You called it, they made the 14900KS into a 200 dollar premium of a 10% or lower chance at getting a nice bin (SP 110+) Highest bin you can get is 121 I believe. I've de-lidded mine but simply just don't have any true excitement to tear my shit apart and replace it all out yet... I just wanna game. Kinda regret buying it but got it for almost free. Edit: Mine turned out to be 104 Global SP, 118 Pcores 76 Ecores MCSP 76. Ran 8000 XMP out of the box and was Karhu stable.
I had a good experience with my 14900KS. PC Specks are Z790 Apex, GSkill 8000 Ram, Arctic liquid Freezer II 420mm AIO, 4090 GPU. No overclock, just XMP for the memory. 5.9ghz on all P Cores and 4.5ghz on the E Cores. Core Voltage 1.36, Package Temps in the low 70s. Cenebench scores mid 39,000 range. Then used the AI overclock Tool in the Bios. 3ea P-cores were at 6.2mhz and the rest at 5.9. E-cores stayed at 4.5. Cenebench scores were over 40,000 for 4 runs until my AIO became saturated with heat. Package temps during Gaming were in the high 70s for all COD Games. Core voltage though was around 1.4 to 1.5 and the wattage on the CPU was around 250 to 270. This 420mm Aio cooler is keeping this chip cool enough to game without any crashes except when I push the GPU to its maximum. I'm also using (6ea) 140mm fans on it in a push pull configuration and ramping them up. I put everything back to stock at 5.9 and 4.5 on the cores to just run it cooler and I'm getting good temps and no crashes, and the FPS are around 450 at 1440P. I'm Happy I made the purchase. Love the channel, keep it coming.
My 14900KS boosts to 6.2ghz out of the box is that not what it does for everyone? The only thing I've touched in the bios is the XMP and fan curves. The Gigabyte Aorus Z790 Pro X defaults to the Extreme profile. I even flashed the July BIOS update and applied defaults, previous bios was the 2023 version. I've never had any crashes in any games and it's been incredibly stable. I have a 360mm AIO and I'm sitting at 55-60c in Dragon's Dogma 2. I feel like I'm doing something wrong or not actually boosting or pushing the CPU to the limits like everyone else that has stability issues. I bought this CPU for fun and it's kind of boring, it just works. For now anyways.
sold my car to buy this bad boy with a delid waterblock 7 radiators 3 water pumps connected to a external mo-ra thats screwed to the front of my ac unit to keep this bad mammy jammy gigacold im about to be maximum of the maximum fps
Ive been using GSKILL 32gb 8000mhz kit with both my previous 13900KS, and 14900KS on XMP and they are both 24 hr karhu stable. This is of course with a arctic freezer III 420 AIO on a Z790 apex encore mobo. The 14900KS seems to have fluctuations with voltages between BIOS versions, ive found 1002 to be the most consistent and "less" power hungry. Your paying for around 200mhz more in a stock configuration. CoD runs beautifully. Yes the 14900KS is slightly better than the 13900KS, its the top of the top. I will point out though, the ASUS BIOS versions make a HUGEEEEEE difference on the new 14900KS.
I have a 14700K because I know it was a 13900K, which was a 12900K, etc. LoL!!! They are all the same, save a little cache, a little frequency, and e-core count. Womp Womp. LoL!!
@@Twitch_Moderator Intel tried to pull an AM4 with LGA1700 but the truth is they apparently can't improve shit without replacing the whole socket and architecture.
Intel releases an oc’d cpu for their fanbois, slap another $250 for it, and simply add a S on the end of the model number. Uneducated Fanbois line up with their cash and their pants down.
I never understood having to be 1st place. That is a heavy burden to carry everywhere one goes in life. Always stressed out at competitors that nip at your heels... If you have objects that get the job done for you, good for you. Be happy. Stop chasing an infinity rainbow. There is no end to it. LoL!!
@@Twitch_Moderator Being content and being competitive are not synonymous nor are they separate. They can mingle and mix...and also exist individual to one another. The exact inverse of this logic is how you are able to type this comment, on the internet. when you did. Competition and cooperation. If everyone settled for second, third or worse and finished their drive and determination there we likely would still be riding on horseback. We also wouldn't have base clock speed averages on most processors of around 4-5ghz. Competition and determination are innate human character traits, almost inseparable, that encourage, not only the drive to win, but develop eventually into cooperation and innovation uniting individual creative function with societal cooperation. Pushing for first place is a good thing.
