@@PrimeVsPrime I knew you weren't, but still a first world nation that could more easily get special figures. It is always good when we get a main line release. To the second point: Like they did with Springer? We might get minor changes and colors and maybe commander price for his full team.
I'm personally not avoiding this, dont wanna make the same mistake of not buying it again. I missed out on the Netflix version so im 100% getting it :D
As someone in a hurry to complete my Skybound shelf, I personally have no issues with getting it since Soundwave isn’t in the list of 2025 figures, and I have no idea what position I will be in two years from now. I’ll either be able to afford an upgrade in 2 years, or won’t and will still have a Soundwave in Generations scale.
I’m also building a Skybound shelf (kinda) I only have wheeljack and jazz and have 86 prime pre ordered. So I’m planning getting this soundwave and maybe that comic edition shockwave and getting 86 devastator and 86 megatron. I’m also probably gonna get either siege or kingdom Magnus or an 86 commander reissue. I’ll also probably get 86 arced and legacy elita 1.
I went with the Nemesis version of Soundwave... The reason being is it looks like different plastic. The Legacy one looks like it's using the same plastic that the Netflix one used, that turned yellow/brown.
@@PrimeVsPrime Tell me about it... Not just Soundwave either... I had both releases of Blaster, (Kingdom/Legacy) and they yellowed/browned too! I picked up the 86 Blaster that looks like it's also using slightly different plastic. I really wish we knew exactly what made the old plastic turn brown... As an experiment, I was able to retrobright Kingdom Blaster, and some of my other bots that browned... It worked for a short time.... then they turned yellow/brown again.. I'm hoping to get my hands on the re-release of Origins Cybertron Bumblebee because he's also browning too! I was able to retrobright it, but it shortly went back to the brown color.. :/ My Hauler figure is turning into brown lettuce green spots as well. :/ OH and don't get me started on both releases of Cyclonus :(..
@@DisconnectHack I compared the two, it's a different shade of plastic. It's more white than grayish white. It's definitely not the same colored.plastic for the gray parts. The gray parts are not painted. Only the forearms, and those never discolored, other than the swing out gun bits mounded on them.
Ive just come to accept it at this point. At this point, Leader either means slightly bigger figure, or Voyager+ with extra accessories, like we’re seeing here. They can keep it under the same price points already in most stores. My local Walmart doesn’t even have the shelf for Commander Class figures, nor Titans. Not even the retro reissue figures anymore. (I miss Toys R Us so much 😢)
@@PrimeVsPrimeexactly. Its not bad per say, but we’re already awaiting what will likely be a better figure, so this one’s time in the sun seems to be waning really fast.
I have the Siege weird spaceship Soundwave but haven’t gotten a tape deck one yet. That said, they will definitely do an 86 Soundwave so I’ll probably wait for him. However I really want those tapes !! Crap, I think they got me….
Like SS86 Optimus, I expect SS86 Soundwave to look incredible but be too overly complex for my taste. Just as I'm sticking with the Earthrise Optimus mold because of the simpler transformation, I'll probably be sticking with the Netflix Soundwave mold for the same reason.
First of all, the real selling point to me is the cassettes, since I already have the Netflix Soundwave, and mine hasn't yellowed anywhere that much. Yes, I agree, it's very likely we'll get a Studio Series version of Soundwave, but it's also possible, looking at that Studio Series Blaster you love, which is a straight repaint of the Kingdom Blaster, that an SS86 Soundwave will be the same. But who can say if Studio Series will release a Buzzsaw -- who was not in the movie -- let alone a toy accurate Frenzy? Especially since the Core class releases seem to be tapering off outside of pack-ins. Better safe then sorry if the cassettes matter to you.
Also he actually scales not too bad. He's always been smaller unless they got cheap and re-tooled an awkward mold in which collectors complained then too.
I agree. If you can wait or if you are in a tight budget, wait for the SS86 release (you may even see huge discount since it's close to the holidays. But if you're me and you've been salivating to get your 1st cassette version of Soundwave, then order to your heart's desire. 😅
@@PrimeVsPrimeI disagree with you, I doubt they will. And even if they release a 86 one I have a feeling it's just going to be a recolor of this one or a retool of this one. Especially since with 86 Blaster they just recolored him.
I remember not knowing he was a hard to find figure for the Netflix show. But I remember finding him before my graduation (class 2021) and Walmart said he costed like $20, but when I went to check him out, he was $40. I still bought him and watching videos of people saying he was hard to find. And to this day I still have him, but with some yellowing
That was similar to my experience. He was the only one on the shelves worth a damn to me at that point and I picked him up for full price. I most definitely am going to get this figure for the additional minibots but the main figure I already have.
