I mean Stockton and Malone weren’t exactly top picks in their respective drafts, unless the Jazz were somehow championship calibre already in those years (which is still possible don’t get me wrong), they could’ve still snagged both of em
Boston knew exactly what they were doing that year 😂. They acted like they were taking Fultz all year and then last month was like "JK Tatum is our guy "
I know Luka is better than trae but to say the mavs clearly won the trade when the hawks have been the same or better team throughout both their careers is crazy. That Luka trade also netted the Hawks DJ Murray
@@jaydenjones4709 hawks are also gonna have to trade Trae soon there not getting anywhere Trae a pretty bad player right now his efficiency is really bad
Surprised the Warriors trade with the Magic in 1993 wasn’t on here. The Warriors gave up 3 future first round picks and Penny Hardaway for Chris Webber, who only ended up playing with them for one season.
Giving up mitch Richmond for billy Owen's who would be a bust was a horrible trade. Kings were a playoff team later on and the warriors broke the tmc team
Probably because the Magic wasted all three of those picks on guys you've never heard of? This isn't a good list anyway since Boston was always taking Tatum and only traded back after Philly committed to drafting Fultz.
I feel like some of these aren't that bad. There were circumstances that I feel like you overlooked. Like the pacers didn't have a true point and George Hill was a championship point guard. And starbury was just as good (if not better) as Ray Allen until he went to new York. Just wish you had more context
Yeah like Kobe for vladey who it’s because the only players to come straight out of hs and be successful were all big men at the time so they went with the safer option
@@SnuggieMaple agreed, vlade divac was a proven stretch 4 back then, like Tony kukoc for the bulls or hedo turkoglu for many teams. The hornets were gonna take him over the unproven rookie. I think they had, mugsy, Glen Rice, and Dell curry too. It worked in the short term, and vlade is in the hall of fame so 🤷🏾♂️
Charlotte knew that they were never going to keep Kobe. I don't recall if he said he was only going to play for LA or if he simply refused to play for Charlotte. They thought that, by trading him, they could use him as a trade piece for something good. Divac averaged 16 and 10 two years before the trade and was coming off of an off year. He wasn't an All-Star at that point in his career, but he was a solid starting center. If Kobe said that he wouldn't have played for anyone but LA, Divac may have been the best deal they could get. Kobe's value would have cratered as an 18 year old who was demanding to play for one franchise.
@@leclark5067 with context I can’t blame them at all why would they wait for a high school kid to develop into something what happens if he doesn’t? They needed to contend they couldn’t wait
To be fair the mavericks - hawks trade wasn’t that bad both players have made it to the conference finals and lost to the eventual champs and both players fit in their systems so not it was a win-win trade Also their both great
PHILLY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DRAFT TATUM!!! Why do people keep pretending they did? Boston only traded the pick because they knew Philly wanted fultz and lakers were getting Lonzo.
@@AmiriHipHop you pretending they had a chance is hilarious. You think philly would want to shoot themselves in the foot like that and let the other 28 GMs in the league know they can’t be trusted?? Not to mention all the workouts they had with Fultz before making the trade to #1. There was 0 chance Boston was trading the pick if philly was even considering Tatum. You tried though
One trade that I think you forgot about is that mikal Bridges was traded from the 76ers to the Phoenix Suns on draft night. For some guy that never played in the NBA more than one season
This one hurts more than the Fultz/Tatum trade, because Bridges just won a title at Villanova, and Philly loved him. At the time, the Fultz trade made since, but turned out poorly in retrospect.
The lottery wasn't put into place until the 1985 draft. Nique and Stockton were in the league by then and Malone was drafted that year at 13. So it is possible they still could have gotten all three.
Giving a player (Shai) who at 24 is already arguably better than Paul George ever was, as well as 6 draft picks, one of which became Jalen Williams who finished 2nd in rookie of the year voting, is insane. Clippers have to be up here.
