OMORI- Hero Crying Over the Piano/Backyard Secret

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  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +121

    Thank you all for 1,000 views! I never thought a video on my small channel could get that many. Thanks to everyone who commented as well. It’s nice have people to discuss Omori with in the comments.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +3

      @Aka animations oh thanks bro. I’ll probably be uploading more Omori clips soon

  • @wengonnwong429
    @wengonnwong429 Рік тому +1172

    The fact that Hero heard music makes me believe she was there with sunny for a brief moment since sunny was clearly standing away from the piano to play it

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +196

      I agree! Mari’s spirit is definitely watching over them.

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 Рік тому +92

      Question is, why did Mari decide to pop up only when Sunny started to go outside?
      It could be easily tied together with Sunny just starting to recover the truth.
      In terms of Hero, who was in a crisis thanks to... Mari, he pretty much got only a auditory hallucination to go off of. It seems odd for Mari to dissappear only when Hero waltzes in.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +139

      @@a.k8185 Spirits often try to be subtle when appearing to others. Appearing to multiple people at once could cause too many issues and sorts breaks the magic. I have a feeling if Hero needs help forgiving Sunny in the future spirit Mari may pay him a visit

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 Рік тому +48

      @@Ambivalence18
      I guess.
      - - - - - -
      So... i will mention something interesting here:
      Spirit Mari doesn't appear at all in the hikikomori route.
      That's it, not adding anything else to elaborate on it.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +23

      @@a.k8185 I’ve never played that route but that’s very interesting. Makes sense though.

  • @heliodorable4612
    @heliodorable4612 Рік тому +1004

    hero is such an underrated character... i've even seen people call him boring. his grief and pain over thinking for 4 years that he just let the person he loved most feel like she had no other options than to end her own life is arguably the second most tragic aspect of the entire game

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +181

      One interesting thing I thought about was Hero’s reaction to the truth… everyone says he’d take the longest to forgive Sunny and Basil but I wonder if he’d feel a weird sort of relief? Like there was nothing he could’ve done to prevent her death and it wasn’t his fault at all. And then maybe afterward he’s angry at himself for feeling that way.

    • @heliodorable4612
      @heliodorable4612 Рік тому +80

      @@Ambivalence18 i definitely imagine him feeling a lot of grief over the years of his life he lost due to his depression, but it's so hard to say whether or not he'd be able to forgive sunny and basil. that's part of why i find him so fascinating. it's a fundamental part of his nature to be the big brother that makes sure everyone's okay, but how could he comfort the people who killed his love and let him think it could have been his fault for years? even though they really need the support, as they are obviously unwell.
      also, i feel, like you said, maybe he'd be relieved at first that she wasn't suicidal, but then experience a whole new bout of grief over the revelation that she DID want to live and her life was taken against her will. for that reason he'd need the time.
      like i said, what an amazingly complex character 💔 hero's reaction to the truth is by far the one i'd be the most interested in knowing

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +34

      @@heliodorable4612 for sure. I’m also curious about what Sunnys friends initial reactions were to finding out Mari died all those years ago. I kinda hope there’s a prequel or sequel or something.

    • @kittykenma7192
      @kittykenma7192 Рік тому +9

      The exploration of grief is what really hits home for me in this game. Aubrey’s is very sad to watch because Mari was like a sister to her but Hero’s is so palpable it hurts. On the day he comes back and you try to go to the cemetery he can’t bring himself to go, and then this scene is genuinely heartbreaking.

    • @heliodorable4612
      @heliodorable4612 Рік тому +6

      @@kittykenma7192 so true, each one of the main 5 deals with their grief in very different and believable ways... their individuality draws you to them because you want to know what was running through their mind at any given time. things like this are why i believe the characters are the best part of the game.

  • @Egg7O
    @Egg7O Рік тому +75

    mari: maybe i pushed you too hard
    sunny: maybe i pushed you too hard

  • @The0LDies
    @The0LDies Рік тому +526

    My older sister has been playing omori for a while and is a bit before this point and currently thinks Mari pushed sunny down the stairs and these are some flashes of memories with extreme denial or something, if she hears “Maybe I pushed you too hard” she’s gonna be dead set on that theory and her reaction after finding out the roles are revered is gonna be hysterical

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +99

      So she thinks Mari pushed Sunny? How does she think Mari died then???

