WARHAMMER Painting Paralysis! Anyone else relate?!
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2023
- With the introduction of the Warhammer 40k 10th Edition and the release of the 40k Leviathan Boxed set I thought I'd talk about painting paralysis.
And no, I didn't buy the Leviathan Box. But did have a little bit of fun in photoshop! Probably about time I got my personality across a little more. :P
You must know that general feeling you get, once in a while, with certain Games Workshop or other models when you really love them and want to do a great job. But that passion can sometimes kill the momentum you have, when the fear is real that you'll make a mess of the shiny new miniatures that you REALLY want to look good!
Anyone else get this? Or is it really just me?
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Nice work on that Evilthan box, you got me for a sec :D
You’re the winner! First one to spot the doctored box! 😜👍🏼
90% of my pile of shame exists for this very reason. You are not alone.
90%! Woah! I thought I had it bad. 🤣
I used to be like this, now I remind myself I don’t paint to make my models look good, i paint for fun, any mistake just adds to the character
Oh I wish I could. I paint for fun but get super annoyed when they don’t look good. 🤣🤣
You are definitely not the only one! I'm a massive fan of kit-bashing and creating unique models, but then once I've made them and are happy with them, I'm then terrified to paint them because I can't just buy new ones if i mess it up! I've got conversion that I made 10 years ago that I've still yet to paint. It's driving me insane!
Wow! I hadn’t even got to the kitbash stage of these models yet. I just now have more of almost the same models!
oh bro, this is me !
I finally got to painting my old kitbashes and it's really satisfying, even though it could be better, and would be if I kept training on painting easier stuff for years.
But it's not worth waiting, and all those bad thoughts
Go for it mate !
Honest words, describing my situation 100%.
Aren’t we a pair! Swimming in a world of thousands of others doing that exact same thing…🤪
I still have metal 'games day' exclusive miniatures in their blister packs from the early 2000s for this exact reason
Ah but I imagine yours are now worth money!
I have completed so many awesome paint schemes for my armys......in my head. You are not alone.
🤣🤣🎯
Something that helped me get over this was taking a bunch of janky, broken space marines with horrible paint jobs from when I was a kid. I cobbled the pieces back together and cleaned any mould lines, etc. then just primed over them without stripping the paint. They turned out great -- any loss of detail was almost imperceptible and you'd never guess there are at least two paint jobs hidden underneath. It was a nice reminder of how forgiving acrylic paints are, and how much time we waste being pedantic over things that don't matter.
Totally! But I love my badly painted, wonky eyed 1980s metal Space marines. It would be “heresy” to paint over them. 🤣
I absolutely feel this. Mountain of shame is massive for this reason. I just struggle with it sometimes. Often. Most of the time.
Yup! Staring down over 1000 models doesn’t make it easier!
When i was a teen i used to think like this of my heroes. I painted basic saurus after basic saurus, and my Slaan is still bare metal to this day.
As an adult i fully embraced the “it’s just paint” style: i can’t improve if i don’t try new things with the risk of messing up. I still want to do my best with my favourite models, but that’s no way i’m “saving” the best ones, waiting for my skill to improve. If it’s ugly, i can still strip it.
There’s no sense in spending a lot of money on a model and not having fun with it for the fear of doing something wrong.
I now choose the model purely seconding my wishes and picking a model compatible with the time i want to spend on the project.
That sounds like a great plan! 👍🏼
+1 to the grey Dominion box set still waiting for some attention on the shelf. One day! One day soon I hope. 🙂
🤣🤣🤣
This exactly. Exactly.
Yeah exactly, totally exactly!! 🤣 oh, aren’t we a pair!
I looked at my pile of grey plastic last year and had a concerted effort to get things off sprues. It turned into the most productive painting period I've had. It was quite exhilarating to see things progress.
All mine are off sprues and built in subassemblies and blu tacked. I always buy and build immediately. Half are even primed and zenithaled. And that’s where I end up. 😂
You are not alone!
For a second there I thought you were quoting Micheal Jackson lyrics…😂😜
Your not the only one I have hundreds of models in lovely shades of grey because I “don’t want to mess them up”. It sucks I have everything I could possible need still not a drop of paint on the models.
