Calvin I swear, I don’t know why MTV/VH1 has still not called for your own American History Music show. You are so knowledgeable all around but especially in the music history. Thanks for the education.
@@CalvinMichaels I have to take my certification for Social Studies praxis this Saturday. Listening to your history knowledge, I was like he could be my tutor. You would be an excellent SS teacher, especially with your background. Let me know if you tutor over the phone, lol.
Prince is his own genre. I went to so many Prince concerts, and yet, to this day I could never figure him out. I loved whatever direction he went toward. He lead me on a crazy journey and I held on for dear life.
@@sonjabethay2277 Wow, you are so blessed. I started listening to him as soon as I discovered him in the early 80’s. For me, he was the alternative to Michael Jackson, who was the media darling and marketed like a product, forced down our throats. I welcomed Prince’s change to my musical palette.
Yes--we love it when the racists speak about their racism so we can really see and understand it. It was shocking how INARTICULATE he is--the hypocrisy of it all. The interviewer really called him on it. He just didn't have the range to engage with artists who didn't look like him and have his life experience. Period. Instead of acknowledging his ignorance, he played the "I'm not Woke" card. Nah bruh--you need to go back to basic grammar school and expand your mind. A James Baldwin quote comes to mind---the one about being Black translating to being in a constant state of rage.....
This is exactly why I reject the term for Blacks as making “contributions.” We have always been the innovators, the composers, the founders, the deep thinkers. The masters. In your thorough understanding of the music biz, you neatly explained how the Jann Wenners of the world prop up these imitators. The message is in their music, not their formal discourse on or off the mic. Wenner is a bigot.
I’ve been thinking about this. I also don’t think white artist have “cultural impact” because what culture?💀😭 Like they never do anything but steal. But you’re right, we are the very pioneers that music lays upon, the foundation, the blueprint, we aren’t just contributors, we are the creators.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 right but the thing is is that I feel like what people still need to understand that like yt identity itself is rooted in anti-blackness. It’s sad because they could’ve been their own people and making their own culture but they made their own pan-European racial project to consolidate power and resources over indigenous land by using black bodies to build settler colonial states. They literally can’t do anything but leach off of other cultures. That’s why I think it’s important to know that cultural preservation is a countermeasure to cultural appropriation.
Keep in mind that the people who were burning Disco(Black) records were also the children and grandchildren of the people who fought against the Civil Rights Movement. That information alone tells you exactly who we're dealing with.
Also for some reason a segment got cut from the final version. Below are the songs that were referenced in relation to Jump Blues songs that had an early song structure mirroring what we would later see in Rock & Roll between 1941-1950. Rock, Daniel - Lucky Millinder and his Orchestra with Rosetta Tharpe (June 1941) Be-Babba Leba - Helen Humes (August 1945) My Gals A Jockey - Big Joe Turner (January 1946) Choo Choo Ch’Boogie - Louis Jordan (July 1946) Gotta Gimme Whatcha Got - Julia Lee and her Boyfriends (September 1946) He’s A Real Gone guy - Nellie Lutcher (July 1947) Drinkin’ Wine Spo-Dee-O-Dee - Sticks McGhee and his Buddies (February 1949) Rock the Joint -Jimmy Preston & His Prestonians (May 1949) Teardrops From My Eyes - Ruth Brown (October 1950) Time stamps The Opening 0:00- Introduction & Backstory 2:13- The Controversial Interview, Zeitgeist, Articulation, Gender, & Race 5:45- Articulation? The Quiet Part Out Loud, Bono 8:18- The Gatekeepers & a Good Ole' Boy's Club Race Has Always Played a Role In Relation to What Happens In Music. The Journey From Jazz to Rock & Roll. 11:17- The Significance of the 1920s and the Response to the Emergence of Jazz 17:18- Race Records Introduced to Compartmentalize Music 18:32- The Introduction of R&B and the Early Elements of Rock & Roll 20:58- Mainstream America's Rejection of R&B & The 1950s 22:54- R&B & the Introduction of the Phrase Rock & Roll, Alan Freed 25:19- How "Rock & Roll" Became More Digestible for White America 28:18- Pat Boone & the Cycle of White Faces of Black Music 29:29- Emergence of Electric Guitar Helps to Establish "Rock & Roll" Sound 34:04- Elvis....Black Music Repackaged for White Consumption Dismissing the Plight of Black Entertainers and Women in Music 37:25- Authoritative Dispositions 38:41- The "ELVIStification" of the Music When it Comes to Marketing 39:28- Black Emulation... Mainstream Consumption 42:08- The Struggle to Push Black Teenage Girls Commercially in the 80s 43:49- Hip Hop & Who Automatically Gets a Major Push 45:07- Digestibility, The Cycle of R&B Influenced Pop Acts 48:08- The Reality of What Crossing Over Means in the Industry 49:40- Black Women Overlooked but Rooted Throughout the Entire Industry 51:20- Black Artists Have Always Had to be Exceptionally Innovative for Acceptance 53:50- Women in Music Matriculating Through a Male Dominated Industry A Cultural Disconnect 55:33- The Has Always Been A Cultural Disconnect 56:40- Rolling Stone Magazine's Flawed Reviews of Black Music 1:00:33- Dismissive Reactions to Black Crossover Acts Who Embrace R&B 1:03:19- Racism & The Disco Sucks Movement 1:08:15- MTV 1:10:33- Rolling Stone and the Dismissal of Black Artists 1:16:27- Gatekeepers, Payoffs & Foolery 1:17:11- The False Perception of Black Audiences 1:18:00- Why Any of this Matters? 1:21:00- What I Feel Jann Wenner Aimed to do
Linda Ronstadt, Dusty Springfield, Barbara Mandrell, even Teena Marie ...more examples of people whose music was heavily informed by Black influences...
Nobody Isn’t. Sinatra was influenced by Billie Holiday, Mabel Mercer, Louis Armstrong. Gershwin. Jerome Kern. Cole Porter. Leiber and Stoller. Pomus and Schuman. We can go on all day. No black and female artists, no 20th Century music as we know it. Oh and Madonna and Aretha and Ray and Little Richard and Chuck Berry are/were very articulate and knew a lot about the prejudiced side of the music business
@@cryptjoi9194Let me continue: The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Linkin Park, Celine Dion, Britney Spears, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, Bad Bunny (HUGE culture vulture), Rauw (Latinos just be stealing from Blk Culture and we don’t talk about that enough.), Justin Bieber, Adele, The Andrew Sisters, etc.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Bono, Springsteen, Dylan and others white artists that are alive haven’t disavowed his statements or sentiments. It either speaks to his power in the industry or that they’re not willing to call attention to their own privilege. Or maybe both.
