Baby serial killer nurse Lucy Letby given whole-life sentence - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2023
- Nurse Lucy Letby, who was unmasked as the UK's most prolific child serial killer in modern times, has been given a whole-life sentence with no chance of parole.
The 33 year old was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six other infants at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
Letby deliberately injected babies with air, force-fed others milk and poisoned two of the infants with insulin.
She refused to appear in the dock for her sentencing hearing.
Letby will face the rest of her life behind bars, becoming only the fourth woman in UK history to receive such a sentence.
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Those on high level of hospital administration who ignored the concerns at the time should be brought to court too.
The nurse's supervisors must also be charged.
Imagine; she went through years and years of training, studying, etc.... then years of work, in order to get into that position and end those babies lives, for absolutely no reason. Truly evil.
Yet there was no evidence of guilt. I'm astonished that someone can be convicted based upon conjecture and circumstantial evidence.
@@paulroberts7544are you her mom or something? She’s been found guilty for a reason
@@clairewillow6475 so have a lot of people, been found guilty only to be proved innocent.
@@paulroberts7544 the evidence that only one death has happened since she was removed is overwhelming
@@paulroberts7544 : lots of evidence, Silence is agreement. Just the way she greeted the cops screams guilty
If a cop came to my door like that, I would ask them first what this pertains to , my husband and family will be at the door demanding answers and if they accuse me of anything, I would say let me call my lawyer. She knows exactly what they came in for . Even that is an admission if guilt and that was just the s beginning
I am a dentist and would never let an assistant mistreat my patients so the pain of those doctors , I can’t even imagine
Don’t worry she has a whole life in loneliness to think about her crimes. In the eyes of the court and every parent who loves their children , she is guilty
The management should also be brought under justice
Management have blood on there hands. They investigated claims but sent her a letter apologising for investigating. Absolutely shocking
Send them to lran
The management at that hospital should be charged too. They tried to keep things hush hush and cost more kids their lives by doing so.
As a mother who had a premature baby born in Kingston hospital at 1pound 14 ounces, I can't until this day thank them enough for the love and the care they gave to my daughter, and she is now 20, all the things we went thru medically the neonatal nurse and doctors were amazing,sometimes I look on her and cried how blessed I am, so to see someone like her did this horror and taint the medical field she should be in court while getting her sentence they need to change this law, very cold hearted she is and disrespectful.
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
Lucy's mother said that she is a staunch progressive and advocate for planned parenthood and wanted abortion made legal up to 9 months.
I had 3 premature babies (first son and twin girls one year after). Twins died unfortunately but doctors and nurses did everything they could and even more to save them. It was just not meant to be. And I'll be grateful to them as well for their compassion and love❤
Liberalism is literally killing us as a people.
I had a premature baby aswell he was 2 lb and is the biggest most incredible blessing in my life. This horrific situation hits me so different because the medical staff at our hospital were absolutely amazing. To think this demon would do this is unimaginable. I pray to god that whatever she has left in her life it is an unimaginable horror every single day. What she has done is UNFORGIVABLE
"She refused to appear in the dock for her sentencing hearing." The UK court system is interesting. In the US they would've forced her to come and I think that's the right move. You shouldn't be able to hide from justice at any point of this process.
Right? She’s a coward of the highest order. Despicable.
UK is far far to soft!
This country really is going to shit
I think there might be a change in the law. There were discussions about it on Channel 5 news.
Refuse to appear in court is insanely ridiculous.
As an American I realize our justice system needs a lot of work. The fact that the uk doesn't require the defendent to listen to both impact statements and attend sentencing is insane to me. The whole point of victim impact statements is to be able to look the defendent in the eye and tell them how horrible they are. Seems like the defendent not being there takes a lot of the catharsis out of it.
Ikr? That kinda bs would never fly here in the US. We at LEAST have that distinction! 😕
The American justice system is much better than the UK's, which is soft as all fuck
It often delays the process and doesn't always have the cathartic effect the victims hope it would have
She deserves a special place in hell for her heinous crimes!
