One thing I really liked about 2142's take on the 'Walker' design was it's ability to literally walk over tank traps. Most games with the walker design don't really have any practical usage but 2142, like many things about the game, have actual purpose and utility with their designs. It makes sense and immerses you into the universe. 2142 was truly a masterpiece.
@@badgermcbadger1968 fans made a remake called project remaster, it remasters sounds, brings back unused voicelines, balances some stuff, change the amount of bots on singleplayer, cool reloads and not to mention graphics too. it was a THRILL to play, you gotta try it
2:02 You mentioned that you can't access the ammo boxes because the hips are in the way, you can just turn the turret to the side to make the ammo boxes accessible.
Yep! This is by far still my favorite Battlefield. something about it just makes me still go back to it and play it. Online HUB still working so you should all come and play who have the copy of the game or can access to it somehow! But I doubt DICE will make Battlefield go to the future as they do Star Wars Battlefront games too and Bf2142 would be kinda similar to SWBF. Battlefield 4's Final Stand DLC is the closest we can get to the modern "remake" of 2142.
You know. For all the crying about future setting FPS that player always cry about, Battlefield 2142, at least imo, *have one of the most down to earth* future element in a future war FPS. Yes, it have mech. Yes, it have hover tank, energy shield, etc.... but nearly everything else is down to earth and not far from what we are using today. ( Both side still use conventional weapon that is not differ much from today stuff) And oh, unlike the other Futuristic FPS out there, Battlefield 2142, or specifically it's setting, is very interestin, because *it's very, very dark* . The war between EU and PAC isn't because of the clash of global influent, but *pure survival* , due to the Ice age and it's consequense. ;)
Yet there doesn't seem to be resource shortages of any kind, considering there's a map with a Titan graveyard to it. Just imagine how much money/materials it would take to build just ONE of those.
@@StressmanFIN The world is getting colder due to the Ice age, but i doubt the Ice age is making raw materials disappear if anything less people would mean more resources to go around. Plus in a war for the last habitable regions on earth, no one really cares about cost anymore and are salvaging anything they can to fuel the war machine.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD im pretty sure with the power thats necesseary to run a single titan you could build a selfsustaining village, with heated crops etc.
I always thought that, as a design, the devs kinda treated the L5 Reisig more like an attack helicopter aesthetically than a tank. Everything about it screams "can be useful if you don't expect to actually get hit", and the way the cannons are loaded is a lot more similar to how crews load 20mms on modern fighter jets and helicopters. The same goes for its ability to squat. It's kinda like how Apaches are expected to dip just above and then below terrain. L5 Reisig is a fire support vehicle, intended to kill a whole lot of infantry and then use its shields to survive ambush and then squat and survive. Not very practical, but it does kinda make sense, at least aesthetically.
@@ArcturusOTE uhmmm yea sure, there are 2 big DC servers, One is called reclamation it's hosted in the US but it's mostly dead. You'll find their hosted servers mostly empty except on Weekends. The other one is a russian community but A Huge part of players are European and americans and the Servers are full sometimes, so they have a more active community. I'd reccomend not playing on Reclamation, it's Dead... So you should play on the EU/RU Hub. Its a bit tedious to download the server hub for it but not too complicated. Link: discord.gg/QY4Cur8b Do keep in mind that you need a copy of the game, if you don't have one i can link you a download for the CD and the key. If you need help with something, text me!
To the nekomata's credit, a casemate design makes WAY more sense on a hover tank than on a tracked vehicle. Casemate designs eliminate the substantial added weight (especially important on a hover tank) and mechanical failure points that a turret adds, substantially reduce the height of the vehicle, as well as allow for much more effective distribution of armor for its weight since you can invest almost all of it on the front face of the vehicle, and it makes combining crew positions a bit more sensible since the gun's always facing the same direction as the driver. Meanwhile, a hover tank's ability to move in any direction independent of its facing eliminates the most significant drawback of a casemate design- the Nekomata can still effectively engage while maneuvering. That doesn't necessarily mean the nekomata's a good design, but for a hover tank, it's actually pretty good. Its main issues are really just the offset cannon and poor handling.
honestly a fusion reactor would make sense as we are close to making right now meaning that in 2142 they're probably severely scaled down and they can't melt down like conventional reactors also they don't create any nuclear waste
There's a slight radioactive element to fusion as well, even if it's near-negligible compared to fission. And Titans are fusion-powered, no? What iffs me more is justifying fusion power for 50ish tonne combat vehicles and still have problems facing an ice age.
@@filipw8050 Kinda my point. Even getting the materials to make the aforementioned heaters and their spare parts ought to be fairly trivial. So...resource war for nuclear reactor bits?
“Mantlets are made small for maximum armour protection and weight” I guess Stalin missed the memo (Kv-1, Kv-2, T-34/85, Is-2, Is-1, *all t-34s before 85*)
In WWII mobility of fire wasnt considered as important yet (US beg to differ with their stabilizers here), thus speed of gun elevation was considered secondary to ensuring decent armor protection, especially against MG bullets jamming between the moving parts or entering the tank via odd angled ricochets. Thats why it wasnt such a big issue with tanks like Pz III, Panther and Tiger I that their entire turret front effectively was just the gun mantlet. Also, even today its not written in stone that the mantlet must only be a tiny piece of moving plate barely large enough to fit the main gun, coax and in some cases the gun sight (in some cases thats seperated into a doghouse), though the main reason for that is that as a moving part, its difficult to apply much protection to it without making it interfere with the ability to still move, unbalancing the gun, etc. which is why on an M1 Abrams the mantlet is actually a fairly thin piece of armor only, mainly relying on people just not hitting it due to size, and even if they do, they will likely only disable the gun. On the other hand, Leopard 2 has a fairly wide mantlet with the same array of composite armor as the rest of the turret front, meaning that there is no detriment in protection there, and mobility of fire is still excellent, with the gun being fully stabilized and elevating absolutely rapidly. The extra mass of the armor doesnt seem to cause much issue there, because being close to the elevation trunnion anyway it doesnt require much extra force due to lack of leverage anyway.