The nerve of Wenner to talk about women and black people not being "articulate" enough when he speaks at a 6th grade level on a good day. And let's not get into how he slurs his words like an oversalivating drunk who's had his tongue injected with a high-dose muscle relaxant. 😂
Jann Wenner got advertisement from companies that used the singers he features in The Masters. Its more about the people who helped him keep his business afloat more than these are the best in the industry. Its as systemic as any type of racism is.
One of these days we will stop trying to assimilate with those who downplay our achievements while at the same time stealing them. One of these days we will stop asking for their approval and begging for their trophies. One of these days, we will celebrate & value ourselves. One of these days.
I'm glad Jann DEFINITELY showed his true colors! I been knew he was ignorant and now most do as well. Unfortunately, he has amassed a lot of influence and money along the way. However, now I hope his smug ass is truly disgraced, shunned and the things he was/is behind like Rolling Stone get the side eye they deserve for being dismissive of Black TALENT!
Calvin, I knew this was going to be a good commentary. I wasn't prepared for the brilliant masterclass you gave on the history of rock and roll and music in general. This was SO much better than the History of Rock and Roll class I took in college. Everyone, especially history and music lovers, needs to watch this!
Calvin I know you went and took a long nap after all that info you just gave us. I really enjoy the knowledge that you always bring no matter what the topic is.
The fact that it was called rolling stone is something that needs to be unpacked too. Rolling stones stole music and name from black artist for starters
Just as I do with award shows like the Grammy's, I take music reviews by YT people with a grain of salt. They don't have the scope to really judge black creativity because they'd rather uphold white supremacy. They will praise a very mediocre watered down version of our music that is done by white artists but will lambast a black artist that runs circles around the artists that they give all of the credit.
Great analysis, Calvin! Thank you for calling out the very uncultured Wenner. I always got a condescending vibe from Rolling Stone. It's not surprising Rolling Stone hated Michael Jackson all those years; MJ embodied the genius of musicality and performance, connected with all types of people from different backgrounds, and spread meaningful messages throughout his music. Rolling Stone really played in the face of artists like, Michael, Prince, Whitney, Roberta Flack, Chaka Khan, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and so many more. I hope the reputation and legacy of Rolling Stone magazine is forever tarnished. Black American Music (from Gospel to Jazz/Blues to Country to R&B/Soul to Funk to New Jack Swing to House Music to Hip-Hop/Rap) is THE STANDARD. Period!
What they did and other magazines need to Whitney Houston I will NEVERRR forgive them. And the most recent thing I can remember was one of the top editors or something calling The Weekend a monkey.
I knew Elvis was completely manufactured, but something always struck me as contrived in the way he dressed and his "sensual" dancing. Thanks for shedding light on that. I really appreciated the breakdown on dancing in the hips vs. dancing in the shoulders lol. Even his hip movements that they tried to censor were stiff lol.
Elvis wasn't manufactured. He was inspired and influenced by Black America. And unlike some his mainstream white counterparts in his time, he actually had Black neighbors.
Keyword Master's. He couldn't even be serous about lyrics because Marvin Gaye has songs that are still be relevant still. Curtis Mayfield lyrics spoke directly to the times in which he was living. The reporter knew that's why he asked the questions he asked.
Hi, Calvin. I usually don't have the patience when listening to YT videos longer than 15 min long, but you were so excellent at bringing the smoke in this one, I had to stay until the end. You hit upon a few of my passions: the record industry, and the cross section of music and race. As a 60+ observer, I have had an ear-chair view of popular music for decades in all its variations. Jan Wenner could not have been more condescending but we ARE in an age where people feel like letting it be known exactly how they roll, and I appreciate knowing, and now the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame knows, as well as everyone else in the industry. Cheers and A+, Brother!
I love your commentary. The first, last and ONLY RS mag I purchased had Michael on the cover, at the height of “Thriller”. The article was an absolute hit piece; tore him to shreds; reduced him to a joke by not having any photos of him but rather they presented him as a cartoon character. By the end of that article I vowed I’d never buy that garbage ever again, and I haven’t. Wenner has always been on his YT tip, so his latest comments didn’t surprise me.
Calvin, I pray you have SEVERAL books in the works that will be unleashed on the public throughout your lifetime. You have an extraordinary gift for history and facts. I am 70 y/o and hear a lot of talk about "streaming", but I have never seen the passion, logic, intelligence, knowledge, and quickness in another person's "streams of thought" as I have yours. UA-cam & podcasting are great because they have given you to us, the public - but history/writing/books are greater.
Great commentary!!!! Those reviews are horrendous they should have been fired for that slander !!! This Jann Wenner situation is vindicating what ADOS been saying about the bias /racism in the music industry. The funny thing about them killing disco is soon after Rap started popping and I remember thinking bet you want Disco back now Dwight.
Great video but I must say Mariah is not Black and doesn't really belong in THIS conversation. She also largely benefited from being the wife of her label head. She had advantages on top of advantages. She's talented but her experience isn't that a Black artist and people really need to stop including her in our struggles and even achievements because it's not THE SAME for her.
She IS Black. Literally stay mad. Just because she had advantage doesn’t make her not Black, LOTS of Black Ppl have advantages in the music industry, like being Lightskin, having Eurocentric features or ideologies being male, straight, or upper class, etc. She is a PROUD Black Woman so you can go ahead and stay bitter and mad. 💖 Also just because she doesn’t fit the average experience of a Black Artist does not make her not Black. That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard before.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024Sweetie, Mariah is not Black, she's not even Half so please stop it! Someone who doesn't even have 2 full or mostly Black parents can't be BLACK sorry. On top of that b/c she looks anything but Black, since she is mostly white, she has advantages that not even a light skinned Black person would have! Black people need to stop trying to claim everyone. Mariah don't see herself as Black either so put the cape down! No one is bitter just speaking FACTS so that jealousy mess don't work over here kiddo! That's why her kids look the way they do and she refused a DNA test on herself lmao.
