A Conversation with the Police - Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man Ep. 9
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2020
- Emmanuel Acho sits down with police officers from the Petaluma Police Department in Petaluma, CA. They discuss polarizing topics like defunding the police, Black Lives Matter, and accountability in the police force surrounding the tragic deaths of black civilians. This is not a conversation you want to skip!
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A panel of all black cops would be interesting, it has to be an interesting time to wear a uniform.
Yes! I want an episode with BIPOC and POC law enforcement.
DEAD ASS!!!
Really cuz they’re getting a bunch of hate too. No slack.
That would be very interesting as they have a unique perspective on the issue
That’s a great idea:-)
“an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure” beautifully said, my god
Yes, Ben Franklin 1736
It depends what you do to prevent it.
@@markthomas8610 what do you mean
@@markthomas8610 in this case what you’re saying makes no sense
You do realize he didn’t come up with that right?
"Proximity breeds care. Distance breeds fear." Right on! Brilliant.
The deep south of the USA were the highest concentration of Black people live: *_nervous sweating_*
Yeah… no.
TRUTH!!!!!!!!
@@pbjsilverstudio4882 not truth. The south eastern United States has the highest black and brown population in United States and yet that is where the most bigotry happens.
Something not right there.
“What do you feel when…” is a brilliant way to start a conversation and get to know someone. You learn a lot more about someone when you ask what do you feel rather than what do you think.
This discussion is a brilliant idea, we need alot more discussions like this on tv seen by as many people as possible
What is wrong with you too? Did you just come from 40 years ago? As much as it works on TV we’re all kind of expecting that at this point.
“Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear. And because there’s not enough proximity, there’s a lack of care or a lack of empathy and a heightened amount of fear.”
This should be painted everywhere
@ Probably not so much as WHO, but WHAT is fostering lack of proximity. The current system of how neighborhoods are policed needs to change in order to foster trust from the community. Back in the early 20th century, cops walked their beat, not casually drive through it in a police cruiser; it’s the latter system that needs to go away and bring back walking the beat. Cities have grown exponentially since the 1930s, so police could drive their cruisers to their beat, aka community, and then rove the neighborhood. Stopping to talk to the people at their level and on their turf will foster the trust that is so absent today.
@@theresareineke6753 The cops that police a given neighborhood should mirror the residents. Black neighborhoods should have Black cops. Ppl tend to care more about what happens to ppl who look like them. It's in our psyches, at this point. It'll take more to change our collective psyches than it would to simply match demographics between cops & patrolled neighborhoods
@@ampollard7041 You could be right, but the other part of my psyche believes mixing will open dialogue in neighborhoods. I would agree that at this point, African Americans have such a distrust of white police that, at least initially, that might be the way to go. Good point, though!
@@theresareineke6753 Mixing has done nothing for Our betterment since integration became legal. We were much better off in our Tulsa, OK & the likes.
This is the type of training our cops needed but so many never got.
not even so many, none. no police got this training.
Lmao training no white ppl just indulge with blk ppl that simple maybe go play ball with a group of blk and please don't blame blk because from birth we are surrounded around white ppl in all aspects of life
Training? You mean sit down with a black man? I do agree that the police need more training but I don’t think sitting down with a black man is the answer.
@@dallashicks7473 i think the training refers to cultural competence and deescalation training, understanding that black culture and white culture are different, the black experience and white are different, even the suburban experience vs the rural vs urban, rich vs poor, so u need to understand how certain people will perceive you and the appropriate way to approach the situation as a result. And learn ways to de-escalate to reduce tension so the situation doesn’t become dangerous. And even knowing the history, like watching that chicago 7 movie that the officer referred to. Being informed on how we got here could play a major role in improving community relations
@@Wwetitanfan27 I don’t see how learning the culture would help but ok
Emmanuel Acho's way of expression is beyond commendable. This guy got his ideas across in an intellectual/respectful manner in a way which I thought was great.
White boy, former country kid, Christian, conservative with blue and green family here ... any race and religion can run up to me for help, my family feels the same and I will firmly believe that myself or my kids cand do the same to anybody different from us. Thank you for the video ... let's do this!
The worst part about this is, the people who need to watch this with an open mind, won't ever see it.
Going from closed-minded to open-minded on a particular subject isn't an instantaneous event. It's a slow process, so you're not going to see it until people reflect on their closed-mindedness from the past.
@@davidpadilla1354 that may have been the wildest thing I've ever heard in my life
@@davidpadilla1354 First United Crystal Methodist church, eh buddy?
It's just a loosely strung together list of conspiracy theories and random phrases from the bible. About the only thing I agreed with was praise God. The rest was scary. Like does your family know you haven't been taking your meds?
I reported the comment, hopefully that garbage stays gone
I think the cops were afraid to talk and be honest. They seem to be trying. At least they showed up.
they do have a camera in their face ;)
That's why it's called uncomfortable conversations with a black man
i mean to be fair.. even if they were telling the truth and were honest. would people stop to believe them? probably not with everything going on.
They have to be guarded to not say something that could be misinterpreted by the public. I hope that they were able to be more open and vulnerable off camera and it could be an eye opening moment.
I don’t think they were afraid to talk or be honest at all. They seemed like they wanted to be careful with their words and well spoken so individuals can’t pretend to misunderstand them on purpose.
What this man is doing for our country on this channel is absolutely priceless... It's impossible to quantify the amount of positive that comes out of good-hearted and well intentioned dialogue.
Thank you sir!
Thank you all so much for your bravery. Thank you for representing our culture. ✊🏿✊🏽✊🏾
that police officer Nick seemed the most informed, he seems the least uncomfortable, he understood the defund the police movement, and he genuinely seems like he wants to be what a cop is supposed to be. and i respect
He was so cool about it though. His way of thinking about it and absorbing the positive feedback directed straight at him over being put off and deafening himself over the 'anti-cop' rhetoric was admirable and something that a lot of people need to take a lesson from. The cops have a very difficult job... that doesn't absolve any faults of the system nor does it clear bad cops - and there are bad cops - but... it really has to be hard to commit to your duty and tie that duty to your 'self' ... and then have it attacked. It takes a really big person to look past the generalized attacks and take in the appreciation given directly.