I WISH I could beat games. Super ADHD guy here. I am lucky to play a game long enough to remember character names or plots. LoL!! Only a handful of the hundreds of games I have ever played have been beaten by me.
@@Twitch_Moderator Thats unfortunate. I pride myself on not just playing games but actually beating them. I have a list of all the games I've beaten on PC. Im someone that doesn't like to move on to a new game until I beat the one Im currently on, If im into it.
I guess the only difference is it doesn’t void the warranty to de-lid it. Which kind of makes me wonder why they weren’t shipped with no IHS for direct die cooling, which is pretty much a must to get any gains over the average 14900k, I mean you had one there with SP106, I think a 14900k with SP of 115 would be better, maybe they are all binned above 105, which is not that rare in the non KS.
Very happy with my 14900KS upgrade from an OC'd 13900K. 6.2GHz on 3 cores. 5.9GHz all core with 4.5Ghz E Cores with only a simple Asus AI tune so far. Delid this weekend! Expecting 6GHz all P cores with HT and all E Cores enabled with manual tuning. Custom loop. I'm running a Z790 Hero that would only run my 7200MTs 48GB kit at 7000. The 14900K has an MC SP of 86 and runs them at 7600 with no FAFO. Worth it for me!
Funny how this shows up first when I type 14900ks and every other video on the page (with 10x the viewership) is saying how asinine this “product” is. I wonder what could have happened for it to reach the top of search results 🧐 🤔
My 14900KS is running perfectly fine on an AIO. Stock out of the box with the P-cores all set at 5.9 and the E-cores set at 4.5 and just enabled XMP. Core Voltage is 1.35 and the temps are in the mid to low 70s. I played 4 different COD games and never crashed. I dont know why all these Tech heads want to slam this chip. I had a 13900K before and this chip beats it hands down. The 14th Gen runs more efficient and I could only get my 13900K to run stable at 5.5 to 5.6 and it would crash quite often. I can get even more out of it on the AI overclock tool in the bios. Up to 6.2 on 3 cores but the voltage and temps go up to much and it just gets to hot and its not worth the hassle so Im leaving it at 5.9 all P cores.
I went through 5 14900k samples trying to get an above average one. Most were actually bad, but got annoyed and settled the on the most average one I had. With the KS releasing, I figured I'd just go with that to get a better binned 14900k. Popped it in with the same bios setup and undervolt as my 14900k, and it immediately crashed when put under any load. Messing around with it to get the same temps as my 14900k, it actually performs worse. The IMC is worse, and the E cores are worse. P cores are slightly better, though. So, now I'm wondering what exactly makes a KS a KS? What I'd different about it for it to get that designations? Does it just have to have like 1% better than average P cores or something? From what I can tell from using it, it is LITERALLY just a 14900k they slapped and "S" on the end of. I have no clue how they decide if it's a K or KS, or what actual difference there is, other than being overclocked/overvolted out of the box. Well, MORE so than the 14900k, at least. I can take my 14900k, and change the clock speeds and voltages, and have it perform identically to the KS. There's nothing offered you couldn't do with a 14900k. What's funny, is doing the "Asus AI overclock" my 14900k is actually FASTER than then KS out of the box. Was considering returning/replacing, because I though maybe I just got a fucked up one or something, but IDK now.
did you do a full bios reset first? I had a faulty 13900k and replaced it with a 14900k and needed to do a bios reset and reinstall windows or it would completely fail and crash the system.
I had gotten the 14900k on a great sale at Micro Center, but it was abysmally poor binned. Couldn't get either a G.Skill TZ5 48gb 8000MT or even a Dominator Titanium 7200 kit to run stable in XMP. Frustrated the hell outta me. The KS was released when I had 1 day left on my return window so I decided to return it and grab a KS. With the discount for using their Insider card, I paid around $100 extra. Unfortunately this chip isn't the best bining either. Only a SP99. But the scores are all better than the K I returned. Especially the IMC, 82 vs a pitiful 70. Still trying to get everything stable to handle the workload of gaming and streaming simultaneously. And the occasional art project or video editing. Still, its been a frustrating build. My last build utilized the 11900k on the Z590 Apex mobo, and it took me a couple days to learn all the new settings and figured out how to get it running stable and relatively cool. Now there's even more to learn with 14th gen lol! Seems these chips are rather finicky with tuning.