Brittney has said repeatedly that Janet Jackson was who she looked up to and who she modeled herself after - however every chance the mainstream media got they linked her up to Madonna - hence that silly ass kiss on MTV
Very thorough. I appreciate the history. I don’t know him & don’t care about his plight. However, these people are fading away & everyone has a story. Thank you for allowing the lager narrative to be told!
The question to ask is "do we care?" about what talentless demographics that dictate to us as what is music when we are the pioneers of everything they have. The answer is a big fat NOPE we don't care! Their acceptance of us is null and void.
Elvis Presley used to go the Apollo Theater in NYC, sit in the audience and watch the Black entertainers perform. There was nothing original about Elvis's act and mannerisms. He had Black female backup singers.... Also the black and white picture of Elvis sitting in the audience can still be found online or is archived somewhere.
Yes Calvin! Look at all those white rock n roll bands/groups in the 70s and ALL their background singers were/are black women ! I recommend y’all to read Maureen Mahon book “ Black Diamond Queens: African American Women and Rock and Roll (Refiguring American Music)” she speaks about it in great detail .
The historical journey you take us through makes me appreciate music on a much more deeper level. I always listen to music for fun, studying or for the message but now I pay attention to every instrument, pacing, lyrics & musical note placements. I wonder how the artist brainstormed the song or how artists make a complex message fit into a certain genre or audience. I have so much respect for black musicians and their dedication to their craft.
Excellent response.I love how you provided example after example of Rolling Stone’s critiques of black artists work. RS legacy means nothing now and it didn’t mean a lot for me to begin with.
There are so many ridiculous parts of Jann's comments, but when he said "Go talk to Grace Slick about music" (and also insulted black artists), I thought, "Try talking to Keith Richards!" Plus I'm an 80s kid. Do you know how many drunk, coked out hair metal group interviews I saw on MTV back in the day? Like the guy interviewing Jann said, "Stop it!"
Ooh someone who publicly admits what we all knew anyway. The suspicion you’re being directly overlooked and dismissed because of your gender and/or race? Confirmation it does actually happen. Excellent. He’s done us all a favour. Now you know.
SMH. A dude that can barely string together a coherent sentence puts himself in a space to determine who is and who is not articulate. Best laugh I had so far today.
I enjoyed you vast knowledge of Black Music Artist, and how they always have a up hill battle to fight. I hope they will always be remembered and Honored Thank You Calvin
Excellent. I agree 1000%. Find it curious how the person who is self proclaimed as an authority but disregarded the history of American music. The poplular title came from a black artist lyric the British group named themselves after. The magazine Rolling Stone was never a valid source my eyes and their co founder just proved it in his own words.
A lot well said. No matter how calm things may seem, race is almost just below the surface many things.. The more The Rolling Stones executive was questioned; the less articulate the became
40:20 This is why I say NE is the most influential boy band ever and the blueprint. NKOTB gets the credit for influencing future bands but NKOTB was literally made by the person who originally signed NE because he knew a white NE would sell like hotcakes. Combine that with the fact that B2M was discovered by Mike Bivins. Everyone knows Backstreet Boys and N’Sync (who more modern boy bands like a one direction are modeled after) were modeled after B2M and NKOTB who literally could not have existed without NE.
B2M was literally originally called “Unique Attraction”….like come on now lol. NE is the modern boy band blueprint, they mixed traditional showmanship (I.E. The Temptations, Jacksons, Four Tops, etc.) with modern street/pop culture style. This, along with the success of the band when they splintered, is what makes me think they deserve a spot in the RR Hall of Fame.
I agree with everything you said, but in my opinion The Jackson 5 is the boyband blue print. From the sexy older member down to the cutesy baby of the group. They are the original "boyband" that all others, including the Osbornes and the Silvers patterned themselves after. NE was able to be formed as the literal "new edition" after the Jackson they were meant to be. Everyone else just followed suit.
@@davizshawilliams1787 this is such a good point. like, new edition was the model for modern boybands (90s-present) but new edition themselves were v influenced by the jackson five. i love music history so much haha
@@davizshawilliams1787 That’s fair, everything can be traced back to them but I just think NE as a band was the start of the modern boy band. Though, in my opinion, they draw more parallels to the Temptations than the Jacksons. Ralph is more comparable to a Eddie Kendricks than MJ. Bobby = Ruffin, Gill = Edwards, Ricky = Paul, even Biv = Otis.
Very informative analysis. I always like how you give me a new artist to discover. Thank you for taking the time to “articulate “ 🤣 what so many of us felt listening to those short sighted comments.
Your comment on Jann Werner is exactly what I was thinking. He is extremely inarticulate, in top of being ignorant. I've never read a single article of Rolling Stone because in seeing it, it always represented the lie of white superiority. And this interview just proved my perception was accurate. Your comments on this was perfect. "Good Ol Boys". Great video
Wow! This all makes so much sense! I’ve often went in tangents to friends about the Usher vs Justin Timberlake paradox but all of your points made everything gel together. The intersections of all of these things is why I am so fascinated by pop culture and it’s larger implications. Great video!
Great video! But don't ever say New Kids is just as talented as New Edition. We know New Kids got the push but they could never give us 4 different acts from one group. NE gave us BBD, Bobby Brown, Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant. No comparison.
I think he was just being nice. I’ve noticed older Black Ppl always say something nice about the yt acts as a tactic to not get so much pushback, but they don’t really mean it. 😂💖
He stumbling over his words; he can't articulate either! He actually fixed his mouth to say the pioneers and greats of that genre wasn't articulate enough or they were intellectually challenged. Like huh? Not surprised at all just tired at this point
Mick Jagger always tells you. He tried to do black music but couldn't quite get it so turned it into something else. Like Sidney Poitier said " you can do the Watusi but we are the Watusi". Period.
@@beyourself2444 I’m not a fan of either and its crazy to not see that Taylor swift is more popular. She’s literally a white woman making pop music (pop music has the biggest fanbase and they’re also more likely to spend a shit ton of money)
@@brittneyking4284 yeah i think people mix up popularity with quality. i remember when i was in middle school and the jonas brothers were big, it got compared to beatlemania and people lost their shit bc they couldn't understand it was about numbers and teen girl fandom not about the music quality (even though i can't stand how white people blindly worship the Beatles but that's another conversation lolol)
@@beyourself2444 That's actually the opposite of anything. And Taylor cale from country which is nowhere near as rnb and pop internationally. Beyoncé was huge outside of America since Destiny's Child even in countries that were not used to rnb like Australia and New Zealand
All Wenner had to do was say he wrote a book about his friends. No one would have questioned it. But he elaborated. Sometimes all the thoughts don't have to be said out loud.
