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@@premmahto4855 why so ? He explained it without taking any sides and with facts! Tell me what issue you faced I’ll explain you. Don’t comment just for the sake of commenting anything which isn’t in your mental reach!
India doesn't even fully utilize its own share of water and leaves most of it for Pak. Yet, over the past 76 years Pak couldn't even develop its own AGRICULTURE and is dependent on foreign aid for food. Their only successful cultivation is PROJECT 72. The latest crop being Peshawar 86 and counting.
Because Pakistan rapidly expanded the canal systems that the British started, which were simply meant to be economically exploitative of the land, give political power to elites and not at all viable in the long term. There's a pretty good Vox video on it
That woman is the most embarrassing reporter in the print. Beyond horrible interviewer, horrendous presenter but most of all it seems like she doesn’t understand anything. I wonder if she has anything on SG and thats why she isnt fired
@@mavking4290 she is a mmoslim supporter so directly she is a ggaz wa hhind supporter..... don't expect anything from her.... for her it is ok if a 55yyrs old mmarry a 9 yyr old .......
Britain created, headache for them. USA supported Pakistan's Bangla Genocide, headache for them. From India it was created, headache for them. Neighbour to Iran and Afghans, headache for them. Baloch, Sindhi, Pashtoon are living in it, headache for them. Only Pakistani Punjabi is happy.
@@iamnothing143 just blame British for everything... Can you burn water or rock..no You can only burn charcoal or wood. Why most terrorist who attack civilization, kidnapp girls on massive level or make sex slave are all from one religion. Other are not saint but one is definitely devil.
Finally some clarity on this issue. 28 minutes of everything related to water treaty- from history of the treaty, provisions, dams, flow of rivers and then you realise the entire ctc is flowing like a river. Again beautiful presentation SG 👍👌
Dumbest analysis ever on the subject! The 'hierarchy' of escalation is ALREADY in the treaty! India is not opposing 'Court of Arbitration' because of its injunctive powers but because the treaty explicitly says that the 'Court of Arbitration' could be approached AFTER the 'Neutral expert' process is complete. Pakistan jumped steps by abandoning 'Neutral expert' and going to CoA.
Pakistan look for Opportunities to violates Shimla Agreement in Letter and Spirit but BECOMES very sensitive when it comes to Indus Water Treaty although it is not violation to renegotiate accordance to new realities.India is interested in small changes which the requirements of modern times.The attitude of Pakistan is difficult to understand and is laughable as it is based on its own insecurities.
@@idbhandari9952 The attitude is NOT at all difficult to understand. Pakistan's DNA is a double-helix strand of Hate-India & Destroy-India. No politician, bureaucrat, military general can justify their role unless they can show their 'awaam' that they inflicted some injury on India.
@@anilanandkotianhe also thought sheikh Abdullah will support him in Kashmir issue but he betrayed…if he would have dominant from start…India destiny would have changed
Congress party is the main reason for all the perennial problems faced by India. Permanent membership in UN security council was also missed due to the mistake of Nehru. India lost a lot of wealth because of the Indus Water Treaty agreement. We should utilise the resources.
India was even offered UNSC position TWICE. Once by the US in 1950, then by USSR in 1955. Both times it turned it down to appease China, only to be invaded by China in 1962 India has generally been overly benevolent to China and overly suspicious of the US (outside of the cold war when they were enemies and this was understandable).
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm Yes, our first PM was weak and lacked sufficient vision and tenacity to guide us through the tricky times. We are still suffering from 200 years of continuous British loot & robbery and the first PM. Secondly the west conspired to break India in 3 pieces because they feared USSR. and so they installed puppet Pakistan to gain an advantageous geopolitical spot.
No one offered the 5 nations seats on UNSC & the veto power. They grabbed it. Why should India have been given this status as a gift? The truth is Nehru did not want to e even try.
Times have changed. Water is the most precious resource in the world going forward. This is not 1960 anymore. India should just pull out of treaty and re negotiate it. Pakistan never behaved like a like friendly neighbor in the first place in last 75 years.
And has China ever behaved like a good neighbor with its constant border attacks? The hyper focus on Pakistan is dangerous. Pakistan cannot meaningfully threaten India, China can, and in fact it has many advantages when facing off against India. India has to focus on strengthening itself, whether the old agreements with Pakistan were good or bad isn't that important anymore.
Though India can use full water of 3 rivers but still 5 times less than pakistan in entire river system. What kind of treaty is this? Who did it? It's more like khairat to pakistan than a treaty. Is there any way to rectify it and get water atleast 50% of total water
China and India do not have any treaty on the water. So, how is abrogating one treaty can lead to consequences between two parties who do not have any treaty in place. And China when it comes to international laws, it hardly play by the rules. So, pls dont relate one event with another. This is mere fear mongering by you.
Because regardless of whether or not there is a treaty, Pakistan can cry to China at anytime. If India acts against Pakistan, it will have extreme difficulty criticizing China for doing the same thing at international forums. You are right that China never follows rules and always violates agreements, but the reality is they still have far more international influence than India. So far China has tried to dam the Indian rivers but it has also somewhat restrained. Unless India develops strong relationships with partners, it will have to be very cautious not to antagonize China or give them opportunities to go further.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm, please note that the rivers entering India from China gain more water after they enter India. India is blessed with monsoons that bring massive amount of water, which stays in India and does not cross Himalayas.So even if China stops these rivers from entering India, these rivers will continue to have abundant water, may be 90% of the original flow.
