Why Should You Go to Church?
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Do you yourself attend church?
As an atheist I can see the value of the church and its belief system and stories, myths and teaching. I see the reality of say Christianity as the effect of a society that has been taught the values of Christianity and how that society behaves because of those beliefs. That is real. The manifestation of Christianity is how a society that has Christian beliefs behaves. I would rather live in a Christian society than an atheist society because it would be a safer, friendlier, happier place to live in.
I go to the ark church in Maize , Ks . You should look it up. You can move raise hands , yell lol . Hope you continue your journey I'm still on mine .
Methinks you know NOTHING about Religion! STICK TO YOUR LANE PETERSON!!! 🥊
The Holy Ghost pours out his Spirit and brings the increase in the name of Jesus. The latter rain proceeds the second coming and it is what waters the seed. Without the Spirit of God no one is saved. Believe in your idea of Jesus till the end of time, it does little good. You need to accept his ambassador and representative. So when the Holy Spirit shows himself and is rejected that is the unpardonable sin. To grieve the Spirit of God is to reject life.
The supreme witness of Jesus Christ (King David) is reporting for duty.
He was a man whose tongue held no lies,
For he was the direct descendant of our father in the heavenly skies.
Born to a body of fleshy sin,
Though what laid beneath was unlike the rest of his kin.
Jesus had the utmost grace,
Never being wavered by evils face.
He was wise beyond any years,
Performing miracles that would bring crowds to tears.
A beacon of light on top of a starless mountain,
Where words of wisdom poured out of him as if there ran a cosmic fountain.
His eyes pierced through you with a single glance,
Leaving even the most hardened individuals in quite the trance.
The Holy Spirit so ever majestically flowed inside this man,
Naturally people caught notice and became a fan.
Students began showing up from every mold,
When they heard his words their hearts were sold.
Wicked men put a price on Jesus's head,
He was wanted alive or dead.
Despite this he and his disciples continued their teachings,
Where on occasion they endured terrible beatings.
One of the twelve apostles turned to black,
No longer having Jesus's back.
Judas Iscariot had done Satan's bidding,
And it is in hell where he now is sitting.
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our shortcoming,
However don't be saddened for if you believe in him you will see him at your homecoming.
There he sits at the right hand of God's throne,
Being the voice of truth and love that we all have known.
Satan's tongue is coated in a layer of deceit,
And he tramples over promises with his feet.
He's a being who is bound by deceptions,
Whose very essence oozes with misconceptions.
He struggles to look you in your eyes,
For his gaze holds nothing but lies.
On occasion he will give you his hand,
But don't be fooled by his stand.
He seeks to corrupt your heart,
You would be wise to avoid him from the start.
Seeking quick pleasures and casting aside love,
He traverses this land with push and shove.
Now Lucifer was once not lost,
But pride blinded him at a cost.
Disobeying God he waged war,
Becoming detestable to the core.
Today he is the ruler of Earth,
Though for all his power he has no real worth.
However most of us have still been sold,
Giving into sin and becoming cold.
Nearly everyone is a puppet dancing on strings,
Marching to delusion for their unjust kings.
My people have given into lust,
Becoming robots full of rust.
However you my child are the exception,
So when you meet me don't forget to mention.
That you alone have been granted the key,
And before your glory they shall all bend a knee.
P.S.- Not too long ago I was very bitter and destructive. Literally I was covered in blood from head to toe and ripping off nails and things of that nature. In my mind Jesus was against me, he had a vendetta against me which I couldn't account for. Then slowly but surely I started having these revelations, and began delving into the word of God. It seemed like my agony was not in vain. The things which held me back eventually began to propel me forward. The darkness began fading away and an unspeakably bright light was surfacing. Jesus told me that he had to break me in order for me to rediscover who I really was. Sort of like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Today I am almost fully healed in every conceivable way, and things like being a virgin and being covered in scars I strangely enough take much pride in. I took up my cross and followed Christ and in doing so I discovered the greatest love of all.
I spent the better part of my 20s declaring myself an atheist, rebelling against the roots of my Christian upbringing. I married an amazing man at 21, though we both got away from the faiths of our childhood. I became a mother at 28 and the love I felt as a parent changed my whole perspective of the meaning of life. We began to go to church (in the heart of the bible belt, no less!) and started to turn away from my atheism, realizing that I actually had really misunderstood so much of what I formerly rebelled against. But doubt persisted despite my longing to have bigger faith. I became pregnant with my 2nd child at 29 years old and caught COVID when I was 7 months pregnant. I was pretty bad off, and was placed on a ventilator for 10 days. I woke up in the ICU having no idea that my baby and I had just survived such an ordeal. The nurse told me I was very lucky to be alive and was one of the few pregnant covid mothers on that ward at that time that had bounced back after being put on life support with my baby alive too. The fact that others in my very situation didnt survive is not lost on me. I think about it daily. As soon as the nurse left the room, I surrendered my life to God and thanked Him for giving me a second chance. I may not have all the answers to life, but everyday that me and my son wake up is a gift. I will forever praise Jesus, and idc how crazy it may sound to some.
great story, thank you for sharing!
this would've sounded crazy to me a year ago, but God came into my life recently as well in the most unexplainable and overwhelming of ways. I am touched by your story. God bless you and yours
I like your story. But I'm still in the atheïstic phase. So don't forget to praise Mohammed for the role he played in saving you and your child. And damn the Devil for making all those other people die in the ICU, he is a very bad bad man.
What I am trying to say;
Religion is a way for us to deal with reality.
Many pregnant Christian women died. Why?
This is touching. It is, really. But there is a DEEP part of me that blanches at, "Those other people died and I didn't. I guess God has something special for me." So, what...? He was smoking in the men's room while those other people were dying...? I find this type of quiet arrogance profoundly unsettling. It is good that you are alive, and I'm glad you are back with "family", but these kinds of celebrations...I dunno. Humans seek to find order amidst chaos.
Brilliant.
The Father, Uncle, Brother, Cousin, Friend I never had.
Well put. I hope you have a wonderful happy day.
He is the archetype of the wise old man.
Truly.
Real talk 💯
I’ve sought out his guidance many times
I love this video. Haha. I was raised a Catholic and didn’t start taking it seriously until about 3 or 4 months ago. Now that I go to Mass every Sunday and try to follow the commandments of Christ, I’ve never felt or found this much peace and contentment. I cannot even claim I was the one to go back on my own, who called me back? Jesus Christ called me, He made the ultimate sacrifice for us all, it’s about time we sacrifice our egos and time for Him, the only begotten Son of God. God bless you all. Peace be with you.
Amen! 🙏
This is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing!!
Next step, born again Christian. God bless!
@@bryant475 Ah! I’ve already been born again! The Holy Spirit has come! Thank you for the offer of conversion, but I am very much satisfied with the Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist! And will never leave that behind!
So, you unequivocally support the trauma that the Catholic Church has perpetually committed against the human society?
As a Orthodox Christian there are many reason to attend church. I myself have had so many positive things happened to me from a low point in my life where i actually prayed for things and they came true. I go to give thanks and praise. Sure I can thank God from my bedroom but I believe making the effort to actually go shows my gratitude. Also people go for many other reasons...people who are lonely will met other people that understand and want to reach out to you......God made church for his flock...he doesn't need the church the building but he wants the people to help other people ....the church is people not the bricks and mortar.
And don't forget the Eucharist! The Living Bread.
@@TheLifeProTips Really? Living Bread? Are we really going to act like that thing is the body of a magic carpenter boy? I mean....you can play this all you want, but by what right do you claim that your thing is special?
