Piers Morgan Shocked When I Told Him the Truth About China!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- I joined the Piers Morgan Uncensored show this week to discuss China and the potential of TikTok in the US. Piers Morgan brought in a guest who brought up some common misconceptions about China, but there is a lot more nuance needed to understand China.
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That filth propagandist knows exactly what going on! He’s part of the US HYPOCRISY!!
Tobias is digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. LOL
In UK, you can be thrown in jail for criticizing the Royal family. It is life imprisonment if you merely utter a suggestion of abolishing the monarchy.
You could have pushed back more on the level of hypocrisy being displayed by the British MP.
Elwood is a impotent savage!!
Not a good idea to argue with the pinhead. If you don't refute each and every point of their nonsense, it looks like you agree with them.
The levels of hypocrisy and ignorance from Elwood are thru the roof.
👍👍👍👍
i rather trust Chine first
International rules based order is a veiled way of saying neo-colonialism
If the US wanted to track anyone they can via twitter, facebook, google, iOS...so the sheer hypocrisy is just unthinkable!
yes this Elwood guy show how ignorance he is to the world
I really want to laugh out loud when the westerners mention international rules based order. Rules which are made to ensure the continued dominance of western power rather than fair competition!
If you ask them what are the rules, they will give you a blank face, because there isn't anything written down or agreed upon.
there is a reason why 5G concerns are held by britain, canada, u.s., australia and new zealand..."R"
I'd have to watch again to be sure but it sounded like he might have slipped up at one point and said international law instead of rules based order. International law does exist and is written down, but the international rules based order just refers to the US making things up as it goes and ordering everyone around.
Me, too..what is international rules based order? LOLS..
He meant that the American Law = International Law, lol
300 people were arrested for soc media posts in Russia last year.
1400 in the UK.
😂 r u serious? Noooooooo way😂
@@chester1234ification For sure, for example, I was never banned on Chinese social media for venting but I was banned on Twitter for supporting Trump until Musk took over Twitter and I appealed, then I got unbanned.
Even on Instagram. Your comment can get you banned too.
@@themeowzers93 I heard that you have first amendment for that ?🤔
@@chester1234ificationhe is totally true. And the number keep rising. The UK is becoming a woke distopia.
Now look at Canada!
it always amazed me how a bunch of experts have never been to China, yet refuse to acknowledge they are misinformed and biased
I am not gonna lie I hate American propaganda about China.
Join the club!!
As a South African, I do too. Whenever the US does anything here, we end up in deebt. When China comes, we have new factories, roads and hospitals, and not as much money is owed to them.
Same
These 2 clowns, left and center, don’t even realize that they live in inverted totalitarianism. “Inverted totalitarianism, unlike classical totalitarianism, does not revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader. It finds expression in the anonymity of the Corporate State. It purports to cherish democracy, patriotism, and the Constitution while manipulating internal levers.”
― Chris Hedges , Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle
And the UK and Canada too. They are lapdogs of the US and repeat everything that their master says. Not only that, but they insist that the so-called rule-based order which has American interest first is the only order for other countries to follow. How arrogant and foolish!
I was laughing into tears for how they're so confident about their stupidity and ignorance. The Western media definitely makes a great contribution to shaping their stupidity, bigotry, ignorance, and prejudice. 😂😂😂
Western governments have gone crazy. Bankers and stock traders have taken control of the levers of power. They are parasites eating up the wealth of the societies they govern. They ship good paying jobs overseas with no regard for the workers or the fabric of communities or society as whole. They let infrastructure crumble and defund schools. They turned prisons into a giant industrial complex that makes it's money incarcerating the poor and powerless that they created through their greed. They have no patriotism or love of country. These are the people who start wars in their bid for world dominance so they can steal and plunder the riches of all countries and civilizations. Thank God China, India, and Russia have grown rich and strong enough to offer some kind of alternative future to the one these sociopaths would like to curse us with.
My advice is that don’t point out their ignorance and let them be stupider and stupider so that we can continue to have this unending real life ‘comedies’ for years to come.
@@sootoongkok9813 sadly this comedy is also going to directly send us to hell…so we gotta be on guard😅😅
They have been "brainwashed" without even knowing it😢
Agree completely
I am Chinese, and I am proud to be Chinese. China is the best in all aspects. I have been to a lot of countries and I came out with this conclusion.
LoL. Hahahaha. Fake news.
@@XavierHunsdove-ec7hxit not fake, china is great
@miguel823800🙄suuuure you are!(hey look at me I'm Chinese!)
Most people love their land of berth. I traveled a bit and I loved most of the places I went. But I still love my New Zealand the most. Although I would absolutely love to travel through Asian and especially China. You have such amazing culture and traditions.
Once the people can vote & decide their countries direction & leaders, it will be close to your opinion. Chinese people are wonderful, I'm sure I've seen more of China than you. The government needs to change
Greetings Cyrus!
I appreciate your sincerity and calmness in dealing with these types of "Western people" who are upset because they are unable to face the fact that their society is failure because of its wrong policy throughout the history.
PS. Unfortunately, I'm also part of it.
I shake my head each time some one from the US, UK or Canada mentions the need for rule based international order. They don’t even blink when telling a lie straight in your face.
