Ask Dr. Yo: I'm not (or wasn't) anxious. Why do I have PPPD or other chronic dizziness symptoms?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- A common misunderstanding from people new to my channel is that I'm dismissing chronic dizziness symptoms as "just anxiety." No, they ARE NOT just anxiety. The symptoms are real, and they are being perpetuated (made chronic) by nervous system dysfunction- and that is the "anxiety" connection. Watch to hear more about how anxiety plays in to symptoms, and why so many of you weren't or aren't anxious and are still dealing with chronic symptoms.
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Neural circuit dizziness basics:
• Why you have PPPD, MdD...
00:00 Intro
01:54 While there is a connection between "clinical" anxiety and PPPD, that is not the whole story
03:02 Many people with chronic dizziness weren't or aren't "clinically" anxious
05:15 What drives symptoms is not just "clinical anxiety" and worrying
06:41 How our early experiences can lead to "danger mode" without conscious "anxiety"
08:50 External stress produces internal responses that lead to "danger mode" even without conscious anxiety DISCLAIMER: Please note that Yonit Arthur, The Steady Coach and any of our other guests are not acting as an audiologist nor offering audiology or medical services services or advice on any public videos or on any other content. This channel provides wellness education and personal opinion only, and are not meant to be a substitute for medical or mental health instruction or intervention. Use any tools discussed at your own risk. - Розваги
My stress and anxiety are very physically manifested and dizziness is part of that. I wasn’t aware I was carrying so much stress until my body freaked out. The dizziness is getting better.
I'm nearing recovery thanks to you Dr Yo and our amazing community. Thankyou for your tireless work.
Fantastic!!!
So I've been dealing with this swaying sensation 24/7 (sitting, laying down, standing) at the start of the year. Had sooo many tests done and came out good except the MRI came out that I have Cervical kyphosis. Had gone to many specialists and have been told that im good.The thing is my anxiety came back. Went back with a Psychiatrist and the meds she gave me made me worse( swaying worse, anxiety worse and depression) even made me have walking problems. Feels weird when I walk. I stopped going with her and went with another Psychiatrist. I kinda regret going in the first place. My anxiety and stress have been making my swaying and balance worse than ever.
I felt a bit relieved when I found out about your videos. I signed up for the free course. I hope I can feel better. Thank you for these videos
So many people have dizziness blamed on their necks when that’s really not the problem. Hang in there.
Thank you , always grateful for your helpful words of encouragement and explanation ♥️
I’m am just so thankful for you you’ve brought me to 60% better I have not been able to drive or work for over a year and I’m back at it happily. #Pppd,Mdds,vestibular migraine, visual symptoms,anxiety, panick attacks,fibromyalgia thank you thank you thank you
This is fantastic! I am so glad to hear of your progress! Keep going! You got this!
Can i ask you, what helped you most? What did you DO?
What did you do? Pl.suggest me bcz I am suffering same problem and I am feeling helpless
I'm hvg vestibular migraine and PPPD from last 3 years. Just found ur channel its been such a huge blessing to me.
I love ur calming voice and the relief it brings in my moments of fear and anxiety.
Thank you for your kind words! I am so glad you found this channel!
Pl.suggest me also....bcz I have same problem
Look into long covid. I'm finally seeing a long covid clinic for these symptoms I developed after covid in spring 2020.
Dr. Yonit, thank you deeply for helping me begin to untangle PPPD. It's been so sad for me and you were the start and still the constant teacher on my way. I've got a long way to go still but information has been my lifeline! I feel I owe you much! Thank you!
Thank you for this kind comment, Karis! You can do this! ❤
Hello Dr. Yonit, just hello and thanks again for all our meetings, ciao from Italy
Hi Ernesto! You're very welcome!
Thanks Dr Yo, this is so interesting and you lay the differences out so well. Before having children I thought anxiety was simply the whole ‘feeling anxious’ type thing but I realise that my anxiety manifests physically and I obviously made the dizziness circuit strong!! It is weakening all the time though ✊
Yes!
Really appropriate your vids ❤
Dr Yo, you have help me more ways that you can imagine . I also started taking Vimergy cat claw and magnesium (CALM) which has also helped me through these rough times . Thank you again !!