    • @The0LDies
      @The0LDies Рік тому +156

      @@Ambivalence18 she thinks mari killed herself out of guilt

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +93

      @@The0LDies ah I see. That would be an interesting story ngl given how protective Mari was

    • @Carboy45
      @Carboy45 Рік тому +49

      My little sister thinks Basil possibly killed Mari atm since he keeps saying sorry she also had other theories too as she played the game she's just about to enter black space.

    • @Eris.s
      @Eris.s Рік тому +13

      @@Carboy45 did they go through blackspace already?

  • @lunoct
    @lunoct Рік тому +329

    mari behind sunny in the bathroom mirror doesn't really scare me, it's very melancholic to me. it really feels like mari is watching over sunny. i strongly think ghost mari is real and not just hallucinations tbh

    • @BecketTheHymnist
      @BecketTheHymnist Рік тому +54

      I also subscribe to a supernatural happenings theory. Basil and Sunny being able to see each other's "somethings" is some really good evidence too. I also think Mari is trying to help Sunny, there's no way she wants to see him live the life he's currently trapped in.

    • @kyleco9149
      @kyleco9149 11 місяців тому +9

      This the hallucination in the mirror where you see Mari behind sunny just standing behind him, it didn't even feel unsettling but just sad, that she'll always watch over him even in spirit.

    • @PadamiPlays
      @PadamiPlays 7 місяців тому +5

      I believe that ??? In the phobia battles is indeed Mari. As it is quite confirmed in the deep well part.)(2 days left)

    • @asbebers001
      @asbebers001 3 місяці тому +3

      But it is rather scary, because she was never THAT much taller. You get what that means?

    • @Chaki21
      @Chaki21 2 місяці тому

      ​@@asbebers001she's actually disproportionate if you look her torso and arms

  • @TheManDude
    @TheManDude Рік тому +82

    4:09 “Bro, get out of the bathroom already, your hair looks good enough.”

    • @LucyPennies
      @LucyPennies Рік тому +22

      Sunny: it's behind me isn't it

    • @autumn_sunday
      @autumn_sunday Рік тому +12

      "But just look at the front! I can't go around with a Vegeta-looking hairline!"

  • @zo0roo
    @zo0roo Рік тому +214

    everytime I think I get over how sad this game truly is there's always moments like this that remind me
    How one accident lead to years of tragedy, affecting so many lives. I feel like a lot of people overlook Kel and Hero's grief - especially Kel's. But Hero was obviously madly in love with her, and having that being taking away in what seemed to be a suicide.. blaming himself for years, not even being able to visit her grave. It's horrible. I could write a novel on this guy and it still wouldn't be enough. And now I'm sad all over again

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +27

      You know what’s interesting is toward the end of the game where Sunny, Kel, Hero and Aubrey are getting ready to go to sleep at Basil’s house, Hero mentions that he really doesn’t have time to make friends anymore and Kel Aubrey Sunny and Basil are really the only friends he has left. Meaning that Mari was probably his only childhood friend that was his age, the girl next door he grew up with and probably planned to spend his entire life with was taken from him due to one accident. I really hope Hero can meet new people and find someone who loves him.

    • @zo0roo
      @zo0roo Рік тому +16

      @@Ambivalence18 Yea that too. I'm pretty sure he didn't want to move on and start meeting new people - Kel kinda said it at the grave with Sunny, that he's "a bit more closed off now".
      Though with how charismatic he is I don't think Mari was his only childhood friend his age, but the only one he really got close to. In a way he's a lot like Sunny, both living with the guilt of the accident and becoming extremley depressed and isolating themselves because of it. But with the way he's still affected by her death I don't think he'll every truly get over it :(

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +6

      @@zo0roo probably not. I’m not sure how knowing the truth will effect him either. I don’t think he’ll be able to forgive Sunny but I think he’ll at least be able to move on knowing there’s nothing he could do

    • @BecketTheHymnist
      @BecketTheHymnist 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Ambivalence18
      In my head canon Hero is the FIRST to forgive Sunny based off the fact that he knows exactly how cataclysmic the guilt that Sunny has been carrying is. Also, he starts down a path at school to become a cutting edge psychiatrist. That's just how I see it though.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  7 місяців тому

      @@BecketTheHymnist I think that’s nice

  • @WorstAbaYT
    @WorstAbaYT Рік тому +86

    I swear people call Hero boring and confused about him not showing emotions but just imagine the grief he has to silently go through when the one he loved the most commited suicide in his eyes and he had no option but to stay strong for his brother and their future, he's the strongest of the entire cast

    • @bumbabees
      @bumbabees Рік тому +7

      i swear the second a character (or actual person, honestly) isnt super enthusiastic about their emotions theyre labelled boring and said to have no personality lol. i think they forget that this is how actual people act. were not cartoon characters.