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It's not just sunlight that causes plastic yellowing, it's heat. That's why the sun causes it in the first place, cuz of the heat. So if a room is hot too, it'll happen
I bought this a couple days ago, it's the only Soundwave I have other than MP Soundwave lol and IMO this is the best version of Soundwave from the WFC/Netflix/Core. I love the G1 colors and the only thing I don't really like is the arm pieces that are used in the WFC transformation
Companies back in the day: "We're terribly sorry for the defective plastic on your product. Please send it in and we'll replace it with one of these re-releases at no charge." Companies nowdays: Ignores customer compaints about shoddy, yellowing product and expects them to spend leader class price to replace their defective product. No trade-in, no half off coupon, no apology. Nothing. Oh, but also make this reissue the only way to get Buzzsaw. That'll show those peasants!
Completely agree with you! It was such bad business for them not to release an official statement recalling any affected products. They are just mainly worried about the $$$
And then they'll make you buy the SS86 figure in a few years just to get Laserbeak, because including Buzzsaw in a Soundblaster rerelease would have made too much sense.
@@giovonniiclayton Hell no, I only buy MP scale or 3rd party. Hasbro has burned me too much!! I don't purchase Mainline! Except a few, like SS core class Mohawk! That fig is awesome! Other than that, I usually scoff at their recent cheap (quality) releases!
I pre-order mine regardless. I get what you say about re-releases but within that time there's been so many re-releases there's been like zero for this mold so that's telling. Grab him on PO while you can, they never EVER go all in with distribution on Soundwave in particular.
What's nuts is you needed to get BOTH the Netflix release and this to get Earth Laserbeak and Buzzsaw together. Fortunately, I did. And I need a spare Soundwave to represent on both 84 and 86 shelves. No worries about the height. He's usually been shorter than Blaster. I'm going to be too busy replacing Megatron and Devastator next year.
Possibly an unpopular opinion but this has always been one of my favourite soundwave iterations. Nice transformation. Every element is nice. Maybe feet could be better. But other than that. Spot on.
Great review PrimeVsPrime!! As great as SS86 Soundwave might be, I'd first buy a core class individual Buzzsaw figure first and foremost! :D Keep on being amazing.
I'm confused that you didn't really get into the two main problems with this mold (that were exaggerated in the Nemesis Bridge version): the very dark eyes when light is directly shining in them and the A-frame stance (his legs won't push together). Both are shown in the review and are the main reasons I'm thinking of sitting this one out (an SS86 Soundwave is more than a year away and isn't really factoring into my thoughts).
They'll do an SS86, and it should fix those forearms. I'll wait for that. Heck, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do a second SS86 Starscream, non-coronation, where they do more than just recycle the Earthrise mold.
Watch, in 2026 we'll get a SS86 40th anniversary Commander Class Blaster (probably a minor retool of the Kingdom/Legacy mold) with all four cassettes in solid plastic.
I wouldn’t want to say anything negative but there are some WFC Trilogy figures that got remolded into the Legacy line and those Legacy figures got remolded into the SS86 line. For an example: Blaster was a WFC Kingdom toy and he was rereleased to the Legacy line and then he was rereleased into the SS86 line using the exact same mold, the upcoming 86 Galvatron might be next but with a bluish purple color.
@@zimbats3775 the SS86 figure might be the exact same as this release but the cassette slot might be full on plastic instead of it being transparent plastic.
I like the Siege figure. He's a good 'Cybertronian combat mode' or something, with him being covered in blasters and having a space bomber alt mode. But I'd like to get an Earth mode Soundwave as well.
The seeker mold needs an upgrade more badly. But this isnt far behind, the upgraded ss86 version better just have all the cassettes and as you pointed out, an improved ravage as he looks nothing like his cartoon counterpart.
Great figure, but I was honestly hoping for a Legacy TFP or TFA Soundwave. Or a blend (kind of like what they did with Prowl and Bulkhead). In any case TFA Soundwave deserves a way larger figure (preferably in scale with Bulkhead). But this figure is tempting enough to buy…
Here’s one thing you can do, take the buzzsaw from this set and the siege laserbeak, and swap the heads, that way you have an earth mode laserbeak for soundwave, and a cybertronian buzzsaw for siege soundblaster
My guess is he'll either be a slight repaint or a Blaster retool. But you can bet that the chest door will be opaque so you can't actually see what casette is inside him, because Hasbro hates fun.
