Narcissism: The Magical Thinking Behind Self Obsession
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- In the context of narcissism magical thinking is a cognitive distortion or belief system that upholds and maintains their sense of entitlement. A belief of being special and unique and deserving of special treatment. A belief that everything should always work out great for them.
At it’s most basic, ‘it’s true because it fits my narrative.' This video outlines the reasons behind the magical thinking and beliefs of narcissistic people and gives examples.
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The biggest issue I have had with the two in my life is how they are so sure they know everything about everything no matter how often their absurd levels of ignorance blow up in their faces and expose them for the fools they are.
They believe everyone else to be fools. They are special and endowed with gifts the rest of us don't have.
@@ArtofFeckery111Amen to that. 👏 👏 👏
Yes their never wrong my Aunt is horrible. You cannot be in the room with her when she’s in one of these moods work everything that comes out of your mouth. No, that’s not it. Nope that’s not it everything you say is wrong. You cannot be in a conversation with someone like this repeatedly it’s like rapidfire. No that’s not really it and just tell you what it is why it’s the way something is !
If you keep lying to yourself, you blurr your vision and you end up blind. Some things just will not work out and it takes humility to admit that which is something narcisist have no idea of.
the humility comes from getting our ass kicked & the pain that comes from that. The school of hard knocks. And from this, there is learning & growth, & change for those who can reflect upon themselves. Especially learning not to ignore red flags & how one becomes vulnerable to a narcissist in the 1st place.
They’d probably rather literally die than to admit that they aren’t perfect and display some humility. That’s some twisted magical thinking, severe self-delusions and a total disconnection from reality.
5:05 They award themselves "moral immunity".
"Jeff, there's no gold in that mine"- my therapist to me.
🌱🌏💚 An exercise in futility. Attempting to resolve anything, no matter how big or small, with a narcissist. Its their way, or no way.
I am a caregiver for a disabled elderly covert narc. She gets so mad at me because I refuse to read her mind. Anticipate her needs. After a year, I finally gave notice today. She is getting stranger and stranger and I am done with her.
Oh gosh 😭
Watching these videos makes me feel so validated and somewhat sane. 23 years… and I have nearly lost my entire mind trying to figure out what I was dealing with in my spouse.
My ex said and did every single thing you mentioned in this video! It is still mind-boggling how entitled and delusional he was. He is a monster.
I was as financial analyst. So I observed that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of dictatorships usually exhibit this pattern, too. Narcissism could go countrywide.
I experienced magical thinking from a narcissist at work a few times. He was so sure he knew what I was supposedly thinking (mind reading), that he was even willing to confront me upfront on what I supposedly thought!!! It is in that moment when I realized the person was mentally really off-colour. There were other smaller things also. Back then I didn't realize the person was a Narc. But I do now. These people are something else.
I worked with someone who kept telling everyone she was being given “special tasks” by our manager when the tasks were actually very boring and were just part of the job 😂. She loved to tell lots of ridiculous stories that were unbelievable and painted her as the victim or the hero and sometimes both 😅
Great final thought!! Yes, when they can t live in the reality, there s no way they can be real with you.
My therapist introduced me to the term "magical thinking", but your explanation of it has truly been an epiphany.
It's truly amazing that my wife thinks she is a great car navigator. She fails consistently to navigate as a copilot every time. Also, her ability to explain directions is astoundingly bad. But she's better than anyone else, only in her mind. It's truly amazing to see that confused look on folks faces when she does it.😅
Lol I always get lost dreaming or something else 😊
I was raised by covert narcissists, and when I hear things like this I worry that I have become a narcissist myself. I do not want to be like them in any way, I hate when I see these traits in myself.
Some of the traits are simply learned in self defense. I don't believe you can be a bona fide narc if that concerns you in the least. They don't think like that. Darren would know for sure though, I believe.
@@allieeverett9017 thank you very much for me it is the same than for Karissa just above and I must admit I have the same fears thank you so much for reasuring 🙏🌞💙
@@acbdef9665 I agree: the fact that you're concerned about becoming like that means you are NOT one of them.
Remember! Narcissism derived by egoistic personality and in reality ego is part of you!! (Just like your eyes and fingers, ego is one of you) . You do need healthy level of ego to enforce your boundary and that is perfectly fine!! You don’t have to feel bad about it love!! :)
@@randy_cbc8811 thank you so much. Definitely I'm not. I thank you very much for your answer very kind.
.. as a German Biologist - a Natural Scientist…
This is about Domestication and Conditioning
To be hyper friendly
Trust, Help - OBEY
Surrender, Forgive…
That makes us vulnerable for any Predator and Psycho Path
To Hijack us.
It takes intense Endurance and Inner Strength training
to de Condition
and become aware of the toxic environment.
Can make us lonely outsiders…
To become immune to fast intense rewards
and promises and delusions.
There we meet our best friends, comrades…
And be our best version ever
I love your perspective and the way you explain things Darren. Thanks again for being able to explain to an Autistic person how these situations are ❤
Thank you very much Darren ❤ for your help.
having been 'future faked' to the extent of £40m over many years (c.11) by my manipulatively deceitful ex wife, evidence of this was not put to the court by my legal aid funded solicitor.
is this professional negligence or even malfeasance?
this has left me in a gravely compromised emotional and financial state. 7 years later, this still completely overwhelms me.
it has also not been viewed as coercively controlling domestic abuse in the uk.
from viewing multi £m properties believing we were genuine prospective buyers, my ex has continued entirely unaccountable in her fiduciary career.
how in hell can one ever 'recover' from such mind-boggling treachery? i simply cannot.