Like many I am appalled that she is unable to be compelled to attend, but I do understand that coercing an unwilling prisoner to the dock could be disruptive, and perhaps besmirch the dignity of the murdered victims. However I do think judges should be able to stray from sentencing guidelines if the convicted chooses not to attend. Of course it does not apply in this case as she has been given a whole life tariff, but it could be that refusal to attend could result in more rigorous conditions being met before parole can be considered.
Honestly, I'm not trying to score points on US vs. UK, I was struck by the patience of the judge in the Darrel Brooks case, and how easy it appeared for the clown to try and run the circus.
How about those should be accountable for allowing her working in the ward despite those doctors raised the issues? 🤔
Arrest management
The doctors were made to APOLOGIZE TO LUCY. The management let those poor babies down, let their parents and siblings down. Shame!
@@gpal4843Top class comment 🫡
@@Sasquatch_123Managerial incompetence
@@Sasquatch_123Absolutely beyond disgusting!
Her repulsive and deplorable acts were made even more evil by the fact that she was a trusted medical care “professional”. Then there is the hospital management who did nothing and threatened to punish the doctors who raised concerns over her . They are also responsible and need to be held criminally accountable for covering it up and allowing the murders to continue. I can’t imagine the grief and betrayal that the little babies families must feel, but hope that they are given grief therapy.
Exactly! Management should face consenquences too!
You're so right, the hospital management should be charged with negligence as they are also accountable for patient safety. When the events (babies died) kept happening in a very short period, they should be aware and initiate the investigation. Patient safety is the prime priority, but obviously, the management looked at the hospital's reputation and profits before the patient life. This is criminal, and they should be sentenced too.
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7noabortion isnt murder, most abortions happen at 6 weeks with a simple pill when there isnt even a brain yet. stop equating it to the murder of a living, developed human being outside the womb.
There are some people in management who have a hell of a lot of soul searching to do it would seem if newspaper reports are to be believed, I hope too that the inquiry is not a whitewash like so many before it. As for needing therapy, some good seeing an overpaid shrink will do them after this, but I hope the community comes together to help them, do we still have a British community, if not I hope they have their own strong community to rally round.
The senior management of the hospital MUST now be brought to book. They contributed towards this by their inaction and concern more for reputational damage than concern for potential victims. Chambers, Rees, Cross et al MUST be made to testify and if anyone is proven to have mismanaged the situation, they must be served justice as Letby has been.
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
If they haven’t done already…they will be moved to a different job ….or given a golden handshake…which is the norm in the NHS …!
God disIikes Abortion
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7nothat’s completely different and you know it!
@@tonyedwards2693An exclamation mark lol. Someone get under your skin Tony? It's not that different and you know it.
The surviving children and the families of those who were attacked by Lucy Letby must be terrified of hospitals and medical staff from now on and they will need prolonged care. I hope the Nurses and Doctors that treat these children as extremely professional and provide the highest quality of care. They have been through far too much in such a short time of being alive. This story is shocking.
Lucy Letby is an extreme outlier. Nurses take great care of their patients 99.9% of the time. Serial killers can have any job, an architect was just arrested where I live in NY.
Hello
Nurses are there to provide healthcare. Taking human life can never be healthcare.
On a side note this could be a preamble to dismantle NHS and give it to private hands .how many Lucy alike are there in private ? Do we know ..these are innocent babies
In the UK the laws are draconian. Im glad in this case.
She won't get killed by the cons, she will hopefully be put on a 28day laydown on rule43.
This means your moved anytime and put in a strip cell, then after 24hrs and no longer that 28days your moved, this happens non stop, they piss in your food so you cant eat, kick shit out of you by "restraining you" they have power of everything over you... and it's legal.
Its broken some of the hardest of hard men, she will suffer a breakdown then they will keep doing it.. over and over and over.
She will suffer, i know this as ive been there, they do it too cons who kill or attack screws...
Have faith, she will suffer too the end.
now its time for the hospital managers to be prosecuted
My friend does IT in high security prisons, male and female.
He says the female prisons are worse, in terms of atmosphere, general conduct, and intimidation from the prisoners.
Just imagine how well she will be received!
good then I hope it gets worse for her
Your friend is either lying, or very mistaken.
They will make her life hell.
She will hopefully be tortured till the end.
That's because if you start something in a male prision you are risking serious bodily harm or death lol
The case of Dutch paediatric nurse Lucia de Berk might be considered relevant. She too was convicted of murdering seven patients but later freed after a successful appeal.
