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  • @johnlong6197
    @johnlong6197 Місяць тому +14

    Damn intel fanboys cope soo hard-“your chip is on fire and crashes”.......”all is good bro 0.1% lows bro”😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @RadeonRX
      @RadeonRX Місяць тому +2

      They'll never admit it

    • @ukgunit001
      @ukgunit001 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ccharle03
      @ccharle03 Місяць тому

      Actual facts

    • @t7274
      @t7274 24 дні тому

      Bros pretending to be a pc hardware company on UA-cam 💀

  • @jones77wrx
    @jones77wrx Місяць тому +5

    My i9 13900k dropped 20c in Cinebench(stock) with a Aric Freezer III 420mm AIO and a KtyoSheet. The upgrade was because the rig was too loud on the desktop with an EK 360mm AIO. It never crashed and temps in games were fine.
    My other i9 13900k rig did do the game crashing thing but I was using a Silverstone 360mm AIO. I replaced the Silverstone with a EK 360mm and no more crashing. This build is under a desk so it will not get the 420mm upgrade.
    The down side to the 420mm is that it did not fit in any of my mid tower cases so I bought an Lian Li 011 EVO XL. The XL is fantastic but pricy.

  • @chrissoucy1997
    @chrissoucy1997 Місяць тому +33

    Roman from Der8auer tried his own Mycro Direct Die block on the 14900KS with liquid metal and it was performing really well

    • @alexanderrybicki6270
      @alexanderrybicki6270 Місяць тому +1

      But did it throttle?

    • @diony5674
      @diony5674 Місяць тому +4

      @@alexanderrybicki6270 no but whats to note is that one core did hit mid 90s. i assume though that was a bad mount

    • @xdi1733
      @xdi1733 Місяць тому +7

      Derbauers direct die performance was incredible. He had it fully unleashed at 6GHz and it was like 60c full load. I've never seen performance like that. Was at 1.525v. and only costs 140 for the RGB version.

    • @Davinmk
      @Davinmk Місяць тому +7

      the fact you need to direct die to get adequate cooling is insane

    • @xdi1733
      @xdi1733 Місяць тому

      @@nichronos yea I believe it's the equivalent of three 360mm rads which is what I'm running triple rads.

  • @NBWDOUGHBOY
    @NBWDOUGHBOY Місяць тому +27

    I love the way you interact with your cat. I had a cat too he was a Good boy as well.

  • @timh694
    @timh694 Місяць тому +5

    buy a 14900ks and then turn it into the cheaper 14900k so you can use it. Great product!

    • @NBWDOUGHBOY
      @NBWDOUGHBOY 9 днів тому

      Buys AMD. CPU Dips and Stutters like Shlt. Great Product 🤔

  • @connor040606
    @connor040606 Місяць тому +7

    Funny, I just picked up a Mystique 360 and a 14900KS paired with the Z790 APEX and some DDR5 8000 ram. Took a little while, and some tuning, but I set an all core 5.9ghz, and a power cap on the short and long term duration to 275w. Games have been running great, even the ones that hit the shader comp hard. Before the cap, I was not crashing but I saw 340W of package power at 101c. INSANE. As far as the upload issue, I believe this issue is currently being worked on, keep an eye out for an update on the software!

    • @Greez1337
      @Greez1337 Місяць тому +1

      Imagine if MOBO's weren't so aggressive, or if Intel had some more enforcement on bioses that shipped. They would save themselves so much face... But much like Radeon, Intel doesn't seem to care about scoring easy wins.

    • @papasmurf5598
      @papasmurf5598 Місяць тому

      I actually have the same exact set up. Had a 13900K in the Z790 Apex with G Skill 8,000 ram with a Kraken Elite 360 cooler in push pull. The 14900KS was running fine how I had it set up for about 3 days then everything went to shit. Direct X crashes, blue screens, then the system wouldn't even let me boot into windows, even after I cleared the CMOS many times. I even downclocked my Ram at one point thinking it was the culprit. Then I tried to reset the system to an earlier set point, and it would still crash. In the end I think I must have corrupted some files trying to get it to boot and it would just hard crash and go Straite to bios and crash trying to get to windows. I eventually had to buy a new hard drive and download windows from the cloud and put my 13900K back in. I tried so many variations of bios settings, even downclocking the CPU to 5.6 5.7, but I had already screwed something up and it wouldn't run it. I might play with it again, but only if I water block it and go that route. No point even having it if you can't run it around 6.0ghz. How it ran for 3 days before it started crashing is a mystery to me also. I was actually running it on AI Overclock settings with all limits removed and some other settings raised higher to keep it from tripping. But it failed with Direct X crashes first, then blue screens and no boot to windows at all so I had to give up. I would love to get it running eventually because I spent the money on it. I really need to go ahead and start water cooling my stuff but just haven't gotten into that yet. Glad you got it working though, because not too many people have got it stable enough to run it.

    • @connor040606
      @connor040606 Місяць тому +1

      That is wild! AI OC has a tendencay to blast voltages to an unsafe level. Did you happen to see what your VCORE max was during that time? I have seen some overclocks, especially memory cause windows corruption to the point of needing a reinstall, but thats pretty rare.