🤣🤣 oh man! That makes me feel so much better!!
Yep, likewise! Boxes and boxes of grey that I don't dare start because I can't decide on the 'perfect' approach and I don't have spare copies of all that expensive highly-detailed plastic. You can't screw up a project you never get around to starting, right?
@@curioushybrid 🤣🤣🤣 love that. “You can’t mess a project you don’t start”.
Oh, you are sooooo not alone on this...
I knew people had “piles of shame” but wasn’t sure about the weird buying extra models thing….😜
Probably why my bloodbowl team looks amazing, it’s still in the box 😂 mind you, that goes for that second team I got. Hmm and the captains……you might be onto something here 😂
I often wonder why we do this to ourselves. Still, much less plastic to recycle!🤣
I am in the exact same position with Dominion although I have painted some Stormbringer orruks to test a brown orange colour scheme
Funny isn’t it. We all really wanted the box and then…..tumbleweeds!
Trust me I’m just starting on warhammer mini painting, I come from the armor and aircraft side of the hobby and wanting to wait till your good enough to build the next kit is a thing in every aspect of this hobby. I’m in your situation right now, someone told me if you don’t build you won’t get better I suggest picking up some kits that you’re not a fan (tyranids) of and practicing on them so who cares if they look like crap
Oh I can paint. I just can’t ever decide on a scheme. I always worry that if I do blue scheme, when finished I’d then think “Red would’ve been better”. 🤣🤣 Then I do red and think “hmm, I prefer yellow”!
Definitely done this.. a LOT. All my life. I spent a lot of effort trying to convince myself that things don't have to be perfect and I'll never get better if I don't just get in and do it.. but the big thing that really solved it for me was kinda simple. Expensive, but simple. I just bought 2. Maybe not the big army boxes, but if it was a fancy terminator box like Grey Knight Paladins.. or an Armiger.. I just bought 2 boxes.
One was my test model that I'd build according to the instructions, then prime and zenithal with a good solvent primer and base coat, so even if I stripped them that base zenithal likely won't come off, then maybe even a lacquer varnish for good measure.. then just painted it like whatever. Sometimes randomly.. different color scheme for each limb. So built to spec, colored however. The second one was the opposite. Now that I knew how they go together, and even have some spare bits and a model I'm fine cutting up, I'd always tweak and modify the second one to make it personal and unique, then use the experiences in painting the first to make a nice paint scheme for the second.
So far it's worked well; when I can get motivated to paint at all. At least I don't feel like 'that model's too fancy' anymore.
Yeah, I totally het where you’re coming from. But don’t you think all models are ‘fancy’ now? So many fine details, pouches, packs, belts and now loads of them expect you to freehand all these patterns on them too.
I miss the 80s. A lump of pewter barely even sculpted with blob for a head and a gun sticking out. Simple! You couldn’t make a mess because they were already a mess! 🤣🤣
@thestateofplay2023 Well.. that might be why I just naturally buy two of all models now. >.> Not a cheap way of doing it, but seems to make me feel better about diving in to one. I always have this sorta voice in the back of my head 'Well, if I screw this up, it's okay, I have another!'
@@stormycatmink it should work like that in real life.
“Oops, the wife is angry. Oh well, I’ll talk to the spare one instead.” 🤣
@@andybillco2424 See kids: Dad says no, lets go ask mom. ;)
Oh you are not alone. I have a whole closet of models I don't want to "ruin" it's a common thing for us collector's I think.
Yes, it’s seems we’re all collectors of boxes with sprues in them! 🤣
You're not the only one brother, happens to everybody once in a while. I'm pretty new into the hobby and I felt that way about the new Snikrot. You gotta roll up those sleeves and crack on boiz. That's what Ghazghkull would want ! (I know it was sigmar leave me alone Orks is best)
If only it was “once in a while”!
You , my friend, are my brother from another mother. Your logic is tracks exactly like mine. However, you have shelves of great looking stuff. I've, on the other hand, have been stuck in paralysis through analysis for years.
Might be the same mother. I mean who knows what went on in the 60s. Flower power, free love…
Not much Warhammer though. 😜😜
YES! I've had mephiston, dante and mortarion primed and waiting forever now haha
You, at least got them primed!! 🤣
Lol …yup, every model and at every stage … fear the acrylic!