China has already started to regulate the water coming to India and building huge dams to block the water or flood the area..e g. On Brahmaputra River. China can do whatever they want , they are not generous like India
Honored by both sides ROFL. Due to its role as a giver and its integrity, India honored even during the war. Pak on the other hand is only a beneficiary. Is there ever a case where a side gets something but says no to it? The expression "both sides honored" doesn't seem appropriate in this context. Now check the situation on Brahamaputra. Does China ever listen to us on the fair sharig of water ? The world just works like this.
China has barely started on the Brahmaputra because China's greatest fear is India might fully enter the US sphere, and the US and India are its long term strategic competitors in the new cold war. However if India is more aggressive on water issues with Pakistan, they will cry to China and China will take advantage of the situation to retaliate with its own extremely aggressive water control. India will have difficulty criticizing this on the international stage if it does something similar to Pakistan. India has to accept that China is its greatest enemy, NOT Pakistan. And India also has to accept that it is at a massive disadvantage vs China in terms of economy and international diplomatic heft. So unless India is willing to strengthen its foreign alliances or wait decades for the power disparity between it and China to shrink, it has to be cautious about how it acts in the region for now. Its important to take a long term view.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm , China can't create water scarcity in Brahmaputra River actually. 70%+ water in Brahmaputra comes from within India, Bhutan. Problem is, they can flood it by their dame. However India is building a dame to prevent it. And USA has no role to play. India survived so far, bad times, without sugar daddy, when USA was supporting Pakistan's Hindu Genocide in Bangladesh.
Just because the river begins in India does not mean it belongs to India. Certainly you have the ability to increase it or not but that doesn't you have the right to.
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Pakistanis complaint in ICJ: All current of the water has been taken out by Indian Hindus using their dams. This is the reason this water is not producing crops in Pakistan and Pakistan is facing food shortage these days.
India says my river is also your river. Pakistani and china says my river is my river and your river is also is my river. Shekar Gupta , Praveen Sami and rest of gang all approves. Wonderful!!!
Dumbest analysis ever on the subject! The 'hierarchy' of escalation is ALREADY in the treaty! India is not opposing 'Court of Arbitration' because of its injunctive powers but because the treaty explicitly says that the 'Court of Arbitration' could be approached AFTER the 'Neutral expert' process is complete. Pakistan jumped steps by abandoning 'Neutral expert' and going to CoA.
Myself Being a resident of kandi area drained by Ravi and Chenab , I would like to highlight thatanother main factor on the basis of which the partition lines were drawn by Radcliffe committee were the irrigation canals developed during the British times. The regions between these so called eastern rivers known as Bari and Rechna Doab were divided such that very few canals would cross borders. In this time of 60 years Indian side have interlinked the eastern rivers with meagre waters to flow to pak. Considering the bias it’s high time to revisit the treaty now. Another point is that as we can see in the Shekhar Ji s map Beas is already draining into Sutlej well before it crosses over. So effectively we are only in control of the two rivers out of five draining into pak😅. Excellent decluttering shekharji as always👍🏼
Thank you, Shekhar. I have finally understood the complexity of this issue …. very clearly explained. This is where you’re at your best - sharing the large reservoir of knowledge you possess.
So the combined volumes of water that flows in the eastern rivers (Beas, Ravi and Sutlej) is only 20% and the remaining is 80% (Indus, chenab and Jhelum).
One can easily look at the Google maps of the Punjab region to understand the water sharing of rivers. While Ravi and Sutlej appear only as a blue sliver in Pakistan's Punjab, Jhelum, Chenab and Indus look like a thick blue line.
@@parvadhami980 Chenab, Jhelum and Indus can be diverted to Satluj and Yamuna. .We can revive Saraswati river..Ship can cruise till Delhi from Prayagraj.
Treaty honoured by both sides??? Really? Imagine if even a single river started in Pak and entered india the treaty would hv been broken way earlier. They have nothing to honour.
You mean how the Government of India has beaten you Sikhs into submission? The only successful think Modi has done is ban our actors and not play cricket with us lol. Because that's the only thing your Modi can do.
@@realhumphreyappleby He isn't. He is just rightfully concerned about what happened before that. The real massacre that India's telecom- the most uprising sector till 2012- faced.
This guy just doesn't want to give any credit to Modi. All the development has started after 2014. Not once he said anything about it.. Shekhar is a person who silently combs his hair, goes to a voting ballot and presses the congress button.
Thank you for this episode sir. One thing that I would have liked this episode to elaborate on is how good/fair the IWT is. The reason for that is that I hear many people say that this treaty is highly unfavourable to India and that like everything else Nehru did, is a complete disaster. You touched on this when you told us that India was allowed to use 40 units while Pak gets to have 208. Sadly, you didn't elaborate as to why was this the case.
I was under the impression that Tsangpo is a weak stream which gathers bulk of its water in the flood valley of Assam to turn into Brahmaputra. Hence, damming Tsangpo may not affect water flow of Brahmaputra substantially. Can someone more knowledgable comment on this, please.
