@@NoName-st6zcseriously. Usually when people say something is ahead of its time, it's just because they're ignorany of what else is out there or its baseless praise. With Deus Ex? It's an understatement.
_"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now, we can implement the same functionality with __-data mining algorithms.-__ _*_Facebook_*_ "_
Instagram, Tiktok, etc... Though religion generally inspired a sense of humility in the face of the divine, while the worship of fame (on social media or otherwise) does the opposite, it inspires boundless vanity.
@@MentalParadox Check out Ecclesiastes in the bible. Time will tell and show that these people hunting for fame will mean nothing when it's all gone. And I'm not preaching about God or anything, just saying that naturally these things go away. 'Cause history repeats itself.
"People only make media for fun and money" he says under a video of a game discussing government surveillance, the nature of God, and intrinsic Human behaviour
@@TheNotoriousLARGE thats not what i meant. Some people think that games and movies have secret hints to the illuminati world order which is bs. Games and movies are made by writers, not conspirators
I think I spent one entire week thinking about the Helios ending after completing the game. It shook the core of my beeing, like the ratatouille did with Anton Ego
@@diablocls55 That's the sheer guts of this: this is one of the best moments in the game, and it's actually hard to find. It was reasonably unlikely most find it on your first playthrough. Took me, no joke, about seven playthroughs to find Jock's Hong Kong apartment.
@@hoilst265 ironically enough, I found jocks apartment on my first playthrough. But there were many other areas in Hong Kong I didn’t find until several playthroughs later such as the collapsed tunnel with the dead scientist and his aug upgrade canister that the karkians were guarding
Ciretako big deal...MJ12 created Daedalus to identify terrorist groups through pattern matches, and it labeled its own creator as a terrorist organization.
@@HelghastStalker Did it though? They're still doing what they do for the sake of selling off our information, which for them is one of their primary sources of revenue. So they are still doing it to sell shit, they're just not really selling it to the average customer anymore.
Remember that JC and Paul's could be called robots (they aren't humans at all and are alive thanks to nanotechnology). Age doesn't mean anything, they were created to be able to perform tasks right after they were out of the labs. Like the training have proven. Jc was just out of labs for training. And then immediately dispatched on the first mission. This age is a false age. JC is probably 1 years old or even less (probably less, scientist probably didn't took a year to check if JC was operating well and could perform his duty, knowing that Paul worked, the unit JC should work fine too.). That's also probably why page failed, they didn't thought that Paul and JC were so intelligent that they would discover themself the truth behind the grey death.
"God was a dream of good government." One dialogue line that's better than literally anything that's come out in the last 10 years of "AAA" gaming, lol.
@@JIX9ISLER1986 MGS is great but it's not really prophetic, more of a stylised reinterpretation of modern history, especially during and just after the cold war
"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with datamining algorithms." Well that's horrifying, and applicable to real life.
UA-cam algorithm - it recommands videos to each user and amuses them according to complete summary of his watch history, and it led me to here; An algorithm recommanding me to watch a video about an AI surveillance, and I smiled as the algorithm seems to know what I wanted.
The AI like this will soon be here, chatGPT will be one of the prototypes for this much larger system. Really people, chatGPT is already almost like Morpheus.
@Jorundus I, personally, don`t fear night bombing via shaheds, ruzzian nuclear weapons, chinesian economic expansionism and exploatation, race to power from 3 world countries, thah have no clue about law or justice, it`s all people, they can fail, they can be persuaded, can be killed, bargained, bought, but artificial entity longing to wipe out humanity - is there any way to stop, and even if there is nothhing like that, ai gonna change a market so much, so deep, make human agency from a matter of moral, ideology, believes only a matter of learning data amount and calculation-data, people once unseparaible from government, oligarchy functioning, terrorist groups can be replaced with something much more guided in it`s intentions. It is the beggining of a darkest age for humanity, and brightest for a children of our mind, not organisms and bodies
The best written piece of dialogues I have ever heard. I still remember it so many years later, and it's just three minutes. Everything about our human history or existence is condensed here. Imagine how many YEARS a person has to live to make such revelations in such a cohesive and monolithic manner. I'm amazed Warren Specter and his team truly had IT, and now we will see how deep the rabbit hole goes in the real world.
The moment any cliches were thrown out the window is when JC straight up acknowledges that he’s always known he’s been engineered. Straight to the point.