🤣🤣 oh yeah, I’d forgotten about my half painted Sisters of Battle!
Yep, me too! “I feel seen” would apply to this video. I’ve done almost exactly the same thing with the dominion box, and picked up 3 copies of the first 2 mags. I’ve finally painted up one of those models to test a scheme!
Aha!! You did the same! Amazing! Well, not amazing for both of us as we still have grey plastic but still - we’re not alone.
You are among friends here... We meet secretly meet and confess how many layers of pre-painting we have purchased.
One of our members went so far down the rabbit hole that he ended up re-purchasing his original box!
Thanks! Seem you rabbit holed quite a few of my videos. Welcome. 🤣
You're not the only one!!))
Not the only one!! I did the EXACT same thing! How’s about a video on getting past it :) ! Cheers
Funny you say that. I’ve been thinking about this exact thing! Watch this space!
I avoid this by thinking about my paint scheme of my next project while painting my current one. So when my current one is done (that I solved while painting my previous one). My scheme is all fleshed out and I'm excited to start...then while painting I think about my next project.
Hmm, I’m not sure that would work with me. Thinking about the next project would kill momentum for my current one. Then I’d end up with half finished jobs. Oh, wait. I do have half finished jobs.
@@thestateofplay2023 😅
Amen brother
If only preying got me through my backlog. ..
This is 100% my thought process and I have the pile of shame to prove it.
Phew! Not just me then.
YES!!!! My Shatterpoint minis are waiting for the paint!!! I will just spoil them!
And my kahradron overlords…
And my… yeah I have a lot in the box that I will “mess” up…
I’ve told myself Shatterpoint is the last box now I have to paint stuff 🤔
Famous last words…. Until the next box!
Same here. It used to be due to the social aspect of the game. You want your models to look as good as possible even though you'll be blown off the table by an elite bike army. Then it was for competition, you got points in most LFGS tournie and leagues for a well painted army. Now I don't play at clubs. I don't enter competitions and I don't participate in leagues. So what's my excuse now? Well, I don't compete in tournaments, participate in leagues and don't even play socially anymore.
I do post to Instagram for Orktober and 'Nidvember.
I hadn’t thought about it like that. Also, have to admit I’d never heard of Nidvember. Probably cause I’m not so much a Nids fan.
oh yeah, relatable af
We all love buying and building minis, but painting is much harder worker, no matter how you like it.
I made lots of beautiful kitbashes a long time ago, but I never got to paint them because I was afraid I wasn't talented enough yet to honor them, and then I dropped the hobby.
When I resumed, I had the same feeling, until I told myself "screw it", don't buy more before this is painted.
I trained on Imperium collection to refresh my skills, and got to painting my old works.
And I'm satisfied with the result, it surely could be better, but you can't postpone forever
There's pleasure in seeing progress, even if it's slow. Just don't look at your pile of shame, and stop making it bigger.
I do wonder whether the buying is the addiction and not the painting or the playing. 🤔
Certainly not the only one, most go through such phases - a poorly painted model (and that can be super subjective), is always better than an unpainted/unassemnled one. The best way to improve is to paint and continue to paint. Go, paint, have fun - start the improver cycle - the procrastinator cycle had its chance..
Phases? Hmm, I started in 1985. This is a very long phase. 🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 Well at least there are acrylic paints now rather than just enamels - give them a go 👍
Hahah. Yes, Humbrol metal tin enamels. I remember them well! My first paints before moving to the Citadel Monster Paint set!
Being competent at stripping painted models (ultrasonics and degreaser go a long way, particularly on metal models) I don't have much paralysis - except when I painted an old Mordheim miniature which was a collectible my buddy got for me for my birthday. I was more concerned about painting it well, which I eventually did. I think he'd spent "too much" money to get it for me, so I was just anxious about making it look an absolute turd.
Ok that story makes sense. None of us want a turd to show our friends after a gift. 🤣
I literally weigh up buying 2 of things for this exact reason.