    • @Xode_25
      @Xode_25 6 місяців тому

      where and when does that scene happen where kel tells you about hero yelling at him after mari died

  • @auditeerie
    @auditeerie Рік тому +85

    This game still continues to rip my heart out open 😭

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +9

      Yea it’s pretty devastating at times… great story tho

  • @ElectricOrange
    @ElectricOrange Рік тому +76

    ANOTHER SECRET??? DANG
    it’s honestly quite cool to see people still finding new stuff tho to today

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +7

      Finding new stuff is so fun in this game. I might try to log stuff that people know about but isn't captured on youtube.

  • @EzBound
    @EzBound Рік тому +25

    2:41 This dialogue is so sad, because Sunny's childhood ended abruptly, and so, he never had the time to take care of his toys and still have them or sell them like most of us do when growing up. Really shows how differently Sunny grew up compared to everyone else. I just wanna give him an hug sometimes, man. He didnt deserve this!

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +3

      That’s a good observation. It kinda reminds of when you see crowds of abandoned cars with their doors still open in apocalypse movies, or houses abandoned suddenly by war or natural disaster still having food on the table.

  • @conors4312
    @conors4312 10 місяців тому +11

    This is why I love Mari as a character, she seems genuinely sorry for everything that happened and just wants everyone to be able to move on together. This moment and the one following it in the bathroom is why I like it when people lean into the ghost Mari stuff, I genuinely think she was there and in headspace trying to help Sunny break the cycle

  • @coffee-ouji
    @coffee-ouji Рік тому +34

    I literally felt distressed all the way through the video until Sunny came back to the room
    Being in the dark really takes a toll on me

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +2

      Oh really? Personally I always liked the dark. Even in the daytime I keep the lights off and just have natural light

  • @imthecoolestguyalive
    @imthecoolestguyalive Рік тому +20

    I knew abour the Hero bit, but... The backyard part... What the Hell, man. That is so creepy and so sad at the same time. The fact that Sunny reacts the same way to both of these just. Breaks my heart.

  • @kittykenma7192
    @kittykenma7192 Рік тому +12

    I just finished playing this game for the first time and when I tell you this ripped my heart out. To see a character who is the rock of the group, the one who protects and uplifts everyone else completely break down was gut wrenching. Hero’s grief is so palpable, he really loved Mari so much and to think for 4 years he constantly wondered why she would take her own life. My heart :((

  • @2wml
    @2wml Рік тому +23

    i cant handle this pain any longer homeboy

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +2

      U good brah

    • @2wml
      @2wml Рік тому +2

      @@Ambivalence18 nah man omori kinda fucked w/ me dude /hj

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +2

      @@2wml it has that effect on people. It sticks in your mind for weeks after

    • @2wml
      @2wml Рік тому

      @@Ambivalence18 its been a year help 🔥🔥🔥

    • @yaser5720
      @yaser5720 Рік тому

      @@Ambivalence18 its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months

  • @waka727
    @waka727 Рік тому +3

    mari’s ghost seems to become less distorted the more sunny accepts what happened. the reverse of this is also seen in the hikikomori route

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +1

      Playing the hikkomori route right now. Thanks for pointing this out!

  • @headfirst1593
    @headfirst1593 Рік тому +3

    hero crying in secret personally broke me the first time in this game.