Quick question Prime does it take a while for the pre order to arrive cause I've been waiting for about 1 months going on 2 months and I have no clue what to do
I ordered this when it first dropped specifically for the cassettes. I already have a version of this mold from the nemesis bridge set, and this is pretty much the same (except that here the lightpiping works, yay!). However, I don't have Ravage and I really want Buzzsaw. The Rumble is also neat and even though his colors are cool I do still prefer the original lighter colors so I think I'll have to come up with a new alias for this toy-accurate Rumble. Hear me out though... commander class Soundwave with completely filled-out limbs, premium paint, and EVERY cassette - Lazerbeak, Buzzsaw, Ravage, Rumble, Frenzy, Enemy, Ratbat, Wingthing, Beastbox, Squawktalk, autoscout, and 2 little cassette-sized box thingies that can actually play the radio that you can put in his and Blaster's chests. Also a TON of energon cubes.
the inevitable 86 version and price point means it will eventually be dethroned. if you like the figure there's nothing wrong with getting it, but don't be surprised when a better version comes around within a year or two.
Definitely buying this. I was one of the lucky ones to get a netflix soundwave but mine has yellowed really bad over the years. Crazy how it’s been so long already!
Ultimately Buzzsaw’s making this a necessary purchase. Question though: how well does this Soundwave hold together in alt mode? Did it feel any different from the Netflix one? I got the Nemesis Bridge set and that Soundwave feels awful, and the tabs in alt mode don’t hold right
I actually really like this figure a lot. Making a previously near-impossible figure part of the mainline is something i can respect. Its a 35 dollar figure with 20 dollars worth of accessories. The price makes sense in this day and age.
Sold off my spare Netflix one to make way for this as this has a better paint job as got the gold trim on the chest instead of yellow paint & also the red trim on the cannon/gun - neither of my Netflix ones had that yellowing plastic.
Yeah, had this guy on preorder for a but now. I’d buy it for the cassettes alone. Also, this is the exact same Soundwave that came in the Nemesis Bridge Dramatic Capture set that you said was awesome.
Awesome review! I will probably be getting it in the future since I don't have that mold and want it mostly for ravage. When will you be doing a SS 113 BM Skywarp review??
I got the dramatic capture Soundwave from Takara but I have to pick this pack up for the Buzzsaw . I'll be keeping buzzsaw and selling off the rest in this leader class pack
In your opinion, what would be a good Soundwave to buy if it's your first time buying one? Also, in terms of compatibility, what cassettes to buy alongside it if its part of a series, if that makes sense
Very fortunately, although my Netflix Soundwave has yellowed it hasn't to the degree of PrimeVsPrime's so I don't need to replace it, but if you're a collector who likes the WFC collection and you missed him the first time around he's a good shot at a second chance.
We’ll definitely get an 86 Soundwave in 2026, but in the meantime this is a solid purchase- it’s a solid deco, comes with a Rumble for those who previously missed out on the 86 Core release, and the first Buzzsaw we’ve seen in a while. But if you’re willing to wait another two years for a better version, I’d hold off.
The main reason I'd get this one would be for Buzzsaw and only if it's at a discount. Hopefully most people are waiting for a SS86 version and the price will drop a bit. I was lucky enough to get a Netflix version at the time and went through the trouble of collecting the other cassettes, I'm happy with the siege versions of Rumble and Frenzy so I gave the SS86 versions a pass (though they are cool.) I think they should have used the Siege version of Frenzy for this pack since that one's actually meant to go with this Soundwave.
I’m definitely gonna wait for a SS86 version of Soundwave for sure and I’m hoping that they’ll also improve Ravage and have him sold as a core class figure Side note/idea - I think Ravage and Rumble should be sold together as a double pack to complete the “No way, 2 can play” scene from the ‘86 movie and I’m sure if Soundwave is going to be released under the ‘86 line then I’m sure Laserbeak will be included
You said an SS86 version will probably come in the future, which makes me think that they should have made this guy more toy-accurate(yellow visor and a new toy-based head) to set him apart from that future version. Especially since he comes with Buzzsaw, like the G1 toy, and Rumble is toy-based too.
The rumors of core class disappearing have me concerned that we won’t get laserbeak and ravage in standalone ss86 releases and they’ll pack them in with the new mold that is DEFINITELY coming in ‘26. That being said, i sold my netflix soundwave earlier this year in anticipation for this so i’m going to buy it to fill that gap in my shelf, and can always sell it at a loss when ss86 drops
I'll have to see in person. I passed on both soundwave and blaster cause I got sound blaster and Twincast. This soundwaves alt mode is different enough to warrant a rebuy on top of I don't have rumble, nor buzzsaw and g1 ravage. Strangely thou the yellowing on your Netflix SW does make him look era appropriate lol littley all items from the 70s and early 80s had that type of color on them lol
Do you think the new SS86 release will have cassettes? If so plz lmk bc I’m really caving into buying this release just bc it comes with the full package.