@@LeonardLeon Yes. A difficult starting point topic if you aren’t even a Christian, but even Jesus’s own disciples had difficulty with it, as it is written: “When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?” 61 But Jesus, being aware that his disciples were complaining about it, said to them, “Does this offend you?(B) 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?(C) 63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But among you there are some who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who were the ones who did not believe and who was the one who would betray him.(D) 65 And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted by the Father.”(E)
66 Because of this many of his disciples turned back and no longer went about with him. 67 So Jesus asked the twelve, “Do you also wish to go away?” 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom can we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.”
@@TheLifeProTips please tell me which chapter this is
@@ktmrcduke3962 Starting John Chapter 6 Verse 61
"and you think religious people are crazy"
rofl that was a beautiful point, brillantly articulated as always
I'm not the one who believes a dead carpenter is talking to me
Some religious people believe in talking snakes and donkeys so yes, they are crazy. Sorry to break it to you.
@@kevinkelly2162 and non believers feed off of entertainment and practically believe their idols are real. There’s no valid argument in saying that believing what the scriptures say is true is insane.
That's actually why I'm a conservative atheist. I think religion is really stupid but the identity politics, gender theorists, groomers, etc of the left are probably twice as bad.
Yeah im not exactly religious, but id be lying that being in any rigorous ceremony doesn't fill you with some kind of awe. I mean as kid, just chilling in a church was special.
I haven't gone to church in a couple years, just been fighting depression but maybe going back is exactly what I need. I'm also Orthodox and was raised going to a Ukrainian Orthodox church in a small town called Andrew in Alberta Canada. I find something soothing when you attend, the tradition and divine liturgy that has been the same since Christ. There is an English-speaking Orthodox church in my city that I was attending
I love orthodoxy!
This is refreshing. Would love to hear more about your journey. Church is where it's at.
I just took my family last weekend. I haven’t been since I was a kid but now as a dad things look much different in life. Good luck to you man
I encourage you to go, Christianity won't change you, Jesus Christ will. Watch how He changes people.
Try to learn about Islam, I'm not forcing you just learn it with an open heart without the ideas of media that's it
As a pastors son, I have absolute empathy for people who are failed by their churches and choose a life without God.
I’ve seen churches with all kinds of environments and a bad church that is run with sin should be casted out, but if you find the right church with an immovable set of faith and values you’ll find true bliss.
Ain’t nothing like pure acceptance of the lost soul by a multiple of people trying to cleanse it and lift the spirit way up!
@Apple Account s Good reference.
Bible studies are something extraordinary at times.
Choosing a life without the church is not choosing a life without God.
Please don't conflate the two.
@@cniht I didn’t.
I’m empathizing with an existing group of people.
In my experience, your relationship with the church affects your relationship with God, especially if you’re a new comer.
If the church treats you poorly and you’re just a child, you will see God as an enemy, not a savior and who wants to allow an enemy in their lives?
Please, try to imagine the concept that you live in a world with other people with their own unique experiences.
Many people didn't reject Christianity, Christianity rejected them.
I'm a prime example. Not allowed to be a Christian because my parents lived in sin and were excommunicated for it (my dad was a Catholic, member of the church quire, my mother was Dutch Reformed, they were rejected by their churches and in case of my mother by her family for daring to love outside of the congregation).
Further rejected by Christianity for being transgender and therefore doomed to burn in hell for all eternity (despite being celibate my entire life, and will remain so until and unless I find someone I'm ready to marry, that's more pious than most Christian priests despite them vowing celibacy and me never having done so).
And despite all that I still largely live by Christian values (though somewhat modified, as a lot of them demand unthinking obedience to the Church hierarchy which obviously is a no-way no-go thing for me) as I was raised to.
And most other religions are no better. Heck, I'm more enamoured by Buddhism than anything for the last 10 years or so if I ever wanted to join an organised religion, and that one's hardly organised at all.
@@TheHigherVoltage The truth!
Thank you Jordan. This was so important to me. I'm going back to church today after hearing this. Because if I don't go...I'm part of the dissolution that allows that which fills the gap. Thank you🙏
That's a beautiful enlightenment, spoken with such transparency. Pray for the best. 🙏
Amen!
Love this man, this is really hitting the nail on the head! "You think the Catholics are bad, wait to you see what's coming to replace them". I have been struggling lately in my devout Catholic life but this happens and is normal before a revelation of sorts. I am determined to simplify my life drastically, cutting down on Facebook and Messenger, trips to the city, alcohol, caffeine and sugary treats. Trying to live a simple and earthly holy life everyday at my home, with a good balance of work prayer and gratitude; rarely going out; trying not to chase or change the world but to change myself!
@DiscipleDave DotCom cheers, we are powerless to control ourselves without the grace of God. Seek a holy life and sin will tend to drop away 😊
@@eamonnmurphy5385 you are powerless to control yourself. You need to be controlled by God since you don't have any morality
I was raised roman catholic. At age 10 I fell in love with science, and soon when I turned 13 my parents gave me the choice to attend church or not. I stopped going immediately and pursued science. Now at age 40 something I find myself attending mass again. Not necessarily seeking redemption or absolution or anything of that nature, perhaps some answers on the madness gripping the world, but I just find the church building and its atmosphere and related rituals calming and soothing, much like JP. I also really appreciate the fact it's a place my local community still make an effort for, in terms of appearance and pride, everyone turns up in their Sunday best looking sharp. I always leave with a wholesome, happy feeling... and if nothing else, it's worth going for that alone.
Jeez, I could have written your reply myself. I also abandoned the church in my early teens and enthusiastically drowned myself in secular theory, imagining the utopia possible without the church. Well, here we are, decades later, further from a homogenous value system than at any point in human history.
@@danboshane6956 "the" church... homogeneity can only ever be a parochial illusion, an ignorance of the diversity of people existing in foreign lands. It is an ignorance impossible to maintain in any globalized city, or anywhere with internet access (in a sense the internet is the largest globalized city).
We are all trying to come home.Well done sir...Ireland
Roman was before christ, thats why you catholics not are christians.
What are you smokin man
Thank you JP for helping us in the journey of redemption from abject nihilism.
Into delusion?
@@SolitaryReaper666 into faith and hope.
@@garyn1780 Into faith and reason.
@@Yes-gq6rr mutually exclusive
@@SolitaryReaper666 atheism is a belief. You are confronted with the reality of a creator. Life gets better when your paths honour the creator.
I wasn’t raise Christian. Now I love the Roman Catholic Mass. There’s always a mass wherever I go. If I’m traveling for work or on vacation I can still attend a mass. God bless his people.
Very cool! Mass truly is amazing
Catholicism is basically paganism wearing a Christian coat.
@@totallyanonymousbish9599 “Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.”
@@chanman201 that's how cults work:
@@totallyanonymousbish9599 You’re right. 1989 year old cult starting with Peter, going through the old Christian followers, through Martin Luther, until now.
Did you know the Protestant Bible (canonized in 1500s) is missing books from the Old that the original Greeks Christians, like Timothy, read? The original greek Christians read the Septuagint.
He has a point here, some of the people that live in this world like to have their cake and eat it too. I understand most of us have some inconsistencies as most humans do, but the degree of inconsistencies that have been growing is unfortunate. I wish all reading to have a spectacular day, and maintain as much sanity as you can in these times.
absolute children all of them
sitting online in echo-chambers brainwashing themselves calling it "the daddy in the sky"
put them in the Ukrainian front and see what they think of masculinity and femininity then
Thank you, I wish the same to you. Have a lovely day.
The worst part of it is those people celebrate their inconsistencies and insist that we all live in a similarly inconsistent way. Morality is relative and subjective, they say. It's a dangerous worldview to have. Let us all safely maneuver away from it.