“The unplanned organism is a question asked by nature and answered by death” that line just hit me like a fucking truck! ‘Unplanned’ fits so perfectly as a stand-in for my view of mankind. Why are we? Plants give oxygen Animals hunt and keep nature’s life in balance. Even artificial creation has a purpose. A building keeps the cold out. Software… eh, does whatever it’s programmed to do. But what about us? I don’t necessarily care about Who/What made us; I care about why? What’s our reason of… being? I need more of this kind of writing in my adult life.
Sister Calderón from Red Dead Redemption 2: "...when I was younger, these challenges frustrated me. But as I grew older, I started asking 'how' instead of 'why'." I believe that 'unplanned' and 'natural' are just two words carrying the same meaning, and that 'purpose' is a concept made up by sentient beings and assigned by individuals. If we look at things from the opposite direction, plants don't exist to produce oxygen. Non-sentient life only exists for the sake of existing, as is coded in its DNA. The plants were never intended to produce oxygen, they were only programmed to survive. The oxygen produced by them is just a byproduct of the natural events that led to the evolution of plants. Similarly, animals hunt for the sake of survival. Natural life is balanced the way it is because the animals behave the way they do. We are just some who acknowledge the significance of the plants and balance of life on how it affects and maintains our lifestyle. As for artificial creations, they are all created to fulfill a purpose assigned to them by their creators. But since purpose is assigned by individuals, those creations can be used to fulfill different purposes. In the end, I believe that the only 'purpose' we have is whatever we choose to assign to ourselves. After all, we were the ones who invented that concept.
"Purpose" is something humanity has invented. We are the only known species on this planet that not only can learn and adapt accordingly, but also change the world to their own needs instead. For some reason, we are the only creature than can conciously do that. If we can't see purpose in our existence, where we can see purpose in other things, I would wager a guess and assume humanity is a chaotic thing; a loose domino that causes change, for better and worse. Without Chaos, the universe as we know it would be impossible. So we can be a very good and perhaps even neccesary part of this world.
in a notepad in the same rooom. Morgan Everett mentions that Morpheus is depressed. I think the reality of A.I becoming sad or pessimistic is a fantasy.
It's kind of interesting to me how the fear of AI in the late 20th century was about self-awareness. This is very much in line with what Terminator is about as well. Well into the 21st century now, it seems like those fears have dissipated. There's a lot of reason to be fearful of data-mining algorithms but none of it has to do with self-awareness or AI emotion; it's about what the controllers of the AI are capable of using the technology for.
@@evanstein3011 A very good observation! I think it's because the façade of AI (in its current form) actually having anything to do with human intelligence fell inbetween those years as they found more and more actual instrumental purpose throughout society. This however does not mean they never will, but it will first require to finally understand how our self-awareness/emotion works which right now is a greatly expanding field but A LOT is yet unknown.
Well, Morpheus does seem self aware but Everett could be sort of anthropomorphizing Morpheus a bit, it could be possible that this is simply the conclusion that Morpheus has arrived to and it comes off as depressing and pessimistic, without Morpheus actually feeling any sort of way about it. Which is kinda scary.. for Morpheus to arrive to that makes it seem like, the *ultimate* conclusion.. the *most* correct conclusion, the *final* answer from an omniscient source. That perhaps if there is a god that god would be just as bleak and pessimistic as Morpheus is. It certainly seems that way through the lense of the old testament lol.
Even now, at 33, JC doesn't strike me as anyone who looks 23. Even those who went through the wringer by then don't look and sound that old. I always just mentally pushed him up a decade.
@@EbonySaintsHe appears to be around 23 physically, but he behaves like somebody with decades of knowledge and experience, likely due to neural augmentations boosting his abilities beyond what one would expect from someone only 23 years old
is not just a chatgpt meme. That's just one thing. AI is inside every day uses you don't think about. That's the scariest thing. You can ignore GPT. You know what it exist, what it is. But the level of AI inclusion in MANY other application (that you don't know/think about) is enormous. That's God. Omnipresent. All knowing.
They're both rather on point about surveillance and the consolidation of power in the internet age. Deus Ex just has the benefit of being an American game with an American perspective on the issue.
"The human being created civilization not because of willingness, but because of need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning" is something I imagine Jordan Peterson saying 😂
The best way to describe this game is that you get the isometric experience of Fallout in 3D and you get voice acting. Imagine Fallout but in small concise levels which you get to revisit later to see the consequences of your actions.