@CalvinMichaels you need your own history show, h3ll, your own history channel!! Also when I see interviews like the David Bowie/MTV, I'm sick and irate simultaneously. It's the same way I feel about life and politics. The majority of our fellow citizens are just completely ignorant (and racist for some). I grew up in the Midwest and we could not get enough of artists like Prince. Granted I'm from UCity which was more diverse.
@calvinmichaels Bruh…. Your perspective and viewpoint is so dope!!! it’s everything i feel and know… but then you interject such rich history and facts i didn’t realize!!! 👍🏾🔥
The way he dug his hole deeper and deeper. "maybe I should have thrown one woman, one black in" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY, all he had to say was these seven SPOKE TO ME- that would have fixed it instead he said THESE ARE THE TOP- WOMEN AND BLACKS AINT IT 🙄JANN BYE!
Well presented. Might I add that this kind of thinking has always been buried deep within music and results in industry plants or backing a great white hopeful into top positions. Eminem's success was a direct result of him being white in a normally black dominated space, Post Malone, etc, at least Em has talent to compete on the upper tiers of the genre. Please tell me how Taylor Swift is as big a artist as she is.
t swift grew up with rich parents and if i remember correcty, her father either owned or a had a stake in the record label she was on when she was younger.
@@fortunamajor7239I thought he was a CEO of a financial place? They lived on an Estate too I believe. Like they were rich 💀 I’m waiting for the day all her racism gets exposed.
Calvin I swear, I don’t know why MTV/VH1 has still not called for your own American History Music show. You are so knowledgeable all around but especially in the music history. Thanks for the education.
Probably because they barely play music or have anything music related.🥴🥴🥴
@@CalvinMichaels Or because they can't handle the truth...
@@CalvinMichaels I have to take my certification for Social Studies praxis this Saturday. Listening to your history knowledge, I was like he could be my tutor. You would be an excellent SS teacher, especially with your background. Let me know if you tutor over the phone, lol.
Love this brother!! Very knowledgeable 👌🏾✨✨
I’d love to see him as a huge critic and lover of music!
I love how David Bowie held that interviewer's feet to the fire!
Me, too. DB did not let it go!
Glad there are some who get it and aren’t afraid to call out the nonsense.
Link or google search term pls.
@@CalvinMichaelswhat do niggas have aganist elvis
The singer?
“You Tried It” should be it’s own series cuz whenever someone tries it, you be cookin’
😂😂
@@CalvinMichaelsnigga elvis is the king
Right 🦾🦾🦾🦾
Prince is his own genre. I went to so many Prince concerts, and yet, to this day I could never figure him out. I loved whatever direction he went toward. He lead me on a crazy journey and I held on for dear life.
Me too. He was just Prince. I was blessed to be at his last concert
@@sonjabethay2277 Wow, you are so blessed. I started listening to him as soon as I discovered him in the early 80’s. For me, he was the alternative to Michael Jackson, who was the media darling and marketed like a product, forced down our throats. I welcomed Prince’s change to my musical palette.
Prince was an amalgamation of all genres . . . and more.
@loriannrichardson7644
One more genius, Gemini!
those changes!
Yes--we love it when the racists speak about their racism so we can really see and understand it. It was shocking how INARTICULATE he is--the hypocrisy of it all. The interviewer really called him on it. He just didn't have the range to engage with artists who didn't look like him and have his life experience. Period. Instead of acknowledging his ignorance, he played the "I'm not Woke" card. Nah bruh--you need to go back to basic grammar school and expand your mind. A James Baldwin quote comes to mind---the one about being Black translating to being in a constant state of rage.....
Yes. I'm shocked to hear this man speak. He needs to hold himself to the same standards he holds Black and woman artists to.
@@matxalenc8410 Absolutely!!!
That part. Guy's a whole 🤡
So true!!! He was astoundingly inarticulate
To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time.
James Baldwin
Ripping into anything related to Rolling Stone and their colonialist past is always top tier.
Always watching 👀
Oh we LOVE to see it 😍
Exactly!! And done so masterfully!!! He’s a great resource and his music background is right on point!
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This is exactly why I reject the term for Blacks as making “contributions.” We have always been the innovators, the composers, the founders, the deep thinkers.
The masters.
In your thorough understanding of the music biz, you neatly explained how the Jann Wenners of the world prop up these imitators. The message is in their music, not their formal discourse on or off the mic. Wenner is a bigot.
I’ve been thinking about this. I also don’t think white artist have “cultural impact” because what culture?💀😭 Like they never do anything but steal. But you’re right, we are the very pioneers that music lays upon, the foundation, the blueprint, we aren’t just contributors, we are the creators.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 right but the thing is is that I feel like what people still need to understand that like yt identity itself is rooted in anti-blackness. It’s sad because they could’ve been their own people and making their own culture but they made their own pan-European racial project to consolidate power and resources over indigenous land by using black bodies to build settler colonial states. They literally can’t do anything but leach off of other cultures. That’s why I think it’s important to know that cultural preservation is a countermeasure to cultural appropriation.
Keep in mind that the people who were burning Disco(Black) records were also the children and grandchildren of the people who fought against the Civil Rights Movement. That information alone tells you exactly who we're dealing with.
They’re still alive today and say “racism doesn’t exist” and that “you need to get over it.”
Those were the pre-MAGA garbage we got to deal with today.
I swear...the amount of times I scream 'PERIOD!" should be a case study for this video!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
PERIOD!!
When I go back to edit the Final Cut I’m always talking back to myself during the playback. “Tell it!!” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I'm over here like "go head Calvin" !!!
Right!? I’m like “CLOCK THAT TEA!”, “OOP, HE ATE HIM UP!”, “PERIODTTTTT”. 🤣😂 “Let me go ahead an replay that part for the people in the back.” 💀
Also for some reason a segment got cut from the final version. Below are the songs that were referenced in relation to Jump Blues songs that had an early song structure mirroring what we would later see in Rock & Roll between 1941-1950.