But we still need to talk about the managers who were warned of her behaviors without reaction.
Let’s not forget her superiors that didn’t investigate properly
I still don't understand how this is still allowed to happen. It's just beyond me. Didn't lessons get learned after Beverley Allitt ....
Madness.
It wasn't allowed to happen. That's why there was an investigation, an arrest and a trial...... "Allowed" wtf
I'm the same..I really just don't understand both her motive(s) & how it happened again & again......I feeling sad for the families & the doctors/consultants who did say something, & then were made to apologise for making such an accusation against a nurse.... It's all very odd, & any inquiry (esp. into the hospital trust management) is obviously far too late...
I assumed there would be cameras in every ward with vulnerable patients, neonatal, children, intensive care, coma patients etc. Abusers like Saville and Letby would definitely think twice about doing anything.
Serial killers don't come with signs around their necks .They live in plain sight in every walk of life and in every profession.
Unless anyone displays what might be deemed obvious outward signs of behaviour they maybe considered suspicious, and then it's almost impossible to catch them.
@@chrisholland7367 but that doesn't mean you ignore warning signs.
Also they need to charge the manager who threatened to discipline the employees who initially brought up the concerns about this murderer!
I agree but it never happens does it? How many times do we hear "lesson's will heard". This woman in charge of nurses on 130,000 a year will no doubt be sidelined to another position.
Sorry meant "lesson's will be learned" (senior moment) 😊
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My heart goes out to the families of all the precious babies both the ones who lost their lives and the ones whose lives and whose parents lives have been so dreadfully affected by this monster who didn’t have the guts to face the families. Shame on her. She should have been made to stay in court and listen to all the victim statements
She won a one-way ticket to lran.
Crane is ready for her.
This story has made it all the way to U.S. I can not believe her horrible actions. Those poor sweet babies who depended on her. What did they ever do to her? Those poor parents who have to struggle for the rest of their lives.
Around 30 years ago my father was a funeral director in Bristol and I remember him many times expressing concern about the number of baby deaths in the main hospital in the city. He expressed his concerns to them but was told to mind his own business. In the end, it came out there was a similar thing. So sad it's happened again. So sorry for the families. The management should be held even more accountable as they were supposed to look out for these things. Clearly, there was something wrong with her and they had the job to help and care. They didn't..
Yes it seemed management covered it up.
I hope the truth will come out, she needed saving from herself it seems. If they had done their jobs properly... I know my dad was so brokenhearted that he saw it and was powerless. He died young of stress.
@@richardedwards7780 It's 10 months since your post after the Lucy Letby sentencing. (5 July 2024.) Thank you for sharing these memories of your father and the anguish he experienced over the spike in infant deaths. /Sometimes it can be impossible to speak to Unaccountable Power. We've all seen examples of people who went public to broadcast or publish their suspicions about something, and whose lives were subsequently destroyed. I suspect that even his professional association would have also shut him down at the time. (UK Funeral Directors Association?). And extremely unlikely to get the attention of any police specialists without the hospital first reporting their concerns. I think that same dilemma came out in the Lucy Letby case. That police don't have the authorisation to just enter a hospital department and commence investigations.
@@comealongcomealong4480 He didn't get any backlash, as far as I know, but nothing was done. It took years and many deaths. Until this wicked world is cleared away there will sadly always be something that shocks us to the core. Thanks for replying..!
truly evil, not even 1% the pain and suffering she caused can be repaid. I hope the families affected get all the help they can. rest in peace little ones
The evidence is weak to non existence... She sounds like a patsy for an organ harvesting scam.... The case of Dutch paediatric nurse Lucia de Berk might be considered relevant. She too was convicted of murdering seven patients but later freed after a successful appeal.
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7noNow you are just spamming every post you read. Find another place to stick your soapbox.
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no Completely false equivalence. New account I see. 🙄
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no bit hypocritical when you're such wan*** lol
Even worse is the lifelong sentence she caused for the parents who’s children died and for the parents and children who survived but harmed for life. Unimaginable and horrific crime
lran is waiting for her.
Crane is ready.