10-20% water of Brahmaputra come from Tibet..Dam built by China won't create drought but can create artificial flood if Dragon releases water suddenly.water bomb.China wants to divert water of Brahmaputra,Salwin and Mekong rivers towards Taklamakan and Gobi desert..very ambitious and insane project. .need around 600 billion dollars money and 10-20 years time project
China will not be able to create water shortage in Brahmaputra, but it can reslease even more water in it when it's already flooded and that is the real problem.
1:38 treaty has been honoured by both sides? What exactly could Pakistan do otherwise? India is on upstream side.. One sided instigator of wars is Pakistan and one sided honouror of treaty is India.
@@Warlock786 yeah politicians are, and they need to be. Our Notorious neighbor need to be kept in check because of the harm it causes to us without any provocation from our side.
I feel print wants to sail on 2 boats. Why wasthat episode so heavily biased with no panelist to speak for the Indian view and that too on an Indian channel. Pakistan cannot be trusted still one thing good that they unapologetically defend their country's stand even if it is wrong by twisting facts. Why Indians feel so obliged to show their graciousness with ppl who don't deserve. Print is being clever in collecting their subscription in the name of unbiased journalism.
@@user-yq9ex7hr1i bhai aisa hain, we are the final customers.... If they try to favour our enemy then they will shut down... See what has happened to wire... They are begging like the pakis and no one with any money watches them 🤑.... Guptaji is not immune to market forces and let's be honest everyone knows which side thier bread is buttered.... Print followers are heavily skewed towards the right side of the political spectrum (at least that's what I get from the comments)... On the other hand And in all honesty guptaji does a commendable job of research and presenting the facts in a simple manner... So I guess we will all live and learn
Don't draw false parallels Shekhar, China has not signed any river water treaty with India, the day its technically feasible the Chinese will not hesitate to build big dams and divert waters
1. Redo the agreement. 2. Break the current agreement if they don't agree to work with us. 3. And perhaps have no agreement just like India has no agreement with China (Tibet).
Chenab i.e. Chandrabhaga is basically a river of Himachal Pradesh. It belongs to HP and has a very small Kashmir connectiom. Chenab's waters should be diverted to Ravi and other Indian rivers including Yamuna.
Thanks for unbiased reporting. We need to declutter a lot of issues to live peacefully like good neighbours and forget old enemities for the sake of the betterment of our people. Dialogue is a better solution than using guns.
China raced past for 2 reasons. First is it fully embraced capitalism under Deng Xiaoping (their most brilliant leader) unlike India's half hearted socialist reform measures. Second reason is they were never afraid to develop deep relationships with other countries. China was first a strong ally of the USSR, then the US, and now they are going back to Russia. India was non-aligned the entire time out of fears that others would be "unreliable partners" while China was allying with them, reopening benefits, betraying them and then starting the process with someone else all over again!
Byas river never crosses Pak border as it ends up in Sutlej in Punjab itself This agreement gets discussed incorrectly as was used incorrectly in the beginning. Basically only 5 rivers are involved.
Thanks for describing the latest development on India Pakistan water treaty and disagreements. However I liked the muffler story because this human to human reciprocation reflects sweet bonding that we admire and cherish.
What were the compulsions that drove India to sign IWT when no such agreement exists with China? What would have been the implications of not having the IWT at all? I wish SG had addressed these issues. Earlier podcast by Swami was a total disgrace.
We Did not amended Indus water treaty for 75 years Becoz our fight Was against Pakistan establishment Especially Army ISI Not against People of Pakistan. But now for Economic development of kashmir & India it has to be !! Becoz Pakistan never built Sufficient Dams or reservoirs Most of water from Indus water treaty Is Following to Arabian sea Without its usage for Agriculture & industrial purposes
If IWT is amended to decrease Pak's water flow to 10-20% it will be good for Pakistan itself - floods possibility will decrease. Not to mention Pak doesn't even need so much water. As for India, IWT needs to be changed before Pak becomes part-part into Bakistan. Then we can separately do dealings with Sindhudesh, Balochistan and greater Afghanistan.
Excellent insight in the topic - thank you Shekharji and The Print team 🙏 Another educational episode, that explains the letter and spirit of the agreement along with excerpts of negotiations mediated by World Bank, will serve well the noisy media and half baked public opinion on both sides. My two cents.... Ignoring Pakistan and leaving it to its own fate would be the best. Any act that that gives Pakistan an opportunity to invoke sympathy of Western world or the Arab/Muslim countries, by leveraging it's economic crises, will be counter intuitive.
Nehru was over generous in allocating 80% of water to Pakistan in the Indus Water Treaty of 1960 . Maximum water for Pakistan should have been less than 50%/ India should seek a review in her favour of Indus Water Treaty. But for the present India is taking the right steps well within her rights in the Indus Water Treaty i.e. Stopping totally the waters of River Ravi by constructing Shahpur Kandi Dam and dams on Ravi’s tributaries like River Ujhh and River Basantar . Construction of maximum number of hydro electricity dams / navigational facilities on Rivers Chenab , Jhelum and Indus and also utilising fully ,for irrigation-al / drinking water purposes, India’s small share in these rivers.
If closing the water tap can save numerous lives lost to Paki terrorism, then using the least violent method (tap control) can be seriously considered as a viable option.
@Butterfly your leaders don't have the courage to try a move like that as China will stop your rivers and both countries together will tear you to bits.