I agree I feel like they all gave answers that were genuine and had no malicious intent behind it but Nick I can honestly say i liked his answers the most 🤷🏻♂️ I have a feeling him and I would get along perfectly if he is actually like that in real life and not some act for the cameras hopefully not 🙏
EXACTLY
Most cops are like this....personally I'm tryna become a cop after college(minor is in criminal justice), and I recognized how fuck up our criminal justice system is, and I just wish people just respected each other and also showed understanding. If everyone was like this society would be a better place. But I really hope I can create positive change when I become a cop
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATHE BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM
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Sir as a black man who is law enforcement and in the military, I salute you for making this video. I personally tried to do something like this with my coworkers because all I want is change and to open peoples minds. So thank you and stay encouraged brother🙏🏾
Do you think things escalate because how people react when stopped like it puts both party’s on edge but the one with the upper hand which is mostly the officer is already in a high risk situation for example back turned to traffic and having to focus on someone they stopped not knowing that person’s intentions or what that person is capable of raises the tension especially when someone is bombarding the officer with I know my rights speech when they were being stopped for a simple traffic infraction
How did it go when you tried to do something like this with your coworkers?
what kind of change? we are talking about a country that has a population of 330 million people. last year something like 10 unaramed black men were shot by the police one of them was trying to run over them with the car some others were actively fighting with the police. the average number of people struck by lightning every year is 270 your are statisitcally many more times likely to be hit by lightning than you are to be "shot while black". there is something like 100 thousand deaths per year that could have been prevented in the medical industry this is far more significant. it is very strange to me that every single endevour carried out by human beings has always carried with it a certain margin of error and has never been perfect no institution we have is close to perfection yet for some reason we demand the police who are just common men to somehow have a greater than a 99.9999999% success rate. because as it stands now the police manage to not kill someone in an arrest 99.9997% or so of the time yet this is seen as somehow not good enough while other sectors of society do far worse.
@@vandythevandy honestly it didn't go as planned I felt things got off subject. Watching this video made me realize things I could've done better. For example having talking points, making it clear and straight to the point what I am trying to get across etc.
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This was a really interesting and necessary dialogue. I almost feel like it needs to be a series with discussions in different areas. The best cases would be in areas where the police force is majority White, but the areas they service are predominantly POC. The LAPD and NYPD, with very long, complicated history with their communities (and significant budgets) would really be ideal
The challenge is finding the squads willing, from those communities and cities
They need to do this once a week for a year so the tension can start to dissolve. Everyone was on edge in this room and it hurt the conversation.
@@wyattcoe8825 true man. I feel like the officers are also on edge afraid of what brass is going to say
Sounds like Petaluma is on the right track as a community. Thank you for talking, all of you!
You got jokes!
The fact this dialogue happened speaks volume, respect to everyone in the room that showed up.
the real question is if you this is in fact true the way they feel yk. they could just be saying this stuff to make themselves look as if they with the minority.
God bless, Jesus loves you and died for you all
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATH BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM
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as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism.
@@calvinthestormfreak My question is if he asked to be on the floor and was in handcuffs why was it necessary to kneel on his neck?
Black police officers shouldve DEFINITELY BEEN INVITED INTO THIS DISCUSSION.
as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism.
there is barely any poc in petaluma. its a white suburban town w rich tech ceos. Low income is considered to be 110k there. It’s an unrealistic place to choose for this discussion because of the lack of poc.
Yes.
He made it clear in the beginning that the purpose of the video is a conversation between white police officers and a black man. He can make his video anyway he wants, if you don't like that make your own video.
I don't think so, so many layers there, that needs to be a whole separate conversation.
He did specify uncomfortable conversations with a black man and he (the person of color; I don't know his name) brought up how he saw white officers as police yet black officers as black and he was more.comfortable with black officers. If it was black officers the conversation wouldn't have been at least *as* uncomfortable. This is coming to a middle ground: black man vs police which are seen as the issue a lot or are affected sometimes. I think that's why there was only white people since whatever they could relate on wasn't due to issues of their race. Sorry for the rant but thats what I think happened :)
This was the best conversation ive heard in along time. Amazing. Please keep doing these.
I LOVE this idea of having uncomfortable conversations with those who might have a different perspective. So much more can get done if we all talk about it.
Uncomfortable conversations are exactly what America needs.
I couldn't agree more but those conversations are only to be one way. No one including Emmanuel are truly having uncomfortable conversations. Proving your narrative by asking white cops from a white town if they had blacks for dinner at their homes is a infantile way to start a conversation. Also, making the claim that excessive force is used in all these situations is inaccurate so the conversations might be uncomfortable but they aren't very objective and they won't make a valid point with real potential solutions.
@@michaelconte2314 You're right. Having an interview with a collection of people all from one town is going to have very different results than had he chosen a few people from different towns all over America. I suppose this interview is not for a complete understanding of what is going on everywhere. Rather just one perspective and hopefully should be viewed as such.
America has them every day...more so then just about every country on the planet by a long shot. ive only been to 13 countries but even in my personal experience I could easily confirm the same.
@@jhartigan82 That's good to hear.
Not like anyone remembers the ones they have. This includes me.
This dude should get an award for doing gutsy work like this.
How is this gutsy? Award for like trying to have conversation maybe alittle but gutsy how?
@@Spooffasa Because he's trying to overcome the rampant fear and hatred in this country.
He's getting paid , that's enough
An award for deliberately centering whiteness in a discussion about police brutality against nonwhites? No, he doesn’t deserve an award for this episode.
Are you kidding he still doesn't want to address the problems some blacks have with interactions cops how some blacks bring the problems on to themselves let's talk 2020 not 1960 please
This is ABSOLUTELY amazing!!! Very critical questions were asked. This gathering is LEGENDARY in it’s own right!
