I had the chance to play both models in a local store. They felt exactly the same and my preference of running passive resulted in both sounding almost exactly the same allowing for differences from any two basses. Anyway, both are well built and great feeling and anyone choosing from them can't go wrong with either. In the end, as with any instrument purchase, I just chose the one that "sang" to me so to speak. Ended up with a D-Roc 5.
Leland Skylar said he got the Dingwall in large part because of how the B string plays as compared to most 5 string basses. To me the B string is problematic on the two 5 strings I've had. I get what he's saying. Going from the E to the B strings can be a huge difference that you would not expect or want. I wonder how the Dingwalls sound going between the E and B strings.
Great vid, I agree about the warmth of the NG. Ironically I think on the 2 pickup models the Combustion spacing is more chunky aggressive, and the NG is more smooth. I put a Darkglass tone capsule in my Combustion and I exclusively use the NG spacing. I wish I had a 3 pickup model.
I personally really like the sound of the NG and enjoy the sound of the standard Combustion. The NG sounds more... Classic almost, in the sense that it has more warmth and mid response. The NG kinda sounds like an ultra-modern take on the jazz bass, at least from these clips.
@@ZombiePenguinStudios Before I got mine I watched every Ng3 video on youtube. And read all the info on the Dingwall site. You should do that, if you can't play one. And the Talkbass forum contains a wealth of info, and the Dingwall players group. The standard Combustion has a different Preamp, Ash body, and slightly different pickup selections (which can be rewired): Bridge/Bridge + Middle - in Parallel/Bridge + Middle - in Series/Neck. The Ng3 Has instead, a Middle solo and all 3 (Middle and Bridge in Parallel + Neck). The typical "Nolly" sound is the Bridge and Middle in Parallel. - Which both basses can do - is a quite musicman sound. But I only use the middle pickup with a mid scoop. I bought it - of course for the massive B string, but also the excellent C. The even tension across the strings is Magic. Weighs 4 kilos! The quality is the same as Musicman, or Fender. It's a quality factory made instrument. Any questions - ask away. Cheers From Oz
I would argue that the DG pre makes the bass more versatile. I own one of the very first C4 Combustion, and quickly routed the body to add a third pickup, and added a DG pre. The EMG has poor eq centers for anyone not looking for a modern "slappy tappy" sound.
this video is really cool! thanks for taking the time to explain AND play em for us! im excited to say i just ordered a Combustion from Bass Central (i live 2 hours from the store in FL)
Now, I think - but I am not sure - the NG2's preamp sports two 9 volt batteries, while the Combustions EMG preamp just one 9 volt batteries, right? I am not sure about this, but 18 volt systems sure brings more boost to the table and more aggresive tones ... too..the pickups are still F3-DN if I am correct, on both units. But the two 9 volts batteries as opposed to one shouldn't be neglected when scrutinizing the differences...methinks...
@@abeattie07 The earliest Combustions sure had only one. I got one from 2011, and it sure had only one battery. If they always are 18v that sure makes a difference between the EARLIEST Combustions, and modern day NG2.
Hey thanks for that, I only found out recently they make the Combustion guitars for around $2000 - they seem to use the same materials and set up as the insane Z3s! So, my question is, for $3000 less, is there much of a difference in sound? The Z3s do sound amazing - cheers!
Dingwall NG3 owner here ; they use a "custom pickup (s) " on non production models . The Z , Lee Skylar , all the other models including the Droc CUSTOM are going to get dingwalls upgraded pickups . They do sound good , but production models already sound incredible , so I'd get one of those first . If the model you're looking at uses the same woods as a custom , you're just paying for the upgraded pickups , craftsmanship and custom options , and not too much else .