I could accept that they reused the Siege mold, but for the leader price point I would have preferred improvements such as gap filers, a rotation for the hand and articulated fingers a little.Improvement on general joints and less details to recall the g1 model, the cassettes are quite good even if (always for the leader price point) I would have preferred a bicep joint for Rumble
Will you be skipping this in favour of the inevitable SS86 version?!🤔
Absolutely not
I dont know. Might pick it up because of the g1 rumble and buzzsaw
SS86, I hope they make a new version. 🙏 A 86 Voyager Soundwave with one of his minions. 🙏
depends if its a new mold i might get one
Yup. Once a proper ‘86 Soundwave is released with ‘86 Rabat, my yellowed Netflix one will be retired
Transformer toy reviewer "do a video about Soundwave without making a 'superior/inferior' joke" challenge (impossible).
You might as well not drop his name in the review lol
I will not avoid because I missed out on the first one
Just wait for the superior 86 figure
What will you do in 1-2 years time when they bring out a much better SS86 version?🤔
@@gaminuz0191 i’m not waiting for studio series bs especially after steeljaw
@@PrimeVsPrime who said I can’t buy both
@@PrimeVsPrimeBuy that one too
No matter when the day of SS86 Soundwave comes in a next two years, I'm still picking this guy up
Hasbro will never stop going back to the well. There's always going to be a better(er) release later but, it does'nt change what past ones got right.
The next release will not include all three cassettes at a reasonable price.
😂 you must have a lot of money to throw away.
I’m still getting him because my Earthrise Netflix Soundwave is so badly yellowed and I want Buzzsaw.
Fair enough mate! Thanks for watching!🙏🏻
Yours is yellow but mines is still mint … keep out of the light/sun
@@mrs.romansdelight4091 no shit sherlock. he was at the darkest corner of my shelf. That cheap plastic yellows with age. Same for Earthrise Megs.
@@mrs.romansdelight4091 yeah he was. Didn’t matter it still yellowed along with Earthrise Megatron.
Same, mine is in a UV shielded room, I post process resin prints in there, in a non-smoking hour and it still went green. So this is a def for me.
Some of us live in NOT America, and Netflix figures were difficult to impossible to get, so a main line release will be our first chance.
I don’t live in America either. Whilst I think this is a great figure, I’m certain they’ll come out with an all new one in 2026 for the 86 movie 🤷🏼♂️
@@PrimeVsPrime I knew you weren't, but still a first world nation that could more easily get special figures. It is always good when we get a main line release. To the second point: Like they did with Springer? We might get minor changes and colors and maybe commander price for his full team.
I'm personally not avoiding this, dont wanna make the same mistake of not buying it again. I missed out on the Netflix version so im 100% getting it :D
As someone in a hurry to complete my Skybound shelf, I personally have no issues with getting it since Soundwave isn’t in the list of 2025 figures, and I have no idea what position I will be in two years from now. I’ll either be able to afford an upgrade in 2 years, or won’t and will still have a Soundwave in Generations scale.
My Netflix version is yellow so totally agree. I'm not fussed about waiting anymore for ss86 way down the line so will pick this guy up.
I’m also building a Skybound shelf (kinda) I only have wheeljack and jazz and have 86 prime pre ordered. So I’m planning getting this soundwave and maybe that comic edition shockwave and getting 86 devastator and 86 megatron. I’m also probably gonna get either siege or kingdom Magnus or an 86 commander reissue. I’ll also probably get 86 arced and legacy elita 1.
I went with the Nemesis version of Soundwave... The reason being is it looks like different plastic. The Legacy one looks like it's using the same plastic that the Netflix one used, that turned yellow/brown.
I think you may be right! I really hope they’ve fixed the yellowing issue. If not then that SUCKS!
@@PrimeVsPrime Tell me about it... Not just Soundwave either... I had both releases of Blaster, (Kingdom/Legacy) and they yellowed/browned too! I picked up the 86 Blaster that looks like it's also using slightly different plastic. I really wish we knew exactly what made the old plastic turn brown... As an experiment, I was able to retrobright Kingdom Blaster, and some of my other bots that browned... It worked for a short time.... then they turned yellow/brown again.. I'm hoping to get my hands on the re-release of Origins Cybertron Bumblebee because he's also browning too! I was able to retrobright it, but it shortly went back to the brown color.. :/ My Hauler figure is turning into brown lettuce green spots as well. :/ OH and don't get me started on both releases of Cyclonus :(..
The Dramatic Capture version uses the same type of plastic, except they are fully painted
@@DisconnectHack I compared the two, it's a different shade of plastic. It's more white than grayish white. It's definitely not the same colored.plastic for the gray parts. The gray parts are not painted. Only the forearms, and those never discolored, other than the swing out gun bits mounded on them.
Already pre-ordered, not going to risk missing out again.
Him: *Tells me to Avoid*
Me: “No, I don’t think I will.”
