LEICA NOCTILUX 50 F0.95 VS TTARTISAN 50 F0.95
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Here it is, the legendary Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95 ASPH versus TTArtisan 50mm f/0.95 as well as the Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. How do these lenses compare in sharpness, bokeh and rendering? Check it out! Let me know which lens you prefer in the comments, is the Noctilux fifteen times better than the TTArtisan?
Tested on a Sony a7rii, Leica M10, M2 and M3.
imagine casually walking around with a $15,000 lens on your shoulder? I don't think so.
Yeah it’s something else…
@@GenericPhotographer that’s why I buy vintage lenses.
@@jameslabeck6407 love me some classic glass. Good investments as well
A relevant comment - especially in light of the escalating number of photographers targeted by thefts in the U.S.
@@charliemcdougall
I was mugged when doing night photography…it’s just not as safe as it’s used to be.
I own the TT artisans 50mm f0.95 and i love using it ,its a beautifully made lens with high performance to match and i am pleased that it stood up well v the leica noctilux in many respects.
Great lens indeed. Enjoy it
Would like to know how it holds up now! I had the 28mm F1.4 and two versions of the 50mm F1.1. And Both started to fall apart after some time. Starting from grinding in the gears because of dust that wondered in to the focus control wheel to loose control over the focus heliocoid inside, the screws wore off, after I had to fasten them over 2 years of usage because it got very loose and wobbly only 4 months after I bought it.
Great comparison! Imho the Noctilux is outdated and overrated. Checkout for example the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM - yes, not f0.95, but damn close. In my opinion it's clearly a better lens and - drum roll - has autofocus. Something definitively very useful at apertures of f1.2 or faster.
It's always strange to me when people gasp so much about the 50/.95 Noctilux, cause I never liked the way it renders images and background elements. I think the 50/1.0 Noctilux is the actual gem in the Leica stable with more spherical aberration and much more interesting bokeh, and the 0.95 is just a flex.
At this price difference, the risk of losing life/safety vs losing $180 is much more significant than image quality differences 🤣
All these new manual lenses for this price why no one compare it with old vintage lenses who are in sama price ? All compare these new manual lenses always compare with much more expensive lenses, yes interesting see what "not get" for the price. But "we" who want to buy a lens in 100-300 dollars price range probably thinking about buy old manual vintage lens or a new manual lense. Can someone please make a comparison between old vintage manual lenses like 50mm f1.2-1.4 Pentax, Minolta, Canon or Nikon manual lense to new manual lenses.
An excellent, thorough review. Next time we need you to have a shoot-off between the 50/1.2, 50/1.0, 50/0.95, and 75/1.25 Noctiluxes. Time to crown the king of the night!
Oh boy I’ve got my work cut out for me!
$14k CAD for onion rings!
The most exclusive type
Noctilux is best with Leica Monochrom
Difficulty with any rangefinder camera with a large aperture lens like these is focusing accuracy. At f0.95 the plane of focus is tiny demanding the camera focusing system to have absolute accuracy between lens to camera's film plane. Higher contrast is not always better, there is a balanced between contrast to resolution to out of focus rendition to in-out of focus rendition and much more. These uber large aperture lenses that are the current Foto fashion are more novelty status lenses than truly useful creative image making tools. While there are images that demand and can greatly benefit from uber large aperture lenses, majority of images do not benefit from these uber large aperture lenses.
Thanks for watching, they’re not for everyone but I’m glad they exist. Cheers
Excellent review! Looking at your comparisons from the 3 lenses, I also prefered the summilux bokeh out of the three.
A great blend of size, performance and in this case maybe even value?!
Just because ppl are comparing this to the Leica makes want to buy it. I`lll never own a 13k lens. It`s like comparing a new sports car brand to a Ferrari and finding that the performance is close yet it costs 1/15 the price of the scarlet car.
The voigtlander 50 f1 is the Porsche of this equation. I’d say that it’s your best bet at Leica on a budget
Great review man, now I'm hungry for some onion rings and bokeh balls!
I’ll take the same, hold the fringing please
I love my pre 6 bit code brass and chrome Cron. It loves on my M10P. I tend to use the Chinese fast m lenses on the SL, but find the 59 Cron, 75 Summarit and 90 pre ASPH Cron are perfect on the rangefinder
Lovely, the 50 cron in chrome is such a desired lens. I agree however the longer lenses are a little trickier to focus but at least they’ve got the size advantage over these two behemoths.