  • @marissfisch
    @marissfisch Рік тому +26

    Remind me to play this game in the summer and I just might

  • @SpaceKitten-ee4pc
    @SpaceKitten-ee4pc Рік тому +20

    NOOOOOO HEROOOO 😭😭😭😭

  • @greenteafn
    @greenteafn Рік тому +7

    every time i make someone play this game and they get to this scene, i try so hard to subtly tell them to go back, but it never works 😢

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому

      A lotta people just wanna rush through the story. They don’t appreciate the subtle stuff

  • @a_music_nerd
    @a_music_nerd Рік тому +15

    aw man i had no idea you could go in the backyard then! i’m still learning new stuff about this game lmao

  • @Brando550
    @Brando550 Рік тому +6

    i've watched plenty of different videos of this scene, but none of them ever had shown Hero to be crying. I just thought he had managed to keep himself collected and went to bed after Sunny does. This just makes it even more tragic T_T. And the game won't even let you try to console him O_o........

  • @kyubeyz_7062
    @kyubeyz_7062 Рік тому +10

    I didn’t know this existed until I saw Jaiden Animation’s playthrough of the game. I hadn’t seen any footage of it anywhere until then

  • @BecketTheHymnist
    @BecketTheHymnist Рік тому +7

    I had NO idea you could actually go outside at this point in the game.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому

      It’s actually the first time you can enter the backyard

  • @tmes69
    @tmes69 Рік тому +4

    The first time i went to the mirror i almost got a heart attack

  • @suwoo5118
    @suwoo5118 Рік тому +6

    “maybe i pushed you too hard.” nah, but he certainty did

  • @jeremytundo7144
    @jeremytundo7144 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn this game really messed me up haha :p Thank u for this video. U help me fill that void inside me now

  • @EMan-xj5cz
    @EMan-xj5cz 5 місяців тому +1

    Because of UA-cam compression whenever sunny walks in on Mari and the camera pans up and down it looks like she’s playing the piano as fast as she possibly can

  • @GaMeNu
    @GaMeNu Рік тому +10

    I love the detail of how the song at first ends kinda open and uncertain (first title music) and as the game progress it ends more closed, until the final duet, as if SUNNY is remembering the song again (or alternatively as if SUNNY is resolving the story)

    • @TheSkyOwl
      @TheSkyOwl 4 місяці тому

      Oh thats a genius theory

  • @JustAfruit
    @JustAfruit 6 місяців тому +1

    One day left
    Lets go to the hospital!
    OHHH LORD THAT STRANGE MAN KILLED THE KIDS SOMEONE SOP THE MAAAN

  • @Aural4444
    @Aural4444 Рік тому +11

    OMG!!! Thank you very much, I didn't know about this (T_T)

  • @urregularanimegurl3884
    @urregularanimegurl3884 Рік тому +2

    "Maybe i pushed you too hard" from mari shouldve been from omori

  • @THEMIMIK
    @THEMIMIK 8 місяців тому +2

    If this is Mari’s Spirit (which im posative is) I’m not sure why when Hero entered the room, she suddenly dissapeared as if she didnt want anyone else to have some sort of consolation by her “existing” back into the real world and being able to talk with her, especially by someone she loved just as much as Sunny
    I wonder if she wanted to keep a low profile. Knowing Sunny, he probably would’ve thought Mari’s Spirit was an illusion, and as soon as Hero would enter in it would make it clear that she was real. By making herself seem like a dream but also real, it helps Sunny and the rest move on instead of clinging to her spirit trying to bring her back
    That or ghosts just simply cannot interact with alive people when there are more than 1 person in a room

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  8 місяців тому +2

      Being seen by multiple people kinda breaks the magic of ghosts 🙈
      Hero heard the music. Mari is real.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for commenting on my video

  • @L3ORAA
    @L3ORAA Рік тому +4

    off topic but this was uploaded on my birthday
    funny bc i had an omori party
    let alone all of that, i never knew about this secret

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому

      Happy birthday!

    • @L3ORAA
      @L3ORAA Рік тому

      @@Ambivalence18 thank u!

    • @jeremytundo7144
      @jeremytundo7144 5 місяців тому

      Happy belated birthday. I'm curious to know what an Omori party is like? :D

  • @tabbynoodles3685
    @tabbynoodles3685 Рік тому +10

    *pounds fists on the ground in pain *

  • @Dewaxel
    @Dewaxel Рік тому

    That Mari's "Maybe I pushed you too hard." always gets me

  • @togati9258
    @togati9258 Рік тому +2

    i remember discovering this on my own and was really sad

  • @Mothlord03
    @Mothlord03 4 місяці тому

    I know it's always the case, but god every scene with that piano song is heartbreaking.
    Even when i started the game with no context the main menu made me sad as hell

  • @NaNaFan707
    @NaNaFan707 Рік тому +65

    PLEASE, STOP.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +5

      What’s wrong?