Let’s face it, this was the only sentence appropriate other than a death sentence. Now it’s time for the hospital administrators and others who allowed this to happen to face charges and prison…..they allowed this to happen even after being warned by the consultants on the ward.
They should of just gave her the chair no sponge, better than spending life in prison waisting tax payer dollars. Prison is supposed to be for people that can be reformed back into society eventually, that can only mean they plan on letting her go long before her sentence is over. Given the Justice systems track record with female offenders I’m willing to bet she’ll be out by the time she’s 50-60 cause of “good behavior” it’s a joke tbh but it’s happens.
@dbzcollector9963 you misunderstood the judge and the sentence. They're throwing the key away. She's put away for life.
@@benijenyes, unless the law is changed or she successfully appeals against the whole life tariff she won't ever be released.
@@benijen still a waist of tax money imo, like I said jail is supposed to be for people that can be reformed. Why waist the space and money if they don’t plan on ever letting her out?
@dbzcollector9963 jail is not only for reform. It is for bringing punishment for crimes.
Well done to DR Ravi 👏👏👏 and his team x for catching this monster.
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7noThere’s a difference. The parents gave their consent to exterminate the baby.
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no a lot different and you know it 🤦🏾
@@notoriousfly9260 the baby didn’t consent to being slaughtered. It is defenseless & can’t fight back.
Alison Kelly needs to be charged for covering it up and therefore enabling the murders of more babies
YES!!!! Let that monster rot in jail for the rest of her life! There is nothing more evil than murdering innocent children and any lower sentence would be unjust!
Government do it all the time. Torys are doing right now.
@@davidgill8996Explain yourself....
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no They are not babies. Read a book some time.
@@AmberPandaunderground paedophile rings and child trafficking by satanic elites
Heartbreaking for all involved, as a parent myself I can’t imagine what Letby’s parents must feel knowing what their daughter has done.
Sad for the parents. Life of the parents will never be the same
7? Why the hospital didn't investigate after the first one???
Agree.
That is good news.The Hospital Authority,should be held responsible
for what happened.
There are no words to describe this horrendous woman. She must never get out from jail. Never.
She basically got life without parole, there is no hope for her ever being freed
Sincerest condolences to all the families involved who've lost all their babies at the hands of this sick monster. A very apt sentence. You take a life. You will serve life. Good.
England needs God
Absolutely abhorrent, sickening case. Made worse by the fact letby was a specialist neonatal nurse. My thoughts are with the parents of all the children affected by letby’s evil actions. The managers and those responsible for the inaction by not investigating this when it was first made known to them, should be held to account, both legally and by the relearn hospital trusts. Whilst no sentence can ever bring a loved one back, I have to applaud the judge in this case, a sentence that (legally) fits the crime.
Time to visit a church
I totally agreed with what u said managers should also be interogate as they are equally responsible.
Just a thought if it was foreign graduate nurse they would hv taken an action at the time it was first pointed out.
As the stepdad of a boy born at 27 weeks weighing 2lb 1oz (he’s now 29 and 6’ 1”!) I pray that she lives a long and miserable life where she is made to suffer for every last day until her final breath! I am incredibly proud of, and thankful for, my stepson who has faced many challenges in his life. What that monster did goes way beyond horrific. I pray that everyone affected by her evil crimes can find some solace in the knowledge that she will rot behind bars for the rest of her miserable existence. My heart breaks for each and every one of you.
May your stepson have a long and healthy life. God bless you and all your family. As far as this POS is concerned, I hope she's around for a very long time. So that she suffers for what she did for all those innocent babies. 😢
Send her to lran. :-)
lran knows how to deaI with her.
Crane is ready.
How did you end up being a step dad of a baby aged 26 weeks? Sounds a bit cucked lad
A fitting and just sentence so so sorry for the victims and their parents
England needs God
That's how you caII that nurse?
@@babblo1389it needs a species ending asteroid. Not a whimsical god.
NHS managers all have blood on their hands unless they ask for radical changes to procedures in cases like this
Fun fact: in Portugal the heaviest sentence is 25 years..
I cannot imagine how painful it would be to have similar case.
punish the management who kept her and did not listen to medical doctors ! punish this hospital management for covering up and allowing 7 babies to die and many more families suffer with disability and pain and anxiety!