@@mcnuffin1208 Nope, they all had mantlets. A gun mantlet is a piece of armor that elevates along with the gun and covers the opening it protrudes from, ideally in all elevations, and prevents shots from entering. KV-2 is the only one on the list where the entire gun mount is very visibly bolted onto the outside (at least on the 1939 turret, the 1940 turret is more similar to the KV-1 turret, but upscaled in height to the same size as the 1939 turret), but thats not a mantlet, thats just the gun mount. All other tanks listed, KV-1, IS-1 and 2, T-34s of all variants, still had gun mantlets, but their guns were small enough that they could be swapped out without any external bolts just by going through the hole in the turret front (the mantlet would stay attached to the gun), as any points affixing it would be internal. This also means that the mantlet could be fitted more smoothly into the shape of the turret, which is probably why you made that assumption.
what i loved about the mechs, and everything in 2142 in gerneral, was that they feel grounded. you take a quick look at it and, yeah this looks like it would be possible especially the EUs stuff, with their sharp edges and corners and i still want a SCAR 11 or Baur HAR
Absolutely love seeing 2142 get more recognition anywhere, so great pick and great video! Another interesting vehicle to look out might have been the T36 Hachimoto from the Northern Strike maps, it's a hovercraft FAV that fires TV Missiles. Also, any thoughts on the HT-95 Levkov in Battlefield 4, as It's supposed to be the predecessor of the Nekomata?
U even played latest bf4 DLC? It's screaming about bf2142, there's blueprints of mechs, goliath, etc, read wiki, bf4 kinda predecessor to bf2142 story, especially WITH DLC's technology, vehicles, etc....and PAC logo
When the walkers aren't manned they retract into an idle pose, the L5 may have a better time of reloading when it's stood up. Also find it curious you covered the tanks' MG turret but not the walkers' AA components... or looked at the precursors to these in BF4's "Final Stand".
I would assume that by 2100 you would have working Fusion, not fission reactors. and more to the point, these fusion reactors would be about the size of a V-8 engine. Fusion reactors immediately lose containment and thus temperature containment and control and just cool instantly. This it the opposite of "Aliens" where the fusion reactor explodes like Castle Bravo. Due to long standing rules concerning any form of nuclear power, the radiation emblem is used. Plus when the game"2142" was made common knowledge about Nuclear fusion was not available. Nor was information on weapons we don't fret much about being in the future like LAWs, LASERs, and advanced robotics.
I feel like some of the design faults are a result of the ongoing resource wars, simply put they couldn't afford to make it better because that would take time and materials they weren't willing to spare.
"manlets are made as small as possible for maximum armor protection while also keeping the weight down" "having a massive manlet would make it very weak and also slow to elevate"
My fav part is where he gripes a tank cannot be controlled by one person only, as he sits there with a controller in hand, scoring kills in a _hover-tank._
Hey Spooks I’m curious to what kind of future tank you’d like to see. If you want I can draw up something with specifications you give me. I’ll send you some examples of what I can do via direct message if you want
planetside 2 is a big one. Vanguard looks like a good tank just lacking a coaxial mg and its only crewed by one person. Also 150mm gun is overkill but thats what I like in my tanks oorah
Churchson I think the vanguard is supposed to have two 20mm coaxial guns (It had them in the original Planetside) and there are ports on the turret model where they would be. They just don’t appear in-game as they would be a nightmare to balance for.
I showed this video to our curator that takes care of our armored vehicles. He really enjoys your series. In case you ever need more material...Other tanks/walkers you can look at - The Geth Walker and Mako Tank from the Mess Effect Series - Warhammer 40k has tones of walkers (Tau, Eldar, Orks, Impreium all use walkers) - The walkers from Iron Harvest - The vehicles from Planetside 2 (they also have some powersuits) - The Walkers from HAWKEN (they are take a different approach to walkers. Instead of being slow lumbering mechs, they are actually quick and nimble). - The vehicles from the starcraft series. Another idea is to take a popular video game series where a real historical or modern tank is used in the game, and cover what is right and wrong in the game. You have already been kind of doing this in some of your videos. Lastly, maybe you can make a video of what would be the most practical and ideal walker. Or maybe top 10 most practical vehicles you have covered. I know top 10 videos are rather over done, but I am just spitting out ideas. Anyway, keep up the great work! I work at a museum storage facility, and I like to listen to your vidoes as I work.
yes, but as in the adjective. you would call the mech riesig (the mech is giant) in german it sounds weird, Riese (giant as in a really big guy) would be more logical
So here's a fun story! I used this video for reference when 3D-printing and painting a huge L5 Riesig. I spent months studying this thing... and now it turns out, my new colleague is *the guy* who designed it! I asked about how you get into it - while I forgot to ask about the specifics, it seems the top is designed to fold open and reveal the interior. I think the L5 could crouch pretty low, so maybe you climb in that way? That, or a step-stool 😅
I've been really enjoying these videos so far mate, keep up the great work! They are really interesting and are quite informative :) I would love to see you do a video on some Starcraft vehicles such as the Terran Siege Tank and Goliath. That would be absolutely epic to watch and they are gonna get ripped apart, lol!
From memory the way _to get into a Riesig_ is to sprint for it as soon as the match starts, unless you're PAC. Then you keep spamming EMP Nades and run up next to it, making the pilot think you're about to C4 it. And when they bail out you jump in and use its guns on them.
I miss playing BF2 and BF2142 back when Project Revive was still in operation. But then EA threatened them with legal action so they had to shut it all down. The time that Project Revive was in operation were the happiest years of my life. There’s actually a video that BlueDrake42 did on the BF2142 that has me playing with him.
On the L5 I believe you could load and unload the belt boxes from the inside of the turret and perhaps the straps are made of a metal of some kind. Still wouldn't explain why there isn't armor covering the ammo boxes though. As for the MG on the A8, i believe that the belt could be fed through the turret if you compressed it down enough, however it would make reloading unwieldy.
How powerful would the planned Japanese tanks in WW2 be if they ever went into production compared to the German tanks? Some were planned to have some serious fire power and big guns.
Planned as the prototypes and limited producion or planed as the paper monsters? The prototypes were actually pretty decent, even great. Monsters were... Wastefull.