    • @NaNaFan707
      @NaNaFan707 Рік тому +6

      @@Ambivalence18 I am talking about how sad it is

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +9

      @@NaNaFan707 oh yea this part is quite sad. you can tell Hero is still in a lot of pain and guilt. Him hearing the music implies Mari's spirit was actually speaking to Sunny and it wasn't just his imagination.

    • @NaNaFan707
      @NaNaFan707 Рік тому +2

      @@Ambivalence18 Btw, thanks for making this video! I have never seen this cutscene before :)

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +6

      @@NaNaFan707 oh no problem! I think 99.9% of people miss the secret in the backyard bc there’s no reason to go down there and it wouldn’t even allow you to at this point in the game. I only found it bc I’m a completionist freak who checks every nook and cranny in a video game location

  • @amoura39
    @amoura39 Рік тому +1

    LOL THAT BATHROOM JUMPSCARE ALWAYS GETS ME

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +1

      It’s very interesting to me how Sunny sees Mari as menacing in his nightmares and hallucinations

  • @Carboy45
    @Carboy45 Рік тому +1

    Wow didn't know u could go in the backyard since u couldn't before at night

  • @Coalgate_frsh
    @Coalgate_frsh Рік тому +9

    Of course, Mari was not literally there. I assume that its just an auditory hallucination caused by a trigger that they both share in the enviroment. It might sound a bit weird; everyone handles trauma differently, but I suppose that they share the same "paranoia" considering that they both loved Mari to hell and back. Even if Sunny was responsible for the death and Hero dealt with it as a suicide

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +9

      I think I prefer to believe she’s watching over them tbh.

    • @Coalgate_frsh
      @Coalgate_frsh Рік тому +7

      @@Ambivalence18 thats one way to look at it, of course. However, because of Omori's more realistic and mature tone; she really is never coming back but they can hold on to her memory.

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +4

      @@Coalgate_frsh I guess so. I still like to think it’s at least a little supernatural

    • @jthecryptid
      @jthecryptid 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Coalgate_frshthen why include that line about Hero hearing the piano? Is Hero hallucinating too?
      This game alludes to the supernatural quite a bit, its just subtle so that it doesn't bog down the plog or alienate people that don't want ghosts in their "realistic" psychological horror game

  • @_.-Sunny-._
    @_.-Sunny-._ Рік тому

    Ahhh such a unforgettable moment

  • @MERTOALIYORI
    @MERTOALIYORI Рік тому +1

    Im so mad I didnt saw the backyard thing man :((((

  • @cond3mned_24
    @cond3mned_24 Рік тому +5

    4:10 Jesus christ like a god damn hachishakusama.

  • @cina2218
    @cina2218 Рік тому

    oh i didnt know this was a secret! i found tons of secrets because i love clicking things

  • @rockyblocky_guy1244
    @rockyblocky_guy1244 Рік тому

    what kind of telepathy going on here???

  • @thatfrenchfried
    @thatfrenchfried Рік тому

    I don't hear it? Anyone else?

  • @treyflorek8592
    @treyflorek8592 Рік тому +1

    😭😭😭😭

  • @someone7601
    @someone7601 Рік тому +1

    at what part in headspace did you wake up and get this? cause ive been trying to get it i just dont know what part i have to wake up or if its something you wake up to no matter what?

  • @paladumb7272
    @paladumb7272 Рік тому +9

    is this real?

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому +18

      Yea it is. Trust me I’m not smart enough to mod

    • @mushroomhollow5408
      @mushroomhollow5408 Рік тому +7

      i can also vouch, i ran into this my first time playing /srs

    • @Oliver62626
      @Oliver62626 Рік тому +3

      I also did this on my first playthrough, it's real

  • @TheColor-Red
    @TheColor-Red Рік тому

    ok

  • @lunamercury_3113
    @lunamercury_3113 Рік тому

    Wait is this backyard part a mod or can u actually go back there 😨

    • @Ambivalence18
      @Ambivalence18  Рік тому

      You can actually go back there. It’s the first time you can go back there in the game but most people miss it unfortunately.

  • @flower_chain7098
    @flower_chain7098 Рік тому

    How do you get this secret?