Imagine creating the perfect alibi for getting away with murder by using someone elses DNA, only to find out the DNA you used was from a wanted but unidentified criminal.
@@laurafabianmarrero According to IMDB: Jolie Peters(1992-2020) Jolie Peters was born on 4 March 1992 in Kingston, N.Y. She was an actress, known for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (1999), Hysterical Blindness (2002) and Till Proven Innocent (2004). She died on 18 November 2020.
@NoHomerS They've actually been trying to get away from using that kind of language in the mental health community. Trying to eliminate stigma by changing language.
Finding the kid in the cooler reminds me of something my Dad used to say if we complained about having to hold his hand, "You're holding my hand until you're too big to be thrown in a duffle bag." Kinda confronting to see it play out.
Honestly, that is a great saying! The amount of parents who don't watch their children public is astounding to me. My mom always said to hold her hand or walk in front of her where she could see me. But I see so many little kids these days walking behind their parents. It's so frightening.
Now that's a REAL question! Would you rather be known as a murderer of your own baby or known as someone who sexually assaults children? You go to jail a lot longer for murder, but you will not last your jail sentence once the inmates find out you sexually abuse children.
This episode reminded me of a case from Forensics Files. A doctor SA'd a former patient of his, but it took her a while to get justice because he was inserting somebody else's blood into his arm to beat a DNA test. It was actually his stepdaughter who saved the day because she came forward and told her mom that he was sexually abusing her.
That was the case of John Schneeberger. He only served a measly four years for the crime thanks to Canada's notoriously lenient laws and was deported back to his native South Africa in 2004, current whereabouts unknown.
@@rs52594 I saw someone else make a comment about this on another sub-comment section. Didn't realize this was from a notorious case. Not gonna lie, but I can definitely see it happening for dude's willing to pay money to beat a paternity test to get out of child support.
I actually really like Langan. He's good at his job and he doesn't really judge anyone, but also he's not hostile to the police or the DA like they are to him. He's respectful and smart
@@mikeyisbombable I love the scene where Olivia officially adopts Noah and Langan is representing them; Mariska and Peter adopted two of their three children!
Unfortunately this case reminded me of one I had in real life as a child protective services worker. When the little girl started crying and broke down in the detectives arms, I was reminded of one of my cases where a child broke down crying after confessing about the abuse she experienced, it took everything in me not to cry with her but to reassure her. I'm happy to report she now lives a completely normal life, one of the few rewards of child welfare.
Not every justice system has those limits, and most that do have exceptions (i.e., certain charges with no limit and/or ways to get the limit waived in certain situations). But the purpose of the statute of limitations is to ensure fair legal action: that defendants are given reasonable ability to defend themselves, and that prosecutors spend their finite resources proportionally.
I had a criminolgy teacher once try to explain the idea of time limits for sexual assault charges was as a way to protect the victim from being exploited and probed by the courts. Victims relive their trauma every time they have to describe what happened to them, and doing so in the court room, to all those strangers, who's job is to critic and pick apart what the person on the stand says adds a whole new layer of trauma. As years go by it gets easier for defense lawyers to argue that the one seeking justice "could be remembering wrong" or "is being led by their lawyer in what to say" and the victim could lose credibility to the jury. So after a certain number of years some justice systems will not allow courts to do that to a person anymore. People who come forward after that amount of time can/are still refered to trauma specialists and support groups for help healing, they just aren't allowed to be seen/spoken to by the courts.
I'm so sorry that happened. I hope you know that you are not alone and there are countless people standing with you. I pray you find the comfort and healing you need.
I'm not a supporter of violent interrogation techniques by law enforcement, I'm a believer of bringing people to justice to answer for their crimes in a Court of Law, but I am a parent who would find it next to impossible to let this guy back up Just as well this is fiction
@@TheKrispyfort The real-life inspiration for the tube sicko is John Schneeberger, Dude just did 4 years out of 6 years, was released in 2004 deported to South Africa, where he is a free man.
