Crazy Alberto Knot - Improved x 3 (Smoother Casting)
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- I show you how to improve your Alberto knot to make sure it travels smoothly through your guides. The Improved Alberto knot adds an additional 1-2 loops at the end of your knot so you can trim the braid tag as short as possible. My "Improved x 3" Alberto knot adds a half hitch to the braid end of the knot and 3 to 5 half hitches over your leader tag, which ensures your leader tag does not get caught on your guides when casting.
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Been using the Alberto knot for many years and never seen it finished off this way. Looks very interesting. I will be giving it a try. Thanks
Thanks hope it worked for you
Brilliant! I've always avoided making my leader length over 3 feet with the fear of the flouro tag end hitting the eyelets when casting. Now I can go with a longer leader.
Glad the video has helped you Mark. Tight lines!
Normal alberto is fine. I use 40lb braid to 55lb shock. Never had one fail. More knots you put in the bigger the finished knot . I like it as is more streamlined when going through rod guides.
If you cast 2oz jigs or larger, your alberto WILL break and you'll lose your jig, if casting frequently. he's also correct about it snagging the mono tag end and fouling up your lure's action, every so many casts. For this reason I've stopped using it, as its cost me quite a bit of money, and some nice fish, over the years! This improved method may be worth a try, as it does seem to protect that tag end from snagging up, which is what I've always suspected to be the cause, as he has confirmed, but for overall strength, its still inferior to the FG, if going after larger powerful fish like cobia.
Why not just use a simple surgeon? I've found it to be very strong and very easy to tie.
Excellent excellent excellent way to tie. I've fished this summer using different variations of this knot and by far your way is the best. 30# Power Pro V2 braid to 25# Sunline Super Natural clear mono. I've lost several rigs to the others. Never lost my first with yours and caught several fish on it. I will be using this from now on. Thank you.
Glad to hear it has helped your fishing! Thanks for your comment much appreciated.
I use the alberto knot all the time and like you, have run the tag end of the braid through the fluoro loop 2x and then finished it with 2 half hitches. It has never failed me. I'll have to try the extra step to see if it works better for me.
If it's never failed than why would you need to improve it 🤔 🤷🏿♂️
Hope it worked for you
I love this video I like this k it but it always gets caught on the guides I never thought about this before thanks alot
You're welcome, glad it was helpful.
I've found a simple surgeon to be VERY strong and very simple to tie.
Congratulations!
@@thequietfisho 😎😎😎😎
Interesting as I've been having issues with the fluro leader getting caught, hopefully this will solve it. Appreciate the tutorial, tight lines
If it doesn't get caught, or at minimum a bump on the way out, it's gonna get it on the way in. An 18" leader to a swivel has never done me wrong
Thanks for your time to show us another way. Whether or not it works for others is their concern but I will definitely be giving it a go because of losing some gear with that annoying little leader part. Cheers
Thanks Geoff, I can tell you I haven't lost a lure since using this method.
Brilliant, I have suffered with the braid getting slightly snagged. Many thanks 🎣
You're welcome!
Isn't this a solution for the leader material (mono or fluoro) getting snagged? The braid is facing in such a way, and is soft, so that it wouldn't snag.
The rizzuto finish would be great for that
You beat me to this, I'd throw in a half-hitch to keep the Risuto from bleeding back onto the main knot, then the Risuto.
@@NulodPBall true
Thanks man, this is a great idea. My biggest issue with this knot originally, is how the braid can get hung on the fluro tag end, or it getting caught up in the tip. This fixed those issues 👍
Glad to hear it, I had exactly the same issue.
I’ll try it, thanks 🙏🏻
Nice work. What are the requirements. What is the target tensile force. normally the simplest knot is always the most professional. for fine forces the surgical knot is my 1st choice.
The goal is smoother casting
I'm wondering if a little "uv knot sense" tabbed and cured onto the Alberto would accomplish the same purpose. Not as convenient when tying in the field though.