Shai isn't even close to prime pg. Pg led the pacers to the conference finals and took Brons heatles to 7 games. Ended up top 3 in MVP and dpoy voting in 2019. Consistently led his teams to the playoffs. Took the clippers to their first western conference finals in franchise history with an undermanned squad without kawhi all the while Shai couldn't beat the timberwolves in a play-in game. Truth is Shai puts up good stats on a bad team and has never led his team to the playoffs. This comment is just stupid
@@tridra5714 Shai just led the youngest team in NBA history to the play in and 20 more wins than they were projected, while being top 5 in MVP voting and putting up a season only Wade and Jordan have had. I love PG, but Shai right now is at the very least as good as prime PG.
@@duffal0 Well then what did that trade have to do with the draft? Nothing? Your saying that the PG-Shai trade is one of the lopsided draft nights when it wasn't on draft night.
No. The only reason they drafted Kobe was to get divac. They needed a center and didnt need a guard. Lakers (or Jerry west) wanted Kobe but didnt have a lottery pick. So they already had the deal before the draft if Kobe was available when it was Charlottes turn. And another reason lakers wanted to deal divac was because they wanted to sign Shaq in free agency but couldnt due to the salery cap. So they more or less got both Kobe and Shaq by trading Divac
@@bjarkepedersen8537 excellent explanation if that's true. I always new kobe was drafted 13th or so by Charlotte and traded straight away but never why or who for but I did always hear that kobe requested/demanded he'd only play for lakers before/during the draft
As a jazz fan, I had no idea that the jazz could have had 4 of the top 30ish all-time players in the same line up while in the thier primes. Idk about the fit of Stockton and magic, but I'm sure they would have figured it out. That team would have automatically been in the conversation for the best of all time. Damn.
Definitely unlikely. You have to think about how Magic would have affected the Jazz record and their odds for future draft picks. The assertion that the Jazz could have landed all 4 of these players assumes that each acquisition of a player doesn't affect them getting the other, which isn't true.
I hate that people always ignore to say that in Kobe trade, He said that he wasnt going to play for charlotte and was going to sit out... so they didnt have a chance to keep him.
@@rimgarr You would be suprised mate if you have enough of an upside in professional sports you can maneuver yourself to the best position, it was much easier ironically enough to do in the 80s until they had that contract then the nba did not have hold of you, once you signed tho you were often scuppered until rookie scale was introduced.... Pippen was on the wrong side of this and Derrick Coleman was on the right side LOL
You know what also could have been another lopsided draft trade? The Blazers almost traded away Clyde Drexler to the Rockets in 1984. Guess who the Rockets would have picked after that? You can find this story in Hakeem Olajuwon’s autobiography.
Imagine Jokic, Jamaal Murray, Gobert and Mitchell on the same team, Nuggets would really make a contender perhaps to challenge the Warriors in the West at that time, although the question is, would Gobert get along with Jokic and Murray (as we knew he and Mitchell didn't get along with each other during their time at Utah resulting to Rudy being traded to the Wolves and Donovan to the Cavs) Also had Ray Allen and KG became teammates earlier in Minnesota, perhaps the Wolves have a deeper run since Garnett had a legitimate scorer alongside him in Allen especially in 2004 but another question is, will they still end up traded to Boston in 2007 or will Paul Pierce join them instead there? Also Indiana blew a chance to have a PG Kawhi duo in their team, something the Clippers have now (although they both suffering injuries recently)
Mitch and Gobert not getting along is a false rumor and their still friends. It was even reported that they wanted to stay in Utah and told ainge to not trade him that their was no rush but a deal was done
That Bill Russell trade for Ed Macauley and Cliff Hagan is NOT a one-sided trade. Yes, Bill Russell is the greatest winner and 11 chips and all.. but both Macauley and Hagan end up winning the Chip with the Hawks too back in 58. Plus, both Macauley and Hagan are HOF... so 1 HOF getting traded for 2 HOF.... seems like in one way, more one sided to the Hawks.
Honorable mentions would be the thunder trading Ibaka to the magic for dipo and sabonis also kings and butler to the Sixers or the nets trading dr J to the Sixers for cash. Warriors giving up parish and a draft pick which would be mchale to the celtics
the faults - tatum trade wouldn`t happen if philly planed on takin`tatum. boston would have taken tatum with the no1 pick the owned instead, and wouldn`t agree on a pick swap.