Stop calling these times crazy. Did you live through the cold war and the threat of nuclear destruction? Did you live in the 1930's in Germany or the 1920's in Russia? Stop fucking pretending like these times we live in today are insane. Go back and look at history and discard that narcissistic notion of this being incredible insane times we live in.
@@tylermoser2830 You know, racists in the 1950's didn't believe morality was relative but that it was moral to subjugate people of color as second class citizens per a moral standpoint. Funny how that changed right? How morals do change over time? Once upon a time women weren't allowed to own property or vote. Funny how that changed too. Now tell me about your everlasting, non-relativistic morals that should dictate how society works.
Nietzsche's quote about killing God is always cut off. He says that were drowning in the blood of God because we killed them. Removing God has severe consequences.
It's so baffling how Nietzsche is so terribly misunderstood and misrepresented. People and schools say that he was happy about the idea of the "death of God" when in fact that's almost completely reverse the point he was trying to make with his famous "God is dead" lines.
These generations are absolutely feeling the consequences.....
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 Just like people say the founding fathers included the separation of church and state to protect the state from the church but read John Locke's "Essay on Toleration" of which they took from in drafting the constitution and Locke states it more frequently that the two entities should be separated in order to protect the church, as a church is a voluntary gathering of individuals and a state is involuntary. You can choose to not be part of a church but even if you don't vote in the state you are still subject to it within its territory. One is a matter of the spirit and one is a matter of the worldly
Read Jung. We didn't kill God, even Nietzsche found that out right after he saw that horse beaten to death in Firenze.
If you don't find God it doesn't mean there is no God. Maybe he's just small. Like an egg...
Yeah, I went and got more into that. He was saying that, as a continuation, that God must be replaced with something equally as good for the community if we are to remove him. Not that he was some deep-seated edgelord who reveled in God's death.
What I love about Mr. Jordan’s ability to laugh and get laughs. Nothing is so serious to take away our laughter.
Having a good church to go to is amazing. No church is perfect because as humans, we all have sin in our lives. But having people around to encourage me to strive after Christ in every part of my life has helped me grow both relationally and spiritually, especially through the pandemic.
True..
Absolutely. That’s the only thing I miss about the city I raised my kids in, my church and it’s people.
If you believe that God is the author of all things, wouldn't the pandemic also be his doing?
Get some friends and go hiking and camping. You will feel true religion. In fact, I invite you to come to outback Australia and come camping with me and my family under the stars, 100s of km from towns. There is NO CHURCH on this planet that brings you closer to creation.
@@kev3d if you think you know enough to ridicule Christianity with that one dumb question then my advice would be to read a bit more about the basic ideas of Christianity. That will at least save you from the embarrassment of asking a question that indicates a complete and utter lack of comprehension about the topic.
It's a shame more people don't think and speak so well. Imagine what colloquial conversation and pop culture could be if it were so.
He spoke this well just different subject material while he was utterly addicted to drugs and using them to deal with the difficulties of the real world. Don’t be fooled by how people speak or how they act in front of the public. You will only know how they really feel by eavesdropping on the thoughts that occur at 3 a.m.
NARRATOR: We're working on it. Sit tight and enjoy the meltdowns, won't be having them for centuries to come.
When your worldview is completely based on aesthetics.
@@honkyjesuseternal 1) Not a direct quote. The purpose of quotations is not to paraphrase, but to exactly represent what was said.
2) What magical world do you live in where the wrongful censorship of free speech is okay? I would have said something similar in his position, as would have many of us.
Never apologize for something that you didn't do, and do not apologize unless you did something wrong. That is a rule in the society we live in today. To apologize is to admit fault. At that point, you have surrendered your ability to defend yourself. You are merely confirming the beliefs of the far-left keyboard warriors. When you break that rule, you lose instantly.
Most people aren't trying to make living by spreading propaganda and lies so they don't have to sound intelligent and convincing.
He always finds a way to make me smile and understand myself a little better!
Shame you can't find a way to understand yourself without someone doing it for you. But we can't all be amazing humans I guess
I do it by myself all the time. And you don't have to be "amazing" to do it. That doesnt mean you can't learn something from others
@@powerplant8676 someone's got a bit of an ego eh
@@samustrades technically we all have a bit of one lol
@@powerplant8676 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
I just wanted to say what a great inspiration you are Mr Jordan. And also I love your great sense of humor. Thank you so much..👍
Sending all my love from South Africa Prof Peterson. You are saving lives by sticking to Truth. ❤❤❤❤
Jonathan Pageau, the reason I’m now a catechumen. Thanks Jordan for introducing me to Jonathan and thanks Jonathan for telling me to go to church and not be an “internet Christian”. I enjoy it when you get together!
You're on the right path my guy
Are you entering Orthodox or Catholic church thus Easter?
@@LauraBeeDannon Yes orthodox, God willing next year.
Thanks for sharing. I grew up agnostic/atheistic and was taught general do’s and don’ts by well meaning and loving agnostic parents, but it wasn’t until an existential crisis of sorts in my college years that I began to explore theology. I had a couple of what some might call religious experiences during this time, and I eventually found myself in an Orthodox Church. I was not convinced at first, but I decided to attempt to live as if it was real. It has been 6 months, and the truth of the church has become a truth to me in a self-apparent way - more than I could have imagined. I expect it will continue to convict me of the truth even further so long as I continue on this path. While far from a “perfectly redeemed” soul, and still full of sin and folly, I feel like I am finally on the path towards living a meaningful life in the truest sense as a young man with a young family - the most essential time to develop true meaning. This is thanks largely to the church, and dare I say, entirely thanks to the grace of God whom until recently I denied the very existence of.
good for you!
Keep learning man
@@Zoomo2697 Bishop Sheen quotes are soo good, right there with some Chesterton. ❤️
So you thrown yourself into delusion to give your life meaning?
Amen! Only our Father God can change the heart of man this way. Isn't it a miracle that a person can go from denying, mocking and hating the very nature and existence of a God, to believing and completely trusting in God? Men is incapable of making such drastic changes to their hearts and minds, only God can change a man's heart in such a way. God bless my brother.
5:13 "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them."
George Orwell, 1984
Or Claiming to believe in Hod while not believing in god and telling others to Go to church. 😍
It's not a power, it's just "not caring"
Jordan Peterson. Wow. Just love the guy!! So glad to see you seemingly healthy once again!! May you and yours be blessed in every way!!
I have not even watched this yet, but have only read the comments. Hopefully you can see, Dr. P., how very important this posting was. And how many more you need to do. Hard hearts may not soften on their own, but even the hardest of hearts will eventually crack... and that is how the light gets in. So thank you -- and keep it up, and be there for them. :-)
I’m doing to be 77. I have felt the dumbing down of our youth for years. I’m so grateful for Dr Peterson. He speaks to young people as though they are at his level. That is one of the reasons, I think, that he is so loved and respected. I feel as though I’m proud of him as though I’m his mother or aunt. I think I learn so much from him that he gives me pure joy. Not many things in old age can do that.
That was very enjoyable to listen to. He's so interesting and thorough in his train of thought
This video, has made me decide, to go to Church, tomorrow, for the first time since early 2006.
I see he is still searching. We all go down many roads and think that it is the correct one only to find out that it was not the correct road. The 24/7 personal walk and relationship with the Most High is an ongoing, never ending, continuous learning journey, because none of us has all the answers. That is why Jesus/Yeshua stated "Let every man work out his own salvation with fear and trembling before the Most High."
He created us each differently. We each see things through different eyes and different opinions and should not compare ourselves with anyone else for we each are unique in our own way. You can assemble without it being in a building. For we are the "Temple" of the Most High. And "wherever two or three gather together in my name, There I am also." Be Blessed!
