbles Granted that's still not... good :| But at least they didn't have to make up a shitty fucking "LET'S SKIP MOURNING OUR FRIEND TEEHEE LIFE GOES ON" fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck.
I am actually angrier than Zach.
CC Silverwolf well I guess most of gay fanfics don't make their protagonists psycho. Though some do believe me.
True enough but that's the reason OC's are so distrusted.
See, THIS is why someone in superchat needs to purchase this man a blender. Give him a place to pour that rage into. Namely, in this instance, an Icy Marvel Milkshake.
Then pour that shit in the toilet. After gem comic reviews where issues have been soaked and flushed, pitched into a parking lot or straight up thrown in the trash, the next logical step is to go whole hog with ice cream, milk, a blender and a dumpster fire comic and make a Marvel Milkshake. Probably an Aww Nuts or Captain Marvel Milkshake, depending on if it's Squirrel Girl or Carl Manvers that finally breaks D&C.
Sociopaths written by sociopaths for sociopaths.
The theme song for this comic should be *'electric six gay bar'*
Lol that rage quit at the end was priceless!
I wish I had the stomach to read these books, just to be even more sure that Marvel has lost it's way, but even that is painful to me these days.
So the moral of the story is...Being gay is a lot tougher than kicking ass and saving the world...Got it, Marvel
"Urrrg! I've gotta take a break between every dialogue balloon! Am I even at the staple?" And there speaks 100,000 ex Marvel readers.
It's hard to tell the exact moment when this broke you.... probably happened a few times
This comic in unbelievably and impossibly bad...how is this suppose to be a soft reboot?!
perhaps a "flaccid reboot" would be more accurate...
I only started watching your channel a couple years ago so I had missed a lot of your reviews. The algorithm has been suggesting your old stuff to me the last few weeks. Watching these page by page reviews explains so many things. You've saved me from reading so many series!
Ghost Rider into Gayest Rider now? .....thanks SJWM.
gay rider. his motorcycle is a power bottom.
Don't give them ideas. XD
how do you accidentally build a functioning sentinel? did she build it to work on purpose? why hasn't someone who can build a sentinel in her back yard been snatched up by a tech company?
"Champions, fight things...!? We need to sort out-..."
*RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
How Disney are not putting an end to this is beyond me. It would be understandable if the sales for these books were good but they are not.
Zak is a brave soul to read this shit.
Remember when Bane confronted Bruce Wayne in his mansion before humbling him and taking over Gotham City? Screw that! I wanna read about Bobby Drake not being able to feel human emotions at a Sam's Club gay bar!
Start a petition to make iceman straight again. Then have his story be actually good by having him take on mr sinister or an actual villain by himself... right now the only problem he has is not getting enough personal attention... personal attention his his antagonist.
I used to watch Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends when I was a kid. This actually hurts me seeing Bobby being portrayed like this.
ALL the SJWs heroes are villains because villains always think they're right.
So instead of saving people, or helping to mentor the next generation of mutants, Iceman randomly vandalizes a private citizen's property. A citizen who is minding their own business, not breaking any laws, or doing anything immoral. Is this a What If mutants were authoritarian villains comic?
3:04 You dare insult our resident Garbage Human Lord Sargon by comparing him to this, this filth?! For shame D&C, for shame. XD
I think the reason these writers stop having heroes doing heroic things and start doing regular people things is because the writers don't know how to make these character act like regular people. It's not like the old days when Peter Parker had real life problems and over came it making the story more interesting. It's more Peter Parker has a problem and he's going to sit on his couch and wait for his girlfriend to solve it for him. Either the writers are a group of sociopaths, or they just never related to the character in the first place, because they didn't actually like the character to begin with. This is what makes me think this group of new writers aren't actually fans of comics, they just have a message they want to share and because comics have become a popular venue, they're using that venue to broadcast their message. All of this at the cost of the character, the story, and eventually the readers. It's sad to see this happening to one of my favorite heroes. Can you imagine if someone rewrote Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker the same way they've written Bobby Drake?
After this disaster of a comic, Our Boi Zack needs a safe space full of comics that accurately depict various theaters of war and a Fourth World Omnibus.
My God, what have they done to Iceman? This just makes me want to watch the part where Iceman gets his head cut off by a sentinel in the movie "Days of Future Past". I could just watch that over and over again.
Hang in there marine! Your reading through that steaming pile of poo saves us civilians from wasting our time and money on sjw marvel. We thank you and salute you!