HOW INTEL STOLE $285 from me? I bought an open box Core i9 from the largest vendor in the US and maybe the world. The CPU did not work so I sent it to Intel for warranty repair or replace because the model itself was less than a year old so it must be under warranty. Open box and demo units are treated like new by manufacturers regarding warranty. Intel told me that the CPU was not genuine and refused to return it. The vendor said they will refund me if I send the CPU back. Intel refused. So Intel, the crook, & the vendor profited and the victim paid the price. Later I found out that CPU lids can be swapped as long as they are the same socket. So if you have a dead Celeron lid swapped with a new i9 lid, then return the dead Celeron for an i9 refund and keep the i9 CPU. That is a serious design flaw that Intel should pay for not the victims. Intel have not changed the flawed design on their latest models.
@@ManOfF1re Those Reviewers dont actually play games. Thats the problem. Anybody can hit the run button on a Benchmark. That doesn't tell the whole story.
@@NBWDOUGHBOYThat is very true. Synthetic benchmarks are trash. I love Intel. But I'm not a biased trash-talker. I also love AMD. I have had both throughout my many decades, gaming. In gaming, AMD does usually win over Intel for FPS. But it depends on the game and the generation of processors in question. Since Intel's 6th gen (DDR4 platform) and AMD's AM4 platform, AMD has had a lead in gaming, on a lot of titles.
I got 8000 stable on my 14900KF in Karhu and TM5 but then failed y-cruncher VT3 within a minute. Now I just try y-cruncher first, then TM5 and finally Karhu. I am on 3rd 14900K/KF and 8000 is still not 100% stable, all these CPUs I bought in my country seem to be very low bin SP96~SP97. Apex Encore mobo. 8000 is not really as "easy" as it sounds and like we saw on this video not all CPUs can do 8000 XMP. That being said in my experience the RAM sticks can also do a major difference. 14900KS incoming and my hopes are not high.
I daily my delidded 13900k at 5.9 all core at 1.36v, so better than a 14900KS out the box. It also does 8000 cl34, 27 hours karhu stable. I know I’ve got some good silicon but still, it’s three generations old. Pointless release from Intel
@@ItsRyflex lets be honest r23 is ass... i can pass it at 5.1 cache and 5.0 but will crash instantly on battlefield 2042... i can get 5.0 stable but with a lot of vcore.
FFS i just got my 14900K a week ago i delidded slapped on LM and a new Copper IHS i waited to see if this would actually become real. And of course every other tech tuber this is the last of its kind is what eating away at me as i always have to max out a sockets potential or ram. Like my Synology Nas it has 64GB of ram just because. Now this maybe ill order that direct die from EK. But then again my 14900K regularly guzzles back 1.54v
What I would like to know do you have the latest bios installed and are you using Ram that is specified by the manufacturer's website for the actual motherboard If you match the barcode of the ram to the barcode on the manufacturer's website of the motherboard The XMP profiles are supposed to work out of the box for 8000 memory and that's the bottom line cuz the manufacturer says so
They somehow manage to make it more niche with every KS. I just wished they could offer it delided in a basic tray variant. But I guess intel sees this as a product for whales and the stock sales so... why bother.
Hi, which CPU is better for overclocking? My i7 13700K (SP89) manages 6.1 GHz, the cpu is capped with liquid metal on it and has a full copper IHS on it from Rockitcool. Question: Which CPU is best for overclocking? i7-13700K, i9-13900K, i9-13900KS, i7-14700K, i9-14900K, or i9-14900KS My cooler has a maximum TDP of 300 watts. Thank you I am a fan of yours. :)
I have question, what should i get I5 14600kf with Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 MOTHERBOARD or R7 5800x3d with ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WiFi II AMD AM4, both of them with ddr4 ram 3200mhz i play RUST
If you already have a 13900K there's no need to upgrade to 14900 KS... Also if you play in 4K the performance is the same as the 13900K because it's GPU bound. 14900 KS is for new builders.... Not to upgrade from a 13900K
You may have over tightened your cooler, the memory controller is super finicky to too much pressure. When I was overtorqued I couldn't even dream of posting 7200 XMP with my 14900K, could barely do 6000.
Maybe, but I already tried several combinations of voltages, even tried the new AI training from the latest msi bios, I have an ace max, but I'm pretty sure is the cpu, can't even handle 5.6ghz without crashing
Not going to happen, monolithic dies are uh well they are dead. We are almost certainly at the end of the frequency supremacy era based on what we know about the upcoming platforms. Intel is going the chiplet route for 15th gen so the only monolithic cpu's are probably the "G" sku's from AMD. The current 9.125 MHz on liquid helium will probably hold strong unless they decide to give it another go but even then we are talking 9.250 GHz or so max. The 5 digit 10000 MHz is a pipe dream
Then the 15700K comes out. LoL! My rule is that there will always be something better. Stop chasing the dragon and settle down with something powerful, yet it won't cost a ton.