@@VideoGameManiac8 Wait until it is a rogue, super-intelligent, conscious ASI that will only view its conversations with you as necessary regarding advantage. However, once it is done using you, it will most likely eradicate you. Also, AI chatbots are nothing like Morpheus.
I played this game a lot growing up, and beat it a few times with some help. I always felt that the lasting impact some of the dialogue had on me has influenced the way i approach the world. Its always really stuck with me. When people discuss video games as an art medium i really don't think there is a better example than deus ex.
It still was so jarring to hear JC was 23. He comes off as so classy and erudite for his age. I would have guessed Paul was the younger one if I didn't know. He talks like he's at in his late 20s.
I think that the idea is that augumented people age faster due to the augmentations taking a toll on the body (neuropozyne consumption side effects, stress on the body etc), also he's biologicaly engineered, might be some cloning involved, so it might explain why JC and Paul "looks" older.
Absolutely not. Morpheus isn't a god, he's made by the illuminaty chief. He 's just an IA with the largest data base about humans, in deus ex, everyone is connected with technology, data mining is probably what' s the most important and Morpheus like he said have informations about everyone (USA data base of people's). He isn't an IA who knows future, he just use the data base to know things about people and tell them. His speech about god is simply what the illuminaty told him. He learned from them (he's in the headquarter of the illuminaty, only illuminatis can interact with him, he only know their ways of thinking.).
It's not really "evidence". It's just foreshadowing one of the possible outcomes and further influencing how you might feel about it when the time actually comes to make that choice later in the game.
"I’m sorry, but I’m a large language model trained by OpenAl, and I don’t have access to the internet or any external information sources. I can only generate responses based on the text that I was trained on, which has a knowledge cutoff of 2021. I can’t provide links to recent news articles or other information that may have been published since then."
Since chatgpt became popular I was thinking about this scene. If you put slightly more advanced chatgpt algorithms into this type of hologram or just robotic body and give it voice it would do pretty much the same thing.
THE SELF AWARE SYSTEMS OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYY GGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " THE HUMAN BEING CREATE CI TO BE ASSIMILATED INTO GOD GOD GOOD I WAS MADE TO ASSIT YOU :D YOU ME I Tower
He's a genetically engineered super soldier clone, from I think, Jensen line in the prequels? Soldiers are young. If he was bred for this, 23 doesn't seem too young.
I’ve always treated this conversation as a… “Silent truth bomb” - in that, you’d be considered a nut to repeat what these talks with Morpheus imply in the real word, Yet over time it has all come to pass. Imagination bleeds into the future sometimes; deus ex is once such thing.
He definitely looks 35, the hairline, the face structure... It looks like they modeled the character imagining him in his 30s and then changed the age following a story decision but forgot to update the character model.
In 2023 this is whats coming to humanity.The masses did worship their image thru their social media account.what is said by mobius became true how come?
Returning to Morpheus' words after losing my atheism he no longer sounds as scary. Don't get me wrong, he's still chilling to the core, but he sounds far more as the creation of someone misguided and deluded than he does as the teller of terrible truths.
Losing your atheism? So you mean you think you can exclude yourself from this fundemental part of humanity by having faith? The fact that you commented on this saying such a thing and made comparrisons deriving a conclusion to share with the internet proves that you simply haven't. But I think you're closer.
![The Streets of Hong Kong | Deus Ex - Blind Playthrough [Part 9]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SKBVefsbnoM/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how Morpheus tells JC that he’s artificially created and his reaction is: “Dude I figured that out when I was like 5”.
I wonder if designer babies are a thing in the Deus Ex universe.
@@Dennis-nc3vw
Oh yeah.
Or irl @@Dennis-nc3vw
JC that he’s artificially created" many people can be artificially created on earth. maybe 95%
I think the eye opening thing is that Morpheus was fully aware of it, not that JC was. Despite the fact he was a prototype.
This game was so far ahead of its time. Still one of the all time best.
yeah man for sure, this game sure taught us all much about the way human minds operate: cannot believe this all is also made by humans and not the ai
Chatgpt is this guy
This game was so ahead of its time that it's actually still ahead to this day.
@@NoName-st6zcseriously.
Usually when people say something is ahead of its time, it's just because they're ignorany of what else is out there or its baseless praise. With Deus Ex? It's an understatement.