1. Lovely CTC, I really wish more and more people especially young watch the CTC and get enlightened. It is unfortunate that our mainstream media no longer have quality programme 2. To improve your reach may I suggest you should do CTC in Hindi also, You will do really a favour 3. Going by the numbers which you mentioned, India's share of water is miniscule compared to Pakistan,'s Did Pakistan had a better of us ??? - Any expert view on this
Basically India has honoured the treaty, it doesn't make sense when you say "both sides have honoured", pak benefits from it and all it has to do is receive, so by default it will abide by it. But here India's action is commendable
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@@premmahto4855 why so ? He explained it without taking any sides and with facts! Tell me what issue you faced I’ll explain you. Don’t comment just for the sake of commenting anything which isn’t in your mental reach!
IWT worked well because it heavily favours Pakistan. On Nehru-Liaqat Pact and Shimla Agreement, Pakistan's record is abysmal.
Bollocks, it suits Bharat as Eastern rivers (most essential for Pakistan) heavily favour Bharat.
@@gangadeshmatakimaut4739 so restart the negotiation. Break this agreement immediately.
@@awanishranjan1814 bolti band ho gayi sale ki lol 😂
@GangaDesh Mata Ki Maut don't worry to much Mr. Pakistan, we will ensure it's more equitable.
@@awanishranjan1814 You should probably watch the video to see why that's not a good idea....
India doesn't even fully utilize its own share of water and leaves most of it for Pak. Yet, over the past 76 years Pak couldn't even develop its own AGRICULTURE and is dependent on foreign aid for food. Their only successful cultivation is PROJECT 72. The latest crop being Peshawar 86 and counting.
Because Pakistan rapidly expanded the canal systems that the British started, which were simply meant to be economically exploitative of the land, give political power to elites and not at all viable in the long term.
There's a pretty good Vox video on it
@@sanatshirwaicar4579 I didn't know about this video, thanks for the recommendation 👍
@@sanatshirwaicar4579 just watched that
@@sanatshirwaicar4579 Would be wary of any info from Vox. Just like any Western media house they are highly pro Pak and anti Indian in their narrative
They were just letting the rivers flow into the Arabian sea as they had Riyasath e Madina in mind..ie get stuck int time warp of 6th century
Jyoti malhotra in one of ur articles was crying about india asking more water in indus waters.
That woman is the most embarrassing reporter in the print. Beyond horrible interviewer, horrendous presenter but most of all it seems like she doesn’t understand anything. I wonder if she has anything on SG and thats why she isnt fired
She's an opinion factory, ignore her , she's 100% emotional content , 0 % content
Her loyalty lies with her cabal (either side of the border) not with India.
she is mata hari.. both in job and character
@@mavking4290 she is a mmoslim supporter so directly she is a ggaz wa hhind supporter..... don't expect anything from her.... for her it is ok if a 55yyrs old mmarry a 9 yyr old .......
There are 6 common types of headaches( tension type, Sinus, migraine, cluster, enchepaliform hemicrania and organic) pakistan is the 7th type
Originally created by British...blame them
@@iamnothing143 Created by Nehru and Jinah. If Nehru Files ever comes out you will know how much corrupt he was and his hatred for hindus.
Britain created, headache for them.
USA supported Pakistan's Bangla Genocide, headache for them.
From India it was created, headache for them.
Neighbour to Iran and Afghans, headache for them.
Baloch, Sindhi, Pashtoon are living in it, headache for them.
Only Pakistani Punjabi is happy.
@@iamnothing143 Created by Indian muslims.
@@iamnothing143 just blame British for everything...
Can you burn water or rock..no
You can only burn charcoal or wood.
Why most terrorist who attack civilization, kidnapp girls on massive level or make sex slave are all from one religion.
Other are not saint but one is definitely devil.
Finally some clarity on this issue. 28 minutes of everything related to water treaty- from history of the treaty, provisions, dams, flow of rivers and then you realise the entire ctc is flowing like a river. Again beautiful presentation SG 👍👌
Dumbest analysis ever on the subject!
The 'hierarchy' of escalation is ALREADY in the treaty! India is not opposing 'Court of Arbitration' because of its injunctive powers but because the treaty explicitly says that the 'Court of Arbitration' could be approached AFTER the 'Neutral expert' process is complete. Pakistan jumped steps by abandoning 'Neutral expert' and going to CoA.
@@omnicurious2949 exactly, they haven't followed the conflict resolution mechanism mentioned in IWT
Pakistan look for Opportunities to violates Shimla Agreement in Letter and Spirit but BECOMES very sensitive when it comes to Indus Water Treaty although it is not violation to renegotiate accordance to new realities.India is interested in small changes which the requirements of modern times.The attitude of Pakistan is difficult to understand and is laughable as it is based on its own insecurities.
@@idbhandari9952 The attitude is NOT at all difficult to understand. Pakistan's DNA is a double-helix strand of Hate-India & Destroy-India. No politician, bureaucrat, military general can justify their role unless they can show their 'awaam' that they inflicted some injury on India.
@@omnicurious2949 write this under their pinned comment
Neheru gited 80% of the water of 6 rivers to Pakistan just to show his secular, Good image 🤣🤣🤣
He was living in fools paradise thinking Pak will side with us against China about a similar issue. He was still under Edwinas spell
@@anilanandkotianhe also thought sheikh Abdullah will support him in Kashmir issue but he betrayed…if he would have dominant from start…India destiny would have changed
Because of secularism but really any Indian would be shocked by treaty 😅
You say both India and Pak honoured the treaty, what responsibilities does downstream party have in a water sharing agreement?