@@TheKingofbrooklin I'm talking about planned ones they were trying to create. Some of them were big with a powerful gun that was like 120mm or something I can't remember exactly.
I actually think they could've put proper microreactors in the mechs, especially with 120 years to play, I think that downsizing nuclear power would not be too difficult, given that there are airlift-capable reactors (vSMR) being conceptualized already. Plus, those mechs need what? Some 1500kW of power? Not that difficult to cool off, really, the cold air all around them would be beneficial for that.
Having a turretless design isn't entirely bad. It reduces the weight and profile of the tank. Turrets and all the parts associated with them add a lot of weight and forces the tank's design to be taller and more conspicuous than it otherwise would be. You can do a lot with the saved weight that comes with forgoing a turret; say improve ammo capacity, extra armor, a bigger main gun, or just do nothing with the weight savings and enjoy the better mobility and fuel efficiency. Because it's a hover tank the reduced weight is desirable because it means you don't need as beefy of a propulsion system for the same mobility, plus, the weight of a turret shifting around as it rotates and the recoil sending it in different directions would cause problems for a hover tank, lest the thing just rolls over and disables itself because it fired while the gunner and the driver weren't on the same page. If this hover tank had a turret, the chassis would have to be considerably wider to deal with those issues, which comes with its own issues (inability to fit in places, more weight, harder to transport, bigger target, etc). In the case of a tracked tank, the reduced profile makes it easier to camouflage allowing for better ambushes. As well it eases manufacturing and reduces the costs of manufacturing and maintaining the tank due to the reduction of sensitive moving parts. Not to say that it doesn't have its downsides, they're terrible against a guerrilla opponent, but the improved protection of not having a turret and the logistics benefits of lower cost, easier maintenance, more simplistic construction, lighter weight and ease of transportation are all pretty significant things to take into account. You could field more of them for the same cost and have an easier time getting them onto the field in the first place, against a conventional army that's huge.
I remember that one time my friend and I were talking about Nekopara, and he mistakenly called it "Nekomata". It took me a while to explain, why it made me laugh so much
EA said that conventional bullets have better physicality for the combat versus energy weapons. Judging by the sounds and muzzle flash, they're probably using a futuristic propellent of sorts (my guess is plasma?), except for the EU's classic smokeless cartridge revolver.
I wouldn't really count the crew section for the tanks. It would most likely be more than 1 person in the tank but for gameplay reasons reduced it down to one driver and a gunner like in BF3 & 4.
Yea, maybe I should of mentioned that the bots on 2142 are......special.... My Brother: "Hey, I need a ride!" Bot: "No." _Proceeds to drive off full speed_ My Brother: "ENCLAVE!!!!"
All in all a very solid video (as always), but I'd like to point something out. You mentioned that you couldn't see any access ports on the L-5 Riesig, although it actually has one. Look from the underside between its legs, it is quite visible. Combined with the fact that the walkers can crouch down, I don't think entering the vehicle is much of an issue. You also positively mentioned the Bogatyr's two optic sensors. Tho only the bottom one serves the pilot, while the top one serves the gunner. (the L-5 has the gunners optics mounted directly to the guns)
Your turret traverse is bad and you have strong armor, so play it a bit like a casemate tank destroyer. Keep your gun in your frontal arc and swing your tank to face hostiles.
I just wanna say I've been really enjoying your videos a lot, I found when you did your war thunder vids and im glad you branched out and did other topics, it's really cool to see keep up the great work.
I love your way of explaining things in a lightly fun way, makes the video so much more fun and not boring :D Also BF2142 has been my favourite game, used to play it a lot a decade ago thanks a lot for this vid!
You should have covered the Titans, those are just atrocious from a design stand point. Four naval twin-gun turrets could have been a lot more useful if they are not pointing directly downward at the ground. Just build a bombing bay, does the same thing with a lot less maintenance to worry about.
I feel that the C&C mark 1 Wolverine is the most practical in terms of mechs since it’s almost the same size of a human and is used as a squad support vehicle
I like the Tiger's design. It just lacks a few more details on the turret bustle. Perhaps a longer turret. And more equipment sticking out, mainly optics and what not. Would have been cool. I wished you also talked about the APCS too.
The L5 mech's main guns, missiles and anti personnel gun are all practical in the game. The cockpit is enclosed, using cameras to create a digital display inside the cockpit protecting the driver, which is suitable for the setting. The L5 mech can also couch to reduce its profile, and would help the crew to bail out. In all probability a downed L5 crew would wait for rescue, they probably have equipment to climb in and out like you would for a fighter jet bsck at base. The A8 tank has reactive armour on its side panels, a non explosive kind. So it's practical. The ADS isn't a shield, it acts like one but for short durations. Both L5 and A8 lack thermal imaging, smoke launches/decoys, but you could pretend that smoke is no longer used for concealment due to everything in the future being able to see through it, hence no thermals. In gameplay you never feel like a feature is lacking and the fact this tank has only 2 crew, the whole loading process is now automated, and the driver can also control the turrent is very advanced. The size of the tank is deliberately large, its actually classified as a heavy tank, this implies a much more armoured MBT requirement, probably due to mechs and infantry weapons. The plasma instead of gas operated weapons, and hover tech is just the fantasy aspect of the setting. The Japanese tank is an odd design, I pretend that a rotating turrent would sway the chassis causing instability, but the mobility of the hovering was worth it for traversing terrain. It's easy to make up excuses for sci fi as long as there is a justification for it within the fictional lore, and because of that I think all the vehicles are fantastic.
hey if you want to do a video on smaller mechs, try the ones in the los planet series. The game with the most mech variety are in Lost Planet 2. In that game, mechs also have a variety of guns. In addition, most of them they are operated by 1 man crew.
I feel like the "1 crew member in the tank" is purely just game mechanics Since in Battlefield 4, the driver spot takes the roles of Gunner, Driver, AND loader while the 2nd only takes the TC...and even then, only the HMG up top And the A7V "Heavy Tank" in BF1 takes only 5 people to fully crew, even though irl it needed easily quadruple that (they were also used as makeshift APCs, allowing infantry to dismount flamethrowers from off the tank to use in combat) But still, great vid
I kind of want to see you do a video on metal slug vehicles, since most are absolutely ridiculous, over-gunned, and very tiny. In a way, they're almost the opposite to most fictional tanks, though far from realistic.