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I was tapering too fast off fludrocortisone and wound up in severe fight or flight . My blood volume and blood pressure as well as lack of aldosterone like activity in the body triggered all the alarm: tachycardia, dizziness , adrenaline dumps, diarrhea, insomnia, no appetite , fear , panic , ruminating thoughts , countless ER visits ... i immediately went back on fludrocortisone and yet all that sympathetic activity was still there . Now 1 month post all this and dizziness when standing and walking is the only symptom left.. i know the medication taper triggered the danger alarm ( i take it for POTS).. but the fact that i even have POTs in the first place comes from a place of many past traumas that i need to heal from and work through..
Hi. I've just found your channel. My husband has been dealing with constant PPPD symptoms for over 4 years now. He's not the anxious type. But I would wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of repressed feelings possibly playing a factor. It was something I noticed about him a few years ago, and something I now wonder is a contributing factor is he has a fixed mindset. Which I learned about at work after a speech from our CEO who talked about the difference between a growth mindset vs a fixed mindset and it so accurately described my husband it was scary. He's so afraid of failing in areas that he doesn't naturally excel at he refuses to try. This is now bled over into things that trigger his vertigo to get worse. I'd really like to get him to watch more of your videos, but I'm afraid he won't. Any advice on stubborn husbands?
Thanks SO much. That helped a great deal to untangle those two experiences of anxiety. Seems very important to differentiate them. Hahahaha I’m sounding like a type A. 😅
I found someone that explains what I'm going through! There's so much good information here, but where should I start? I've been doing the breathing exercises and eye tracking a playing card. Thanks so much.
Join the community and do dr yos course
Yes, as mentioned, I would highly recommend starting with my free course on healing chronic dizziness thesteadycoach.com/free-course
It gets worse when I get periodic episodes of bppv and vertigo due to some reason or the other. Like sinusitis or migraines. I am planning to take ur course after I get over my vertigo.
I'm glad you found me, I'm sorry you're going through BPPV! It's miserable!
It’s so funny that people with PPPD think they don’t have anxiety. It’s literally an anxiety symptom. It’s a condition of personality. Anxiety is built into our nervous systems. People pleasing. Perfectionism. Good’ism. High achieving personalities. These are all built on the foundation of anxiety/fear. And it’s not all bad! We need some level of anxiety and fear for motivation. But this is the genesis of these mind body symptoms. Any time someone says “oh I don’t have anxiety” to me that’s the surest sign they’re not in touch with why they’re having these symptoms.
I think people’s responses to the idea that anxiety is involved are probably reflective of the stigma we have about mental health and how body symptoms are considered more “real” and “legitimate” than emotional distress.
I was diagnosed with IIH Idiopathic Intercranial Hypertension.It has affected my hearing, vestibular system, eyes PPPD is horrible
After years of gaslighting.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️
Oh Cathy, so sorry to hear this. I hope you are getting some relief.
Yes and No, but I'll be alright.Not many doctors treat IIH or even understand it.
Thanks again
Interesting. thank you
Hi Dr, I am wondering why when I am in fight or flight mode as an example before a job interview I just had I did not feel dizzy. Why is my brain not making prediction errors and causing dizziness because it is still getting danger mode signals in this situation before a job interview . But instead I will get dizzy when sitting in a lecture where I am less in fight or flight?
Hi Michaela as I mentioned in a previous post, people get prediction errors all the time! Your body is VERY sensitive to danger, and that means that your "danger response system" gets activated by all sorts of sensations and activities. You may not be in fight or flight 24/7 but it gets turned on easily and does not easily turn off. This can be healed.
Hi I have been watching a few of your videos and I stumbled on one which I can’t find now, but you mentioned vestibular rehab is good for people who when doing the rehab excercises brings on symptoms, when I do VRT and I focus on a spot on the wall and move my head lift to right it brings on a lot of dizzyness, do you think by continuing VRT I can fix this problem?? Thanks
That video is a good intro but honestly when someone has chronic dizziness, I rarely suggest addressing specific symptoms through exercises. Here's a video with more info ua-cam.com/video/jMfIcYFTrN8/v-deo.html
@@TheSteadyCoach thankyou for your response, I recall you saying that people who do VRT and it brings on dizzzyness symptoms are the type of people you’d suggest VRT too where as people who do VRT and it doesn’t worsen symptoms you wouldn’t suggest it to, did I maybe mishear?