I loved how Olivia consulted her hug with that girl, in the beginning of the video. Wow both Elliott and Olivia were spying on Langan’s personal phone call that’s eavesdropping And at the end of the video broke my heart to see that girl. I love this show❤
@@FrenkTheJoy That's why I was obsessed with it as a teen/adult before I had my kids I couldn't deal with it after I had my kids until this year again
Yep! I was just saying that! Here's his Wiki. It's crazy!! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger#:~:text=During%20his%201999%20trial%2C%20Schneeberger,place%20the%20tube%20was%20planted.
As soon as they pulled Courtney out of the cooler everyone on the dock was totally chill with Elliot almost drowning a man in broad daylight. And I agree with that.
"Police brutality? No, Your Honor; I didn't see anything of the sort. Man just fell into the water. Half drowned? Well, he did go in right next to the pier; musta hit his head underwater."
@@alexisgrunden1556except the character uses this same defensw against people who arent actually guilty. And then the idea that cops only hurt bad guys becomes a thing, and its not true.
My heart officially softened 4 Casey Novak the very 2nd she pulled Courtney out of the cooler & took her in her arms. She's very clever & she also looks like she's wonderful w/ handling children.
God, watching these shows makes one horrifically aware of the depths of human depravity. All of us who remain ignorant and untouched by such chilling realities of life should count our blessings with all the fervour our hearts and minds are capable of.
they’re so annoying being mad that casey came to the scene, jesus also inserting a vial of someone’s blood right on top of the vein that you think the dr will take it from can go wrong in 100 different ways😂😂😂
"Okay, I didn't find a good vein on that arm so using the other arm or Doing a hand stick with a butterfly needle today" and he would have been screwed. . . . . . .
@@blackdandelion5549 Most likely the doc would have missed the “vial” by like a milliliter anyway. Or worse, his skin would have mounted an inflammatory reaction and his arm would have necrosed within a few days😭
It always hurts my soul when I see Elliot have to leave the presence of a victim. He knows it’s not him they’re scared of but understands. It just hurts my heart for him because all he wants to do is help
We’re in 2024 and I’m watching this clip on UA-cam, gripped to my seat in suspense… and I’m sure it’s just as good as when it came out on TV decades ago. Good storytelling just transcends time and space. Glad I found this show.
If he were smart, he would have taken his own blood a second time and use the DNA mismatch at trial to cause enough reasonable doubt. No one knew the blood test wasn't his, which would call into question the test itself.
Christopher meloni acting is a1. The glee and satisfaction he portrays when he gets to tell the pedos they are caught always gets to me. No one on the show portrays that emotion well enough. Only other thing as satisfying on this show is when benson sits there and deduces everything with her amazing mind. She is one fantastic detective. By the book but not scared to skirt the line. Her and stablers dynamic will never be able to be replicated without coming off forced.
No crime should go old. If you commit a crime, especially serious one, it should be just as possible to arrest and convict you even if it was lifetime ago.
His MO was using honey, and he not only has an open shelf FILLED with honey at his home, but a boat called the “Honey Do”? Does this guy have nothing else going on?
5:42-5:53. Got into law and order SVU back in 2021 and watched many episodes. Out of all the episodes I have watched this has got to be the most graphic thing I ever heard on this show; it’s disgusting.
the most graphic for me was actually hearing the screams of a young girl being r*ped while Olivia was being held at gunpoint in another room. That's when I stopped watching, that was just completely traumatizing.
I don't think you've seen any episodes lol they've gone way farther with much more detailed, lengthier, and emotional descriptions of perverted and sadistic acts. And about 80% of those involve teens, children, and even babies
@@bernardsoul5186 like I said, I started watching SVU 3 years ago; I have been missing out on a great show like this in the 20 yrs since its debut. It is obvious I haven’t seen everything. The hell is your problem?
Holy crud, how young they look. Although most look about the same in some ways. I don't want to disparage current SVU, but... The gallows humor, the lack of an overt message, not shying away from how much a creep the perp is but also not over selling it. Subtlety and undertones are missing from a lot of shows these days though.
Having worked in law enforcement myself, there is absolutely no way coming across a newborn baby like that you could pick up towel and like those two just talk. And I would defy anyone to say that “it happens”, when something like this is found enforcement would have to step back and take at least a couple breaths before they could continue. So that initial reaction I think was not a good way to betray real life.