They can install pumps to suck out water but they didn't 😂😂😂
Valid point
@@BasEkKafir😂😂😂
Congress party is the main reason for all the perennial problems faced by India. Permanent membership in UN security council was also missed due to the mistake of Nehru.
India lost a lot of wealth because of the Indus Water Treaty agreement. We should utilise the resources.
India was even offered UNSC position TWICE. Once by the US in 1950, then by USSR in 1955. Both times it turned it down to appease China, only to be invaded by China in 1962 India has generally been overly benevolent to China and overly suspicious of the US (outside of the cold war when they were enemies and this was understandable).
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm Yes, our first PM was weak and lacked sufficient vision and tenacity to guide us through the tricky times. We are still suffering from 200 years of continuous British loot & robbery and the first PM.
Secondly the west conspired to break India in 3 pieces because they feared USSR. and so they installed puppet Pakistan to gain an advantageous geopolitical spot.
No, India was never officially offered a sit on the UNSC. The idea was just floated by some US officials.
No one offered the 5 nations seats on UNSC & the veto power. They grabbed it. Why should India have been given this status as a gift? The truth is Nehru did not want to e even try.
It should b Congress Islamic party.
Times have changed. Water is the most precious resource in the world going forward. This is not 1960 anymore. India should just pull out of treaty and re negotiate it. Pakistan never behaved like a like friendly neighbor in the first place in last 75 years.
And has China ever behaved like a good neighbor with its constant border attacks? The hyper focus on Pakistan is dangerous. Pakistan cannot meaningfully threaten India, China can, and in fact it has many advantages when facing off against India. India has to focus on strengthening itself, whether the old agreements with Pakistan were good or bad isn't that important anymore.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm india needs to wait atleast 20 years. Get par with china gdp then do things on her own merit.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm hello dont worry about us your opinion is by default rejected.
why re negotiate ???? just scrap the treaty ..... no treaty gives more flexibility to india...
Though India can use full water of 3 rivers but still 5 times less than pakistan in entire river system. What kind of treaty is this? Who did it? It's more like khairat to pakistan than a treaty. Is there any way to rectify it and get water atleast 50% of total water
Lord Nehru.
Force to Pakistan to renegotiate by threating that we will pass resolution in our parliament all rivers water are our. Like removal of article 370.
China and India do not have any treaty on the water. So, how is abrogating one treaty can lead to consequences between two parties who do not have any treaty in place. And China when it comes to international laws, it hardly play by the rules. So, pls dont relate one event with another. This is mere fear mongering by you.
Because regardless of whether or not there is a treaty, Pakistan can cry to China at anytime. If India acts against Pakistan, it will have extreme difficulty criticizing China for doing the same thing at international forums. You are right that China never follows rules and always violates agreements, but the reality is they still have far more international influence than India. So far China has tried to dam the Indian rivers but it has also somewhat restrained. Unless India develops strong relationships with partners, it will have to be very cautious not to antagonize China or give them opportunities to go further.
Correct
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm, please note that the rivers entering India from China gain more water after they enter India. India is blessed with monsoons that bring massive amount of water, which stays in India and does not cross Himalayas.So even if China stops these rivers from entering India, these rivers will continue to have abundant water, may be 90% of the original flow.
China has already started to regulate the water coming to India and building huge dams to block the water or flood the area..e g. On Brahmaputra River.
China can do whatever they want , they are not generous like India
I agree with you
Honored by both sides ROFL. Due to its role as a giver and its integrity, India honored even during the war. Pak on the other hand is only a beneficiary. Is there ever a case where a side gets something but says no to it? The expression "both sides honored" doesn't seem appropriate in this context. Now check the situation on Brahamaputra. Does China ever listen to us on the fair sharig of water ? The world just works like this.
China has barely started on the Brahmaputra because China's greatest fear is India might fully enter the US sphere, and the US and India are its long term strategic competitors in the new cold war. However if India is more aggressive on water issues with Pakistan, they will cry to China and China will take advantage of the situation to retaliate with its own extremely aggressive water control. India will have difficulty criticizing this on the international stage if it does something similar to Pakistan. India has to accept that China is its greatest enemy, NOT Pakistan. And India also has to accept that it is at a massive disadvantage vs China in terms of economy and international diplomatic heft. So unless India is willing to strengthen its foreign alliances or wait decades for the power disparity between it and China to shrink, it has to be cautious about how it acts in the region for now. Its important to take a long term view.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm , China can't create water scarcity in Brahmaputra River actually. 70%+ water in Brahmaputra comes from within India, Bhutan.
Problem is, they can flood it by their dame.
However India is building a dame to prevent it.
And USA has no role to play. India survived so far, bad times, without sugar daddy, when USA was supporting Pakistan's Hindu Genocide in Bangladesh.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm lol....water aggregation comes from mountains of Himalayas. Not all water comes from china. Go read geography.
Just because the river begins in India does not mean it belongs to India. Certainly you have the ability to increase it or not but that doesn't you have the right to.
@@Warlock786 You'll see our right soon
Dont say both countries fighting. Say Pakistan fighting.
That is classic SG, he likes portraying the aggressors and victims as equally responsible. Wanting to be seen as unbiased.
@@adm7038 exactly. He is hurting the country’s image by it. The treaty is successful only and only because of India.