I can’t believe Hasbro has the audacity to sell a 35$ figure with 20$ worth of accessories for 55$
Do you want them to sell the 20$ of Accessoires for free to you?
Ive just come to accept it at this point. At this point, Leader either means slightly bigger figure, or Voyager+ with extra accessories, like we’re seeing here. They can keep it under the same price points already in most stores. My local Walmart doesn’t even have the shelf for Commander Class figures, nor Titans. Not even the retro reissue figures anymore.
(I miss Toys R Us so much 😢)
@@LadiesMan2I7_ I believe he was being sarcastic..
@@LadiesMan2I7_ what?
That would be the reason to pass on this set.
Ngl I was expecting the intro to theme and opening skit to be more negative lmao
😆 it’s a good figure, but I just think it will be very quickly replaced one they bring out an 86 version
@@PrimeVsPrimeexactly. Its not bad per say, but we’re already awaiting what will likely be a better figure, so this one’s time in the sun seems to be waning really fast.
I have the Siege weird spaceship Soundwave but haven’t gotten a tape deck one yet. That said, they will definitely do an 86 Soundwave so I’ll probably wait for him. However I really want those tapes !! Crap, I think they got me….
They might make individual core class releases or even a set of cassettes for both blaster and Soundwave so I'd wait. But I am also very loyal to ss
I really want a Studio Series 86 Soundwave already
Go make it then
believe me, I would if I could
Like SS86 Optimus, I expect SS86 Soundwave to look incredible but be too overly complex for my taste. Just as I'm sticking with the Earthrise Optimus mold because of the simpler transformation, I'll probably be sticking with the Netflix Soundwave mold for the same reason.
First of all, the real selling point to me is the cassettes, since I already have the Netflix Soundwave, and mine hasn't yellowed anywhere that much. Yes, I agree, it's very likely we'll get a Studio Series version of Soundwave, but it's also possible, looking at that Studio Series Blaster you love, which is a straight repaint of the Kingdom Blaster, that an SS86 Soundwave will be the same. But who can say if Studio Series will release a Buzzsaw -- who was not in the movie -- let alone a toy accurate Frenzy? Especially since the Core class releases seem to be tapering off outside of pack-ins. Better safe then sorry if the cassettes matter to you.
Also he actually scales not too bad. He's always been smaller unless they got cheap and re-tooled an awkward mold in which collectors complained then too.
Yes! The G1 one has return with buzzsaw Rumble and ravage!
Buzzsaw is pretty cool!
The best thing about the buzzsaw is that if you wanted laserbeak, just use your imagination and pretend it’s lazerbeak
SOUNDWAVE SUPERIORR! 🗣️‼️‼️
@@Guuaco autobots inferior
I agree. If you can wait or if you are in a tight budget, wait for the SS86 release (you may even see huge discount since it's close to the holidays.
But if you're me and you've been salivating to get your 1st cassette version of Soundwave, then order to your heart's desire. 😅
ALSO, if you missed out on the Netflix Soundwave (like me) this is gud.
It is, but this mould is now 4 years old. They are 100% gonna make a new one for SS86
@@PrimeVsPrime In a few years, some people don’t want to wait that long
@@PrimeVsPrimeI disagree with you, I doubt they will. And even if they release a 86 one I have a feeling it's just going to be a recolor of this one or a retool of this one. Especially since with 86 Blaster they just recolored him.
@@ashtonarroyo5487thinking that one of the most popular of the cast wont get a new mold for ss86 is crazy..
@@ashtonarroyo5487not to mention earthrise starscream also got retooled for 86 coronation starscream a few years back
I remember not knowing he was a hard to find figure for the Netflix show. But I remember finding him before my graduation (class 2021) and Walmart said he costed like $20, but when I went to check him out, he was $40. I still bought him and watching videos of people saying he was hard to find. And to this day I still have him, but with some yellowing
That was similar to my experience. He was the only one on the shelves worth a damn to me at that point and I picked him up for full price. I most definitely am going to get this figure for the additional minibots but the main figure I already have.
I will not avoid because soundwave is my favorite transformer
As a collector, I picked it up and I will pick up a studio series as well. Never skip on a figure you don't have just for hoping of something else.
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It's not just sunlight that causes plastic yellowing, it's heat. That's why the sun causes it in the first place, cuz of the heat. So if a room is hot too, it'll happen
This makes sense to me. Mine is in the dark yet it still yellowed.
I bought this a couple days ago, it's the only Soundwave I have other than MP Soundwave lol and IMO this is the best version of Soundwave from the WFC/Netflix/Core. I love the G1 colors and the only thing I don't really like is the arm pieces that are used in the WFC transformation
I would rather have a Missing Link Soundwave. The G1 is still such a great mold.