Visual sensors cannot actually be miniaturized much more with technology because it's based on light collection of a sensor. Currently webcams on laptops are about as small as they can practically get while maintaining performance. Especially for military vehicles you'd want a larger visual sensor to aquire more detail and color depth. This as well as lensing so you can zoom without having to deal with quality loss of digital zoom
I mean, 2142 was all about the rule of cool, and as far as that goes, they nailed it. lol I also think the lack of coax was a bit heavy-handed, but I understand the balance issues tanks had in BF2, where a good tank driver could basically own the battlefield. I played both games pretty religiously back in high school, so I like to think I understand them pretty well, but it's been a long time. 2142 was by far my favorite Battlefield game, so I'm happy to see it still getting some love. The titan game mode was such a unique feature and I'm sad that it hasn't been done since. As well, the balance felt a lot better than BF2. Tanks in 2142 are almost exclusively anti-materiel, while walkers are anti-personnel and anti-air. Air power was anti-everything, but also proportionately difficult to use and very vulnerable. Infantry was given the tools to take out any target that showed up. Every vehicle had counters, and almost every situation was survivable if you knew what you were doing.
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God Bless
There is a way to play this game online and there are guides for it if you want to continue playing
Please review the Imperator Titan from Warhammer 40k.
my dude there is a website for dead battlefield games that have online play with a lot of players
so does multiplayer work? I remember playing this before EA nuked it
"You wanna hear about the vehicles." I mean I do.. but I wanna hear stories about the bots and their revenge killing quests aswell!
@SinglePlayer what
and btw the EU and PAC don't use nukes because they don't want to destroy the land, (bcuz it's one of the last warm and habitable places on earth)
Is it just the Northern Hemisphere that's affected? Or is the Southern Hemisphere affected, too?
@@Nod_Lucario uhmm im pretty sure that everything is cold except a couple of landmasses that survived
And also, because detonating nukes is illegal in Germany. And will be punished with five years prison.
@ᗰᗩᙁᘒᗝ Honestly I wouldn't trust the EU or the PAC if they ever do invade
Would be nice if they'd leave a couple of Titans behind for laughs
@Harli Baron what radiation..... xD
Make a practical futuristic tank design
I'd love to see this guy's optimal vehicles
Me too
yeah but with some unexpected constraint that could be related to sci-fi requirement.
I'd also like to see him design a hypothetical proper mech.
Yeah, preferably in treads
I love how the complaint for the L5 Riesig (literally "gigantic" in german) is that its too big.
And some say that russians are straight-foward
Quite common for German stuff to be big, right? :)
@@AndrewVasirov lol, well you'd have to ask their women, but by their governments small dick, energy, I'd say you're wrong
@@maxim6088 Calm down there micro penis energy dude.
@@maxim6088 I'm pretty sure he's talking about how Germans are tall
One thing I really liked about 2142's take on the 'Walker' design was it's ability to literally walk over tank traps. Most games with the walker design don't really have any practical usage but 2142, like many things about the game, have actual purpose and utility with their designs. It makes sense and immerses you into the universe. 2142 was truly a masterpiece.
I would love a remake or a sequal
@@badgermcbadger1968 fans made a remake called project remaster, it remasters sounds, brings back unused voicelines, balances some stuff, change the amount of bots on singleplayer, cool reloads and not to mention graphics too. it was a THRILL to play, you gotta try it
2:02 You mentioned that you can't access the ammo boxes because the hips are in the way, you can just turn the turret to the side to make the ammo boxes accessible.
Like how you turn the turret of an Abrams for the driver to get in.
Man i wish they remake this battlefield
The only battlefield i'm going to buy next.
I'l gladly starve until then, at this point.
That one DLC for Battlefield 4 came pretty close.
Rawer dude that fun as hell, the hover tanks were cool asf
Yep! This is by far still my favorite Battlefield. something about it just makes me still go back to it and play it. Online HUB still working so you should all come and play who have the copy of the game or can access to it somehow! But I doubt DICE will make Battlefield go to the future as they do Star Wars Battlefront games too and Bf2142 would be kinda similar to SWBF. Battlefield 4's Final Stand DLC is the closest we can get to the modern "remake" of 2142.
Well ig they made a sequel of the game now and we’re most likelly gonna get it remade for battlefield portal in the future
Fun fact: „Rieseg“ translates to Huge, so there‘s your explanation for the size I guess. Germans and their Wunderwaffen...
ja das ist gut !
But that Makes no Sense i mean bigest Tank in ww2 was the Maus so If you have a vehicle whats called Riesig than its a very smal vehicle
Feet first into Hell yeah we had to change that because it would be too close to going back to „the evil routes“
@@yoshiegg95 i forgot my bad
Should be could Riese
You know. For all the crying about future setting FPS that player always cry about, Battlefield 2142, at least imo, *have one of the most down to earth* future element in a future war FPS.
Yes, it have mech. Yes, it have hover tank, energy shield, etc.... but nearly everything else is down to earth and not far from what we are using today. ( Both side still use conventional weapon that is not differ much from today stuff)
And oh, unlike the other Futuristic FPS out there, Battlefield 2142, or specifically it's setting, is very interestin, because *it's very, very dark* . The war between EU and PAC isn't because of the clash of global influent, but *pure survival* , due to the Ice age and it's consequense. ;)
Yet there doesn't seem to be resource shortages of any kind, considering there's a map with a Titan graveyard to it. Just imagine how much money/materials it would take to build just ONE of those.
@@StressmanFIN The world is getting colder due to the Ice age, but i doubt the Ice age is making raw materials disappear if anything less people would mean more resources to go around. Plus in a war for the last habitable regions on earth, no one really cares about cost anymore and are salvaging anything they can to fuel the war machine.
According to the Battlefield wiki, PAC relies mostly on plasma-based weapons. It is the EU, that still uses classic ballistic weapons.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD im pretty sure with the power thats necesseary to run a single titan you could build a selfsustaining village, with heated crops etc.