And notice that it isn't international law they are talking about
I'm in Canada and the only rules based order we know is that US rules give Canadian government the orders.
@@tedtoews9889 Same everywhere.
The only rules they work on, is how to make a dysfunctional world. With digital slaves, and a very small selfappointed elite, above the law.
As always.
Agree, you are telling the truth. 👍👍👍
Exactly, what are those rules or order? Whose rules or order?
There is no such thing as "rules based order.". There's international law, and one country is famous for breaking it all the time. Hint, it is not China.
Hint China has been illegally occupying Aksai Chin since 1962 & has more than 100k soldiers deployed on the Indian border when they tried to transgress across the LAC.
China has been continuously transgressing into Arunachal Pradesh.
China has built island(s) in the middle of the South China Sea.
China has border disputes with every single one of its neighbours. You are either stupid or unaware. I hope it’s the latter. Don’t try countering this with whataboutery as well.
Which country is it? Let me guess, it’s not that difficult to guess, it starts with U?
Every country has its own set of international laws, and can change them whenever it likes. "International law" doesn't mean "laws that apply to all countries", it simply refers to the sections of a country's laws that govern the way it interacts with other countries, as decided by its legislature. Laws are just the rules decided upon by the people with the power to do so. Those people can always change what those rules are, you shouldn't elevate them above what they are.
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@@annoloki International law that is mentioned in a global setting refers to laws set and agreed by all countries and originates from global institutions that all countries are part of such as the United Nations. It has no reference to each countries' interpretation of International laws. An example is that International law does not allow for unilateral sanctions against another country but the US does it anyways because of their rules based order.
Thank you Cyrus for telling the truth and being fair 👍👍👍🙏
Thank you for being on the show and speaking of the reality of China. It is hardly to believe those who are shitting about China have really ever put their feet on the soil of this country and learn about it themselves. If they haven't done it, where do they get the courage to bullshit and have such a big bias.
As if the US Government isn’t accessing data of the people planetwide. 😂
They don't use that data to threaten people who don't like the president lmao
I well trust Chinese Government before any other government on the planet.
Well it's OK when we do it b/c we're the good guys 🤡😉
They make the rules so it's okay if they spy on people because they write the "rule based order" and they are exempt from following it.
@@topherno yes the good cloud.......!!!!!!
If TikTok was American then everyone would be lauding it as a huge success.
Yup, the double standards is palpable.
Absolutely true. The fact is that it's not American company, isn't that the reason why all these politicians are trying to ban it?
US government is trying to force Tiktok to sell the company to US companies. What does this tell the world?
Yep and who cAres that they would work for CIA like Twitter and Facebook🤣
Too true comrade Nook
Love your work Mr. Janssen. Love your ability to stay calm and keep your gentleman demeanor even under a pressure debate. Please keep doing what you’re doing.👍👍👍
US banned Huawei … so it can have exclusive rights on monitoring your device and data 😂
The other guy, is like a total CIA bot. Everything is a threat and we need to DEAL with it.
"Yea, but he is OUR BOT." - western plutocrats.
MI6 Bot. But yeah.
Yep, classic Anglo imperialist psycho.
Yeah. They're propagandists, including their viewers. They act like their own domestic government and companies aren't messing with their data or tracking them at all. I mean wasn't it British protesters that were protesting their new "king" and got arrested? Or how about that one person who wore a religious shirt and got arrested? These guys need to stop acting like western countries are a beacon of freedom and fairness.
He’s a government employee what do u expect.
It's sad how ignorant these Westerners are about what is actually going on in China or Russia. Amazing.
adult little boys with fear as their drive
Yes.
Not ignorant but malicious. They KNOW the truth but choose to spread LIES.
Yep, Chinese citizens welded themsleves into their own homes during every Covid flare up. Stfu.
@@sea2959; Yes they are fearful of any change in the international Western dominance of things and it is also a way used time and again to control and manipulate the public on a purely emotional level.
Love Cyrus's facial expressions ，love how Cyrus let them talk talk talk without cutting in.
You did a very great job. You replied with respect and in a calm manner and most importantly with reasoning and evidence. thank you
Can we trust the Americans? Whose rules are the rules based international order refer to? Definitely the US rules.
I lived jn a former british protectorate. Our history is basically the brits trying to "civilized" us and how we are lazy lots because our people don't want to be work under them lmao
Rules based order = US national laws eg. the latest Taiwan Policy Act of 2022 Act.😔😔😔. Rules base order should be based on UN Charter which is agreed upon by all member countries in the world.
...only trouble is: US are not held by any rules - & they will change the rules made by them according to "expediency." For example - whose rules of democracy are they following when they bombed Iraq, and killed civilians in Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Bikini Islands, etc.?
@@thomaschan8205 rule based order USA crap
No, Ed Snowden made that absolutely clear
I wouldn't trust the two clowns on the left, period.
Meaning both
@Deljohn V. Lumongsod Do you have a problem understanding where's your left?
I was thinking same thing.
Yep me neither!!
CHINA is a criminal state. Even though i hate WEST equally and more. China is run by globalist bankers. WUHAN lab is still running. case closed.
Politicians make false statements all the time and where is their accountability?
Yet we must be accountable.