Easiest knot video I have found. Thanks, I tried to tie the fg knot and I can't get that one.
Glad it helped!
@@thequietfisho excuse me sir, do you think that I can use this knot in salt water with fishes like "barracuda, Sierras, Agujas, etc. (Basically fishes that have sharps teeths)
@@thequietfisho and last thing, do you think this knot IS enough for fishes of 10 kg Max
@@PabloSuaDel yes of course you can
@@PabloSuaDel yes if you are using strong enough line. for 10kg fish use line of 25lb or heavier.
Couldnt I do a rizutto finish in place of the 4 half hitches? I think maybe that would create a sort of bullet tip shape on the lead end as it runs out the guides at cast. Maybe even dot it with superglue.
You could!
in theory I totally get what you're shooting for here, but in reality there was a bit of a struggle to finish off the fancy part of the extra half hitches while being in a controlled environment (would be appreciably harder while on a kayak or boat or just on the bank in the wind). might as well tie an fg knot if you're going to go to that level of modifying an alberto knot.
I tie it in the wind all the time, it's only 3-4 half hitches and easy to keep tension on the line. Like anything else a bit of practise makes it easier.
@@thequietfisho but you struggled in the video in a controlled environment…
@@JoeScear sure but I'm shooting a video in one take and trying to focus on about 4 things at once! I'm sure you'll agree half hitches aren't hard to do.
Just tried this myself today and I already tied it 3 times. I’m at a loss. In my mind I know that this would work but when I finish it off with the half hitches the knots will not hold tight to tag end of the fluorocarbon. I even square knotted it like you did in the video and to no avail. I mean I do see that it will hold tight for the video but I can’t imagine it would hold tight to the fluoro tag end indefinitely. I eventually just cut off the “improvement” part of it. It could work for a moment but because the improvement line runs over the main knot it will come lose since the finishing half hitches are prone to sliding. I’m sorry but this simply won’t work for me. Maybe the kind of fishing you do doesn’t pose a threat to the finish, but as I fish a lot of heavy cover the finish will pose a concern to me. Thanks for the suggestion, but I’ll keep looking.
I'm not sure why this doesn't work for you, perhaps you don't have enough tension in the line when running it up past the main knot and tying the first half hitch? In over a year of using this method I haven't had the half hitches come undone once.
If you want it to stay I suggest finishing off with a rizzuto instead of half hitches. Half hitches tend to get undone after a while.
Tiniest drop of super glue.
Just use straight braid if your fishing heavy cover 😂 very simple answer to your problem 🤦♂️
Apakah kuat untuk ikan lebih dari 5kg?
It sure is, I use it for carp no problem.
Does this connection work for UL as well? Pe1 line to 8lb fluorocarbon?
Yes I only use it for light lines. Mainly PE 0.6 & 0.8.
how would it catch on guids?
You don't cast the leader out of the rod.
You do if you're fishing with lures..
If you are Beach casting or similar you would, leader knot has to be on the reel for safety.
I don’t understand the added complexity. I use the standard Alberto on 30# braid to 15# flouro. Never had one fail. They are simple enough to be tied even on a rolling bost.
If you fish a smaller rod with micro guides this does help keep leader tag from ticking on the guides
C’est simplement le noeud Albrigth renforcé
Exactly
what brand of scissors/pliers are those???
Daiwa
Good
If you use the FG knot your tag ends face the other way and will pass through the guides smoothly on your cast.
We all know that. The reason for this knot is that the FG knot is not suitable for a light leader line.
It is no good for Tapered Leaders where the Diameter at reel end is not 3 times or more the diameter of the Braid.
What is this knot called?
It's the title of the video..
I would finish off with a rizzuto, almost impossible to fray.