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Off everything that we discussed about the Indus water system, the Naga muffler handicraft is the most endearing thing in this CTC
Pakistanis complaint in ICJ: All current of the water has been taken out by Indian Hindus using their dams. This is the reason this water is not producing crops in Pakistan and Pakistan is facing food shortage these days.
India says my river is also your river. Pakistani and china says my river is my river and your river is also is my river. Shekar Gupta , Praveen Sami and rest of gang all approves. Wonderful!!!
Thanks Shekhar ji for decluttering this. Was looking forward to this! And you are right, the regular media just forgot about this...
Dumbest analysis ever on the subject!
The 'hierarchy' of escalation is ALREADY in the treaty! India is not opposing 'Court of Arbitration' because of its injunctive powers but because the treaty explicitly says that the 'Court of Arbitration' could be approached AFTER the 'Neutral expert' process is complete. Pakistan jumped steps by abandoning 'Neutral expert' and going to CoA.
Indian land mass and population is more then 10times then Pakistan and chacha got it distributed at the ratio of 50:50 is absurdly in IWT.
Myself Being a resident of kandi area drained by Ravi and Chenab , I would like to highlight thatanother main factor on the basis of which the partition lines were drawn by Radcliffe committee were the irrigation canals developed during the British times. The regions between these so called eastern rivers known as Bari and Rechna Doab were divided such that very few canals would cross borders. In this time of 60 years Indian side have interlinked the eastern rivers with meagre waters to flow to pak. Considering the bias it’s high time to revisit the treaty now.
Another point is that as we can see in the Shekhar Ji s map Beas is already draining into Sutlej well before it crosses over. So effectively we are only in control of the two rivers out of five draining into pak😅.
Excellent decluttering shekharji as always👍🏼
This ain't news. This is education ❤️
Loved the muffler. Nice gesture from the sender & recipient 👍🏻
Indus water treaty 5 th blunder of Neharu,,
This is what Cut the Clutter is meant to be
Thank you, Shekhar. I have finally understood the complexity of this issue …. very clearly explained. This is where you’re at your best - sharing the large reservoir of knowledge you possess.
Wow 👏 Shekar Ji * News Warrior ?* ❗🤔What a Lovely Gift from Indian 🇮🇳 State of Nagaland Santham Tribe❗Love NE Brothers - Chennai
So the combined volumes of water that flows in the eastern rivers (Beas, Ravi and Sutlej) is only 20% and the remaining is 80% (Indus, chenab and Jhelum).
Still they are so uneducated that they can't even make reservoirs and dams etc. even getting 80 percent they are just doomed
Correction:- Ratle Hydroelectric project is in Kishtwar distrcit of JAMMU, not Kashmir.
One can easily look at the Google maps of the Punjab region to understand the water sharing of rivers. While Ravi and Sutlej appear only as a blue sliver in Pakistan's Punjab, Jhelum, Chenab and Indus look like a thick blue line.
Perhaps time to obliterate the blue sliver? And re look at the thick blue?
Build dams in Ladakh, Lahaul Spiti,Jammu etc divert water to Punjab,Haryana, Rajasthan,Gujarat and UP.
@@santusanturohit4832 the Indira Gandhi canal diverts the water of Sutlej towards Haryana, Rajasthan
@@parvadhami980 Chenab, Jhelum and Indus can be diverted to Satluj and Yamuna. .We can revive Saraswati river..Ship can cruise till Delhi from Prayagraj.
@@parvadhami980 Build more damn and divert more water, Indira gandhi canal is not enough. Punjab , haryana is drying
Treaty honoured by both sides??? Really?
Imagine if even a single river started in Pak and entered india the treaty would hv been broken way earlier.
They have nothing to honour.
You done well SheKhar ji, you took nearly 30 full minutes to tell the whole world that india bad in its intentions. Bravo.
As a Sikh with ancestors from Pakistan I love when Modi puts his foot on the wind pipe of Pakistan.
You mean how the Government of India has beaten you Sikhs into submission?
The only successful think Modi has done is ban our actors and not play cricket with us lol. Because that's the only thing your Modi can do.
@@Warlock786 cricket was banned by Congress (manmohan singh)
@@famousman3714 😂
Sir, at 11:10 nobody would have thought of committee of administrators till you said it 😂😂😂
i know right ! xD
Shekhar is really pissed about the whole BCCI-SC saga lol
@@realhumphreyappleby He isn't. He is just rightfully concerned about what happened before that. The real massacre that India's telecom- the most uprising sector till 2012- faced.
Praveen Swami appeared to be a spokes man of Pakistan. Is he funded by ISI?
He must be one of the aman ki asha journos from India . Shameless guy!!
This guy just doesn't want to give any credit to Modi. All the development has started after 2014. Not once he said anything about it.. Shekhar is a person who silently combs his hair, goes to a voting ballot and presses the congress button.
Thank you for this episode sir.
One thing that I would have liked this episode to elaborate on is how good/fair the IWT is. The reason for that is that I hear many people say that this treaty is highly unfavourable to India and that like everything else Nehru did, is a complete disaster. You touched on this when you told us that India was allowed to use 40 units while Pak gets to have 208. Sadly, you didn't elaborate as to why was this the case.
I love the way Shekhar gupta explains, I loved his show since walk the talk…. Nothing changed now
if BJP managed to do some good change on this matter ... I am gonna vote for Modi in 2024 ...