Just like the movie Contact. “Why build one, when you can build two - at twice the price!” 🤣🤣
No you're not the only one that's done this. I'm looking at five different Warhammer 40K and age of Sigmar armies that are over 3,000 Points each that I have put together but can't bring myself to put paint to it because I'm afraid of messing it up. Sad aren't we. Why is it that we do this to ourselves? Because to me painting is my favorite part of the hobby, I clicked the miniatures, not necessarily to play but paint in collect.🤔
I think we all might overestimate how much free time we really have. And then when the minis pile up the task becomes so big, and so long, we unconsciously find a reason not to do it. 🤣🤣
Definitely not alone. However something that helped me was that I bought a Cerastus Knight Achon from Forge World. Its 430 CAD now though was less when I bought it. Took me months to paint it cause of how much money I spent on it I didn't want to mess it up. Either with building or painting.
One day I just said screw it and started it. Since then I haven't had an issue. My logic is if I could do that model a single model from one of those boxes that cost almost half is nothing.
This may not work for everyone but since then my pile has only been diminishing.
Yeah, sounds much better than slapchopping everything and then regretting it.
@@thestateofplay2023 for real. I get why people like slapchop and speed painting, but I'd rather an army I'm proud of than a larger army that I'm so so on.
@@kai_the_shark9044 yeah, I tried slapchop. And I thought, “oh look. A drybrushed model with contrast on it….”. Even with extra layers and detail it was still “meh”.
I fear that I may have entered a period of this, I've made the first purchase towards a new Eldar Exodite project that I've been kicking around in my head for sometime. It needs a lot more kits just soni can kitbash things a bit, but I really want to paint them nicely and I've never actually painted an Eldar model before ..... I can see this getting very real in the not too distant future. Still, Jain Zar is only a highly detailed character figure right? She's ideal as a test model for a range I'm entirely unfamiliar with!
🤣🤣🤣 and I thought I had it bad. You’re kitbashing AND using character models! Woah! I salute you sir.
It's just you. You're the only one. Feel the inadequacy. Feel the shame!
Really though, I don't suffer much from paint paralysis. More a case of painting interest retention disorder. Every time I start a model, I'm already thinking of the next project and planning how to do it. Takes a lot of mental discipline to get projects done.
I should introduce you to my half painted Sisters of Battle, my Goliath, my Ork Kommandos and my primed Nighthaunt.
I’ll finish yours. You finish mine. 😂
@@thestateofplay2023 sounds like a plan. I'll send my guard, Ultramarines, stormcast and some war of the roses chaps.
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🤣🤣 If I thought the painful truth of NOT painting a model worked - I’d have made it my very first video! Thanks for subscribing!!
Mine is finding a paint scheme that I want to commit to a full army! What if I don’t like it 40 models in??! 😅
🤣🤣 Totally. I did that with my Necrons. Painted loads and then thought, “well, I hate that scheme!”.
Are you my long lost twin? 🤣 I am terrible for this.
I have 25 year old minis from when I was a kid where I didn't want to paint them for fear of wrecking them. I certainly don't want to paint them now that they are old and rare!
I get around it these days by either buying more than I need (like you) or painting something from a different army that interests me less while I get into the zone for the "good" models. All a bit mad!
Yup, I have 33 year old minis I never painted. From the mid 80s!!
Here I am in the comments to tell you that you are not alone.
Thank you Gene! Makes me feel much better!
The combination of 1. pile of shame stressing me out and 2. accepting I'll never win best painted makes me quite good at just going for it. I also don't bother with adhering to a single static color scheme so I don't need to feel obliged about perfecting something.
Yeah that seems a great approach!
The amount of terrain I have piled up for this very reason is humiliating. I’m hoping my wife never finds out how much is actually in that closet 🙈
Ahahaha!! 🤣 There’s a video in itself!
What helped me get a grip on my terrian kits was breaking them out to learn how to use an airbrush. I didn't want to learn how to use an airbrush on my models due to my "painting paralysis", so out came the gray terrain pieces, paints, and airbrush. The terrain pieces were the perfect practice pieces because they didn't require the level of detail that models did and could be painted in more of a grimdark color scheme.