The Holy Ghost pours out his Spirit and brings the increase in the name of Jesus. The latter rain proceeds the second coming and it is what waters the seed. Without the Spirit of God no one is saved. Believe in your idea of Jesus till the end of time, it does little good. You need to accept his ambassador and representative. So when the Holy Spirit shows himself and is rejected that is the unpardonable sin. To grieve the Spirit of God is to reject life.
The supreme witness of Jesus Christ (King David) is reporting for duty.
He was a man whose tongue held no lies,
For he was the direct descendant of our father in the heavenly skies.
Born to a body of fleshy sin,
Though what laid beneath was unlike the rest of his kin.
Jesus had the utmost grace,
Never being wavered by evils face.
He was wise beyond any years,
Performing miracles that would bring crowds to tears.
A beacon of light on top of a starless mountain,
Where words of wisdom poured out of him as if there ran a cosmic fountain.
His eyes pierced through you with a single glance,
Leaving even the most hardened individuals in quite the trance.
The Holy Spirit so ever majestically flowed inside this man,
Naturally people caught notice and became a fan.
Students began showing up from every mold,
When they heard his words their hearts were sold.
Wicked men put a price on Jesus's head,
He was wanted alive or dead.
Despite this he and his disciples continued their teachings,
Where on occasion they endured terrible beatings.
One of the twelve apostles turned to black,
No longer having Jesus's back.
Judas Iscariot had done Satan's bidding,
And it is in hell where he now is sitting.
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our shortcoming,
However don't be saddened for if you believe in him you will see him at your homecoming.
There he sits at the right hand of God's throne,
Being the voice of truth and love that we all have known.
Satan's tongue is coated in a layer of deceit,
And he tramples over promises with his feet.
He's a being who is bound by deceptions,
Whose very essence oozes with misconceptions.
He struggles to look you in your eyes,
For his gaze holds nothing but lies.
On occasion he will give you his hand,
But don't be fooled by his stand.
He seeks to corrupt your heart,
You would be wise to avoid him from the start.
Seeking quick pleasures and casting aside love,
He traverses this land with push and shove.
Now Lucifer was once not lost,
But pride blinded him at a cost.
Disobeying God he waged war,
Becoming detestable to the core.
Today he is the ruler of Earth,
Though for all his power he has no real worth.
However most of us have still been sold,
Giving into sin and becoming cold.
Nearly everyone is a puppet dancing on strings,
Marching to delusion for their unjust kings.
My people have given into lust,
Becoming robots full of rust.
However you my child are the exception,
So when you meet me don't forget to mention.
That you alone have been granted the key,
And before your glory they shall all bend a knee.
P.S.- Not too long ago I was very bitter and destructive. Literally I was covered in blood from head to toe and ripping off nails and things of that nature. In my mind Jesus was against me, he had a vendetta against me which I couldn't account for. Then slowly but surely I started having these revelations, and began delving into the word of God. It seemed like my agony was not in vain. The things which held me back eventually began to propel me forward. The darkness began fading away and an unspeakably bright light was surfacing. Jesus told me that he had to break me in order for me to rediscover who I really was. Sort of like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Today I am almost fully healed in every conceivable way, and things like being a virgin and being covered in scars I strangely enough take much pride in. I took up my cross and followed Christ and in doing so I discovered the greatest love of all.
@@Vashthestampedeo - Thank you for sharing such an awesome testimony and letting us see the grace and mercy of our Father through His Son. And if you wrote the poem, AWESOME! Be Blessed!
@@IShallNotBeSilent
Aww thank you so much friend. Jesus has granted me many supernatural abilities which I'm trying to use for the good of mankind. There's a lot on my shoulders to say the least; to whom much is given much is required. But I truly feel blessed to be so close to our father. When the storm came (and what a storm it was) Jesus guided me through and gave me the strength needed to persevere. Indeed the gates of hell didn't prevail, despite throwing its fiercest onslaught my way. Now that I have some time to catch my breath and reflect on what just occurred I'm doing my best to return the favor and pouring out my spirit in hopes of evangelizing the world and setting the stage for the Lord's second coming.
P.S.- Indeed those poems were written by me.
I am leary of Jordan Peterson. it is what I do hear and what i don't hear. I hear some truth, but do not hear the Gospel. The Gospel is our only hope, if Jordan peterson does not repent and believe unto Christ, the lake of fire awaits him and all those who do not repent of sin against God.
The thing that worries me is how many shady/corrupt churches there are. If I could find a church of people I could trust that were genuinely trying to help others, I would go
"By their fruits ye shall know them."
Then you be the change in the church. The idea is that the church community is a symbol for new Jerusalem. If you exude kingdom love, then how could it not be amazing. BTW, that was the main reason I started going to Catholic Church. Protestant churches become a personality cult, that’s where you get preachers with sneakers.
All people are flawed.
You should ready Scott Hahn (The Lamb’s Supper) and understand the meaning of the mass. You need to study it. I used to think like you too! We have to separate the men from the Institution.
then you will never go...look in the mirror you sin too
Great deductive reasoning!
Thank you,Jordan Peterson!
SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE THIS MAN SHARE HIS WISDOM !
I was raised in church, walked away to find answers and now see the church pulling me back because of logic and rational thoughts from Dr. Peterson? Strange world.
Isn't it, indeed?
Muslims follow the laws of Jesus closer than any other religion.
In the garden of gethsemane Jesus prayed by putting his face on the floor, like the Muslims do.
Jesus forbade and didn’t drink alcohol, or eat pork, many Christian’s don’t do that, but Muslims do.
Jesus kept a beard.
The female followers of Jesus wore head coverings like the Muslims.
The word for god in Jesus’ language (Aramaic) is Allaha / Elah.
Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day, many Christian’s are not but Muslims are.
Jesus fasted for 40 days and many Christian scholars agree this would be a similar fast to the Muslims as in Ramadan.
Jesus believed in only ONE GOD, a man came to him asking what is the greatest commandment and he repeated the Shema, “hear o Israel your lord thy God is ONE”, this is what Muslims believe but Christian’s believe in a triune god.
When jesus entered the upper chamber he said to his disciples “peace be unto you” this is how Muslims greet each other.
If Jordan wants Christian’s to go to the church to follow the teachings of jesus, perhaps he should point them to a Mosque.
We believe he was a mighty prophet of God, the messiah, born miraculously and performed miracles, taken up into heaven by god before his crucifixion and we believe he will return.
@H_4Truth Muslims certainly don't follow the Hadith. Or most rules in the Quran....and that's wonderful for humanity. Christians and Muslima alike MUST drop all violent texts calling for harm to be erased from your doctrin. There is no need for the barbarism thatvis still enthralled in those holy books, both the Bible and Quran.
@@h_4truth560 Christianity is about a circumcision of the heart first and foremost. So modesty for example looks different in Christian culture because it's not about what clothes people were wearing in biblical times, it's about a heart posture, something that comes from the inside out. It means different things to different people depending on what God is bringing them through. It's not imposed on them by an external religious structure.
“ ‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’ c ”
10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
Matthew 15:8-11
28A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.
Romans 2:28-29
People underestimate the logic and rationality of the Bible. It’s because it isn’t earthly, we don’t recognise it until we read and think with a spiritual mind that isn’t founded on material physics and the familiar world we know. All the best to you ✝️
I wish everybody well in their pursuit of the Truth
Just love the clarity of words! So good
I can relate 100%. I’m essentially agnostic but deeply Christian in my values and a strong apologist for Christianity as a whole
I strongly relate to your position. I was the same way for the majority of my life. Now, at 59 years old, I openly declare my belief in Christ. I highly recommend this book: 'Jesus and the Near Death Experience: Testimonies of the Ascended Christ' by Roy L. Hill. I think you might find it life-changing. 😊
Why do you label your values as “Christian,” if you were able to come to them, despite being agnostic, proving that they are not strictly Christianity based values? Or, do you only have these value because of the possibility that Christianity is true?