What's funny is this episode completely switches both the crime being investigated and the perp we're after midway through. The doctor was responsible for the dead baby and mother from the start of the episode. He stole a patients blood(honey guy) to dodge that about midway through the episode, ends up accidentally tying himself to those cold cases. Stuck in a rock and a hard place he tells his lawyer what happened and then plans to flee the country(they'll know he's not the kiddy diddler, and if they can't get his real blood they can't tie him to the family murder), but the honey guy finds him first and kills him so everybody thinks he's dead(which ironically did the opposite since it gave pasted the guys DNA everywhere and ended the search for him). Then the last chunk of the episode is about tracking down and stopping Honey Guy...who again, had nothing to do with the crime we started the episode with.
I'm confused about what he said. I'm not very accurate with every law, but i've heard of people being arrested for crimes they've committed 25-35 years ago.
Who shot the dermatologist? The wife, the honey creep, or someone else? I understand that he was tied to the original dead newborn/dead mother case, but why did he get shot?
Honey Guy killed him. The Dr WAS guilty of killing the mom and baby, and got himself in a catch 22 by using a criminals blood for his ruse. He called his lawyer to tell him the test was bogus and he was fleeing the country(that’s why he was back at his place). Before he could leave or the cops could get to him, Honey Guy came to his address and killed him, that way they’d think he was dead and he’d be scott free. Ironically that just lets them discover the doctors ruse and narrow in on him.(had he not intervened the doctor would have fled the country and all the resources would be after him)
An officer couldn't do that even if the situation permitted it the case would have been dismissed even though it's a heinous crime because he water boarded the suspect
No it wouldn't have the police department in the city can be sued if he could prove it but he would STILL be nailed for CP, kidnapping, r*ping a minor, etc..
At the end, Detective Benson stands still, deliberately NOT turning around or looking behind her to see what Detective Stabler is up to. If the bad guy needed assistance, she wasn't there to offer any. Sucks for him.
Imagine creating the perfect alibi for getting away with murder by using someone elses DNA, only to find out the DNA you used was from a wanted but unidentified criminal.
and he can't exonerate himself of the other criminal's crimes without all but confessing he committed the crime he did do.
karma
This is a true story
Saw it on forensic files
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I remember this episode, pretty ironic that he tries to cheat the paternity test only to inadvertently use a child rapist's blood.
If that's not karma, I don't know what is
Believe it, or not, the tube in the arm has actually happened.
@@judahschultzwas it effective?
yes until they found out about it lol@@NoHomerS
John Schneeberger, right?@@judahschultz
Man, early SVU was so good. It was a real team effort. The little girl who played Molly played her role well. RIP to the actress.
Wait little Molly die?
What is her name??
@@laurafabianmarrero According to IMDB:
Jolie Peters(1992-2020)
Jolie Peters was born on 4 March 1992 in Kingston, N.Y. She was an actress, known for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (1999), Hysterical Blindness (2002) and Till Proven Innocent (2004). She died on 18 November 2020.
@@DravenGal ohhh thank You
@@DravenGalShe was also in the original series, S 10 E 2? She put a battery into the mouth of a boy she killed and pulled his pants down..
@@ValdezJu Brutal!
Sad fact: Jolie Peters who portrayed Molly, unfortunately, passed away after a battle with depression in 2020. She was 28. 💔
That poor woman. May she find peace.
She killed herself? So sad 😢. Suicide is not a mental health treatment, people!
Had no clue sad😢
Wow! She was the same age as my cousin Matthew who passed away last year and he took his own life as well.
@NoHomerS They've actually been trying to get away from using that kind of language in the mental health community. Trying to eliminate stigma by changing language.
Finding the kid in the cooler reminds me of something my Dad used to say if we complained about having to hold his hand, "You're holding my hand until you're too big to be thrown in a duffle bag." Kinda confronting to see it play out.
I think I like your dad.
Honestly, that is a great saying! The amount of parents who don't watch their children public is astounding to me. My mom always said to hold her hand or walk in front of her where she could see me. But I see so many little kids these days walking behind their parents. It's so frightening.