I don't mind waiting for an SS86 version. It's the reason I held off on the Earthrise Optimus reissue.
Companies back in the day: "We're terribly sorry for the defective plastic on your product. Please send it in and we'll replace it with one of these re-releases at no charge."
Companies nowdays: Ignores customer compaints about shoddy, yellowing product and expects them to spend leader class price to replace their defective product. No trade-in, no half off coupon, no apology. Nothing. Oh, but also make this reissue the only way to get Buzzsaw. That'll show those peasants!
Completely agree with you! It was such bad business for them not to release an official statement recalling any affected products. They are just mainly worried about the $$$
And then they'll make you buy the SS86 figure in a few years just to get Laserbeak, because including Buzzsaw in a Soundblaster rerelease would have made too much sense.
@@smittzero8463and geewunners will eat it all up
@@PrimeVsPrimebecause buying your own paint is cheaper than customer service lmao
@@giovonniiclayton Hell no, I only buy MP scale or 3rd party. Hasbro has burned me too much!! I don't purchase Mainline! Except a few, like SS core class Mohawk! That fig is awesome! Other than that, I usually scoff at their recent cheap (quality) releases!
I pre-order mine regardless. I get what you say about re-releases but within that time there's been so many re-releases there's been like zero for this mold so that's telling. Grab him on PO while you can, they never EVER go all in with distribution on Soundwave in particular.
What's nuts is you needed to get BOTH the Netflix release and this to get Earth Laserbeak and Buzzsaw together.
Fortunately, I did. And I need a spare Soundwave to represent on both 84 and 86 shelves.
No worries about the height. He's usually been shorter than Blaster.
I'm going to be too busy replacing Megatron and Devastator next year.
Possibly an unpopular opinion but this has always been one of my favourite soundwave iterations. Nice transformation. Every element is nice. Maybe feet could be better. But other than that. Spot on.
Sold my Netflix version last week, and bought the dramatic scene set instead. Much better all around.
Dramatic Capture is really nice!
I’m still getting him regardless, I still only have siege soundwave after 5 years and SG soundwave
Great review PrimeVsPrime!! As great as SS86 Soundwave might be, I'd first buy a core class individual Buzzsaw figure first and foremost! :D Keep on being amazing.
Thanks so much mate!🙏🏻🔥
@@PrimeVsPrime You're welcome my friend!! 😎👍
I'm confused that you didn't really get into the two main problems with this mold (that were exaggerated in the Nemesis Bridge version): the very dark eyes when light is directly shining in them and the A-frame stance (his legs won't push together). Both are shown in the review and are the main reasons I'm thinking of sitting this one out (an SS86 Soundwave is more than a year away and isn't really factoring into my thoughts).
Yes the one review I been waiting for thanks for reviewing him primevsprime love your channel keep up your amazing work
Thanks so much for watching!
They'll do an SS86, and it should fix those forearms. I'll wait for that. Heck, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do a second SS86 Starscream, non-coronation, where they do more than just recycle the Earthrise mold.
I'm gonna pick this guy, just because I don't have the Netflix version.
Fair enough mate! Thanks for watching!
@@PrimeVsPrimesame here. I had the weird jet sound wave that I sold off
can't wait for an 86 shockwave!
Watch, in 2026 we'll get a SS86 40th anniversary Commander Class Blaster (probably a minor retool of the Kingdom/Legacy mold) with all four cassettes in solid plastic.
Completely agree! Wouldn’t surprise me at all! Lol
I wouldn’t want to say anything negative but there are some WFC Trilogy figures that got remolded into the Legacy line and those Legacy figures got remolded into the SS86 line. For an example: Blaster was a WFC Kingdom toy and he was rereleased to the Legacy line and then he was rereleased into the SS86 line using the exact same mold, the upcoming 86 Galvatron might be next but with a bluish purple color.
Galvatron for studio series is confirmed to be a repaint of the legacy one so that’s my justification to buying this Soundwave
@@zimbats3775 I might buy this Soundwave this week, I don’t care if SS86 figure will be announced because I’ll already have this one.
@@zimbats3775 the SS86 figure might be the exact same as this release but the cassette slot might be full on plastic instead of it being transparent plastic.
I have the Siege version. I know it's divisive and not G1 accurate. But I like him and don't really have a desire for another.
I like the Siege figure. He's a good 'Cybertronian combat mode' or something, with him being covered in blasters and having a space bomber alt mode. But I'd like to get an Earth mode Soundwave as well.
@@smittzero8463 Fair enough.
The seeker mold needs an upgrade more badly. But this isnt far behind, the upgraded ss86 version better just have all the cassettes and as you pointed out, an improved ravage as he looks nothing like his cartoon counterpart.