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Місяць тому

      ​@@-Highlander-42lol since when he got free stuff?

  • @calebleuciuc670
    @calebleuciuc670 Місяць тому +2

    had an issue with my i9 14900k with a asus board. It would boost that thing to the MAX. constant thoteling and would heat up my room so fast. Ended up undervolting it and dropping the clock speeds a bit. No more heating. maintains a temp around 80-90 c full load and only minimal performance drop

  • @mattyj309
    @mattyj309 Місяць тому +1

    @framechasers, did you test the AIO's 100% out-of-the-box default settings, or did you configure a fan and pump curve?

  • @david55200
    @david55200 2 дні тому

    To gain 10°C, you need to buy a water cooling system with 3 fans and a 240 radiator. You buy 3 additional fans and you will attach them above the radiator. These fans should bring fresh air directly onto the radiator from above. The other fans need to be reversed and set to exhaust the heat inside the machine. This will significantly increase the airflow, making the cooling more effective. The hot air sent inside the machine should be extracted by the front fans of the case towards the outside. With this method, I gained 10°C with a 120 water cooling system with 2 fans originally on my 9900X which went up to 97°C overclocked to 4700. It dropped to 87°C under heavy use and to 70°C in-game. Try this :)

  • @Doshi-lp4tn
    @Doshi-lp4tn Місяць тому +2

    Cache and v core are not equal. Tune the all core sync/ optimism slider and manually entered cooler score until under voltage protection engages w cache down bin. Then set max cache to this value without the undervolt protection. Then undervolt the higher core ratios till you reach best core ratio . Using v/ f set points 7-12

  • @skorpers
    @skorpers Місяць тому

    How would you say the Freezer III compares to the II in terms of intermittent load spikes like the Overwatch menu and so on?

  • @vlmxs
    @vlmxs Місяць тому +9

    In Europe Arctic Freezer 360 is on sale on their website for EUR 76,15 (non RGB) and the Thermalright is EUR 73. So I would probably just choose arctic :/

  • @radugrigoras
    @radugrigoras Місяць тому +4

    That frozen notte at 60$ is a killer deal, that leaves you lotsa money to replace the fans with some nice noctuas and still be under the price of the Arctic. Plus maybe get some PTM7950 on there instead of paste.

  • @Baneblade40
    @Baneblade40 Місяць тому +3

    Using the contact frame with an AIO on 13900K at 5.5GHZ "auto", my temps never go over 80C. So the stock ILM is garbage.

  • @Rigem.
    @Rigem. Місяць тому +5

    My man, the more I've been watching alot of these UA-camrs the more I see most of them are just frontin! They can't even keep it straight up from one episode to another. They must have some of these kids running out to buy what they're saying on one episode is the latest in greatest and then a few episodes later talkin shit about the same product they just pushed a like 5/6 episodes back. I never seen anything like it No pride whatsoever in what they're doin to consumer! It's so obvious a blind person can see this shit that they're sayin just whatever for that dollar coming in at the moment💩
    Thanks alot for what you do and bein who you are. I'm glad I found your channel Where I know you say what you mean and stick by it!

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 Місяць тому +1

    I have the frozen notte, and it works perfectly fine, I do have a frame on mine from DerBauer, but it is not delidded. I see some spikes into the 85 range, not overclocked at the moment, just seeing if this motherboard can handle the new addition.

  • @Gamer-sq8vc
    @Gamer-sq8vc Місяць тому +1

    SuperCool Direct Die with a Hardware Labs GTR 360 rad (HwL GTR series is the highest performance rad in the industry) with at least 3x Phanteks T30 fans, if not 6x (push/pull). With that setup, I've seen 14900K, not even KS, run Cinebench stable at 6.1 (or 6.2, can't remember) GHz all-core, e-cores OC'd high too, and with p-cores only in the 80-85 degree mark.

  • @reloadingdontshoot1
    @reloadingdontshoot1 Місяць тому +1

    I had a Thermalright Frozen Edge 360; cost $65 CAD. After having their Phantom Spirit 120 and seeing it destroy or be equal to a lot of 360 AIO's, I had to try it. Was very satisfied for a sub-$70 360mm AIO
    I have a P3 case so swapped it for a Liquid Freezer II 420, but overall highly recommend anything Thermalright

  • @FIVESTRZ
    @FIVESTRZ Місяць тому

    11:38 that snap back to business voice haha

  • @danbiohack5353
    @danbiohack5353 Місяць тому

    This is the video I need, this things run sooo hot. Can't even launch dragons dogma and recompile shaders without hitting 100c. Have lowered my max to 90c by lowering my wattage to 200 though. Can't seem to control volts with my msi b760 tomahawk. Just has a offset for pcm or cpu + or - on each. Thinking I need to change it for a z790 and upgrade from my h100i capelix elite cooler, please let me know what you think. I'm used to my old 6900k with x99deluxe mobo, never got anywhere near these temps

  • @khoavu1341
    @khoavu1341 Місяць тому +1

    13th and 14th i9 users are having stability issues on stock settings. The issue seems to be caused by the silicon degrading over time. I guess pushing 250w plus on these chips will do that.