Why you spend $250 more The answer is to have the best cutting Edge piece of silicone thats out For a gaming UA-cam channel Even if it doesn't do anything it is still top tier and creates curiosity for viewers hopefully that answers your question
After seeing his “review” of the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, I would say you should go elsewhere. Gamer’s Nexus is notorious for being highly reliable for everything they do and have meticulously set up controlled environments to test hardware on different system configurations in different games. I would highly recommend Gamer’s Nexus.
"they're just trying to lootbox XOC nerds with this thing"
That killed me 😂
You called it, they made the 14900KS into a 200 dollar premium of a 10% or lower chance at getting a nice bin (SP 110+) Highest bin you can get is 121 I believe. I've de-lidded mine but simply just don't have any true excitement to tear my shit apart and replace it all out yet... I just wanna game. Kinda regret buying it but got it for almost free.
Edit: Mine turned out to be 104 Global SP, 118 Pcores 76 Ecores MCSP 76. Ran 8000 XMP out of the box and was Karhu stable.
I had a good experience with my 14900KS. PC Specks are Z790 Apex, GSkill 8000 Ram, Arctic liquid Freezer II 420mm AIO, 4090 GPU. No overclock, just XMP for the memory. 5.9ghz on all P Cores and 4.5ghz on the E Cores. Core Voltage 1.36, Package Temps in the low 70s. Cenebench scores mid 39,000 range. Then used the AI overclock Tool in the Bios. 3ea P-cores were at 6.2mhz and the rest at 5.9. E-cores stayed at 4.5. Cenebench scores were over 40,000 for 4 runs until my AIO became saturated with heat. Package temps during Gaming were in the high 70s for all COD Games. Core voltage though was around 1.4 to 1.5 and the wattage on the CPU was around 250 to 270. This 420mm Aio cooler is keeping this chip cool enough to game without any crashes except when I push the GPU to its maximum. I'm also using (6ea) 140mm fans on it in a push pull configuration and ramping them up. I put everything back to stock at 5.9 and 4.5 on the cores to just run it cooler and I'm getting good temps and no crashes, and the FPS are around 450 at 1440P. I'm Happy I made the purchase. Love the channel, keep it coming.
sounds like my 14900k....(next guy: sounds like my 13900k) lol
@@thebigbient8736 Next guy: sounds like my 7950x3...Crashes*
My 14900KS boosts to 6.2ghz out of the box is that not what it does for everyone? The only thing I've touched in the bios is the XMP and fan curves. The Gigabyte Aorus Z790 Pro X defaults to the Extreme profile. I even flashed the July BIOS update and applied defaults, previous bios was the 2023 version. I've never had any crashes in any games and it's been incredibly stable. I have a 360mm AIO and I'm sitting at 55-60c in Dragon's Dogma 2. I feel like I'm doing something wrong or not actually boosting or pushing the CPU to the limits like everyone else that has stability issues. I bought this CPU for fun and it's kind of boring, it just works. For now anyways.
sold my car to buy this bad boy with a delid waterblock 7 radiators 3 water pumps connected to a external mo-ra thats screwed to the front of my ac unit to keep this bad mammy jammy gigacold im about to be maximum of the maximum fps
@@idrinktapwater6174 you have to compensate for the powerdraw in some way right?
Found this channel and binged your videos, this is the content I need. Thank you mate, love this.
You should add a disclaimer: "This video was not produced for regular viewers; I just want to play my games."
Ive been using GSKILL 32gb 8000mhz kit with both my previous 13900KS, and 14900KS on XMP and they are both 24 hr karhu stable. This is of course with a arctic freezer III 420 AIO on a Z790 apex encore mobo. The 14900KS seems to have fluctuations with voltages between BIOS versions, ive found 1002 to be the most consistent and "less" power hungry. Your paying for around 200mhz more in a stock configuration. CoD runs beautifully. Yes the 14900KS is slightly better than the 13900KS, its the top of the top. I will point out though, the ASUS BIOS versions make a HUGEEEEEE difference on the new 14900KS.
Holy shit a 13900K uhhh I mean 13900KS uhhhh I mean 14900K uhhh I mean 14900KS 😱😱😱
I have a 14700K because I know it was a 13900K, which was a 12900K, etc. LoL!!! They are all the same, save a little cache, a little frequency, and e-core count.
Womp Womp. LoL!!