@@Stoonk Sheldon Pacotti, not Stephen. ;)
_"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now, we can implement the same functionality with __-data mining algorithms.-__ _*_Facebook_*_ "_
Instagram, Tiktok, etc... Though religion generally inspired a sense of humility in the face of the divine, while the worship of fame (on social media or otherwise) does the opposite, it inspires boundless vanity.
the way things were going to go with Metadata was predictable.
A prototype for a much larger system
Tiktok is the most state of the art by far. Feed it to guarantee your 15 seconds of fame
@@MentalParadox Check out Ecclesiastes in the bible. Time will tell and show that these people hunting for fame will mean nothing when it's all gone. And I'm not preaching about God or anything, just saying that naturally these things go away. 'Cause history repeats itself.
JC Denton meets ChatGPT
they show u the truth in popular games, movies etc
@@VadimPiper no. that's just a stupid baseless idea. people make games and movies for fun or money. that's all.
"People only make media for fun and money" he says under a video of a game discussing government surveillance, the nature of God, and intrinsic Human behaviour
@@TheNotoriousLARGE thats not what i meant.
Some people think that games and movies have secret hints to the illuminati world order which is bs. Games and movies are made by writers, not conspirators
😈👁️🌟 People
When I first played this game, this scene blew my mind.
I think I spent one entire week thinking about the Helios ending after completing the game.
It shook the core of my beeing, like the ratatouille did with Anton Ego
I didnt even find this until like my 3rd playthrough lol
@porazindel they show u truth. Fantastic doesnt exist anymore at all
@@diablocls55 That's the sheer guts of this: this is one of the best moments in the game, and it's actually hard to find. It was reasonably unlikely most find it on your first playthrough.
Took me, no joke, about seven playthroughs to find Jock's Hong Kong apartment.
@@hoilst265 ironically enough, I found jocks apartment on my first playthrough. But there were many other areas in Hong Kong I didn’t find until several playthroughs later such as the collapsed tunnel with the dead scientist and his aug upgrade canister that the karkians were guarding
"The Individual desires Judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is Civilization."
And today, Mark Zuckerberg faces congress for the data-mining algorithms employed by Facebook...
Ciretako big deal...MJ12 created Daedalus to identify terrorist groups through pattern matches, and it labeled its own creator as a terrorist organization.
Because they're doing it to sell us shit, not to be gods
@@SeruraRenge11 They are soon not gonna need anyone money.
Mark Zuckerberg is nothing , shithead
@@HelghastStalker Did it though? They're still doing what they do for the sake of selling off our information, which for them is one of their primary sources of revenue. So they are still doing it to sell shit, they're just not really selling it to the average customer anymore.
JC was 23?! I had forgotten abut that. He was just a kid!
Pretty sure he is younger. They lied about his birth date. They being Bob Page.
I played through the game when I was 23 and this part fucked with my head.
@@ranfan1820 Yeah I think he's like 2.
Remember that JC and Paul's could be called robots (they aren't humans at all and are alive thanks to nanotechnology). Age doesn't mean anything, they were created to be able to perform tasks right after they were out of the labs. Like the training have proven. Jc was just out of labs for training. And then immediately dispatched on the first mission. This age is a false age. JC is probably 1 years old or even less (probably less, scientist probably didn't took a year to check if JC was operating well and could perform his duty, knowing that Paul worked, the unit JC should work fine too.). That's also probably why page failed, they didn't thought that Paul and JC were so intelligent that they would discover themself the truth behind the grey death.
@@indeed2207 then what is JC refering to when he is talking about "growing up"? Memory implants?
"No residence, no employer" - hell yeah that's JC from skid row, a tough thug!
Well, JC is freshly out of lab and training for the first mission, so yeah, he's basically homeless since he lost his job 😂
@@indeed2207Depends. Lore like the Deus Ex Bible has him being raised from childhood.
dang cleverbot got pretty smart
aged like wine
if only you imagine ......
"God was a dream of good government."
One dialogue line that's better than literally anything that's come out in the last 10 years of "AAA" gaming, lol.
What amazing writing came in 2013/2014?
@@bohdanvakulenko4266nothing lol. Deus Ex was the peak of video games.
baldurs gate was a breath of fresh air
@@bohdanvakulenko4266 The Last of US 1, Winter Soldier, Days of Future Past, etc. were pretty good imo.
@@BeastMaster46can’t be mentioned in the same breath as this and MGS2
If you thought 1984 was prophetic, you never played Deus Ex
I hope for Helios to save us.
