In an episode of Chicago Med, a neurobiologist believed her husband had LBD, and two 2nd opinions agreed. It turned out her husband had a brain tumor and drug side effects that mimicked the symptoms of LBD.
@@stephenking5852 All three of them missed, that is pretty odd... did they discussed the case among themself and came to the conclusion ? Or all 3 diagnosed that individually ? Coz when you are discussing the case, and someone come up with an possible cause, the differential of entire team can get narrower, and differintial starts getting into one particular directions.
I missed clear symptoms of CHF in my mother. After working in referral medicine for 20 years - in cardiology. Duh. Don't work on your family! You just don't see the same way. Objectivity is impossible.
She only became an addict because no one believed she was sick, in extreme pain, and not because she was looking for a good time. Funny how people are much harsher on mothers than fathers when it comes to parenting. Where was the father to help? It’s hard to be a parent being in extreme pain all the time like that. A parent doing the bare minimum because they are sick isn’t the same as parent doing the bare minimum because they are lazy and irresponsible. I never blamed my mother for the things she did when she got cancer because she was sick and in pain from the chemo. For 30 years this woman complained about her pain but all her daughter ever cared about was herself.
They're completely wrong about endometriosis being hard to diagnose, there IS a definitive test for it - an exploratory laparoscopy. It's only "hard to diagnose" because women's pain is dismissed, downplayed, and there's no care given if it involves periods.
That doctor needs a doctor more than her mother. They doesn't even know how to treat and behave with a pathetic addict, treating your mother as a patient is secondary.
As a woman in my late 60's who had endemetriosis & eventually surgery to remove growths - there wasn't any pain relief available, like most women just grin & bear it.
Bloom definitely has a interactive experience with her family which definitely causes issues because bloom doesn’t want to work with them but she is a doctor after all which definitely is good but she definitely gets emotional
it’s also possible for the addiction and the need for pain relief to be true. the mom could take pain pills to avoid the agony of undiagnosed and untreated endometriosis which led to an addiction. pain pills are some of the easiest things to become addicted to without question bc it often starts as a real prescription needed for real pain
… that sounds a little petty to me. Most parents love their children unconditionally, no matter what they do. To the point when their children can even be abusive and toxic but the parents still love them. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just stating facts. And the daughter here wasn’t even behaving out of malice or self-interest, but from feelings of hurt and frustration. You can see and hear the sincerity in her when she apologizes. She even admits the wrong she has done when a lot of people would just be too proud to and just leave it as “sorry” or try to justify themselves. Certainly you have a right to your feelings, but consider other factors before projecting.
@@cardinalbob1 of course, i even tried to state that in my comment. never was i trying to tell you that your opinion was wrong or anything. i'm just stating the facts that support the parents who can still forgive the children. i wasn't saying that it would apply to everyone, and i'm sorry if i left that impression. also, i always try to respect people and their emotions, and i believe no one has any right to shame someone for how they feel. which is especially true for the matter of forgiveness. forgiveness is unique to an individual and no one should ever be forced or pressured into whether or not they are willing to forgive someone.
I have endometriosis and I have to take morphine every 12hours. My left upper abdomen. Is also more swollen than the rest of it and it hurts to touch my abdomen I can't even wear bra with bone. They continue 2 ignore it. Now am thinking might be a cyst
I tookopioids when I was combating long term Lyme Disease and I was in horrific daily pain. They eventually made the pain 90% worse. I switched off them and my pain plummeted 80%. Ditching them saved my life and I kicked the Lyme 90%. Living as best as I could have now
I wonder can she sue her daughter?!😂 Even though it’s a tv show! The daughter was in unprofessional as a doctor! This episode reminds me of the lady who was turned away from the hospital and then the police played her too in the worse way because she later died in their car in the backseat ! She was telling them her chest felt heavy like someone was sitting on her and she was either a drug addicted or an alcoholic but what does that matter if someone comes in your the hospital doctor is supposed to treat us! Or sue! The real doctor was the one who still took the tests!
