100% Health 5 Charging Cycles and the battery is locked! How this is possible? Asus batteries repair
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
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hi sorin , I have learned a lot from you about how to read the schematics, and this has saved me a lot of trouble in repairing many faults if they are in a laptop or any electronic board that has problems, or how to repair batteries.
I wish you well and safety
No fuse, no problem 😂
very nice! I remember fixing my router's once, it was not working .After checking the voltage it was 4.4 v fluctuating I thought first it was a problem in the board but I remembered a video that Sorin made explaining that the voltage will be constant if the middle pin was shorted to ground and indeed that was the case. Then I realised the battery must have gone low, so after charging a bit It was working fine and still and that was MONTHS ago !
Even after so many battery videos, it is still interesting to watch!
Great job as usual. Thanks Sorin 😊
We need open source battery tool
Amazing video🙂 Thank's!
This whole repairing batteries reminded me of my 90s phone unlocking/fixing times, both the software and that box could have been from that time and yeah those boxes/clips costed a lot at that time aswell , you even had to pay for updates, lol!
Exactly! I remember as I have at that times dabbled in that!😀
Well done Sorin😊😊😊😊
Hi there. You're a great teacher i ever seen ❤❤❤
Good job. thanks
The battery analyzer is on subscription plan? Now that is crazy!
This video is good for gaining knowledge on battery issues s
Nice one , please ask the NBLA Manufacturer to Reduce the Reset subscription
But the competitor price is 3 x NLBA1 subscription price.
very Nice repair ❤👍👍👍👍👍
Dr Sorin u are the best
Hello🤝good job this is ecologic not just a empty words ✌👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👋👋👋👋👋👋
great work ....
Sorin, you can apply for a role in one of the StarWars sequels as a speeder engineer!
Hi Sorin, I love your videos, I was wondering is there a reset on the controller chip on the battery and have you tried any way of unlocking a battery from the chip, if it is possible.
Very good!
Had an iphone that would not charge. Battery was drained too low. Was suggested to warm the back of the phone with hair dryer, then plug charger cable in. Sounded like an internet fallacy, but had nothing to lose, so tried it. It worked! The heat caused the cells voltage to raise just enough to meet the minimum, and that fixed it!
I unlocked the battery using Project 2007 demo. By making simple projects during charging, discharging, after 10 projects the battery unlocked itself, and the charging started to show difference. Another unlock method is Diablo 2. Den is about the Dell notebook, when you unlock the chest, but that’s for Dell. For Acer, you have to go to Act 3. Asus unlocks at Act 1.
It's nice to have "unlimited unlocks" for the batteries 😊
hey i have dell laptop and i check the battery health by CMD prompt "design capacity is 42998 mwh" and full charging capacity is 38213mwh but they charge only 24214mwh means 60% , not charge more than 60% , can you help me please.
The batteries are not balanced . The battery needs surgery...😊 . Nothing you can do.... Take it to a professional or buy a new one
Hi Sorin,
This tool seems great, and I would like to get one myself. I do have a question. Let's say I have a HP laptop and it has its original factory battery inside and the laptop is not charging. It is picked up, but not charging. I then replace the battery with a brand new one, and it is still not charging. Have checked the motherboard over and there are no issues with the board. If you keep replacing the battery in this device, does that mean the batteries will keep locking? I have had this exact scenario, and we replaced the battery but the same thing, no charge? Or is it possible we were given another bad battery? Thanks
problem in the laptop itself not the batteries
check the battery output voltage first, keep note to connect System Present pin to the ground to enable the output
Excellent, A few more batteries and you can afford another analyzer!
Very nice Video....by the way is " A PROPERLY CALIBRATED FUSE JOB..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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We should replace the fuse instead of soldering it right? 😅
The cover on the thermal fuse... What is is this part of the design for? Is it to protect the outer black plastic part from the heat build up and melting if the fuse needs to get burnt to protect the battery. I suppose that the thermal risk from the fuse melting other bits of plastic first is how long the fuse takes to pop and current to cease and so in turn bringing the temp back down. Also does the melting point of the replacement solder affect the thermal fuse blow time? Sorry I always have questions lol
The thermally activated fuse may be considered an active fuse in that high current passes through an integrated heater that liquifies a low melting point solder bridge. The molten Solder is contained within the sealed fuse module. When looking at a blown fuse of this type there is often ‘solder spatter’ on the inside of the fuse compartment. Removing the lid of the fuse module whilst the fuse is still operable potentially permits molten spatter release onto surrounding electronics if later activated, which is not desirable. These fuses are more sophisticated than they may appear. The solder bridge uses the correct amount of the correct low melting point solder to guarantee connection separation when the heater wire is activated with high current. Placing a blob of ‘other’ solder across the fuse does restore the connectivity but is inadvisable in a commercial setting as this is tampering with a safety device and Sorin’s repair of the fuse does not guarantee correct operation in the future. In Australia they call this “Bush Engineering” as it gets you out of trouble but is not necessarily a correct repair method. I have no issue with Sorin doing such repairs to get something working but he is either brave or foolish to do this as a commercial repair for customers as he takes on the liability for any future fire caused by his actions (in the UK at least). That liability could range from someone’s laptop being destroyed to a house fire with total loss. I hope he has good public liability insurance ! As a side note, replacing these thermal ‘active’ fuses can be challenging as too much heat on their pins causes them to activate as the solder bridge inside melts !