Rock, Daniel - Lucky Millinder and his Orchestra with Rosetta Tharpe (June 1941)
Be-Babba Leba - Helen Humes (August 1945)
My Gals A Jockey - Big Joe Turner (January 1946)
Choo Choo Ch’Boogie - Louis Jordan (July 1946)
Gotta Gimme Whatcha Got - Julia Lee and her Boyfriends (September 1946)
He’s A Real Gone guy - Nellie Lutcher (July 1947)
Drinkin’ Wine Spo-Dee-O-Dee - Sticks McGhee and his Buddies (February 1949)
Rock the Joint -Jimmy Preston & His Prestonians (May 1949)
Teardrops From My Eyes - Ruth Brown (October 1950)
Time stamps
The Opening
0:00- Introduction & Backstory
2:13- The Controversial Interview, Zeitgeist, Articulation, Gender, & Race
5:45- Articulation? The Quiet Part Out Loud, Bono
8:18- The Gatekeepers & a Good Ole' Boy's Club
Race Has Always Played a Role In Relation to What Happens In Music. The Journey From Jazz to Rock & Roll.
11:17- The Significance of the 1920s and the Response to the Emergence of Jazz
17:18- Race Records Introduced to Compartmentalize Music
18:32- The Introduction of R&B and the Early Elements of Rock & Roll
20:58- Mainstream America's Rejection of R&B & The 1950s
22:54- R&B & the Introduction of the Phrase Rock & Roll, Alan Freed
25:19- How "Rock & Roll" Became More Digestible for White America
28:18- Pat Boone & the Cycle of White Faces of Black Music
29:29- Emergence of Electric Guitar Helps to Establish "Rock & Roll" Sound
34:04- Elvis....Black Music Repackaged for White Consumption
Dismissing the Plight of Black Entertainers and Women in Music
37:25- Authoritative Dispositions
38:41- The "ELVIStification" of the Music When it Comes to Marketing
39:28- Black Emulation... Mainstream Consumption
42:08- The Struggle to Push Black Teenage Girls Commercially in the 80s
43:49- Hip Hop & Who Automatically Gets a Major Push
45:07- Digestibility, The Cycle of R&B Influenced Pop Acts
48:08- The Reality of What Crossing Over Means in the Industry
49:40- Black Women Overlooked but Rooted Throughout the Entire Industry
51:20- Black Artists Have Always Had to be Exceptionally Innovative for Acceptance
53:50- Women in Music Matriculating Through a Male Dominated Industry
A Cultural Disconnect
55:33- The Has Always Been A Cultural Disconnect
56:40- Rolling Stone Magazine's Flawed Reviews of Black Music
1:00:33- Dismissive Reactions to Black Crossover Acts Who Embrace R&B
1:03:19- Racism & The Disco Sucks Movement
1:08:15- MTV
1:10:33- Rolling Stone and the Dismissal of Black Artists
1:16:27- Gatekeepers, Payoffs & Foolery
1:17:11- The False Perception of Black Audiences
1:18:00- Why Any of this Matters?
1:21:00- What I Feel Jann Wenner Aimed to do
WE INVITED ROCK N ROLL ALL BELONGS TO AFRICANS END OF DISCUSSION 📣🧨📣 YOU'RE MY BEST ICE CUBE VOICE HERE'S WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT YOU
You don't know anything about elvis he is the king You are very ignorant like all the mj fans
Lesson: Don't allow outsiders to have the credibility to gate keep your own culture.
Exactly
SPEAK ON IT 👏🏾
Linda Ronstadt, Dusty Springfield, Barbara Mandrell, even Teena Marie ...more examples of people whose music was heavily informed by Black influences...
Elvis Presley, Bee Gees, Justin Timberlake, Madonna, Billy Joel, and U2.… also, just to name a few more.. We can keep going on and on..
Nobody Isn’t. Sinatra was influenced by Billie Holiday, Mabel Mercer, Louis Armstrong. Gershwin. Jerome Kern. Cole Porter. Leiber and Stoller. Pomus and Schuman. We can go on all day. No black and female artists, no 20th Century music as we know it.
Oh and Madonna and Aretha and Ray and Little Richard and Chuck Berry are/were very articulate and knew a lot about the prejudiced side of the music business
Not to be rude, but too many Black Ppl were nice to them and just letting ppl in. I cannot stand it. 😬
@@cryptjoi9194Let me continue: The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Linkin Park, Celine Dion, Britney Spears, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, Bad Bunny (HUGE culture vulture), Rauw (Latinos just be stealing from Blk Culture and we don’t talk about that enough.), Justin Bieber, Adele, The Andrew Sisters, etc.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Bono, Springsteen, Dylan and others white artists that are alive haven’t disavowed his statements or sentiments. It either speaks to his power in the industry or that they’re not willing to call attention to their own privilege. Or maybe both.
I would want my interview removed from the book.
Nothing but crickets from “The Masters”
@@CalvinMichaels Yup and Bono , Springsteen and Dylan are supposed to be all about equality and inclusion.
@@jayelee7112not really Bob Dylan, he was annoying those civil rights activists at the rally’s, he was always performative
@@CalvinMichaelsLol “the masters”
The nerve of Wenner to talk about women and black people not being "articulate" enough when he speaks at a 6th grade level on a good day. And let's not get into how he slurs his words like an oversalivating drunk who's had his tongue injected with a high-dose muscle relaxant. 😂
He could barely get through his own response! The nerve..
The privilege of it all...
This was such a READ. 💀😭
@@CalvinMichaelsYou don't know anything about elvis Presley
@@CalvinMichaelsdon't disrespect elvis again just go listen to wacko jacko and leave Elvis alone
Jann Wenner got advertisement from companies that used the singers he features in The Masters. Its more about the people who helped him keep his business afloat more than these are the best in the industry. Its as systemic as any type of racism is.
That part!
One of these days we will stop trying to assimilate with those who downplay our achievements while at the same time stealing them. One of these days we will stop asking for their approval and begging for their trophies. One of these days, we will celebrate & value ourselves. One of these days.
Let's commit to making that d*** right now.✊🏽
I need to to start and hurry up
THIS!
I'm glad Jann DEFINITELY showed his true colors! I been knew he was ignorant and now most do as well. Unfortunately, he has amassed a lot of influence and money along the way. However, now I hope his smug ass is truly disgraced, shunned and the things he was/is behind like Rolling Stone get the side eye they deserve for being dismissive of Black TALENT!