Only things they care is what else to criticise about China
This type of MP is the main reason I moved overseas. He is totally ignorant of the subject he is Chair of and has obviously made no attempt whatsoever to educate himself on the matter. Everything he accuses China of, is done by the UK Gov., to a greater degree.
Well done, as always, Cyrus.
He was funded by Soros so what's the difference between the Chair of whatever.
I can assure you that he was not made a Minister because of his knowledge and so he has never found the need to continuously develop his knowledge on any subject. That goes for all of them.
He is a minister only because he knows the "right people" or he is from the "right blood line"
Apparently that Tobias fellow only read Western Mainstream Media and believed wholesale what they churned out, hook, line and sinker. He is there just to be their echo-chamber. Unbelievable bigotry.
@@geraldgeaf1292 He knows how to kiss arse.
He is working not for the interests of UK but for the governmwnt across the pond. Like you have said, every ill he claimed of China are being carried by the UK and US governments, so it is kettle calling the pots black.
I love the way, you have highlighted how things work in China. Thanks for that.
We lie
We stole
We cheat
- Former CIA director, Mike Pompeo
Mike Pompeo wants to be the next president. Holding up his right hand on the bible, ' we lied, we stole we cheated, we murdered. That should go down well.
Taken out of context
No doubt that United State do lie,do stole and do cheat.
NO, IT IS NOT. They also murder their own people Hell, they even assassinate their own president, one who was unbelievably popular because he would not go along with forever wars so the MIC could keep the blood money flowing to the Political class. @@hengchen6688
@@hengchen6688OMG - that's all the West does is lie steal & exploit, cheat, break any signed treaties & agreements they negotiated with who thought in good faith, whenever they want!!
Wake up buddy😮
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The interviewer was sooo afraid to be politically incorrect 🤣
This is western freedom of speech😂
Good point lol.
When was he trying to be politically correct
didn't see that, and if I'm correct Pierce Morgan is famous for not adhering to those
As an American, I am in pain, how can you live in peace, we have to bring you war, because the world operates according to our rules, we are the god of the world, everyone must follow our rules, otherwise any disobedient Countries are our potential enemies, we must find a way to make them go to war
@@joannesmith1175 to be political correct these days is not only to defend black lives matter and lgbt but also to unrelenting demonize china
The same thing that we accuse tik tok of doing Facebook does it much better!!!
I grew up in a BRITISH COLONY ANC AT THE AGE OF 80 I am learning by reading independent version of colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Just in TIME TO EDUCATE MY GRAND GRAND FAMILY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT OF VOTE ❤❤❤
As a Chinese, I would say we can't control what others are saying or their prejudice against China, we will still focus on our stuff, keep moving and try our best to make a better life for the public. we were bullied heavily before, so we know how important for the human to live peacefully and harmoniously, which is good for everyone and every country existing in the same planet. Please don't stay in your box to think and give opinions for others who you never have a conversation with.
Been to China THREE times, son teaches English, IT'S A HELL HOLE.. PERIOD.. Last time was really, really BAD, just before covid lockdown.. NO sewage systems, NO baths-just showers, STINK coming from shower drains EVERYWHERE, they sell air fresheners everywhere that you put in the shower drains because of the smells.. Leave the big cities and you enter America in 1860, except for a single electric wire into the house.. Well pumps in the kitchens, fields fertilized with human waste.. The smells are really bad.. This is HIS girlfriends parents house 20 miles outside a large city.. Communal bathroom for the town, EVERYBODY showers and uses the bathroom there TOGETHER.. Male and Female..LOL..LOL.. You take a dump and put the paper into a bin in the center of the bathroom, imagine the smell.. The food is dangerous.. First thing when you wake up is boil your daily water in a 3 gallon ceramic bowl and you use that to do anything that goes inside you or touches your lips.. EVERYBODY does this, RICH AND POOR.. Crazy prostitution houses on every block in the cities, THAT SURPRISED ME.. No signs for them, BUT, EVERYBODY knows where they are and what they are for...LOL..I guess the kickbacks are tremendous.. Small 3-wheeled diesel putt-putts are EVERYWHERE spewing black smoke.. The sky often becomes ORANGE because of the pollution.. Get sick, you get the 12 pills, FOR EVERYTHING.. Some kind of herbs or something.. Need REAL CARE, you have to go to the western hospital in Beijing.. OTHERWISE, you DIE.. Warlords rule in a lot of the country, especially the western areas.. They LOVE KARAOKE, they have entire buildings of 12 stories devoted to it, with different types of music on each floor..
You are so right Ivy Liu, we need to stand tall, no more bullying. Greetings from New Zealand.
顶你❤❤❤
@ Liu Ivy 😂😂😂, too bad you are not in a Zhao family
Great opening liner Lvy. Actually most Asians have this mindset. Do what we can do, ignore what others have against us, usually unfounded and baseless allegations, but single-side perceptions or worse, hearsays. That’s no way gonna improve our lives.