Can’t wait to see these up against the Voigtlander 50/1.0 when it’s released.
So much competition now in every focal length.
Yeah absolutely, that voigtlander was announced while I was doing this video. I’ll definitely try it out when I can!
@@GenericPhotographer Can't wait!
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Check this . This 0.95 250$
Well the Noctilux lens hood seems very expensive… :)
Nice comparison. Clearly though, at 9:04 the TTArtisan renders sharper @ f/1.4. Worthwile to note since you'd own such a lens for the wider apertures.
It may be some issues with focus or lens construction itself, cause ttartisan has a lot more noticeable vignetting and while trees look more detailed, but the background has less details than on Noctilux, plus the corners can be much sharper on leica when stopped down, while TT keeps that soft frame, not much of a deal compared to price, especially at night when you'd use min aperture the most
That Mazda looked really cool with the 0.95
Car and landscape photography should be more common at such low f-stop
Thanks! I tried a few wide open landscapes, definitely sets a different tone.
@@GenericPhotographer I wish it was more common
Video @ 12:59 - Look at the edges of the out of focus bokeh. The Noctilux is 'lamp-shading' (sharp edges on round subject matter) ! - The TT-Art is amazing with its smoothness! Still, these specialized optics are mainly for LIGHT GATHERING duty, not an Everyday Carry lens. - Remember, you're paying for the cumbersome extra bulk & weight so you can have the light striking the front element to be THE SAME as the rear element ! - And yes, when you wish to blow your background into OBLIVION, these should be used...
Have no interest in Leica but was fascinated about the outcome of two lenses priced drastically different
Glad you found it interesting
Very nice review - comparison! I’m getting the Ttartisan at the fraction of the Leica…will be used on two mirrorless cameras, the SL2s and the GFX 50Sii. I read that focus (infinity I believe) adjustment at the rear of the lens is critical. I need to learn some more…thanks for sharing. Cheers..
Good score! Don’t forget to check out the voigtlander nokton f1! Just did a video on it and honestly it’s the best value-to-performance of the three.
This review is GREAT! We needed a matchup review between these two lenses (the Leica vs the TT)! Great job!
Thanks! Thought so too, glad to have been of service haha
Good, useful presentation. Thanks! I revisited it today, after some test shooting with my new Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f/1.0 VM. In short, nothing has yet become a serious threat to my much-loved Summilux-M 50mm ASPH. The Nokton f/1.0 VM is a quite nice supplement/complement, occupying a “sweet spot,” in size, weight, and available aperture width. I have never handled a Noctilux f/0.95, but do not think that I would want to tote that much weight or bulk, on an M camera, and the TTartisan 50mm f/0.95 is even larger and heavier than the Noctilux. If I decide that I need a “more optically perfect” 50mm M-mount lens, the 50mm APO VM would be a leading contender, but I am not paid for my images, so there is no rush. (In the long term, curiosity about the 50mm APO VM will probably get the best of me, eventually, but even an APO would probably be a niche lens, unless I decide to start using 50mm for more landscapes, or perhaps product or forensic/evidentiary photography.)
Did you have to calibrate the Artisan lens?
Yes it was slightly off, focusing past infinity, but ever so slightly. Live view was needed for accuracy, especially up close.
@@GenericPhotographer how do you that on film cameras?
@@bngr_bngr it’s a lot harder, hopefully things line up at infinity but I doubt you’ll have to worry it film is much more forgiving.
Smooth bokeh ist kind of boring. I like my bokeh old skool...like the Summicron 35mm "King of Bokeh".
I think a f.95 Lens serves very little purpose, for the expense of it.. However, quite a few years ago I had the early version of f1.0, used it a few times, and couldn't wait to get rid of it.. Ended up getting satisfying results with f1.4 Lenses, and do not miss the f1.0 at all.. I have a Konica 58mm ~ f1.2 that I use occasionally just to impress my Clients with.. $500 compared to 4500 - still a very decent lens for a fraction of Leica..
Definitely a niche lens and aperture. I’d even go so far as to say a 50 Summicron is really all anyone needs. Variety is nice
@@GenericPhotographer Which Lens do you shoot with?
@@dizzybuizzy9347 I’ve got a few M lenses but I’d say my most used lens is my 50 Summilux ASPH and I’m loving my new-to-me 35 2.8 Summaron.