@BVale But, if these values are inherited from Christianity and you aren’t convinced of Christianity, then why would you continue to follow these values?
@BVale I am an atheist and I have no values. And, atheists don’t say that science has all the answers, rather we say that, if science doesn’t currently have the correct answer to something, then probably nobody does.
@BVale “Then what gets you out of bed in the morning?”
Why does a bird get up in the morning? It’s in all animals instincts to survive.
“If you applied for any job and told the interviewer that you had no values, I wonder how far you’d get.”
I’ve never been asked my values in a job interview.
“Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine - but for unbelievers a proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight”
― Hilaire Belloc
😆❤️💒whoever calls the Catholic church an "organized religion" has never been on a ministry council..they have no idea....
@@LauraBeeDannon lol👍
You would think the god they worship would've found better leaders within the first millennia. And a way to get rid of the pedophiles.
Hilaire was a hack as that is the core of Osip's argument in the novel, War & Peace, about why the story of Jesus was still alive, relevant, and thriving in Russia during the 1800's and the rise of communism and the scientific revolution.
Hilaire is also grifting since he called himself a historian knowing full well that the entire point of War & Peace was to mock historians for being hack authors. I've also seen another quote being used by modern hacks.
"Kings are pawns to historians." ~War & Peace
Not being a human institution still leaves a couple options.
"When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation." ~Matthew 12;43-45
I agree with that completely. There are so many foolish people out there that are more of this world, and sadly raise their kids to be like this. Last week I overheard a father riding his bike through a cemetery with his young son, say to the kid that some people believe that when you die your soul lives on, but he did not believe in such 'nonsense' and that infuriated me because he's in a way teaching his kid that 'this world is for the living' as he said, and that when you pass on, you're pretty much soulless like an object such as a rock. What kind of life will that boy have if he continues to hear such things from his father? If this man doesn't believe in anything spiritual, he should keep that to himself instead of raising his boy to be the same as he is. Non believing and spiritually empty. This is how we end up with materialistic and spiritually corrupt individuals ruining this world.
The Holy Ghost pours out his Spirit and brings the increase in the name of Jesus. The latter rain proceeds the second coming and it is what waters the seed. Without the Spirit of God no one is saved. Believe in your idea of Jesus till the end of time, it does little good. You need to accept his ambassador and representative. So when the Holy Spirit shows himself and is rejected that is the unpardonable sin. To grieve the Spirit of God is to reject life.
The supreme witness of Jesus Christ (King David) is reporting for duty.
He was a man whose tongue held no lies,
For he was the direct descendant of our father in the heavenly skies.
Born to a body of fleshy sin,
Though what laid beneath was unlike the rest of his kin.
Jesus had the utmost grace,
Never being wavered by evils face.
He was wise beyond any years,
Performing miracles that would bring crowds to tears.
A beacon of light on top of a starless mountain,
Where words of wisdom poured out of him as if there ran a cosmic fountain.
His eyes pierced through you with a single glance,
Leaving even the most hardened individuals in quite the trance.
The Holy Spirit so ever majestically flowed inside this man,
Naturally people caught notice and became a fan.
Students began showing up from every mold,
When they heard his words their hearts were sold.
Wicked men put a price on Jesus's head,
He was wanted alive or dead.
Despite this he and his disciples continued their teachings,
Where on occasion they endured terrible beatings.
One of the twelve apostles turned to black,
No longer having Jesus's back.
Judas Iscariot had done Satan's bidding,
And it is in hell where he now is sitting.
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our shortcoming,
However don't be saddened for if you believe in him you will see him at your homecoming.
There he sits at the right hand of God's throne,
Being the voice of truth and love that we all have known.
Satan's tongue is coated in a layer of deceit,
And he tramples over promises with his feet.
He's a being who is bound by deceptions,
Whose very essence oozes with misconceptions.
He struggles to look you in your eyes,
For his gaze holds nothing but lies.
On occasion he will give you his hand,
But don't be fooled by his stand.
He seeks to corrupt your heart,
You would be wise to avoid him from the start.
Seeking quick pleasures and casting aside love,
He traverses this land with push and shove.
Now Lucifer was once not lost,
But pride blinded him at a cost.
Disobeying God he waged war,
Becoming detestable to the core.
Today he is the ruler of Earth,
Though for all his power he has no real worth.
However most of us have still been sold,
Giving into sin and becoming cold.
Nearly everyone is a puppet dancing on strings,
Marching to delusion for their unjust kings.
My people have given into lust,
Becoming robots full of rust.
However you my child are the exception,
So when you meet me don't forget to mention.
That you alone have been granted the key,
And before your glory they shall all bend a knee.
P.S.- Not too long ago I was very bitter and destructive. Literally I was covered in blood from head to toe and ripping off nails and things of that nature. In my mind Jesus was against me, he had a vendetta against me which I couldn't account for. Then slowly but surely I started having these revelations, and began delving into the word of God. It seemed like my agony was not in vain. The things which held me back eventually began to propel me forward. The darkness began fading away and an unspeakably bright light was surfacing. Jesus told me that he had to break me in order for me to rediscover who I really was. Sort of like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Today I am almost fully healed in every conceivable way, and things like being a virgin and being covered in scars I strangely enough take much pride in. I took up my cross and followed Christ and in doing so I discovered the greatest love of all.
Amen!!! Pure sanity! thank you Dr. Peterson!
Church really saved me. But I only dared enter one after I had read the Bible. My thought was… “is this that?” 20 something years on I’m so grateful for the amazing people who have loved me though my brokenness. Taught me, pushed me and opened new pathways for me.
There are many amazing churches out there. We need eyes to see the kingdom of God.
Pray and work this stuff out!
Thanks JP
Bless you, Mr. Peterson.
I don't believe in God, but I do like the architectural aesthetics and the somber ambiance of old churches and cathedrals. Regardless of your beliefs, they are places that are very well suited for contemplation and just spending time with yourself...and that's much different from being alone.
Agreed. But the Megacurches in the US that are held in these big confernce room like settings and pastors that act like rock stars, turns me off.
Theres some nice old churches in Toronto I visit often.
Friend, in addition to the architecture, the Gregorian chants are the best, that touch of mystery and divinity is pleasant to hear
Check out Frank Turek, William Lane Craig, Hugh Ross. God bless!
@@honkyjesuseternal I simply rephrased my last sentence as it had come out wrong. what do you mean by "bonus check"?
Nice take on it!!
Thank you for joining us for Mass while you were on campus!
It was Jordan's advice to not lie that gave me the courage to step away from participating at church. The certainty that was expected from me was making me feel weak. Not stronger. The curriculum being taught was extremely hard for me to stand behind. I found myself saying, "the church teaches XYZ" instead of "I think or I believe XYZ" when teaching the youth or my own children.
I only have experience in one particular brand of church, but being in this world of millennial "nones" the script seems to be the same for others leaving other brands of churches.
I like the idea of God. I like the idea of having faith in the good. I've gone down philosophical rabbit holes and I feel like I have to have faith in something to avoid aimless nihilism. However, every time I look into a church they want me to have faith on a set of facts that makes their brand special. When in reality I don't see one brand better than another.
No brand means no common ground I guess. It is kind of paradoxical in my mind. The creeds are what bug me, but it is the creed that brings people together.