I’ve never heard someone explain their feelings about the blue line flag in such a concise and well thought out manner. I completely understand and agree with his feelings on that. Very well put!
Huh?
“if we could do a better job of disarming, then we wouldn’t have to worry about discharging,” powerful words
Fax fax
start to don't robber, rape and\or act as an idiot and your chance to be shooted will decrease alot. regardless of the skin color
@@riccardoz2953 your english was almost ineligible but yes i agree. Haha dont act like a criminal
@@riccardoz2953 Really because many POC have been shot for “resisting”. They didn’t rape, they didn’t shoot, they didn’t do drugs. They just “resisted”
@@riccardoz2953 Did George Floyd rob someone, did Breona Taylor rape someone?
PTSD in the police and black community needs to be studied.
The officer described feeling the need to speak to Black males differently because of being recorded. He’s afraid of accountability while a Black person is afraid of their life.
Keep in mind black people are probably studied more than any other people.
But Black people aren’t typically doing the research
It’s not typically for black or predominantly black orgs/institutions
And there’s no guarantee that the Data will be shared with those communities, or used to their benefit
Again this is a system issue: a person doing research is an individual, and individual solutions against the system always have complex issues that exist and continue to cement the system.
You’re right, just take it a step further haha
@@bbuny10 I agree. I’m a full on schizophrenic and I am given interns for my mental health for study purposes and I know its not for my benefit or for the benefit of black people especially because I met interesting interns that shared the information with me. They didnt have to tell me because we black people already know this. I told them. Black people know this information and although we know this is the best we can do for the time being because thats the only help for someone like me to get. Having said that I feel like I had to be there for a reason because my story is helping other black people. I wouldnt need as much therapy if we were treated equally.
yup
@Nathaniel T that just doesn't bare out from the statistics.
This interview is beautiful and Im glad you all were mature enough to come together and socialize and put it all on the table.
This was great to watch. Emmanuel appears to be very comfortable and knows how to have these conversations without seeming like he has chosen a side. He appears very honest, and I think the officers warmed up to him. Very good.
First, I want to applaud the Petaluma police department for showing up and genuinely sharing their opinions and having the discussion. It shows that you care and that goes a long way in the black community. Just want to offer an opinion to Nick's question about what can the cops do to make black kids have a different opinion of them. Black people need to see you in the community regularly and not just when there is an incident. They need to know your name. They need to feel like you think they are innocent and not guilty when they interact with you. They need to feel like you see them as human beings and not criminals. Then they can see you as human beings and not murderers.
THIS ✨
This!
Nail on the head. I'm old enough to remember when policing was the Bobby on the Beat. He WALKED the neighberhood daily, knew people by name, knew who was trouble and who wasn't. There is a distance now, police are NOT part of the community they serve, so when they are called, it's only ever to trouble, so they always react as if its trouble. They need to become people first, cops second, walking and talking to people instead of distance.
A. Men. 👏👏👏
This! 🌟 💫
We don’t expect them to be perfect. We expect them to be fair and just.
well thats clearly not what BLM wants...
That's what you want. What BLM wants is for cops to be perfect under high stress, usually split-second moments when the body is pumping full of adrenaline. People can say all the want for years after someone gets shot, but a cop only has a fraction of a second to think and react when something happens. This was not the case for George Floyd, what happened there was 100% the cops' faults, but for the most part cops don't actually kneel on mens' necks.
@@lowcountryadventures5549 we are expecting to not get shot as a black man/women without any reasoning behind it .
Then when we protest we are now getting arrested and gassed even though the protests to go to the hairdressers (which included guns) were completely ok and no one was hurt.
We don’t expect perfect police or perfect people we expect equal rights and to have freedom to walk/drive in the street without getting shot or arrested for no reason.
Go do you ✨research✨ and stop being ignorant.
@@estar5560 Maybe you should do some ✨research✨ before you comment something stupid. To generalize all police into the category of murderers and law-breakers is idiotic and quite ironic really. Riot police don't use gas unless they are being assaulted first or if you don't disperse when they order you to. Police are on edge because officers are getting shot point-blank in the head when on duty, because of objects being thrown at them during these "peaceful" protests, and because nobody will stand with them in the face or rioters that BLM claim don't represent their cause.
As I said, hindsight is 20/20. A courtroom can discuss for hours what goes down in a police altercation that only lasted 30 seconds. To jump to the conclusion that a cop is racist for shooting a black man in the back is ignorant af. Cops are only allowed to do that if the person they are chasing is likely to endanger the public.
Like, have you ever even been to one of these protests? Have you ever even spoken to a cop? Or did you immediately assume all cops were pigs after what happened to George Floyd?
@@lowcountryadventures5549 literally ask any blm supporter and they’ll say what she said
This is absolutely amazing! Thank you for having these difficult conversations!
There’s always something about a good video that you’re not able to click off of. Great *needed* discussion and commentary!
There is no discussion to be had as police are not racist and they mistreat everyone not just black ppl per they have a slave master mentality and anyone who doesn't fully bend over for them they go into full SM mode... Twice as many white ppl are killed by police than blacks; every year only less than 10 black ppl are killed every year by cops meanwhile THOUSANDS of black ppl are killed every year by other black ppl yet there is absolutely no outcry from blm ppl about this... black ppl, though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violent crimes... Over 90% of all negative police interactions of blacks is caused by ignorant, wreckless, and overly emotional black ppl exacerbating non situations, thus self-inflicted... Black culture is the problem as it's what feeds the issues... All laws and restrictions to hold black ppl back are and have always been from democrats (party of slavery and racism) yet black ppl overwhelmingly vote dem thus self-inflicted destruction
Nick is the most educated officer in the room no doubt about it
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yeah i like him
That’s what I was gonna say
Forsure I thought I was the only one that peeped!
Should've definitely interviewed the NYPD. The implicit bias and blatant racism is so apparent and it needs to be called out when you're the second-largest police system.
EXACTLY
You said exactly what I was thinking. The police in NYC and NY state as a whole is something else💯
RIGHT
Not you speaking the truth!!
its the most diverse police department, maybe people are the issue not the cops.