@@GenericPhotographer - I like using Nikkor and Canon LTM39 Lenses!.. I still use Leica Lenses, (Elmar's / Summicron's, etc) depending on the Shoot!
The main difference between the 2 lenses is the level of tension and sweat you have when hold them with your hands.
Now, that is how you compare lenses. Great job. You cover all the bases. Very well done !
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
No need for a 15000 dollar lens other than to just say you spent 15000 bucks.
Great review! I was considering noctilux too, but end up with 50mm apo summicron. Better overall IQ, smoother bokeh, smaller package, and also reliable in term of RF focusing.
The 50 apo is a whole different beast
Well, it’s on 13k. So, smile
Cool review, same as the other guy in the comments waiting for the voigtlander version ! On a side note I've had this photo of this photographer from the 60s using an m3 with a metal strap and here i stumble upon your video and you have the same strap!! Can you please share for where did you get that? Thanks again!
Thanks, looking forward to trying the voigtlander as well. The strap is called a snakeskin metal chain strap. They were popular in the 50’s-60’s. They look cool but they’re not practical. They rip the hair out of your neck and arms and they scratch the cameras. It came with my recently acquired M3, I took it off after trying it for a bit.
@@GenericPhotographer ohh i see! Looks so nice but i guess unpractical. Thanks for the reply and the content:)
15000 dollars for a lens is a scam. Pure and simple.
Partially it is cause it's leica, but on such a scale things like that require very big improvement to get somewhere better results, so you pay for what you need, otherwise you can always looks for alternatives
Good review. As an engineer, I like your break down even though you never went over specs. I am looking for scientific reasons.
Amazing review! Thanks so much for the comparison shots!
You might want to try the Nikkor 58mm f/0.95
I’ve seen one only once in the flesh. It’s a monster with equally impressive results. Judging from what I’ve seen it’s in a league of its own. I’d welcome a spin with one.
Awesome review! Thank you! Really nice images too. Great work!
Great reviews Andrew as always. The time your putting creating these reviews and personal feedback is well appreciate it. As for the Noctilux, which is the one I would prefer adding.....well not really due to the price, but if I had to choose I would definitely go for the Leica. But being a street photographer shooter as you know... ergonomically and size weight it's more than a brick. Your lucky you got to play with both lens..... especially the NOCTI 🔴
Excellent vid brotha!!!
Thanks for the kind words Marlon! The Noctilux has that mystique that’s for sure. I still find the balance of size and performance of the Summilux to be unmatched.
not 1/2 stop increment but one stop increments.
BTW, have you had the chance to try the 7 Artisans 50mm f/1.1 (M Mount)? Thanks, Don
Hey Don! I did briefly, it’s very soft wide open but has a classic Leica glow to the images that remind me of the 50 f1.
very in depth review man! keep it up 🔥👍
Thanks buddy! Glad you enjoyed it!
Why talking about f/1.2 /2 or /5.6. The only one propose of those lenses is f/0.95. For extremely sharp f/2 and above we have a tones of lenses in price range between 50-1000€
Thank you for review
Excellent video thank you. I have the TTArtisan 50mm .95 for Nikon Z and it is wild how good of photos I have gotten with that lens for the price. Now I want to try the Leica Noc for my M11.
Can you link down the camera strap you used on 2:04?
Snakeskin strap from the 60s, looks cool but is totally useless and painful if you have any hair on your body. Also it scratched up my otherwise mint M3.
It looks so cool though 🥲
Please do a review on Apo Summicron 50/2 in the future!!
Absolutely, I tried one recently and it’s truly remarkable
I’m about to pick up the TTA 0.95. Any idea which coding I should use- noctilux 0.95 or 1.0?
Please do review comparison of Leica 35mm apo vs Leica 50 mm apo
Gladly, as soon as I can get my hands on the 35 I’ll put it to the test!
Hey, love the review! Thanks for the insights. Quick question for ya, which soft shutter is this? They look great and I’d love to cop one for my M2. Thanks again!
Hey Jeremy, thanks! Got them from Fieldworkco on Etsy, fantastic fit and finish, you’ll love them. Cheers!