Not to be a minge but killzone did pretty well
The crew can bail out of the mechs just fine as long as they do a parachute landing fall.
I’d imagine in the year 2142, troops could use thrusters to slow their descent.
@@autistichades5552 they probably have long fall boots built in
@@playalot3705 I find that to be too much of a risk, the descent is too far down to for a foot-landing.
Maybe the crew gets out with some "drawer-alike" system. If that was the case, that drawer could have a rope or stairs to get out of it safely.
I always thought that, as a design, the devs kinda treated the L5 Reisig more like an attack helicopter aesthetically than a tank. Everything about it screams "can be useful if you don't expect to actually get hit", and the way the cannons are loaded is a lot more similar to how crews load 20mms on modern fighter jets and helicopters. The same goes for its ability to squat. It's kinda like how Apaches are expected to dip just above and then below terrain. L5 Reisig is a fire support vehicle, intended to kill a whole lot of infantry and then use its shields to survive ambush and then squat and survive.
Not very practical, but it does kinda make sense, at least aesthetically.
I kinda see the walkers as replacements for BF2's AA vehicles. They have powerful anti-infantry along with an AA turret ontop.
dude theres still a multiplayer communtiy alive if you want ill link you some discord servers
I'm already on the Reclamation server, but I appreciate it.
Can I ask for the link, I've been trying to find one?
@@ArcturusOTE uhmmm yea sure, there are 2 big DC servers, One is called reclamation it's hosted in the US but it's mostly dead. You'll find their hosted servers mostly empty except on Weekends. The other one is a russian community but A Huge part of players are European and americans and the Servers are full sometimes, so they have a more active community. I'd reccomend not playing on Reclamation, it's Dead...
So you should play on the EU/RU Hub.
Its a bit tedious to download the server hub for it but not too complicated.
Link: discord.gg/QY4Cur8b
Do keep in mind that you need a copy of the game, if you don't have one i can link you a download for the CD and the key. If you need help with something, text me!
@@ArcturusOTE you can also just ask for help in the Discord server, there's a english channel where you can really get some great help.
To the nekomata's credit, a casemate design makes WAY more sense on a hover tank than on a tracked vehicle.
Casemate designs eliminate the substantial added weight (especially important on a hover tank) and mechanical failure points that a turret adds, substantially reduce the height of the vehicle, as well as allow for much more effective distribution of armor for its weight since you can invest almost all of it on the front face of the vehicle, and it makes combining crew positions a bit more sensible since the gun's always facing the same direction as the driver.
Meanwhile, a hover tank's ability to move in any direction independent of its facing eliminates the most significant drawback of a casemate design- the Nekomata can still effectively engage while maneuvering.
That doesn't necessarily mean the nekomata's a good design, but for a hover tank, it's actually pretty good. Its main issues are really just the offset cannon and poor handling.
You can also strafe-shoot while in a nekomata which could be of great tactical benefit.
Imagine a German stug but its a Hover vehicle, that would be awesome to see
honestly a fusion reactor would make sense as we are close to making right now meaning that in 2142 they're probably severely scaled down and they can't melt down like conventional reactors also they don't create any nuclear waste
There's a slight radioactive element to fusion as well, even if it's near-negligible compared to fission. And Titans are fusion-powered, no?
What iffs me more is justifying fusion power for 50ish tonne combat vehicles and still have problems facing an ice age.
@@Neuttah Honestly if they have the technology to build fusion reactors why don't they use them to power huge heaters
@@filipw8050 Well there goes the Cold war 2.
@@filipw8050 Kinda my point. Even getting the materials to make the aforementioned heaters and their spare parts ought to be fairly trivial.
So...resource war for nuclear reactor bits?
@@Neuttah well if they decided to work together they would probably stop the ice age
“Mantlets are made small for maximum armour protection and weight” I guess Stalin missed the memo (Kv-1, Kv-2, T-34/85, Is-2, Is-1, *all t-34s before 85*)
In WWII mobility of fire wasnt considered as important yet (US beg to differ with their stabilizers here), thus speed of gun elevation was considered secondary to ensuring decent armor protection, especially against MG bullets jamming between the moving parts or entering the tank via odd angled ricochets. Thats why it wasnt such a big issue with tanks like Pz III, Panther and Tiger I that their entire turret front effectively was just the gun mantlet.
Also, even today its not written in stone that the mantlet must only be a tiny piece of moving plate barely large enough to fit the main gun, coax and in some cases the gun sight (in some cases thats seperated into a doghouse), though the main reason for that is that as a moving part, its difficult to apply much protection to it without making it interfere with the ability to still move, unbalancing the gun, etc. which is why on an M1 Abrams the mantlet is actually a fairly thin piece of armor only, mainly relying on people just not hitting it due to size, and even if they do, they will likely only disable the gun. On the other hand, Leopard 2 has a fairly wide mantlet with the same array of composite armor as the rest of the turret front, meaning that there is no detriment in protection there, and mobility of fire is still excellent, with the gun being fully stabilized and elevating absolutely rapidly. The extra mass of the armor doesnt seem to cause much issue there, because being close to the elevation trunnion anyway it doesnt require much extra force due to lack of leverage anyway.
@Harli Baron They had basically no mantlet.
Only the KV2 on this list actually had a mantlet.
@@mcnuffin1208 Nope, they all had mantlets.
A gun mantlet is a piece of armor that elevates along with the gun and covers the opening it protrudes from, ideally in all elevations, and prevents shots from entering.
KV-2 is the only one on the list where the entire gun mount is very visibly bolted onto the outside (at least on the 1939 turret, the 1940 turret is more similar to the KV-1 turret, but upscaled in height to the same size as the 1939 turret), but thats not a mantlet, thats just the gun mount. All other tanks listed, KV-1, IS-1 and 2, T-34s of all variants, still had gun mantlets, but their guns were small enough that they could be swapped out without any external bolts just by going through the hole in the turret front (the mantlet would stay attached to the gun), as any points affixing it would be internal. This also means that the mantlet could be fitted more smoothly into the shape of the turret, which is probably why you made that assumption.