  • @naughtysyntax
    @naughtysyntax Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for content!

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 Місяць тому

    Have you tried the direct die EK Aio im debating in refunding mine as recent news has me worried it'll not make it through lol but its first durect die id be willing to try the 14900K even delidded liquid metaled and copper topped still has 20c+ difference between some P Cores.

  • @theafricanwarlord3343
    @theafricanwarlord3343 Місяць тому +1

    Great Review Jufes, really made my day keep up the great work.

  • @groanhammer282
    @groanhammer282 Місяць тому

    Thank you for these videos. I gotta say that once I bought my new PC last year after watching gazillion reviews, all my interest to hardware stuff faded, which is natural. But your videos are just fantastic and your measurement methods are very well thought out and put together. Maybe, if you want, you can increase your production value to attract new viewers and/or customers - but this is definitely top notch.

  • @DannyDDeMaio
    @DannyDDeMaio Місяць тому

    What about the Corsair ICUE LINK H150i LCD? Could it performance well?

  • @fernandom5070
    @fernandom5070 Місяць тому +2

    If I understood correctly, the thermal limits that Intel CPUs apply to 14900 are not working properly ... If they were , they will stop it from crashing ... Right ?
    Intel has gone nuts with voltage last couple of generations .

  • @weroliera
    @weroliera Місяць тому +4

    BRo that beard looks incredible gg

  • @Pwnag3Inc
    @Pwnag3Inc Місяць тому +3

    buy a 14900ks and down clock to a 14900k = win.
    Gotcha.

  • @Skungalunga
    @Skungalunga Місяць тому +4

    Well fuck. You just explained what's going on with my Arctic Freezer II 280 and 13600K.

    • @techbuildspcs
      @techbuildspcs 12 днів тому

      yeah even with a delid this thing sucks dude, 13700k and 280 as well. I had to turn off HT as games dont like it anyways.

    • @100500daniel
      @100500daniel 10 днів тому

      Man my Arctic LFII 280 works wonder on my 7800x3d sucks to know it's bad on Intel

  • @SinisterDev85
    @SinisterDev85 Місяць тому

    I just recently got the 14900ks. It is definitely a spicy cpu,but not totally unmanageable! In my tuning thus far I've found that I can keep the temps under control, even with Asus MCE enabled, so long as I set power limits in accordance with Intel's Extreme Power Profile. So, amps limited to 400 and watts limited to 320. Im using Corsair's H170i LCD Link in a push/pull config with QX fans. I experience thermal throttling after hitting 350+ watts. But seem to be ok within the 320 watt limit.

  • @livefastshredfaster6987
    @livefastshredfaster6987 Місяць тому

    I burnt a KS already and on a LARGE rad, it no longer boots and crashes on stock bios

  • @MrSTROM26
    @MrSTROM26 Місяць тому +1

    can you please test lian li trinity perfomance ?

  • @oboozeee3014
    @oboozeee3014 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve cooled my 13900ks with 280/360 LiquidFreezer II. No problems. Edit i used to play WZ too at the time without issues.

  • @robertlewis8608
    @robertlewis8608 Місяць тому +2

    Wish you threw the EK Nucleus Lux/Dark/White 360 into the mix.

    • @TheMagicCatQ
      @TheMagicCatQ Місяць тому +1

      I was gonna write the same stuff :)

  • @maveric19871
    @maveric19871 Місяць тому +1

    It reminds me RX Vega 56 & 64. Both were overclocked out of the box with too high voltage because they had to compete against 1080.

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 Місяць тому

      ahhh, old Vega. Those needed to be undervolted out of the box, and I feel sorry for anyone that got one of those that had a low quality chip.

    • @McCarthy880
      @McCarthy880 Місяць тому

      ​​​​​@@m8x425On the other hand, the Vega 56 was a steal for overclockers. With an HBM2 overclocking headroom of around 30% (via the V64 BIOS) and undervolting the core voltage to 1.07v, it would easily give a 20% performance boost, matching the 1080 at the cost of the 1070.

  • @tetoqx
    @tetoqx Місяць тому

    I like this Video Format. AIO testing to chill the KS

  • @BurkeSchneider
    @BurkeSchneider Місяць тому +1

    Would a 420mm AIO perform any better?

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Місяць тому +1

      yeah they do give better temps but most mid towers can't fit them. For reference on how much better pretty sure GN has a vid on the freezer ii 360mm and compares it to the 420mm rad. just snagged a liquid freezer iii 420 (non rgb) for 90-100 usd. last gen worked great, i had no problem cooling an all core oc 12/13th/14th gen in my experience. their customer service is great too

  • @Qalibra
    @Qalibra Місяць тому

    but is it okey to have the voltage at 1.47V under these loads? I have a 14 900K too and sadly its crashing in unreal enginge games like fortnite tremendously but yeah the voltage questions interests me a lot, thanks for your video and would appreciate an answer for sure if you find the time!