Instead of doing 3 to 5 overhand knots.. i just do a standard fishermans knot (clinch) with 5 wraps. Its actually faster and stronger, and wont come undone. But in all honesty.. i never tie braid straight to floro/mono anyway. I use a swivel, and tie trilene knots on both side.. which gives top breaking strength, and solves any line twist. I dont like reeling any knot through the gides. And because all tbe salt/fresh water is muddy in my area of texas.. even straight braid is ok 90% of the time. The only clear water around here is in swimming pools
A clinch will probably be too thick for the guides but I'll give it try.
I don't like the extra stuff at the end b/c it makes the knot thicker.
But it casts better...
@@thequietfisho I don't mind the half hitches at the end to taper the knot. I just don't prefer to make a half hitch that spans the length of the knot. If it works for you though, that's cool. I like to do half hitches just on the end to taper it.
Try tying this knot with a 6 lb fluoro leader to 15 lb. braid.. It's damn near impossible.
At what stage did you have trouble? And out of interest why are you pairing 6lb with 15lb?
Is it important that the coils on the back way are exactly in the middle between the coils on the go way?
Because when you’re on the boat with 1m waves this is the hardest part..
Ideally yes, depends on how big your guides are..
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i really don't think you're making an improvement beyond adding an extra wrap at the end for the traditional "improved alberto." you've greatly increased the profile of the knot, added a loose piece of braid. i use the alberto from time to time. strong knot. best strength over FG is how quickly you can tie the alberto. if you need a lower profile knot you can go to the fg. it's as low profile as they come and it's stronger. here, you're adding time, adding volume to the knot, and i can't really say i trust its ability to protect my knot or reduce the damage done to it or the reduction of casting distance through the guides. i would be curious to see if you figured out a way to get the tag end of the braid onto the other side of the knot without going outside of the knot. like a rizutto or a snell.
All I know is this improved knot travels through the guides smoothly now, no more hang ups on microguides from the leader tag, that's the point of this knot. Casting distance has been improved as a result and I haven't noticed any issues with strength.
I don’t understand passing over the knot to make your half hitch. Makes the knot thicker. Why not just cut a small piece of braid and tie overhand knots on the leader end of the Alberto knot.
Have your tried it? It works beautifully..
It leaves a line of braid on top of your knot. You’re better off finishing off with a rizzuto after that. Still pretty slim. I’ll see how it holds up
Is this not the Carrot Knot ?
Hadn't heard of that knot but had a look and they're similar but different.
The "improved" part is unnecessary. I've never had a regular alberto fail and it takes half the time and the knot is smaller. The modified alberto adds extra complications but, doesn't make it any better. A regular alberto with 5 wraps is plenty.
That's great the regular Alberto works for you. Everyone's fishing tackle needs are different. For me, using rods with micro guides and fishing with light line, this method works best.
FG is the way to go when I am using micro guides.
@@thequietfishowith repeated fishing that improved knot will unhinged and mess up ur throw..
@@silvergaurchannel9609 that hasn't happened to me yet, trim the tag short and it will be fine.
If it never failed, it's likely because you are overcompensating with a rather large line. 80lb line on a bass reel for example.
In finesse fishing world, Alberto breaks all the time.
For me it will always be the FG knot and the Shintaro Knot, any other connection knots is completely useless from my experience
FG would be useless connecting these 2 lines. You need a much larger leader line than the braid in order for the FG, PR, etc. to be effective.
@@HookLineSingerwrong…. I tie as small as 5lbs test braid to a 2lbs flouro leader
@@leepao6302 It will not be very strong though as you are weakening the thin line.
never seen the Alberto Knot finished this way.. its now a real Crazy alberto... I'll stick with the old version.
If the regular version works for you then no need to change
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Who has 7 mins to tie a knot when fishing?
Lol, it's a tutorial video
There's nothing "improved" about this. You made the knot worse
Thanks so much for your feedback, appreciate it.
Try tying with 80lb braid and 150-200lb mono... post the results.. :)
Like I said in the video, I use it for light line :)
Try catching any tackle shy fish with 80lb braid and 200lb mono, horses for courses.