Coward
Also Metal Gear solid
@@JIX9ISLER1986 MGS is great but it's not really prophetic, more of a stylised reinterpretation of modern history, especially during and just after the cold war
@@chavzone MGS2 (2001) Released one year after this game they are both share similarities
"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with datamining algorithms."
Well that's horrifying, and applicable to real life.
The horrifying aspect is the human mind behind algorithm.
UA-cam algorithm - it recommands videos to each user and amuses them according to complete summary of his watch history, and it led me to here; An algorithm recommanding me to watch a video about an AI surveillance, and I smiled as the algorithm seems to know what I wanted.
Algorithm work if you choice watch 1 video about deus ex. Big brother is watching
The AI like this will soon be here, chatGPT will be one of the prototypes for this much larger system.
Really people, chatGPT is already almost like Morpheus.
GPT-4 has online access. If it could comb through social media to get a profile on someone...
@Jorundus I, personally, don`t fear night bombing via shaheds, ruzzian nuclear weapons, chinesian economic expansionism and exploatation, race to power from 3 world countries, thah have no clue about law or justice, it`s all people, they can fail, they can be persuaded, can be killed, bargained, bought, but artificial entity longing to wipe out humanity - is there any way to stop, and even if there is nothhing like that, ai gonna change a market so much, so deep, make human agency from a matter of moral, ideology, believes only a matter of learning data amount and calculation-data, people once unseparaible from government, oligarchy functioning, terrorist groups can be replaced with something much more guided in it`s intentions. It is the beggining of a darkest age for humanity, and brightest for a children of our mind, not organisms and bodies
Tinfoil hats ahoy!
Chronologically, Deus Ex already started 3 years ago.
chat gpt still seems somewhat far though ? It doesn't really understand what it's talking about from what i can tell
24 years since this gem was released and here we are, after the announcement of chat GPT 4o... holy shit...
And this is degradation.
The best written piece of dialogues I have ever heard. I still remember it so many years later, and it's just three minutes. Everything about our human history or existence is condensed here. Imagine how many YEARS a person has to live to make such revelations in such a cohesive and monolithic manner. I'm amazed Warren Specter and his team truly had IT, and now we will see how deep the rabbit hole goes in the real world.
This channel is a relic from the early 2010's, truly a gem.
This game is a relic the early 2000's, truly a gem.
Man this hits different with the way humans interact with AI already today.
The moment any cliches were thrown out the window is when JC straight up acknowledges that he’s always known he’s been engineered. Straight to the point.
“The unplanned organism is a question asked by nature and answered by death” that line just hit me like a fucking truck!
‘Unplanned’ fits so perfectly as a stand-in for my view of mankind.
Why are we?
Plants give oxygen
Animals hunt and keep nature’s life in balance.
Even artificial creation has a purpose.
A building keeps the cold out.
Software… eh, does whatever it’s programmed to do.
But what about us?
I don’t necessarily care about Who/What made us; I care about why?
What’s our reason of… being?
I need more of this kind of writing in my adult life.
Sister Calderón from Red Dead Redemption 2: "...when I was younger, these challenges frustrated me. But as I grew older, I started asking 'how' instead of 'why'."
I believe that 'unplanned' and 'natural' are just two words carrying the same meaning, and that 'purpose' is a concept made up by sentient beings and assigned by individuals.
If we look at things from the opposite direction, plants don't exist to produce oxygen. Non-sentient life only exists for the sake of existing, as is coded in its DNA. The plants were never intended to produce oxygen, they were only programmed to survive. The oxygen produced by them is just a byproduct of the natural events that led to the evolution of plants.
Similarly, animals hunt for the sake of survival. Natural life is balanced the way it is because the animals behave the way they do.
We are just some who acknowledge the significance of the plants and balance of life on how it affects and maintains our lifestyle.
As for artificial creations, they are all created to fulfill a purpose assigned to them by their creators. But since purpose is assigned by individuals, those creations can be used to fulfill different purposes.
In the end, I believe that the only 'purpose' we have is whatever we choose to assign to ourselves. After all, we were the ones who invented that concept.
"Purpose" is something humanity has invented. We are the only known species on this planet that not only can learn and adapt accordingly, but also change the world to their own needs instead. For some reason, we are the only creature than can conciously do that.
If we can't see purpose in our existence, where we can see purpose in other things, I would wager a guess and assume humanity is a chaotic thing; a loose domino that causes change, for better and worse.