@@Twitch_Moderatoryeah it's all a huge marketing scam. No real leap in energy and performance architecture has happened lately
$700+ for this ? LOL
@@Twitch_Moderator Intel tried to pull an AM4 with LGA1700 but the truth is they apparently can't improve shit without replacing the whole socket and architecture.
@@Twitch_Moderator Work with small scale AI models and game too?
Intel releases an oc’d cpu for their fanbois, slap another $250 for it, and simply add a S on the end of the model number. Uneducated Fanbois line up with their cash and their pants down.
FACS
I never understood having to be 1st place. That is a heavy burden to carry everywhere one goes in life. Always stressed out at competitors that nip at your heels...
If you have objects that get the job done for you, good for you. Be happy. Stop chasing an infinity rainbow. There is no end to it. LoL!!
There’s only one other line to join sooooooo?
@@kramnull8962 Yes and that is a giant sack of AMD.
@@Twitch_Moderator
Being content and being competitive are not synonymous nor are they separate. They can mingle and mix...and also exist individual to one another.
The exact inverse of this logic is how you are able to type this comment, on the internet. when you did. Competition and cooperation.
If everyone settled for second, third or worse and finished their drive and determination there we likely would still be riding on horseback. We also wouldn't have base clock speed averages on most processors of around 4-5ghz.
Competition and determination are innate human character traits, almost inseparable, that encourage, not only the drive to win, but develop eventually into cooperation and innovation uniting individual creative function with societal cooperation.
Pushing for first place is a good thing.
It is simple, 200$ cost to print "S" letter 😁
I appreciate how you always bring it back to games. Shout out to the ppl that Play and Beat games.
I WISH I could beat games. Super ADHD guy here. I am lucky to play a game long enough to remember character names or plots. LoL!!
Only a handful of the hundreds of games I have ever played have been beaten by me.
@@Twitch_Moderator Thats unfortunate. I pride myself on not just playing games but actually beating them. I have a list of all the games I've beaten on PC. Im someone that doesn't like to move on to a new game until I beat the one Im currently on, If im into it.
"I don't know what Intel was thinking here honestly"... they were thinking "how can we milk our simps harder".
I too game at 720p to see the benefit of my CPU on my 120hz monitor.
I bought one the night they came out then cancelled the order the following morning.... and now I'm glad i did
I guess the only difference is it doesn’t void the warranty to de-lid it. Which kind of makes me wonder why they weren’t shipped with no IHS for direct die cooling, which is pretty much a must to get any gains over the average 14900k, I mean you had one there with SP106, I think a 14900k with SP of 115 would be better, maybe they are all binned above 105, which is not that rare in the non KS.
Oh I definitely need to upgrade from my 6ghz 14900K and 8200mts otherwise I'll have a competitive disadvantage :(
Very happy with my 14900KS upgrade from an OC'd 13900K. 6.2GHz on 3 cores. 5.9GHz all core with 4.5Ghz E Cores with only a simple Asus AI tune so far. Delid this weekend! Expecting 6GHz all P cores with HT and all E Cores enabled with manual tuning. Custom loop. I'm running a Z790 Hero that would only run my 7200MTs 48GB kit at 7000. The 14900K has an MC SP of 86 and runs them at 7600 with no FAFO. Worth it for me!
Disable Hyperthreading and E Cores. The temps will go down and you'll be able to overclock even more
and hit 100% usage in games at the same time :)
Omg 14900ks + 0.5ms timer resolution ultra registry tweak = COMPETE
And then you still need that over 9000mhz ram to support upcomeing dragon ball z 5D in unreal engine 69
@@ognjenjakovljevic494 MTS*
Deliding the 14900KS is a game changer. P Cores will run at 6 gigahertz and the temps are 10c cooler than on an AIO.
Thank you Supporters of the Channel!
thanks for testing these out and using a transparent testing with sample sizes.
im waiting for your 15900k bundle to upgrade my 5950x.
Funny how this shows up first when I type 14900ks and every other video on the page (with 10x the viewership) is saying how asinine this “product” is. I wonder what could have happened for it to reach the top of search results 🧐 🤔
My 14900KS is running perfectly fine on an AIO. Stock out of the box with the P-cores all set at 5.9 and the E-cores set at 4.5 and just enabled XMP. Core Voltage is 1.35 and the temps are in the mid to low 70s. I played 4 different COD games and never crashed. I dont know why all these Tech heads want to slam this chip. I had a 13900K before and this chip beats it hands down. The 14th Gen runs more efficient and I could only get my 13900K to run stable at 5.5 to 5.6 and it would crash quite often. I can get even more out of it on the AI overclock tool in the bios. Up to 6.2 on 3 cores but the voltage and temps go up to much and it just gets to hot and its not worth the hassle so Im leaving it at 5.9 all P cores.