Way to go, dad!
I like your dad already!
Jesus! That’s fairly graphic
Now that's a REAL question! Would you rather be known as a murderer of your own baby or known as someone who sexually assaults children? You go to jail a lot longer for murder, but you will not last your jail sentence once the inmates find out you sexually abuse children.
I don't think you would fare much better if they found out you were a baby killer.
There are a ton of parents in jail
A reputation will often determine how many enemies you make in jail.
There’s lots of cho-mos in jail
Bahaha that for the "Cards against Humanity".😂😂
I miss BD Wong. They don’t have a psychologist expert on the show today… wish they still did.
Yeah they really didn’t want to pay other people I hate what they did to the cast
I miss Wong & Warner.
Why he left?! I love his character
@@princesscarodmI think money. Actors get shafted badly still.
I think Rollins will be back as a profiler (a la mindhunters)
This episode reminded me of a case from Forensics Files. A doctor SA'd a former patient of his, but it took her a while to get justice because he was inserting somebody else's blood into his arm to beat a DNA test. It was actually his stepdaughter who saved the day because she came forward and told her mom that he was sexually abusing her.
That was the case of John Schneeberger. He only served a measly four years for the crime thanks to Canada's notoriously lenient laws and was deported back to his native South Africa in 2004, current whereabouts unknown.
That’s the most ridiculous science I’ve ever heard
I remember that episode, I actually immediatley thought of that case when I saw the tube being pulled out of the arm.
@@rs52594 I saw someone else make a comment about this on another sub-comment section. Didn't realize this was from a notorious case.
Not gonna lie, but I can definitely see it happening for dude's willing to pay money to beat a paternity test to get out of child support.
@@rs52594oh no not my country doing bad to a monster
I actually really like Langan. He's good at his job and he doesn't really judge anyone, but also he's not hostile to the police or the DA like they are to him. He's respectful and smart
And he defended Liv once.
@@NoHomerSI love how that’s Mariska’s husband in real life too
@@mikeyisbombable I love the scene where Olivia officially adopts Noah and Langan is representing them; Mariska and Peter adopted two of their three children!
@@mikeyisbombableoh wow I had no idea!
"Please, tell me that's a baby doll." Well, you got the baby part right. 😪
My nickname in high school was baby doll, for obvious reasons. My other nickname was Cholula Sauce, also for obvious reasons. Wink
So sad 😢
Ok Lenny Briscoe, lol
@@ameliabedelia7018I loved that book when I was younger
Ayyo 😂
Unfortunately this case reminded me of one I had in real life as a child protective services worker. When the little girl started crying and broke down in the detectives arms, I was reminded of one of my cases where a child broke down crying after confessing about the abuse she experienced, it took everything in me not to cry with her but to reassure her. I'm happy to report she now lives a completely normal life, one of the few rewards of child welfare.
Absolute respect for you my man!
You cannot testify to “completely normal”. So much of the harm cannot be seen.
That hesitation Stabler has at 12:15 where he seems almost disappointed they found the girl because it means he needs to pull the perp up...
Hahaha. Yeah. He was thinking just to wait another minute or two . . . Or 5.
Yup I agree
He was a freaking maniac. I can't believe the amount of police brutality he got away with smh. And against suspects who didn't do the crime too smh.
There should be no time limit to be able to arrest someone.
Not every justice system has those limits, and most that do have exceptions (i.e., certain charges with no limit and/or ways to get the limit waived in certain situations). But the purpose of the statute of limitations is to ensure fair legal action: that defendants are given reasonable ability to defend themselves, and that prosecutors spend their finite resources proportionally.
I had a criminolgy teacher once try to explain the idea of time limits for sexual assault charges was as a way to protect the victim from being exploited and probed by the courts. Victims relive their trauma every time they have to describe what happened to them, and doing so in the court room, to all those strangers, who's job is to critic and pick apart what the person on the stand says adds a whole new layer of trauma. As years go by it gets easier for defense lawyers to argue that the one seeking justice "could be remembering wrong" or "is being led by their lawyer in what to say" and the victim could lose credibility to the jury. So after a certain number of years some justice systems will not allow courts to do that to a person anymore. People who come forward after that amount of time can/are still refered to trauma specialists and support groups for help healing, they just aren't allowed to be seen/spoken to by the courts.