So it puts me in a very strange luke warm place and I don't know what to do about it.
I don't like the idea of "rescuing the father" because how do I know I'm not just letting in snakes?
The best I can do is be honest and say I don't participate in any organized religion, but I support others as they aim up, if that involves participating in an organized religion they have my support. Even the one that I no longer participate in.
Any church whose brand, which I would call doctrine, is more important to them than the fundamental tenets of faith that underpin all of them, is off track. Lots of churches are off track. The key is to find one who’s getting it right. I’ve been in the same congregation for 40 years. Most of that time has been great, but our church has veered off the road more than once over those years. Churches are built of people who still demonstrate human characteristics, even if they do share faith in God. The key is to find the right church.
Wow I appreciate your comment so much. Yes I agree you cannot lie and it's better to say you are not convinced by religion regardless of whether you like it or not
He is a very captivating speaker. He keeps you interested in the topic at hand.
2:45 This will be quoted or paraphrased by many, myself included. Great point. "We have to have a woman! But there's no such thing as a woman"
Yes! When it suits the "woke" people, there is merely subjective difference between a man and a woman (biology, science, etc., don't matter), which is why no one should have an issue with the idea of transgenderism. On the other hand, they'll bend over backwards to put a woman in a powerful job just because she's a woman. Definitely insane, but it never occurs to an insane person that they might be insane...
This was a fantastic listen. Thank you! I'll definitely be looking up the full thing through my husband's daily wire account
Thank you so much to put words and develop a true thoughts which go into resonance with the vague intuitions I have !
I am so, so in need of my Catholic beliefs in my daily life. I am a very religious woman created by God. I decided to be baptized Catholic when I was four years old. I left the Church when I was fifteen years old for about four or six months and ended up at a protestant church. I was not happy attending that church Mount Zion church. I left and when back to my Catholic Church. I did my Communion and Confirmation. In October of 1998 I said that I will never, never, ever leave my Catholic faith again. 24 years later I am still thinking and saying the same. I can not be brainwashed when I know the RAW UNFILTERED TRUTH. Now, thank God that I am able to attend The Traditional Latin Mass. God bless you Doctor Peterson. Thank you so much for everything you do. I really appreciate it. I am so thankful for people like you who speaks the truth.
Never leave the Catholic faith! Im with you! God bless you!
I was an ardent atheist for my entire youth. I read Dan Brown from a young age, and couldn't get over the atrocities of the church towards Enlightenment thinkers, Galileo, Giordano Bruno, and the Crusades - which propelled me into the firm grasp of the four horseman and atheist thinkers. Then I saw Aethesim devolve into atheism+. Now not believing in God was a community, and it came with a set of seemingly incoherent values that replaced the dogma of the church with its own faith in progressive ideology.
At a dark point in my life, I came across your lecture series on Genesis and was recommended your book "12 Rules fo Life". Both were life-changing. To approach these didactic fables with optimism, rather than scorn and discontent, I learnt that these institutions I had grown to revile, despite their flaws, had unbelievable importance in preserving Judeo-Christian values. These were the moral bedrock upon which Western tradition was built.
Furthermore, after reading "The Gulag Archipeligo", a suggestion from your reading list, I realized how far into hell a godless nation can fall. When those in charge answer to no one, and the divinity of the individual is forgotten, we raise hell on earth, and that hell is real. Now agnostic, and less judgemental of religious teachings, I see the value of preserving the traditions and culture of the past that has brought us this far. The Pharoh is part culture, part revolution, a delicate balance between order and chaos.
I can no longer call myself an atheist because to hold that blind faith that I have definitive proof no god exists, is to fall into the same trap as the religious fundamentalists. I am open to new information, humbled by my ignorance, and in gratitude for the beauty and wisdom of a culture that transcends mortality from those dead who lived a life in service to something greater than themselves.
the first part of your comment is just hilarious, all of the supposed "attrocities' that the church commited are nothing more than poor 21 century internet conspiracy theories from small western english circles, you would be laughed out by literally every historian in the world for even suggesting that Galileo was persecuted by the church or that the crusades were something other than military campaigns
You know that Dan Brown writes fiction...
@@jotunman627 So did the authors of the bible.
You write well🔥
@@kgakgamatsotsagae6465 thanks ❤️
Good one Mr. Peterson. Thank you for all that you do.
the best 6 minutes and 12 seconds that I spent today. Brilliant!
Love the humor!
This man never ceases to amaze me how brilliant he is!
I love watching these two together. You can tell they are such great friends
It’s so refreshing to hear this man speak!!
To borrow a technique that Dr. Peterson is so fond of: what exactly do you mean by "church"? There are many more kinds of church than Peterson describes in this video. There are many churches in the United States that are the exact opposite of what he describes. There are churches in the United States that weekly sow fear, mistrust, anger, and hatred against anyone who is "other" than they are.
1000% facx
Well, that's for each of us to discriminate. I suggest reading the Bible in an unbiased way (particularly the "New Testament") and comparing its teachings with what religions teach.
A simple test: the Our Father prayer. Jesus teaches there what the most important things are. 'Our Father, may your Name be sanctified'. Look for a church that places the santifcation of God's Name in the FIRST PLACE, above all else. 'May your Kingdom come'. Find a church dedicated to teaching what God's Kingdom is. 'May your will be done on Earth'. Find a church that cares, not about what is socially trendy, or about politics, or about today's moral values, but about GOD'S will. One that upholds His views as written in the Scriptures, even if that goes completely against the current.
This is a fair point. I’m Anglican, formerly evangelical Southern Baptist. The megachurch style of worship that looks like a business conference mixed with opening concert is a far cry from traditional Christian liturgy and worship. When I encourage people to get back into church, especially Christians who have stopped attending, I’m specifically encouraging them to find a traditional church with meaningful worship and, God willing, true preaching.
Don't ever mix the actions of humans for God's doing
I really appreciate this, your content is very truthful and resonates with me. Glad to hear your insights thank you Jordan ❤️🙏🕊️
You are an inspiration and have a beautiful mind, I'm thankful for your insight. It's helped me a LOT 🙏❤️
AMEN on every damn point Dr. Peterson made bro! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Grew up in the church depressed, took a break for a few years, went back and became depressed. Since I left again, i’m no longer depressed.
Life is great as an agnostic.
But eternity won't be.
maybe you went to the wrong church haha
@@jonlanier_ What makes you think "eternity" is a possibility for a human mind?
@@jonlanier_ What is eternity?
@@shenomiya6194 probably.. I went to the same church as David Koresh grew up in Dallas, Tx.
I’m over it now and am more at peace.
Your videos have been instrumental in my return to the Church. Your genesis videos are profound. I would love to hear a similar psychological analysis of the stations of the cross.
I loved that. I loved it, loved it, loved it!
I'm so grateful for my Catholic faith 🙏💛
" Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" - Romans 1:22
Peterson's excellent discussion of religion and particularly Christianity is the reason I became a Christian. Since then, my life has become so much richer. Some of the reason (I think) has to do with simply contemplating the sacred mysteries, even if I don't know if I fully believe in them. I loved Peterson's definition of belief as "acting as if something is true". This is how I approach my religion and I find that it is more useful when approaching the subject of religion and accessing its benefits.
Better chose Buddhism or any other religion.
Thank you for this interview it brings me to tears as I write this …. That it goes further than we think .God give us the strength to defeat this 🙏
Quick question, Jordy....If the church is broken how can we fix it? How can we fix an institution known for claiming they are in posession of absolute truth, meanwhile not only they have absolutely no evidence to support their claims, but their method of arriving to said claims are demonstrably flawed?