I’ve been alive for most of these trades. And not all of them are with this channel is making them appear to be. A lot of times teams will have another team draft a player they want Foley knowing that they’re going to be trading for it. It’s a little misleading that’s all.
Even if Jazz would have got Magic an Wilkins to team with Stockston an Malone they still wouldn't have won a championship they still would have choked to the Bulls lmao
In hindsight. Yes Kobe was bad trade for hornet. But nobody knows how well players will do. Divac was established centre Allstar. So it wasn’t the worst deal at the time.
If the Jazz pick stayed, was still number 1, and was used to draft Magic Johnson, do you honestly think that they would have the opportunity to draft Wilkins, Stockton, and Malone?
You have to take into account who the coach is. Red knew how to treat Russell. Another coach Russ might have had problems with. Plus Hawks might not have drafted two other hofers.
If Utah had drafted Magic Johnson and Dominic Wilkins they wouldn't be in a position to draft malone and Stockton
I mean Stockton and Malone weren’t exactly top picks in their respective drafts, unless the Jazz were somehow championship calibre already in those years (which is still possible don’t get me wrong), they could’ve still snagged both of em
i think they won if they had Magic and Nique
As a Nuggets fan, it HURTS me to think about Spida potentially being our starting 2 with Jokic and Murray
Same
Could’ve had gobert too
Oh man the lineup would’ve been stacked
PG- Murray
SG-Spida
SF-MPJ
PF-Jokic
C-Gobert
😢
Murray and jokic wouldn't be on the team lol
Murray was a Knicks pick in the Melo trade :(
Getting Jayson Tatum instead of Markelle Fultz is something I’m grateful for every day
Celtics front office told Tatum they would've taken him with No.1 pick too
if you didnt trade down the celtics was gonna draft him anyways they traded down because they knew he was gonna be still avaiable
Boston knew exactly what they were doing that year 😂. They acted like they were taking Fultz all year and then last month was like "JK Tatum is our guy "
I know Luka is better than trae but to say the mavs clearly won the trade when the hawks have been the same or better team throughout both their careers is crazy.
That Luka trade also netted the Hawks DJ Murray
Yea mavs didn’t even make the playoffs this year lol
This aged so bad
@@Thegoat7484 …did it?
@@jaydenjones4709 hawks did not make playoffs Luka should won mvp and mavs are about to make a conference finals it aged really bad
@@jaydenjones4709 hawks are also gonna have to trade Trae soon there not getting anywhere Trae a pretty bad player right now his efficiency is really bad
Surprised the Warriors trade with the Magic in 1993 wasn’t on here. The Warriors gave up 3 future first round picks and Penny Hardaway for Chris Webber, who only ended up playing with them for one season.
Giving up mitch Richmond for billy Owen's who would be a bust was a horrible trade. Kings were a playoff team later on and the warriors broke the tmc team
Probably because the Magic wasted all three of those picks on guys you've never heard of? This isn't a good list anyway since Boston was always taking Tatum and only traded back after Philly committed to drafting Fultz.
@@chrisbutler1668 well the warriors could've had penny hardaway but to be fair they already had a guard named tim hardaway
@@tj5180 That's true. They would have been the best backcourt in the league at the time if they took Penny.
In a couple years the celtics giving away Desmond Bane to the grizzlies will be on this list
Rudy Goebert should be on it a second time for his trade to the Wolves...
@@hthrun That never happened on draft night tho
@@devinjones6670 Oh, you're right, I forgot that part of the video title...
Luka/Trae trade is definitely not one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history.
Pacers trading a 1984 1st for Tom Owens which ended up being Michael Jordan
I feel like some of these aren't that bad. There were circumstances that I feel like you overlooked. Like the pacers didn't have a true point and George Hill was a championship point guard. And starbury was just as good (if not better) as Ray Allen until he went to new York. Just wish you had more context
Yeah like Kobe for vladey who it’s because the only players to come straight out of hs and be successful were all big men at the time so they went with the safer option
@@SnuggieMaple agreed, vlade divac was a proven stretch 4 back then, like Tony kukoc for the bulls or hedo turkoglu for many teams. The hornets were gonna take him over the unproven rookie. I think they had, mugsy, Glen Rice, and Dell curry too. It worked in the short term, and vlade is in the hall of fame so 🤷🏾♂️
Charlotte knew that they were never going to keep Kobe. I don't recall if he said he was only going to play for LA or if he simply refused to play for Charlotte. They thought that, by trading him, they could use him as a trade piece for something good. Divac averaged 16 and 10 two years before the trade and was coming off of an off year. He wasn't an All-Star at that point in his career, but he was a solid starting center.