May he continue to be dragged up and down the internet.
I see what you did there. “Been knew.”😂😂
@@CalvinMichaelsElvis Presley is the king ❤
Calvin, I knew this was going to be a good commentary. I wasn't prepared for the brilliant masterclass you gave on the history of rock and roll and music in general. This was SO much better than the History of Rock and Roll class I took in college. Everyone, especially history and music lovers, needs to watch this!
Education is built to protect systematic racism, misogyny, etc. so no surprise you learned more here! Happy for you! We definitely need more of this
Calvin I know you went and took a long nap after all that info you just gave us. I really enjoy the knowledge that you always bring no matter what the topic is.
The way I CRASHED once I finished the editing… the filming is the easier part.
The fact that it was called rolling stone is something that needs to be unpacked too. Rolling stones stole music and name from black artist for starters
Let’s get into THAT history. 🫢
Just as I do with award shows like the Grammy's, I take music reviews by YT people with a grain of salt. They don't have the scope to really judge black creativity because they'd rather uphold white supremacy. They will praise a very mediocre watered down version of our music that is done by white artists but will lambast a black artist that runs circles around the artists that they give all of the credit.
I simply just never look at them. They have nothing to offer
Great analysis, Calvin! Thank you for calling out the very uncultured Wenner. I always got a condescending vibe from Rolling Stone. It's not surprising Rolling Stone hated Michael Jackson all those years; MJ embodied the genius of musicality and performance, connected with all types of people from different backgrounds, and spread meaningful messages throughout his music. Rolling Stone really played in the face of artists like, Michael, Prince, Whitney, Roberta Flack, Chaka Khan, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and so many more. I hope the reputation and legacy of Rolling Stone magazine is forever tarnished. Black American Music (from Gospel to Jazz/Blues to Country to R&B/Soul to Funk to New Jack Swing to House Music to Hip-Hop/Rap) is THE STANDARD. Period!
Elvis Presley is the king ❤
What they did and other magazines need to Whitney Houston I will NEVERRR forgive them. And the most recent thing I can remember was one of the top editors or something calling The Weekend a monkey.
@@julianmiguel6508- Of stealing.
I knew Elvis was completely manufactured, but something always struck me as contrived in the way he dressed and his "sensual" dancing. Thanks for shedding light on that. I really appreciated the breakdown on dancing in the hips vs. dancing in the shoulders lol. Even his hip movements that they tried to censor were stiff lol.
Elvis wasn't manufactured. He was inspired and influenced by Black America. And unlike some his mainstream white counterparts in his time, he actually had Black neighbors.
You don't know anything about elvis Presley
Yuppp, the copied mannerisms
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024pure ignorance
Keyword Master's. He couldn't even be serous about lyrics because Marvin Gaye has songs that are still be relevant still. Curtis Mayfield lyrics spoke directly to the times in which he was living. The reporter knew that's why he asked the questions he asked.
Hi, Calvin. I usually don't have the patience when listening to YT videos longer than 15 min long, but you were so excellent at bringing the smoke in this one, I had to stay until the end. You hit upon a few of my passions: the record industry, and the cross section of music and race. As a 60+ observer, I have had an ear-chair view of popular music for decades in all its variations. Jan Wenner could not have been more condescending but we ARE in an age where people feel like letting it be known exactly how they roll, and I appreciate knowing, and now the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame knows, as well as everyone else in the industry. Cheers and A+, Brother!
I love your commentary. The first, last and ONLY RS mag I purchased had Michael on the cover, at the height of “Thriller”. The article was an absolute hit piece; tore him to shreds; reduced him to a joke by not having any photos of him but rather they presented him as a cartoon character. By the end of that article I vowed I’d never buy that garbage ever again, and I haven’t. Wenner has always been on his YT tip, so his latest comments didn’t surprise me.
My biggest brag is I’ve NEVER bought anything from there. 😍
Calvin, I pray you have SEVERAL books in the works that will be unleashed on the public throughout your lifetime. You have an extraordinary gift for history and facts. I am 70 y/o and hear a lot of talk about "streaming", but I have never seen the passion, logic, intelligence, knowledge, and quickness in another person's "streams of thought" as I have yours. UA-cam & podcasting are great because they have given you to us, the public - but history/writing/books are greater.
he's so brilliant!
Thank you ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💙💙
Oh, I'm seated for this!
Exactly, I've never been this early
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Excellent analysis Calvin. You did the research and understood the assignment. Mike drop--pun intended!
Great commentary!!!! Those reviews are horrendous they should have been fired for that slander !!! This Jann Wenner situation is vindicating what ADOS been saying about the bias /racism in the music industry. The funny thing about them killing disco is soon after Rap started popping and I remember thinking bet you want Disco back now Dwight.
Great video but I must say Mariah is not Black and doesn't really belong in THIS conversation. She also largely benefited from being the wife of her label head. She had advantages on top of advantages. She's talented but her experience isn't that a Black artist and people really need to stop including her in our struggles and even achievements because it's not THE SAME for her.
She IS Black. Literally stay mad. Just because she had advantage doesn’t make her not Black, LOTS of Black Ppl have advantages in the music industry, like being Lightskin, having Eurocentric features or ideologies being male, straight, or upper class, etc. She is a PROUD Black Woman so you can go ahead and stay bitter and mad. 💖 Also just because she doesn’t fit the average experience of a Black Artist does not make her not Black. That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard before.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024Sweetie, Mariah is not Black, she's not even Half so please stop it! Someone who doesn't even have 2 full or mostly Black parents can't be BLACK sorry. On top of that b/c she looks anything but Black, since she is mostly white, she has advantages that not even a light skinned Black person would have! Black people need to stop trying to claim everyone. Mariah don't see herself as Black either so put the cape down! No one is bitter just speaking FACTS so that jealousy mess don't work over here kiddo! That's why her kids look the way they do and she refused a DNA test on herself lmao.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024she has a white Irish momma. She was never black
Brittney has said repeatedly that Janet Jackson was who she looked up to and who she modeled herself after - however every chance the mainstream media got they linked her up to Madonna - hence that silly ass kiss on MTV
Exactly, if Jann was a true professional the list wouldn’t just include his personal favorites or friends
Calvin, you really should be putting your vast knowledge of music, history, etc. in books. We are here for it, Sir!!!!