Matthew 18 contains that answer. see how the lesson at the end of that chapter, plays into the story of Acts 15. I’m trying to find the answer too, not claiming to know it, but it seems this expression of the democratic process is the purest I’ve ever encountered
Everyone should become Catholic
Also I go to Franciscan University and was at Dr Petersen’s lecture
Love this guy
Join the biggest cult of child molesters in history ? NO WAY.
The Sun is the only true God. Praise the Sun!
I can understand saying that people shouldn’t be Anti-Church. But, it’s a big leap to go from not being against something, to saying that I should therefore do it to. I’m not homophobic but, I’m still straight.
Thank you again
Thank you!
Dr. Peterson, I am praying for your conversion to the Catholic faith and have been for a while now.
By the way, how did your meeting go with Dr. Peter Kreeft?
He met with Kreeft? I wish I were a fly on the wall at that encounter.
He met with Peter Kreeft? Are you pulling our legs? Speak up bro.
@@esterhudson5104 😂 One, I'm a Sis! 😂🤣 Two, I'm not pulling your leg. It's true. I would have to do a search for such video if Peterson has such video.
@@LauraBeeDannon Same here, a fly on the wall in that room with both Docs!
Why are you praying that he is converted to false faith?
I went to church for the first time today because I always avoided it, thinking the institution is broken. I've always been a Christian and this video was literally a Godsent it answered all my questions about the importance of attending church as a Christian. Thank you Mr. Peterson for being a vessel from God and helping other people make sense of this world.
So insightful, J!
Pure GOLD!
I was raised Catholic, and received a very good education in Catholic schools. I began to doubt the faith at age 15, struggled with it, and by 20 concluded that I simply did not believe in the divinity of Jesus, and therefore could not go to church in good conscience.
However, I would be deeply sad if Catholicism withered away and vanished. For all the church’s many, many flaws, it’s provided meaning and stability for billions of people over two millennia. We still need it, just like we still need other ancient religions to endure.
We don't need religion.
Come back, brother. Jesus is God. Your emotions are liars.
Our pastor refers to the church as a “hospital for sinners.” I think that’s a great perspective. The moment you begin to question any aspect of faith is the moment you should be in church, not the moment you leave because you can’t attend in good conscience. We don’t attend because we’re certain or perfect. We attend because we need it.
I once heard Dr. Peterson say something to the effect that people ought not be Christian because they can’t hope to measure up to Christ. I thought that was one point that he utterly failed to understand. We don’t go to church only after we become perfect people-obviously not happening-we go because we need God, need faith, need the church to help lead us to more Christlike lives and stronger faith.
@@PeopleAlreadyDidThis Jesus wouldn't want you to hate gays lol
What you do need is Faith! I believe the teens and young adults are drowning without it. Why else are so many lost in drugs and suicide!!!because they are missing Hope. @@totallyanonymousbish9599
"We have to have a woman.....but there is no such thing as a woman" 😂🤣
I know!!
that whole lecture was really good and funny, i love jonathans laugh
You, too, Dr Peterson. Lead the way!
Orthodox Church is growing every day in the west ☦️
That's good news
It seems that non church goers seem to want this perfect church that is filled with perfectly good people....every man is a sinner so to expect church goers to be perfect is sort of insane. It seems like the most self righteous people are the ones who think they're too "honest", or "noble", to be mixed up with the hypocrites.
Yup. But there too “sophisticated and intellectual” for churches anyway and that’s what really matters to them so who cares. Remember, these are the folks that needed to be told cleaning your room was a good thing, even if no one is watching you do it.😌
Exactly, that's one of the misconceptions that atheists have of christians and the Bible. The Bible teaches humility, not self righteousness.
You can't be a "sinner" if the Law is done away with ya clown. 🤡
Why should I worship your idols?
@@watercave4905 Never heard of an atheist claiming that, can't be to common of a misconception. At least not over here. ^^
@@watercave4905
It also teaches an elder she be above reproach, which basically means without fault.
I say to the students in all sincerity, there is no possible way of attaining a quality or a desired attribute without claiming it. In order for an individual to consciously let go of a thing, he must have something that he feels is stronger to which he can anchor. As students become conscious of this, the confidence and strength will come to them to take the step.
Essentially what he's saying here is that going to church is better for us psychologically. Even if that were the case, that doesn't make one word of what is preached true. I'd rather live in an uncomfortable reality than a comfortable fantasy.
True. As a practicing orthodox Christian, I also feel "using" church solely for living a better life personally or in a community, without actually having a real faith or even as church fathers and orthodox theology insist on having the real experience, is something very damaging to one's soul. I don't understand how we need religion for life on earth, it's not meant for this purpose.
You are free to live as uncomfortablely as you wish. God always gives us choices.
@@sharonleis1365 As long as there's an omnipotent God watching over us, supposedly giving us choices, but punishing us for making the wrong choice, then we aren't really free, are we.
@@davidbroughall3782 perhaps the theology that God can't wait to punish us is wrong. It is man's teaching but the whole bible is, we are made in God's image and he says we are his children whether we believe in him or not.
If you think Christianity is comfortable, you do not understand true Christianity. St. Theodore of Pherme once said, “I have worn the monastic habit for 70 years, and on no day have I found peace.” Orthodoxy thrives in tension and paradox.
As a Catholic, I approve of this message. Haha! But seriously, this was PERFECTLY stated by Dr. Jordan Peterson.
This is the truth!
Thank You Mr.Peterson
Jordan has very advanced ideas and the capability to articulate them, we thank him!
I’m personally agnostic but I was a devout Christian. I prayed everyday & have read through the Bible front to back over 2 times. I was rooted in the church. I was definitely a more selfless & kind man.
I’m agnostic because I don’t believe in the gospel literally. But I still have a profound respect for the timeless wisdom in that book. And I fully support anyone who is Christian because I recognize the benefits.
Edit: By benefits, I mean how it can make people more selfless, kind, humble, wise, etc. I wasn’t claiming that the point of Christianity is to seek self-gain. There’s a lot of “Christians” showing the downsides of religion in this comment section. “Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.” Right? Look at all of you so-called “Christians” casting judgement. Try embodying the book you claim to believe in. Hypocrites.
Praying, reading the bible and going to church does not make you a Christian. Believing that God exists does not make you a Christian. Even the demons believe.
you dont recognize anything if you think its about benefitting
@A.b.s God sees my journey, is with me whether I want him to be or not, and is said to have died on the cross for my sins, then he'd surely forgive the apparent sin of open-mindedness towards other ideas so long as I don't disparage him and his. I would say that I am a Christian but what the meaning of that is to me is between me and my God, I don't need to prove the nature of my faith to anyone besides myself.
Have you considered the manner that you're addressing this apparent ally to your faith is only worsening the reputation of said faith? Because I even as a follower of God, find your methods entirely off-putting. And this goes for the other replies besides yours.
@A.b.s God cannot die. His human son died on the cross for humanity. Because of nonsense like "God died on the cross.." is exactly why there's no power in the gospel being preached today.
Same. I grew up in the church, but I don't believe in the supernatural anymore, partially as a result of watching Harris, Dawkins, and Hitchens in the early 2000s. Over the years however, I have come to the conclusion that getting rid of religion leaves a gaping hole in a society that will either be filled by another religion, or some post-modernist cult. I might have lost my faith in the supernatural, but I can observe that Abrahamic religions do produce a societal stability that a civilization can be built on; not sure if I can say the same for the gender fluid cults popping up in the west now.
"You think religious people are crazy" (Jordan B. Peterson).
Love that:)
Well, they are.