  • @user-vsmsdos
    @user-vsmsdos Місяць тому +2

    I've found r15 to be the tru cpu stability stress test; dunno why r23 workload seems so much more manageable and coolable compared to r23, but loads in 15 will cause a crash where 23 would run fine.

    • @toonnut1
      @toonnut1 Місяць тому +2

      Yes I've done plenty of testing and r15 is definitely the hardest on the cpu in fact I mentioned it in one of my videos 👍

    • @TheMagicCatQ
      @TheMagicCatQ Місяць тому

      he knows his shit

  • @nksnikos1605
    @nksnikos1605 Місяць тому

    The best 360 aio ?

  • @chrispittmanComputing
    @chrispittmanComputing Місяць тому

    I have a Frozen Prism 360 by Thermal right and it works great. Thermalright makes some of the best price to performance coolers. The Thermal Assissan X120 is the best budget air cooler for 125 watt or less CPUs.

  • @tommypearson9260
    @tommypearson9260 Місяць тому +12

    With all due respect a 420m-AIO is the only solution for these chips regardless of brand.
    Anything else is a waste of time.

    • @KiSs0fd3aTh
      @KiSs0fd3aTh Місяць тому +1

      No, not really. A 420mm AIO will give you 2% more performance running Cinebench loops over just a single tower aircooler. Unless you are running benchmarks, overkill cooling is useless, since CPUs don't gain much performance no matter how much you keep cranking up voltages and power draw. I've been scoring 41500 in CBR23 on a 13900k and a single tower air cooler @ 85c no problem.

    • @tommypearson9260
      @tommypearson9260 Місяць тому +1

      @@KiSs0fd3aTh Bro I'm talking locked cores not Boosting.
      Boosting cores will have a curve to follow locked cores don't.
      I'm running 5.8Ghz all core 4.7ghz E-cores with a 420m corsair H170i and contact frame max wattage 370w scoring well over 42k
      No thermal throttle 87c at best with 7600mhz ram 14900k my 13900k does much better at that speed crazy how that happens

    • @fwixgamer4796
      @fwixgamer4796 Місяць тому

      @@tommypearson9260 single rad 360 with good fans push pull can cool up to 1.2k of heat in a 22° room temperature , the problem is the IHS contact not the watercooler , bigger rad can help in a hot room like 35° if you don't have AC on in a hot country like Morocco , but in the case of modern cpus just put a direct waterblock with liquid metal and litlle bit of sanding for the die and you can get 70 ° with 140m rad push pull vs a 420mm rad :d

    • @eliadbu
      @eliadbu Місяць тому +2

      not going to change much, if you want to cool this CPU, only direct die is the solution, 360 rad will do just fine and you can even use AIO like the EK nucleolus direct die. the problem is - IHS even lapped one are just another barrier for the heat to pass, the heat density is just too high to cool it with IHS on.

    • @tommypearson9260
      @tommypearson9260 Місяць тому

      @@fwixgamer4796 Reason why i even said this is because i am using a H170i with contact frame and thermal grizzly 250c paste i didn't lap or direct die my cpu i stay below 90c full load @5.8ghzPcores 4.7Ghz E-cores If i do direct die i will for sure be going over 400w with higher overclocks i am good

  • @johnmatsagos9415
    @johnmatsagos9415 29 днів тому

    deepcool silently released the ld360 aio that is a budget version of the mystique with the same pump.

  • @olympusbarsfitness7394
    @olympusbarsfitness7394 Місяць тому +1

    Can you test the lian li performance aio please 🙏🏻 ❤

  • @tech-utuber2219
    @tech-utuber2219 Місяць тому

    Are all of the radiators aluminum?

  • @zeroch1ll150
    @zeroch1ll150 Місяць тому

    Those are caseless test though, you need to put them in a case to get true consumer numbers

  • @Pandemonium088
    @Pandemonium088 Місяць тому

    Using the EKWB AIO 360 Basic + thermalright ILM, I get 83c max with r23 ( 30mins run) and this is with an ambient temp of 27-28c

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 Місяць тому

      Set your power to unlimited and then you are doing "real number testing". Not a real test if you limit it.

    • @Pandemonium088
      @Pandemonium088 Місяць тому

      @@Multimeter1 I dont need the extra 200Mhz more, so no thank you. Asus already enables MCE by default.