"They think that it's going to undo all the pain and misery they've caused." Sir, you know your stuff. That described my former romantic interest perfectly.
Truthfully, it's the reason why I changed my phone number after my mother left a voicemail going on 3 years ago. The message contained a statement that said exactly that: it can undo the pain and misery.
Truthfully, it instantly, instantly, reminded me of that former romantic interest I just mentioned.
Magical thinking = pure lies
New sub, definitely on the mark. Thank you.
Very insightful, thank you Darren xx
It's amazing to me that narcissists have these similar traits, like there's some specific part of their brain that doesn't work right that causes their behaviors and beliefs. I'm even more amazed that the syndrome became recognized and described so well. Was it Freud who first wrote about it? Or does it go further back? I had a narcissistic mother and the world opened up to me when I was privileged to find out what was going on, and was able to read about it. Immediately, I felt validated! And somehow ok, when before, I thought it must be my fault (because an NPD mother will make you feel that way!) Thanks for adding to the knowledge and spreading it, to help other people!
Narcissus, in Greek mythology, the son of the river god Cephissus and the nymph Liriope. He was distinguished for his beauty. According to Ovid’s Metamorphoses, Book III, Narcissus’s mother was told by the blind seer Tiresias that he would have a long life, provided he never recognized himself. However, his rejection of the love of the nymph Echo or (in an earlier version) of the young man Ameinias drew upon him the vengeance of the gods. He fell in love with his own reflection in the waters of a spring and pined away (or killed himself); the flower that bears his name sprang up where he died. The Greek traveler and geographer Pausanias, in Description of Greece, Book IX, said it was more likely that Narcissus, to console himself for the death of his beloved twin sister, his exact counterpart, sat gazing into the spring to recall her features.
The story may have derived from the ancient Greek superstition that it was unlucky or even fatal to see one’s own reflection. Narcissus was a very popular subject in Roman art. In Freudian psychiatry and psychoanalysis, the term narcissism denotes an excessive degree of self-esteem or self-involvement, a condition that is usually a form of emotional immaturity. -Britannica
@@MT-bc1we Narcissus - Daffodils.
@@sixthsenseamelia4695 sure was an interesting choice of flower. maybe we should just refer to the narcissists as daffodils. my last boss was such a daffodil :)
So..."My Truth."
This is so real, Darren. Before I met them in person, a narcissist asked me what was my dream man body type. I described an Anthony Joshua type physique and he said, "That sounds like me." When I met him, he was closer to JJ from Good Times. 😂 I can not begin to understand why NPD is not classified as a mental health disorder. Thank you for the great video as always. 💕
It is, it's in the dsm-5. You receive diagnosis for it as a mental health disorder. NPDisorder..
@spencer9892 Ok. I thought I heard a therapist say that it used to be but no longer is. It definitely needs to be, so glad to hear that.
The one I worked with believes that she is entitled to special treatment from me insofar as our becoming romantically involved, even though she has 2 teenage sons and I have no children at all and has much attitude when I established my boundaries and declined😂
That’s so true if they lie to themselves why would they tell you the truth?
Dr. Magee….I have been listening to many of your videos, and you are so spot on, it is mind blowing. This video has left me stunned. 😊
Oh my goodness, this is way better than years of counseling
And when they see that you don't subscribe to their held belief about themselves, there will be a narcissistic reaction.
My husband is not a narcissist, just a Polyanna, a toxically positive person, and this video described him to a T.
This is a very interesting distinction. Could you elaborate a little. I feel like I need to further understand this. Pollyanna vs Narcissists. Hmmmmm....?
The term that she vehemently used was "rehashing."
Love your videos and BTW, I'm really liking your new hairstyle! I looks great on you!
I don't think there's anything wrong with positive thinking. However, when you go around telling everyone you have a great relationship with your wealthy brother when he hasn't come to visit when it was only a $300 2 hour flight away, called, or sent you or his neice a birthday card in 50 years and the last time you went to visit him he had you sleeping on a cot with no mattress then kicked you out seems narcissistic.
I would ask, "If I did to you what you did to me, would you get back involved with me?"
This was her reply 😐
Where is the line between magical thinking and mental illness? My ex is definitely a narcissist but also believes things about me that are not true. Stories he made up to be able to live with his choice to leave. But he really believes the things in his mind. Do most narcissistic people also have other co-morbidities? Trying to make sense of the crazy. It's so hard when they won't admit anything is wrong with themselves. No way to get a real diagnosis.
It Seems Like Schizophrenia to Me.....
is there a difference between magical thinking and religion?
3 words Law. Of. Attraction
Perfect description of Donald Trump.
How so? (A real person without TDS will have a rational reply to this comment. A bot/ NPC won't.)
@@illbeyourmonster1959👍👏👏👏
Let start with Biden….
@@illbeyourmonster1959 🤣🤣🤣 Either you are kidding or a cultist.
@@dashathehorsegirl7943 go ahead. Share sone factual evidence of his narcissism, if you can. Skip Fox News, Breitbart and other right-wing rags pretending to be credible sources.
Dangerous territory. ⚠️☠️🚷🪄