I've been out of work for nearly 2 weeks because of this. Just when I think I'm making progress, it happens again rather I'm thinking about stressful events, my past or just content in the moment. The lightheadedness and the neuropathy happens and then I automatically go into anxiety and then the last thing that goes is my heartbeat. It's scary how I wouldn't be able to stand and my body would start shaking afterwards. I don't enjoy anything anymore and it's to the point where I have Suicidal Thoughts because I think maybe they would be better off without having to take care of someone who is basically turning into a disabled person. I'm scared of being alone in my apartment by myself and then if I do have the attacks nobody is going to be there to save me. It makes me feel alone and fearful. Sometimes the breathing techniques work but sometimes they don't. I'm supposed to be taking care of my mom and dad, not the other way around. Idk how I am going to pay my bills!?! I have to avoid caffeine, sugar and wear a light sweatshirt because I get cold easily now and the coldness also triggers it. I feel so lost and doctors just say it's anxiety and chances are my neurologist probably doesn't even know what pppd is and I am seeing him because I had a seizure 2 years ago. 💔
Hi Kimmie, I am so sorry you’re here right now and you are not alone and you are NOT stuck with this forever. Nervous system disorders like neural circuit dizziness are reversible and you can get better. Hang in there.
Hi Yonit. I have chronic allergy symptoms since April this year. In June, I experienced 2 spinning episodes of BPPV in 2 days. I now have daily dizziness since then diagnosed with PPPV as well as the allergy symptoms which don't go away. Antihistamine side effects made me more dizzy causing the room to spin. Could these allergy type symptoms be causing my daily PPPV? I've had motion sickness and short episodes of vertigo during my younger days. I am a youthful 70 year old. Can you give me advice please. Dizziness is so complex.
It is complex! My first suggestion given that you've had these other possible health issues is to have a full workup from a vestibular specialist. The allergy symptoms may or may not be related. If you are in the US, dizzy.com has a directory of centers that specialize in vestibular disorders. If nothing is found, then chances are you're dealing with a neural circuit issue as described here on my channel.
I just have a question that I don’t seem to understand and I think it would be really helpful in my recovery. I have discovered that my dizziness preceded an extreme period of panic attacks and health anxiety. So I am curious if being in fight or flight causes prediction errors, howcome when normally people are in fight or flight they don’t get prediction errors? As an example I am quite an anxious driver and I can feel my body going into fight or flight when I am driving as I get shaky and sweaty, however this is when my symptoms regarding dizziness are the best. So why is my brain not making prediction errors and causing symptoms when I am in fight or flight mode in the car for example? As well as this I would like to ask is your brain constantly in danger mode or is it just hyper sensitive to danger mode, as in it is often perceiving situations as dangerous and therefore creating symptoms? Thank you so much for all your help
People get prediction errors all the time! The other day I thought I saw a cat but when I turned around it was just a shoe. The differnece is that my body is generally not in a state of alarm and cats and shoes are not dangerous as far as my brain is concerned so that was that. Your body is VERY sensitive to danger, and that means that your "danger response system" gets activated by all sorts of sensations and activities. You may not be in fight or flight 24/7 but it gets turned on easily and does not easily turn off.
Hello Dr Yo! After about two years my dizziness is slowly leaving! Off topic question. As I’m progressing, I find that I need to wear glasses from time to time but it really heightens my dizziness. Do you think that will subside with time as well? TY ♥️
JESSICA!!! YAYYYYYY!!!!! Yes, that will leave… and I’M SO HAPPY to hear this!!!
Haha!!! Yay!!!! Keep up the amazing work angel! 😍@@TheSteadyCoach
Hello, my mom has been sick with dizziness for 3 months. Do you know if your advice can help people with spinal arthritis?
We don’t exactly know what’s going on but we would like to try.
This would be a really good resource for you! Yes, arthritis does not typically explain these symptoms (aka they are usually neural circuit): ua-cam.com/video/uTSbc-DSSp8/v-deo.html
I had a brain stem stroke a few months ago . This has resulted in chronic vertigo is this the same as pppd? I am waiting for treatment at vestibular clinic but was pointed in your direction by a vestibular physio.
It is not the same as PPPD. People with PPPD do not have tissue damage (stroke) that causes symptoms. However, your brain’s ability to adapt to changes is highly influenced by stress, anxiety, etc. The techniques I talk about will set your brain up for the best possible outcome, though only your vestibular specialists can tell you what limitation there may be on your functioning.