I’m from Singapore, and Singaporeans are living a peaceful life in a relatively crime free and beautiful environment. I’ve got comments from ignorant westerns saying Singapore is having harsh laws and fine it’s citizens freely. The problem is, westerners don’t seem to understand that we don’t like crimes, or tolerate that, hence we avoid getting into situations that will be on the wrong side of the law. How would anyone get punished one way or another, when we embrace the laws to make our country crime free? Then they came up with bs like Singaporeans can’t own guns or do drugs freely. God, why do we want firearms to seep into our social system, where one can live in fear, walk into the streets unbeknownst the person next to you may be a threat to your own life, and they the same thinking about you? Mistrust and stuffs, rather than protection. And drugs, a huge social ill, and they expect to want us to follow the west into the doldrums of zombieland? What for? The people will be an economic and social burden, stressing on the medical capacity of any country.
So let’s just do as you’ve mentioned. Let them say all they like, we will just enjoy our peace and environment. Let them concoct their own impressions and dwell in their dark thoughts while we all will keep on progressing
Good example of why we can not trust any politicians.
Yes. For example, the Hong Kong people don't trust Chinese politicians.
elwood is what being a sore loser looks and sounds like. that cant take that china has eclipsed his western empire so they resort to baseless bsing and name calling. these ignorant politicians are the same as there ancestors which participated in 2 world wars already. how civilized are they really?
When a Yankee politician speaks. just laugh at the fool thrash .
100%
@@waichong9389
US/EU Politician*
The Chinese system works however it wants to work. It is responsive to people's complaints it looks like. Who does control all these mid level government workers that have to respond to complaints?
Thank you Cyrus from Singapore.
I. Am Irish I worked with Chinese people for 20 years they changed my life best
People ❤. I know
😊
That’s why Irish move on!
U cannot work with China and not love them. The insane profit margins d west created is not their style. No Chinese CEO is on $200million a year
Your kind of attitude is the reason Ireland is a leading economy in the EU with an extremely high standard of living , able to work with both sides. ☘️
I'm glad Cyrus pointed out that Chinese citizens are required to use their ID on the internet, and that there is less anonymity. It is basically exactly what that MP wanted, but it seems like that MP had no idea. These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China.
That MP says that Chinese companies are required by law to abide to the Chinese government's requests, completely unaware that the US and UK and other allied nations have the exact same law.
"These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China."
What... British MP's do not run Britain, they follow orders from Washington like the rest of Europe's pretend Govts. They even have people confused into thinking the USA and Europe are the same thing and we call it "The West" so people cant tell the difference.
more such guys making wrong policies, the better, isn't it?
Having the ability to publish what could be controversial opinions anonymously was used by the founders of America. Certainly the argument that linking an ID to an account eliminates nefarious activities but it more importantly can be used by the government to censor speech. I seriously doubt you folks here would be so emboldened with your posting if UA-cam decided to verify your accounts with an ID.
@@TomNook. Yeah. I wonder whether MP and the general public in UK or US know squat about their own laws that require submission of data to their government. 😂. When they find out that their privacy is being invaded by their own government, they blame China for it 😂.
Americans and British accusing the Chinese of spying on their own citizens. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Western politicians, social media and westerners: do know what is ‘thief calls to catch thief” SHAME ON YOU who does the most to the world what you are worrying now!!!😂😢😮
Tobias Ellwood, thanks for your words, I can now reconstruct how people like you talked to Africans and Indians and Chinese. When you use your full of contempt and intense talk, one can get scared indeed of the same superiority which was used in your old good colonial times. Your inflated ego and cheap sale of corrupted reality which you insinuate is democracy seem really pitiful and grotesque.
Only yesterday I was telling Alex from Reporterfy Media that you guys were becoming the most trusted source for geopolitical analysis on China.
Point proven. 👏
That's because of Cyrus' objectivity. He is not afraid to point out the good and the bad for China. No country is perfect.
Cyrus barely said anything other than CPC restricting to 45mins under 18!
Basically he was agreeing with the hawk that China is that horrible authoritarian regime that ban and arrest people at will!!!
Falun Gong media is still the most "trusted"
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Appreciate that mate!
UK and USA has just be scared becauss they know what they do in past, and think everyone is like then. That's the source of all that scar.
I’m all for any and all restrictions on TikTok (and all social media platforms). Especially, now, when there’s this challenge that’s recently been spreading, around TikTok, provoking people to bring a knife / blade, to school (at least, here, in Finland); and someone actually brought a knife to preschool, and threatened to ”kill everyone”; clearly inspired, by this challenge. 😤
❤️ Cyrus - you are a wonderful spokesman for educating the world the TRUTH about China 🇨🇳 There is so much distrust right now, and I feel you truly helped. Well done 👍
will keep working hard
In the West & the US, If they wanted to arrest anyone, they simply says that person is at risk to their national security. Edward Snowden from the US and Julian Assange from Australia are the classic example of that.
And Scott Ritter when he spoke out about Iraq
In China you are disappeared for passing by a "white paper protest" as they track your phone and watch every move on cam.
@@richardsharpe4884 Only a handful !! At least in a transparent society, you know that.
@@davethewanderer4520there is no society is transparent. all informations we get are filtered by the main social media and the government. we are seemed can give our own opinions when ever we can. but these opinions depend on those informations we got from those main social medias. by this way, they guide the population' s speech, and made our believe that we have the "Freedom of speech".