Women’s pain are dismissed constantly. 40 plus years I lived with chronic appendicitis. Finally out and suddenly pain free after I eat. It’s not in our heads.
Because mother almost always "cried wolf" and got high off pain meds and alcohol for a majority of her childhood. That kinda stuff can traumatize a kid
Nope. Emotional abuse alert. This ‘fake pain’ mom reminds me of my own. And her belittling her daughter IN FRONT of the nurse is purposeful manipulation. Almost teared up at the accuracy. No wonder she screamed-I would have reacted the same when your ABUSER shows up at your professional workplace, where you’ve worked so hard for yourself. If you have or are experiencing emotional abuse-YOU ARE NOT ALONE. ❤
But the pain wasn't fake. Her daughter just refused to listen. And was belitteling her way more than vise versa. She told her several times to just die.
Nope. The daughter is a doctor. If she can't deal with her abuser, she let another doctor to treat them. New Amsterdam is one of the stupidest hospital's dramas I ever saw, and if that situation was in real life, the daughter wouldn't go 10 meters from her PATIENT mother.
@@isasantos8577 Yeah, physically going to interfere with a patients care, assaulting her (the way she snatching something off of her and made physical contact while in bed, ) and threatened someone doing their job. Like even addicts have health problems.
No she isn't. Her mother used alcohol and pills to deal with the pain, and when you're a kid, you shouldn't have to try to understand why your mother is off her face. And she became resentful of her mother. She isn't toxic. She's just a person.
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Mother is clearly resentful, I don’t think it’s a narcissist. I know that everybody believes that parents are always obligated to forgive their children, but nobody’s obligated to forgive anybody. She could’ve definitely behaved more maturely, but daughter should’ve been behaving like a professional, and never gotten involved to begin with. Dr. Manning has a repeated pattern of allowing her emotions to overrule her judgment. On top of that, daughters, actually the narcissist. Immediately, when the other doctor came up to her, she assumed that the doctor was coming up to apologize to her, never looked at her coworkers work, and assumed her incompetent. I know that the show requires a level of suspension of belief, but I can only suspend my belief so far when I have a theory basic understanding of medical law.
That is why when your family member is a patient, you don't get too much involved, coz your bias and emotions will mess up the case...
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In an episode of Chicago Med, a neurobiologist believed her husband had LBD, and two 2nd opinions agreed.
It turned out her husband had a brain tumor and drug side effects that mimicked the symptoms of LBD.
@@stephenking5852 All three of them missed, that is pretty odd... did they discussed the case among themself and came to the conclusion ? Or all 3 diagnosed that individually ? Coz when you are discussing the case, and someone come up with an possible cause, the differential of entire team can get narrower, and differintial starts getting into one particular directions.
The doctor shouldn't even be involved with her mother's care. 😮
I missed clear symptoms of CHF in my mother. After working in referral medicine for 20 years - in cardiology. Duh. Don't work on your family! You just don't see the same way. Objectivity is impossible.
Two things can be true at once: mother having real illness and her being an abusive addict.
Even if there an addict there’s a reason behind it witch they need help with
@@josephpitman1850 And if there is addition, people around are getting hurt
@@marvolom787yeah but need to address the reason they got addicted in the first place
She only became an addict because no one believed she was sick, in extreme pain, and not because she was looking for a good time. Funny how people are much harsher on mothers than fathers when it comes to parenting. Where was the father to help? It’s hard to be a parent being in extreme pain all the time like that. A parent doing the bare minimum because they are sick isn’t the same as parent doing the bare minimum because they are lazy and irresponsible. I never blamed my mother for the things she did when she got cancer because she was sick and in pain from the chemo. For 30 years this woman complained about her pain but all her daughter ever cared about was herself.