0:15 "You sorry excuse of a sound-system"
Great figure, but I was honestly hoping for a Legacy TFP or TFA Soundwave. Or a blend (kind of like what they did with Prowl and Bulkhead). In any case TFA Soundwave deserves a way larger figure (preferably in scale with Bulkhead). But this figure is tempting enough to buy…
"Soundwave superior! Autobots inferior!"
Here’s one thing you can do, take the buzzsaw from this set and the siege laserbeak, and swap the heads, that way you have an earth mode laserbeak for soundwave, and a cybertronian buzzsaw for siege soundblaster
If hasbro ever makes a 86 sound wave you think this will be a repaint
I think they’ll make a brand new figure for sure!
My guess is he'll either be a slight repaint or a Blaster retool. But you can bet that the chest door will be opaque so you can't actually see what casette is inside him, because Hasbro hates fun.
Cause Hasbro likes money and limited effort, possibly
Opinions: This Soundwave or the Retro 40th Anniversary Soundwave? I hate how they did the back of this one, but I like everything else.
After this review, I think I might skip this and go for the comic book edition Grimlock instead
CE Grimlock is wicked! 🤩
I ain't avoidin' SHIT. If it's a Soundwave toy, it's going in my collection.
Fair enough haha! 🤩
Im going to try to get this AND soudblaster so I can give him buzzsaw
I like that you slowed down the transformations. 👍🏿
Thanks for noticing mate!🙏🏻
Yes i like Soundwave
He is SUPERIOR!
Yes 👍
Quick question Prime does it take a while for the pre order to arrive cause I've been waiting for about 1 months going on 2 months and I have no clue what to do
Honestly I hope they do a SS86 Megatron but I doubt they would because of the gun mode tbh
They are definitely making Megatron. I do wonder if they’ll choose a tank or a blaster tho!
it was confirmed by Evan that megatron will be a tank
A tank alt mode is much better for Megatron anyway.
@@lsv4898 im new to the hobby so who’s Evan? Are they a leaker or an ambassador kind of person?
@@smittzero8463 agreed tbh, it just fits his character better especially if he doesn’t adopt a human tank form
I’m not going to avoid because this is a really good figure
86 Brawn and Ratchet two pack when?
I’m not actually too sure I’m afraid 🥲
I saw several in Target two days ago...
@@TheActs2021 me too
I ordered this when it first dropped specifically for the cassettes. I already have a version of this mold from the nemesis bridge set, and this is pretty much the same (except that here the lightpiping works, yay!). However, I don't have Ravage and I really want Buzzsaw. The Rumble is also neat and even though his colors are cool I do still prefer the original lighter colors so I think I'll have to come up with a new alias for this toy-accurate Rumble.
Hear me out though... commander class Soundwave with completely filled-out limbs, premium paint, and EVERY cassette - Lazerbeak, Buzzsaw, Ravage, Rumble, Frenzy, Enemy, Ratbat, Wingthing, Beastbox, Squawktalk, autoscout, and 2 little cassette-sized box thingies that can actually play the radio that you can put in his and Blaster's chests. Also a TON of energon cubes.
Why does this title say avoid?
the inevitable 86 version and price point means it will eventually be dethroned.
if you like the figure there's nothing wrong with getting it, but don't be surprised when a better version comes around within a year or two.
Definitely buying this. I was one of the lucky ones to get a netflix soundwave but mine has yellowed really bad over the years. Crazy how it’s been so long already!
0:36 good lord I thought my soundwave yellowing was bad.
Ultimately Buzzsaw’s making this a necessary purchase. Question though: how well does this Soundwave hold together in alt mode? Did it feel any different from the Netflix one? I got the Nemesis Bridge set and that Soundwave feels awful, and the tabs in alt mode don’t hold right
I actually really like this figure a lot. Making a previously near-impossible figure part of the mainline is something i can respect. Its a 35 dollar figure with 20 dollars worth of accessories. The price makes sense in this day and age.
I’m just waiting for the SS86 version! Soundwave needs a brand spanking new mold!
For me it's possible to get the Shattered Glass Version or This, which one in youre Opinion is more worth 70 bucks ?
Sold off my spare Netflix one to make way for this as this has a better paint job as got the gold trim on the chest instead of yellow paint & also the red trim on the cannon/gun - neither of my Netflix ones had that yellowing plastic.
Yeah, had this guy on preorder for a but now. I’d buy it for the cassettes alone. Also, this is the exact same Soundwave that came in the Nemesis Bridge Dramatic Capture set that you said was awesome.
Good review, loved how you said avoid in the title… I rather save 300 and get a mp soundwave with all of the cassets. Also, WOW… ( 5:05 )
@PrimevsPrime Why didn't you buy it with the Soundwave from the Nemesis Bridge Pack?