Hey how are you doing?😊
I'm fully sad about the victims babies and families.
That woman is an absolute monster. I hope her entire life is utter torture in prison. Make sure she's in general population! No protective custody ever! These management of that hospital, who refused to listen to the warnings of their own doctors and nurses, should face severe consequences as well. It’s unbelievable that they continued to permit this beast access to her victims. It's absolutely infuriating. My heart just shatters for the babies murdered and injured as well as for their suffering families. I can’t believe she was allowed to not be present for sentencing and impact statements. Everything about this case is horrendous.
Except for the judge's decision. This guy gave her the most he could possibly give.
But did she do it. No evidence to say she killed babies was presented.
Another question needs an answer, what about the senior management of the hospital!!
Sending love to all the families of the beautiful babies, I cant imagine what you are going through. ❤
She is the most evil monster I've ever come across, and I pray that she will be dealt with according in prison. May the families that she has destroyed be blessed with strength and peace that justice has finally been served.
Hello how are you doing today..?
She should have been dragged up from the cells to the Dock to face the poor victims and listen to the impact statements and listen to the judge.
Those sick twisted managers at the hospital who didn't believe what the doctors told them about the evil woman years ago also need locking up
I doubt the management were sick and twisted - but they were extremely ignorant, incompetent and did not do anything to safeguard the children in their hospitals care, rather punishing the whistleblowers - they should definitely be made to face the consequences and never be in a position of hospital management, or any management again - they need to face up to their failures and for the damage that failure has done to the publics trust in their profession - it is unfair on competent and caring nursing staff all over the country if they are allowed to walk away from this case
She probably wouldn’t have given a shit
No convicts should have the right to not attend court; they should have the right to be sentenced in their absence
@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO exactly it’s not a justice system it’s a legal system
Where are those Hospital executives? Those that made the doctors apologise to her!
Why did each original autopsy of each baby not pick this up!
Nobody is talking about Tony Chambers and the rest of the management. They should be punished, too.
My heart goes out to all the families who lost their precious babies ❤ Glad Letby got what she deserved.
I don’t understand why the hospital don’t install cameras in those important rooms. Prisons shouldn’t be the first and last step as warning to future murders.
What about the Tust managers who covered for her ? When are they going to be in court ?
shell be protected in prison free food no rent roof over her head shes getting better treatment than homeless people
I don’t think not needing to pay bills makes up for the fact that she will spend the rest of her life behind bars not able to enjoy the pleasures of life
How old are you?
So what do you suggest instead? No food? No roof over her head? Death by firing squad?
@@maxineb9598 why not? do you want her to stay alive? I feel like death by starvation would be fitting here.
all of the above yk what ill be the firing squad@@maxineb9598
Justice served finally😢 thoughts go to all the families involved❤
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
Lucy Letby (born: 4 January, 1990) is a British serial killer and former neonatal nurse.
From 2015 to 2016 she attacked at least thirteen babies in her care, killing seven of them.
Letby was arrested in July 2018 in connection with a series of unusually frequent infant deaths between June 2015 and June 2016 at the Countess of Chester Hospital in Chester, where she had worked as a neonatal nurse since 2011.
After being released on bail she was re-arrested in June 2019 and again in November 2020 in connection with additional infant deaths at the hospital.
On the day after her final arrest she was charged with eight counts of murder and ten counts of attempted murder.
At the conclusion of her trial, which lasted from October 2022 to August 2023, she was found guilty of murdering seven infants and attempting to murder six others during the twelve-month period, making her the most prolific serial killer of children in modern British history.
On 21 August 2023, she opted not to attend court for her sentencing - and in her absence, Justice Goss sentenced her to life imprisonment, with a whole life order.
I don’t understand why she didn’t have to appear. Her refusal to plead guilty at the start made this a long drawn out process, piling on more pain for the families. I’m pretty sure she will maintain her innocence for the rest of her life.
. *JUSTICE IS FINALLY SERVED !!!*
. *GOD BLESS THIS JUDGE.*
Hello how are you doing today?
She refused to appear in the dock? How is that possible? Do you give criminals options to do what they want to do?
Everyone has that right if anything it hurts you
@@RaunchyRoger007She gave up her rights when she killed those babies, they should have forced her to be there, she’s a serial killer.