They're completely wrong about endometriosis being hard to diagnose, there IS a definitive test for it - an exploratory laparoscopy. It's only "hard to diagnose" because women's pain is dismissed, downplayed, and there's no care given if it involves periods.
That doctor needs a doctor more than her mother. They doesn't even know how to treat and behave with a pathetic addict, treating your mother as a patient is secondary.
30 years. No one’s ever believed me.
As a woman in my late 60's who had endemetriosis & eventually surgery to remove growths - there wasn't any pain relief available, like most women just grin & bear it.
Bloom definitely has a interactive experience with her family which definitely causes issues because bloom doesn’t want to work with them but she is a doctor after all which definitely is good but she definitely gets emotional
Not just that but medical professionals must be objective and make tough decisions for their patients vs family
I feel for the moms pain. I have invisible illnesses and pain etc. I look fine but feel like I'm dying. Don't judge. You don't know.
Well she shouldn't have been neglectful to her daughter then
it’s also possible for the addiction and the need for pain relief to be true. the mom could take pain pills to avoid the agony of undiagnosed and untreated endometriosis which led to an addiction. pain pills are some of the easiest things to become addicted to without question bc it often starts as a real prescription needed for real pain
This is rich considering the doctor is an addict too and that’s one of the many reasons why doctors aren’t supposed to treat their relatives.
Gina Gershan Don't age she's looked the same since Out for Justice and Face Off
The worst kind of betrayal, and sorry doesn’t always cut it.
… that sounds a little petty to me. Most parents love their children unconditionally, no matter what they do. To the point when their children can even be abusive and toxic but the parents still love them. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just stating facts. And the daughter here wasn’t even behaving out of malice or self-interest, but from feelings of hurt and frustration. You can see and hear the sincerity in her when she apologizes. She even admits the wrong she has done when a lot of people would just be too proud to and just leave it as “sorry” or try to justify themselves. Certainly you have a right to your feelings, but consider other factors before projecting.
@@carenxatu5962 You’re entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine.
@@cardinalbob1 of course, i even tried to state that in my comment. never was i trying to tell you that your opinion was wrong or anything. i'm just stating the facts that support the parents who can still forgive the children. i wasn't saying that it would apply to everyone, and i'm sorry if i left that impression. also, i always try to respect people and their emotions, and i believe no one has any right to shame someone for how they feel. which is especially true for the matter of forgiveness. forgiveness is unique to an individual and no one should ever be forced or pressured into whether or not they are willing to forgive someone.
For it to be so hard to diagnose she did it fairly easy
I saw the first two seconds and immediately yelled Gina
Why do so many doctors dismiss this? It is so sad what this condition can do to a woman.
I have endometriosis and I have to take morphine every 12hours. My left upper abdomen. Is also more swollen than the rest of it and it hurts to touch my abdomen I can't even wear bra with bone. They continue 2 ignore it. Now am thinking might be a cyst
I tookopioids when I was combating long term Lyme Disease and I was in horrific daily pain.
They eventually made the pain 90% worse.
I switched off them and my pain plummeted 80%.
Ditching them saved my life and I kicked the Lyme 90%.
Living as best as I could have now
You also cannot deny a patient from getting treatment. Isn’t that illegal??
The er will claim it’s not an emergency and not treat you. It’s happened to my daughter.
I wonder can she sue her daughter?!😂 Even though it’s a tv show! The daughter was in unprofessional as a doctor! This episode reminds me of the lady who was turned away from the hospital and then the police played her too in the worse way because she later died in their car in the backseat ! She was telling them her chest felt heavy like someone was sitting on her and she was either a drug addicted or an alcoholic but what does that matter if someone comes in your the hospital doctor is supposed to treat us! Or sue! The real doctor was the one who still took the tests!
Why isn’t that Dr. Manning never seems to learn not to let her emotions overall.
Women’s pain are dismissed constantly. 40 plus years I lived with chronic appendicitis. Finally out and suddenly pain free after I eat. It’s not in our heads.