  • @retrosimon9843
    @retrosimon9843 Місяць тому

    The Fans on the Freezer 3 are holding it back

  • @papasmurf5598
    @papasmurf5598 21 день тому

    Update to the crashing 13th and 14th gen CPUs. I got both my 13900K and 14900KS chips running great on 360mm AIOs. Following Intel's advice and using some of their settings and some of my own, I'm running my 14900KS just fine except for another problem that nobody's talking about. I'm talking COD games and Blizzard. I set my CPU up to where its running at 5.9 to 6.0 on 8 P-Cores and 38 on the E-Cores because really don't need them for gaming, but still want them to run background things so didn't disable them. what I found is that Blizzard software will analyze your system settings when you try to boot up into a COD game and if it thinks your set up is not going to run the game you will get Direct Issue crashes over and over. Even though temps are perfect it might crash your game. What I did was rebooted into bios. Reset everything to stock and then went back and loaded up COD and it let me in the game because it accepted my stock settings. The Blizzard Software will remember that you successfully got into the game so that's when you go back into the bios and crank everything back up to where you want them. I'm talking about on the cutting edge. and then go back and boot into COD. It doesn't notice the change and will let you boot up your games. but it you crash due to high temps or an unstable overclock you will have to go back into bios and reset everything again to get back into the game. Just do it once and then you can start overclocking it again. I did it many times to figure it out and it works. I'm boosting to 6.2 gigs on several cores with a Kraken 360 mm radiator and temperatures are not exceeding 85C and that's only for a second or two then it comes back down. Note, I cannot run Cinebench and get all the way through but can run all COD games with no problem. Just don't push it too high and don't run all core. Run your cores by usage only. 6.1 6.0 6.0 5.9 etc. I have all the bios settings I use if anybody wants them that has a 14900KS or regular 14900K.

  • @powkung45
    @powkung45 Місяць тому

    AMDip, Intelcrash?

  • @jphighbaugh3357
    @jphighbaugh3357 Місяць тому +2

    im looking to build a new PC soon but i dont want to build a heater for the bedroom either, maybe i should go one step down from 14900k? worst case scenerio i could delid i guess

    • @alexanderrybicki6270
      @alexanderrybicki6270 Місяць тому +1

      I have a 12900KS at work that's not fiery like my 13900K at home.

    • @chaniibak7702
      @chaniibak7702 Місяць тому +3

      Could always undervolt/underclock

    • @radugrigoras
      @radugrigoras Місяць тому +3

      Deliding won’t really change the heat output into your room. Just how efficiently it gets there

    • @jphighbaugh3357
      @jphighbaugh3357 Місяць тому

      @@radugrigoras hmm excellent point, there's no good info on youtube now, back in 2019 was the last time i built a PC, now that i plan on building another one soon, im having real trouble finding good info on the new parts that are on the market

    • @jphighbaugh3357
      @jphighbaugh3357 Місяць тому

      @@chaniibak7702 I like that idea as well

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 Місяць тому

    You explained what the issue is way better than most articles I read about it. Am still on 12900KF but these issues kinda have me thinking of waiting to upgrade.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 Місяць тому +2

    I like how he let them run for 33 mins. That’s a great 👍 number. See yall at the lodge

    • @HankBaxter
      @HankBaxter Місяць тому +1

      🤣

    • @Kapono5150
      @Kapono5150 Місяць тому +1

      @@HankBaxter At least your aware and intelligent enough to understand what 33 and Lodge are referring to, most dont get it

  • @crono7990
    @crono7990 Місяць тому +1

    I installed my new 14900KS and Asus z790 Dark Hero few days ago. CPU has SP rating 109, P - SP 124 points and E - SP 81 points, MC - SP is 84 points.
    7600MT/s seems doable on this Dark Hero motherboard (over 1 hour Karhu stable after one day tweaking). My goal is 8 hour Karhu stable.
    Maybe 7600MT/s isn't common for this motherboard?
    I've tweaked some primary, secondary and tertiary timings.
    I'm just torturing my AIO cooler some days before delidding CPU 😄

    • @Karm1kal
      @Karm1kal Місяць тому

      I'm planning on upgrading to i9-14900KS and Asus Z790 Dark Hero along with 96Gb 8000Mhz DDR5 (G.Skill Trident Z5). How does it work with high frequency DDR5 ? Is it stable ? I cannot find other people with such setup to ask.

    • @crono7990
      @crono7990 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@Karm1kalHey, I am able to get my 2x24gb ram stable @7600mt/s. I had to put one fan blowing to ram sticks inside the case and another fan outside the case pointed ram/cpu back side. I could do a short video about my setup, I add link here if I do that video. If you use 4 dimm slots, my guess is there's no way to achieve high speed. 2x48 maybe, I don't know.. it becomes more challenging more ram you have I think. Of course your motherboard/cpu/ram have to support good ram speed too, all parts are individual with different speeds. 8000mt/s speed is meant mostly to 2 dimm slot motherboard. I tried 7800mt/s but got error in few seconds, so I gave up that speed right away. I had to adjust a lot of voltages to get that 7600mt/s stable, so it's not easy just plug and play

    • @Karm1kal
      @Karm1kal Місяць тому

      @@crono7990 I see - thank you for the reply! :)

  • @ceespolhout2439
    @ceespolhout2439 Місяць тому

    With the big GPU’s and thus bigger cases and also the enormous amount of cooling modern day CPU’s need I would really like to see 420mm aio’s compared. I feel like we’re at a point where 420mm should really be the go to for high end cpu’s

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 Місяць тому

    I am so happy to see @11:48 the real host appears. Here is Kitty.