@@lanavandutch5591 I mean morally your correct but it’s not a justice system it’s a legal system
@@lanavandutch5591 at least she can’t ever do it again
Certain ones yes
There are NHS administrators, the ones that refused to listen to whistleblowing doctors and protected her from even being investigated for months on end, that are JUST as guilty of murder as Lucy Letby. Will they also be charged and prosecuted??
Prayers to all the Families 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
My prayers go to all families involved. I m so very sorry for what you lost and went through. May God give you strength 🙏
Where was god when she was doing what she was doing?
This happens every single day at abortion centres. Where is the justice for those babies?
You imaginary God - ignored all this....facilitated all this!!
Omnipotent and omnipresent ...........but he let this vile woman kill babies!!!!!
@@CraigTheBrute-yf7noyou have 13 comments on this channel. You need to comment on a video about abortion, not here. Nobody is talking you seriously.
@@bertrandrussell894God is fairy story, invented by man to control man.
Being incarcerated is enough punishment in itself. I hope she is treated in a civil way in prison like all prisoners should be. She will be protected anyway from other prisoners.
Okay but did she ever say why she did it? Surely that's important.
Hey how are you doing today?
Justice should be consistent. Killing babies is bad, and perpetrators must be punished. What amazes me is that the authorities pushing covid-19 inoculations to pregnant and nursing women have not faced any consequence.
Hello how are you doing?
Sad thing about her sentence is that she's still alive. But I have the feeling that she won't last long in prison.
In prison Letby will be segregated from the general population for her personal safety.
As far as she's a psychopath, she won't feel sorry, nor regret for what she has done.
As far as she's a baby killer, she's undoubtedly, a huge psychopath.
May she be in prison FOREVER.
Correct sentence. Thank you judge.
The Hospital staff and management who did nothing to stop her too should be punished by law. The parents should be compensated
Whilst the management do have some accountability in this I find it rather unsettling that people are only concentrating on them. It's almost like they're trying to deflect away responsibility from Letby. The management were negligent but Letby was ultimately the one who took the lives of poor innocent babies. She should be the main focus in all of this.
She was able to carry on killing because she was ENABLED by various levels of management.
are you a hospital manager by any chance? just asking for a friend.
@@giopomerol3952 Are you one of Letby's friends or family? Just asking for a friend.
has to be at least 10 years for all who assisted in the murder of babies. All who did not go directly to the police.
Even the judge was visibly shaken when describing her appalling crimes. The bravery of those parents to sit and listen to this disgusting monster's cruelty- it made me shake with horror just listening to it at home. She deserves nothing more than to rot away for the rest of her life.
Yes, I thought that as well given how troubled he looked when describing the horrific details of her offending. Can’t imagine how traumatising it would have been for the jury as well listening to and seeing the evidence of the crimes, thankfully they’ve been excused from any further jury service.
I was absolutely beyond words at this case and absolutely disgusted at the hospital’s actions in telling the consultants to shut up and apologise to the person who turned out was a killer.
Being a parent it's beyond comprehension to do something so evil to the most innocent of human beings, so heartbreaking for all the families rest in peace.
I usually disagree with UK court sentences, but this judge got it right (and they usually fumble the ball when it comes to animals who victimise kids). She should've been giving life, although I thought that would need to be a sentence of "His Majesty's Pleasure" in England?
"His Majesty's Pleasure" is a weird legal term for sentencing underage offenders. For Letby a life sentence with a whole-life order is all that's needed.
Heartbreaking for the parents😔
What about hospital management why aren't any of them getting life sentences?
Unfortunately, my experience, and many, many others, of the nursing staff currently employed by the NHS, is that there are far more abusive nurses at work on hospital wards, than anyone would like to imagine. I’m certain that there are plenty of Lucy Letby’s as yet undiscovered operating within the NHS. The management doesn’t seem to care to do anything about the open casual bullying, humiliation and petty cruel behaviour towards patients, indulged in routinely by their nurses; it’s definitely not a stretch to realise that plenty more serious crimes are being committed on a daily basis by medical staff across UK hospitals. Who’s going to stop it? The hospital bosses, as demonstrated by this case, only seem interested in trying to cover things up; and all the doctors who’ve crawled out of the woodwork to say they tried to raise their concerns over Letby, they could’ve gone to the police themselves, or left an anonymous tip off, but didn’t actually do anything to save those babies either.