If Kobe said that he wouldn't have played for anyone but LA, Divac may have been the best deal they could get. Kobe's value would have cratered as an 18 year old who was demanding to play for one franchise.
@@leclark5067 with context I can’t blame them at all why would they wait for a high school kid to develop into something what happens if he doesn’t? They needed to contend they couldn’t wait
To be fair the mavericks - hawks trade wasn’t that bad both players have made it to the conference finals and lost to the eventual champs and both players fit in their systems so not it was a win-win trade
Also their both great
Win win for a generational talent idk
@@alexescutia4805 generational talents don't literally miss the fucking play in
@@adamwatson2132 luka is generational. Trae shoots 40% in the playoffs. Different tiers
PHILLY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DRAFT TATUM!!!
Why do people keep pretending they did? Boston only traded the pick because they knew Philly wanted fultz and lakers were getting Lonzo.
@@AmiriHipHop it was clear boston wanted to draft tatum. Which ainge made clear and he was impressed with his workouts.
@@AmiriHipHop you pretending they had a chance is hilarious. You think philly would want to shoot themselves in the foot like that and let the other 28 GMs in the league know they can’t be trusted?? Not to mention all the workouts they had with Fultz before making the trade to #1. There was 0 chance Boston was trading the pick if philly was even considering Tatum. You tried though
@@jsnike91 I am so confused by this kids logic
Who is doing better in the playoffs right now? Dallas or Hawks. Who won the trade again?
Dallas did they have luka doncic
@@alexescutia4805 Enjoy not watching basketball past April Dallas bum lmao
@@adamwatson2132 I’m a heat fan you clown lukas a way better player unless you’re biased
So inspirational
Hawks traded Bill Russell because they knew they could never have him play for a team in the still segregated south
This was well known and disappointing was not included in the russell breakdown...
One trade that I think you forgot about is that mikal Bridges was traded from the 76ers to the Phoenix Suns on draft night. For some guy that never played in the NBA more than one season
They traded him for Zaire smith who actually had some potential but sadly he got a sickness or diease that effected his ball career
@@tj5180he had bunnys but besides that he was mit good
This one hurts more than the Fultz/Tatum trade, because Bridges just won a title at Villanova, and Philly loved him. At the time, the Fultz trade made since, but turned out poorly in retrospect.
But you know how lottery works? If the Jazz drafted Magic, they would probably be too good to draft Nique, Stockton and Malone…
The lottery wasn't put into place until the 1985 draft. Nique and Stockton were in the league by then and Malone was drafted that year at 13. So it is possible they still could have gotten all three.
Giving a player (Shai) who at 24 is already arguably better than Paul George ever was, as well as 6 draft picks, one of which became Jalen Williams who finished 2nd in rookie of the year voting, is insane. Clippers have to be up here.
Shai isn't even close to prime pg. Pg led the pacers to the conference finals and took Brons heatles to 7 games. Ended up top 3 in MVP and dpoy voting in 2019. Consistently led his teams to the playoffs. Took the clippers to their first western conference finals in franchise history with an undermanned squad without kawhi all the while Shai couldn't beat the timberwolves in a play-in game. Truth is Shai puts up good stats on a bad team and has never led his team to the playoffs. This comment is just stupid
He wasn't traded on draft night tho
@@devinjones6670 that has nothing to do with anything
@@tridra5714 Shai just led the youngest team in NBA history to the play in and 20 more wins than they were projected, while being top 5 in MVP voting and putting up a season only Wade and Jordan have had. I love PG, but Shai right now is at the very least as good as prime PG.