Very thorough. I appreciate the history. I don’t know him & don’t care about his plight. However, these people are fading away & everyone has a story. Thank you for allowing the lager narrative to be told!
*Reading* and educating folks at the same damn time. I ❤ it 😅😊
The question to ask is "do we care?" about what talentless demographics that dictate to us as what is music when we are the pioneers of everything they have. The answer is a big fat NOPE we don't care! Their acceptance of us is null and void.
Absolutely! We do NOT care.
The pick mes will never learn!
You see the folks at NBC pushing artists like the Jonas brothers, Taylor Swift and Kelly Clarkson.
That’s why WE need our own Networks and start supporting our own stuff.
Elvis Presley used to go the Apollo Theater in NYC, sit in the audience and watch the Black entertainers perform. There was nothing original about Elvis's act and mannerisms. He had Black female backup singers.... Also the black and white picture of Elvis sitting in the audience can still be found online or is archived somewhere.
You don't know anything about elvis Presley
This young man can talk and talking some good stuff. Btw I'm old enuff to be his mother 😂❤
Yes Calvin! Look at all those white rock n roll bands/groups in the 70s and ALL their background singers were/are black women ! I recommend y’all to read Maureen Mahon book “ Black Diamond Queens: African American Women and Rock and Roll (Refiguring American Music)” she speaks about it in great detail .
Thanks going to check this book out!
Thank you, definitely will be reading! I HAVE seen this, matters of fact, I see it with Taylor Swift. And it says so much.
Elvis was just a white swaggerless version of Jackie Wilson, especially his performance style.
Pure ignorance elvis and Jackie Wilson were very good Friends mj fans are very ignorant
Thank you for schoolin the folks💙
The historical journey you take us through makes me appreciate music on a much more deeper level. I always listen to music for fun, studying or for the message but now I pay attention to every instrument, pacing, lyrics & musical note placements. I wonder how the artist brainstormed the song or how artists make a complex message fit into a certain genre or audience. I have so much respect for black musicians and their dedication to their craft.
You didn't mention when Rolling Stone left Prince off the greatest guitarist list.
No surprise there.
Happy Sunday Calvin n utubers🥰Always look forward to hearing from you. So common sense. Thank you
Excellent response.I love how you provided example after example of Rolling Stone’s critiques of black artists work. RS legacy means nothing now and it didn’t mean a lot for me to begin with.
And the fact some of their more recent work in the last few years is still dropping the ball.
Excellent lessons Calvin! #BlackMusicIsEverything
Thank young brother keep doing what you’re doing B-1❤❤❤❤❤❤
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Another Banger!!! Your long-form videos are the reason why I'll always be a loyal subscriber. You're our resident youtube Music Historian.
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This notification just made my day! GET EM!
There are so many ridiculous parts of Jann's comments, but when he said "Go talk to Grace Slick about music" (and also insulted black artists), I thought, "Try talking to Keith Richards!" Plus I'm an 80s kid. Do you know how many drunk, coked out hair metal group interviews I saw on MTV back in the day? Like the guy interviewing Jann said, "Stop it!"
No because they really think their epitome of civilization and humanity, absolutely not. 💀
Ooh someone who publicly admits what we all knew anyway. The suspicion you’re being directly overlooked and dismissed because of your gender and/or race? Confirmation it does actually happen. Excellent. He’s done us all a favour. Now you know.
This is going to be a goodie. Let me position myself.
SMH. A dude that can barely string together a coherent sentence puts himself in a space to determine who is and who is not articulate. Best laugh I had so far today.
I enjoyed you vast knowledge of Black Music Artist, and how they always have a up hill battle to fight. I hope they will always be remembered and Honored Thank You Calvin
Excellent. I agree 1000%. Find it curious how the person who is self proclaimed as an authority but disregarded the history of American music. The poplular title came from a black artist lyric the British group named themselves after. The magazine Rolling Stone was never a valid source my eyes and their co founder just proved it in his own words.
A lot well said. No matter how calm things may seem, race is almost just below the surface many things..
The more The Rolling Stones executive was questioned; the less articulate the became
40:20 This is why I say NE is the most influential boy band ever and the blueprint. NKOTB gets the credit for influencing future bands but NKOTB was literally made by the person who originally signed NE because he knew a white NE would sell like hotcakes. Combine that with the fact that B2M was discovered by Mike Bivins. Everyone knows Backstreet Boys and N’Sync (who more modern boy bands like a one direction are modeled after) were modeled after B2M and NKOTB who literally could not have existed without NE.
B2M was literally originally called “Unique Attraction”….like come on now lol. NE is the modern boy band blueprint, they mixed traditional showmanship (I.E. The Temptations, Jacksons, Four Tops, etc.) with modern street/pop culture style. This, along with the success of the band when they splintered, is what makes me think they deserve a spot in the RR Hall of Fame.
I agree with everything you said, but in my opinion The Jackson 5 is the boyband blue print. From the sexy older member down to the cutesy baby of the group. They are the original "boyband" that all others, including the Osbornes and the Silvers patterned themselves after. NE was able to be formed as the literal "new edition" after the Jackson they were meant to be. Everyone else just followed suit.
@@davizshawilliams1787 this is such a good point. like, new edition was the model for modern boybands (90s-present) but new edition themselves were v influenced by the jackson five. i love music history so much haha
@@davizshawilliams1787 That’s fair, everything can be traced back to them but I just think NE as a band was the start of the modern boy band. Though, in my opinion, they draw more parallels to the Temptations than the Jacksons. Ralph is more comparable to a Eddie Kendricks than MJ. Bobby = Ruffin, Gill = Edwards, Ricky = Paul, even Biv = Otis.
@@realer2748Vocal Group Hall Of Fame too, they need to be in ALL of them.
Very informative analysis. I always like how you give me a new artist to discover. Thank you for taking the time to “articulate “ 🤣 what so many of us felt listening to those short sighted comments.
Thank you Mr Micheal's, this was a really great and informative, video.
This was just spectacular! So much great information!
This was absolutely brilliant! ❤
That nigga don't know anything about elvis Presley
The same with Sam Cooke.