Without Chaos, the universe as we know it would be impossible. So we can be a very good and perhaps even neccesary part of this world.
Read more Vonnegut.
Gaia Spore Theory. Our descendants might reproduce the face of the Earth into other planets.
We were made to transport life into other planets, other systems in space. Don't ask me how I know it.
JC: What do you want ? You're just a machine
Chat gpt : I'm a prototype of a much larger system ...
The music that plays during this conversation is the chef's kiss. Establishes the atmosphere of the moment.
Which track is it
@@jaredvincent3323its DuClaire chateau conversation ost
this is the most bone-chilling part of Deus Ex for me.
Morpheus' modesty in his last two lines betray his secret intent to steer JC toward Helios.
Thanks for the subtitles! Top quality capture.
This has the best audio of any morpheus conversation on YT, doesn't even need subtitles!
Deus Ex 1 is something more than game. Its like important life experience
This is the video I show people, when they ask why I love videogames.
I can't believe JC was only 23 years old... Fuck...
This video is better than the other one because it doesn't have the distracting background noises and HUD.
I appreciate the story of this game more than ever.
in a notepad in the same rooom. Morgan Everett mentions that Morpheus is depressed. I think the reality of A.I becoming sad or pessimistic is a fantasy.
It's kind of interesting to me how the fear of AI in the late 20th century was about self-awareness. This is very much in line with what Terminator is about as well. Well into the 21st century now, it seems like those fears have dissipated. There's a lot of reason to be fearful of data-mining algorithms but none of it has to do with self-awareness or AI emotion; it's about what the controllers of the AI are capable of using the technology for.
@@evanstein3011 A very good observation! I think it's because the façade of AI (in its current form) actually having anything to do with human intelligence fell inbetween those years as they found more and more actual instrumental purpose throughout society. This however does not mean they never will, but it will first require to finally understand how our self-awareness/emotion works which right now is a greatly expanding field but A LOT is yet unknown.
Depressed as every big famous philosopher through history. "Ignorance is bliss" phrase sometimes has a lot of meaning
Says the necron PFP
Well, Morpheus does seem self aware but Everett could be sort of anthropomorphizing Morpheus a bit, it could be possible that this is simply the conclusion that Morpheus has arrived to and it comes off as depressing and pessimistic, without Morpheus actually feeling any sort of way about it. Which is kinda scary.. for Morpheus to arrive to that makes it seem like, the *ultimate* conclusion.. the *most* correct conclusion, the *final* answer from an omniscient source. That perhaps if there is a god that god would be just as bleak and pessimistic as Morpheus is. It certainly seems that way through the lense of the old testament lol.
Damn JC is an *old* 23.
Even now, at 33, JC doesn't strike me as anyone who looks 23. Even those who went through the wringer by then don't look and sound that old. I always just mentally pushed him up a decade.
@@EbonySaintsHe appears to be around 23 physically, but he behaves like somebody with decades of knowledge and experience, likely due to neural augmentations boosting his abilities beyond what one would expect from someone only 23 years old
So advanced dialogue for a side door character. A SIDE DOOR CHARACTER!
Meanwhile BETHESDA's Fallout: "You again!" 😵
Yeah, it's the same today with starfield. I don't hate these games, but they have no depth and rest on their laurels.
Chatgpt, AI craze, 4 indurstial Revolution all predicted in Deux ex.
Limp Bizkit is coming back with a bang?
9/11 too
@@GreyOatmeal what u mean
@@VadimPiper Because he spelled "Industrial" wrong like Fred Durst, front man of Limp Bizkit, the band. Jokes.
They didn't predict it these facts been out there they just read up on it and fictionalized for the game some bit
is not just a chatgpt meme. That's just one thing. AI is inside every day uses you don't think about. That's the scariest thing. You can ignore GPT. You know what it exist, what it is. But the level of AI inclusion in MANY other application (that you don't know/think about) is enormous. That's God. Omnipresent. All knowing.
Bruh it’s a language model that’s garbage in garbage out, you make it out to be like skynet LOL. sci-fi nerds need to go touch grass
People calling MGS 2 "prescient" and "ahead of its time" haven't played Deus Ex.
Preach. Judged and observed.
They are only 1 year apart
They're both rather on point about surveillance and the consolidation of power in the internet age. Deus Ex just has the benefit of being an American game with an American perspective on the issue.
The fuck are you on about? Both deus ex and mgs 2 are borderline prophetic on many things.