Shockwave needs the cable to be able to hook in correctly in 'submarine' mode. A new Cliffjumper, Bumper, and Hubcap would be good too.
Awesome review! I will probably be getting it in the future since I don't have that mold and want it mostly for ravage. When will you be doing a SS 113 BM Skywarp review??
Thanks for watching! Hopefully by the end of the week!🤩
@PrimeVsPrime awesome! I can't wait!
Man this figure rocks!
I got the dramatic capture Soundwave from Takara but I have to pick this pack up for the Buzzsaw . I'll be keeping buzzsaw and selling off the rest in this leader class pack
I'm gonna get him because I love the siege/earthrise Ravage mold, and I want another Soundwave for my horde
I just need him because hes so cool, i want him in my room 😭 awesome vid! Buuut i cabt wait
im getting this definitely
I always swore I’d keep to the legacy year one version, but a figure once so rare coming back with *more* cassettes? Makes it hard to resist.
In your opinion, what would be a good Soundwave to buy if it's your first time buying one? Also, in terms of compatibility, what cassettes to buy alongside it if its part of a series, if that makes sense
Do you think this new rerelease or the one that came with the bridge Commander three pack, Will Yellow as much as the original release did ?
1:02, the Decepticon symbol, some said it was made from Soundwave's head.
Very fortunately, although my Netflix Soundwave has yellowed it hasn't to the degree of PrimeVsPrime's so I don't need to replace it, but if you're a collector who likes the WFC collection and you missed him the first time around he's a good shot at a second chance.
Dang the metallic looks so good too
I have the Year of the Goat Soundwave. I'm going to hold out for the SS86 release.
I forsee so many returns of this set with a swapped out Buzzsaw once this hits shelves.
We’ll definitely get an 86 Soundwave in 2026, but in the meantime this is a solid purchase- it’s a solid deco, comes with a Rumble for those who previously missed out on the 86 Core release, and the first Buzzsaw we’ve seen in a while.
But if you’re willing to wait another two years for a better version, I’d hold off.
Hmm you’re probably right I’d be better waiting for Studio. But my compulsive instincts are still trying to click the buy button 😮
So wierd they called this color scheme Rumble when the OG toy was and has always been released as Frenzy.
You gotta love the legs on soundwave looks a lot more retro than the legacy soundwave that I have😮😮😮
The main reason I'd get this one would be for Buzzsaw and only if it's at a discount. Hopefully most people are waiting for a SS86 version and the price will drop a bit.
I was lucky enough to get a Netflix version at the time and went through the trouble of collecting the other cassettes, I'm happy with the siege versions of Rumble and Frenzy so I gave the SS86 versions a pass (though they are cool.)
I think they should have used the Siege version of Frenzy for this pack since that one's actually meant to go with this Soundwave.
I’m definitely gonna wait for a SS86 version of Soundwave for sure and I’m hoping that they’ll also improve Ravage and have him sold as a core class figure
Side note/idea - I think Ravage and Rumble should be sold together as a double pack to complete the “No way, 2 can play” scene from the ‘86 movie and I’m sure if Soundwave is going to be released under the ‘86 line then I’m sure Laserbeak will be included
You said an SS86 version will probably come in the future, which makes me think that they should have made this guy more toy-accurate(yellow visor and a new toy-based head) to set him apart from that future version.
Especially since he comes with Buzzsaw, like the G1 toy, and Rumble is toy-based too.
The rumors of core class disappearing have me concerned that we won’t get laserbeak and ravage in standalone ss86 releases and they’ll pack them in with the new mold that is DEFINITELY coming in ‘26. That being said, i sold my netflix soundwave earlier this year in anticipation for this so i’m going to buy it to fill that gap in my shelf, and can always sell it at a loss when ss86 drops
I'll have to see in person. I passed on both soundwave and blaster cause I got sound blaster and Twincast. This soundwaves alt mode is different enough to warrant a rebuy on top of I don't have rumble, nor buzzsaw and g1 ravage. Strangely thou the yellowing on your Netflix SW does make him look era appropriate lol littley all items from the 70s and early 80s had that type of color on them lol
@PrimeVsPrime do you prefer Soundwave from Nemesis Bridge or this one?
I do like this model and i dont have a single soundwave so i am probably gonna get it
Do you think the new SS86 release will have cassettes? If so plz lmk bc I’m really caving into buying this release just bc it comes with the full package.
I will definitely pick this up. Looks good to me 😎
I could accept that they reused the Siege mold, but for the leader price point I would have preferred improvements such as gap filers, a rotation for the hand and articulated fingers a little.Improvement on general joints and less details to recall the g1 model, the cassettes are quite good even if (always for the leader price point) I would have preferred a bicep joint for Rumble
I think I'll wait for the ss86