@@leahkent3915yet there's countless metoo liars who came forward 15 to 30 years later and the man is immediately seen as guilty
Most criminal charges have no statues of limitations. I don't know about new York but most of the country can arrest you no matter how long it's been
@@leahkent3915not only that as time goes on evidence may not be there.
I've been sexually abused and this made me cry. I do not cry easily. Wtf is wrong with some people that they would ever do this to a child?!
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I'm so sorry that happened. I hope you know that you are not alone and there are countless people standing with you. I pray you find the comfort and healing you need.
It was NOT your fault 💜
Same here. I was 11.
I’m so sorry
I'm not a supporter of violent interrogation techniques by law enforcement, I'm a believer of bringing people to justice to answer for their crimes in a Court of Law, but I am a parent who would find it next to impossible to let this guy back up
Just as well this is fiction
Realistic fiction
What would Jack Bauer do?
It seems a little different when you have 100% proof
@@timh8324 yes, but why deny the offender the chance of gen pop?
@@TheKrispyfort The real-life inspiration for the tube sicko is John Schneeberger, Dude just did 4 years out of 6 years, was released in 2004 deported to South Africa, where he is a free man.
This episode was crazy ! The twist was so good. Man those early 2000 episodes were so much better than today’s.
Facts
I haven't watched since Elliott left.
Older stuff is often better. In general. Despite the stereotype that EVERYTHING old is bad.
@@Brendan-ny3vbthat's not a stereotype at all
Facts.
''Executed? A little ahead of schedule.'' Man that was ice cold.
I loved how Olivia consulted her hug with that girl, in the beginning of the video.
Wow both Elliott and Olivia were spying on Langan’s personal phone call that’s eavesdropping
And at the end of the video broke my heart to see that girl.
I love this show❤
Really? Snooping? If that's snooping all of police work is basically snooping
Eavesdropping, but not illegal; the call was being taken in a public place, in plain view.
@@soren3569 I get it. You're right.
Consulted her hug?
Stabler disappointed everyone by pulling him back up
I'm sure he disappointed himself.
@@foolslayer9416he would have lost his career and chances to save others,which is worse
Turns out we cant encourage extrajudicial killings.
@@Illier1I still believe in private justice.
If it were me, the consequences would be worth it… which is why I’m not a cop.
In the beginning of the episode, it was said that this episode was actually inspired by a true incident. Really sad stuff
Uh pretty much all of the Law & Order episodes are inspired by true cases.
@@FrenkTheJoy That's why I was obsessed with it as a teen/adult before I had my kids I couldn't deal with it after I had my kids until this year again
The part with the doctor putting someone else's blood in his arm is based on a real case in Canada. Look up John Schneeberger.
Yep! I was just saying that! Here's his Wiki. It's crazy!!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger#:~:text=During%20his%201999%20trial%2C%20Schneeberger,place%20the%20tube%20was%20planted.
I read about that case on a magazine. The victim was a woman and she had to fight very hard for many years to get justice.
As soon as they pulled Courtney out of the cooler everyone on the dock was totally chill with Elliot almost drowning a man in broad daylight. And I agree with that.
I love how Elliot slowed down as soon as the guy fell in. He wanted to be the one to interrogate him.
At least finding Courtney had nothing to do with Nestler giving up the info under torture.
"Yeah I don't know. He was fighting me real hard so in the struggle I accidentally kept him down for too long."
"Police brutality? No, Your Honor; I didn't see anything of the sort. Man just fell into the water. Half drowned? Well, he did go in right next to the pier; musta hit his head underwater."
@@alexisgrunden1556except the character uses this same defensw against people who arent actually guilty. And then the idea that cops only hurt bad guys becomes a thing, and its not true.
Seriously love the condensed structure of the episodes. thx for the editing!!