Done, water of Ravi blocked next is Beas and Sutlej
@@D__Ujjwal good , I am hating raga already the way he is supporting unlawful demands of farmers from Punjab
I was under the impression that Tsangpo is a weak stream which gathers bulk of its water in the flood valley of Assam to turn into Brahmaputra. Hence, damming Tsangpo may not affect water flow of Brahmaputra substantially. Can someone more knowledgable comment on this, please.
Problem there is more about floods than draught. India is building a dam to control the Brahmaputra water levels as well.
10-20% water of Brahmaputra come from Tibet..Dam built by China won't create drought but can create artificial flood if Dragon releases water suddenly.water bomb.China wants to divert water of Brahmaputra,Salwin and Mekong rivers towards Taklamakan and Gobi desert..very ambitious and insane project. .need around 600 billion dollars money and 10-20 years time project
@@santusanturohit4832 yea and i don't understand the anology of Nile and Brahmaputra. Both are very different in nature.
China will not be able to create water shortage in Brahmaputra, but it can reslease even more water in it when it's already flooded and that is the real problem.
It’s not both countries, it’s India who has abided the treaty
When China doesn't have any kind of water treaty with us why should we have a treaty with Pakistan?
1:38 treaty has been honoured by both sides? What exactly could Pakistan do otherwise? India is on upstream side..
One sided instigator of wars is Pakistan and one sided honouror of treaty is India.
Is that what they taught you at school ?
@@Warlock786 no, schools don't care about pakistan apart from the fact that it got separated from India in 1947.
@@nikhilsingh6243 Thats Odd....bollywood and your politician seems to be far mroe involved.
@@Warlock786 yeah politicians are, and they need to be. Our Notorious neighbor need to be kept in check because of the harm it causes to us without any provocation from our side.
@@nikhilsingh6243 Ahh Yes, I forgot how innocent India is.
Well and very well done...loads of Information that only a seasoned Journalist can do..thankyou you ShekarGuptaSir🙏
Shekharji you are a warrior. In today's world a journalist practicing unhifenated journalism is indeed a warrior
Finally a comprehensive review of INDIAN objectives after a botch up by Praveen Swami
Great episode.. The one with praveen swami left a lot to be desired... Gupta ji great to see u guys read the comments and take quick action 👍🏽
I feel print wants to sail on 2 boats. Why wasthat episode so heavily biased with no panelist to speak for the Indian view and that too on an Indian channel. Pakistan cannot be trusted still one thing good that they unapologetically defend their country's stand even if it is wrong by twisting facts. Why Indians feel so obliged to show their graciousness with ppl who don't deserve. Print is being clever in collecting their subscription in the name of unbiased journalism.
@@user-yq9ex7hr1i bhai aisa hain, we are the final customers.... If they try to favour our enemy then they will shut down... See what has happened to wire... They are begging like the pakis and no one with any money watches them 🤑.... Guptaji is not immune to market forces and let's be honest everyone knows which side thier bread is buttered.... Print followers are heavily skewed towards the right side of the political spectrum (at least that's what I get from the comments)... On the other hand And in all honesty guptaji does a commendable job of research and presenting the facts in a simple manner... So I guess we will all live and learn
BLOOD AND WATER CANNOT FLOW TOGETHER...🌊🩸🇮🇳
Don't draw false parallels Shekhar, China has not signed any river water treaty with India, the day its technically feasible the Chinese will not hesitate to build big dams and divert waters
1. Redo the agreement.
2. Break the current agreement if they don't agree to work with us.
3. And perhaps have no agreement just like India has no agreement with China (Tibet).
From Pakistan. What a neutral and honest review of Indus water treaty ❤️. Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
We need 100% share 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
SG sir is so soft on ppl who made this deal, 5 times more for one side. this shows who messed up with our country.
We must not give a drop of water to Dehshatgard Pakistan. We must not forget the terrorists attacks.
Shekhar ji you are indeed a Warrior. The Sangtam tribe scarf sent by Mr Sethrichem Sangtam is apt on you
Chenab i.e. Chandrabhaga is basically a river of Himachal Pradesh. It belongs to HP and has a very small Kashmir connectiom. Chenab's waters should be diverted to Ravi and other Indian rivers including Yamuna.
Excellent way of explanation....learning a lot everyday from your videos...Lots of love for SG 😍
Thanks for unbiased reporting. We need to declutter a lot of issues to live peacefully like good neighbours and forget old enemities for the sake of the betterment of our people. Dialogue is a better solution than using guns.
Great episode worth saving. Thank you.
sir thankyou for elaborating the topic i am from Pakistan and i must say your video is very informative. keep sharing thankyou
It's hard to have a high estimation of people who founded and then led this nation.
No wonder China and SEA raced past.
China raced past for 2 reasons. First is it fully embraced capitalism under Deng Xiaoping (their most brilliant leader) unlike India's half hearted socialist reform measures. Second reason is they were never afraid to develop deep relationships with other countries. China was first a strong ally of the USSR, then the US, and now they are going back to Russia. India was non-aligned the entire time out of fears that others would be "unreliable partners" while China was allying with them, reopening benefits, betraying them and then starting the process with someone else all over again!
Liked before watching for choosing the topic.