It’s time we woke up and got rid of our traditional misty-eyed image of nurses as automatically being altruistic angels, beyond reproach. Some of them are thoroughly nasty bullies, and a hospital full of bedridden, infirm, vulnerable patients is their ideal hunting ground for victims to target and abuse, apparently unchecked by anyone. Others are too scared of losing their jobs, being branded a whistleblower, to speak up. Having spent 4 months on a hospital ward 2 years ago, it was quite frankly shocking how cruel most of the nurses were. Be seriously concerned about needing to be admitted to hospital in the UK, because there are some absolutely awful people working there.
@lornaginetteharrison7168 When you were on the wards, what was the proportion of nurses being nasty in terms of socio-economic background and special category data? Was there any group(s) that particularly stood out? Or was it quite even across the board?
@@ivo7418 Pretty much even across the board. I think bullies exist in all walks of life. Lots of different nationalities, including British. Quite a few were agency staff, getting paid a higher wage for doing the same work as permanent NHS roles, so there was a bit of a resentful divide between the two cliques, with bad attitudes on each side. They seemed to take obvious delight in petty acts of cruelty, deliberately leaving food out of incapacitated patients’ reach, leaving bright lights on over your bed at night so you couldn’t sleep…if you pleaded with them to turn them off, they’d do so for a couple of minutes, then switch them on full blast again, and laugh and walk away.
What was common for all of them was an apparent decision that if any patients needed help during the last hour of the nurses’ shift, they’d be ignored and told that they’d have to wait for the next shift for assistance. Then the next shift would ignore them for at least the first hour of their shift. So you can imagine that several patients were left in pain, or needing help using a bedpan if they were bedridden, particularly the elderly. If they couldn’t hold it, they’d be left in wet/dirty sheets for a couple of hours, then told off for messing themselves. This was obviously very demeaning and humiliating. They often wouldn’t pull the curtains around the bed for privacy either so everyone could see the patient being changed.
Two nurses would regularly make cruel comments about my scars (it was a burn ward, and I had suffered third degree burns to 25% of my body). It was during the pandemic lockdown, so I guess the hospital was desperate for whatever staff they could get. But this meant us patients were even more isolated and vulnerable, because we weren’t allowed any visitors at all. We were effectively cut off from the outside world.
I (somehow!) managed to break my fibula nearly two weeks ago, just walking on the flat wearing flat shoes. I was *_extremely_* reluctant to go to hospital again, to have it checked out. I was all for leaving it, but I was talked into going to a local hospital. I nearly left the waiting room numerous times during my 6 and a half hour wait to be assessed (by a nurse), but the relative who was with me made me stay.
When I eventually went for an x-ray, it was absolute bedlam in the corridors. An elderly gentleman with a broken hip, who was desperate for the loo, was told to urinate into a bottle in front of everyone. We all did our best to look away, but the clearly annoyed nurse made this poor man stand up, with his broken hip, in the middle of the corridor, wearing only a gown and an adult nappy, and basically expose himself to the whole waiting room. I’m pretty sure he was crying, but at that moment I was finally called through for my x-ray. If patients are routinely treated so appallingly, without any dignity at all, right out in the open, it’s no wonder that more serious abuse goes on unchecked behind the scenes.
Apologies for rambling on! I’m just worried at the moment, because there’s still a chance that I’ll need to be admitted into hospital again for an operation to have two screws placed into the break in my ankle, if it doesn’t heal properly. They initially gave me the wrong air cast/boot to wear for the first week, so I was essentially walking around on it potentially doing more damage to my ankle. I’m praying that I won’t ever need to stay as an inpatient at a hospital ever again.
I have personal experiences, and yes management of NHS institutions are as morally corrupt as anyone, they are as corrupt as criminals.
I hope all the parents are happy with this verdict
I wouldn’t be happy until she’s in a box
She's going to prison with other possibly violent women many of whom will have their own children. I hope they make the rest of her life utterly miserable.