My heart officially softened 4 Casey Novak the very 2nd she pulled Courtney out of the cooler & took her in her arms. She's very clever & she also looks like she's wonderful w/ handling children.
Wow, a clip that actually hits the hi lights of the episode? Maybe I’ll check out a full episode.
i know right? first time watching these clips where i actually get the whole story
That poor guy on the dock, just trying to have a nice time fishing with his young son.
lol that's amazing. try to walk free from killing a mother and newborn baby, got detained for molesting a kid.
Should not have pulled him up at the end there.
Think of it this way. If he dies his troubles are all over. Meanwhile when he goes to prison he'll be mister popularity
He kills him and a cop goes to prison with a target on his back. Ik we all hate these bastards but try and think in these situations.
Too many witnesses
Who is going to believe him? Besides, during that period they didn't care about police brutality.
@@ciobalina7445 No such thing in cases like this.
Nice and horrible foreshadowing with Olivia saying “it’s okay honey” as she comforts the poor girl
I’ve seen this episode so many times. This is the first episode that we were introduced to Casey Novak (my favorite lawyer on SVU).
I liked her the very second I saw her. She sure knows how 2 take crime seriously.
Same. I also love Cabot but Novak was my favorite.
God, watching these shows makes one horrifically aware of the depths of human depravity. All of us who remain ignorant and untouched by such chilling realities of life should count our blessings with all the fervour our hearts and minds are capable of.
Poor dr always leave Elliot with nightmares every time he explains something
they’re so annoying being mad that casey came to the scene, jesus
also inserting a vial of someone’s blood right on top of the vein that you think the dr will take it from can go wrong in 100 different ways😂😂😂
"Okay, I didn't find a good vein on that arm so using the other arm or Doing a hand stick with a butterfly needle today" and he would have been screwed. . . . . . .
@@blackdandelion5549 Most likely the doc would have missed the “vial” by like a milliliter anyway. Or worse, his skin would have mounted an inflammatory reaction and his arm would have necrosed within a few days😭
And yet it's a real thing that a doctor did successfully for a bit en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger
Jesus, the Name above all names!
Do I sense a flashback of Spike TV's 1000 ways to die come on?
The first appearance of ADA Casey Novak.
It always hurts my soul when I see Elliot have to leave the presence of a victim. He knows it’s not him they’re scared of but understands. It just hurts my heart for him because all he wants to do is help
Elliot somehow found The hidden leaf village and learned drown-a-bitch-no-jutsu
Elliot was always a little unhinged and i love it 😂
Unstabler
We’re in 2024 and I’m watching this clip on UA-cam, gripped to my seat in suspense… and I’m sure it’s just as good as when it came out on TV decades ago. Good storytelling just transcends time and space. Glad I found this show.
If he were smart, he would have taken his own blood a second time and use the DNA mismatch at trial to cause enough reasonable doubt. No one knew the blood test wasn't his, which would call into question the test itself.
The doctors could say he has chimerism. It is a rare condition when someone's body carry two different sets of DNA.
Plus I think that would’ve implicated him on the original child murder case so he couldn’t do that.
Have you found the flaw in your logic yet?
i always love when Stabler walks away because he knows to let Benson handle it
Man I remember this episode , definitely a favourite and the twist of the tube I didn’t see coming
Do u find out who killed the other guy?
When Casey found the girl in the cooler l could almost see the scoff in her face toward Oliva when she tried to take Kortney away from her.
My first thought as soon as they spotted him was "the girl is in the cooler," 😂 It's ridiculous they didn't check that first
Christopher meloni acting is a1. The glee and satisfaction he portrays when he gets to tell the pedos they are caught always gets to me. No one on the show portrays that emotion well enough. Only other thing as satisfying on this show is when benson sits there and deduces everything with her amazing mind. She is one fantastic detective. By the book but not scared to skirt the line. Her and stablers dynamic will never be able to be replicated without coming off forced.
Hold up that man that opened the door later became a suspect in a school shooting (racial motivated) in later episodes. I love full circle moments
Yes, many actors have been recycled in the show/L&O universe. Some became prominent recurring characters.