I think they might have produced to many NG models, on reverb brand new models are cheaper then combustion I just got a 10th anniversary edition combustion for 600$ less then a ng
I wish somebody could actually prove that there is real processed sound differences between woods that people used to carve bodies with. Fodera loves to beat on wood to show some difference but I’ve played many and no differences with the same electronics
I heard Alex Webster say in a video that he doesn’t like to record with the darkglass preamp in his signature bass he likes to use the original specter with EMGs and the tone pump preamp.He said he couldn’t record with the darkglass and make it sound good or something like that, I wouldn’t want to buy a bass for that preamp if I was unable to make it sound good in recording. I hear they sound great live though.What do you think man? Your opinion is going to weigh in on my decision making when I buy a Dingwall.
@@ishguitars watched it several times! At the end of the day I went with the dingwall myself and couldn't be more pleased. I would have liked to have sat down with a specter but that was not a viable option.
I had the chance to play both models in a local store. They felt exactly the same and my preference of running passive resulted in both sounding almost exactly the same allowing for differences from any two basses. Anyway, both are well built and great feeling and anyone choosing from them can't go wrong with either. In the end, as with any instrument purchase, I just chose the one that "sang" to me so to speak. Ended up with a D-Roc 5.
That bike is gorgeous, of course. It looks like a Norton tank and a Yamaha 650 motor. I love the white walls, too.
Just picked one of these up from ISH on Reverb. Was dealing with Michael. Really great salesperson and can’t wait to have this bass!
Thanks Gunnar!
Leland Skylar said he got the Dingwall in large part because of how the B string plays as compared to most 5 string basses. To me the B string is problematic on the two 5 strings I've had. I get what he's saying. Going from the E to the B strings can be a huge difference that you would not expect or want. I wonder how the Dingwalls sound going between the E and B strings.
Great vid, I agree about the warmth of the NG. Ironically I think on the 2 pickup models the Combustion spacing is more chunky aggressive, and the NG is more smooth. I put a Darkglass tone capsule in my Combustion and I exclusively use the NG spacing. I wish I had a 3 pickup model.
Ther's a mod option from Dingwall to make it a 3 Pickup version. :-)
Great descriptions of the tone....right on point.
I personally really like the sound of the NG and enjoy the sound of the standard Combustion. The NG sounds more... Classic almost, in the sense that it has more warmth and mid response. The NG kinda sounds like an ultra-modern take on the jazz bass, at least from these clips.
man, i wish there was more video on each pick up then all together and whatever other variations of the pick ups
ua-cam.com/video/IPKGkxW_9h4/v-deo.html
This helped me get a bit of idea.
I've got a 6string Ng3.
@@craigmoran893 just saw it
but is it the same on a combustion?
@@ZombiePenguinStudios Before I got mine I watched every Ng3 video on youtube.
And read all the info on the Dingwall site.
You should do that, if you can't play one.
And the Talkbass forum contains a wealth of info, and the Dingwall players group.
The standard Combustion has a different Preamp, Ash body, and slightly different pickup selections (which can be rewired):
Bridge/Bridge + Middle - in Parallel/Bridge + Middle - in Series/Neck.
The Ng3 Has instead, a Middle solo and all 3 (Middle and Bridge in Parallel + Neck).
The typical "Nolly" sound is the Bridge and Middle in Parallel. - Which both basses can do - is a quite musicman sound. But I only use the middle pickup with a mid scoop.
I bought it - of course for the massive B string, but also the excellent C. The even tension across the strings is Magic. Weighs 4 kilos!
The quality is the same as Musicman, or Fender. It's a quality factory made instrument.
Any questions - ask away. Cheers From Oz
@@craigmoran893 thanks friend!
The green sparkle looks so much better in motion than in the still pictures.
Yo I just realized I ordered my first dingwall from yall! So cool thank you for the video!
I would argue that the DG pre makes the bass more versatile. I own one of the very first C4 Combustion, and quickly routed the body to add a third pickup, and added a DG pre. The EMG has poor eq centers for anyone not looking for a modern "slappy tappy" sound.