correct points, original solder bridge has a form of thin square. Its specific form serves for two tasks. First, small thickness allow secure isolation of power pass. Second, square form increase its throughput and reduce voltage drop. On the factory it looks special press-form is used to produce such a solder bridge. It is also covered with small layer of resin flux which reduce surface tension of melted solder. In principle such a technique could be reproduced in workshop too. Its not nano technology though )..
Thanks for very informative reply. Another good question is why they lock so easy. Manufacturer playing it safe with charging idle/low used batts or money making scheme, they should nor be failing like this video shows. and Asus it seems @@fraserc9768
A Google search will reveal a lot of manufacturers information on recommended minimum voltage for a Lithium Ion or Li Poly cell. The general view is that a cell that has dropped to 2V is suffering internal chemical changes that damage it. A cell that has dropped to 1.5V for any significant length of time (a few weeks) can suffer significant internal changes that may lead to an unsafe state. Manufacturers of battery packs will not risk their reputation by allowing a battery pack to operate in an unsafe state, this includes charging after a potentially harmful deep discharge that has changed the cell chemistry. When working with Li-Ion and Li-Poly cells, manufacturers are very aware that these cell technologies are very prone to catastrophic failure if abused and so battery management IC’s became “Smart” and are basically a SoC that monitors the safety of the battery pack at all times. If a safety breach occurs, the management IC renders the battery “safe” by disabling it from charge and further discharge. It should be noted that these Smart IC’s do not arbitrarily disable the battery as that can cause customer complaints ! They do manage the cell safety though and whilst they may disable the battery output at a certain voltage, they also permit charging at a far lower voltage from which the cells may safely recover. At some point though, if the minimum safe voltage threshold is passed (due to long term storage) the Management IC invokes the safety lockout protocol to protect the appliance, user and manufacturers (liability claims). It should be noted that a brand new spare battery may have a special ultra low current mode set at manufacture to minimise self discharge during storage. Once the battery receives a charge, this mode is permanently disabled and the battery will self discharge over time as it powers the management IC as well as natural discharge of the cells. It is not the manufacturers fault if a battery is not cared for whilst in storage. A Li-Ion battery should be stored at approximately 50% charge and refresh charges applied every 3 to 6 months to return the battery to 50% charge. New Old Stock batteries are not something a battery manufacturer cares about and buyers need to be aware of the risks of buying such batteries. I have bought and returned many new old stock batteries that were basically scrap due to crazy low voltage levels on the cells….. think 10 years of storage with no refresh charge and you get the idea ! The cells are basically chemically compromised by that time and pretty much scrap. Use such cells at your own risk as no one can tell you how they will behave if they are revived from say 0.1V to 4.2V. You can get lucky and have a working battery, albeit with much lower capacity than when made, but you can also end up with an overheated cell in the pack, case melting or even fire. I had a new old stock laptop battery arrive that had completely melted its casing whilst new and in a manufacturer sealed box ! One cell had clearly overheated and it was fortunate that others did not go into thermal runaway as a result. Please treat this battery technology with the respect that it deserves. Just talk to Radio Control modellers about what can happen when these cells go rogue…. It isn’t pretty !
Hello guys , what's the best program to check the battery for windows laptops ?
what happens in future after fuse soldered. What shut blow up cells or something on the board?
The fuse will still blow up like normal. The solder will pop like a fuse before the battery would. There’s plenty of power that if it was to fail it would blow / pop like original. Solder is tough but not tough enough just let a bunch of current push through to fry everything.
This guy take me back when world of warcraft the online pc game came out he has to fix every pc laptops and pc batteries repairs and our education too-DLH
Sir mine acer predetor suddenly stop working while working and try to on only keyboard light on then off and on again with blue keyboard light and no display .
I know thats "expensive" but that device has all and kept updated. Thats all covers the payment when you keep doing these jobs makes sense.
Welcome to another industry for people like Sorin would need pay THOUSANDS pounds for entry level devices. And still they will make sense in that industry.
The real costs to make the device is always way way up.
hello. I am a huge fan of your channel. i have an Acer Aspire 3, and recently my laptop does not turn on unless i leave it off for a week. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. If I don't leave it off for a week, the blue light turns on for 4 seconds and then turns off, and there is nothing I can do about it. Can I send my laptop to you for repair?