No crime should go old. If you commit a crime, especially serious one, it should be just as possible to arrest and convict you even if it was lifetime ago.
“She okay?”
“She’s alive.”
* that look passes between them *
Devastating implication
Elliot don’t mess around 😂
He did
He pull the guy head out of the water 😂😂😂
@@laurafabianmarrero 😂😂😂
His MO was using honey, and he not only has an open shelf FILLED with honey at his home, but a boat called the “Honey Do”?
Does this guy have nothing else going on?
Only thing missing was him wearing a red shirt with no pants…
Sometimes people make their "quirks" a trait
Serial grapist
part of me was expecting him to be a beekeeper
😂😂😂
Why do they aways shout “don’t move”? I don’t think that’s ever stopped someone from running
This was Novak's first case btw
But not Diane Neal’s first episode
The set design is great: the cabinet of honey is so gross with context but so mudane without it. And the guy names his boat "the honey dew"
I know this is fiction but I know there's a certain place in hell for people who kill their own children.
You know something, you're absolutely right.
5:42-5:53. Got into law and order SVU back in 2021 and watched many episodes. Out of all the episodes I have watched this has got to be the most graphic thing I ever heard on this show; it’s disgusting.
I literally feel physically sick after listening to that.
the most graphic for me was actually hearing the screams of a young girl being r*ped while Olivia was being held at gunpoint in another room. That's when I stopped watching, that was just completely traumatizing.
@@trippingandbrowsing1269that’s Damm good tv right there keeping it real
I don't think you've seen any episodes lol they've gone way farther with much more detailed, lengthier, and emotional descriptions of perverted and sadistic acts. And about 80% of those involve teens, children, and even babies
@@bernardsoul5186 like I said, I started watching SVU 3 years ago; I have been missing out on a great show like this in the 20 yrs since its debut. It is obvious I haven’t seen everything. The hell is your problem?
Unlucky for the poor doc, lucky in regards to the other case.
Don’t feel sorry for the doctor, he murdered the woman and the newborn
not unlucky, he still killed the mother and infant
Uhhh
Watching this at night, it's just so chilling. That hand looks so real.
Why were they hostile to the lawyer/prosecutor in this episode ? I've seen a lot of clips where she's buddy with them.
I guess evil attracts evil.
It does.👹👹👹
Holy crud, how young they look. Although most look about the same in some ways.
I don't want to disparage current SVU, but... The gallows humor, the lack of an overt message, not shying away from how much a creep the perp is but also not over selling it. Subtlety and undertones are missing from a lot of shows these days though.
This episode is the one that disturbed me the most. 😬
Fun Fact: The tube in the arm is from a real case.
i guess you havent seen william lewis
Really? You must be confusing it with the other two Law & Order shows
Having worked in law enforcement myself, there is absolutely no way coming across a newborn baby like that you could pick up towel and like those two just talk. And I would defy anyone to say that “it happens”, when something like this is found enforcement would have to step back and take at least a couple breaths before they could continue. So that initial reaction I think was not a good way to betray real life.
The fact that I JUST watched this episode! ❤
sorry but 11:44 had me do a triple take... lord have mercy
LMAO!!! yes.
Not me here hitting the time stamp over and over 😂🔥🍑
What's funny is this episode completely switches both the crime being investigated and the perp we're after midway through.
The doctor was responsible for the dead baby and mother from the start of the episode. He stole a patients blood(honey guy) to dodge that about midway through the episode, ends up accidentally tying himself to those cold cases. Stuck in a rock and a hard place he tells his lawyer what happened and then plans to flee the country(they'll know he's not the kiddy diddler, and if they can't get his real blood they can't tie him to the family murder), but the honey guy finds him first and kills him so everybody thinks he's dead(which ironically did the opposite since it gave pasted the guys DNA everywhere and ended the search for him). Then the last chunk of the episode is about tracking down and stopping Honey Guy...who again, had nothing to do with the crime we started the episode with.
elliot just broke some laws trying to drown the suspect
10:36 Ok, there's your disturbing evidence.
I'm confused about what he said. I'm not very accurate with every law, but i've heard of people being arrested for crimes they've committed 25-35 years ago.