Dear Dr Yonit, i am wondering, when i would go to the doctor, he would say i have burnout symptoms. (diziness, anxiety, fatigue, stress, processing issues with eyes and entire system), but i hear almost all people with pppd talking about the cause is: stress or somethingblike that, but never about being burnout before or during pppd...also you never mention burnout...but it is so similar...what do you think about that?
Great question! Same thing, different name in my opinion. Burnout also means dysregulation of the nervous system brought on by stress. The reason I don't use that name is because burnous is typically thought of as involving fatigue and mental fog/depression whereas many people with NCD don't have mental health symptoms.
I am definitely the chill person with pppd. What if you can't find the emotion or trauma? I definitely had stressful times in my life, and I have curiously tried to unpackage them with an open heart. A lot of grief, anger, and hurt have come up, and when I think about them now, I feel at peace. What can I be missing?
all bloodtests and scans done and nothing physically wrong?
You may find this recent video of interest as I discuss this topic more ua-cam.com/video/9MWKH8XOoC8/v-deo.html
Exactly. And what if a person doesnt even have anything to detangle? I dont recall anything, I had pretty normal life and suddenly I dont...
I am curious if you have had PPPD ? And are cured now ? Thanks
No, I have been lucky enough not to have PPPD, but I have been an audiologist and worked with people with dizziness for a long time. I have also recovered from a slew of other mindbody symptoms like food sensitivities, IBS, migraines and chronic back pain.
Hi, if you no longer fear the symptoms but are just frustrated/mad/annoyed at them since they don’t go away what do we do? Should we treat the anger/frustration the same as fear and tell ourselves it’s just frustration?
this is a great question
I’m currently reading the book The Way Out by Alan Gordon. He says specifically that even feelings of frustration are stemming from fear.
Good question! I discuss this more in detail in one of my recent videos ua-cam.com/video/9MWKH8XOoC8/v-deo.html
I think I understand. But what if I'm not anxious (Im in 30%) and I dont have any history with emotional issues which could cause stressed body response?
This may help ua-cam.com/video/SKEincksdCk/v-deo.html
Many people have trouble identifying what got them into a stress loop.
Since having pppd for 6 years now I have had problems with adrenaline. My body seems to pulsate on my heart beat sometimes causing the rocking which seems to pound at times with little aggravation. Palpitations from time to time too
I'm sorry you're going through that. That is another sign of an overactive nervous system.
That is absolutely me. I am that 30% that is a chill person. But when I watched this, it resonated with me for sure. I can tell I am having a physiological response, especially at night. I believe it’s related to adrenal/cortisol issues. Also, a fear of going to sleep and waking up with vertigo. Vertigo is traumatic.
Does anyone know why my dizziness is worse when I lay down and especially when I roll into my left side? I also have to take super high levels of sodium throughout the day and night because it makes it helps tremendously, without it I wouldn’t make it through 24hrs.
Typically this is the result of brain conditioning- your brain predicts issues in that position, and so it happens. This can be unwired using techniques like somatictracking.
@@TheSteadyCoach well it sounds like I need to have an appointment with you. I will be the next one with a testimony. I believe that.
@@rebeccagrimshaw9982have you been checked for BPPV?
I was told dizziness was caused by misplaced ear crystals. What am I missing?
It can be. These videos are intended for people whose dizziness does not have a physical explanation.
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can Dizziness cure with Pychotherapy
Yes, if it’s informed by (a) the understanding that chronic dizziness is treatable, curable and neuroplastic and (b) it involves working with your feelings and body in some way
CNS in the red is at the core
Bingo
@@TheSteadyCoach how come people dont seem to understand this? Any guess? If there is nothing physically wrong then it must be cns and physical manifestations. Mind body connection. 80% of people with severe back pain have absolutely zero wrong with their backs. We have knows thid for decades and get people neglect chronis stress and sympathetic overpower
@@DarkoFitCoachI think people just don't believe there isn't something physically wrong with them even if that's what doctors are telling them, because how can I feel so miserable with there being nothing wrong? And then you read things over and over again where people said the doctors told me there was nothing wrong and then 2 weeks later I had a stroke or heart attack or whatever. So I think it's a lack of confidence that doctors haven't missed something that keeps people trapped in feeling that there must be something physically wrong. But once a person accepts that, then this stuff really begins to makes sense and healing can start happening. But I totally understand why it's hard to get to the point of accepting that.