Its been too long since I've seen such a genuine attempt to understand one another. We need more of it. Much more.
This was awesome Acho!!! I appreciate you and the work you’re doing.
“An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure” wow
That's an old saying, but, I'm glad you've been exposed to it.
That's a pretty common saying.
The saying is from Benjamin Franklin, one of the founders
Doesn’t matter how old or common it is... My 1st time hearing it
Proactive as opposed to reactive.
“To say any life matters is to assert that we thought life didn’t matter.” This guy is so eloquent and concise, it’s like he’s reading from a script. This is an amazing video.
Wait I don’t understand pls explain :’)
@@amyliu7065 it’s like they’re saying a specific life matter means that the others life don’t matter
@@awsomekill2, No, you seem to have misunderstood. If you have to say a life matters, then you're implying that the default is that that particular type of life is treated as though it doesn't matter. If you don't have to say it, then the default is that it is treated as though it does.
It's like saying (to use an oft used comparison) "my house is on fire". That implies that the default is that my house is not on fire. Or if a flood happens and I say "my house didn't flood", that's implying that most houses did. You're pointing out the exception to the rule.
@@amyliu7065, please see my response to Cynical. Hopefully that helps with your understanding.
@@TheRealMeatwad I don’t have a default, so personally that doesn’t mean anything to me, I believe everyone should be treated as equals and respected. I just feel like it’s very alienated thing to say
I am a black indian woman, and this show was the best most great uncomfortable conversation I've watched so far, great job 💙💚💛
Jesus! This man has SO MUCH insight, wisdom, knowledge, and incredible communication skills.
I’d say communication skills are at the top!
"When is the last time you had black people over at your house for dinner?"
I don't remember the last time I had anyone of any race over at my house for dinner lmao
fo real.
Wow
Haha me too. Then he was like when is the last time you've talked to a group. I'm too introverted to talk to a group of people 😆 of any race.
I’m pretty sure he used that as an opener to get them extremely uncomfortable and thinking. Just to
Prep them for the real question. It was also related to the next thing he talked about, the distance between the white and black communities.
As my post said when was the last time this black man had a chinese man over for dinner, or a Russian, he probably hasn't had a white person, or a native American. Makes him pretty racist 😂
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This is IT! Conversations that help to move forward and break the norm! Well done.
Hands on best UA-cam video I’ve seen in a long time,. Wish it was longer . My brother Acho thanks and continue with the work you’re doing
"It starts in the home. If a kid doesn't have a father in the home he will look for one in the streets" - Denzel Washington
damn bro that hits.
In a way. But I was a single mother. My daughter is 20 and has not seen her father since she was 8. Statistically she should have been pregnant, doing drugs and locked up at 15. But she kept her head in the books, in marching band for 6 years, graduated top of her class and now in college. One good parent can be enough.
@@Tiffaloni it’s different you’re a mother she’s a girl u can yea her and help her grow into a beautiful strong independent woman as a boy needs a man needs to see the perspective from a mans point of view but also raised well enough to understand a woman that’s where u come in... not saying either gender cannot contribute to the other but it’s how we a raised by see and learn and hearing over time
@@Tiffaloni I grew up without my dad in most of my life he was there financially but physically he wasn’t, he passed away when I finally tried to get to actually know him , I grew up with my mom she did an amazing job but I needed a father cause now I’m 23 learning how to be a man on my own and seeing and taking example from good men along life.
Amen!!
Everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like a spoken word performance, it's so fascinating
@JS Sim That is a microaggression, we don't do that here
@@glitchisfluffy ?
it sounds almost like he doesn’t rly know what he’s talking about. why is he so obsessed with white and black? it’s all about race when this problem is much more complex than this. the majority of unarmed people make sudden movements towards their waistband or into the car or under the seat. it almost always looks like they’re reaching for a gun, and that results in people reacting. and that reaction is completely fair. to expect a police officer to wait and see whether someone has a gun is completely irrational and impossible. you can’t train that and nobody with a brain would wait to find out. yet everyone expects them to. why?
@@glitchisfluffy bro wtf are u on about lmao they complimented him?
@@jacobgreen0915 I agree, it’s kinda hard to listen to him
I absolutely loved this!! I wish you can do it in more communities. Love love love this!!!
i am literally so glad this man is doing this omg hes changing the world for the better thank you so much please continue and i hope god blesses you so much like you deserve !!
Anyone else wish there was a black officer having a conversation with them?
My ex husband was a police officer and he was the only black officer in his squad. He would have never told the truth about the issues he saw in a talk like this...because for one it is a brotherhood and secondly it is a white brotherhood and that would have been used against him.
Yes! Why? Because it is important to show that "blackness" or "brownness" among the ranks of police does NOT invalidate the charge of systemic racism and white supremacy in the institution. Look at Nigeria. That is a nation of black people protesting police brutality by black people, stemming from colonial British training, which was historically racist.
Doesn't matter to me no
Right!!!!
YEP
Thank you for having these difficult conversations so that we can all bridge a small gap in understanding each other.
If you're going to talk about police brutality you first need a native black man, not an immigrant black man. Second he needs to present data to show the disproportionate rate of black men being killed by police officer. They are downplaying their involvement in killing black men unjustly and the brutality we face.
@@quinten4214 great points.
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This could have been a series on its own! Travel around the us and speak with police officers from various locations. Next time actually have POC there asking questions as well for a deeper conversation
Emmanuel Acho! You are the change we need in the world. So graceful. So eloquent. I appreciate your uncomfortable conversations and participants, so much. Thank you for all of it.
The part where you said you look for black people everywhere you go, YES!! The level of comfort I feel. I live in a predominately white area, & I barely see people that look like me. The very few times I do, Its such a warming experience & we always exchange a short conversation or even a smile. Its an instant connection & it makes me day.