Wow this is so moving to me. I went to Catholic Church with my husband when we met as teenagers. Joined the church in my 20’s. We were very active in the church when we lived in Indiana. When we moved to California in 2003 I tried to find a good fit but it’s not the same here! Unfortunately I quit going and regret it now. I’ve got to go back because I miss it. Your video gave me the kick in the pants that I needed. God bless you Jordan Peterson!🙏🏼❤️
Go check out a local Catholic church
I still love Jordon's use of ' unbelievably' in his descriptions!
If you are a Catholic, the reason one goes to Church is at least two-fold. One is out of the cardinal virtue of justice, that is, rendering to God what He is due which is due worship. Second, out of charity, that is the love of God for His own sake and the love of neighbor for God's sake. Charity is the more perfect of the two reasons and the highest of the theological virtues.
The Sacrifice of the Mass is also the highest form of prayer that the Church can offer and it is a giant part of fulfilling the third commandment: Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.
The Jews used to have the Sabbath on Saturday, it literally means a day of rest. And if I recall, it celebrated both the fact that God rested on the 7th day of creation, as well as, their freedom from slavery thanks to God through Moses. Don't quote me on the latter. But this changed with Christ's coming and thus the Apostles and the Early Church celebrated the Lord's day on Sundays as a reminder of His resurrection.
You are correct.
The Holy Ghost pours out his Spirit and brings the increase in the name of Jesus. The latter rain proceeds the second coming and it is what waters the seed. Without the Spirit of God no one is saved. Believe in your idea of Jesus till the end of time, it does little good. You need to accept his ambassador and representative. So when the Holy Spirit shows himself and is rejected that is the unpardonable sin. To grieve the Spirit of God is to reject life.
The supreme witness of Jesus Christ (King David) is reporting for duty.
He was a man whose tongue held no lies,
For he was the direct descendant of our father in the heavenly skies.
Born to a body of fleshy sin,
Though what laid beneath was unlike the rest of his kin.
Jesus had the utmost grace,
Never being wavered by evils face.
He was wise beyond any years,
Performing miracles that would bring crowds to tears.
A beacon of light on top of a starless mountain,
Where words of wisdom poured out of him as if there ran a cosmic fountain.
His eyes pierced through you with a single glance,
Leaving even the most hardened individuals in quite the trance.
The Holy Spirit so ever majestically flowed inside this man,
Naturally people caught notice and became a fan.
Students began showing up from every mold,
When they heard his words their hearts were sold.
Wicked men put a price on Jesus's head,
He was wanted alive or dead.
Despite this he and his disciples continued their teachings,
Where on occasion they endured terrible beatings.
One of the twelve apostles turned to black,
No longer having Jesus's back.
Judas Iscariot had done Satan's bidding,
And it is in hell where he now is sitting.
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our shortcoming,
However don't be saddened for if you believe in him you will see him at your homecoming.
There he sits at the right hand of God's throne,
Being the voice of truth and love that we all have known.
Satan's tongue is coated in a layer of deceit,
And he tramples over promises with his feet.
He's a being who is bound by deceptions,
Whose very essence oozes with misconceptions.
He struggles to look you in your eyes,
For his gaze holds nothing but lies.
On occasion he will give you his hand,
But don't be fooled by his stand.
He seeks to corrupt your heart,
You would be wise to avoid him from the start.
Seeking quick pleasures and casting aside love,
He traverses this land with push and shove.
Now Lucifer was once not lost,
But pride blinded him at a cost.
Disobeying God he waged war,
Becoming detestable to the core.
Today he is the ruler of Earth,
Though for all his power he has no real worth.
However most of us have still been sold,
Giving into sin and becoming cold.
Nearly everyone is a puppet dancing on strings,
Marching to delusion for their unjust kings.
My people have given into lust,
Becoming robots full of rust.
However you my child are the exception,
So when you meet me don't forget to mention.
That you alone have been granted the key,
And before your glory they shall all bend a knee.
P.S.- Not too long ago I was very bitter and destructive. Literally I was covered in blood from head to toe and ripping off nails and things of that nature. In my mind Jesus was against me, he had a vendetta against me which I couldn't account for. Then slowly but surely I started having these revelations, and began delving into the word of God. It seemed like my agony was not in vain. The things which held me back eventually began to propel me forward. The darkness began fading away and an unspeakably bright light was surfacing. Jesus told me that he had to break me in order for me to rediscover who I really was. Sort of like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Today I am almost fully healed in every conceivable way, and things like being a virgin and being covered in scars I strangely enough take much pride in. I took up my cross and followed Christ and in doing so I discovered the greatest love of all.
People don’t have to give reasons for why they’re not a member of an organization. If you think we should be, you give us reasons why we should be. And, “so you can fix it” isn’t at all convincing, when I don’t care about it, to begin with.
Thank you💯
I gave my life to Jesus at a young age and I will never forget the supernatural experiences that I have received and the amazing gift of salvation with Christ Jesus! I know that I know because of God’s mercy bestowed on to me at a time when I felt so alone and was so very ill. God showed up, rescued me and I am free because of what Jesus did for me on the Cross. He’s so real to me and the only way to describe it is like walking through an open heaven where His glory is everywhere and I feel his unconditional love each time. Hard to describe but so real you’ll never be the same. God is truly love!
Yes it certainly is a metaphysical sort of experience. Wonderful to read your testimony and God bless ✝️
Every Sunday i go to church for a few hours. This is going on for a few weeks and honest to God... My life has changed. I have no ideea why, but trulley my life has changed in a better way, i can feel things differently now and i never thought this is what will happen
your life has changed because you now didn't do what you used to on those Sundays, you lost what hobbies you spent that time on, the friends you spent that time with...
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It's way bigger than that mate
As an atheist, I support the idea of going to church (which I do). I thought I was in an extreme super-minority, so it's nice to find out I'm not alone.
Why do you go?
I also thought it was a minority, you're not alone anymore my friend, by the way, what church do you go to?
This doesn't surprise me and I admire your commitment to support and do what you perceive as good in the world.
I went back to church in my late 20's quaking in my shoes. I was so scared without really knowing why.
I was listening to apologetics which I actually don't like now, but I believe it's a response to a call and I was seeking understanding.
I don't like apologetics because it implies without stating it that you can reason yourself to faith. Reasons to believe help but it's not it. Faith is a gift that God gives and only He knows the moment He will give it. This was actually what I experienced because one moment it wasn't there and the next moment it was and I knew I didn't give it to myself.
For me it happened at a culminating moment when in the face of all the different truths out there, I knew I wasn't qualified to decide which one was It. I just thought that if there's more than one then there can't be one and everything is up for grabs. Maybe I could say it was the moment I realized that only a loving God can Be Truth and endure all the different versions His people can come up with. Maybe it's the moment I realized the truth according to me isn't it and it freed me to let God be God and He ever faithful and good gladly seated Himself on the throne of my heart. :) There's no other explanation.
@@CR-tj4ig I like to think I'm supporting and being a part of the community. I attend what's probably the largest church in the area. I'm certainly not trying to make anyone else into an atheist, and I keep my mouth shut on the subject (except when talking with the head guy, just to explain myself). The community is more important than the individual, and the community is religious. And since it's only the religious who are having children at or above replacement levels, it'll continue to be the case. I prefer to be part of a growing and thriving community than an individual trying to make it on m y own. If the group was Amish or similar, I'd be growing a beard. -- something like that.
Wow, I’m not an atheist but I find myself opposed to nearly all mainstream doctrine. Some of which ,can only be described as pure evil and therefore counter productive to human well being or the ability to worship God. Perhaps you are way more noble than me for being able to set aside your differences .
“A soft and gentle and thoughtful answer turns away wrath, But harsh and painful and careless words stir up anger.”
Proverbs 15:1
Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for opening my eyes to the beauty of The Catholic Faith!