@@builder396 in which case they had extremely weak mantlets, as in no soviet tank was the mantlet actually any thicker than the turret armor
what i loved about the mechs, and everything in 2142 in gerneral, was that they feel grounded. you take a quick look at it and, yeah this looks like it would be possible
especially the EUs stuff, with their sharp edges and corners
and i still want a SCAR 11 or Baur HAR
i want my pilum and motion mines back
How about "The 5 best Sci-Fi tanks" or "5 actually good Sci-Fi tanks" ?
"The L5 RIESIG is too big" - its literally called "huge"
Me: its 3am I should get some sleep
Spookston: *Upload video*
Me: *O H B O Y*
Overused meme.
Absolutely love seeing 2142 get more recognition anywhere, so great pick and great video! Another interesting vehicle to look out might have been the T36 Hachimoto from the Northern Strike maps, it's a hovercraft FAV that fires TV Missiles. Also, any thoughts on the HT-95 Levkov in Battlefield 4, as It's supposed to be the predecessor of the Nekomata?
U even played latest bf4 DLC? It's screaming about bf2142, there's blueprints of mechs, goliath, etc, read wiki, bf4 kinda predecessor to bf2142 story, especially WITH DLC's technology, vehicles, etc....and PAC logo
2142. I miss those days. Good times.
Then come play it :) battlefield2142.co/
I mean, to be fair, the tiger in this game is definitely the most realistic tank of all the ones you have reviewed so far in this series
For the T39-Bogatyr I remember that you can see an escape trap between the legs
A lot of these design decisions can be summed up with "looks cool to average observer"
I'm sry. Every time you say "Riesig" in your very wrong way, I cringe. "Riesig" would be prounanced like "reesig".
literally no one cares
@@RatsFunHouse101 Germans care.
@@RatsFunHouse101 I was about to make the same comment myself, so pass my thanks on to LetsPlayPetrus for me, won't you?
Still prefer saying Riesig instead of Reesig.... Sounds like(for us English speakers) saying REEEEEEE.
EA right now: should we make another ww2 game or make another battlefield 4....
Battlefield future boi: am I a joke to you?
Orkz tanks when
Maybe for an April Fools video, it's hard to criticize something that works via sheer willpower.
When the walkers aren't manned they retract into an idle pose, the L5 may have a better time of reloading when it's stood up.
Also find it curious you covered the tanks' MG turret but not the walkers' AA components... or looked at the precursors to these in BF4's "Final Stand".
I would assume that by 2100 you would have working Fusion, not fission reactors. and more to the point, these fusion reactors would be about the size of a V-8 engine. Fusion reactors immediately lose containment and thus temperature containment and control and just cool instantly. This it the opposite of "Aliens" where the fusion reactor explodes like Castle Bravo.
Due to long standing rules concerning any form of nuclear power, the radiation emblem is used. Plus when the game"2142" was made common knowledge about Nuclear fusion was not available. Nor was information on weapons we don't fret much about being in the future like LAWs, LASERs, and advanced robotics.
@@thefullmetalmaskedduo6083 where is that tank helium and hydrogen located
always spoiling us
I feel like some of the design faults are a result of the ongoing resource wars, simply put they couldn't afford to make it better because that would take time and materials they weren't willing to spare.
"manlets are made as small as possible for maximum armor protection while also keeping the weight down"
"having a massive manlet would make it very weak and also slow to elevate"
My fav part is where he gripes a tank cannot be controlled by one person only, as he sits there with a controller in hand, scoring kills in a _hover-tank._
Spookston, can you make a Supreme Commander video?
It's on my list of things to cover.
It surely will be interesting, given the fact that every single unit in SupCom, with an exception for ACU (and probably sACU), are unmanned drones.
@@jacplac97 Precisely, and huge.
Hey Spooks I’m curious to what kind of future tank you’d like to see. If you want I can draw up something with specifications you give me. I’ll send you some examples of what I can do via direct message if you want
L5 RYE-ZISH. Rye-zig also works but the first on is more favorable. That's just how German is.
Ree-zig sounds more like it
Zisch?? Rye?
@@XMysticHerox No those are like those dictionary references that tell you how to say words.
@@Panzerfan93 Then it would be Riezig not Reisig.
@@zombygaming8831 wouldn't native-english-speakers pronunce the Z more like a sharp S sound?
Can you do a video on the ground vehicles of the Rebels, Galactic Empire, and the Zann Consortium from Star Wars Empire at war Forces of Corruption?
I imagine Spookston ROASTING the At-at, and it would be funny to watch, haha!
planetside 2 is a big one. Vanguard looks like a good tank just lacking a coaxial mg and its only crewed by one person. Also 150mm gun is overkill but thats what I like in my tanks oorah
Played PS2 a bit way back when, I'll have to do a video on it at some point.
Churchson I think the vanguard is supposed to have two 20mm coaxial guns (It had them in the original Planetside) and there are ports on the turret model where they would be. They just don’t appear in-game as they would be a nightmare to balance for.
I showed this video to our curator that takes care of our armored vehicles. He really enjoys your series.
In case you ever need more material...Other tanks/walkers you can look at
- The Geth Walker and Mako Tank from the Mess Effect Series
- Warhammer 40k has tones of walkers (Tau, Eldar, Orks, Impreium all use walkers)
- The walkers from Iron Harvest
- The vehicles from Planetside 2 (they also have some powersuits)
- The Walkers from HAWKEN (they are take a different approach to walkers. Instead of being slow lumbering mechs, they are actually quick and nimble).
- The vehicles from the starcraft series.
Another idea is to take a popular video game series where a real historical or modern tank is used in the game, and cover what is right and wrong in the game. You have already been kind of doing this in some of your videos.
Lastly, maybe you can make a video of what would be the most practical and ideal walker. Or maybe top 10 most practical vehicles you have covered. I know top 10 videos are rather over done, but I am just spitting out ideas.
Anyway, keep up the great work! I work at a museum storage facility, and I like to listen to your vidoes as I work.
I'd like to see a review on the HT-95 Levkov from BF4 :)
Also, it'd be cool to hear your take on some of the vehicles in Arma 3.