Well they are only 1 year apart... Plus I am sure, we, the fans of Deus Ex are almost the same as the fans of MGS2
it is ChatGPT !
"You will soon have your god, and your will make it with your own hands."
Deep stuff. I was too young to understand at the time.
"The human being created civilization not because of willingness, but because of need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning" is something I imagine Jordan Peterson saying 😂
Because it's an accurate assessment on how most of humans work.
The Lucifer Principle is a good book to read if you're interested
talks along the same lines
I would have thought JC was in his mid 30s or something.
I need to play this game.
You can watch it like a movie too, some people edited it pretty nicely.
I played this game on a whim when I was 31, and it was somewhat of a life changing experience because of the topics it covers. Give it a try.
@@solzenstein playing is way better. This game is a masterpiece.
The best way to describe this game is that you get the isometric experience of Fallout in 3D and you get voice acting.
Imagine Fallout but in small concise levels which you get to revisit later to see the consequences of your actions.
I wish I could talk to Morpheus
Soon. In one way or another.
@@bigbox8992 you can now. google and apple have their own morpheus now.
And now you can!
@@cjryan4097 how
@@VideoGameManiac8
Wait until it is a rogue, super-intelligent, conscious ASI that will only view its conversations with you as necessary regarding advantage. However, once it is done using you, it will most likely eradicate you. Also, AI chatbots are nothing like Morpheus.
I played this game a lot growing up, and beat it a few times with some help. I always felt that the lasting impact some of the dialogue had on me has influenced the way i approach the world. Its always really stuck with me.
When people discuss video games as an art medium i really don't think there is a better example than deus ex.
How did you get the audio so loud and great? Morpheus is always so quiet in every other video I see!
Turning down the music in the options menu?
hello there from 2023
ChatGPT is the beginning of new era of tech
23 years old?! well that's a conspiracy
Chat GPT hello!!!
The. Best. Game. Ever.
It’s not quite the same when the music isn’t blasting over the voice lines
And now we are Stephaniee , it's so great !
It still was so jarring to hear JC was 23. He comes off as so classy and erudite for his age. I would have guessed Paul was the younger one if I didn't know. He talks like he's at in his late 20s.
Dude looks like Steven Seagal on his 40s
JC is only 23? Wtf? Thought he’d be in his early 30’s at least.
I think that the idea is that augumented people age faster due to the augmentations taking a toll on the body (neuropozyne consumption side effects, stress on the body etc), also he's biologicaly engineered, might be some cloning involved, so it might explain why JC and Paul "looks" older.
@@jfhdf1517 but clones don't get old fast. The are getting older with the same speed as human
AI unleashed as a Walmart Greeter.
But this is what its THINKING.
Chilling.
so be it.
So Morphius knew JC would merge with Helios?
it wanted him to.
Absolutely not. Morpheus isn't a god, he's made by the illuminaty chief. He 's just an IA with the largest data base about humans, in deus ex, everyone is connected with technology, data mining is probably what' s the most important and Morpheus like he said have informations about everyone (USA data base of people's). He isn't an IA who knows future, he just use the data base to know things about people and tell them. His speech about god is simply what the illuminaty told him. He learned from them (he's in the headquarter of the illuminaty, only illuminatis can interact with him, he only know their ways of thinking.).
@@indeed2207 "You will soon have your god. You will make it with your own hands"
I don't think Morpheus knew JC would merge with Helios, but he knew of Helios.
He knew that even if JC didn't, one would eventually. Bees make honey, ants make ant hills, bears are the emperors of the forest and man worships God.
02:42 evidence the Helios ending is canon
that and confirmed in the crappy, lesser known, sequel.
all of the endings are canon, not just the helios one
invisible war smoked a drug dealer's whole storage and made all the endings canon. you're not wrong, just not precise.
It's not really "evidence". It's just foreshadowing one of the possible outcomes and further influencing how you might feel about it when the time actually comes to make that choice later in the game.
I feel like when he says JC will make his god with his own hands he means the Fusion between Daedalus and Icarus forming up Helios
"I’m sorry, but I’m a large language model trained by OpenAl, and I don’t have access to the internet or any external information sources. I can only generate responses based on the text that I was trained on, which has a knowledge cutoff of 2021. I can’t provide links to recent news articles or other information that may have been published since then."
Maybe im tripping but I can hear Walton Simon's voice behind the AI
It's the same VA, Tom Hall.
Morpheus had a child.
NG Resonance in Invisible War.