14:10 basically sums it up. "so what the Hell is the extra $200 for!?" LoL 😂
I went through 5 14900k samples trying to get an above average one. Most were actually bad, but got annoyed and settled the on the most average one I had.
With the KS releasing, I figured I'd just go with that to get a better binned 14900k. Popped it in with the same bios setup and undervolt as my 14900k, and it immediately crashed when put under any load. Messing around with it to get the same temps as my 14900k, it actually performs worse. The IMC is worse, and the E cores are worse. P cores are slightly better, though.
So, now I'm wondering what exactly makes a KS a KS? What I'd different about it for it to get that designations? Does it just have to have like 1% better than average P cores or something? From what I can tell from using it, it is LITERALLY just a 14900k they slapped and "S" on the end of. I have no clue how they decide if it's a K or KS, or what actual difference there is, other than being overclocked/overvolted out of the box. Well, MORE so than the 14900k, at least. I can take my 14900k, and change the clock speeds and voltages, and have it perform identically to the KS. There's nothing offered you couldn't do with a 14900k. What's funny, is doing the "Asus AI overclock" my 14900k is actually FASTER than then KS out of the box.
Was considering returning/replacing, because I though maybe I just got a fucked up one or something, but IDK now.
Where did you buy them that they let you return it 5 times?
@@ashihtakaYou could get away with that at any major retailer like a Best Buy. As long as you don’t use an account they won’t usually ever notice.
did you do a full bios reset first? I had a faulty 13900k and replaced it with a 14900k and needed to do a bios reset and reinstall windows or it would completely fail and crash the system.
I had gotten the 14900k on a great sale at Micro Center, but it was abysmally poor binned. Couldn't get either a G.Skill TZ5 48gb 8000MT or even a Dominator Titanium 7200 kit to run stable in XMP. Frustrated the hell outta me. The KS was released when I had 1 day left on my return window so I decided to return it and grab a KS. With the discount for using their Insider card, I paid around $100 extra. Unfortunately this chip isn't the best bining either. Only a SP99. But the scores are all better than the K I returned. Especially the IMC, 82 vs a pitiful 70. Still trying to get everything stable to handle the workload of gaming and streaming simultaneously. And the occasional art project or video editing.
Still, its been a frustrating build. My last build utilized the 11900k on the Z590 Apex mobo, and it took me a couple days to learn all the new settings and figured out how to get it running stable and relatively cool. Now there's even more to learn with 14th gen lol! Seems these chips are rather finicky with tuning.
If it can hit the advertised speeds, it ships. That's all the guarantee there is.
13900k + Apex Encore + G.Skill Trident Z5 8000 = 8000xmp1 on my first try. I don't know 13900k is better or if I just got lucky
Works ok ?? For gaming not crashing I mean !!!
I play WoW & GW2 & Hogwarts Legacy with no crashes@@mits00009
HOW INTEL STOLE $285 from me? I bought an open box Core i9 from the largest vendor in the US and maybe the world. The CPU did not work so I sent it to Intel for warranty repair or replace because the model itself was less than a year old so it must be under warranty. Open box and demo units are treated like new by manufacturers regarding warranty. Intel told me that the CPU was not genuine and refused to return it. The vendor said they will refund me if I send the CPU back. Intel refused. So Intel, the crook, & the vendor profited and the victim paid the price.
Later I found out that CPU lids can be swapped as long as they are the same socket. So if you have a dead Celeron lid swapped with a new i9 lid, then return the dead Celeron for an i9 refund and keep the i9 CPU. That is a serious design flaw that Intel should pay for not the victims. Intel have not changed the flawed design on their latest models.
But jufus the 7800x3d gets 2 more fps while consuming less watts
2 FPS with some AMDip added on top. lol
Jufes don’t like AMD dude.
@@NBWDOUGHBOY ONLY HIS 7800X3D DIPED HAVE YET TO SEE ANOTHER REVIEWER TO CONFIRM THIS
@@ManOfF1re Those Reviewers dont actually play games. Thats the problem. Anybody can hit the run button on a Benchmark. That doesn't tell the whole story.
@@NBWDOUGHBOYThat is very true. Synthetic benchmarks are trash.
I love Intel. But I'm not a biased trash-talker. I also love AMD. I have had both throughout my many decades, gaming. In gaming, AMD does usually win over Intel for FPS. But it depends on the game and the generation of processors in question. Since Intel's 6th gen (DDR4 platform) and AMD's AM4 platform, AMD has had a lead in gaming, on a lot of titles.