Hi i went to start as a beginner
I wish some company would make replacement boards for these new batteries that has a reset button on them... or the manufacturer is forced to warranty the thing for 5 years.
You forgot to say "proper calibrate tape" 😂
I noticed that most of the batteries that are dying are coming from powerful laptops, with i7 cpu ....when the laptop is going into turbo boost mode, it's eating a lot of amps...
Hi, is it possible to reset the battery chip by disconnecting all the battery cells? Because i don't have the battery reader here.
No, the error flags are stored in the non-volatile memory and the chip is password-protected.
@@azzidoqsc thanks for your reply. I'll make a read about volatile & non-volatile memory.
I also had such a battery, but replaced it with a new one. That device is too expensive for my 3 repairs in a year.
The analyzer is a real PRO analyzer, free, lifetime, unlimited.
i need a copy of that software as im a repair tech aswell,
hi Sorin i get confused when you said that you have 10 years subscription with the company, they sell the battery analyzer while i looked in their website saying that (laptop battery chip reset license1-year for $269 that is mean you paid $2690 for 10 years? please explain this for me as soon as you see my message thanks (samer from Australia )
But note, NLBA1 comes with 10 free days Repair Option, you can repair unlimited batteries for 10 days for free. You can recover the investment in the free period.
is the motherboard faulty, is the reason for for fuse blown?
Over discharged cells, this is the reason.
@@azzidoqsc over discharged cells should not blow the fuse.
With all due respect Sorin, 10 Year Subscription costs $1000 + $360 for the machine. $1360 / 10 years is $136 per year. $136 / 3 is $45 (your coupon only deducts $10 out of the $1360, so I'm not even considering that). Unless it is a brand new battery, it's not worth repairing. A 1 year old battery is already old. How many brand new locked batteries Joe the technician is going to get per year? You need to repair at least 10 of such batteries per year constantly for 10 years in order for it to make sense. This is why many think it doesn't make sense. Also the machine comes with 10 Free days of unlocking. In my opinion for $1000 it should come with maybe 5 Free unlocks and not 10 Free days. Then maybe it would make sense for the average Joe. And don't forget, your audience is the average Joe and not Mr CEO.
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Hell wish I could send you my ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 ,It wont power on at all , I bought new power supply and disconnected batter and c mos batter but that didn't work , I bought new usb c port , But I am disabled so could never replace it.
With all this battery ID/monitoring BS, ie, it kills itself for any little thing, laptop batteries have become the modern day equivalent of printer ink, ie, they want you to pay a lot of $s all the time.
LiPos are sent out with a low storage voltage, eg 3.6V, and if you don't charge it it can die in storage.
Hi Sorin,
Don't get me wrong, the battery tool you are advertising is awesome. But unfortunately it has an awesome price too.... 350USD + 269USD license per year...
It's worth telling to your viewers that there are actually cheaper alternatives to unseal a chip, erase errors etc. Texas Instruments built their own product which is 200USD.
Also, this is i2C communication and can be achieved for free using a raspberry pi. There's lots of free python scripts for it that can do what you did in this video. You can go even cheaper than a PI and get a 1 dollar i2c to USB adapter and run the script on your computer.
Can you share it with me, where can i found these scripts?
@@mlacika88 I don’t want to share links here, but the Texas Instruments tool is ev2400 - there’s also Chinese clones available. And also if you google raspberry pi unlock laptop battery you will find plenty of answers
I thought the challenge was finding out the unseal code for modern batteries that can use custom firmware and non default passwords. I have used the Texas Instruments utilities but these do not always support the battery management IC’s used in branded laptop batteries. I do not think the designer of the NLBA1 has hidden the fact that it is basically a TI EV2300/2400 interface combined with a battery charger in a single box. It is the software with its extensive unsealing capabilities that is the clever bit of the package. As others have stated, it is now priced for professional users only. I seem to recall that it’s cost of ownership was lower when first released but suddenly increased :( I should have bought one when it was first released. That said, you are still having to pay the subscription. It is a nice convenient piece of kit but from a commercial standpoint it also brings with it the risk of being sued if it is shown that a revived battery caused a destructive fire. Unlocking a locked battery passes the responsibility for fire from the manufacturer to the person who effectively over-rode the battery safety systems and unlocked it. That is a risk that many commercial companies, in the UK at least, would take seriously. To me this is a hobbyists tool that truthfully has no place in a professional workshop except to check battery condition and report such to the customer. Reversing a locked battery status is the point at which the NLBA1 operator takes on the potential fire risk.
@@fraserc9768 "To me this is a hobbyists tool that truthfully has no place in a professional workshop except to check battery condition and report such to the customer." - totally agree with this. Interesting fact, a company I worked for has replaced their laptops with new ones and have DONATED the old ones to employees. One of them caught fire and the employee has sued the company and won....