@@duffal0 Well then what did that trade have to do with the draft? Nothing? Your saying that the PG-Shai trade is one of the lopsided draft nights when it wasn't on draft night.
5:10 I remember hearing reports that Kobe refused to play with the Hornets back when that trade occured...
i remember hearing that the nets were going to draft him but his agent said he wouldnt play there because of the location
No. The only reason they drafted Kobe was to get divac. They needed a center and didnt need a guard. Lakers (or Jerry west) wanted Kobe but didnt have a lottery pick. So they already had the deal before the draft if Kobe was available when it was Charlottes turn.
And another reason lakers wanted to deal divac was because they wanted to sign Shaq in free agency but couldnt due to the salery cap.
So they more or less got both Kobe and Shaq by trading Divac
@@bjarkepedersen8537 excellent explanation if that's true.
I always new kobe was drafted 13th or so by Charlotte and traded straight away but never why or who for but I did always hear that kobe requested/demanded he'd only play for lakers before/during the draft
Lies
The owner said that Kobe's agent wanted him to play in a bigger market
As a jazz fan, I had no idea that the jazz could have had 4 of the top 30ish all-time players in the same line up while in the thier primes. Idk about the fit of Stockton and magic, but I'm sure they would have figured it out. That team would have automatically been in the conversation for the best of all time. Damn.
Said reality
Definitely unlikely. You have to think about how Magic would have affected the Jazz record and their odds for future draft picks. The assertion that the Jazz could have landed all 4 of these players assumes that each acquisition of a player doesn't affect them getting the other, which isn't true.
@@michaelg.2515 very true
Hey can we have an update of the 10 greatest duos in nba history ?
I hate that people always ignore to say that in Kobe trade, He said that he wasnt going to play for charlotte and was going to sit out... so they didnt have a chance to keep him.
Revisionist history
damn i didn’t know about those potential players as a jazz fan :P one chip is all a franchise needs for a lot of arguments lol
Yah but domniq dindnt want to play in utah
@@tiktoksthatmademyday1684 it’s not about what the player wants it’s a business lol
@@rimgarr You would be suprised mate if you have enough of an upside in professional sports you can maneuver yourself to the best position, it was much easier ironically enough to do in the 80s until they had that contract then the nba did not have hold of you, once you signed tho you were often scuppered until rookie scale was introduced.... Pippen was on the wrong side of this and Derrick Coleman was on the right side LOL
Bro that is not fair, you gave scottie pippen accomplishments more camera time than polleigneese
You know what also could have been another lopsided draft trade? The Blazers almost traded away Clyde Drexler to the Rockets in 1984. Guess who the Rockets would have picked after that? You can find this story in Hakeem Olajuwon’s autobiography.
Did the mavs win the trade? Mavericks aren’t in the playoffs and the Hawks just won a game in the playoffs against the Celtics.
Stop with the Tatum thing! If Philly had any inkling Philly wanted Tatum, Boston would have taken him 1st.
The luka and trae is just a win win both teams have been able to go to conference finals and both players are able to be a super star calliber player
Doesn't fit their lazy narrative
4:20 The Wolves are the worst.
Poly nice 😂
I don't mind Niggets trading Gobert, he is way overrated anyway. But Mitchel, man, that would be something.
Listen I understand that but our core didn’t need him and Jamal is a better fit
yeah was probably for the better gobert didnt end up on the roster
7:27
Imagine Jokic, Jamaal Murray, Gobert and Mitchell on the same team, Nuggets would really make a contender perhaps to challenge the Warriors in the West at that time, although the question is, would Gobert get along with Jokic and Murray (as we knew he and Mitchell didn't get along with each other during their time at Utah resulting to Rudy being traded to the Wolves and Donovan to the Cavs)
Also had Ray Allen and KG became teammates earlier in Minnesota, perhaps the Wolves have a deeper run since Garnett had a legitimate scorer alongside him in Allen especially in 2004 but another question is, will they still end up traded to Boston in 2007 or will Paul Pierce join them instead there?