I feel the exact same way except I'm not always comforted bc some black ppl act "funny" towards other black ppl😞
Something that people should recognize is it’s also the opposite. I’ve been in settings where I was the only white person around or there were only a few. It’s hard, you are uncomfortable, they aren’t your people, I get it. But a simple hello, or how are you doing goes a long way for me? I think what we need to do is start recognizing that we are different we aren’t the same. But bridging that gap can happen if we just took the second to say something to some one of the opposite color.
Ahhh! I wish I could honestly tell the black person walking into the room or place that I would stick up for them if they needed me too!
I just look for POC in general if I don’t find them I get SO tense
And if you travelled to another planet and on that planet there were aliens going about their daily lives but you saw one human there who was not the same color as you, would you feel relief at seeing them and have the same warm experience?
You know. This is exactly the kind of thing we need more of. Conversations that are held in a respectful way talking about polarizing topics. Thank you for doing this.
The cop in altans ga didnt any thing wrong he was making a arrested and fought them both he grab fase sorry it a weopen they just fire the office no die process and let look see everything no jump in race shit and want to puthim in jail wrong .wrong it a dangerous group antifa is a group dangerous . All live matter nope when defund they were try to hurt cop write murder in wat memoriam wall not true some of these shit meant it
@@susanr1903 all lives do matter.. he pointed out that the black lives matter movement is "black lives matter TOO" as they historically have not mattered. also are you ok? or is English not your first language? im having a hard time understanding your post.
@@susanr1903 Please go back and just redo the whole paragraph please , you have so many errors that I do not understand what you're saying.
that's why joe rogan's podcast has been so influential. just two people, experts in their respective fields, discussing life, ideas, society, in a super extended one-on-one, calm format. great way to get information compared to the filtered, sensationalized, biased reporting of other forms of media.
Sure. A black man baiting white cops who are not in shape. Need more of this!
Well Said Emmanuel!!! I appreciate these men answering the questions as honest as possible. Well done gentlemen.
I love this. Thank you for these dialogues that hopefully open peoples minds
I’m an officer in Pasadena, CA and would love to attend or participate in a conversation with officers of color. I love what you’re doing with these panels. Such positive outcomes from these types of discussions.
Thank you for your service
Thank you
Thank u for ur service officer❤
Thank you!! God bless you
thank you for your service
This was way too short. I think this conversation could have gotten MUCH deeper. They need to do a 4 part series on this, but it was a good starter.
Thinking the same. Need more shows like this in more cities.
@ I was about to say the same thing
@@user-kq2we1ex3h I understand sista, but we have to start with communication, accountability and acknowledgement. The problem with our society is acknowledgment. White people use deflection, strawman tactic to avoid these issues for discussion.
@ Personally I'm all in for us governing ourselves. Buying property away from da cities, starting more and strengthening black banks. Dealing with businesses primarily in our communities and having our own community peace keepers that we can call to assist. Even community funding programs (that our taxes would pay for) to send our children to college and can assist to pay our medical expenses. We gotta stop looking to white people to save us or at least get them out of our day to day lives.
I completely agree with Chris H., make this at least a 4 part series.
Excellent coversation..ty..it opened up my eyes in many ways
Has to be frustrating to cops now Everytime they have a ligament traffic stop and soon as they walk up , they hear ,," your harassing me because I'm black"
"That's not a shot at me! That's a shot at the system" yes! Literally, he demonstrates understanding.. not taking it personally, and seeing a broader perspective!
Genius show!
Please repent from all of your sins turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask him for forgiveness and mercy he suffered and died on a cross for us he was killed on a Roman torture device for us. Please start living for the Lord Jesus Christ because you are either for the world or for the Lord Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life.
@@diegoferrr6173 Please don’t put Jesus onto others in a video that has nothing to do with religion
@@diegoferrr6173 keep it up
“They got arrested and charged almost immediately-“. Actually, it did take them a while to press any charges and a lot of the times cops don’t get held accountable so then again that is the problem within how the system works. And the cops who killed Floyd all got bailed out which btw the bail system is another issue. 76% of people in jail have not yet been convicted of a crime but they are in there anyway because they could not PAY their way out. They’ve made bail too excessive and a lot of the times they charge at less fortunate communities which a lot of the times are filled with marginalized groups.
Swedish Fish when he said that I was like um sir have u not read anything about the case 🤦♀️
I think it's important to know that we don't see alot of the punishment when it comes to police they have a whole bureau that investigates and doesn't talk about it. My father was a cop and I'll be honest he was a dirty cop not against the public but his own family and no one knew about anything that was happening to him until he was in prison because they don't talk about their punishment
You can’t rush justice. You have to file the correct charges otherwise the act does not meet the elements of the crime they are being charged with. If you are missing a single element, then you can’t charge someone for the specific crime. That is why it is important to be thorough and comb all details before filing charges, otherwise people walk free, whether guilty or innocent.
George Floyd was a drug addict who tried to use fake money and got caught. Stop glorifying criminals and start following true heroes like MLK
@@wintersun264 Do you even watch Emmanuel’s videos? Or are you here to hate?
One of the absolute best interviews I've ever watched.
when he said that officer was charged and fired immediately im sorry to say he wasn’t i mean he was eventually but not immediately
It took long and rigorous days
Fr I was waiting for the guy to jump in and say no he wasn’t. Like he was literally protected, there were a bunch of cops around his house because he wasn’t arrested immediately and he was at home.
It took days of protesting for anything to be done, and now he's out of jail because his bail got payed.
No one is ever immediately arrested and sent to prison for any crime. Jail perhaps but any serious criminal charges get looked at and murder cases can take years. Even on tape.
@@kittenwu8527 well obviously but the point is it even took time for him to be taken to jail, there was a straight up video of him kneeling on the guys neck and the man clearly saying he couldn’t breathe. So I know he wouldn’t be charged and sent to prison but they just let him go and he was probably on paid leave and it took a protest for them to actually arrest him and take him to jail.
I feel like this conversation needs to be had with a group of black officers as well as from people with diff perspectives and experiences from the host. It needs to happen in every community with that communities officers.
I feel the conversation needs to happen one on one with one black male and one white cop. White people segregate themselves from black people then act as though they know them when in fact they have “never” interacted with the average black person. Their opinions are based on stereotypes and bias.