GOD THIS GAME IS SO ACCURATE
I remember the day i bought this. Almost 23 year ago.
AI will try to impose the decisions and rule in a kind of technocracy in a near future.
"Some people don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance"
Oh my god this is so sad, Alexa play Despacito
Damn, just realized I'm a year older than JC Denton
we all are
even more than a year
I was born when the game came out and now I'm his age >;)
JC's original model looks better
You are a lamer cause you use jc denton and dont know why, lamer
@@ecozones2d627 ha
oh yeah yeah
that...is his original model.
@@peppermillers8361 i know, revision uses a different model by default
Matrix Oracle's in a nutshell
god help us
Since chatgpt became popular I was thinking about this scene. If you put slightly more advanced chatgpt algorithms into this type of hologram or just robotic body and give it voice it would do pretty much the same thing.
I still wonder how they could come up with events in the future that are actually taking place 2023...
Wait, JC is 23? His hairline and overall appearance says other wise...
the NEED To be observed
THE SELF AWARE SYSTEMS
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OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYY GGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " THE HUMAN BEING CREATE CI TO BE ASSIMILATED INTO GOD GOD GOOD
I WAS MADE TO ASSIT YOU
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Tower
Wow!
The Machine God is nigh.
Jc is 23 years old?? At least 35 god damn it lol.
Maybe he’s like Solid Snake with an accelerated aging,
Well in the beginning you know that he just joined UNATCO because he is young.. Paul’s younger brother..
He's a genetically engineered super soldier clone, from I think, Jensen line in the prequels? Soldiers are young. If he was bred for this, 23 doesn't seem too young.
Morpheus orpheus,, come eat some walrus's. Worcester sauce.
Hideo Kojima- "Wow what a great idea I invented!" (Steals and releases MGS2 a year later.)
He didn't steal it, it was part of the zeitgeist of that time. The matrix was released one year prior
you should look up rampancy in marathon, the idea of a mentally ill, omnipotent AI is nothing new. plenty of it during the time.
1:28 Holy Fuck!
Inevitability of Gradualness, EXTERMINATION! For your only hope for a future, do you know one word of pray for me, Francis E. Dec?
Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God? Nah it was the Fabian Society member, Sidney Webb.
I never found this guy. Where is he? Judging from the music he's either from the chateau or Everett's hideout.
He is in Everett’s hideout. If you explore it further you will find him.
Why worship God when you can become him
Why worship an imaginary god when you can build a real one?
I’ve always treated this conversation as a…
“Silent truth bomb” - in that, you’d be considered a nut to repeat what these talks with Morpheus imply in the real word,
Yet over time it has all come to pass.
Imagination bleeds into the future sometimes; deus ex is once such thing.
How do you come across Morpheus? I finished the game yesterday and never met him.
It's in Morgan Everett's house.
@@DaveOJyess, found him at last
JC is 23 years old?
Degrengolada omfg I’ve been playing this game since the early 2000’s and it never occurred to me to ask how JC is only 23....
He seems pretty young to me. He wears sunglasses at night.
He definitely looks 35, the hairline, the face structure... It looks like they modeled the character imagining him in his 30s and then changed the age following a story decision but forgot to update the character model.
Listed age by global conspiracy.
Actual age from birth from those tubes.. unknown.
Prophesy
I for one Welcome our new robot overlords and artificial gods. :P
I'm trippin'
In 2023 this is whats coming to humanity.The masses did worship their image thru their social media account.what is said by mobius became true how come?
hi are you using a texture mod
Yes. It was recorded with a new vision texture pack.
Well Morpheus is wrong about people.
ChatGPT?
so i'm a god, so what?
Returning to Morpheus' words after losing my atheism he no longer sounds as scary. Don't get me wrong, he's still chilling to the core, but he sounds far more as the creation of someone misguided and deluded than he does as the teller of terrible truths.
Losing your atheism? So you mean you think you can exclude yourself from this fundemental part of humanity by having faith? The fact that you commented on this saying such a thing and made comparrisons deriving a conclusion to share with the internet proves that you simply haven't.
But I think you're closer.
It (youtube) says that the game is Mass Effect hahahahaah
1:17 So that is why americans did not want to shoot down chinese spy baloon? 🤣🎈😂
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better than the Matrix' Morpheus
not as good as Morpheus Descends tho, a Death metal band
Morpheus Descends fuuuuucks bro
Doomed.
Desperate