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How can someone entrusted with care enact such harm? My condolences to the grieving families; may the verdict provide a glimmer of solace. 🙏
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I'm just wondering if she didn't leave patterns to her devilish trait all along.
How was her childhood?
What do her friends have to say about her person?
When did she become this 'unhuman' being?😢
Now for the management that protected her
I would vote for death penalty,she not deserve to walk earth, absolutely cruel,no hart being....
If UK prisons are like American ones, then she will be taken care of soon enough. Though I still say let the baby’s parents have ten minutes alone in a locked room with her.
Not at all like america 😕
I don't think there is any utility in using words like 'evil' as a descriptor in cases like this even if it makes feel people feel better. This should be looked at logically and scientifically without having the lines blurred by superstition. The best outcome would be for medical staff to be screened for personality disorders in future before they are employed.
How is the word “evil” a superstition?
It’s not a personality problem it is simply evil end of.
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Was it established in this case that the nurse has a personality disorder? I haven't followed the case. Or do you mean to say that all such crimes are committed by people suffering from a mental disorder?
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Lucy Letby should have been brought into the courtroom to face the parents and families of the children whom she murdered and those whom she injured. As a serial baby killer she has no rights and should have been dragged in, if necessary.
Bring back capital punishment for people like this
What was her motive? I still couldn’t fathom the reason behind this. 😢😢
Don’t try, it will damage your own psyche…
She’s 2 years younger than me, her life is essentially over.
Who did she target is my question.
Was it random?
Absolutely $#@#$# evil.
@@Sarah-yy6hvhuh why would she want attention if she didn’t seem to happy to get caught
EVIL people take pleasure, almost sexual pleasure in doing what she did. Think of sadism in its most horrific form (if its possible) then you'll get the reason why.
She’s not the only guilty one here
She is the only one guilty of mass murder
Yes however t staff member that red flagged her said about 4 or 5 babies should b going to school now and they aren’t 🥲 so they are responsible for the mass murder of at least that many not just her
Well, neonatal units should be on camera, and the recording of the victim impact statements should be played on loop in her cell.
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Real justice will only be served once the incompetent managers are brought to justice. They have blood on their hands due to their abuse of position and power. The same abuse of power and position this horrendous woman (sic) had.
I think we are all now terrified of leaving one of our loved once alone in hospital, I for one will always be their with any family member whose admitted to hospital.
That’s a little silly , 99% chance you’ll be just fine , more of a chance of you getting a miscarriage or some other tragedy unrelated to babies but I understand
What about the management who could have approached the police earlier and prevented babies from being killed? They should be accountable for their negligence!
I lost y little girl recently and I don't know why the water is leaking .... It's very heavy pain that I have ,and to loose your baby while waiting to see her smile is very hard breaking 😭😭 !!!
Being a Mum is very hard but no one knows it until we get on that level!!!
I'll never have baby in UK ....
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What about the conspirators? Yeah, the executive of the hospital who kept quiet till more than 7 children died 😢
She will be treated nicely in prison
No she won’t, imagine the imprisoned mothers who are waiting for her. She’ll be ostracised and treated with derision, she’ll always have to watch her back …
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Can the parents or parents-to-be sue the hospital management?
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As an ex prisoner who was in for disqualified driving I refused to go court for sentencing I was hog tied and handcuffed and dragged to court and even when I refused to come up stairs at court the judge came down got the guards to open the cell and sentenced me there and then also because I refused to come up the judge ordered that I have no Privileges for the remaining of my sentences these included no tv no shop no employment and I was ordered to do a course on social behaviour and victim awareness, how come she wasn't punished the same?
its a high profile case they wont risk any mistreatment or rule breaking that could result in a mistrial, or bad press for the authorities. If you're trying to imply you were treated worse than a baby killer grow up. Although, you could become a baby killer if you keep driving like a clown
R.I.P. to all babies who died from the evil nurse.
7 dead.
6 hospitalised.
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Such a horrific heartbreaking case. Hope the surviving ones get well soon. Sending condolences to family and friends of all the infants.
whats with the emojis? Is that really necessary?
@@pasta8470i guess its probably an easier visualisation on the severity of whats happened
A lot more focus needs to be on Mental Health workers who are frequently implicated in patients' mental deterioration and also many suicides.
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