  • @kyle734533
    @kyle734533 Місяць тому

    I been running a i9 12900k with some crashing issues

  • @maxim4104
    @maxim4104 Місяць тому +2

    Just tell me which bundle we need to buy 😂😂😂

  • @Dom_Mason
    @Dom_Mason Місяць тому

    The Frozen Notte for $60 is my choice. Cheap and does the job. Might change out one of my systems from air cool to it. Thanks!

  • @roki977
    @roki977 Місяць тому

    Someone needs to invent dice cooler with auto loader and auto mixer with little pump for aceton to cool this thing :) If dice would be enough, LN2 is not practical for every day usage :)

  • @NathanOakley1980
    @NathanOakley1980 Місяць тому +4

    Based on past videos, these chips “don’t scale past 5.1, 5.2ghz” so why run 6.0
    I have upgraded from a 12th gen i9 to a 14th gen and turned it right down, disabled 1/2 the e cores. Now it uses no more than 150w and 80/90w in games.
    I tried, and you were right, very little difference as you turn the chip down….or up as you were doing in previous videos.

    • @numberz010
      @numberz010 Місяць тому +2

      pretty much agree the only real difference I see between 12 and 14 is efficiency, you can get 140-150w on 149 for 5.2ghz while 185ish w on my 12900K

  • @deltacrna3849
    @deltacrna3849 Місяць тому

    Great info...

  • @B3TR0Z
    @B3TR0Z Місяць тому +1

    No RGB fans is a positive if you ask me.

  • @xSKOOBSx
    @xSKOOBSx Місяць тому

    Doesn't come with ARGB fans? Isn't that a benefit?

  • @Infernalfury
    @Infernalfury Місяць тому

    Try ek nucleus 360mm

  • @LarryPutski
    @LarryPutski Місяць тому +1

    So I guess the AMD dip is not so bad after all

  • @anamerican1054
    @anamerican1054 Місяць тому +1

    Shouldn't you show how to cool the bad boy? How about your custom water cooling setup? Does it cool it enough?

  • @RafaelSilva-yv3oh
    @RafaelSilva-yv3oh Місяць тому +1

    Kitty at the end is always based!!

  • @boldfugur4099
    @boldfugur4099 Місяць тому

    had a 14900ks couldnt even stay in the bios how unstable it was from 600 series board to 7. refunded that pos immediately 13600kf is just as good for 90% what people wanna do, wont bottle neck current GPUs the 5k series not counted as specs not available i dont think

  • @ColinDyckes
    @ColinDyckes Місяць тому +2

    The only AIO that has a chance is the EK Nucleus CR360 direct die, and that is unlikely to stand a long term test at full load. Even a custom loop will struggle, but my recently bought MoRa 420 with 4 x 200mm fans *will* cool it as water temperature is only 3C above ambient 🙂 Limit is then the DD waterblock.

  • @FIVESTRZ
    @FIVESTRZ Місяць тому

    I'm not a fan of the Artic LF III, loved the LF II though... I kinda wish I didn't sell my DeepCool LT 720 for it, that thing minus the extra RGB cable, claims 300W TDP and kept it about 2-5C more cool than this. I think it's for the contact frame though rather than the actual cooler

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Місяць тому

      yeah getting a good Mount with it can be annoying (over tightened to where pc won't post is very ez to do too)compared to a the normal aftermarket contact frame but im sure Arctic will improve this tho

    • @FIVESTRZ
      @FIVESTRZ Місяць тому

      @@iDeparture hope they offer a free replacement when they do.

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Місяць тому +1

      @@FIVESTRZ i was literally gunna mention that and forgot. Wouldn't surprise me if they did as they did before last gen with a defect they found and told GN and probably others i just know they made GN aware for a fact to get the word out so people would know, then sent everyone affected the new upgraded model and also with i think Rev 3 of the freezer ii upgraded/compatibility issueswith am4 and 12th gen brackets/back plate they'd send you for free. They're customer service has been great in my experience.

  • @lordace8795
    @lordace8795 Місяць тому

    Woop woop

  • @kwakes212
    @kwakes212 Місяць тому

    I've been using lian li galahad 360 and it's been pretty damn good imo

    • @lalicdalibor1367
      @lalicdalibor1367 Місяць тому

      Lian galahad 2 360 is the best cooler on the market actually for high loads ! and the best of the best is the performance one !

    • @Avenge_Computers
      @Avenge_Computers Місяць тому +2

      Nice bro! you got 2 degrees less for 4 times the price!

    • @kwakes212
      @kwakes212 Місяць тому

      @@Avenge_Computers 4x what price? I spent 130

  • @mmx40000
    @mmx40000 Місяць тому +2

    I just don't see anyway around if you want the advertise speed and proper thermal with no thermal throttling on that cpu the only way seems to be thought direct die colling on a costume loop.