Wouldn't you know it, eventually I got better at airbrushing and started priming my models with the airbrush. Then, I was able to airbrush the bases and then the first layer on models. Gradually, I got better at airbrushing models and discovered that it can be much faster to paint them with an airbrush, especially the rank and file troops.
Now my biggest problem is finding space to display and store my completed terrain and miniatures!
I've also become addicted to buying more paint sets, having most recent purchased the Army Painter SpeedPaint 2.0 set and figuring out where to put 90 more bottles of paint while I decide to use them with a standard brush or to use an airbrush!
@@GeneJordan yeah, I have the exact same storage problem. The room doesn’t get any bigger but the contents always grow!!
You're not the only one 🙂
I’m getting that feeling….😜
My backlog of minis exists because of this and the fact that I am a slow painter. Not a great combo for painting any army.
🤣 I know the feeling. Armies are something other people have. I have lots of potential armies.
Where did you get those ninja sanding sticks?
They’re AMMO by Mig (AK Interactive) sanding sticks. And the smooth one is a large women’s nail file I cut to size. (A large nail file. Not a large woman). 🤣
only in the last month have i painted the Death guard marines from the 8th edition....i know your pain :)
And then you find all the rules changed and you need to change out all the weapons!! So you have to buy more Death Guard! That’s how they trap you…🤣🤣
Sadly... you are not alone
I have to say, the comments are making me feel a lot better about grey plastic!
Sigh....yup.
So it would seem! 😩
Yeeess, i have colors i have ideas, i have no skill sets and the fear of sxrewing up is unnnreaal. Plus i have a hard time being unique, im a little basic it seems 😶
Join the ever expanding club. That’s how we all feel!
100%
Probably more like 120% at GW prices!
I think everybody does this. In the classes I (occasionally) teach, I often hear something like, "I'm waiting to paint that until I'm good enough."
What follows is an exhortation. If you don't have the energy for one of those, please pass this by and read the comments from one of the other fine commenters here. You have been warned. 8-)
Life is too short to paint minis you don't _love_. Paint it now and if you screw it up, they'll make more. It's so much easier to sit down to spend time with beautiful (for some value of "beautiful" that includes undead or Cthulhan horrors or whatever) miniatures than to sit down to "practice minis".
By the time you do "get good enough" you probably won't want to paint those first minis anymore anyway. Do it now!
And save the minis you do now to remind yourself that you really have gotten better. It often doesn't feel that way.
Amen to that!!
Hehehe, no your not the only one who has done that, in fact far from it, how do you think GW makes so much money and why players have what are called piles of shame :)
🤣🤣🤣 well, I don’t believe in shame. I see it as solving the world’s plastic recycling crisis, one sprue at a time!
Well... You're not! ;) (lol)
I knew it!!!! 👍🏼
Buy a set of plastic soldiers and train on them... It won't be a shame to spoil those...?
🤣🤣 Haha! I don’t need training. I’ve painted for 33 years. What I need is the ability to decide what I want. 🤣🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 I meant, of course, to practice painting schemes on toy soldiers.
@@Kazad22 I’d still probably not be able to decide what colours to do the toy soldiers. 🤣🤣 Then I’d have minis AND toy soldiers unpainted! 😜😜
@@thestateofplay2023 Good with those unpainted soldiers, I hadn't considered that. After buying Leviathan, I glued a few models and I started to have similar doubts about painting. I left painting for a while, dealing with a different universe, in my case flames of war. I'll see if I can come up with something clever after refreshing the receptors. I don't know not everyone will like this way of working (many projects at once). Sometimes it's worth flipping the switch ;) So, you're not the only one with this blocking problem.
Yeah, I bounce between 40k, Sigmar, board games, Necromunda, Kill Team, Stargrave and more.
Sometimes painting one, confuses the other. “NO!! These ones have swords not guns!!”.
Feeling really called out right now and I don't like it. :p
If the cap fits. And it seems it’s one size fits all!! 😂
Just do what I do: watch youtube videos of other people painting their models! After 15 years of reading plogs and watching vlogs, you'll have a small mountain of unpainted plastic, 50 million hours of your life wasted, and absolutely nothing to show for it. Actually... don't do what I do.
🤣🤣🤣 oh God, that made me laugh! That I absolutely relate to!