Why the daughter doesn’t believe her mother?
Because mother almost always "cried wolf" and got high off pain meds and alcohol for a majority of her childhood. That kinda stuff can traumatize a kid
Nope. Emotional abuse alert. This ‘fake pain’ mom reminds me of my own. And her belittling her daughter IN FRONT of the nurse is purposeful manipulation. Almost teared up at the accuracy. No wonder she screamed-I would have reacted the same when your ABUSER shows up at your professional workplace, where you’ve worked so hard for yourself. If you have or are experiencing emotional abuse-YOU ARE NOT ALONE. ❤
But the pain wasn't fake. Her daughter just refused to listen. And was belitteling her way more than vise versa. She told her several times to just die.
@@suespiria9574 Mother abused her all her childhood. Daughter doesn't owe her anything, especially if mother doesn't apologize
@@DragonGoddess18 except she's a doctor and has to do her job.if she can't do that she doesn't deserve to be a doctor.
Nope. The daughter is a doctor. If she can't deal with her abuser, she let another doctor to treat them. New Amsterdam is one of the stupidest hospital's dramas I ever saw, and if that situation was in real life, the daughter wouldn't go 10 meters from her PATIENT mother.
@@isasantos8577 Yeah, physically going to interfere with a patients care, assaulting her (the way she snatching something off of her and made physical contact while in bed, ) and threatened someone doing their job. Like even addicts have health problems.
Poor daughter
That daughter ia toxic and gaslighter
No she isn't. Her mother used alcohol and pills to deal with the pain, and when you're a kid, you shouldn't have to try to understand why your mother is off her face. And she became resentful of her mother. She isn't toxic. She's just a person.
@@JixieDyeAuthor Yes, she is, listen to her. And let me add, she's also unprofessional. Such behavior excuses no one.
@@JixieDyeAuthor I must say, I think you're one of those woke/leftist people.
Do you mean mother? Because she is the abuser.
no she’s not, if u actually watched new amsterdam ud see that her mother is the toxic one
Gia Gershon she has starred in Such Film as Cocktail 1988 Red Heat 1988 showgirls 1995 Bound 1996 face/Ofd 1997 The lnsider 1999 December 2002 PS I Love You 2007 Five Minarets in New York 2010 Killer Joe 2011 and House of Versace 2013 She has also had Supporting roles in FX's Rescue Me and HBO's How To Make it in America she also portrayed Jughead mom Gladys Jones on The CW teen Drama Series Riverdale American TV Series Teen Drama Mystery and Lauren Bloom mum Jeanie Bloom on The NBC Medical Series New Amsterdam 2018 Tv Series American Medical Drama Television Series and 2019 The Investigation A Search for the Truth in Ten Acts Live reading of excepts from The Mueller Report and Red Shoes and The Seven Dwarfs and 2020 The Mimic and Cagefighter worlds Collide
And Rifkin's Festival and People in Landscape and 2021 With/in Volume 2 and Don't Look Up and 2022 Emily The Criminal ane 2023 Thanksgiving and Gia Gershon She Had Final Film is Borderlands New Film with Actress of Cate Blanchett
Mother is a narcissist
All alcoholics are.
Mother is clearly resentful, I don’t think it’s a narcissist. I know that everybody believes that parents are always obligated to forgive their children, but nobody’s obligated to forgive anybody. She could’ve definitely behaved more maturely, but daughter should’ve been behaving like a professional, and never gotten involved to begin with. Dr. Manning has a repeated pattern of allowing her emotions to overrule her judgment. On top of that, daughters, actually the narcissist. Immediately, when the other doctor came up to her, she assumed that the doctor was coming up to apologize to her, never looked at her coworkers work, and assumed her incompetent. I know that the show requires a level of suspension of belief, but I can only suspend my belief so far when I have a theory basic understanding of medical law.