  • @EinSwitzer
    @EinSwitzer Місяць тому

    Not true / thermal compound vs Liquid Metal or soldering / the compound is under your integrated heat spreader when you chip jumps to 95c + it’s due to that

    • @EinSwitzer
      @EinSwitzer Місяць тому

      My original NITR0 logo is in my id pic

  • @griffin1366
    @griffin1366 Місяць тому +3

    I always undervolt / optimize my voltages. 13700k at 5.3Ghz (stock boosts 2 cores to 5.4Ghz for an extra 0.060mv...). Thing sits at 80C on a 240mm Arctic Liquid Freezer at 70% fan speed in Cinebench.

    • @550F21CEMO
      @550F21CEMO Місяць тому +1

      Still too high. My 13700KF (also got a 13900KS/14900KS) sits at max 69C at 282 watts 5.8ghz all core 280mm aio. 1.4v 5.8p core 4.4 e core. 40% fan speed, 2 noctua 140mm 3000rpm fans, corsair H115I. No undervolt or any BS on the contrary a full OC. Your doing something wrong buddy or that weeny 240 aint doing shit or you got a shit chip. Get a bigger 320 or a 280. Or go amd😂

    • @griffin1366
      @griffin1366 Місяць тому +1

      @@550F21CEMO Ambient temp is 24-30C. Knowing my luck, I probably got a bad one. My old 9700k wasn't even stable at 5Ghz...

    • @550F21CEMO
      @550F21CEMO Місяць тому

      @@griffin1366 probably bro just dont worry about it and use it, physical shit are expendable dont worry too much about it enjoy your chip, try and get a 280 or a 360, get the thermalright 360 frozenprism, cheap and pretty good at cooling the 13700kf

    • @griffin1366
      @griffin1366 Місяць тому

      @@550F21CEMO Tried some overclocking again yesterday. Even with eCores disabled I couldn't get 5.5Ghz stable without needing 1.38V. Not worth it in the slightest.
      It is what it is. You win some you lose some. Lost my 9700k as well. Won the 3770k though, got that to 4.9Ghz.

  • @ProjectSmithTech
    @ProjectSmithTech Місяць тому

    JPU...?

  • @TheDeadStyx
    @TheDeadStyx Місяць тому

    And here I am, a few weeks before doing that big jump from 9900k to 13900k.

    • @AshtonCoolman
      @AshtonCoolman Місяць тому +1

      I went from a 9900k to a 7800X3D+4090. It puts out so much less heat than the i9😂

    • @RadeonRX
      @RadeonRX Місяць тому +1

      13900K not so bad, just needs to be water cooled and undervolted

    • @TheDeadStyx
      @TheDeadStyx Місяць тому

      @@RadeonRX already have a 480 HeatKiller bought specifically for it. Thanks

  • @CVLova
    @CVLova Місяць тому

    Let's go!

  • @100500daniel
    @100500daniel Місяць тому

    Best use for an RTX A2000 :3

  • @AronHallan
    @AronHallan Місяць тому

    19:47 So cute, Lila right?

  • @drneisi6171
    @drneisi6171 3 дні тому

    Hair is looking good again broski

  • @zerzes
    @zerzes Місяць тому

    Package at 300W.

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 Місяць тому

    Have you seen the "intel fail safe" setting in the new asus. Bios it slams upto 1.7v into the cpu 😂 thats criminal 😂😂

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted2714 Місяць тому

    intel high end chips locking up but particularly on gigabyte boards - people would rather have amd at this point

  • @RadeonRX
    @RadeonRX Місяць тому

    Literally why Intel made delidding them still within warrenty, Intel needs to stop pushing these chips just to barely compete with AMD. Gelsinger needs to start thinking outside of the box and not rely on power pushing.

  • @dktha
    @dktha Місяць тому

    Useless CPU unless you put it under chiller or some exotic cooling. 14900K is far more manageable and shouldn't run unlimited power on that either. I have 14900K SP103+14900KF SP97 and 14900KS SP105 was the worst of them, throttling like crazy when power limited. Also required hefty voltage (+60mV) when compared all those chips at the same static clocks. Well, I like my Ryzen 7900 non-X 65W (actually ~88W)...

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted2714 Місяць тому

    new high end intel chips have problems - people are returning them

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 Місяць тому +1

    Intel pushed the cpu 200Mhz too far. Downclock and save 50% on the cooler and no downthrottle. Even the CEP limit can be triggered causing havoc, Msi waited 1year+ to disable the CEP correctly for 14th gen. I'm on the 9th bios on Msi 790i Edge on a 500usd motherboard and have never got the same performance for 2 days straight on the MOST expensive system I've ever put together.. z790i Edge 14900k and 4080rtx, one day Pubg ok, next f'n sucks. You never now had windows are loading up you cores. 1 core 80% rest 40%, it lags because 1 core is maxed out. Not to mention the F 'n core parking in windows, you're game demand more performance and the whole game lags while an uncparked core is spooled up. The network system thread is put on on a parked core, your'e f'n dead in game. Its like playing on 100ms server. Windows sucks on hybrid CPUs. Damn, 30k pc and i've given up been giving me the same performance one day to the next. And yes ram is stable at 7800Mhz through Karhu, memtest and all the others.. The Msi bios is plagued by bugs if you use the advanced features like V/f curves, partly hyperthreading etc, use some ecores. The ram latency explodes if you use more than 4 ecores. Why arent noone talking about this major downside with hybrid cpu. OK, you think Amd is better think again.. Going to 2nd. ccx the latency is insane so you cant play Pubg on that activated. On my expensive Msi board you never know if the bios does its own thing or respects youre settings. The Pch chip overheats so badly that the usb cuts out, great! WTF msi? The latest 9th bios that somewhat works is still in beta version after all this time, and somehow this is acceptable on a 500usd board?