"riesig" literally means "giant" in german
yes, but as in the adjective. you would call the mech riesig (the mech is giant)
in german it sounds weird, Riese (giant as in a really big guy) would be more logical
@@Panzerfan93 yes i was also talking about the english adjective ;)
and the way he pronounces it it means brushwood (reisig)
@@Panzerfan93 crap this mech are small thing
So here's a fun story!
I used this video for reference when 3D-printing and painting a huge L5 Riesig. I spent months studying this thing... and now it turns out, my new colleague is *the guy* who designed it!
I asked about how you get into it - while I forgot to ask about the specifics, it seems the top is designed to fold open and reveal the interior. I think the L5 could crouch pretty low, so maybe you climb in that way? That, or a step-stool 😅
id like to see a video on the mako and hammerhead tanks from mass effect
>the turret is much more likely to get hit than the hull. That is statistically false.
I've been really enjoying these videos so far mate, keep up the great work! They are really interesting and are quite informative :)
I would love to see you do a video on some Starcraft vehicles such as the Terran Siege Tank and Goliath. That would be absolutely epic to watch and they are gonna get ripped apart, lol!
Hey talking about Mechs why don’t you try out Vehicles from the Leviathan Book Series?
From memory the way _to get into a Riesig_ is to sprint for it as soon as the match starts, unless you're PAC.
Then you keep spamming EMP Nades and run up next to it, making the pilot think you're about to C4 it. And when they bail out you jump in and use its guns on them.
Apparently the mechs where made to be tanks that can walk through the snow and sand that cover earth in 2142
I miss playing BF2 and BF2142 back when Project Revive was still in operation. But then EA threatened them with legal action so they had to shut it all down. The time that Project Revive was in operation were the happiest years of my life. There’s actually a video that BlueDrake42 did on the BF2142 that has me playing with him.
I ignore the "1 crew" thing, it's a gameplay concession.
"Right-o"
The L5 Riesig (or Reissig, as you called it) translated to giant or huge, so maybe that’s why it’s so tall
NGL I'd love to see you do a video or series of videos on games that actually have good fictional vehicle design.
On the L5 I believe you could load and unload the belt boxes from the inside of the turret and perhaps the straps are made of a metal of some kind. Still wouldn't explain why there isn't armor covering the ammo boxes though. As for the MG on the A8, i believe that the belt could be fed through the turret if you compressed it down enough, however it would make reloading unwieldy.
How powerful would the planned Japanese tanks in WW2 be if they ever went into production compared to the German tanks?
Some were planned to have some serious fire power and big guns.
Planned as the prototypes and limited producion or planed as the paper monsters?
The prototypes were actually pretty decent, even great.
Monsters were... Wastefull.
Many of them werent as good as the Panzer IV. Ithink the best of them came close to the Panther.
@@TheKingofbrooklin insn't the panther better in every way than the panzer iv?
@@TheKingofbrooklin
I'm talking about planned ones they were trying to create. Some of them were big with a powerful gun that was like 120mm or something I can't remember exactly.
@@rocket_sensha4337 The Japanese to the Panther.
Can’t believe you referenced the ADATS. God I loved that thing.
Do the Planetside 2 Tanks. You will love them
I actually think they could've put proper microreactors in the mechs, especially with 120 years to play, I think that downsizing nuclear power would not be too difficult, given that there are airlift-capable reactors (vSMR) being conceptualized already. Plus, those mechs need what? Some 1500kW of power? Not that difficult to cool off, really, the cold air all around them would be beneficial for that.
Also something that I think it's worth noting the A8 Tiger seems to have really high ground pressure
I still had a CRT when I was playing this game.
loved this game, especially the mode with the base hovering in the sky
Jumping out of an exploding titan and parachuting were the highlight moments of multiplayer in this game.
Having a turretless design isn't entirely bad. It reduces the weight and profile of the tank.
Turrets and all the parts associated with them add a lot of weight and forces the tank's design to be taller and more conspicuous than it otherwise would be.
You can do a lot with the saved weight that comes with forgoing a turret; say improve ammo capacity, extra armor, a bigger main gun, or just do nothing with the weight savings and enjoy the better mobility and fuel efficiency.
Because it's a hover tank the reduced weight is desirable because it means you don't need as beefy of a propulsion system for the same mobility, plus, the weight of a turret shifting around as it rotates and the recoil sending it in different directions would cause problems for a hover tank, lest the thing just rolls over and disables itself because it fired while the gunner and the driver weren't on the same page. If this hover tank had a turret, the chassis would have to be considerably wider to deal with those issues, which comes with its own issues (inability to fit in places, more weight, harder to transport, bigger target, etc).
In the case of a tracked tank, the reduced profile makes it easier to camouflage allowing for better ambushes.
As well it eases manufacturing and reduces the costs of manufacturing and maintaining the tank due to the reduction of sensitive moving parts.
Not to say that it doesn't have its downsides, they're terrible against a guerrilla opponent, but the improved protection of not having a turret and the logistics benefits of lower cost, easier maintenance, more simplistic construction, lighter weight and ease of transportation are all pretty significant things to take into account.
You could field more of them for the same cost and have an easier time getting them onto the field in the first place, against a conventional army that's huge.
Did you know that mechs actually duck down in 2142, you could still fire from that position.
The Nekopara tank LMAO
I remember that one time my friend and I were talking about Nekopara, and he mistakenly called it "Nekomata". It took me a while to explain, why it made me laugh so much
EA said that conventional bullets have better physicality for the combat versus energy weapons.
Judging by the sounds and muzzle flash, they're probably using a futuristic propellent of sorts (my guess is plasma?), except for the EU's classic smokeless cartridge revolver.
such a unique game..... I really hopes that DICE will make a new one :D
I wouldn't really count the crew section for the tanks. It would most likely be more than 1 person in the tank but for gameplay reasons reduced it down to one driver and a gunner like in BF3 & 4.
Other crew positions are modeled in 3 & 4, whereas only one position is modeled for both tanks in 2142.
This series of videos ruined my dreams about si-fi warfare, It's a bummer
Yea, maybe I should of mentioned that the bots on 2142 are......special....
My Brother: "Hey, I need a ride!"