I super agree with that, EMG preamps don't have super great frequencies. Dark glass or Aguilar is the only thing I run for the most part
Great overview of the differences. Very helpful info!
this video is really cool! thanks for taking the time to explain AND play em for us!
im excited to say i just ordered a Combustion from Bass Central (i live 2 hours from the store in FL)
Now, I think - but I am not sure - the NG2's preamp sports two 9 volt batteries, while the Combustions EMG preamp just one 9 volt batteries, right? I am not sure about this, but 18 volt systems sure brings more boost to the table and more aggresive tones ... too..the pickups are still F3-DN if I am correct, on both units.
But the two 9 volts batteries as opposed to one shouldn't be neglected when scrutinizing the differences...methinks...
I've got a C1 and the preamp takes two 9v, though I'm not sure if earlier combustions had only one :)
It’s a 18, it’s always two.
@@abeattie07 The earliest Combustions sure had only one. I got one from 2011, and it sure had only one battery. If they always are 18v that sure makes a difference between the EARLIEST Combustions, and modern day NG2.
Hey thanks for that, I only found out recently they make the Combustion guitars for around $2000 - they seem to use the same materials and set up as the insane Z3s! So, my question is, for $3000 less, is there much of a difference in sound? The Z3s do sound amazing - cheers!
Dingwall NG3 owner here ; they use a "custom pickup (s) " on non production models . The Z , Lee Skylar , all the other models including the Droc CUSTOM are going to get dingwalls upgraded pickups . They do sound good , but production models already sound incredible , so I'd get one of those first . If the model you're looking at uses the same woods as a custom , you're just paying for the upgraded pickups , craftsmanship and custom options , and not too much else .
The upgraded p/us are called "super fattys"!!!
that cafe is sick
I think they might have produced to many NG models, on reverb brand new models are cheaper then combustion I just got a 10th anniversary edition combustion for 600$ less then a ng
Great looking review guys. Love this. That green sparkle hits different outside of the promo shots we’ve had all year. 😍
The metallic aquamarine is soooooo sick. Honestly wish my D-Bird was this color.
Good informative video, 👍
just ordered a d roc 5 what would you say they are made for it felt great ordered purple to blue shift.
Dude. Nice bike lol
Brillant
I wish somebody could actually prove that there is real processed sound differences between woods that people used to carve bodies with. Fodera loves to beat on wood to show some difference but I’ve played many and no differences with the same electronics
which is the cheapest ng 5 string
I heard Alex Webster say in a video that he doesn’t like to record with the darkglass preamp in his signature bass he likes to use the original specter with EMGs and the tone pump preamp.He said he couldn’t record with the darkglass and make it sound good or something like that, I wouldn’t want to buy a bass for that preamp if I was unable to make it sound good in recording. I hear they sound great live though.What do you think man? Your opinion is going to weigh in on my decision making when I buy a Dingwall.
Sounds like a bump in the low mids with the NG
8:48 you say either and i say either
the difference is GAS
What's a B string?
needs more likes
Big string
I was going to buy a combustion until I saw it was made in China. It’s very expensive for an instrument made in China.
my NG3 has no quality control issues and feels much better (IMO) than my American Fender which had a handful of issues
🎶🎶👍
7:43 6:51
Anyone compare these to the new specter dimension?
We actually compared them in a video! ua-cam.com/video/vLPL1iISkgQ/v-deo.html
@@ishguitars watched it several times! At the end of the day I went with the dingwall myself and couldn't be more pleased.
I would have liked to have sat down with a specter but that was not a viable option.
Too much talk.. not enough playing
Just skip crybaby
Sooo $2600 for a Chinese combustion 5 I don’t think so.
that neck mic is annoying lots of noise
If only i weren't poor lol
Please stop with the tone wood bullshit do some solid research. Other than that it’s a great video
Just buy better pedals
EMG .....I do not why, but this mark never catched my proper attention, ever. Sounds too easy, not really original or unique...
Adam "Nolly" Getgood was in Periphery 2012-2017
Toured with them for that long. Still records the bass and mixes the music. Very active in the band still.