Also Indiana blew a chance to have a PG Kawhi duo in their team, something the Clippers have now (although they both suffering injuries recently)
Mitch and Gobert not getting along is a false rumor and their still friends. It was even reported that they wanted to stay in Utah and told ainge to not trade him that their was no rush but a deal was done
What about Portland trading Gerald Wallace to the Nets for a future 1st….who ended up being Damien Lillard!!!
yooo early gang
Is it fair to say Kawhi never becomes as good as is today without his time with the spurs and Pop?
That Bill Russell trade for Ed Macauley and Cliff Hagan is NOT a one-sided trade.
Yes, Bill Russell is the greatest winner and 11 chips and all.. but both Macauley and Hagan end up winning the Chip with the Hawks too back in 58.
Plus, both Macauley and Hagan are HOF... so 1 HOF getting traded for 2 HOF.... seems like in one way, more one sided to the Hawks.
Kobe trade is the craziest
what is he saying about the Luka-Trae trade? 😂
Well the mavericks did win this trade tho
@@devinjones6670 yeah they won the trade but I wouldn’t say it’s one of the most lopsided trades ever
Bro not only that but the Jazz could of had Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Dominique Wilkins and Karl Malone
Didn’t the Celtics get Bill Russell in part due to the intense racism in Atlanta at the time?
Yes, but the Hawks were still in St. Louis at the time.
@@ThePapaduff ah, thanks for that info!
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Honorable mentions would be the thunder trading Ibaka to the magic for dipo and sabonis also kings and butler to the Sixers or the nets trading dr J to the Sixers for cash. Warriors giving up parish and a draft pick which would be mchale to the celtics
the faults - tatum trade wouldn`t happen if philly planed on takin`tatum. boston would have taken tatum with the no1 pick the owned instead, and wouldn`t agree on a pick swap.
OKC fleecing the Magic and Clippers
as a pacers fan the kawhi thing does pain me, but they also didn’t have a true point guard at the time so in the moment it made sense.
I’ve been alive for most of these trades. And not all of them are with this channel is making them appear to be. A lot of times teams will have another team draft a player they want Foley knowing that they’re going to be trading for it. It’s a little misleading that’s all.
The Celtics know how to just finesse the other teams
Magic trade was way before the draft
Jazz traded the future 1st for Gail Goodrich
Even if Jazz would have got Magic an Wilkins to team with Stockston an Malone they still wouldn't have won a championship they still would have choked to the Bulls lmao
Mikal bridges for Zhaire Smith was absurd
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That Ray Allen trade is crazy 🤦🏾♂️. Ray & KG in in Minnesota would of be nice
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Vlade DivaCH?
Well the Bill Russel trade was more about the racist environment in St Louis
In hindsight. Yes Kobe was bad trade for hornet. But nobody knows how well players will do. Divac was established centre Allstar. So it wasn’t the worst deal at the time.
Hello
Jesus Christ loves you
Bro did the guy who was traded for Scottie dirty af at the end lmao 😂🤣
Couldn't even pronounce his name correctly.
If the Jazz pick stayed, was still number 1, and was used to draft Magic Johnson, do you honestly think that they would have the opportunity to draft Wilkins, Stockton, and Malone?
Early gang
You have to take into account who the coach is. Red knew how to treat Russell. Another coach Russ might have had problems with. Plus Hawks might not have drafted two other hofers.
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If Indiana didn't trade Kawhi, They could have beat the Miami big 3 atleast once in 2013-14.
Kobe wasn't going to play for the hornets
bs and very bad arguments
You're right. Mav's won that trade and are killing it in thw playoffs right, while the Hawks are home, comtemplating their future...
Lol they cant even get wilkins if they get magic.
Why don't you talk about the Celtics and NBA having ties to the Irish mob and IRA Irish Republican army
MJ isnt even the goat with scottie.
If Mj isn't the goat with scottie, then LeBron definitely isn't the goat with Dwade, bosh, Allen, AD, the Bubble etc..
@@morgan2552t that makes no sense.
@@morgan2552t THE BUBBLE? When was that a player and how does that have to do with his legacy? Your a idiot everyone has stars who plays with them
No one asked and what does that have to do with the video
Just how kareem had magic and Duncan with parker and manu, pop also bron without wade and ad in his career and durant without curry etc I can go on