    • @siberionhusky9225
      @siberionhusky9225 Місяць тому

      If yer running AMD, you'd either be using the 7800X3D (no second CCD to deal with)..or just using Process Lasso to run the games on the 3D V-Cache CCD of the 7950X3D (all other processes on regular CCD). Suppose you could see if Process Lasso helps with yer 14900K any or even see if the core parking in Windows 11 improves anything (assuming yer running Win 10). Maybe even disable the E cores for gaming-only usage?

  • @AndyPro05
    @AndyPro05 Місяць тому

    I think Arctic have bad contact and probably honeywell ptm7950 will do better instead of mx-6.

  • @peterfalkner4436
    @peterfalkner4436 Місяць тому

    My asus strix z690-f, old style hi150 capellix 93c 14900k 6.2, 3 cores 6.1 to 6 rest of pcores cores using INTEL XTU 41687 multi core score R23 you can cool 14900k if you get a good cpu. Lucky in cpu lottery

  • @PokeStoryHarry
    @PokeStoryHarry Місяць тому +1

    Some AIOs are tuned for Intel, pump direction matters too
    Intel should bundle cpu with AC and ear plug tho ;)

  • @jankees4037
    @jankees4037 Місяць тому +1

    Just fine tune the Intel, then it is the best CPU monster out there. People just plug a cooler on a CPU with stock settings BIOS and then say it is running hot. So amateuristic. Learn your BIOS options, become professional, then you notice the 14900KS is the nicest jewel in the world to have.
    I myself have a 13700K and it is such a great CPU, not taking much energy, nor becoming very hot. Because I know BIOS options very well.

  • @aVesela3_14cka
    @aVesela3_14cka Місяць тому

    Maaaaaan!!! Look at video from Talon's man he fix it finaly good job from both of you

  • @thegrimcrimson
    @thegrimcrimson Місяць тому

    Wow no way

  • @j.a.velarde5901
    @j.a.velarde5901 Місяць тому

    #FrameChasers - Given how important this issue is across the nation at this time, PLEASE include time stamps, especially for the conclusion at the end of the video. - You should make this available to us on all your videos. - Please make sure to tell us very very clearly which one you suggest, since we honestly need advice and help. Thank you.

    • @SinonStrike
      @SinonStrike Місяць тому

      cumsoomer, needs to have all the choices still be taken for them even after seeing all the data
      can blame anyone else if something turns to be a bad product tho

  • @tickl3daddy387
    @tickl3daddy387 Місяць тому

    He called it a Rocket Pee Pee 🔥🚀

  • @MythicMoto
    @MythicMoto Місяць тому +2

    I was debating selling my 10900k and Maximus Hero setup for either a 14900k or 13900k and Maximus Hero. However, between the errors happening in 13th gen and these hellscape like temps also present in 14th gen, I think I'll wait for my original plan when I bought the 4090 back at launch, and just go 5090 and 15th Gen with a Z890 Maximus Hero and top tier DDR5 since its now been out for a bit. I'll swap My 4090 for a 5090 later this year and then wait for that 15th gen for my 10900k Upgrade. I got a PG32UQX, so I'm not overly worried about the CPU since I'm in 4k, but I do want the best 1% lows I can get, and the better desktop experience is always nice!
    Edit: My 10900k @ 5.2ghz all core does still slay though..

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Місяць тому +3

      The 10900k is too strong for us, hella happy with my 10900k 5.3ghz and crazy ram overclock paired with a 4090 too good for the price

    • @thecatdaddy1981
      @thecatdaddy1981 Місяць тому

      Comet Lake is the new Sandy Bridge

    • @RAW_Reality
      @RAW_Reality Місяць тому +2

      Y'all have FOMO like a cancer. Cool, talk yourself into +28fps for (another) $3k. I mean, it's not like you could've done something like getting off your thumbs for that same cost or anything... Oh? You need to be an alpha that badly, eh Chad? And since I'm sure there's a plethora of sheep that'll want to call me a hater or "too broke", no... I'm just a realist with a better grasp of perspective about how my earnings are spent than mindlessly "needing" every... Last... Upgrade.

    • @tomorpedreiro3032
      @tomorpedreiro3032 Місяць тому

      @@RAW_Reality get some money lil guy

    • @RAW_Reality
      @RAW_Reality Місяць тому

      @@tomorpedreiro3032 Learn to read.

  • @knuckleheadcomputers
    @knuckleheadcomputers Місяць тому

    Intel gone fucking crazy