I've watched a bunch of these and more often than not cops express same or similar concerns across racial boundaries.
@Maze to confusion No, they don't.
I can somewhat agree, at least I get you. But at 1% of the cop population demographics, that'd be sample-fudging
@Maze to confusion You are wrong. Civil rights has always benefited all people. Any benefit obtained in the past has also benefited all women and other ethnic groups. With the exception of gays, their was immediate benefit. Gays were most recently able to benefit from systematic discrimination because of laws that were established after the 60s civil rights movement. “Seeing” more white people is irrelevant to the conversation. The relevant conversation is whites who do not nor have not ever interacted with anyone but whites who think they know anything about other people except what they see on tv.
You are black excellence. Thank you my brother for taking this to the podium and speaking on things upfront and making it personal so that the police understand our daily struggles with the law enforcement presence can be unsettling.
Black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of all crimes and violence crimes; thus obviously police would be on the alert when in urban areas... police don't interact with ppl unless they are causing issues or if it appears an issue is being caused... over 90% of all negative police interactions is from weak, wreckless, overly emotional ppl exacerbating non situations then they wrongly blame cops for their own stupidity... if you get pulled over for speeding, it's not because you are black it's because you were speeding yet the weak mindset of most black ppl is "it's because I'm black that's why"... racism and self victimization is a Serious problem in the black community sides weakness in general... Until this get addressed things won't look up
I just wanna send my up most respect ✊🏿 my brother these topics you’ve covered the Questions u ask was greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your patience and understanding my brother keep up the great work.
“Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear.” - Emmanuel 🙌🏽
I grew up inner city, a Hispanic, living in an all black neighborhood. I can personally tell you that the opposite is true. Proximity breed fear because you see all the negativity fostered in the area. The lack of regard for human life, even one that looks like you, is astounding and overwhelmingly sad. The fear of getting jumped or having to fight every day of my life was a reality for me. Simply because I looked like a white guy, or because my skin was too light during the summer months. Distance bred care and proximity bred fear. That's why I moved away as soon as I could. I don't want my kids to go through the hardships I had to go through in the community.
@@uranumbnuts Yeah wait actually wasn't the true saying "familiarity breed contempt"
@@dited358 that is in fact, the original saying. Yes.
@@uranumbnuts Hello! I can see why that phrase means something totally different to you, thank you for sharing that because regardless its a new perspective for me. Everyone can interpret his quote differently like I did and keep in mind he made the original quote his own based on his own experiences. If I may, what I understood from his phrase was proximity AND familiarity. We could be familiar with other cultures and even watched documentaries etc. But it's important to build relationships with people from other cultures as well to be fully immersed and aware of their circumstances. Also, as a latinx person I believe you would agree that we hate it when others stereotype our entire culture and race for the fault of a few.
@Gisselle Barreto I was merely pointing out that the phrase used was incorrect. Even from a psychological standpoint. Ppl, by nature, are sympathetic to others that look like them. One way of breaking that thought process, is nationalism, of which I fully support and fight for. We are a melting pot, not just of cultures, but ideas. We have the potential to build relationships with ppl of different cultures everyday. I'm not opposed to that.
As an aside, I am not latinx. I don't condone the use of latinx. I am Latino. And as a Latino, I can absolutely agree that stereotypes exist for a reason. Nothing wrong with stereotypes. They merely describe patterns of groups. Stereotypes is how groups like the FBI catch criminals. Profiles are based in patterns that certain types of ppl follow or create. We can't exactly say that stereotypes are bad for one thing and in the same breath, claim they are good for others.
I hate that there are cuts in this video. Let us hear the whole conversation uncut, raw, and immersive.
I don’t think they have cuts im pretty sure it’s just camera switches
In this video Emmanuel explains the cuts and edits they do in their videos. ua-cam.com/video/jXNtrqHCNUc/v-deo.html
@@sencoin4921 you think they really just had a 20 min convo ? Stop it ofc it’s edited Lmfaooo
@@theBellinghamster a Darren here in action
@@jakob_ysk943 another Darren😂
I love this conversation. It’s uncomfortable but very important. We are strong together.
Thank you Acho 🙏🏽 I learned a lot watching these videos. 👨🏽💻
“There’s not enough proximity between people who do not look like each other” that part. This odd for all types of people honestly.
It’s only an odd concept in America, most other countries are homogeneous.
I've never had a proximity between anyone in my community.
No matter the color.
It's a legitimate point that white officers may not know how to talk to blacks. Every video I've watched I thought the officers were very respectful and polite, but just got yelled at and/or attacked for it. Maybe that's not the best way to deal with the black community. I certainly don't want officers yelling back or being MORE aggressive ... I can't imagine that's the right solution. But maybe there's another way we just haven't thought of yet.
@@tkfordeful I definitely wouldn't say most other countries are homogeneous.
Most of Europe is really intermingled. Latin America is full of different indigenous tribes, afro-latinos, and immigrants. Almost everywhere has a mix of distinct cultures even if they're all considered the same race.
I will repeat this until it's heard: We need every cop who is good to stand up and publicly call out every racist cop. Until then it won't change.
I agree. Good cops calling out bad cops makes the job safer for the good cops.
They really do need to be brave and root out the bad apples. It is telling that they are afraid of each other.
So true! How can they be fair to people of color! If they let the racist cop be abusive!
Unfortunately some of the higher ups are bad as well... and its very unlikely that any cop would stand up and publicly call out a superior, when that would mean effectively ending the police for themselves (getting fired) AND possibly put themselves in danger.
How do you define racism? By what metric does a non racist cop call out a racist cop?
I wish every American would watch this video. Best UA-cam content I've encountered. Thank you for this series and thank you especially for this episode. So enlightening, so powerful, and so needed. Wow.
This could’ve gone an hour or more and I’d watch this. Communication and understanding is the key.
"That's not a shot at me, that's a shot at the system." Important.
System racism doesn't exist
White privilege doesn't exist
@@dove6069 Says racist with white privilege posting in anonymity without accountability.