I remember Janet's Black Cat video with the White and Black girl dancing. That was epic😊
You did that Calvin! So in awe of your intellect, knowledge and passion. Keep speaking truth to power ❤
"The very people pushing the legislation were not even abiding by it"
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
Your comment on Jann Werner is exactly what I was thinking. He is extremely inarticulate, in top of being ignorant. I've never read a single article of Rolling Stone because in seeing it, it always represented the lie of white superiority. And this interview just proved my perception was accurate.
Your comments on this was perfect. "Good Ol Boys". Great video
Did you see how long it took him to get a single sentence out? I’d be EMBARRASSED to even interview him.
I didn’t even know what Rolling Stone was until 2020 when I got on Twitter. Wish I never knew it existed.
Wow! This all makes so much sense! I’ve often went in tangents to friends about the Usher vs Justin Timberlake paradox but all of your points made everything gel together. The intersections of all of these things is why I am so fascinated by pop culture and it’s larger implications. Great video!
Umm that Michael Jackson 1983 Rolling Stone cover. Am I tripping? That’s as bad as I think it is right? How in the world …
Had a similar thought.
I loved this video ❤. Great Video Calvin, amazing analysis. As a lover of music, i really learned a lot. Thank you.
Your in-depth music history videos are the best ❤
Great video! But don't ever say New Kids is just as talented as New Edition. We know New Kids got the push but they could never give us 4 different acts from one group. NE gave us BBD, Bobby Brown, Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant. No comparison.
Period.
I think he was just being nice. I’ve noticed older Black Ppl always say something nice about the yt acts as a tactic to not get so much pushback, but they don’t really mean it. 😂💖
He stumbling over his words; he can't articulate either! He actually fixed his mouth to say the pioneers and greats of that genre wasn't articulate enough or they were intellectually challenged. Like huh? Not surprised at all just tired at this point
"elvistification" took me out lmao
That nigga don't know anything about elvis Presley like you❤😂
Next thing they will be talking about greatest dancers of all time and excluding black people too. Smh
Mick Jagger always tells you. He tried to do black music but couldn't quite get it so turned it into something else. Like Sidney Poitier said " you can do the Watusi but we are the Watusi". Period.
Question. Why did Sidney say that??
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 oh it's from the excellent movie Guess Who's Coming To Dinner.
Also, for what ever reason People are saying Taylor Swift is bigger then Beyonce 🤣
@@AmoMe2009….that’s not racist lmao, Taylor swift may very well be bigger.
Beyoncé is popular mainly in the US like Elvis… Taylor Swift is more popular worldwide, that’s a fact and trust me I’m a fan of neither
@@beyourself2444 I’m not a fan of either and its crazy to not see that Taylor swift is more popular. She’s literally a white woman making pop music (pop music has the biggest fanbase and they’re also more likely to spend a shit ton of money)
@@brittneyking4284 yeah i think people mix up popularity with quality. i remember when i was in middle school and the jonas brothers were big, it got compared to beatlemania and people lost their shit bc they couldn't understand it was about numbers and teen girl fandom not about the music quality (even though i can't stand how white people blindly worship the Beatles but that's another conversation lolol)
@@beyourself2444 That's actually the opposite of anything. And Taylor cale from country which is nowhere near as rnb and pop internationally. Beyoncé was huge outside of America since Destiny's Child even in countries that were not used to rnb like Australia and New Zealand
This was a great music lesson.! We need to teach this in music class! Bravo!
PREACH MAN!!! VERY INFORMATIVE AND JANN WENNER STATEMENTS WERE RIDICULOUS!!!!
Calvin!!!! You put your foot in this video 🎉 Bravo
This is a master class for music
Crazy this comes up in my feed when the conversation about Drake is going on. Keep doing what you’re doing!
He has a one- track mind in music.
This is going to be a really great AND thought provoking video! Can’t wait to watch and thanks for your work on UA-cam, Calvin🥲🙌🏾!
All Wenner had to do was say he wrote a book about his friends. No one would have questioned it. But he elaborated. Sometimes all the thoughts don't have to be said out loud.
Debbie Gibson, Tiffany even Kylie Minqoue in the beginning were the mall tour YT teenage singers
@CalvinMichaels you need your own history show, h3ll, your own history channel!! Also when I see interviews like the David Bowie/MTV, I'm sick and irate simultaneously. It's the same way I feel about life and politics. The majority of our fellow citizens are just completely ignorant (and racist for some). I grew up in the Midwest and we could not get enough of artists like Prince. Granted I'm from UCity which was more diverse.
It’s not only some that are racist. 🫢 It’s 95/99%
Jagger is deeper than Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye?!
Keep up the awesome work young man!
@calvinmichaels Bruh…. Your perspective and viewpoint is so dope!!! it’s everything i feel and know… but then you interject such rich history and facts i didn’t realize!!! 👍🏾🔥
I was waitttttting for you analysis. I can’t wait until one of these music channels hire you.
If I was a black singer I would not do an interview with Rolling Stone magazine
I always wondered why Phil collins never got a huge push.
The way he dug his hole deeper and deeper. "maybe I should have thrown one woman, one black in" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY, all he had to say was these seven SPOKE TO ME- that would have fixed it instead he said THESE ARE THE TOP- WOMEN AND BLACKS AINT IT 🙄JANN BYE!
Excellent video. You're very smart, informed and intelligent, keep up the good work
Interviewer: “What about Jimi Hendrix?”
Jann: “… Who??”
Great breakdown Calvin. I always learn so much from your videos.
I don't believe you said New Kids on the Block had a similar talent level to New Edition!!!! New Edition was leaps and bounds above their peers.
Well presented.
Might I add that this kind of thinking has always been buried deep within music and results in industry plants or backing a great white hopeful into top positions.
Eminem's success was a direct result of him being white in a normally black dominated space, Post Malone, etc, at
least Em has talent to compete on the upper tiers of the genre.
Please tell me how Taylor Swift is as big a artist as she is.
🙋🏾♀️White mediocrity loves to elevate their own
t swift grew up with rich parents and if i remember correcty, her father either owned or a had a stake in the record label she was on when she was younger.
@@fortunamajor7239I thought he was a CEO of a financial place? They lived on an Estate too I believe. Like they were rich 💀 I’m waiting for the day all her racism gets exposed.
Girl I still don't understand Taylor's success either smh
Young man you are one of the best. YOU really do know your stuff. Respect.
Thank you ✊🏾✊🏾