@@mirceaalicu yup liability for repairs if they are done in an unsafe way.
Asus... Am i shocked? No...
Planned obsolence is absurdly gets high nowadays 5 cycle come on ,thousands available that can change that battery without knowing replacements are not equal, totaly waste.Sorin can You make a video about car bateries sulfation or defulsation is it a myth or not ?
Laptop Battery Chip Reset License - 1 Year is $269.00 If you realy charged 212.44 British pounds for this job that is insanely expensive. The owner of the batteries could buy at least 6 new original batteries. Thanks for the information about the prices of your services.
I think he's saying that he got the 10 year one for $999 so he probably charged ~$100 for the 3 batteries which equates to 1 year on the 10 year plan. I'd say $70 to $80 for that job would still actually be worth it seeing as how even cheap, pirate Acer batteries cost around $30 and then they last 3 months and get swollen cells all over the show.
That battery is not new. On the board it states 2014…10 yrs old! I use both nbla and be2works, it’s a one off payment to be2works, and the bq 30z chipset can be reset for free, I think with an app called dri killer. I use a cp2112, very cheap. I would also say, he got a lifetime sun for free for recommendation of the NBLA and NIP embedded, he has also reset the cycle count and date, to make it look like it’s brand new, without changing the cells, sneaky
@@johnburrows7938 You are wrong, bq30z55 cannot be reset for free using be2works. I had be2works and it is just software, it wasted my time, no support at all, also no analyzer, using bulbs and loads, etc...
'BQ chip blowup the fuse for no reason...'
I tell you what's happening:
- Old laptops are sold with discount.
- People like discounts.
- Cell of a battery discharge over time
- When started for the 1st time the current is very high and THAT's WHY 'the fuse blow up & chip gets locked'
5 cycles might be the only tests done when manufactured and assembled...
If you buy my HP elite X2 G2, with the other 4 for sale, which corrupt ebay managed to offer sale to me even though I didn't win, you can pay for more battery softwaree
why do these PCBs disable Batteries for such silly reasons like not charging for long time?
just to be sure they dont explode, or lazy design, or to screw the customer easier and get them to buy new batteries?
They don't get disabled because they don't get charged. If the voltage in a battery gets too low it can alter the physical properties of it permanently. The battery might not be "in spec" anymore and it might fail during normal use.
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its poor practice to inject so big charge current into deeply discharged cells. Normally they should be precharged with small current around 0.1 amp until they reach safe minimum level voltage.
Agree.
Blown fuse with no investigation as to why?
Due to over discharged cells. Sorin pre-charged the cells so the fault is fixed.
thats how factory punish the costumers by using a weak FUSE
I work for a Repurpose/Recycle business, we repair gifted laptops for charities and reuse them for childrens education etc. Over half the excitement is batteries we have to buy a they are mostly drained and locked out. We would love this device but it's too much money especially down here in Australia. Delivery and overall cost is prohibitive. Why is it so expensive?
Actually it is cheapest on the market. Check competitors products like UBRT with $1100 yearly license fee
They'd sell 1000 tomorrow at half that price. It's economics, noone can justify that outlay. I really do understand why they don't, R&D deserves to be paid for.
Yes, it is too cheap, it is actually the price of a good multimeter :) You can recover the investment using the free 10 days CHip Repair option, you can even earn money in the free period. Quite interesting that people are saying it is expensive while it can recover its price in just one day.
Well locking battery for no use is a rip off.
I thought the main purpose for this device was to be able to override the battery lock and charge it without having to manually charge them.
Over priced in my opinion then.
15 minute repair, or you have to buy new battery at 3 times the price.
@@yoppindia Fake batteries are always fake.
You should change the fuse !
You know what the fuse do ?!
He knows so much more than you
It looks someone dont know how controllable fuse works
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Battery pandemic.... battery covid 2024!!!
Hi Sorim, good job... hope we can share experience and became your level..... bye Francesco Timpano from Florence Italy @Timpano Francesco Repairs
NLB device price is insane, these videos has no value, as nobody has this magic box to begin with.
big mistake, many workshops have this amazing tool, because competitors product is 3x NLBA1 subscription price
You are free to throw away original batteries and buy cheap fake batteries, it is insane :)
@@ua9851 Even Chinese batteries have 2 Year warranty in EU, go figure who is stupid after this true statement.
@@juliusvalentinas good joke, you will be happy if your chinese copy will serve 2 monthes, not years haha
@@juliusvalentinas disassemble at least one fake battery and you will see no safety, no name cells of unknown quality and poor assembly. Then you will figure out who is stupid for sure )))
what subscription? 269? no thanks, not for me...
Yes, 269$ for 1 year, unlimited batteries, it is the price of 2-4 genuine batteries, it can be recovered in just few hours :)
Very Good Job