@@zhengwang5331 Sure every source of information are biased in one way, in a TRANSPARENT society, there are freedom to read from MANY different sources, one can then evaluate the facts, not just one FULLY CONTROLLED channel.
Of course, if you think a single source of information is reliable, then you believe what you want to believe, or what they want you to believe, no other options.
It is your choice, assuming you are real person who is genuine wanting to be better informed.
In CCP China, no one knows what is happening for sure, there lies the lies.
Well done for your consistency!!
I trust the Chinese implicitly. I have a stent in my heart placed there by a very clever Chinese doctor. I also have a Chinese dentist who is exemplary.
They only gave you like 10% of the time to get your point across, and you STILL nailed it. Great job!
China has won the world. USA and UK need to humble themselves
Yeah! I really wish I had more time...I was the least experienced of the three, first time on a big TV show like this, next time I'll be a bit more aggressive
@@CyrusJanssen unfortunately people who watches TV want drama and entertainment not logic and common sence, keep the calm status you doing great
@@CyrusJanssen --- Been living in China too long? You gave up being aggressive....
@@CyrusJanssen Yes, Cyrus you should be, next time.
Plus, if you truly want to stand out and up in what you believe in, then be prepared to always drive home your point to them by subtly and even sometimes aggressively showing them a mirror image of the same things they accuse other powerful nations of doing in their own systems and policies.
That's exactly the way Russell Brand handles these hypocrites.
We can't have a sane, respectful and just world unless people like you with a strong voice speak the truth in the right way to these people.
You didn't do badly, though. But I'm sure next time you'd better.
A sincere round of applause to you Cyrus. The world needs more voice and clear minds like yours, it surely would benefit all of us if everybody, particularly in the west can see things clearly.Thank you.
Appreciate the support
I am from India. I would rather have the government monitoring my social media information than a scammer in Mumbai or Kolkata.
It's a clash of civilisations. As an Asian parent, I believe in a certain amount of control over the time children should spend on TV & social media.
2 british colonialists talking about trust. the irony. lmao.
Me toooooooooooooooo
And how “totalitarian” China is
2 british offsprings of opium trafficker. talking about the benefits of opium consumption
So true!!!
You hit the nail on the head!!!
@0.50-1:23: I was laughing when Piece Morgan said, Tik Tok was controlled by China state. If it were so what?
Look at Utube, Twitter, Facebook are not controlled by US state? CIA isn't involved in controlling the narratives?
Comments they don't like are shadow banned. It's happened to me and others I know so many times.
This is the level of hypocrisy and ignorance they have in the west!!
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I admire your calm demeanor and patience. The media narrative is unbearable. Meanwhile China is taking the high road.
And they will continue to succeed, while leaving their haters behind. Even Piers Morgan was full of it
I remember in 2018, I posted a suggestion thru Chinese gov website, to get it done, I had to fill in the real name and phone number as required. I thought it would probably get ignored, turned out a month ish later, I got a phone call which I thought it was a scam, instead, the guy identified himself as a gov employee who was to feedback what I suggested as the standard procedure. He expressed what I suggested was hard to achieve at the moment, explained some of the difficulties they were facing, confliction to the law, regulations, and the civil development requirements, which never crossed my mind to consider them in. There are always something you don’t know, which applies to an average citizen like me, not to mention a foreigner who never step a foot onto China’s soil.
its weird right when Big country like china being reported by Media so BS?
My media in my country in SEA getting references from western media so it's sometimes difficult to get true and neutral international news.
Cause in a Western democracy setting, citizens have the power to change the leaders but they forgotten that you can hardly change the policies only empty and mostly outrageous election campaign promises. China's system is not just one dictator as West loves to portray but a rather a huge committee overseeing, discussing and evaluating options. Hard to explain to Americans who literally accepts the headlines as gospel truth without fact checking. And even lies after lies are in the open, they still adore those lying hypocrites in office!
Many westerners still failed to recognise the difference of the cultures. They put all kind of blames on the government but they did not bother to find out was that what the people wanted or the people actually the ones that pushed for it to happen.
@@KelvinLKY Western is an ego centric culture where everything revolves around Me, Me and Me which basically means I do want I want = freedom and human rights. However their equation is flawed and doesn't take into account the majority's wishes which is funny when at the same breath they talk about democracy which equates to majority wins. Yet they allow the minority (Woke LBGTQ) to enforce on the majority sex change on kids. West will even support known terrorists who fight against a common enemy yet at the same breath scream about terrorists and the need to invade Sovereign countries and change the government. The meaning of Hypocrisy has been totally eradicated from the English language and dictionary
UA-cam censorship is getting crazy. That's American kind of freedom of speech.
These hypocrites makes me sick 😫
Thanks again Cyrus. We need more people like you, who dare to speak the truth about China. 💪🇨🇳❤️
No not at all, China is not a security threat to UK or US nor is TikTok a security threat to anyone. TikTok is just a public media to serve the public.Tobias and the host Morgan are obviously very highly biased and prejudiced westerners who have already made up their mind that China or Russia are evil and untrustworthy.And therefore have to be put down at all costs. It's very sad indeed both of them have not shed their fear of the "yellow peril" and " defend the British Empire" at all cost. Such mentality are very dangerous and insiduos for forging mutual understanding.
Tiktok in US, the data servers are in Virginia, managed by Americans.
