I just posted my own opinion vid on the Fury. I think it fits a sweet role that mirrors the Empire from SW. Carrier based fighters designed to complement larger Expeditionary Carriers. I’ve always loved your stream of consciousness opinion pieces. Using the Fury in a Cat could be excellent. Gozanti Class Cruiser anyone?
It could make a good planetary scout ship. It will have a great view from the cockpit and easy to land practically anywhere. A first strike on ground forces is another use for small Orgs with 1 or 2 large/med ships. It would be nice if there is some compartment for a long rifle and ammo. The missile variant will raise hell on Novas etc.
Im excited to see powerful snub fighters capable of standing toe to toe with light fighters. I hope that when jump gates come in (and the need for jump modules as part of ship components) that light fighters will not come with long range jump modules as a cost for having massively increased weapons.
Had four Furries with various distortion loadouts on a Cat roll up on a Carrack. The top turret on the Cat with Revs and the Furries shut the Carrack down in about 15 seconds. We also tested the four with their standard loadouts against a decent Arrow pilot and he took out three Furries very quickly. They're cute and just another potential tool. Depends on how ya use it.
This ship is a great replacement for the Ursa as it is the same size. You could do so much more. Many ground vehicles are hard to justify their worth. A Connie having double snubs instead of an ursa could make a difference. Sub capital ships suddenly can have a snub fighter like the HH and the perseus
The models have been lifted from the patch and compared to other models and I saw it in PTU. It's a smaller Argo MPUV if that's possible. It fits in the back of a Nomad and in the Cat's larger side cargo bays so it's a mini carrier now. A Herc C2 could pop up to 10 of these out probably. Imagine 40x S2 guns and 40x S2 missiles in one carrier for a lot of firepower. It resembles to me of a cross of the Star Trek fighter pod, Babylon 5 fighters, and the Tie Interceptor with Kar'Tu-Al engines. This would also be good for cave miners because it has personal storage and can fit in most caves with a small sig to not be detected easily. It can spawn at size 0 ground vehicle pads on moons and quick to claim. They will be cheap enough in aUEC to just leave one perma-stored at favorite locations. It's not going to disrupt the meta, but it's going to make starter carrier play accessible and a fun option multiplayer. It's huge for Pyro where having fighter escorts will be slower and expensive unless you bring your own Starfarer, which is all eating profit in fuel. The Fury is a swarm fighter vs a duelist ship and relies on agility and speed for tank. Orgs will use these for defense and utility and fun carrier vs carrier fights. For indy orgs you drop a Cat/Herc full of these off with your miners and salvagers to assist them and keep a couple onboard for runs and the carrier picks them up after last haul-in. For Pyro runs you carry a couple of these and launch them if you need them otherwise they stay parked to save fuel.
When I learned about the fury and that it was a snub fighter I admit I pretty much wrote it off. At the moment Snub fighters are just not practical, which is not to say in the right hands they are not effective combat ships but right now pretty much any ship with an atlas drive can go anywhere in Stanton and QD travel as a group is just better because you can bug out together more rapildy where as a snub fighter the pilot is pretty much commited to winning the fight. I did find it strange that there appears to be no mother ship but if it does turn out that the goal here is to provide a snub fighter than be carried within a standard cargo hold...anything that cand fit a rover practically well that does give you the option of having better defense on ships that are less able to do so themselves. For the most part I think cargo ships would rather fill their holds with cargo but in the future if there are larger systems with longer distances that a fighter can't make (though we do have long range fighters such as the Vangaurd) it's an option if your expecting trouble. Aside from fuel and other logistics there is the matter of cost. In the future the cheap cost of snubs could make them a better option in those sitations or for ships with cargo/small flight bays to have more firepower be an option. For now though, its a token and a neat thing to try but QD's are just a better option.
You're absolutely correct. Snubs can beat light fighters and gang-swarm larger ships. A carrier with snubs is better than elite dogfighters trying to joust their way through your battles. It won't be tolerated in the Realtime Gameplay, it just takes too long, you can't trust ego pilots, and their losses will cost too much over time
People are also forgetting. Yes it's compact but you need more space to actually get on thru the front. It's not the side like regular fighters or other snub so stacking is not as much beneficial as people are thinking it will be.