Byas river never crosses Pak border as it ends up in Sutlej in Punjab itself This agreement gets discussed incorrectly as was used incorrectly in the beginning. Basically only 5 rivers are involved.
Such a sweet gesture at the end... So gracious 😌
Thanks for describing the latest development on India Pakistan water treaty and disagreements. However I liked the muffler story because this human to human reciprocation reflects sweet bonding that we admire and cherish.
Why is it not uploaded to spotify at the same time as on youtube? We do listen you there.
What? I didn't knew . Ty though
What were the compulsions that drove India to sign IWT when no such agreement exists with China? What would have been the implications of not having the IWT at all? I wish SG had addressed these issues. Earlier podcast by Swami was a total disgrace.
🙏👍👍👍Thank you verymuch Shekarji for the valuable information & updates of News&Views&Analysis ❤
Thank you SG
Thank you for watching...best wishes, Shekhar
Namaskar 🙏🙏 Sir Ji, Jai Free Balochistan, Bharat Mhata Ki Jay, Jai Shree Ram, VandeMatram 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏,
The only reason this treaty lasted this long is because of India. We all know what would have happened if Pakistan was the upper riparian state.
Amazing Gesture 🙏🙏🙏
irony of the print sharing a paywall bypassing link to ET while also asking viewers to subscribe ;)
Heartiest congratulations on the honor. A warrior whose only weapon is a sharp intellect.
We Did not amended Indus water treaty for 75 years Becoz our fight Was against Pakistan establishment Especially Army ISI Not against People of Pakistan.
But now for Economic development of kashmir & India it has to be !!
Becoz Pakistan never built Sufficient Dams or reservoirs
Most of water from Indus water treaty Is Following to Arabian sea Without its usage for Agriculture & industrial purposes
How beautiful is the muffler and the thought behind it ❤️
It's great to have light upon the treaty. Thanks sir
Basically falling ground water level in north India can be solved very easily. The rivers just need to take a detour. 😅
Compressive coverage of this issue. Thanks. The Naga muffler was superb!
When is the cut the clutter coming up on Sonam Wangchuk and Ladakh? @theprint
Shekhar you are the warrior who fights and defeats ignorance and distorted / erroneous perceptions! You completely deserve the muffler!
Modi ji said aaj kuch toofani karteh hai
If IWT is amended to decrease Pak's water flow to 10-20% it will be good for Pakistan itself - floods possibility will decrease. Not to mention Pak doesn't even need so much water.
As for India, IWT needs to be changed before Pak becomes part-part into Bakistan. Then we can separately do dealings with Sindhudesh, Balochistan and greater Afghanistan.
Lol
Excellent insight in the topic - thank you Shekharji and The Print team 🙏
Another educational episode, that explains the letter and spirit of the agreement along with excerpts of negotiations mediated by World Bank, will serve well the noisy media and half baked public opinion on both sides.
My two cents....
Ignoring Pakistan and leaving it to its own fate would be the best. Any act that that gives Pakistan an opportunity to invoke sympathy of Western world or the Arab/Muslim countries, by leveraging it's economic crises, will be counter intuitive.
Nehru was over generous in allocating 80% of water to Pakistan in the Indus Water Treaty of 1960 . Maximum water for Pakistan should have been less than 50%/ India should seek a review in her favour of Indus Water Treaty. But for the present India is taking the right steps well within her rights in the Indus Water Treaty i.e. Stopping totally the waters of River Ravi by constructing Shahpur Kandi Dam and dams on Ravi’s tributaries like River Ujhh and River Basantar . Construction of maximum number of hydro electricity dams / navigational facilities on Rivers Chenab , Jhelum and Indus and also utilising fully ,for irrigation-al / drinking water purposes, India’s small share in these rivers.
Mr. Shekhar, a correction pls- the rivers come from Tibet, not China. Pls state the proper facts!
Thank you for the explanation
Beautiful scarf!
Very well explained sekhar sir...thanx sir 🙏
Among all those words you spoke , the one point that was very sensible was, changing the course of the river is obscene , very right 👍
So is carrying out a campaign of terrorism over many decades.
If closing the water tap can save numerous lives lost to Paki terrorism, then using the least violent method (tap control) can be seriously considered as a viable option.
You can try, you think people haven't thought of it ?
@Butterfly your leaders don't have the courage to try a move like that as China will stop your rivers and both countries together will tear you to bits.
Great
Thank you sir. Very informative.
A perfect explanation.thank you SG. I was really confused what is the issue, until I watched this episodes. Thanks again
WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR WHOLE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH TAKES A LOT OF MONEY AND PROJECTS AND PROBLEMS FOR US. SO INDIA HAVE TO BE UNDERSTANDING.
Another example of the idea that partition was artificial and unnatural.
1. Lovely CTC, I really wish more and more people especially young watch the CTC and get enlightened. It is unfortunate that our mainstream media no longer have quality programme
2. To improve your reach may I suggest you should do CTC in Hindi also, You will do really a favour
3. Going by the numbers which you mentioned, India's share of water is miniscule compared to Pakistan,'s Did Pakistan had a better of us ??? - Any expert view on this
It was worth to wait by killing my sleep to get a round of enlightment :)....thanks Mr Gupta
Thanks SG, that was very well explained
Basically India has honoured the treaty, it doesn't make sense when you say "both sides have honoured", pak benefits from it and all it has to do is receive, so by default it will abide by it.
But here India's action is commendable