Each country has their own cultures. Rules and laws. It ain't one size fits all approach. Each country should establish their own Tiktok version based on their rules and laws. The so called "threat" are based on hypertheorical narratives but no factual evidences present to back up the claim of threat.
Nope the TikTok in USA under US laws are complete cancer
Do you work for the Defense Of Department of the United States? What's your clearance level to sensitive information, or simple put where are you on the "NEED TO KNOW" totem pole?
ok now America is defending their culture??? but promoting same sex marriage to other countries is ok???
@@804MRMAN he seems to have enough clearance to know that the balloon scare was a setup, the Ukrainians are being thrown under the bus to protect the US from fallout on the pipeline blowout and more.
How deep in the hole are you?
USA be like: only we have the right to steal everything...
The irony of Elwood saying the state should not impose itself and control the message amd destroy criticism and arrest people who say things against the state, when we have just done the exact same thing over people rightfully peacefully dissenting over Israel and our complicity with that regime. At least China does what they do for the good of the country, we do what we do for the good of another country entirely. Israel, Ukraine, everyone is favoured except for our own!
Edit: also China is not a Totalitarian state.
Congratulations, Cyrus, the interview is a result of your long time effort in keeping speech impartial, which is rare in nowadays.
Thank you!
Cyrus, you are a great bridge between US and China. You have been trying to build understanding, peace and respect between these two countries. We all love you!
I love that my students in China, all who come from fairly well-to-do families, are not allowed to use phones in school. They do not carry smartphones with them, and I have never seen a student with one. It makes a massive difference to how they are as people. There is a connectedness, respectfulness, immediacy and goodness to them that I have retrospectively found to have eroded in Korea, where I taught for twenty years. This is not to say that the students I taught in Korea were rude or anything of that nature. They were not; they were good people. But there is something tangible that the absence of social media access brings to a classroom and a school. I would summarize by saying the absence of smartphones results in a greater sense of togetherness, and an ability to hold someone's gaze and listen to them directly. In a word: presence. Finally, I don't use my own phone that much either after being tech-starved for a week last year on Kiritimati in the middle of the Pacific. But I do deflect occasionally from making stuff and doing research on my laptop to watch a UA-cam video or two and give a rare comment or two, as here.
This guy piers Morgan in his mind. He’s thinking reasoning as in eighteen century!!! He’s still dreaming of the Britain empire. The game is over!!
Cyrus, you presented facts in a classy manner -calm and firm and that poor chair of defence is still so convinced that Tiny Britain has a YUGE tool. I have to say that ignorance and arrogance is the worst combo.
Terrible combo for sure!
@@CyrusJanssen It's their human rights to insist on being stubborn and stupid.
Congratulations Cyrus, on being invited to the show! Your presence helps in spreading the truth. You did a good job and I hope you get to be invited to more shows. 👏
Appreciate it! It was a big honor
think Cyrus was invited to be put down ...
but he didn't back down ...
tho, all had fallen onto deaf ears ...
tobias was constantly shaking his head ... pre-conceived gestures,
from pre-notions ...
a chair of defense committee :-/
@@sang-suangam9772yes, it says a lot about the ignorance there sadly 😢
Again, I’m impressed with the ignorance level the Westerners and US had. Now is year 2024😊
they are so surpised to hear everything about China and still decide to criticize China. 😂
Wow Cyrus, you schooled these two idiots
We've reached a sorry state in the UK when people like Ellwood can blatantly misrepresent facts. This isn't an exhaustive list from what I've gathered from this clip but here goes:
i. The UK found NO security threats in Huawei [see Vince Cable's admission] - it was only after BoJo went to Australia as Foreign Minister that he changed his tune after being leaned on by the Baldie [Aussie Defence Minister?] on behalf of the US.
ii. What Rules Based Order is TE referring to? Is there a published (& universally accepted) set? The Rules which should be observed are those voted in by the UN or other authorities like the WTO.
Looks like TE hasn't learnt from his drubbing by George Galloway in their recent Oxford debate.
The bottom line is China can do without the UK - the question is why are we so intent on digging a deeper hole for ourselves by siding with a fading bully instead of taking the morally & ethically correct course of steering a middle course that is right for Britain?
Well said
Excellent couldn’t have said it any better 👍🏼
"China can do without UK" - then de-couple. Britain future is best served within an alliance with like minded nations with whom we share common goals and values. On our own we are very much a small country that China will push around. We saw that in the Comments Xi made to Justin Trudeau. CCP talk down and insults a middle ranking western power - and the CCP rejoices!
Excellent response.
@@Andy-P You've got it backwards - it's Britain that wants to de-couple. What is your main 'common goal & value'?
Since when has China pushed the UK around?
American propaganda is so good, that Americans themselves are the first ones to believe it all 😂...
At least in the old communist world the population knew they were being propagandised. In the West most are too naive to even see it 🙄
I think the west need more people like Tobias to run the countries, definitely for the betterment of the east. 😂 got me when he said “I will definitely not learn from China…” I root for more Tobias!
I don’t understand why western or British people think they have the authority to tell Chinese government how they should regulate their own people and country. Fix your country issues and stop meddling in other countries business.