@@GenericPhotographer Thanks!
voigtlander 50 f1 is a beast for the price if you compare with sumilux 50 f0.95
I would really be interested in hearing Lecia justify that price. Its made in Germany isn't a reason enough.
wow this audio sucks
Try them on Leica digital bodies against the Sony, the Leica software does wonders.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Most of these tests were done on my M10, only a few were on film or on my Sony camera.
@@GenericPhotographer Nice rational reviews. I was looking at the bokeh from Noctilux, enlargements from Leica and Sony digital bodies. The Leica ones were much smoother and creamier. If you will have another oportunity try stacking them side by side. The higher contrast and greater optical correction of new Noctilux may work against the smothnes
Thanks!
Great review !!! thanks for share it.
Thanks for watching!
i got 7 aritsans 35mm F0.95, love the video review!
Great review!
Thanks Jesse 🤟
hmm, while you were saying it never gets as sharp as the noctilux on the edges, what I am seeing from the pictures was the opposite. Did you accidentally labeled them wrong?
It may be some issues with focus or lens construction itself, cause ttartisan has a lot more noticeable vignetting and while trees look more detailed, but the background has less details than on Noctilux, plus the corners can be much sharper on leica when stopped down, while TT keeps that soft frame, not much of a deal compared to price, especially at night when you'd use min aperture the most
The sharpness of the TTArtisan wasn’t usable for my taste. If I have to stop it down to get acceptable sharpness, I’d rather just use a Summicron - even the older Summicrons are sharper at f2 than the TT
Serious? You pay $16k for the 50 Noc? The price is $13k only 🤣
At 13k, I’ll take two!
Nice review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
strange on that landscape photo at 0.95 you said TTartisan never have sharpness of leica - but those trees on right are way sharper on TTartisan.
It may be some issues with focus or lens construction itself, cause ttartisan has a lot more noticeable vignetting and while trees look more detailed, but the background has less details than on Noctilux, plus the corners can be much sharper on leica when stopped down, while TT keeps that soft frame, not much of a deal compared to price, especially at night when you'd use min aperture the most
I wonder how the Leica m 50mm 1.2 would match up
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Did you cover field curvature and focus breathing?
Field curvature is covered but breathing isn’t. The both breathe quite a bit iirc
The West innovates, and the Chinese copy. 👎
Dude chill out💀
great job
Where did you get that light green strap / leash on the black camera ( M10 ) ?
Looks like a Cooph rope strap.
@@anthonymiller8979 thanks dude
Merci! Nice comparisons!
First of all, I need to say that I am not a sino-phobe. However, I hate, detest, I need to throw up, when I see those copied Chinese lenses (I don't care if they have a simialr optical design or not, it is just the pure industrial look). I hate them because they jump onto the marketing train of Leica. Today, with computers and all that gizmo it should be easy to come up with an own product ID. Zeiss, Voigtlander etc did more effort for their own ID. Those XXartisan/xartisan lenses should not even be on the market. It is like the copied cars, the fake Rolex and Omega watches and so on and on. I could go on ranting but I will stop here.
But :
Nikon = Nippon Ikon
Canon, Nicca, etc. = Nippon Leica
@@raining_macondo Yes, this used to be when computers where not readily available in the 1960's and 1970's. Today is today and today is not yesterday. The camera market was more difficult before computers came up. Times have changed and therefore it should be easy to for a Chinese company to develop their own design. I only can reject a company as long as they carry themselvs on the laurels of others.
@@oliverlisonCan definitely agree with that, but in defense, a lot of people may like that vintage authentic look of famous lenses, but the don't have money/don't want to pay such a price for them, so it's good to have alternatives, especially when it's not a copy anymore, but more like a very similarly looking alternative, with different lens structure and etc, plus they're making their own designs of those lenses, like Limited edition Red/Titanium versions of 50mm f0.95 that look drastically different, and pop out a lot, so it's always up to you with what to go to, but unless it's a knock off it's always a great option
You can’t be clinical with testing M mount lenses on a Sony senor. You’re gonna get halo, CA, fringing, and color casting. Rent or borrow an M10 and you’ll find a different conclusion.
Hey Shaun every single test shot besides two comparisons were shot on my M10. The Magenta cast appeared either way and my conclusions were the same. Very well aware of the limitations of a thick filter stack, I used the Sony for the center sharpness and critical focus test on the clock in addition to using my M10 for the exact same test. Thanks for watching!
it's the same shit on m mount with the 0.95, it's a fringing monster.