@@dove6069 - GTFOH!
@@hueykhalidX He is just another loser seeking attention. Ignore him.
@@Iloveswedes white people arent privileged, black people are suppressed.
I saw this on tiktok and I came straight over to UA-cam lol
Same
same!!
Right lol didn’t even finish the tiktok
Same
me too
Anyone else here after the High Learning interview? 😂
He's not even a "black man" according to himself. They need to change the title.
Yes yes yes 🙌 this conversation needed to be had..gotta make people uncomfortable!!!
As a black cop, I found this conversation lacking in certain perspectives. Yes, we as cops are human but notice that the host said, and is often true, that black people don't usually see black cops as threats. But what I felt was missing was the black cops who also understand the fear of our kinsmen because we're privy to certain mindsets on this job. I'm sure all of those officers believe themselves good people, but in this setting you wouldn't see any of them be anything but professional. Ask us how some of our coworkers have problematic views when the veneer of professionalism is removed. Anyway, it is good that the conversation was had but maybe make it actually uncomfortable next time.
Well said, that is a very valid perspective. I am very glad that this discussion has been started, a step in the right direction, just more people need to acknowledge the truth of systemic racism.
I think this was good, personally. Not TOO uncomfortable, but not necessarily an easy conversation to be had. Especially when it’s not only being recorded for public viewing, but everyone you work with is right there watching you talk in the moment. They should totally do a second episode with these officers and get deeper in, though. Establish a solid respectful atmosphere first, then delve into something that can make people think deep. Shake things up when everyone’s a little more okay with being shaken. Perhaps if there were fewer people present, it might actually yield more open and personal honesty since most coworkers aren’t present to judge you. Or more group interaction with all the people present in the audience to make it less “all eyes on you” for those in the main chairs!
@@ingoeggers8356 And if racism were NOT systemic, how could the police change minds about that?
if a black person sees white cops as threats, but not black cops as threats - thats their own personal, racist mindset coming out. When i get pulled over, i could give a rats ass what race, color, ethnicity, age the cop is - they are all the same to me. those that believe otherwise are ignorant and a large part of the problem.
@@SpeedyCorky I, also, don't care what race/age/ the cop is, because I'm not viewed by the cops as a threat. Every cop that meets me is going to be polite and respectful. If I were a black man between the ages of 16-35 I would REALLY care who was pulling me over.
“I see him being black first vs I see you as a cop” mmm that one hit a different note
Honestly it made me think. Its an uncomfortable conversation but nobody wanted to address his biases either for fear of sounding bad on national television/UA-cam etc. I think both sides have work to do and that comment solidified my opinion on it
I actually disagree, I see a police officer before I see that they are black.
@@Samendio thats what im saying. People automatically see black and brown cops as good and white cops as bad, but really as a poc I see all cops as cops until they do something that makes them an asshole or a corrupt cop. Because at the end of the day we're all people regardless of race or color. Most of these guys are just trying to do their job out there and come back home to their families. Its a very few minority that are actually racist and corrupt and it ruins their image as a whole which really sucks and is unfair, but thats the society we live in today
That can be whats so bad with police interactions on both sides. If the cop is more on edge because they are black or the civilian is because the cop is white.
@@coperniki8286 well I see it as just adaptation to the work environment. If the area you're assigned to patrol is a low income minority neighborhood then yeah youre gonna be on edge, anybody who says they aren't is a liar. Thats a gangs home turf most of the time. Being on edge is normal for a cop but when people decide to be difficult and assholes with cops it just pushes their luck white black or brown. A lot of people don't realize there's footage before the incident that escalated the whole incident, usually because the suspect refuses to believe he or she is in the wrong and refuses to comply and have a little decency. Not saying all encounters but thats how a lot involving force go
I am so proud of you, and learning new ways to talk and having different opinions... it's so admirable...thank you for everything...
Very well said this needs to continue very good !!!!
that “nah, it’s different “ hit so hard lol
HE should interview black officers that protect predominantly black communities. The conversation might be more enlightening and honest. Go to the problem cities and do a real interview on the reasons WHY.. Emmanuel.
Yes it did! Lol
“That not a shot at me. That’s a shit at the system.” What a great reflection. Thank you for this video.
I felt like they held back a lot when it came to the real uncomfortable questions! Im happy that someone is asking the question. Thats the reason why I am pursuing my law enforcement career to internal affairs
You sound corny. If you want working cops to be honest, they need anonymity.
Cops are not racist they mistreat everyone; the only difference is white and other races don't act like weak over emotional self victims and cry racism every time a negative interaction happens which is twice as many as black ppl face... give anyone a position of "authority" and they will abuse it; cops have a slave master mentality and use unjust force against anyone who doesn't just bend over for them... black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violence crimes thus obviously it makes sense for cops to be more alert to their surroundings when in an urban environment...
I love this, communication is everything and what a way to start! 🙏🏾❤️
It felt like you were barely scratching the surface here. I especially appreciated the moments when the officers were asking questions. I think that’s the point where they are going to be most open. I’d also be really curious to hear a conversation with black cops and see what differences there are.
yes, i would love a part 2 and part 3 to this episode
Yeah, it would be great to perhaps have the officers guide the interview to get them to open up even further. And there does need to be a deeper conversation than this but this is a great start.
I had a similar thought. I'd like to see follow-on discussions drilling down into the details. The responses seemed careful, although sincere, but there also seemed to be a lot that was not said. Plus, they had some serious cop faces on - not giving away their thoughts.
I really like Nick. He seems like he’s educated himself a lot and isn’t defensive.
I don't cry. I teared up when Nick was talking about the Women's march and grasping that someone can support policing and also want to shift the status quo to something that works better for everyone.
Eating crow is hard, eating the fallout from someone else's bs is even worse. I feel bad for and I worry deeply about people on the force like him. Most people join to help, and a not insignificant amount join for the power trip and the fantasy. Knowing that your well meaning intentions were warped by pro-police propaganda and you became part of the problem is devastatingly humiliating, to the point you may react involuntarily at first by angrily denying you've been tricked. It's a normal and natural reaction in a situation like this.