Bot: "No." _Proceeds to drive off full speed_
My Brother: "ENCLAVE!!!!"
You are the next designer of the next Battlefield 2142
Despite all the negatives you mentioned, 12 year old me enjoyed the hell out of this game, my favorite BF game even to this day.
All in all a very solid video (as always), but I'd like to point something out.
You mentioned that you couldn't see any access ports on the L-5 Riesig, although it actually has one. Look from the underside between its legs, it is quite visible. Combined with the fact that the walkers can crouch down, I don't think entering the vehicle is much of an issue.
You also positively mentioned the Bogatyr's two optic sensors. Tho only the bottom one serves the pilot, while the top one serves the gunner. (the L-5 has the gunners optics mounted directly to the guns)
I’m newer to War Thunder (Xbox) and was wondering if you had any advice on the M4A3 105mm? Specifically the way to play it in realistic mode :)
Your turret traverse is bad and you have strong armor, so play it a bit like a casemate tank destroyer. Keep your gun in your frontal arc and swing your tank to face hostiles.
I just wanna say I've been really enjoying your videos a lot, I found when you did your war thunder vids and im glad you branched out and did other topics, it's really cool to see keep up the great work.
Spookston: Mentions the ADATs offhand
I C O O M M A P L E S Y R U P
Nice video on 2142, good to always see some fresh content
I love your way of explaining things in a lightly fun way, makes the video so much more fun and not boring :D
Also BF2142 has been my favourite game, used to play it a lot a decade ago thanks a lot for this vid!
I would like to see spookston designing a futuristic tank himself, that would be interesting!
Still waiting for Valkyria Chronicles vechicles
You should have covered the Titans, those are just atrocious from a design stand point. Four naval twin-gun turrets could have been a lot more useful if they are not pointing directly downward at the ground. Just build a bombing bay, does the same thing with a lot less maintenance to worry about.
I feel that the C&C mark 1 Wolverine is the most practical in terms of mechs since it’s almost the same size of a human and is used as a squad support vehicle
Gunna do Imperial Knights or Titans from 40k?
I like the Tiger's design. It just lacks a few more details on the turret bustle. Perhaps a longer turret. And more equipment sticking out, mainly optics and what not. Would have been cool. I wished you also talked about the APCS too.
You know what would give you a fun time? Analising Metal Slug vehicles
Now i wanna see Spookston do the Steel Battalion Heavy Armor game with the kinect.
Oh man. Great to see this game being played. Excellent video my dood.
The L5 mech's main guns, missiles and anti personnel gun are all practical in the game. The cockpit is enclosed, using cameras to create a digital display inside the cockpit protecting the driver, which is suitable for the setting. The L5 mech can also couch to reduce its profile, and would help the crew to bail out.
In all probability a downed L5 crew would wait for rescue, they probably have equipment to climb in and out like you would for a fighter jet bsck at base.
The A8 tank has reactive armour on its side panels, a non explosive kind. So it's practical. The ADS isn't a shield, it acts like one but for short durations.
Both L5 and A8 lack thermal imaging, smoke launches/decoys, but you could pretend that smoke is no longer used for concealment due to everything in the future being able to see through it, hence no thermals. In gameplay you never feel like a feature is lacking and the fact this tank has only 2 crew, the whole loading process is now automated, and the driver can also control the turrent is very advanced.
The size of the tank is deliberately large, its actually classified as a heavy tank, this implies a much more armoured MBT requirement, probably due to mechs and infantry weapons.
The plasma instead of gas operated weapons, and hover tech is just the fantasy aspect of the setting. The Japanese tank is an odd design, I pretend that a rotating turrent would sway the chassis causing instability, but the mobility of the hovering was worth it for traversing terrain.
It's easy to make up excuses for sci fi as long as there is a justification for it within the fictional lore, and because of that I think all the vehicles are fantastic.
I wish they'd re-make this game today. I loved it back in the day.
You should review Starcraft's vehicles. Like the Siege Tank, Goliath, etc.
planetary anihilation units next?
If it's what people decide on the poll
Finally a video on bf2142 glad it still gets vids on it
hey if you want to do a video on smaller mechs, try the ones in the los planet series. The game with the most mech variety are in Lost Planet 2. In that game, mechs also have a variety of guns. In addition, most of them they are operated by 1 man crew.
I feel like the "1 crew member in the tank" is purely just game mechanics
Since in Battlefield 4, the driver spot takes the roles of Gunner, Driver, AND loader while the 2nd only takes the TC...and even then, only the HMG up top
And the A7V "Heavy Tank" in BF1 takes only 5 people to fully crew, even though irl it needed easily quadruple that (they were also used as makeshift APCs, allowing infantry to dismount flamethrowers from off the tank to use in combat)
But still, great vid
I kind of want to see you do a video on metal slug vehicles, since most are absolutely ridiculous, over-gunned, and very tiny. In a way, they're almost the opposite to most fictional tanks, though far from realistic.
Visual sensors cannot actually be miniaturized much more with technology because it's based on light collection of a sensor. Currently webcams on laptops are about as small as they can practically get while maintaining performance. Especially for military vehicles you'd want a larger visual sensor to aquire more detail and color depth. This as well as lensing so you can zoom without having to deal with quality loss of digital zoom
The Tiger tank, boggling repair crew since WWII.
Battlefield 2142 best far future setting
I mean, 2142 was all about the rule of cool, and as far as that goes, they nailed it. lol I also think the lack of coax was a bit heavy-handed, but I understand the balance issues tanks had in BF2, where a good tank driver could basically own the battlefield. I played both games pretty religiously back in high school, so I like to think I understand them pretty well, but it's been a long time.
2142 was by far my favorite Battlefield game, so I'm happy to see it still getting some love. The titan game mode was such a unique feature and I'm sad that it hasn't been done since. As well, the balance felt a lot better than BF2. Tanks in 2142 are almost exclusively anti-materiel, while walkers are anti-personnel and anti-air. Air power was anti-everything, but also proportionately difficult to use and very vulnerable. Infantry was given the tools to take out any target that showed up. Every vehicle had counters, and almost every situation was survivable if you knew what you were doing.