Fury is great for short range base defense where you have plenty space to house swarms of them, lots of suplies and sensor support to spot stealths. But if your on a moving fleet in need to move fast they will slow down everyone because they need to squeeze back into the small hangars before all ships can leave. If you have normal size hangars then you might as well bring fighters equiped with quantum drives because at least they can immidialy fly off with the fleet.
They couldn't be bothered designing a chassis, so they just stuck guns and missiles on a seat and hope nobody will notice it's not a ship, just a bit of one.
Let's be real the only real use for the snub is very limited as the game is now. For every snub you have manned that is a person who could be in a another fighter or a gun on your ship. I only see this as useful for a redeployment platform on say a carrack or 890 jump that has a medbed so that someone who was in a fighter who gets shot down can redeploy quickly. Even in the deep space example unless you have extra crew, in most cases deploying a snub fighter would take too much time to be effective when you could've got on a gun and fired back, manuevered the ship away, etc...
Don’t really see it being practical the space bikes are the perfect example of its impracticality as actually storing the bikes in normal size ships non c2 size tends to be a pain and blows up the ships
IT changes nothing really ... Range poor firepower poor... Too slow to go after enforcement ship.. For a single player too many other viable options to make this viable... Snubs with QD to meet up after escape are worthwhile... So M50, Razor LX, stealth offer much more...
The best thing is this let’s everyone be a captain instead of sitting in a turret. Really exciting for multi crew
I'm not really a piratey guy but this channel produces great content that is well thought through and reasoned.
Keep it up, my guy.
When player built habs/outposts are in the fury will be a must have.
My Taurus just got it's 'occasional' snub fighter :D
The value of the Liberator appears to have went up as a pocket carrier with these things.
I just posted my own opinion vid on the Fury. I think it fits a sweet role that mirrors the Empire from SW. Carrier based fighters designed to complement larger Expeditionary Carriers. I’ve always loved your stream of consciousness opinion pieces. Using the Fury in a Cat could be excellent. Gozanti Class Cruiser anyone?
It could make a good planetary scout ship. It will have a great view from the cockpit and easy to land practically anywhere. A first strike on ground forces is another use for small Orgs with 1 or 2 large/med ships. It would be nice if there is some compartment for a long rifle and ammo. The missile variant will raise hell on Novas etc.
Im excited to see powerful snub fighters capable of standing toe to toe with light fighters. I hope that when jump gates come in (and the need for jump modules as part of ship components) that light fighters will not come with long range jump modules as a cost for having massively increased weapons.
It looks like a trash can with a cockpit. I find it to be charming. It will be a great Meme ship. I might get one.
Had four Furries with various distortion loadouts on a Cat roll up on a Carrack. The top turret on the Cat with Revs and the Furries shut the Carrack down in about 15 seconds.
We also tested the four with their standard loadouts against a decent Arrow pilot and he took out three Furries very quickly.
They're cute and just another potential tool. Depends on how ya use it.
This ship is a great replacement for the Ursa as it is the same size. You could do so much more. Many ground vehicles are hard to justify their worth. A Connie having double snubs instead of an ursa could make a difference. Sub capital ships suddenly can have a snub fighter like the HH and the perseus
It’s a good alternative, but the Ursa will still be better for sneaking in under the AA guns, moving people, and retrieving mission boxes.
The models have been lifted from the patch and compared to other models and I saw it in PTU. It's a smaller Argo MPUV if that's possible. It fits in the back of a Nomad and in the Cat's larger side cargo bays so it's a mini carrier now. A Herc C2 could pop up to 10 of these out probably. Imagine 40x S2 guns and 40x S2 missiles in one carrier for a lot of firepower. It resembles to me of a cross of the Star Trek fighter pod, Babylon 5 fighters, and the Tie Interceptor with Kar'Tu-Al engines.
This would also be good for cave miners because it has personal storage and can fit in most caves with a small sig to not be detected easily. It can spawn at size 0 ground vehicle pads on moons and quick to claim. They will be cheap enough in aUEC to just leave one perma-stored at favorite locations.