Being "fashionably late" is an attitude that drives me nuts, I was raised on the idea that being late for no valid reason is very rude. The implication being that you are wasting everyone else's time and a failure on you for not planning accordingly.
its sad that marvel have done this to a great x man ,
Better than what they did to Cap.
Oh my gawd! You were "LITERALLY SHAKING"! I've heard about it so much but never seen it in action.
Good job on this,keep on roasting like coffe beans. :)
Your patience is admirable. I would've been screaming and begging Cthulu to take me by the third page.
What did they do to Bobby he use to be so noble and kind to his friends and teammates, now blows off funeral an mourning to get down with some guy.
Scratch that what the hell did they do to Ghost Rider Hercules everyone everyone what happened to the old champions God help us
SEVERAL THINGS!!! First, they turned the Champions skyscraper into a gym? Really? Wow. Second, that building was notorious for it's countless defects. Wouldn't Angel be concerned for everyone's safety??? Third, didn't Angel have it torn down? I seem to recall him mentioning that in another story some time ago. Fourth, with the possible exception of Hercules, I'm positive every member of the Champions has died at some point, and they never got together any of those times, so why is dumb Black Widow so special? Fifth, with the exception of Iceman and Angel, I thought the Champions mostly hated each other and their time as a team, so why would they ever have any reunion for any reason? Sixth, why Is every character in SJW Marvel a super genius? The woman was an aspiring fucking actress what the hell would she know about advanced robotics to allow her to build a Sentinel? Seventh, if the woman is so rich that she can afford parts to build a full sized fucking Sentinel, why not just hire an agent and get roles that way? Fuck me, I could go on and on! This is so damn stupid!
My boi Zach's alive!
Zach what are your thoughts on Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men? Would love to see a video covering their show. I looked at the last previews book for the new Marvel books and I didn't recognize any of the creators. Where are the familiar names? Where is the draw to any of these books? There is a reason Marvel keeps re-using Jim Lee art for items, they can't find any decent artists anymore.
This couldn't have been written any other way. I hate to be blunt, but it's pretty obvious when SJW's are pushing a message, because the message is always more important than facts. This issue cheapened all these heroes; Natasha was a friend, a companion, basically a war buddy. But instead of a memorial for a fallen comrade, it's more important to show how GREAT being gay is, how supportive everyone else should be, and why it's more important to get what you want in the moment rather than respect someone who just died. SJW's are very selfish... it's all about them, and that's how Bobby is now.
The tragedy for me is that Iceman was always one of my favorite heroes. He, Colossus, Nightcrawler, and Havok were my favorite X-Men, and now he's completely unreadable.
Wow... "It's wack." I'm trying to remember the last time I heard someone use that term. I think it was the Josie and Pussy Cats movie. Geeze... that was 2001... what the hell.
Just got to the "Drinking and mourning canceled." part. Okay. I'm mad. Why is this a comic? I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but why are they doing it with Iceman? Why? If Black Widow's death is this unimportant then WHY WAS IT USED AS A PLOT POINT IN THE FREAKING STORY! GAAAAAA!
My more extensive thoughts on all of this: supernerdrage.blogspot.com/2017/10/iceman-6-upset-me.html
Sorry to say this was the gayest issue and I normally don't speak this way but this was a dumb issue
Do not worry, I'm pretty sure even homosexuals would say "This is fucking gay as fuuuuuuuuck".
Brilliant! Brilliant! This is one of the funniest videos ever. You're frustration is felt my brother. Love, love, love the feet rip! It's so bad, I'm not using my hands, I'm using my feet!!!
A straight guy wrote this write? Only a straight guy would write something so flamboyantly exaggerated
Coming back to this in 2023. Man, these old angry Zack reviews are gold. After all these years, this is still my favorite UA-cam channel on comics.
“Your a certified gay now”....
I’m WEAK right now. That is he f**king larious this book is a garbage fire. 🔥
#nooneisthisgay
Sigh...remembering the days when iceman was the coolest (no pun intended) mutant and one of my favorite heroes.
Pretty cover~ I hope they do more of those. Also better comics would be nice.
Jayden i was thinking about cool covers just a few minutes before this video
It's more of a sitcom than a comic book. All it needs is a laugh track
This is a common problem with SJW characters. It's the confusion between the mundane with actual character development. SJW logic is that the only way to relate to a character is if that character does this completely mundane thing. So behold. Look in awe as She Hulk watches cooking shows on youtube. America goes to college... then on a road trip. Iceman is triggered by a gym.