I got 8000 stable on my 14900KF in Karhu and TM5 but then failed y-cruncher VT3 within a minute. Now I just try y-cruncher first, then TM5 and finally Karhu. I am on 3rd 14900K/KF and 8000 is still not 100% stable, all these CPUs I bought in my country seem to be very low bin SP96~SP97. Apex Encore mobo. 8000 is not really as "easy" as it sounds and like we saw on this video not all CPUs can do 8000 XMP. That being said in my experience the RAM sticks can also do a major difference. 14900KS incoming and my hopes are not high.
Glad I stayed long enough for Layla going for a stroll. Hi Layla!!
Took mine back, shocking how its the same chip as my 14900k
I daily my delidded 13900k at 5.9 all core at 1.36v, so better than a 14900KS out the box. It also does 8000 cl34, 27 hours karhu stable. I know I’ve got some good silicon but still, it’s three generations old. Pointless release from Intel
@@jsteff9290karhu, tm5 absolut+1usmus, occt memory+large data set. Been using it for months on my msi z790i no issues. It’s solid
3 generations old ???
1.36v on karhu or full load (r23, occt, prime 95)?
@@ItsRyflex lets be honest r23 is ass... i can pass it at 5.1 cache and 5.0 but will crash instantly on battlefield 2042... i can get 5.0 stable but with a lot of vcore.
is your ram heatsink copper?
As always, thanks for the solid, in depth reviews!
@Frame Chasers where i can download the RAM Test Software, you are using?
FFS i just got my 14900K a week ago i delidded slapped on LM and a new Copper IHS i waited to see if this would actually become real. And of course every other tech tuber this is the last of its kind is what eating away at me as i always have to max out a sockets potential or ram. Like my Synology Nas it has 64GB of ram just because. Now this maybe ill order that direct die from EK.
But then again my 14900K regularly guzzles back 1.54v
Looking to upgrade this year. I'm still using X79.
What I would like to know do you have the latest bios installed and are you using Ram that is specified by the manufacturer's website for the actual motherboard
If you match the barcode of the ram to the barcode on the manufacturer's website of the motherboard
The XMP profiles are supposed to work out of the box for 8000 memory
and that's the bottom line cuz the manufacturer says so
or Just buy the non ks or the last gen ks or the last gen non ks if you gonna clock to 5.7ghz
I may skip this CPU as I got the last one and I had fun.
I'm pleased I bought the 13900kf and overclocked it to 5.7p 4.5e 8000 ddr5 I can definitely up the p core's more but I don't like cooking my cpu😂
I seriously don't understand why don't intel give 10 p core in 13 or 14 i9 ks instead, it would be better to buy than this we want faster core
They somehow manage to make it more niche with every KS. I just wished they could offer it delided in a basic tray variant. But I guess intel sees this as a product for whales and the stock sales so... why bother.
When comparing to AMD with the better binned intel chip will you be doing the same for the AMD to keep things on an even playing field?
Hi, which CPU is better for overclocking? My i7 13700K (SP89) manages 6.1 GHz, the cpu is capped with liquid metal on it and has a full copper IHS on it from Rockitcool. Question: Which CPU is best for overclocking? i7-13700K, i9-13900K, i9-13900KS, i7-14700K, i9-14900K, or i9-14900KS My cooler has a maximum TDP of 300 watts. Thank you I am a fan of yours. :)
Do I need this CPU if I play in 4K 240hz with a RTX 4090 GPU? Currently using i9 10900K.
I think I will stay with my 13900KS 5.8P All core and 46E
great vid bro, just curious: how can i access your timings for AM5, the 6400 cl30 one you plugged? cheers
The biggest issue is that bios updates aren't here yet that utilize the cpu correctly
by the time ASUS releases are proper bios, the 15900K will be released. Fuck all that 🙄
+200usd for KS, they should go for +400usd and introduce binned imc KS
I have question, what should i get I5 14600kf with Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 MOTHERBOARD or R7 5800x3d with ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WiFi II AMD AM4, both of them with ddr4 ram 3200mhz i play RUST
This is a 13901.5K. This shit is literally a scam. Bad intel.
Thanks for the video is Z790 AORUS MASTER X can do 8000 xmp or 7800 xmp?
great review Jufes
You're doing great work!
They should just sell delidded CPU without a warranty or something
I think they do somewhere but I don’t know where
Ouf, that IMC result were truly dissappointing.