He's incredibly humble and willing to keep up service while learning. I've met only one other officer like him before, when I was a teenage runaway.
I totally agree...I saw his heart.
@@mel7906 I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me lol, but one thing is clear: ALL humans must be held accountable for their mistakes. Being an employee of the government should NOT grant you immunity. Of course I think a majority of police officers have good intentions and are honorable, but all people should be held at the same level.
@@kennathomas8797 OH no no no my bad! I'm sorry for being confusing. I totally agree with you! Then I went on to state my personal feelings and after that, just a little perspective to how or why we're seeing some of the reactions we are from them. None of it was particularly directed at you anyone, but between yours and the other person, It just made me think of all that was all ,//_//,
I've never been so engaged in a conversation, your channel is truly amazing. Godbless!
This is so powerful! I’m glad that I found this
When I was growing up, the cops that would patrol my neighborhood were some of my favorite people ever. They would stop and talk to the kids, teach us about their job, one even gave us their card with their number on it and told us if we ever need help, he'd be there for us. If we can get back to that this country would be a better place.
I can tell you from experience that they're still around, both deputies and fire marshals. It's just they have always been overshadowed by irresponsible practices, quotas, and rampant corruption.
I think that's a bit of a illusion Bobbi. If you look at the history of policing in the United States, it has always had serious problems. If you drop in a white middle-class neighborhood for instance, then your experience police officers would not give an accurate picture of a problem.
Just gotta get people to stop being bigoted toward police.
@@FirstNameLastnName No, "people" don't do that. Sure many minorities might.
But you got the opposite problem as well. most conservatives seem to assume that police violence was always justified.
If all people truly believed cops where racist killers, then a lot of them would have been imprisoned whenever they beat up or shoot people. Yet this happens extremely rarely, which instead points to an unrealistically positive view of cops.
Unless you assume the jury is rigged by cop lovers. Most likely juries represent an average of the population and in the US they seem to aquite cops for crimes which would have landed them in prison in other countries.
We are still at that. People are being mislead by the media and the sick, racist ideology from liberals and the left. 99% of police offers are good. Look at the statistics. Only 9 black people were killed by a white police officer in 2020. That same year 48 police officers were murdered by black males. Police officers lives are the ones in danger.
I would love to see a conversation between a black man and black women! About black love, colorism, and societal pressures black women face because of black men! Very insightful video! :)
Yes!
This !!!!
Yes please ugh I’d love that
@Prince Jaren oh really ? All y’all do is bitch whine & moan abt us being angry like cmon
@Prince Jaren they are the punchlines of your jokes, the caretakers you take advantage of, and the people you deem undesirable because you view them in a negative light, wether that be because of how dark they are, their attitude or the way they dress. black men hold just as much prejudice against black women as anyone else that *isnt* a black women, the only difference is that you come from us.
tldr: black men can, they did, and they do. not all, but some.
This is one of the best channels on this entire platform and I see it only getting more influential.
Omg! How am I just learning about this channel! ❤️❣️❤️
The officers who show up are NOT the problem.
Hmm they responded to many of the questions with immediate anger so I mean, that’s something to worry about. Responding to people with anger IS A PROBLEM.
Their complicit silence is totally the problem.
@@o.h.w.6638 Not one answer was angry, some were defensive yeah ofc they were thats what happens in a group discussion. But not one point was there anger and I even say none were immediate, they all took a moment to think before they spoke
Great point.
They aren't the source of the problem, but they contribute to the problem by not being actively part of the solution.
This was a start. 👏🏾
What i do find lacking is here:
- confronting the problems in the system
- deeper dive into the accountability thing
- responding to “immediate justice with the officers” in the GF case
- talking about acknowledging that they often defend the badge more than the issue at hand
- not having just the willing and “wokend” officers speak.
I don't have comments for most of that list but the last one. Not having willing officers? how is he supposed to do that? If they aren't willing to talk then don't make them talk.
@@Spooffasa you’re right👌🏾
Maybe some responses out of the audience. Or responses that arent just social desirable. (I ASSUME some of them have such opinions.
I appreciate that he has this series and recognize that they're made to help white people feel more comfortable. Its a nice first step but many of them and this video specifically was pretty light weight. He didn't ask tough questions and these officers are open and recognize to some extent the issue. That helps with the narrative that all cops aren't bad but no questions were asked about holding the bad ones accountable, changing the culture and routing out racism in the system.
Shouldn't be one sided. What can black Americans do? Do we have any responsibilities also?
It is a conversation to get s common ground
This is so unbelievable and important. I'm grateful to be alive when something this profound has happened
I love this bro appreciate you!🙏🏽✊🏽
I feel like there wasn’t enough said here. I want to know what is the reason behind use of force/violence when a black person simply asks why are they being pulled over? There was a video I seen where a black guy asked that question and it resulted in his car door being opened (unlawfully) and he was yanked out of his car.
definatly we really saw him asking the cops asking questions to the cops but he wasn’t asking the right ones in my opinion
i saw that to
I agree that this video didn’t feel uncomfortable at all because the questions were very soft. But I think it’s great because it shows that there are cops who are listening and understand what’s going on. How do you expect a cop to answer that question? If I’m a cop who has never used excessive force, how could I answer for what another man did? Other than the fact that he should’ve never been a cop due to his biases, power trip, or just straight up racism, there’s really no other reasoning.
@@dreamingbig98 I felt like he wanted to start conversation and didn’t scrolled them. And try to prove them wrong. But him asking questions and showing a black man isn’t is irrational and just here to talk. This is more about knowing opening up communication.
@@dreamingbig98 I feel like they are more understanding now that they are put in front of a camera. But you never know who could be the next cop that kills a black person it’s more about prevention. He’s trying to share his mind set how a black person feels outside of getting pulled over. Maybe that cop will be one with another cop how doesn’t think the same. Knowledge Is so strong. I do agree his comments were soft but it’s a start.