Don't you feel soooo connected to these characters? They're doing mundane things like you do! That's how connections to people are made, right? They're just like you. We're all superheros!
It's so stupid. I don't know what it's like to be a soldier or a fireman or whatever. But when you read a well written story, like say "All Quiet on the Western Front" you take a step closer to what it is to be in that character's shoes. While you'll never fully get there, you'll still feel just a tad bit of that weight and it's as said in To Kill a Mockingbird "One time [Atticus] said you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them. For me, just standing on the Radley porch was enough." And it is enough for that empathy. At least for normal people who are capable of feeling empathy.
But for whatever reason SJWs don't get that. It's like they don't understand empathy. Maybe they don't feel it at all. That's why surface traits are so important to them. They're moral bullies. They want to be bullies and push people around, but they are told that's wrong (they don't feel it's wrong) so they find someone who is morally objectionable and bully them. That way they can be a bully and be moral! Best of both worlds.
PS: Would anyone like me to make a youtube video of me shooting this comic out of a cannon?
He can't chill out, Zach. He already did, that's why he's icy looking. Ba-dum-tish.
Does the Comic shop owner give you weird looks when you come in and buy one shitty comic after the other?
ceman (Robert Louis "Bobby" Drake) 1963-2017 "GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN. THEY CAN'T HURT YOU ANYMORE" R.I.P.
So Ice Man's big gripe is that nobody seems to care about Black Widow's death and their old base is a gym. And yet he decides to quit being sad about the death of his "friend" because a complete stranger asked him out?
This is absolutely terrible. People are so quick to defend the decision of Ice Man being gay, which isn't terrible by itself. But if THIS story is the trade-off for Bobby coming to terms with being a homosexual... THIS story being made to empathize with people struggling with their sexuality! THIS is their idea of a superhero to represent the "marginalized" gay community! Then Ice Man is better off returning to the proverbial closet until he gets his act together!
Because for all the struggles and hardships both Ice Man and the gay community have endured. They both deserve WAY better than this shitty excuse for a story!
Making Ice Man gay IS terrible. 35 years of established heterosexuality, destroyed by one garbage "You're gay Bobby!" If they cared so much about "representation", then why not create their own gay character? Why change something like that? Or better yet, why not push the already gay characters Marvel has? Like Hulkling or Wiccan?
...Or Northstar an ACTUAL homosexual X-men character. Or hell even Richter and Shatterstar, a homosexual couple(last I checked anyways).
SJW Marvel has plenty of characters that actually are gay, that they refuse to do anything with! Hell, Prodigy(former X-men turned super genius) actually is both a POC AND bisexual. Yet the most they've done with him is make him America Chavez' techie sidekick! SJW Marvel not only lacks the foresight to use the type of characters they claim are NOT being represented(and are already available to use), but they lack the narrative skills to give these characters the quality stories they deserve!
+Neostar Productions Hell, It'd be better to use Northstar. If memory serves, he was the first gay character to get married.
Indeed. Somehow I get the feeling the writer never even heard of Northstar...
+Neostar Productions The vast majority of SJW Marvel writers haven't heard of most of the characters they have in their roster.
Remember when comics used to be about good guys stopping bad guys from committing crimes/trying to take over the world?
When D&C started to step on the comics was the best part of the video (lmao)
Way to set back mutant relations with the common man, Bobby-boy...
BROOKLYN RAGE!
Couldn't make it through the video, had to shut it off after 12 minutes. After Hercules said his loin cloth was vibrating with vigor. You are a real trooper for sludging through and reading this crap man! Keep fighting the good fight man.
Ok, I have a question. Why do the normal people in these comics take whatever abuse the "Heros" choose to mete out to them? In this book you just went through why wasn't she on the phone to a lawyer to sue Iceman for damages to her property? She was building an imitation sentinel, and made it clear to him it wasn't a real one, but he destroyed it anyway, because "bad day." Any halfway decent lawyer would be on that like white on rice and make her several thousand dollars at least.
That kid who got kidnapped by Ms Marvel's goon squad should have been on the phone to the lawyer as soon as he got home. Riches await!
I would seriously make an attorney villain who goes around suing superheros for damages to private and public property, making bank off each lawsuit.
How would this attorney character even be a villain?
well, he wouldn't be in a moral world. But this is a world where superheros proclaim themselves to be all that is good in the universe. I still think it would be an ok story. Not that I have any interest in comics anymore.@@attackerangel2951
Thank you for your service and thank you for your sacrifice in reading this.