It's not going to disrupt the meta, but it's going to make starter carrier play accessible and a fun option multiplayer. It's huge for Pyro where having fighter escorts will be slower and expensive unless you bring your own Starfarer, which is all eating profit in fuel. The Fury is a swarm fighter vs a duelist ship and relies on agility and speed for tank. Orgs will use these for defense and utility and fun carrier vs carrier fights. For indy orgs you drop a Cat/Herc full of these off with your miners and salvagers to assist them and keep a couple onboard for runs and the carrier picks them up after last haul-in. For Pyro runs you carry a couple of these and launch them if you need them otherwise they stay parked to save fuel.
When I learned about the fury and that it was a snub fighter I admit I pretty much wrote it off. At the moment Snub fighters are just not practical, which is not to say in the right hands they are not effective combat ships but right now pretty much any ship with an atlas drive can go anywhere in Stanton and QD travel as a group is just better because you can bug out together more rapildy where as a snub fighter the pilot is pretty much commited to winning the fight.
I did find it strange that there appears to be no mother ship but if it does turn out that the goal here is to provide a snub fighter than be carried within a standard cargo hold...anything that cand fit a rover practically well that does give you the option of having better defense on ships that are less able to do so themselves.
For the most part I think cargo ships would rather fill their holds with cargo but in the future if there are larger systems with longer distances that a fighter can't make (though we do have long range fighters such as the Vangaurd) it's an option if your expecting trouble.
Aside from fuel and other logistics there is the matter of cost. In the future the cheap cost of snubs could make them a better option in those sitations or for ships with cargo/small flight bays to have more firepower be an option.
For now though, its a token and a neat thing to try but QD's are just a better option.
hard to see it not getting an interesting mother ship. Surprised the discussion hasn't gone there much.
This new snub fighter with the Liberator will kick ass... Especially if it allow players to refuel/rearm from Liberator cargo.
Fury looks a lot like the Red Tail ship in Cowboy Bebop; for me that's a cool thing using the Odyssey like the Bebop ship
You're absolutely correct. Snubs can beat light fighters and gang-swarm larger ships. A carrier with snubs is better than elite dogfighters trying to joust their way through your battles. It won't be tolerated in the Realtime Gameplay, it just takes too long, you can't trust ego pilots, and their losses will cost too much over time
People are also forgetting. Yes it's compact but you need more space to actually get on thru the front. It's not the side like regular fighters or other snub so stacking is not as much beneficial as people are thinking it will be.
Fury is great for short range base defense where you have plenty space to house swarms of them, lots of suplies and sensor support to spot stealths. But if your on a moving fleet in need to move fast they will slow down everyone because they need to squeeze back into the small hangars before all ships can leave. If you have normal size hangars then you might as well bring fighters equiped with quantum drives because at least they can immidialy fly off with the fleet.
The Fury is 100% sales bait, and will be followed with a 'nerf' switch shortly after the sales event has ended.
They couldn't be bothered designing a chassis, so they just stuck guns and missiles on a seat and hope nobody will notice it's not a ship, just a bit of one.
I wonder if armor and range will change how fighters are used.
Not even a little bit excited your pirate catapiller will be able to hold at least five Furies?
Oh look, a video with a Caterpillar in it.........
The Fury has HP of an egg shell. No QT. Then expect the incoming nerf, master modes will also make these as effective as a mosquito…😂
Let's be real the only real use for the snub is very limited as the game is now. For every snub you have manned that is a person who could be in a another fighter or a gun on your ship. I only see this as useful for a redeployment platform on say a carrack or 890 jump that has a medbed so that someone who was in a fighter who gets shot down can redeploy quickly. Even in the deep space example unless you have extra crew, in most cases deploying a snub fighter would take too much time to be effective when you could've got on a gun and fired back, manuevered the ship away, etc...
Snub fighters are a waste of a player potential
How so? Even two of them could transform a cargo ship into a formidable threat, if they’re really as powerful as an Arrow.
@@drksideofthewal If you can's see why already, you're never meant to know.
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Oh, you must mean in some weird philosophical sense rather than a practical sense. “The power of the player is within.”
Don’t really see it being practical the space bikes are the perfect example of its impracticality as actually storing the bikes in normal size ships non c2 size tends to be a pain and blows up the ships
IT changes nothing really ... Range poor firepower poor... Too slow to go after enforcement ship.. For a single player too many other viable options to make this viable... Snubs with QD to meet up after escape are worthwhile... So M50, Razor LX, stealth offer much more...