I certainly trust more someone who actually lived in China then what non-friends of China are saying.
Spot on! As a person living in China I am amazed at the amount of paranoia the west is suddenly having towards China, they must focus on the decline, economically, socially etc...
why dont you move to hyena ? what are you waiting on ?
Relax and enjoy the Western shows: let it be & let it go; they know the words but don’t understand the outside world; they know the technology but don’t understand the mechanism; they win their games but don’t win other people’s hearts
@miroceperkovic6201, I love you.
I'm from Hong Kong and I will never forget what the Chinese gov't did to us
that ellwood guy almost had a heartattack when morgan merely suggested that maybe something the 'evil' ccp does is good and worth learning.
People like Ellwood have literally zero solutions to modern problems. They just like to blow hot air and blame a foreign boogie man.
hahah that was my fav part....what the clip again and see my massive smile
i thought he was going to cry! 😂
😂😂...
and morgan almost had to backtrack all the way out of the studio just goes to show you how much freedom of speech they really have in the media. imagine the nerve to say anything positive about the evil commies.
Do you think a kitchen knife is a threat?
You see, China “could” do a lot of things with TikTok, it doesn’t mean it has or will.
Remember the famous phrase the super man has said to the US general? “You cant control me, you never will. That doesn’t make me your enemy.”
I'm not familiar with the super man phrase. This is the first time I learn of it. Nonetheless, it's the perfect response. I hope I do remember it. “You cant control me, you never will. That doesn’t make me your enemy.”
Here is an MP supposedly international and educated yet spouting this rubbish about a rules based order. Even if there was one the UK throughout history has repeatedly broken diplomatic conventions ignored laws and agreements when convenient and is only jealous of it's bigger brother USA who is able to do it with far more abandon that itself. Staggering hubris and hypocrisy.
Man, Cyrus I gotta give you props for keeping a straight face while listening to this BS from Tobias.
I am flipping out here when he dares to almost be in denial of China doing good by actually helping the youth and limiting their time on SM.
It was hard...especially that opening dialogue from Tobias, made me want to roll my eyes backward
cyrus is so cool headed. i wish i had his cool temper !
i don’t mind if these western governments don’t want to learn from china for options to solve common problems. but i do have an issue with them when they try to prevent other countries from learning from china’s experience and force them to take their less effective solutions that haven’t worked for the past several decades.
@Cyrus Janssen Tobias sounds like someone from the US republican party.
@Cyrus Janssen he was one of Boris Johnson ,s biggest supporters which explains a lot
I admired Cyrus's calmness during this exchange. The chinese government's position during western attacks: Stay calm. I suggest all pro china people should do the same. Ignore the noise and stay calm. If China avoid conflict, time is on the side of China's rise.
It's shocking to see the west being scared of what they have been doing to others for centuries, amazing grace 😭😭
The hypocrisy is baffling to me
😂😂😂
Lol
🤣🤣🤣💗💗
So we’ve gone from a ‘free world’ to a ‘rules based order’ 😂
Whole lot of protection in MSM. The hypocrisy is glowing Red in legendary mode (makes a baboon's gluteus maximus look pale.)
😂😂😂
The other two think that they know China very well, actually they DONT. It may be a good thing that let them think that they are more superior in doing their things and keep living in a box they made for themselves.
Usually when people say or claim they know China, it is always the opposite. How can really one know other cultures/social behavior if they never been to China or live long enough there....
They think they come there as tourists and know it all after making a 30 minute movie😂
@@hardshell9236 exactly, that’s what they always did
Please don't misunderstand them. They don't care to know China, they're talking to a domestic audience to prepare that audience for hostility towards China.
you shouldve brought up the FBIs manipulation of twitter
Thank you Cyrus, I always watch your programmes. You shed a lot of light on things which I never knewabout China. Keep up your good work ❤
Such things happens when you understand that all kids in the neighbourhood are smarter than you and also getting atronger and soon you won't be strongest (and richiest) kid in the 'hood.
I am a Filipino many Filipinos are divided between China, but one thing that I personally learn about. Never believe on western news especially most of them exaggerated the story to support on their political idea. As a Filipino I've constantly encountered many harsh news against our nations in general. Especially during the past couple of years when we have a very controversial leader I've say this, many people in South America even in the US itself has drug related incident. Murder, shooting all of it or most of it are link with Drugs. The problem of South American countries especially in criminality is very common past years before President Duterte became the leader. Now we don't have same problem when it comes to drugs and criminality. The crime went down but the Western media only talks about the lives of drug suspects but they ignore the impact of the war against Drugs positively to the community. Add to that before in the Philippines Streets especially during night is dangerous now no one is saying that streets are dangerous in our country. The thing I learned is western media exaggerate stories and never told the whole story in general. Even if China and the Philippines my country has territorial dispute I never generally say that they are just pure evil.. I'm not retarded to believe what I heard in the news. I have a tendency that actually search what I heard to the news to another sources that has complet story of the news to avoid the brainwashed.
Well said. If you want to know China better, go to China at least one in your lifetime, it will open up your eye and mind, we Chinese are not afraid to be criticized, but the words have to be fair.