The honey part is like what we're hearing about right now with P Diddy's baby oil.
This is one of my favorite episodes. I miss the days when SVU still had some integrity.
STADLER: "The next time you go down, you're not coming back up again." ((To CASEY)) "Just saving the DA's office the cost of a trial, Counsellor."
Stabler not Stadler lol
Who shot the dermatologist? The wife, the honey creep, or someone else?
I understand that he was tied to the original dead newborn/dead mother case, but why did he get shot?
Honey Guy killed him.
The Dr WAS guilty of killing the mom and baby, and got himself in a catch 22 by using a criminals blood for his ruse.
He called his lawyer to tell him the test was bogus and he was fleeing the country(that’s why he was back at his place). Before he could leave or the cops could get to him, Honey Guy came to his address and killed him, that way they’d think he was dead and he’d be scott free. Ironically that just lets them discover the doctors ruse and narrow in on him.(had he not intervened the doctor would have fled the country and all the resources would be after him)
@@kalkuttadrop6371 You’re a hero for this
@@ISayThingzbecause he knows how to use Wikipedia? Wow
Casey is so going to get him locked up for everything she can after carrying that girl. That memory will stick with her.
Stabler was / is one of the best cops out there. Knows what laws to break / bend and knows when he can intimidate vs comfort suspects for information.
I love a good mystery and this show never disappoints!
Good lord Casey's hair was something else.
I always liked Elliot’s character. He was an old-school beat down cop.
An officer couldn't do that even if the situation permitted it the case would have been dismissed even though it's a heinous crime because he water boarded the suspect
Prove it
No it wouldn't have the police department in the city can be sued if he could prove it but he would STILL be nailed for CP, kidnapping, r*ping a minor, etc..
That’s assuming the suspect tells anyone.
Stabler says it never happened. Who you gonna believe?
@@billcook4768the DA was literally standing right there lol
The worst part is that this is not fiction,the stories are based on real cases.this actually happens to people.how evil is that?
lol at that big guy playing a different character than the skin head from “Raw”
i can´t believe that after a long time you can´t put someone behind the jail
the worst is that this type of man have kids
Um, did you not watch? He did not have kids
Wait so who killed the first girl and dumped her baby ?
the guy who was suspected in the first place
the dude who got shot in the back of his head
The dermatologist- that’s why he did the blood fraud.. not knowing that he couldn’t have chosen a worse candidate to steal blood from
I think it’s the guy who was shot in the back of his head. I didn’t get who shot him though 🫤
@@tweety25m I think it was his wife - thinking her husband was guilty of attacking children and possibly theirs
No it was the pedophile. He need to cover his tracks and he grabbed that little girl on the way out.
I kind of love how Elliot contemplates leaving the dude under for a sec. I certainly would.
That was Novak's first episode.
I remember this episode freaked me out as a kid
This crime should have no time limit
This was a good episode 😊
At 11:38, Wipeout!
At the end, Detective Benson stands still, deliberately NOT turning around or looking behind her to see what Detective Stabler is up to. If the bad guy needed assistance, she wasn't there to offer any. Sucks for him.
These shows always have like a trillion twists
Why did they treat the DA like that?
What a crazy episode!
SVU used to be so good.
why were they mad at the ADA?
Cause she was defending that piece of trash
She was new and was pretty much getting in the way. It made it more realistic to make her do green shite.
That pushing his head under water can lose them that case. That is about the clearest form of police brutality.
Only if he'd told them any relevant information during said dunking
That may be but the kid being in his cooler that was in his possession is the topper.
@@TheKrispyfort Nope.
Wow I don't know how you saw that. I saw Elliot trying to pull him up and he was trying to escape. 😂
Law and order has so much police brutality and glorifies them too 😭
Elliott said don't make a liar out of me.... he's not coming up😅
Fun fact: drowning in salt water is just like drowning in to it own blood.
I remember this show as a child
one of the only teaser that we see the ending!
They all just gonna ignore their colleague torturing a suspect?
"Please tell me thats a baby doll"
Well it technically is. Eeeeeeehh
Rest easy, Jolie.