For one who play game but not the bios screen!!😂😂😂 damn….it hurts
If you already have a 13900K there's no need to upgrade to 14900 KS... Also if you play in 4K the performance is the same as the 13900K because it's GPU bound. 14900 KS is for new builders.... Not to upgrade from a 13900K
Best way to review the 14900ks killed it on this one very good to know
Good stuff! Easily the best review.
When did kratos start binning cpus
do some fafel and put some falafel instead of thermal paste, im sure temp will become low.
And i'am happy with a 175us 13600T :)
Did I just see you plugging RAM into a motherboard that has power feeding it?
What if my trash 13900k can't even get to 7200mhz, I guess would be worth it?
You may have over tightened your cooler, the memory controller is super finicky to too much pressure. When I was overtorqued I couldn't even dream of posting 7200 XMP with my 14900K, could barely do 6000.
Yeah that’s not possible, you have a failure somewhere
Maybe, but I already tried several combinations of voltages, even tried the new AI training from the latest msi bios, I have an ace max, but I'm pretty sure is the cpu, can't even handle 5.6ghz without crashing
Ace max is why
So the oc for intel is very limited, we already knew but not for not so crazy speeds too, that's bad
We either gonna be at 7ghz soon, or they really will need to rehaul cpu architecture to advance
For sure. Look for Intel releasing a 7GHz CPU about 9 months to a year after AMD releases Zen 5.
Not going to happen, monolithic dies are uh well they are dead. We are almost certainly at the end of the frequency supremacy era based on what we know about the upcoming platforms. Intel is going the chiplet route for 15th gen so the only monolithic cpu's are probably the "G" sku's from AMD. The current 9.125 MHz on liquid helium will probably hold strong unless they decide to give it another go but even then we are talking 9.250 GHz or so max. The 5 digit 10000 MHz is a pipe dream
@@Gti_Jason 5Ghz was a pipe dream not too long ago. Give it some time to age lol.
But it has the KS in the name, it must be better
Then the 15700K comes out. LoL!
My rule is that there will always be something better. Stop chasing the dragon and settle down with something powerful, yet it won't cost a ton.
What about max performance?
Are you guys chasing frames or not!?
Why you spend $250 more
The answer is to have the best cutting Edge piece of silicone thats out
For a gaming UA-cam channel
Even if it doesn't do anything it is still top tier and creates curiosity for viewers hopefully that answers your question
12700k clearance price, cheap A-die and you are on
What is AIO ?
at least there's a community willing to get the goods, digital png however...
I think I'd rather just turn off hyper-threading.
Guess who bought an 14900K last month... Oh well!
Edit: Looks like the 14900KS is just an idiot tax! Thanks for saving me money!
Looking lean Jufes!!
Can it *compete* ?
Me sitting with my 12400f running DDR5 at 4800. 😢
I wish Intel would trade me in my 13900KS since I didn't see the 14th coming or i would have waited!
Will we get Santa beard Jufes in 8mo
I wonder why call of duty crashes when I overclock my 4090
can this cpu heat living room?
Not locked to 5.7Ghz, stock it maybe do an living room apartment yes.
I think those can do 8200/8400
Is urs working tekken 8 or hogwarts legacy?
If I had a mustache like him.
Mean while i have my broadway cpu running at 730mhz 😎
Good to know!
What’s even the point of 8000mhz
It's a nice even number.
You called this in advance. Well played.
Only reviewer I trust..
You are pretty stupid then lol
After seeing his “review” of the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, I would say you should go elsewhere. Gamer’s Nexus is notorious for being highly reliable for everything they do and have meticulously set up controlled environments to test hardware on different system configurations in different games. I would highly recommend Gamer’s Nexus.
Why do the thumbnails for these videos look like he's angry at his own farts?
I’ve had read bad gas the last few days actually, trying a new protein powder
Bro how do I but ur stuff
FrameChasers.org/shop
Naah thanks big dawg, il go broke on my powerbill.
Maybe its time to upgrade from a 8600k to compete. Everybody likes overpriced hot chicken nuggets 😂
My 14900k +8200mhz g skill.
Glad i didnt go with this ks chip. Ty
Sure……..great……..I need a freezer to install it in also. Pffft to Intel.
Abrham does tech
my sp quality is less on my ks than my regular k, i paid more money for worse .
Intel keep destroying Amd. Amdipped are mad, they wish to have CPU which can be clocked to 6GHz but their Zen turd can't even have stable 5.5GHz LOL
Ghz isn't everything you turd 😂 amd have 3D cache