Pres. Duterte was also the reason why I eventually had to see the bigger picture of geopolitics and stop hating China so incessantly. The fact that Barack Obama and the US government sanctioned us, our so-called "closest ally" proves that they have no real intention of helping us out on improving our country's situation since it collides with the interests of the privileged view both here and the US.
In fact, the territorial disputes between China and neighboring countries are all instigated by Western countries led by the United States.
Believe whatever you want to at your own peril.
Totally agreed with you. The USA just want to make and keep Phillipines like in the pre War and post War time as it it. Their Rich men playground. 😞
2:20 when a western "analyst" says international rules based order, it means what the west would like to impose on the rest of the world based order.
The international rules-based order that they can overrule.
International rules based order really needs more memes.
i like how that guy on the left practically agree social media is bad for kids, but then proceed to to explain since the chinese government is doing something about it, then its bad, cuz chinese government is bad. So a bad guy is trying to fix a social problem, therefore its bad. these debates are pointless. clearly the guy on the right is the one whos using social media in china, and yet they argue without any experience.
That Tobias guy is as solid as rock in his belief. No arguments/inputs anything positive about China will be absorbed by his brain. In his way of thinking, the Chinese can do nothing good. If Tiktok was an American company, I am sure he will agree. I love how calm Cyrus here.
they need to be anti china to become USA official
He kept his answers brief and to the point and didn't bother engaging with the other guy because he knows the other guy won't listen to them anyway.
you ought to watch the recent debate between him and George Galloway. George totally trashed him. this Ellwoody guy is a total idiot.
Perhaps Tobias is not so much solid as a rock but rather, a block of dead WOOD.
@@vincentho3964 lol
I think UA-cam censorship is more a security threat than Tik Tok !
Spot on
UA-cam belongs to Google. Google quit from China in 2011 because it didn't want to follow China's rules.
100% agreed with you UA-cam, Twitter and Facebook is more a danger to us.
@@jezreelinternational How do you guys figure out that one social media platform is more or less harmful than the other? Explain please.
@@Cedfer69 because they push propaganda to gullible people like maybe yourself?
Want proof - 2016 trump used facebook to win voter confidence.
2020 biden used twitter to do the same.
Whats ur evidence for tictok? None!
All our banks have customer service in Asia, we have to give us our bank accounts and our social security numbers but they fear Tik Tok about the data? WTF?
Your assessment of the discourse between Piers, Tobias, and myself is insightful, particularly from our shared Canadian perspective. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, Tobias's views tend to exhibit an inherent bias, often leading him to overgeneralize when discussing China.
Your reference to the conversation about China's social media policy for teenagers is an excellent example. While Piers acknowledged the potential benefits of the policy in terms of regulation, Tobias's prejudiced mindset presented a contrasting opinion. I appreciate your recognition that Chinese citizens do utilize social media platforms to express their views on government policies.
Piers and Tobias's assertion that this is a ploy by the Chinese government to incarcerate its citizens is, as you correctly noted, an overly biased viewpoint. I agree with your assertion that there is a lack of tangible evidence to support the claim that China uses collected data to penalize ordinary citizens.
Tobias affirmed that China has collected Western data to harm Western societies is speculative at best like Tik Tok. Such statements, filled with assumptive reasoning, underscore the challenges in engaging with these Western perspectives.
As such, it is understandable why China might choose to disregard Western media, given the often hostile and prejudiced narratives. Your encouragement to continue fostering understanding between East and West is appreciated. I believe that the most authentic representation of China is one that truthfully portrays both its strengths and weaknesses from an impartial perspective.
It's so ironic that both the US and UK always talked about rule based international order but vague about what those rules are. And they had been the most notorious rule breakers when they did not like the rules. They consider themselves above all the rules.
Want to know Chinese rules, check Russian
Don't forget all the government buildings they build In Africa with full of hidden microphones and cameras in the desk and walls.
and china also builded up their servers for them... somehow the data of all the employees were being uploaded every night to Shanghai.
How strange, it must be a "lie" or “im racist” , you know if Apple does fraud and you blame Apple, it means ur racist
When the western mainstream media talks about "The International Rule Based Order" they are referring to "The US Based International Order" ! Rules are not laws and the only international based laws is from the collective agreements of the United Nations of which the US is not signatory member of ! The word "International" in capital is not the same as the word "international" in lower case !
Agree
The rule is whatever the rule the US or UK happen to decide to set at the time without consultation to its own ppl(all country vote) or to the world, and yet they say 'their' rule base is good, the rest are all BAD
The fact that you were on the news shows how your voice and efforts are being heard.
dumb and dumber, both will be rewarded to lick Xi JinPing asshole soon.
Great work, Cyrus
I love your work and content. 👍🏻 great video. I admire China.
Cyrus is the one who really understand China
8:22 'I don't believe the state should be imposing its rules'. Oh the irony, isn't that what the US is trying to do on TikTok? 😂
It is his belief not reality based on fact and empirical data 🤣
Not when it comes to national security.
@@TenTenJ why when China says that, it is wrong?
Guess who else ban Tiktok? CHINA
But isn't UA-cam and Facebook banned in China? Isn't that state control?
It’s simple, if you don’t live there, don’t talk about it. You’re the person that’s outside looking in!
China, apparently, is not abiding by our rules and norms!.... Haahaha 😂🤣😂